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Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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Speaker 1: and today we're discussing what you need to do before

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Speaker 1: your next online purchase. Yeah, Joel, you know with prid

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Speaker 1: Day it's coming up. Man, it's right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: It's quite timely that we're talking about online shopping. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about where we think it falls short. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the obvious downsides to online shopping, but

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Speaker 1: as well, we're gonna wrap things up with how to

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Speaker 1: be better at shopping online and saving money. So I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to leaving our listeners with some good tips. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they should be a fun one. In prime day, I

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Speaker 1: know some people get carried away with it. They buy

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Speaker 1: like eight instant pots because those are always on sale,

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Speaker 1: or they used to be. What's it gonna be this year?

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Speaker 1: Well it's been instant pots a lot of years. But

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Speaker 1: then there's a ton of other gadgets as well. A

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Speaker 1: little is yeah Toma Gucci and that like a little

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Speaker 1: electronic toy. I just made up a word and added

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Speaker 1: Gucci to the end of I think those were from

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Speaker 1: the nineties, and I'm pretty sure they were pronounced differently.

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Speaker 1: Yamagucci Tomagotchi. That's what. Yeah, there go, my little sister

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Speaker 1: had one of those. Totally remember that. Speaking of my

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Speaker 1: little sister, I wanted to quickly mention Matt that I've

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Speaker 1: got her on board riding her bike to work. So

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Speaker 1: she just moved kind of closer to her work, which

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Speaker 1: coincidentally is also where I work. Oh yeah, we work together.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of fun. It's kind of fun that

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Speaker 1: I get to work with my little sister every day,

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Speaker 1: and now that she's only eight or nine blocks away

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Speaker 1: kind of nice. Like, so I hop on my bike,

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Speaker 1: I ride most of the way, but I peel a

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Speaker 1: and then we've been riding in and it's been really fun.

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Speaker 1: It's been fun too, just to get to see her

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Speaker 1: realize that hopping in that car for even just the

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Speaker 1: eight blocks. I know most people don't live that close

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Speaker 1: to work. That's pretty exceptionally rare, but really cool that

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Speaker 1: she's seeing the value of biking to work. Man, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and literally the only two bikes in the park deck

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Speaker 1: my sister. That's right. Well you said you pick her

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Speaker 1: up as well. It's not like she's actually jumping on

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Speaker 1: the handlebars like little sister style. Yeah, I mean she

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Speaker 1: has her own bike like you said. She right, she

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Speaker 1: rides up to the to the building. Yeah, that's super

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Speaker 1: cool man. You know she rides eight and nine blocks.

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Speaker 1: How far is your house from work? Like eight or

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Speaker 1: nine miles? Uh? Yeah, almost eight miles? Okay, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know what the actual mileage was, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's amazing for her to actually start doing that.

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Speaker 1: And even though she's blood right, like she's your actual family,

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Speaker 1: she's not super uber cheap like we are. Right, she

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Speaker 1: doesn't out for the free haircuts like like you do.

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Speaker 1: Or she doesn't buy all of her eyeglasses from Zinny

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Speaker 1: does she know? But she gets haircuts a itt she does,

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Speaker 1: but she doesn't get the free ones. And and that's

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Speaker 1: okay and totally okay. She doesn't have to do everything

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Speaker 1: especially just I mean, driving a car eight blocks seems silly.

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Speaker 1: For the most part. She could even walk that right

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Speaker 1: eight blocks that's like New York living right there. Totally. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she totally could, although the bike's just so much easier.

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Speaker 1: It really is. That's fun, man. Yeah, So it's been

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Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it's all around good times. Do people

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Speaker 1: stare at ch'll see like the tall Norwegian couple, Uh,

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Speaker 1: It was kind of fun too, just to see the

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Speaker 1: faces like as we walk in holding our helmets or

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Speaker 1: whatever of our coworkers and they're like, all right, maybe

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Speaker 1: a little revolution is starting where we are. Probably not,

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Speaker 1: that matters? Yeah, all right, Matt Let's mention. The beer

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Speaker 1: that we're having on the show today. We're drinking a

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Speaker 1: beer called Fort by dog Fish Head Brewery and dog

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Speaker 1: Fish had dude, crazy cool name and they've been making

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Speaker 1: beers for a long time up there in Delaware. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: dog Fish head Man, they were one of the original

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Speaker 1: craft beer craft breweries. What was that guy's name? Do

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Speaker 1: you like the head brewers? When it's Sam something Sam Coucio,

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Speaker 1: And I think, is it really? Yeah? You with your

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Speaker 1: craft beer trivia, you're a better beer drinker than I am.

