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Speaker 1: Said, Hi, Ras jess Ev Please, hey Boo, it's me

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Speaker 1: ros Dress Flees. Do you have a nice Halloween? Welcome

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Speaker 1: to November. Only eleven more months till next year. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna continue my ask Me Anything portion of the show

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Speaker 1: because we have another full episode this week with our listeners.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna answer a couple of questions before

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Speaker 1: we get into that. One question that I love that

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Speaker 1: It's a wonderful time that we live in these days

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Speaker 1: where we are discussing gender identity. I mean, it's something

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Speaker 1: that unfortunately I was in my late twenties to by

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Speaker 1: it's great. It's wonderful that we are acknowledging multiple gender

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Speaker 1: such a you know, such a broad conversation, and I

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Speaker 1: I'm more you know, I feel more masculine, some days

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Speaker 1: when I go into work, instead of wearing a work uniform,

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Speaker 1: this creature of hyper femininity. So I think, I think

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Speaker 1: I definitely think she is most appropriate. They is not

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Speaker 1: really something that I like for myself. When I hear

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Speaker 1: just RAS, And he's fine too. I won't get offended.

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Speaker 1: If a ghost child tried to hold your hand, would

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Speaker 1: Note that you don't actually know if it's a child

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Speaker 1: Elena be back? On the podcast, asked, Wow, you guys

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Speaker 1: love her so do I? I don't blame you. I

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Speaker 1: So she will be back and it will be sooner

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Speaker 1: rather than later. So don't you even worry. Who would

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Speaker 1: I want to play me in a movie? Megan Markle?

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Speaker 1: She is still an actress. Don't forget it. What is

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Speaker 1: it like being so fabulous? Exhausting? What's your boy name?

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Speaker 1: I don't really have a boy name anymore. I just

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Speaker 1: chicken with chow, main favorite beverage Lacroix, Tangerine. What movie

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Speaker 1: or music gives me life? Movie Alvira, Mistress of the Dark,

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Speaker 1: listen to some listeners. I've been ghosted too, Celia, Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 1: where are you calling from?

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Speaker 3: I am in Denver, Colorado?

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Speaker 1: No way. Do you think that that airport is run

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Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if it is, because there's

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Lucifer, is that what they call it? Terrifying?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to keep it up if anyone is listening. I mean,

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Speaker 3: She said she felt like an energy, but she didn't

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Speaker 1: But what are you doing when you're when you're asleep.

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Speaker 3: Laying there in the bust? Okay, myself and my partner

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Speaker 3: Cool. Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, just a

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, and then I'll just list a few things if

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Speaker 3: Well, really, I'm sure by then I'll have more. Okay,

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Speaker 3: A lot of things have been happening, like technology malfunctioning,

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Speaker 3: I got really upset when I was talking to someone

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Speaker 3: There were two that stood out to her. In one,

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Speaker 3: she was like, no, but what I'm sensing is that

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Speaker 3: my child for his greater interest, I guess. But then

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Speaker 1: Wait, but that's also where apparently I was What if

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Speaker 1: I was the one punishing you, or what if we're

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Speaker 1: we're friends? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I know I thought about that, knowing you were going

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, please keep me updated and hopefully we can

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, anytime.

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Speaker 1: Where are you calling from?

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Speaker 4: I am calling from Atlanta, Georgia. Actually i'm north. I'm

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should do a live show in Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: You totally should. I would a one hundred percent go.

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Speaker 4: I think think that that's a great idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, maybe maybe twenty twenty, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you should totally do that in Atlanta, and like

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Speaker 4: you know, Savannah of course is super haunted. And then

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Speaker 4: you've got Kennesaw that has the Kennesaw Mountain battlefields that

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Speaker 4: haunted places around us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, where are the haunted places that you've been?

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Speaker 4: So I've been to Kenesaw Mountains, but I haven't really

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Speaker 4: there's tons of stuff that goes on up there.

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Speaker 1: So is that where your grandparents' house was?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was where my grandparents' house was. Where they

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So that is like a family story that

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Speaker 1: What yeah, what do you mean, Like it was like fossilized.

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Speaker 4: No, like it was already like decomposing everything, but it

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Speaker 4: But my granddad is like not and went and buried

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Speaker 4: He never saw that white dog ever again. So I

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Speaker 1: My gosh, that poor baby. It's like, uh, I'm not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you guys are putting all sorts of stuff.

439
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 4: Ony you're standing on me. Can I just go on

440
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 4: the ground please?

441
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: Cause yeah weird?

442
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: M h.

443
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: So that house is it still in the family.

444
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: Or no, no, no, it's not in the family anymore.

445
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 4: They sold that property a long time ago because they

446
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 4: like ended up transitioning to like their own They bought

447
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 4: their own mountain, right like that side of my family.

448
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

449
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 4: Actually, my great great grandmother was one of the first

450
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 4: women to own her own land in the state of

451
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 4: North Carolina. Oh yeah, so she's pretty badass.

452
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So wait, what is this business with Hell's Church?

453
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 4: Okay, So the history of it that I know is

454
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 4: it's a church in Canton, Georgia. And if you like,

455
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 4: if you go on to any website that has a

456
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 4: list of haunted places, in Georgia. They usually have Hell's

457
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 4: Church listed on there. But the history of it I

458
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 4: know is that it used to be a Satanic church

459
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 4: and yeah, and they would bring people in under the

460
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 4: notion that they were going to be baptizing them. And

461
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 4: they have a natural creek that runs behind it, and

462
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: the natural creek sort of makes its own little pool

463
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 4: area and that's where they'd say they'd be baptizing these people,

464
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 4: but they would actually drowned them as like a Satanic

465
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 4: sacrifice and a ritual that they were doing. So there's

466
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 4: supposed to be, you know, a lot of heavy activity

467
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: because tons of people are supposed to have gotten murdered there.

468
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: Think about being like like underwater ghosts. That is the

469
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: scariest thing ever. Wait where is this located. This is

470
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: in Georgia.

471
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in Canton, Georgia. So Canton, Georgia is roughly

472
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 4: about an hour north of Atlanta.

473
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.

