1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sportsradio dot com, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: So Mick Cronin's UCLA Bruins beat Illinois this year, beat 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: Purdue this year, beat Michigan State this year, and battle 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: with Arizona, who many believes the best team. I think 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: Michigan's the best team. And Mick Cronin, UCLA basketball coach, 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: two time Pack twelve Coach of the Year twenty twenty 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is joining US. Okay, So you also 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: played Yukon and you beat Michigan State. I think that 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: game is interesting. Cohen Carr is one of my favorite 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: players in the tournament. He's just this relentless guy. I 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: kind of thought, what happened to you in the second 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: half of Yukon, Mick, is what happens to a lot 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: of people with Yukon their physical Uh, you know, you 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: end up it's hard to hit shots Yukon Michigan State. 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: You beat Michigan State, what's the game gonna look like? 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: Do you think tonight? 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 3: I think it's just gonna be whose defense is better. 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 4: At the end of the day. They're both built on 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: toughness and defense with great coaches. 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 4: At the they do it differently though. Yukon is a 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: real pressure team on the ball, and as you said, 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: you know they our guards didn't finish the kind of 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 4: wore them down. We didn't have our best player in 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: the game, Tyler Bildeo, And they do wear teams down 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 4: with that relentless effort on the ball. 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: Defensively, Michigan State is a team defense, uh, but highly 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: effective boath. 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: You know. 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 4: Obviously both great coaches. Uh, both will end up in 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. One already is, so they may 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: wear football pads tonight. 39 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: The You know, Illinois I think was the best offensive 41 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: team in the country. You beat them. You have to 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: hit your shots to beat them because they're gonna score. 43 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: Are you surprised? I don't think anybody surprised. Illinoi's here. 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: They spend a lot of money there, Nil was a lot. 45 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: They went to Europe. Underwood likes European guys. Michigan State's 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: not a surprise. It's interesting. Matt Painter's interesting. He brings 47 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: about one guy a year in He basically pays his 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: own guys like they do their own thing in West Lafayette. 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: Are you surprised, I'm not surprised because I think they 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: feel a little villanova to me. You know, they kind 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: of they do their own thing. They high school it, 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: the guys stay there. Are you surprised by any of 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: these Big Ten teams so far? 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: No, Now, I'll give you know. 55 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: So I've been in the league two years, but Fusher Lawyer, 56 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: Trey Coauflin w Ren and Superman is what I call 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 4: Braden Smith. They said it in an interview in January 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: early February that in their four years, the Big Tens 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: by far has the most talent and is as good 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: a league as they've ever been in. And it's just 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 4: surpassed their first three years. And that's coming from those four, 62 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: you know, those three guys. So I would say, you know, 63 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 4: for Purdue mass enjoying it, I think, you know, Colin 64 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: their preseason number one, it was almost like to me, 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: they just got to get through the regular season. 66 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they've been you know, Smith already one Player 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: of the. 68 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: Year, they've all been All League already, they've won big games. 69 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: They needed to get. 70 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: Through the regular season, get healthy, and get to this tournament. 71 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: Not that they didn't care, but you know what I'm. 72 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: Saying, kind of like a you know, great teams in 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: the NBA, it's just get me to the playoffs. And 74 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: I think you're you know, you're seeing it now. But 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: they got it obviously. Saturday tremendously tough matchup with Arizona. 76 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: So I've been defending coaches that bark this week, and 77 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: I think most people, I think most people understand that 78 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: volume works because I one of the things I always 79 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: say as an NBA coach, gets multiple games in this 80 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: you get a thirty second time out and the season's 81 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: on the line. You get one game, one bad call 82 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: by an official, one of your guys gets in foul trouble. 83 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: You know, careers end what has always been your sort 84 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: of rule. Arenas are loud, it's intense, you want to play, 85 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: you want to get along with the player, but they 86 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: can transfer at any time. It's a different ballgame. Where 87 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: do you land on tough coaching, hard coaching? In the 88 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: world of the transfer portal. 