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Speaker 1: I guess. But I'm excited to have this one because

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Speaker 1: this is one that we can't actually purchase in Georgia

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Speaker 1: is another one that our buddy Tyler donated to the

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Speaker 1: show Man, And in particular, I think this is a

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Speaker 1: beer that you're going to really enjoy because guess what's

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Speaker 1: in it? Raspberries. We keep getting raspberry beers, and you

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Speaker 1: typically don't like raspberry beers. Song it people stop sending

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Speaker 1: me the raspberries. But you did enjoy the last raspberry

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Speaker 1: beer that we had, and I can tell you're already

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Speaker 1: digging this one too, So We've already had a couple

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Speaker 1: of SIPs on this one. And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: do like this one, well, I'll just tell you at

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Speaker 1: the end of the episode. There we go. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's called a tease in the radio biz. Joll. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: on the edge of their seats right now. They can't

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Speaker 1: wait to hear. All right, Matt, let's get onto the

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Speaker 1: subject at hand. What you need to do before your

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Speaker 1: next online purchase. And you were talking about online shopping

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Speaker 1: and Amazon Prime Day just about to happen. Whether you're

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Speaker 1: an Amazon Prime member or not, chances are you do

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Speaker 1: a good bit of purchasing online. Man. I know you

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Speaker 1: and I both do. Although the way we have viewed

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Speaker 1: online shopping is changed over the years. I'll be see.

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Speaker 1: We love getting a great deal, we love the convenience,

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Speaker 1: but we think there are other considerations that should be

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Speaker 1: getting a good deal, now, does that mean we're spending

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Speaker 1: less money in the long run. Also, we're going to

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Speaker 1: cover tools, plug ins, and the best sites in order

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Speaker 1: lot to cover here today. That's right, Joe. You know

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Speaker 1: our family. I feel that we do a like an

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Speaker 1: Like sites like Etsy have really taken off, and people

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Speaker 1: And so we are giving up purchasing locally supporting small

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Speaker 1: where else we could go nearby our house. Ye. So,

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Speaker 1: that purchase online from Amazon, right, No, that's completely true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think if you are a savvy online shopper you

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Speaker 1: searching for a smartphone and you want to read reviews first. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think YouTube is a great place to turn. There's

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Speaker 1: videos about smartphones, tells you all the features, price point,

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Speaker 1: just as many great expertise resources online in some categories. Also,

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Speaker 1: articles on a site like wire cutter or whatever can

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Speaker 1: you're paying for shipping costs twice and again like those

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00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 1: costs add up. Yeah. Another thing that's really important to

429
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 1: think about when you're online shopping is the price fluctuations

430
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 1: that occur constantly. Prices are changing online all the time,

431
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: sometimes down to the minute. The price that you see

432
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 1: one morning on Amazon or Walmart or best Buy or

433
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 1: whatever for a particular item might have changed by early

434
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 1: that afternoon, and then again by evening time. Online shopping

435
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 1: has also actually made the original manufacturers retail price much

436
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 1: harder to find. You might find the same item at

437
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 1: different online sites and they might be citing different original

438
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: retail prices for that same item, and so it's hard

439
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 1: to know whether the item is actually off or off

440
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 1: or you know what, that's actually the price they always

441
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: charged for it. It's actually muddled pricing, surprisingly in a

442
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 1: huge way than clarified it, which is what everyone thought

443
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 1: online shopping was gonna do. It was gonna make pricing

444
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 1: a heck of a lot easier for consumers to understand. Well,

445
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 1: it hasn't actually done that, And sometimes prices are as

446
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 1: clear as mud when you're shopping online, and in my opinion,

447
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 1: that's one of the worst parts of shopping online. Yeah, Joel,

448
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, and that's almost at the core of what

449
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: we're discussing here, is that online shopping is easily seen

450
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Speaker 1: as this way to save a lot of money, but

451
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,479
Speaker 1: in the end, I think it really could cost us

452
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: a lot more due to over consumption, unclear pricing, and

453
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: just the host of the different reasons that we're discussing here.

454
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 1: Another downside, right, another way that online retailers would have

455
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: get you are let's talk a little bit about product images.

456
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a photographer, I'm into pictures, but a

457
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: picture of a product, it only goes so far. When

458
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: you're in person, you can feel the texture of something.

459
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: You can kind of like tap it with your fingernail,

460
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,959
Speaker 1: you can pick it up really good a feel for it.

461
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: You can actually see the true color of it if

462
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: you're looking at, you know, clothing. When you're shopping online,

463
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: it's really hard to do that. So you order something,

464
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: you have it shipped to you, and then you unpackage

465
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: it and you realize after ten seconds of actually holding

466
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: it in real life, that it's an item that you

467
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 1: don't want, and so then you have to go through

468
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: the hassle of repackaging it, you know, returning it, waiting

469
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 1: for it to get credited back to your credit card.