474
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 4: And the weird thing is with the church. Now, I

475
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 4: haven't been there in five years. I refuse to go back,

476
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 4: so I don't know what it looks like now. But

477
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: when you when I went in there, it's like in

478
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 4: the middle of the city of Canton, which Canton is

479
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: a small city. It's like more like a little town.

480
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: You know. You've got some grocery stores, you've got gas stations.

481
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: They have like a Michael's craft store. That's like the

482
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 4: big store they have.

483
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, my dream man is Michael.

484
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear that one hundred percent. But yeah, so,

485
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 4: but it's in the middle of all that city. And

486
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 4: you go up a road and you take a left

487
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 4: in the road that you're on forks and if you

488
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 4: go to the right, it is a subdivision, like a

489
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 4: plain old subdivision that I would never live in personally

490
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 4: because it's too close to that church. But it's like,

491
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: you know, newer houses and everything. And then if you

492
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: go to the left, that road only goes to the church.

493
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: It dead ends into the church, and you go winding

494
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 4: back through all of these woods, and it's like the

495
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: city drops away and disappears, and you are in the

496
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 4: middle of nowhere, even though you're like right there. And

497
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: that's it's so weird how it's positioned, because you're surrounded

498
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 4: by just like acres of trees.

499
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: Sound like that, Nope, Yeah, that's like do you want

500
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: to live or do you want to be possessed by

501
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: an underwater.

502
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: You decide exactly exactly Michaels, Yeah, right. But so the

503
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 4: first time I went there was right when I moved here,

504
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 4: because I used to live in Wisconsin and I moved

505
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: down here in two thousand and five, and it was

506
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: like some people that I had met and I was

507
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: like eighteen, and I'm like, oh, let's go find ghosts.

508
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: This will be fun. And so the group of us

509
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: goes to house church and first we go during the

510
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: day because we're gonna find this baptismal poole. And so

511
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: you have to like hike sort of through the woods

512
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: to get to it, but you find it, and the

513
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: creek is a very like shallow creek, but it does

514
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: make a really deep pool, like it's definitely deep enough

515
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: to drowns and people in and I know it's so creepy,

516
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: but nothing. I didn't experience anything there. I didn't feel

517
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: anything weird, and so I was kind of like, you know,

518
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: and back at that time, even though I've had weird

519
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: things happen to me in paranormal experiences, I was still

520
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: leaning towards the side of like the skeptic. So this

521
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: whole time, I'm like, whatever, this is kind of dumb,

522
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: you know. So then we went that night and we

523
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: brought a camcorder because we're like, we read somewhere that

524
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: if the camcorder loses focus and stuff like that, it's

525
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: because there's an apparition. I really don't think that's true.

526
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: I think that's some like internet stuff the scare kids.

527
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: But we brought our cam quorder and we were out

528
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: there and we were walking around for a while. And

529
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: the thing is is like the road that you drive on,

530
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: you have to drive on it for like a solid

531
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes at least until you get to this church

532
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: and you're just out in the woods. Is it just

533
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: like yeah, it's yeah, it's totally pitch black, so sad,

534
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: and you know how creepy it is driving through the woods,

535
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: just your headlights lighting up everything. And so you go

536
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: through the woods and then when you you go out

537
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 4: to a tiny little call de sac, and to the

538
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: right side of the call de sac is the church

539
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: and it's just a one story white building. It's not

540
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: extrac e egant and doesn't have like a huge steeple

541
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 4: on or anything. And then to the left is a

542
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 4: very small graveyard. It probably has maybe like twenty or

543
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: thirty grades in it. But the church had been remodeled,

544
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: and you they have these two like French doors on

545
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: the front of it, and then windows on either side

546
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: of that, and when you look through the window, you

547
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: can see the security system, the alarm box for it,

548
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 4: and the light was red, so the security system was

549
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: on and it was totally armed. And then it has

550
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: one spooky street light at that called a sack, just

551
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: sort of illuminating everything, and it's one of those orangey ones,

552
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: so everything's like this orange glow. It's kind of eerie.

553
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: Wait, so, but what is this church now? It's like

554
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: a Christian church or what.

555
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: I think it's a Baptist church, but it is still

556
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: a functioning church, like and I'm pretty sure it's a

557
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: Baptist church. I'm not one hundred percent. I haven't looked

558
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: at it in a minute to see what it is,

559
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: but it's definitely a functioning church.

560
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: That's so interesting that it was a say, Batanic church,

561
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: and now it's a Baptist.

562
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

563
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: Right, that's like the history of histories that it was

564
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: the Satanic church. I'm sure the people you know that

565
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: go to church now are probably like, that's not true.

566
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: But regardless, the place is definitely haunted. So whether like

567
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: that Satanic church history that goes around is true or not,

568
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: it's definitely haunted. There's no question in my mind that

569
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 4: it's haunted. So whether it's like a scary Satan ghost

570
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: or just like some regular run of the mill where

571
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 4: just regular ghosts.

572
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: Just a good old fashioned woods ghost.

573
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah. So we had walked around the grounds

574
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: in the woods for a little while and nothing was

575
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 4: really happening, so we decided to leave. And the way

576
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: you pull up in the Call to Sac is your

577
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: cars are sort of in a line along it right

578
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: next to the church the entrance. And as I was

579
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: walking back towards the cars, one of the girls that

580
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: I was in just goes, oh my God and covered

581
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: her mouth and just looked terrified. So I turned around

582
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 4: to see what she looked at, because she was looking

583
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: at the front of the church. And the front door

584
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 4: opened on its own and then closed on its own.

585
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 4: And I watched this happen and I was like.

586
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: Nope, we need to leave with the security system on.

587
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the alarm did not go off, it was

588
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 4: it didn't go off at all. And they had checked

589
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: the doors the doors were locked, and it just came

590
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: open on its own, and it came open big enough

591
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: for a human to come out, and then it closed,

592
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: so didn't like fly open. It looked just like someone

593
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: nonchalantly what opened the door, walked out and then closed

594
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: the door behind them. And it was not windy, none

595
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: of that business was happening. Nobody was by the door.