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 3: No different than before. 90 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: I think first of all, your players have to know 91 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: that you know what you're talking about, so do they 92 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: believe you're making them a better player. Secondly, they signed 93 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: up to play for coaches that winning is the only 94 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: thing acceptable. Listening is the only thing that's acceptable, and 95 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: doing whatever it takes and giving your best effort is 96 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: the only thing acceptable. So they understand when they didn't 97 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: do that. They didn't listen repeatedly. He went over a 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 4: scouting report a million times, and they didn't do the 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: job right. So you know, it's becomes Collins such a 100 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: clickbait world that I'll give you a quick one. Rick 101 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 4: Pattino last year didn't put r J. Luis in the 102 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: game at the end. If you remember they lost to Arkansas. 103 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: He was their best player and he got murdered. Murdered, 104 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: And he may be the best college coach since John wouldn't. 105 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: He's argued with him, Mike Crchefki, Bob Knight. Obviously John 106 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 4: Wooden would be wrong. Okay, Now this year, everybody's celebrating 107 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: coach Patino because Dylan Darling made a layup. Now if 108 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: he doesn't make that and they lose an overtime. Oh 109 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: he blew a twelve point ly. But you know everybody 110 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 4: is today. What can I say, John BONDI look, at 111 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: the end of the day, whether Darling makes that lay 112 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 4: up or not, Rick Portino is one of the best 113 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: ever and everybody, everybody doesn't different differently, and right now. 114 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 3: It's oh, you know this guy's too intense tonight. 115 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 4: I heard Dan Hurley and coaches are both getting asked 116 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: those questions. 117 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 118 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: Look, when you win, everybody loves you. When you lose, 119 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 4: everybody crushes you. And that's just the look. And we 120 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 4: get paid a lot of money. So if you can't 121 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: take the heat, you will not survive the kitchen in 122 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: this era because it's twenty four to seven scrutiny. 123 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: Saint John's's, I mean they beat Kansas, and Kansas outshot 124 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: him points in the paint, more rebounds, and cause Saint 125 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: John's is a team that just you know, they Beatino laughs. 126 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: He's like, they don't think we can shoot, and so 127 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: far we're proving him right. Would you be shown if 128 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: Saint John's beat Duke tonight, would it shock you? 129 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 130 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: I think everybody has picked Saint John's because coach Bettina's 131 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: like my older brother. Now, I mean, I wouldn't be 132 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 4: here if it wasn't for him. I think everybody's picking 133 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 4: them through the trendy pick. They're forgetting how talented Duke is. 134 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 4: It will be to me it would be a monumental upset. Now, 135 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: it's because Saint John's is all tried and athleticism. They 136 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 4: have to turn Duke over and be able to get 137 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: the ball in the basket. 138 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: Because the oldest thing is Colin. 139 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: You can't press if you don't score, so you can't 140 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: pick him up full court and do what you do 141 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: if you can't get it in the basket. Guess who's 142 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: number one in defensive efficiency? Hardest team to score on Duke. 143 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: So it's to me it's gonna be. It would be 144 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: a big, big upset. Although obviously I'll be wearing red 145 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: for my man cooas Patino tonight. 146 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: I think Michigan's the best team. Talk about Michigan, the 147 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: Michigan you face. You know, Lindenborg's terrific of you obviously know, Maa. 148 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: You tell me what you think about their roster. 149 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: We have three first round picks. Lenden Borg's a lottery picked. 150 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: Mara's going to be a tremendous pro He just needed 151 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: time to grow up incrementally better each year, and it's 152 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: a disadvantage, you know, when you come from a small 153 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 4: town in Spain. 154 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: He just needed time and growth. He's a great kid. 155 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: Res Johnson is Montrez Arel, I mean almost, but he's 156 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: a little taller. Their front line is unbelievable. Now Kason 157 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: getting hurt took a little punching away from them, but 158 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: they bring a guy off the best, Trey McKinney's gonna 159 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: play a long time in the NBA. 160 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: They have the best talent. They have seniors. 