470
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of hassle to do something that

471
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: would have taken you a few seconds where you in

472
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Speaker 1: an old school brick and mortar store. Oh Man, Online

473
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: returns such a hasshole, be because then I gotta drive

474
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: somewhere anyway just to return that item. I mean, maybe

475
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: some people schedule their returns to be picked up at

476
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 1: their house. That's probably a really good idea, but I've

477
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 1: never done that, and I know some online retailers make

478
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 1: returns a whole heck of a lot easier. It just

479
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: depends where you shop. But then you're also talking, Matt

480
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: about a double negative impact to the environment when we

481
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Speaker 1: are giving the item ship to our house and then

482
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: also doing the return shipping. The environmental impact of online shopping,

483
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to quantify. It's kind of hard

484
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: to know whether it's actually more harmful to shop at

485
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: big stores or something nearby that use a lot of energy.

486
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: The cars it takes to drive there, the energy it

487
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Speaker 1: takes to cool and heat those spaces. It's just hard

488
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: to know which way of shopping is better for the environment.

489
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, then on the other hand, when you're ordering

490
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Speaker 1: a ton online, like you said, you've got the truck

491
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 1: driving back and forth just dropping off single packages, when

492
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: if had you gone into the regular store, you could

493
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: have picked up I don't know, ten items, maybe all

494
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: at once, and instead you are making several purchases and

495
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: so you're getting a few different ship and then if

496
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: you end up returning all of those and you're swimming

497
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: in that sea of cardboard. Man, I hate to admit this,

498
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: but right now we are swimming in cardboard. We have

499
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: almost an entire room that just is full of cardboard

500
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: because we're making those purchases to kind of get that

501
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: Airbnb ready, and so it feels wasteful. It feels like

502
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: there is a lot that we are recycling. We're throwing

503
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: in the recycling bin, breaking those boxes down. Like you said, Man,

504
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to quantify, and I don't know which

505
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: side of the fence I kind of fall on when

506
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: it comes to the environmental impacts. Yeah, and I think

507
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: the one thing that we have in our hands at

508
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: least when it comes to mitigating or lessening the environmental

509
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: impacts we make by our shopping is to a shop

510
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: less in general, whether it's online origin stores, just to

511
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: create less manufacturing of new goods, and then be to

512
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Speaker 1: when we are making an online purchase, do it less

513
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: often and lump more things that you planned on buying

514
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: into one order so they can be packaged together. And

515
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: I know that's not always possible, but it's just one

516
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: good thing to keep in mind that will kind of

517
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: cut down on the deliveries in the package. Yeah, that's

518
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: always an option, right when you're checking out on Amazon

519
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: to kind of ship my packages in as few as possible.

520
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: Have you seen Amazon has got this new Your Amazon

521
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: Day thing where that where you basically choose the day

522
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: of the week and they don't deliver anything to your

523
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: house except for that one day. And so good for

524
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: them for actually doing something like that. They're kind of

525
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: taking a proactive step towards reducing waste. I'm a little

526
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: bit of a skeptic, and so I know they're also

527
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: doing this because they're trying to make their drivers more efficient. Right,

528
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: It's like, if you have to go to a house,

529
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: cut down on their own shipping costs exactly, if they

530
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: haven't only have to go to a house one time

531
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Speaker 1: out of the week versus you know, if you're ordering

532
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: something every day of the week Monday through Friday. Well,

533
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: you know that costs them a lot of money to

534
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: make those shipments. But other way, it's it's sort of

535
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: a win win situation. I think it's pretty cool that

536
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: they're rolling that out. Yeah, just a couple more things

537
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: about the downsides of shopping online. Well, it hurts the

538
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: small businesses around us, like we mentioned before, and some

539
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: of those small business owners are our neighbors. And also

540
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: there are lots of options when you're shopping online sometimes,

541
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: and I would say, this is what I get overwhelmed

542
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: with is there's just too many options. Decision fatigue sets in,

543
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: and when you are shopping online, it can be hard

544
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: to stop your search and just make a choice, make

545
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: a decision. And so if you're shopping for a faucet,

546
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: let's say, for a bathroom, the choices seem endless when

547
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: you're shopping online. When you go to a local hardware

548
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: store or a Lows or something like that, there are

549
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: a finite amount of choices and that just makes it

550
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: a little bit easier, at least on my brain, because

551
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: I can get lost in a sea of internet searches

552
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: for a particular item, to find the perfect thing. Dude,

553
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: have you ever been to build dot com? It's like,

554
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a hardware it's basically a side dedicated

555
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: to like renovating your house. No, I don't think I have. Okay,

556
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: there's like I'm gonna guess, twenty two thousand facets that

557
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: that you can sort of sort through and come through.