596
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: It just totally did it on its own. And so

597
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: I'm like nope, and we all left, and you know,

598
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: I'm I'm still like at this point kind of being

599
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: like skeptical, trying to reason why it happened and stuff

600
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: like that. And then years later, like maybe five years ago,

601
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: I was like telling the person I was dating at

602
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: the time about Hell's Church and he's like, let's go,

603
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, okay, totally this is great. And

604
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: so once again we go at night, we're winding along

605
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 4: the road and then I just get hit with like

606
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 4: a wall of just oppression is the best word that

607
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: I can describe it. It was heavy, like it felt heavy,

608
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: it felt like something, and we weren't even at the

609
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: church yet, We're just still winding through the woods and

610
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: it was just heavy and oppressive and it felt bad,

611
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: Like it didn't. I wasn't scared, it wasn't fear, it

612
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: was something different. And I'm like, this is just all

613
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: in my head, so I don't say anything about it.

614
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, you're over reacting. This is all on your head.

615
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: It's just something weird that's happening. And so we're sitting

616
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: in silence for a minute, just under this crushing oppression,

617
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 4: and he says, do you feel that? And I was like, yes,

618
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 4: we need to turn around right now. This is not okay.

619
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: And he's like, no, I still want to check it

620
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: out and stuff, and I was like, I'm not leaving

621
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: this car. And so we pull up and he gets out,

622
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: walks around, and I sit in the car and I'm like,

623
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: this doesn't feel right to me. What it felt like.

624
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 4: It felt like whatever sort of like entity or being

625
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 4: or energy is going on there told me all right, girl,

626
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 4: you had your fun before. This is a warning. Don't

627
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: come back here. That's what it felt like to me.

628
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: And I'm like, no problem, I will never be back.

629
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: But it was just like so oppressive, and the fact

630
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: that it was like silent for a minute and then

631
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: him being like do you feel that?

632
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, no, this is not okay.

633
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's like girl, we opened a door,

634
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: just waiting to see what's gonna happen if you keep going. Yeah,

635
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: oh I don't like it.

636
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was super it was super scary. I've had

637
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 4: like other weird paranorl happenings that didn't feel scary. That

638
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 4: was the one that felt malicious, like that was the

639
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 4: one that I had that It was like a warning,

640
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: like a bad things will happen if you keep coming

641
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: back here, and so I will. I refuse to go back.

642
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 2: It won't go back.

643
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: I think it would be fun to go. What if

644
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: when I go do a live show there? What if

645
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: we went.

646
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: It just I would love to tell you how to

647
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 4: get there. I will legit give you directions on how

648
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 4: to go. It's just like it felt like one of

649
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: those things that you need to listen to, like if

650
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 4: the feeling was all encompassing, like it was my entire being. Yeah,

651
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: I had this oppression against it that was like you're

652
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 4: pushing your luck And I was like, that's something that

653
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 4: I feel like I need to listen to. But if

654
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: you want directions, I will tell you how to get there,

655
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 4: no problem, oh.

656
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: Come on, you don't want to go swimming in the creek.

657
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: We can, we need to get in that thing.

658
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: But it was like wintertime and it was kind of

659
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: cold out. But I totally would have gotten that. Maybe

660
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 4: I would go during the day, But I'm not going

661
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: to go at night again, because whatever's hanging out there

662
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: at night time doesn't want me there anymore. And I'm

663
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 4: gonna listen to that. I can't. It's like nothing I've

664
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: ever felt ever again, at any point in time in.

665
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: My life ever.

666
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: Okay, well, before we go, tell me, can you tell

667
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: me like a happy paranormal experience or I mean one

668
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: that you didn't feel like that?

669
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. So like when we lived in our

670
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 4: house in Wisconsin. That house was uh super old, and

671
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 4: I had I was like doing my homework in the

672
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: kitchen and the entire room like there was a lot

673
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: of pressure build up in the room that I could

674
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: feel it. You know how when it gets like so

675
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: quiet that you can feel the quietness. Yes, And we

676
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 4: had like this cake, this glass cake platter, and it

677
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 4: just busted. It just shattered everywhere.

678
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: Nothing was by it.

679
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: It was sitting on the counter mining its own business,

680
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: and it just exploded and it wasn't scary, Like I

681
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: didn't feel afraid. I was just like, WHOA, that was

682
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 4: so weird. I don't know, like what did that like

683
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 4: if it was like a kind of energy or if

684
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: it was like paranormal activity going on.

685
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: But was there other like paranormal stuff in that house?

686
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: Was it?

687
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Did you think it was haunted?

688
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: Now? I would have so I know you had Oscar

689
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: Montoya on. Yeah, and uh there talking about dreams, you know,

690
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 4: dream premonitions, which I've had those pretty much my whole life.

691
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: But the most activity that I had was in my

692
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 4: house when I was really little, and then that house

693
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 4: in Wisconsin is when I would have the most dreams.

694
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: And I would have so many dreams about the attic

695
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: of that house and just some sort of presence up there.

696
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: So I didn't.

697
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: Directly experience anything, but just the way that I had

698
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: dreams about that presence. And then I would have like

699
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: those premonition dreams in that location more than I have

700
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: in other locations that I feel like there was definitely

701
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 4: some kind of energy going on there.

702
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: What's like a premonition dream that you've had, They're so.

703
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 4: Lame ras like I'll I'll have one where I used

704
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: to work at a fast food taco restaurant up there

705
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 4: called Taco John's, which is delicious. I don't know if

706
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: you had them when you lived up North Taco john

707
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: Taco Johns.

708
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good.

709
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: It's like a it's like a high end taco bell.

710
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 4: If that's a thing that can even happen, Okay, but yeah,

711
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: it's good. But I worked there and I had this

712
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 4: dream about a pair of gold wire rim glasses sitting

713
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 4: on a stack of books on like a mahogany desk,

714
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: and the desk had one of those like vintage desk

715
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 4: lights that was the green glass with like the black

716
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: glossy base on it, super sleek looking, and the desk

717
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 4: was super cluttered with a ton of paper, and those

718
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: gold wired room glasses were sitting on a bunch of books.