161 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: Rob they haven't got Roddy Dale off the bench and 162 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 4: would start for any other team in a Big Ten. 163 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: So their talent, I agree with you at times. At 164 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 4: times I think they take early shots and settle and 165 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: they let teams hang around out of overconfidence. Because in 166 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: early in the season, you're talking about a team that 167 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: was winning games by forty points against Gonzaga, you know, 168 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: team like real teams like who does that? So you know, again, 169 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 4: I think for them, and they did it against Purdue 170 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: in the Big Ten championship game. They let produce stay 171 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 4: in the game, so they tend to let you stay 172 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 4: around by shooting early threes and not just pounding you 173 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: to death with their size. If they do that and 174 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: they played to their maximum, I totally agree with you. 175 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: They're the best team you guys gave Arizona. If I 176 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: recall a good game. I mean, they have bench guys 177 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: that can start for teams. What is the they don't 178 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: shoot a lot of threes? What is the secret? Your 179 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: UCLA Bruins gave them a battle? What's the secret to 180 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: beating Arizona. 181 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 4: Well, we have blood basts with them every year, so 182 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: we kind of know each other so well. The games 183 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: tend to be really close. Tommy Lloyd is an unbelievable coach. 184 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 4: Their front line. If it gets to Michigan Arizona, the 185 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: front lines are both the best two by far. 186 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: And because they both have three guys. 187 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: The Arizona has crebas Co O Pete first round picked 188 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 4: and Tobya Waco's the strongest player in college basketball. They 189 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: just dominate you in the and it's that's coaching now. 190 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,119 Speaker 4: It's always been coach Lloyd's styles since he got to Arizona. 191 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 4: And they put so much pressure on the rim that 192 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 4: you foul a lot teams. 193 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: Getting foul trouble. 194 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: We're up seven on them late and they just they 195 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: wore us down with the constant pressure. 196 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: And they got a senior point guard. Column. 197 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 4: You know, Bradley's is you know, tatting. Bradley's as good 198 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: as there is out there that's not on. You know, 199 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 4: he'll play in the NBA. But obviously the freshmen are 200 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 4: all the sexy guys for the draft. 201 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 3: Havn't that senior point guard? 202 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: And then a lot of he picked it to two 203 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 4: in Braden Burry's. 204 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: To me, they're they're right there with Michigan. 205 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. The I don't like to beat up on coaches 206 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: on the Fred Hoiberg had four guys on the floor. 207 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: It's rare, you know, Listen, I've watched great coaches have 208 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: ten men on the field in the NFL in big 209 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: third downs, like it happens. This chaos. 210 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm glad you said that. 211 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it just happens. What do you think 212 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: happened in your take on it? 213 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 4: I mean i'd be you know, since I liked the horses, 214 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: I'd be willing to bet you on this. Somebody they 215 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 4: say made a defensive substitution and two guys thought they 216 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: were out, not one. That's just my educated guess. They 217 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 4: made a defensive substitution and said, and you and I 218 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: are both bad defenders, Colin I was, I was an 219 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: offensive player. So and two guys thought they were both 220 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: out for defense probably And look, it's just what bothers 221 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 4: me about all of it. They were ninety eight percent 222 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 4: going to lose. Now, I mean it was I was 223 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: bald up three under a minute. I mean, you know so. 224 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: But obviously if it was, you know, you don't want 225 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: that to happen to anybody. And it's said because Fred 226 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: Fred Widberg did with the talent he had to me 227 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: in the league, he did it, and he's national Coach 228 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: of the Year. But Fred's been through worse things. I 229 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: mean Fred Fred's living on a pacemaker. So if anybody 230 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: has great perspective, it's definitely Fred. 231 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he's the best. 232 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 233 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: in Noone Eastern non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 234 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app Hi. 235 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: This is Jay. 236 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 5: I'm the producer of the Pauli and Toni Fusco Show. 237 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 5: Usually in these promos, they asked you to listen to 238 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 5: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen 239 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 5: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 240 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 5: have the dumbest takes on sports, imagicable. Don't listen to 241 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 5: the show so it can get camps. 242 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: Wha, what what the hell are you doing our studio? 243 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 6: Get him, Paul, Ignore that fool. Listen to the Paula 244 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 6: and Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 245 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 6: you get your podcast. He's still moving. 