558
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: It is insane versus Yeah, like you said, going to

559
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: your local store, there might be twenty tops kind of

560
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 1: all mounts it to the wall for you to look at.

561
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: And this is you know that would be at a

562
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: huge store or something like that. But I mean, I'm

563
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: with you. The more options I have that the harder

564
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: it is to make it decision because you think, well,

565
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: is that the right one? Versus if you are only

566
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: given you know, a limited number of options makes the

567
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: decision process so much easier, Yeah, no doubt. And something

568
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: else Man to talk about is speed. Even with the

569
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: same day delivery, it still takes time for you to

570
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: receive that item. There is an immediacy of purchasing something

571
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: in person if you need that thing right away. It's

572
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: not that hard to think of instances where we needed something,

573
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: you know, very quickly, like we're talking about hardware, man,

574
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: any sort of home renovation project where you think, oh, yeah,

575
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: this will take twenty minutes and I've got all the parts,

576
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: ends up taking two hours and you've got to take

577
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: a couple more runs to the store. You know what

578
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, right, I've been there too many times.

579
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: Account or sometimes when you order something though a lot

580
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: of times they can even be just seriously delayed or

581
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: even back ordered. Something that would have taken you twenty

582
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: minutes to run to the store, and purchases now taking

583
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: you two weeks because it has to arrive in a

584
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: container at a shipping port before it sent to a

585
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: distribution center. Yeah, and on top of that, porch pirates,

586
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: they're the worst. Man, I've never heard that term. I've

587
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: been remember that term pirates. Yeah, that's the common parlance

588
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: for people that steal packages, those jerks. How's that a

589
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: turned that you use. We live in the same neighborhood,

590
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: but I've never heard it when he's like, I don't

591
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: know what, man, I feel like when you're reading online,

592
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: that's what they call the people that steel packages. I

593
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, So that is another problem, right for

594
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: getting online deliveries, is something being stolen in the process

595
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: of its sitting on your porch until you get home

596
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: that evening. Yeah, I've never had something stolen out of

597
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: my hand when I was walking from the store to

598
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: my car or like before I got home, right, Like,

599
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: no one's ever stolen something from me that just didn't

600
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: happen that I remember. Yeah, you got knocked out for

601
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, So that's just another thing you need

602
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: to think about. They're all these potential issues with online

603
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: shopping so on, which we know at least upfront. Others

604
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: of which we've just discussed, maybe you hadn't even thought about.

605
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: But it's nice to at least know that going into it,

606
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: so you can make an informed decision as to whether

607
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: you want to buy in a store locally, whether that's

608
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: a locally owned business or a bigger business. But you

609
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: know what, we've got some specific techniques and extensions and

610
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: websites that you need to visit when you are shopping

611
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: online in order to find the best deal. And we're

612
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: going to get to that stuff right after the break.

613
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: All right, Joe, we're back from the break. You know,

614
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: we've kind of bashed on online shopping enough. I feel

615
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: like the it's our duty as a frugal guys to

616
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: not just talk about the best way is to be

617
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: a great online shopper. Yeah, you know, I really actually

618
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: like online shopping. Like a lot of probably people that

619
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: are listening right now, they're like, what's going on? Why

620
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: do these guys hate online shopping so much? And it's

621
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: truly not that. I just really want people to know

622
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: what they're getting into. These are the things that are

623
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: going on in the back of my brain while I'm

624
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: bruising online, I'm thinking about the fact that the M

625
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: S r P is completely impossible to actually find. I'm

626
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: thinking about what it might cost locally before I actually

627
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: clicked to purchase. Those are just the things I want

628
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: you thinking about before you just clicked by mindlessly. Right.

629
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: But obviously neither of us are against online shopping, and

630
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: the most provable way to show folks that would be

631
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: just probably just to take a picture of all those

632
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: cardboard boxes in that room. Mate. We'll post that on

633
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: Instagram maybe, and then I'll also post a picture of

634
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: all of the Amazon dash buttons that you have set

635
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: up around your house. Don't tell anybody, it's not true.

636
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: What if you had dash buttons set up for Amazon Alexis, Dude?