719
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 4: And that was my dream, you know, but I just

720
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: remembered it. It stuck with me. And then about a

721
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 4: week later, our manager comes in and she had a

722
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: customer on the phone and she was like, Hey, has

723
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 4: anybody seen a pair of glasses? One of our customers

724
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: lost them, and I was like, well, what do they

725
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: look like? And she asked them what they look like,

726
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: and she was like, oh, they're a pair of gold

727
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 4: wired grim glasses. So I had to dream about that

728
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: customer's glasses. But I couldn't just say, oh, check on

729
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 4: your desk, you know, because like that would be weird.

730
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: So do you think this customer had a mahogany table

731
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: with a green glass light?

732
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: I do.

733
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: I think I dreamt where they left their glasses for sure. Yeah,

734
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: And that's why I say they're like lame, because it's like, oh,

735
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: I can help you find your glasses. Or I had

736
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 4: a dream about one of my friend's childhood homes and

737
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 4: I had just met them, you know, when I was

738
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 4: like seventeen or eighteen, and I was like, oh, I

739
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: had a dream with you in it. Last night. We

740
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 4: were at this house and it was really weird, and

741
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: I was like describing it top to bottom, and their

742
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: face just went sheet white and they were like, oh

743
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: my god, that's my childhood home.

744
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: You just described it.

745
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: To a tea. Oh. I didn't know them until I

746
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: was seventeen, you know. Interesting, I didn't know.

747
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: So it's like you're you're like a psychic, but you

748
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: I mean, is there a reason that you would need

749
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: to know that stuff like.

750
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: No, that's why I'm like. It's like I'm it's like

751
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 4: when you get a super power and they're like, what's

752
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 4: your sewer power? And you're like, oh, I can make toast.

753
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, it's cool, but it's also kind of land.

754
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I bet if you, if you learn to

755
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: hone it, I bet you you could really use it

756
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: for for good and you know it could.

757
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, That's something that has been really interested in practicing. Again.

758
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm at like a good place in

759
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: my life with myself to where practicing that would be

760
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 4: a smart move, you know, because you know, I went

761
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: through a couple of rough patches and when you do that,

762
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 4: I don't think like opening yourself up to stuff like

763
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: that is necessarily a good idea. But now I feel

764
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 4: like I'm in a good place to where exploring that

765
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: again and like you say, trying to hone in on

766
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: it would be a good move. So I've been looking

767
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: into that, you know, maybe like star name with Tara,

768
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: like learning Taro because that really interests me.

769
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: For something, Well, if you get a psychic vision of

770
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: me being in Atlanta, let me know, oh I.

771
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: Will for sure.

772
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house? Is this the world

773
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: famous Melvin?

774
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: It is?

775
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: It is? Wait Melvin? Where are you? Where are you at?

776
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: So I'm in Carrie, North Carolina?

777
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow? Yeah, what is the story?

778
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: Okay? So I was asleep. I was at home and

779
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: me and my fiancee now husband working your head, and

780
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: I was having a dream. I was like on Netflix

781
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: and I was looking for a scary movie to watch,

782
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: and I started feeling like someone was watching me or

783
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: looking at me, I don't know, And so like I

784
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: pulled myself out of sleep and I saw like this

785
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: like dark figure just like standing over me, and it

786
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: took me a second to realize what was going on,

787
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: and so like I started to look up the body

788
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: and like try to see the face, but like there

789
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: was nothing there, Like it was just pitch black. And

790
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: as soon as I got to like the face area,

791
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: it turned around and started to walk away, and I

792
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: was like, okay, I'm just dreaming. And then that's when

793
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: it like drug its fingers down down my left leg

794
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: I think it was, and I just I just completely froze,

795
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: and I was like, what the hell just happened? And

796
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: so I watched it like go around my bed and

797
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: just disappear, and so I was just kind of sitting

798
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: there and didn't really know what to do. And my husband,

799
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: his name is Jeffrey. He does not like to be

800
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: touched when he is asleep, and so I didn't want

801
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: to wake him up or anything. So all I could

802
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: do was like scoot closure to him without bothering him,

803
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: and I just I couldn't go back to sleep. I

804
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: think I was up maybe thirty forty minutes after that,

805
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: and I fell back asleep and got up the next

806
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: morning and he was getting ready for work and I

807
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: was like, hey, so I had this dream. I had

808
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: to like make it seem like it wasn't that big

809
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: of a deal. I was like, I had this dream

810
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: or whatever this thing happened. And I was like, I

811
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: think something touched me, I like, not human. And he

812
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: is very, very skeptical about this stuff. I'm a strong

813
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: believer in it, but he is definitely somebody that is like,

814
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: I don't believe it until I see it. And so

815
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: I was trying to tell him about it and he

816
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: was just like it, okay, Sure.

817
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 4: So I.

818
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: Text my best friend who also listens to your podcast,

819
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: and I was like, I need to talk to you.

820
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: Because I know you'll believe me because Jeffrey doesn't believe me.

821
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: So so yeah, that that is the story.

822
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: But wait, so, but the demon wasn't actually a part

823
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: of a dream or the black pep.

824
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. And that's the thing. I don't know

825
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: if it was a demon or anything, because me and

826
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: Jeffrey have been living in this house. It's we still

827
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: live in the house almost three years and so the

828
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: house was built in like nineteen seventy two, nineteen seventy four,

829
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: so it's not that old of a house. But an

830
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: elderly couple did live here before us, and I think

831
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: the wife died and I don't know if it is

832
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: her or or something, but I tend to be pretty

833
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: sensitive to stuff like that, and I haven't felt anything.

834
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: And we have two cats and they they don't ever

835
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: freak out and all. But I just I don't know

836
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: what it could have been.

837
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: Honestly, he's did it have Did you get like an

838
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: evel feeling or what was the did you get a

839
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: vibe off of it?

840
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: That's yeah, I didn't get an evil feeling. It was

841
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: just like somebody just watching and it's just like I

842
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: don't feel threatened by you or anything. You just you

843
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: just caught me off guard.

844
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: So but then they were just like, okay, I'm gonna leave,

845
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: but before I did, let me just slide my finger

846
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: down your life.

847
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: I think I know that I was here.

848
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: Here's my theory. I think it was a demon, but

849
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: like a nice demon that was looking for a three way.