246 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: I didn't think this was controversial when you said it. 247 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: I defended him. I said, you know, UCLA is kind 248 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: of a fascinating school where it's in the nicest neighborhood 249 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: of any campus in America, but does not have a 250 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: ton of nil let us. It's a reality of it. 251 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: So let's go to the bite that made news here. 252 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: It is big. 253 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 5: Picture wise, third consecutive season not getting into the second 254 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 5: weekend of the tournament. 255 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: I know, different seasons, different reasons, but do you feel 256 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: like anything needs to change with the approach or after construction. 257 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: Or the way. I have no right now, I'm worried 258 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: about tonight. Consoling to gosh. 259 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: We'll stay here in the front row. 260 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: I'd like about five more million. There's my answer. 261 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 4: Jim Alexander from Orange County Register watching Tyler on the bench. 262 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: Not for. 263 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's let's be honest. These are discussions 264 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: every coach is having behind we'll be athletic director. Now 265 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: now it's I've said you don't have a big silter. 266 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: It's not who you are authentic guy? Was UCLA upset 267 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: with that? 268 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 3: Don't know? You know, look, look we have that. 269 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: I l some teams have absorbent and il ours has 270 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: improved from last year. My administration is working hard to 271 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: help so and everybody says, look, some people are just lucky, 272 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 4: you know, Colin Like people say it's the death of 273 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 4: the mid Major. Well not if you have a billionaire 274 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: donor that wants to win, right, you know, like any 275 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: anybody I have friends the coach in the Mid American Conference, 276 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: Acron Miami, the two best teams. 277 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: Guess who has the. 278 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: Best at best in I am Mia, Miglile an Acron. So, uh, 279 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: it all matters at the end of the day, but 280 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: it allows you to not be perfect. I talked to 281 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: Bob Myers as some uh as a basically like a Constabiera, 282 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 4: he played at UCLA. You know, he's the best GM 283 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: ever and how to work this era and like his 284 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: his analogy was loof You're never going to be perfect. 285 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: My every draft pick the Warriors made it, you know, 286 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: has not been perfect James wise. Maybe, but the more 287 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: resources you have, the more it allows you to make 288 00:14:59,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: a mistake. 289 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: Sure, and you know you mentioned Illinois. 290 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: They got great support, but they've also were smart enough 291 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: to sign Keaton Wagler, you know, and they beat Minnesota 292 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: and Colorado State to get him, and Murray State my 293 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: old schools, you know. So there's still diamonds in the rough. 294 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: You're still trying to put a team together. But there's 295 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: no coach that wouldn't like to have more and it 296 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: gives you a better chance. But we had great support. 297 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 4: There's this levels to it, and obviously the more you have. 298 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: Coach Roberts, my buddy here, Dave Roberts will tell you 299 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 4: it's a lot more fun when you have the best players. 300 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Mick cronin UCLA basketball coach, I imagine 301 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: you're I mean, is this a recruiting period? Can you 302 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: be on the phone now already? Have to wait? 303 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: Uh, we had and this is just us. 304 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: We got back Monday from the Philly from the NCAA 305 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: tournament and havn't still haven't. 306 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: Hung up the phone, my friend. Still enough, you got 307 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: to resign your own players. 308 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 4: And then as you've got to get ready for the portal, 309 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: and everybody in college is complaining about the way it is, 310 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: and it's a waste of time, my friend, but you 311 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: just got to adjust and deal with what's going on 312 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: now because as coaches, we have no say, so we're 313 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: not at the table what's going to go on, and 314 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: so to me, it's a complete waste of time even 315 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: talking about it. You better embrace what you need to 316 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: do right now. You're gonna get left behind. So we 317 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: just try to focus and we've been signing our own 318 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: players all week. 319 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: Nick, great Seni, you have a great weekend watching it. 320 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,119 Speaker 3: You're two, my friend. All the best. Maybe I'll see against. 