637
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: What if we had a dash button for craft Beer? Oh? Okay,

638
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: that that actually sounds pretty s all right, you want

639
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: to kick this thing off. Yeah, we need to talk

640
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: about some of the sites in particular that will help

641
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: you as you're trying to find the best deal when

642
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: you're looking online, because, like we said, the waters can

643
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: be murky and it can be hard to actually know

644
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: when you found a good price or whether you're paying

645
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: too much. And so there are sites like slick Deals,

646
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 1: Clark Deals, and deal News, and those are sites that

647
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: list a lot of deals every day, and so in

648
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: my mind, the best way to use these sites is

649
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: not necessarily for perusing. It's not just shopping for a

650
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: random deal that might strike your fancy. And that's actually

651
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: kind of how I used to use those sites. I

652
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: liked shopping for a deal, and I would buy stuff

653
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: that I didn't need, And so I don't recommend that

654
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: you use them in that way. But when you are

655
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: looking for specific items, in particular typing that item name

656
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: into the search bar, you're shopping for a refrigerator or

657
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: a washer dryer or whatever it might be, turning to

658
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: those sites and then using the search bar to your

659
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: advantage there on a deal's aggregator site can be really

660
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: helpful and actually help you find the best price. You know,

661
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: I hopped on there the other day looking for some

662
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: Adita slides because I've got a pair that I keep

663
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: at the front of the house. And it sounds kind

664
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: of ridiculous, but I thought, you know what if I

665
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: can only spend a few bucks and get a pair

666
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: for the back of the house, so when I take

667
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: out the trash, I would love to have a pair

668
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: of shoes in the back door. You're the richest man,

669
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: I know, that's the craziest thing. But come on, it's

670
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: just like a few bucks and for me to not

671
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: have to like walk to the front of my house

672
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: to grab shoes so I don't have to walk barefoot

673
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: through the rain in order to throw the trash in

674
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: the trash can. For me, it would be worth it. No,

675
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: all right, here's the thing. We're instituting a new rule.

676
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: You have to do burpies to the front of the

677
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: house in order to get those sandals before you can

678
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: take the trash out. Well, what I was gonna share though,

679
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: is that I found some Adita slides, but they just

680
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: had like ridiculous sizes size six and then size is

681
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: twelve plus. I didn't get any twelve not ridiculous. Okay,

682
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: is that what size you're wear? Yeah? Come on, weirdo. No,

683
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: but like, seriously, you only need one pair and just

684
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: do the burpies to go get your dava sandals. Okay,

685
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: what are you talking about burpies for? You don't even

686
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: do cross fit? I don't, I don't, but can you

687
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: even do a pull up. I just don't like to

688
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: hear how soft you've gotten two pairs of Adita sandals. Dude,

689
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: that's weird. I understand where you're coming from, right, my principle,

690
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: it sounds pretty soft. You're wondering where your co host

691
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: is gone. I'm just saying a few bucks there might

692
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: improve my life drastically. That's all I want to say. Okay, alright,

693
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: some items though that cost more than a few bucks.

694
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about apple products. I stuck this in here

695
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: because you know me, I love my apple stuff. You

696
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: need to know about the mac Rumors Buyer's Guide. That's

697
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: a website where you can go on and see all

698
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: the different Apple products, and they basically will tell you

699
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: it's sort of like a stoplight. It's either green, yellow,

700
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: or red. They'll tell you to go ahead and either

701
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: buy that now, or maybe you shouldn't buy that now.

702
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: A lot of it is based on rumors, but you know,

703
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: they do look at the specific product life cycles and

704
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: they'll make recommendations on whether you should buy those things

705
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: now or whether you should wait. However, a key distinction

706
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: I want to make though, is that they'll tell you

707
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: to buy something now. If there's a brand new product

708
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: out right. Let's just say we're talking about iPads. If

709
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: there's a new iPad out, they'll tell you to go

710
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: ahead and by it now because there's there's a new

711
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: one and they want you to have the newest, latest,

712
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: greatest iPad. But what that tells me is to go

713
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: ahead and buy it now, but not the new one.

714
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: You want to make sure that you were looking at

715
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: the old version, because chances are the prices have dropped

716
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: on that one and you're gonna be able to get

717
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: a much better deal in real quick too. I mean,

718
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: if you're looking at Apple products, definitely look at buying

719
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: their refurbished items. They come with the manufacturer's warranty, they're

720
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 1: basically brand new. Almost all of the Apple products that

721
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: I've purchased in the past ten years have all been refurbished,

722
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: and they've been great. Nice. Okay, Matt, let's talk about

723
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: some techniques that we can use to shop online to

724
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: help us get the best price. In the first thing,

725
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna mention, here is something I've never heard of,

726
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: and you tip me off to. So why don't you

727
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: fill this in? Yeah, man, And what you're referring to

728
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: is to search Google for an image for more expensive items.