850
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: And oh god, they were just staring at you. And

851
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: he's like, are you sure you like what you see?

852
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: No?

853
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: You don't, Okay, he's all insecure. He's like, oh god,

854
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: this again. Okay, fine, I'll just leave. But wait, wait,

855
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: let me just slide my finger down. Nope, you're not right. Okay,

856
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm out of here.

857
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: That's my case, just so you know, you know, just

858
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: in case you want to, you know, call me back

859
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah. Yeah.

860
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: But so are you opened this presence coming back into

861
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: your life.

862
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: That's a great question, Roz.

863
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: I guess. I guess so.

864
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: Like I said, I wasn't threatened by it. But if

865
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: it comes back, it comes back. If it doesn't, you know,

866
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: I won't live any more sleep over it.

867
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: But you know, I want this presence to visit your husband,

868
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: you know.

869
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: And I thought about that too, because like I said,

870
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: he doesn't believe in this stuff. He he's very, very

871
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 2: skeptical of a lot of things. And I've always kind

872
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: of been keeping an ear out and kind of watching

873
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: closely because I've always been an observer and I am

874
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: still to this day. But it would be interesting for

875
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: him to have an experience. And I feel like sooner

876
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: or later he will because he married.

877
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 4: Me, so you know.

878
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: But so are you somebody that you've had bunch of

879
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: experiences like that?

880
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Oh, not like that, but I have had experiences like

881
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: I went to a I went to Peace College here

882
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: in Raleigh. It used to be an all girls school

883
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 2: and my class was actually the first co ed class

884
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: to come in in twenty twelve. And so when they

885
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: started building the school in eighteen fifty seven, halfway through,

886
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 2: the Silver War broke out and so they stopped construction

887
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: of the school itself and turned it into a Confederate hospital.

888
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: So there's all kinds of stuff happening there, like it

889
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: is most definitely haunted, and my friends have had experiences.

890
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: I've had experiences there.

891
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: It's just crawling with all that what's happened.

892
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: So one of my friends, I did theater in college,

893
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 2: and I still do. I act all around the area.

894
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: And one of my friends who's also an actor, he

895
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: in his room. He said that there was a woman

896
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: that would only come to him at night, and he

897
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: didn't know what she looks like, but he knew what

898
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 2: she sounded like, and she would always like call his

899
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: name and like talk to him and like all these things,

900
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: and she would keep him up, and it came to

901
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: a point where he was not sleeping at night, so

902
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: he would show up to class and just be a zombie.

903
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: Basically, she would just non stop be saying his name

904
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: all night. Mm hmmm, So all night She's just like.

905
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Basically, it's like so creepy. So but he

906
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: he never did figure out who it was and it

907
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: eventually stopped. But there was like a month or two

908
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: where he was not sleeping because he this lady would

909
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: not let him sleep.

910
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: That sounds terrible. I don't like this kind of stuff

911
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: that happens in the middle of the night. Did you wait,

912
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: let's go back to you and your three way ghost.

913
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, did you do you think it was sleep paralysis?

914
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: Have you had sleep paralysis before?

915
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: I have had sleep paralyss paralysis more times than I

916
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: can count Oh really, yeah, yeah, I have another story

917
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 2: if we have time, of course, sure, But I don't

918
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: think it was sleep paralysis because I could move. I

919
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 2: was I could have moved, I should say, but I didn't.

920
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: And I definitely know the difference when I am having

921
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: sleep paralysis because there is that sense. And I think

922
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 2: you've talked about it before too, that you've had it

923
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: in there you know when you have it, like you

924
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: know when it's happening. So this time, like, it wasn't that,

925
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: And I think it also came along with not feeling

926
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: threatened or anything. But when it was happening, I was like,

927
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: oh shit, it's it's going down.

928
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: So what usually happens when you have sleep paralysis.

929
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: Usually what happens is like I'll wake up and I

930
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: just I can't move, and like I can look around

931
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: the room and everything. But there is something there, a

932
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: figure which helps me segue into my next story with

933
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: the sleep prolysis. So my second apartment. This was about

934
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: three years ago. I think this was right before me

935
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 2: and Jeffrey actually started dating. I was living in this

936
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 2: apartment with a good friend of mine who is also

937
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: an actress, and I was asleep in my room and

938
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: I woke up and I realized I was having a

939
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: sleep prolyssis. I knew it was happening. And in the

940
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: corner of my room was this tall I like get

941
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: chills talking and even thinking about it, this tall, dark figure,

942
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: just dark, just standing in the corner looking at me,

943
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: and I rob I didn't know what to do. I

944
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: just all I could do was just lay there and

945
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: just be like, oh my god, oh my god, oh

946
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: my god. And I just kept like thing is just like,

947
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 2: please go away, please go away. And like I finally

948
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: managed to like close my eyes and open the back

949
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: up and it was gone.

950
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: But it was it was tall and dark, and I

951
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: was like, I what, what do you think it was

952
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: the same one.

953
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, because this one I felt

954
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 2: threatened by. I definitely got an energy from it that

955
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: it was like watching me in a way that what

956
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: are you doing here?

957
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: I think it was the same one. And he just

958
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: realized that the first time completely failed. He's like, Okay,

959
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: in the second time, I'm gonna take like a friendly approach.

960
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll like me this way.

961
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: I think broke his le.

962
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because last time I could. I think I

963
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: came up a little too spooky. It sounds like you

964
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: have a type, or like there's a type that's attracted

965
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: to you, which is the maybe maybe gruesome. Wow, oh gosh,

966
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm so happy this has never happened to me. So

967
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: do you do you sleep on your back? Because that's

968
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: the thing I always say, I hear, yeah, sleep on

969
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: you when you see demons.

970
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: So the times that it's happened, yes, I have been

971
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: on my back. I normally sleep on my stomach, like

972
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: face down, which is not good for you, which you

973
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: know causes the wrinkles. But when it happens like I'm

974
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: on my back, and I, like I said, I don't

975
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: normally sleep on my back.

976
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 4: But.

977
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: When it's when it happens, I'm on my back every

978
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 2: single time.

979
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no good. Like I say, I'll take the wrinkles.