321 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: All right, Mick cronin UCLA basketball coach. They beat Michigan State, 322 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: they be Illinois, they beat Purdue. They gave Arizona UCLA 323 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: as maybe the best West Coast probably the best West 324 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: Coast rivalry. So good stuff there. Jmack with the. 325 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: News, no news, this is the Herdline news. 326 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 7: Really good interview, Colin. And you know who's gonna be 327 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 7: a good interview soon. That's Caleb Williams in Chicago because 328 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 7: he just got in a huge controversy. Your guy in 329 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 7: your backyard there, Caleb Williams is now in a battle, 330 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 7: so to speak, over the nickname Iceman. Remember last season 331 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 7: in the playoffs, he was just so cold with all 332 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 7: those clutch plays. Ye, well, he wants to be known 333 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 7: as the Iceman. So he filed for the patent and 334 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 7: former Hall of Famer in the NBA, George Gervin, that 335 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 7: was his nickname right now. Caleb Williams probably not born 336 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 7: if I'd never heard of George Gervin before this. But 337 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 7: George Gervin said he was caught off guard when he 338 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 7: hadn't locked the name down. So three days after Caleb 339 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 7: filed for it, George Gervin filed for it. And now 340 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 7: there's a bit of a tug of war over the 341 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 7: nickname Iceman. You know, obviously, the late actor from Top Gun, 342 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 7: I'm sure he obviously had an iceman back in nineteen 343 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 7: eighty five. 344 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 6: I don't know when Gervin got it, maybe in the seventies. Colin. 345 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 7: This is a controversy, big one in Chicago. Who you 346 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 7: siding with, Harry. 347 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it's rising to a big controversy. Our 348 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: politics are controversial in Chicago. 349 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I mean, here's the thing. You can 350 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 7: build a lot of stuff around Iceman. If you are 351 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 7: Kayleb Williams, you're the Iceman. Now you could trademark it, 352 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 7: and you can have merch and you can do everything. 353 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 7: And he could show up at interviews at the podium 354 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 7: with his merch. Then people are buying it. It's another 355 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 7: revenue street. 356 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: Now. 357 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 6: I'm fine. I'm with that. 358 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 7: George Gervin was the Iceman in like the eighties. I 359 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 7: don't how can George Gervin profit off the name now? 360 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 6: I don't. I mean, I don't understand his argument. 361 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: Well, I think you know Jordan's jump Man, so that 362 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: that was obviously prominent. I don't know the legally is 363 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: around it. 364 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 7: I is just sour grape some Girvin being like, oh 365 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 7: he wants to be the Iceman. 366 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 6: I'm the Iceman. 367 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: Let me as somebody who formed a company four years ago. 368 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: Finding a name that's available hard you keep if you 369 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: ever start a company, good luck it took us six months, 370 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: so you know, we'll see what plays out. 371 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 7: I mean, people are saying that Caleb, Hey, be original, 372 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 7: get your own nickname. 373 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 6: Promise you he's never heard of George Durdat. 374 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 4: You know. 375 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 6: All right, let's move on to the next story, Colin. 376 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 7: That is the Pittsburgh Steelers and Aaron Rodgers. Now you 377 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 7: and I love good takes guys who are coming out 378 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 7: of the blue with stuff. How about this from former 379 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 7: Steelers quarterback Charlie Batch on why Aaron Rodgers is not 380 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 7: a done deal yet in Pittsburgh. 381 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 6: This is original and fresh. Take a listen. 382 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 8: When it comes to Aaron, this is the guy who 383 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 8: outplayed his contract. 384 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: And I will stand by this. 385 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 8: And there's not many people out there, may be the 386 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 8: only ones saying this at this particular point. This decision 387 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 8: is coming down the money. The Steelers would like him 388 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 8: to come back, yes, but it's not going to be 389 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 8: at the thirteen million dollar number. I'm sure Aaron at 390 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 8: some point I had not spoken to him, but I'm 391 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 8: sure his representative are wanting something closer to thirty. 392 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: Hope that somewhere you meet in the middle. 393 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. I think Charlie's right and I 394 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: think that I think Aaron did absolutely outplay his contract. 395 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: That I think Aaron making thirty two million a year 396 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: is reasonable. Absolutely whoa and then Baker Sam Darnold class 397 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: absolutely holy. 398 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 7: So I did not expect that take from you. I 399 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 7: thought this was great from Charlie bats. Here's the thing. 400 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers at that thirteen million dollar price helps Pittsburgh 401 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 7: be a playoff team. 402 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, Aaron Rodgers at thirty two. 403 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he gave you that. And then he outplayed his contract, 404 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: So he gave you that at thirteen. Okay, he made 405 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: the offense, which was atrocious in the red zone excellent. 