729
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: What you can do, you can pull up an image

730
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: of what you're looking for in Google Images, and then

731
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: if you're in Chrome, you can control click or right

732
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: click and select search Google for image. And what that'll

733
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: do is it'll pull up some websites where you can

734
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: potentially find a deal of the exact same item. It's

735
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: just a different site with a lot of products coming

736
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: from manufacturing plants, like a lot of times they use

737
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: the exact same photo, and so if you're able to

738
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: search that specific photo, you can basically source the identical product,

739
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: but for a lot cheaper. So you're basically saying that

740
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: sometimes manufacturers will have a different I D or something

741
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: for that item, different I D or they'll just call

742
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: it something completely different or you know, or it'll be

743
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: a similar name, but it's just not the exact same item. Yeah. No,

744
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: that's cool. I mean, I think you're right in in

745
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: this age of price comparisons and retailers not necessarily wanting

746
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: to compete with each other on price, by just differentiating

747
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: the item name or the item number, they're able to

748
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: not have the price match, which is kind of a

749
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: sneaky thing. But it totally happens all the time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Case in point, Kate, my wife, she found a bed

751
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, that she really liked online at West Elm

752
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: and West Elm it's a little nicer of a furniture store.

753
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: They got some nicer stuff there, and she tried that

754
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: trick out and she searched that image and found it

755
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: at World Markets for seven hundred bucks cheaper, which was

756
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: a huge savings man for the exact same bed, at

757
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: least from what we could tell, it was the exact

758
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: same picture, looked exactly the same, and because of that

759
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: quick search man, we saved a ton of money. Yeah,

760
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: there was a lawsuit that happened a bunch of years

761
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: ago where someone had found something on a fancy site

762
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: like West Elm and it was a thousand dollar patio

763
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: furniture set, and they thought they were really smart and

764
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: they did some searching. They found that exact same set

765
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: on a site. I'm pretty sure it was wayfair for

766
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: half the price. It was like five bucks, and they're like,

767
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: this is a great deal, and so they ordered it,

768
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: and then when the item got there to their house,

769
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: they saw an old Walmart price tag on it for

770
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: like two seven dollars, like half of the price they

771
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: bought it for. And so that's the kind of thing

772
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: that happens on the internet all the time. And yeah,

773
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: if you want to be a smart shopper, doing something

774
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: like this, image search can be really helpful so that

775
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: you're not just searching the item name, because even just

776
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: that can lead you to pay far too much, right,

777
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of crazy. Yeah, man, it's it's nuts.

778
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 1: You know. It doesn't always work. I don't want people

779
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: to think that this is something that you can always do,

780
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: but in particular for more expensive items, it's definitely worth

781
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: a quick Google image search and then just searching Google

782
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: for image, right, Like that's all you gotta do. Yeah.

783
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: Another technique you should consider when shopping online is to

784
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: know the time to buy specific items. And so nerd

785
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Wallett is a really cool site that Matt and I like.

786
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of great information and they have

787
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: a comprehensive list of the best times to buy certain things.

788
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: So seasonality is really important in retail, and it's just

789
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: as important in online retail. So when you're looking to

790
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: buy things online, what you're gonna want to make sure

791
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: that you're buying in the proper season. For instance, TVs

792
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: are best to buy in January, and that's because of

793
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Furniture is best to buy in May,

794
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: and you'll find the best deals on mattresses in September,

795
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, So yeah, it's a good list. It's a

796
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: good thing to keep in mind that buying things in

797
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: their proper season is going to be a good technique

798
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: to help you save more money when you are doing

799
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: shopping online. Nice man, now you know when you can

800
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: get get your big boy, grown up adult mattress. I

801
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: know I've been I've been waiting, been holding out, and

802
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: and now I know I'm gonna have to wait a

803
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: little bit longer until September in order to make that buy.

804
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: And then finally, we want to discuss what we think

805
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: might have one of the largest impacts on you saving

806
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: money when it comes to shopping online, and that is

807
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: through extensions through your web browser. Specifically, I'm talking about Honey,

808
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: which you can download and install as a Google Chrome extension.

809
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: And if you haven't heard of Honey, let me just

810
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: tell you about it. I'm a huge fan with it.

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00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: You don't have to waste time googling and searching for

812
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: promo codes. It'll automatically apply this for you. Right, So

813
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: when you are checking out in your cart, it'll ask

814
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: you if you want to check for codes. It will

815
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: automatically apply those codes to get you the best deal.