980
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: I'm not dealing with demons in my room.

981
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't do it.

982
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, is there anything else you want

983
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: to share? These are good stories?

984
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh well my.

985
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 2: So my parents' house. I'll try to make this a

986
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: quick one. My parents house that they currently live in.

987
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: I believe there's something there too. And I remember when

988
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: I was like sixteen, or seventeen. I was home alone

989
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: and I was watching TV. And where you are in

990
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: the living room, if you look to the left, you

991
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: can look straight through the dining room in the kitchen,

992
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: and I was watching TV and a cup that had

993
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: been sitting on the counter hadn't moved anything flew off

994
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: the counter. And I was like what, And so, of course,

995
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: like I get up and I go and I was like,

996
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: that's not even possible. I know, it wasn't near the

997
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: edge of the counter. And I also looked to see

998
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 2: if there was like maybe condensation, because you know, sometimes

999
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: cups will like slide and the light under them. But

1000
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: it wasn't. It just flew off the counter. And so

1001
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 2: I told my parents about it, and they thought, sure, silly, okay,

1002
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: teenageer whatever. And so now my sister, who is nineteen,

1003
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: she is still at home. She'll she'll go off to

1004
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 2: college next year. She has had some experiences which you know,

1005
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: reassures me, Okay, I'm not crazy. There is something going

1006
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: on at that house. And like she has had shoes

1007
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: fly off the rack and her bathroom she's like hurt stuff.

1008
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 2: There's like on the back of the front door. They

1009
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: are like these blinds that make noise whenever you move

1010
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: them or open them. And she said, she got up

1011
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: around three am, so you'll get some water, and no

1012
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: one else was up, and all of a sudden, the

1013
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: blind started shaking and she was like, nope, I'm not thirsty,

1014
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: and she went back to bed, and so she told

1015
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: me about it, and I was like, okay, so there

1016
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: probably is something there. So I got to do some

1017
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: more investigating with that as well as my house. I

1018
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: can absolutely update you on that, but yeah, I who knows.

1019
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: I think there's something at that house stuff.

1020
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so do some investigative journalism and check back in

1021
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: with me because I'm very curious.

1022
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I most definitely will.

1023
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: So LEXI, what are we talking about today? Ouiji boards?

1024
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: Okay, so I will just start at the beginning.

1025
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: So where are you calling from?

1026
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm from Texas. But all of this happened in

1027
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: the upper Peninsula of Michigan.

1028
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: Ooh yeah.

1029
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 4: People say that like Michigan is like a vortex for energy.

1030
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 4: There's just like so many haunted houses and like just

1031
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 4: demons and bad energy, like it's crazy up there.

1032
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: Well I never realized this. I had an ex that

1033
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: I took back home to Grand Rapids, Michigan, and he

1034
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: grew up in California, and he was like, there is

1035
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: a church on every single corner, which I didn't realize

1036
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: growing up, but now that I've gone back and I

1037
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: look around, I'm like, yeah, there's like a lot of

1038
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: churches everywhere. So I don't know if that has anything

1039
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: to do with that, just like.

1040
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: Trying to make up for the fact that there's Beeman's everywhere.

1041
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think a lot of people that believe

1042
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: in that stuff, that believe in like evil.

1043
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, totally. So my grandma lives in this

1044
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 4: house that's like an old mafia house from like back

1045
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: in the prohibition days.

1046
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: Whoa. So there's like all these.

1047
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 4: Like underground tunnels that have been filled in with dirt,

1048
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: so like halfway up the stairs you can like open

1049
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 4: it and there's this like trapdoor that is filled in

1050
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: with dirt from like back then. And it's old farm,

1051
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: so there's all these like chicken coops and you know,

1052
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: it wasn't actually a farm, but it was just like

1053
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 4: the remnants of the farm. So my grandma would always

1054
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 4: have like people coming over, like she was she was

1055
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: always like helping out homeless people or just like ramblers

1056
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 4: and rollers like whoever would come through. People would just

1057
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 4: stay there with her all the time. So apparently there

1058
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 4: was this one guy who came and he had like

1059
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 4: a Wigi board and it was upstairs. So in the

1060
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 4: upstairs bedrooms, there's one bedroom and then there's a door,

1061
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: and then there's another bedroom behind that door, and that's

1062
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: where like all of it is. It's like in this

1063
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: back bedroom and there's also like a bathroom attached to it.

1064
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 4: So like the story goes that my grandma had to

1065
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 4: like exercise some guy because he was using this Wiji board.

1066
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 4: And eventually I don't know, I don't know if that's

1067
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 4: like true or if that's like whatever some kind of rumor,

1068
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 4: but the Wiji board always stayed like right there above

1069
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 4: the closet in that bedroom. So it was always it

1070
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 4: was like this old wooden, like real deal Wiji board

1071
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 4: and just right above the closet. And my grandma's really religious,

1072
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 4: so I was always I was like, why is this here?

1073
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: But wait, so this guy, just some random guy that

1074
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: she was like letting stay with her came in with

1075
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: a Wigi board and then he got possessed by a demon.

1076
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 4: Yes, that's story. So it all it all went down

1077
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: in this closet in this bedroom, is like what I've

1078
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 4: heard from my family, and that's where the Weiedi board

1079
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 4: would stay. And like this closet feels like there's a

1080
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 4: demon in there. So I'm like, it seems I don't

1081
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 4: know whatever the thing is. There was a demon in

1082
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: that closet and there was the weigy board above it.

1083
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 4: So growing up, I would like start using it because

1084
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 4: it was just always there. And eventually I was like, well, shoot,

1085
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 4: let's do it without knowing anything about like how to

1086
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: manage that kind of stuff. So when we would do it,

1087
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 4: it was crazy, like I've done wody wards before, but

1088
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 4: this one like new things, like it knew like the

1089
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 4: color of our underwear. We would ask around the circle

1090
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 4: and it would know and it said it was in

1091
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 4: the closet. It said it with Lucifer. But I feel

1092
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 4: like that's just like a cocky demon, like we're not

1093
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 4: that lucky talking to like Lucifer and stuff.

1094
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

1095
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that so that was like to be.