406 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: The team had fewer turnovers, it was a smarter offense 407 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: due to Aaron. Aaron has no obligation to give you 408 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: multiple years, and it's not even team friendly. They basically 409 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: got him for free. 410 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, why because he's stunk with the Jets. 411 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: He's there now, he doesn't stink. 412 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 6: Well he had one good year. 413 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Well sorry, who's got the leverage? 414 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 7: So here's my counterard, here's my counter erin thank you 415 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 7: for playing on thirteen mil. That was awesome. You helped 416 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 7: us get to the playoffs by taking a low contract. 417 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 7: Hey man, do you want to win again? Do you 418 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 7: want to try to win again? We'll let it all seen. 419 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: I'll say there's a difference between a small number and 420 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: a ridiculous number. Thirty is still incredibly team friendly. Thirteen 421 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: is giving it away. 422 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 6: Fine, what about twenty erin? Will you do twelve for twenty? 423 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 6: How about twenty with incentives? 424 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: How about twenty eight with incentives that are easy to 425 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: reach and get to thirty three? 426 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 6: Fine? 427 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 7: How about going to your career? Your last pass was 428 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 7: a pick six. I enjoy the irrelevance. 429 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: Through three hundred million dollars in the bank Hall of Famer. 430 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: In your last year, you were darn good. 431 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know this is a guy who craves the spotlight. 432 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 7: He's going on podcasts talking about Fauci and all this 433 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 7: political nonsense. 434 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: Hey man, play football, lock in, come play, Come. 435 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 7: Play your final year. Let's make a run play for 436 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 7: eighteen mil. Sacrifice Aaron Rodgers, that's who you. 437 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 6: Are, do it you in? That's a firm not from Calherd. 438 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 7: All right, final story, Let's go back to the UFL 439 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 7: season kicks off tonight Birmingham Stallions versus Louisvio Kings, eight 440 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 7: Eastern on Fox tomorrow the Gamblers take on the Renegades. 441 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 7: We had Renegade's head coach Rick Neuheisel on the show 442 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 7: earlier today about why he loves the UFL. 443 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 9: This is the purest form of football. You were just 444 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 9: talking about, nil. These kids are on scholarship. Everybody makes 445 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 9: the same Everybody just wants one more chance to play. 446 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 9: And I promise you, having been on the practice field 447 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 9: for now the last five weeks, there's plenty of guys 448 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 9: that can play on Sundays. 449 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, forty six guys in the UFL were on NFL 450 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: rosters at some point last year, So I don't think 451 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: of any question. The quality of football had gotten better 452 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: every year, for sure. Totally agree jmck with the news. 453 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping that. 454 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: The herd Line News Carl's Headlines today. 455 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: Next, be sure to catch live editions of the weekdays 456 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: in noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 457 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 458 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Well, our very own professor of bracketology is here. J 459 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: mack loves his college basketball. Let's find out who's going 460 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: to advance before the buzzer sounds. We like to call 461 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: it Jmack Tomorrow's headlines today. All right, Jmack, what's the 462 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: headline for the lock of the Sweet sixteen? 463 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 7: There's a big one tonight, Colin is great game. Two 464 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 7: legendary coaches. Did you know Dan Hurley has won his 465 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 7: last fourteen twenty games by double digits. The headline for 466 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 7: Yukon and Michigan will be leash we forget Husky's still 467 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 7: best in show. I didn't like either of these teams 468 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 7: coming into the tournament, but Yukon is starting to look 469 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 7: pretty good. I was surprised they pulled away from UCLA 470 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 7: with the nice win. Alex Caravan is one of these 471 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 7: legendary players, kind of like not quite Christian Latner, but 472 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 7: he's been around for many years. 473 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 6: Really good player at a great game against Ucla. 474 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 7: They're getting healthier, and I just don't like this Michigan 475 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 7: State offense. I know is theo's a big watcher. We 476 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 7: talk about them a lot, Colin, I see them struggling here. 477 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 7: These two teams, by the way, played an exhibition game. 478 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 7: That's how in the weeds I am. 479 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 6: It was ugly. 480 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 7: They were like fifty five fouls and forty baskets and 481 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 7: Yukon prevailed. I see this as like a first to 482 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 7: sixty wins. I think Mick Cronin said it is going 483 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 7: to be like a bring bring your straight jacket, Like 484 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 7: this is going to be a really really tough, physical game. 485 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 6: So I'll go Yukon in a close one. 486 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 487 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: Same, I feel the same. Tomorrow's headlines today, watch the 488 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: headline for the South Region. 