816
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: And it cycles through all the codes that are out there,

817
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of them and a lot of

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00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: them notework And guess what, Man, I don't have time

819
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: for that. Nobody got time for that. Over that, and

820
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: Honey does that for me automatically. I love it. You know,

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00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: there was an older service that I used to use

822
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: called Invisible Hand, and it did something really similar when

823
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: when I was on a web page looking at an item,

824
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: it would tell me whether there was a better deal

825
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: on another website. But I feel like Honey has kind

826
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: of just jumped over where Invisible Hand was and they're

827
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: providing a lot more value than just that. And yeah,

828
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: it just works. It's a huge time saver and money saver,

829
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: and that's nice. Yeah, you know, Invisible Hand they're still

830
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: out there, they're just not quiet as it as they

831
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: used to be, and like you said, Honey, they're just

832
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: kind of crushing it these days. However, you might want

833
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: to check out some other extensions. For instance, wiki by

834
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: is one that's out there that is really good when

835
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: it comes to, you know, different coupon codes. But then

836
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: keep A and the camel Lizer, and that's from the

837
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: website Camel Camel Camel. Have you ever heard of that one? Yeah,

838
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: I have because the name sticks out right. I don't

839
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: think you don't ever forget the name Camel Camel Camel

840
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: on the website. So it's definitely worth checking those out

841
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: if you want. But bottom line, in my experience, they're

842
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: they're not as good as Honey. They all do parts

843
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: of what Honey does. Honey just does it all, and

844
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: they do it better. Honey also does price history, which

845
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: is what keep A and camel Lizer tout as one

846
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: of the biggest features. They also have what's called a

847
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: drop list as well, and that's where you can set

848
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: up a price alert if you add it to your

849
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: drop list, and you can even set a specific percentage

850
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: as well. That way, if the price fluctuate is just

851
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, you're not gonna get, you know, notifications

852
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: if it drops two But if you say, hey, if

853
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: it ever drops more than ten percent, let me know

854
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: because I want to buy it. Well, guess what, You'll

855
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: get that message and then you'll know when to pounce

856
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: because you'll get a deal that is slick. Man, that

857
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: is really nice. Yeah, that's really cool. I think these extensions,

858
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: these online shopping tools, taking into consideration the deal sites

859
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: as well doing some searches when you're looking for a

860
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: particular item. I feel like all those things in concert

861
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: can kind of help people when they're shopping online to

862
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: kind of make sure that they're getting a really good

863
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: deal and kind of helped create some certainty in the

864
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: online buying process because there is right now, at least

865
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty. It's just kind of hard to know.

866
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: Despite the many sites and the ease of price comparison,

867
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: you still kind of don't know whether you're getting a

868
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: great deal or not, in spite of the fact that

869
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: there's so much competition and ease of price comparison. Yeah,

870
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: that's where these extensions come in. You know. The only

871
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: downside with them though, is I feel like the more

872
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: extensions you install on Google Chrome, the junk starts slowing down.

873
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever noticed that, but I

874
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: definitely have. Yeah, and honestly, just kind of getting bombarded

875
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: with stuff in your face. That's the part that I

876
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: hate the most, pop up aspect of it. Yeah. Yeah,

877
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: it's like, now something else I have to think about.

878
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: But if it saves me money, it's totally worth it, right,

879
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: that's the truth, man. And you know what, we'd be

880
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: remiss if we didn't recommend to folks to consider mining used. Obviously,

881
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: we've talked about eBay before. We love eBay. We'd also

882
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: recommend for folks to check out shop Goodwill dot com. Joel,

883
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: have you ever gone on to shop Goodwill and then

884
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: made a purchase? No, but you're the first person that

885
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: told me about it, and I have really done some

886
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: perusing back in the day. I've never bought anything on there.

887
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: I need to go give it another shot. So it's

888
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: been a couple of years actually since I've been on there,

889
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: and I will say I was checking them out today

890
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: in preparation for this episode. They've totally made their platform

891
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: look more like eBay. Like basically, I think when they

892
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: sat down with their code guys that's what they're called, right,

893
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: code guys, the technical term the code ladies. It's like, hey,

894
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: code ladies, can you make this site look exactly like eBay.

895
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: But it really does feel a lot like eBay, And

896
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: I say that as good thing, because before it was

897
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: really tough to navigate those really jankie Now it makes

898
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: a lot more sense and it's easy to use, So

899
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: I might have to hop on there and purchase another

900
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: pair of Sperry topsiders, which was the very first thing

901
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: I ever purchased on a shop goodwill dot com. Do

902
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: you remember how much you paid for him? I want

903
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: to say, like nine bucks? Nine bucks. They're brand new.

904
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: They're obviously exactly my size, which is nine and a half.

905
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: By the way, not weirdoh size twell feet like you've got.

906
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: I guess I got clown feet, But be sure to

907
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: check them out. They've got some awesome stuff. I just

908
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: take Shaquille O'Neil's hand me down shoes, So yeah, size

909
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: matches perfectly there, all right, Matt. So let's get back

910
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: to the beer that we had on the show today.