1096
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 4: Of like just opening the floodgates. And then ever since

1097
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: I used it, I just had all these experiences with demons,

1098
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 4: like i was seriously was like haunted growing up. I

1099
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 4: just was always having experiences.

1100
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

1101
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 4: And so I lived in this house. This was probably

1102
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: the like the pinnacle of it. Like we moved into

1103
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 4: this house and I was just like really high on

1104
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 4: high alert because I was I was doing like witchcrafts

1105
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 4: and stuff. I was doing beady boards. I was just

1106
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 4: like into that kind of stuff as a kid, So

1107
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 4: this stuff was really like attracted to me. So like

1108
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 4: one night I was laying I was like sleeping on

1109
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 4: the couch and I woke up in the middle of

1110
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 4: the night and I see this woman like in this

1111
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 4: yellow Victorian gown, just like sitting in front of me

1112
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 4: in the living room, drinking tea, and she's just staring

1113
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 4: at me. And so I get up. I like rub

1114
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 4: my eyes, rub my eyes and make sure it's real.

1115
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 4: And I look again and she's still there.

1116
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: No, that's supposed to work. That works every time I

1117
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: know she was there.

1118
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 4: She didn't budge. She just kept staring at me, sipping

1119
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 4: her teeth.

1120
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: So there was yeah, wait, but do you think it

1121
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: But do you think that that was because you were

1122
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: doing all this witchcraft and stuff or do you think

1123
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: that that was like a ghost in that specific house.

1124
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 4: Oh no, I think that that might have been a

1125
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 4: different thing. I just think that they were really like

1126
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 4: attracted to me in general. So I was just always

1127
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 4: having these experiences. Oh, I forgot to tell you. So

1128
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 4: after I did the Wigi board at my grandma's house,

1129
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 4: like the night after we did it for the first time,

1130
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 4: I was sleeping in my sister's bedroom and that's the

1131
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 4: one that's like right next to the room that we

1132
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 4: did the Wigi board in. In the middle of the night,

1133
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 4: I wake up and the door knob is just shaking violently,

1134
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 4: like this big glass doorknob like shaking.

1135
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: Ew.

1136
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't like that one.

1137
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so okay, so let me get back to that house.

1138
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 3: Wait.

1139
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: So the demon's just like shaking the doorknob, and the

1140
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: demon's like you're underwears pink.

1141
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1142
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 4: I mean, they were just like trying to get through.

1143
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 4: It felt like it honestly felt evil like it it

1144
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 4: was I've never felt anything like it. It was just

1145
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 4: like evil. That's the only way I can explain it.

1146
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 4: Just like violent and malicious. So like this house, like

1147
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 4: doors would like open and shut when I was there,

1148
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 4: Like there was this knock that would happen on my

1149
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 4: bedroom door happened on my door, and then I would look,

1150
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 4: no one's there, And then like a couple minutes later,

1151
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 4: it would knock, but it would be inside the door,

1152
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 4: and then the knocks would just get closer and closer

1153
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 4: to me.

1154
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: Wait, which house is this now?

1155
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 4: Sorry, this is the other house that I lived in.

1156
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 4: This is like this is just another general ghost story.

1157
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 4: I guess I got a.

1158
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: Little thrown off with the with the tea Is this

1159
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: the house with the tea drinking lady?

1160
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's that house.

1161
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So she would drink tea and she would knock

1162
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: on the walls.

1163
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would just like knock and get close certain

1164
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: closer to me. I would be doing the dishes and

1165
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 4: I would just feel like breathing on my neck. It

1166
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 4: was literally every time I was alone in that house,

1167
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 4: something would happen, like every single time. So it got

1168
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 4: to the point where I would just when I got

1169
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 4: home from school, I would just like grab the phone

1170
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 4: and sit on the curb and I just wouldn't go

1171
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 4: inside till my parents got home.

1172
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: I just I would not go How old was the house?

1173
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 4: It wasn't even like an old house. It was like

1174
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 4: just like a normal house.

1175
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: What sounds like that lady was like when did you

1176
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: say she was wearing Victorian clothes?

1177
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was like in a Victorian dress. And I've

1178
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 4: never understood that because I felt like it was demonic,

1179
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 4: like all the things that just because of the Ouiji

1180
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 4: board and all that stuff, and that's weird like ghosts.

1181
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 4: That was like a different thing. I don't know what

1182
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 4: that was. I have no idea.

1183
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I could have been a demon that was

1184
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: costplaying the Victorian. Yeah, yeah, sure, why not. I wear

1185
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: costumes all the time.

1186
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I always have dreams so like still to

1187
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 4: this day, I'll have dreams about being in my grandma's

1188
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 4: house and there's a demon like chasing me, like all

1189
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 4: the time.

1190
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: Is that house like still in the family.

1191
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, she still lives there, So.

1192
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: What does she have to say about it?

1193
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 4: She Honestly, I never understood why that weed war was

1194
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 4: in there. She never talked about it. One time I

1195
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 4: lived there for a while and I just asked her

1196
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 4: to throw it in the dumpster and she did it,

1197
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 4: but she didn't really say much about it.

1198
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: Oh so she knows she got rid of it, Yeah,

1199
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: because I.

1200
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 4: Was living there, and I was like, Okay, we're not

1201
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 4: going to keep doing this, like we're gonna get rid

1202
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 4: of those things. And yeah, she threw it away, but

1203
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 4: I've never really I guess I never really talked to

1204
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 4: her about it for some reason.

1205
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't necessarily mean that the demon's gone, no,

1206
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: I think, well, I.

1207
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 4: Think it's I don't know, it's still somewhere in my

1208
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 4: brain because I have these dreams where like I'm just

1209
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,479
Speaker 4: getting chased around and I'm just stuck in the house.

1210
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I have another story too that Okay,

1211
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 4: let's hear it. Okay, So my friend, my best friend

1212
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 4: growing up, she lived in this plot of land that

1213
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 4: used to be a town called Atkinson, like back in

1214
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 4: the eighteen hundreds.

1215
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 2: So there was like all these pits of like old

1216
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: shoes and clothes.

1217
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 4: And like houses were like buried underground for some reason,

1218
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 4: and we would like dig up, like in the summer.