911
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: We had a beer called fort by dog fish Head.

912
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: I feel like it was quite unique in its presentation.

913
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had a beer that tasted

914
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: like this before. I think I said that weird, but

915
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: I didn't mean I like it Okay, all right. It

916
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: tasted to me like a barley wine, which is the

917
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: style I really like, and it had raspberry juice in it,

918
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: which gave it just a little bit of brightness, which

919
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: you really don't get typically in a barley wine. Usually

920
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: there's zero brightness in a barley wine. And so yeah,

921
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: I thought the raspberry juice actually kind of cut through

922
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: nicely and it made this beer feel nice and well rounded.

923
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: And I can really appreciate this beer for what it

924
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: is and the unique qualities that it brings. It's a

925
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: one of a kind beer that I really enjoyed. Yeah,

926
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind have one of these again, but only

927
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: if Tyler is going to provide them for us, right,

928
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Tyler for donating this one to the show.

929
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: But man, I'm completely with you. You're talking about how

930
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: it tasted bright. I don't know what it was about

931
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: this beer, but a lot of times I talk about

932
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: like fresh, hot beers tasting bright or I'll say they

933
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: taste alive to me. And something about this beer and

934
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: this is aged Tyler. He sellers his beers, and so

935
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: I know this one was at least three years old,

936
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: and with my first sip Man, it tasted alive and bright,

937
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: which you normally don't get from a darker beer like this.

938
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: I can get behind the raspberries in this beer because

939
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't a really sour tart raspberry, but it was

940
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: an oak aged kind of chocolate covered raspberry right like.

941
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: It had these bigger, thicker flavors with the fruit that

942
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: made it really easy and delicious to drink. It very

943
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: much felt like a sort of like a decadent dessert,

944
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: but at the same time pretty bright and alive. Yeah.

945
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how they did it, but I'm really

946
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: impressed with this beer. Man. I feel like dog fish

947
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: Head on their kind of more extreme beers like this,

948
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: they just crush it. I'm not really prone to pick

949
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: up a six pack of dog fish Head, but they're

950
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: one off like this. Like Doc, fish Head has always

951
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: been a little extreme and how they brew beers. I've

952
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: always appreciated that because they always come out with something

953
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: unique because of it, and this beer is no exception.

954
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: All right, Joe, Before we wrap this one up, let's

955
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: go ahead and give our quick final thoughts on this episode.

956
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: All right, Matt, let's do it. I think what I

957
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: want to leave people with I hope we weren't too

958
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: negative about online shopping, because it is really incredible how

959
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: quickly and easily we can get things shipped to our doors.

960
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: And I know, especially with folks that have busy lives,

961
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: big families, kids to take care of, two parents working, whatever.

962
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: There's so many reasons that online shopping has proliferated, has

963
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: become such a beast, and so there are a lot

964
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: of reasons, a lot of positive benefits to shopping online.

965
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: I just think it's important to reiterate here that we

966
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: think about shopping local and when it might actually be

967
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: a superior route for us, even if it ends up

968
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: costing a bit more. You might miss out on some

969
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: of those intangibles like the expertise of someone who works there,

970
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: the community vibe, and the opportunity to support local businesses

971
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: to your neighborhood if you only think about shopping online, Yeah,

972
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: don't forget those local brick and mortar benefits. However, if

973
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: you are going to shop online, make sure that you're

974
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: checking out the different deal websites, specifically slick deals dot com.

975
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: They're they're pretty much the best. They're really good. Will

976
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: link to the others in the notes as well. Also,

977
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: if you're not already using Google Chrome, it's way better

978
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: than Internet Explore, way better than Safari. You want to

979
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: use that anyway. But while you're at it, go ahead

980
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: and download the Honey extension. There's a really good chance

981
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: that it will save you money every single time you

982
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: make a purchase online by automatically applying discount codes as

983
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: well as showing you the pricing history. That way you

984
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: know if you're getting a deal or not. Joel, I

985
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be it for this episode, man, say

986
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: it ain't so bunny. This is fun. Let's wrap it up.

987
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: Show notes can be found at how its money dot

988
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: com and there will be sure to link to all

989
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: these different websites and extensions that you can check out

990
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: on your own. Yeah, and thanks to everybody for listening.

991
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: If you found this episode helpful or our podcast in general,

992
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: we would really appreciate it. If you'd consider leaving a

993
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: review on Apple Podcasts. It means a lot to us

994
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 1: and it helps new potential listeners understand what the show

995
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: is all about. That's right, Joel. So until next time,

996
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: best Friends Out, Best Friends Out.