1219
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 4: We would just like dig and find these like houses.

1220
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 4: I have no idea what happened there.

1221
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: But what do you mean that you'd find a house underground?

1222
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 4: Like there was house So there was like chimneys that

1223
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 4: were on the ground.

1224
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, and.

1225
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 4: Then you would dig and there would be houses like

1226
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 4: you could just dig bricks and bricks and bricks.

1227
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: Whoa, wait, where is this.

1228
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 4: This isn't Michigan. It's in a town called Iron River.

1229
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1230
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 4: Okay, So like that house, that's where we started doing

1231
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 4: like witchcraft and stuff and just kind of like like spells,

1232
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 4: like we would just do like as kids, we would

1233
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 4: just be doing spells or whatever. But one night I

1234
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 4: was sleeping in the living room and she was asleep,

1235
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 4: like in the recliner across the room, and it was

1236
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 4: Christmas time. So I'm like laying there, I'm not asleep yet,

1237
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 4: and I'm looking at this ornament that's on the Christmas tree,

1238
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 4: like at the bottom of the Christmas tree. And then

1239
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 4: it started swinging back and forth. And then so I

1240
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 4: looked away, and through like my peripherals, I could see

1241
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 4: that it stopped moving, and then I would look back

1242
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 4: and it would start swinging again, and then I'd look

1243
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 4: away and it would stop, and then I'd look back,

1244
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 4: and so finally I decided to just keep staring at

1245
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 4: it to see what would happen. And it starts swinging

1246
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 4: like back and forth, back and forth, super fast and

1247
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 4: it flies off the Christmas tree into the middle of

1248
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 4: the room.

1249
01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: Weird, I know, so, But now was that because of

1250
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: your witchcraft or what was that all about.

1251
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 4: I kind of think that I was just like a

1252
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 4: mess as a kid, Like I was just into all

1253
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 4: sorts of stuff all the time. So I think that

1254
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 4: I was just like susceptible to whatever wanted to show

1255
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 4: itself to me.

1256
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean if you don't know, like, how

1257
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: were you learning about these spells? Did you like go

1258
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: to the library and just like check out a book

1259
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: or didn't like.

1260
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 4: Well, her sister had a book. Her sister had a

1261
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 4: book that we would do. One time, I did a

1262
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 4: spell to like get a boy to kiss me.

1263
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: Did it work?

1264
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 4: I had to get I had to get a blade

1265
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 4: of grass from his front lawn. It works. Yeah, he

1266
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 4: kissed me like two days later.

1267
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I want that spell. But I mean,

1268
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: if you i'm I don't. I actually don't know much

1269
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: about witchcraft, at least not in like I don't know

1270
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: much about like the the kind that can attract dark

1271
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: to your life. But I feel like if you're not

1272
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: doing it right, you could end up with a Christmas

1273
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: bulb flying across the room.

1274
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 4: Right, Like we were just stupid kids just doing Wigi boards.

1275
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 4: Like they say, you're supposed to say goodbye after you

1276
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 4: do the Wiji board. We never said goodbye. Well, so

1277
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 4: we didn't do like we were not doing it right.

1278
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,879
Speaker 4: So I think that it was just like all.

1279
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: Sorts of stuff just yeah.

1280
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: See, I recently learned that like you all have to

1281
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: lift your hands at the same time when you're doing

1282
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: a Wiji board or else that can like I don't know,

1283
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: open things up and stuff like I don't really I

1284
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: don't know, but there's definitely like ways of doing it

1285
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: that you got to know what you're doing.

1286
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 4: I know, I wish that I would have like looked back,

1287
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 4: like I wouldn't make I would just be bored in

1288
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 4: my room and I wouldn't make a Wigi board out

1289
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 4: of paper with like a CD. I would just like

1290
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 4: use the CD. I just being an animal, like a

1291
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 4: wild animal about it. I was so interested because I

1292
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 4: knew that it was real, and I knew that like

1293
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 4: I would be able to talk to someone and that

1294
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 4: it that it would actually happen. So it was really exciting,

1295
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 4: but it ended up just like seriously haunting me. For

1296
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 4: so long, like years and years and years. Wow. And

1297
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 4: I finally just like I got so irritated by just

1298
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 4: being scared all the time that I was just I

1299
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 4: decided to just not be scared anymore and to just

1300
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 4: start like yelling at them like I would.

1301
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: I would just be like.

1302
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 4: Fuck you, like you're not scaring me. Go away, I

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Speaker 4: live here, you don't even live on this plane, like

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Speaker 4: you can't do anything. And I would just vocalize this

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Speaker 4: whenever I got scared and just act tough. Yeah, And

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Speaker 4: I think that's kind of what did it. Like I

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Speaker 4: just stopped giving it energy and stopped feeding into the fear.

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Speaker 4: And I really haven't had like anything happened to me

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Speaker 4: in years. So I think I've gained power.

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Speaker 1: Over That's amazing because I feel like these probably these

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Speaker 1: dark and es are probably like, oh, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: this girl, and then they're like and then you're like

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Speaker 1: fuck you. And then they're like, oh, okay, fine, like

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Speaker 1: you're no.

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Speaker 4: Fun, bruise their ego a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, oh gosh, I thought it was being scary. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna move on to the next one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, But I mean everyone should do that,

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Speaker 4: like if, like if you're scared, because my aunt told

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Speaker 4: me once. I don't know if this is true, but

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Speaker 4: it's really helped me. She told me that like angels

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Speaker 4: and good beings, they can read your thoughts, but sad

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Speaker 4: ones can't read your thoughts. So if you just pretend,

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Speaker 4: even if you're like scared shitless in your head, if

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Speaker 4: you just don't give any of that off, then they can't.

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Speaker 4: They can't like feed off your fear.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, I'll keep that next time.

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Speaker 4: It might help you. But you know, it might just

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Speaker 4: be psychological, but that helps too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's good advice. I'll keep it in mind. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go find a blade of grass and

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Speaker 1: my crushes lawn. So thank you so much for calling.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. These are some good stories. Well

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Speaker 1: what do you know about that? That was a fun episode.

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