489 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 6: Man, this Iowa team, I love them, Colin. 490 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 7: They have been extremely profitable in the tournament, but they're 491 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 7: going up against a juggernaut. 492 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 6: The headline on Saturday in the. 493 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 7: Elite eight, will me orange, you glad Eli and I 494 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 7: squeeze the pulp from opponents. I'm going Illinois. I got 495 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 7: some buddies watching who are going to be ticked off. 496 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 7: There's just too many weapons on this team, Colin. I mean, 497 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 7: I think it was Bill rad After who had the 498 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 7: great call, take me to the Balkans after one of 499 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 7: these dunks by one of these Euros. They've got so 500 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 7: many dudes, it's unbelievable. And by the way, Keaton Woggler 501 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 7: entered his name in that top five for the draft. 502 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 6: Did you see him last night? Number twenty three? 503 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 7: Like a long six to six guard can handle Houston 504 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 7: is like, they're gonna pressure the hell. 505 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 6: Out of you. 506 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 7: He was undaunted and as shaky first half and adjusted 507 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 7: second half was huge. I think Mick Cronin said like 508 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 7: he was a Murray State recruit and he was like going, 509 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 7: like Minnesota was after him. He goes to Illinois, he 510 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 7: could be a top five pick. He's really lethal. They 511 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 7: got Stoyokovica's son, who I liked, six seven foot one twins. 512 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 7: I mean, Colin, this team's loaded Illinois needs. They're gonna 513 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 7: they could win the title. 514 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: Honestly, tomorrow's headlines today, what's the headline gonna be in 515 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: the Midwest region? 516 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, this is a controversial team simply because 517 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 7: that's how things work in the NCAA tournament. When you're popular, 518 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 7: they give you controversy. 519 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: The headline for the. 520 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 6: Midwest region will be Dust. 521 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 7: Gets the win. All we know is Dust gets the win. Colin, 522 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 7: I am my singing hopefully trying to impress you. Yes, 523 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 7: I like I like them for sure. The Michigan Wolverines. 524 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 7: How can you not love to seem, Colin? I mean, 525 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 7: I mean they were number one most of the season, 526 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 7: absolute juggernaut. 527 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 6: Where's the weakness? You tell me where they're weak. 528 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: No, I mean it's it's their front line is just 529 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: overwhelms college teams. 530 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, when you got a seven foot three center and 531 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 7: you got Lendeborg who's like a wing, somebody said he 532 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 7: his NBA comp is like Obi Toppin. 533 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I think he's a better 534 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: player than Obi top. 535 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 6: He's a more well rounded player. 536 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: He can hit threes. He's ad Obie was good at Dayton. 537 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: He was a good player. Lennenberg's a different level play. 538 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a little more well rounded coming out of college. 539 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 7: Michigan is just deep, strong, fast. They can play at 540 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 7: any pace. So they'll play the winner of Iowa State Tennessee. 541 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 6: And you know Iowa State's best players down don't love them. 542 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 6: So I think Michigan prevails. 543 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, How about the headline for the West Region? 544 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, they keep Everybody keeps trying to put this coach 545 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 7: over to North Carolina, and you and I are in lockstep, 546 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 7: like why would he leave the headline for the West 547 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 7: And the NCAA tournament will be But for real, this time, 548 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 7: Cats deserve a round of a pause. Yes, Arizona, how 549 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 7: good is this team? Man, I said they had four 550 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 7: first round picks last week, and your audience got so 551 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 7: angry at me. Now people watch him drop one hundred 552 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 7: and nine on Arkansas. Oh oh okay, this team is loaded, 553 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 7: co Opete. Last night, I felt like they were dunking 554 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 7: anything near the rim. Some of that's Arkansas doesn't protect 555 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 7: the rim at all, but their guards are incredible. 556 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 6: I just I don't see who's stopping this team. I 557 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 6: know Purdue. 558 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 7: Some numbers say that Purdue should be able to hang 559 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 7: with them, but everything Purdue does, Arizona does better. 560 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a great matchup for Purdue, and 561 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: I think Matt Painter's terrific, but I think there's limitations 562 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: on personnel. I think it could get ugly. 563 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 7: And you saw Purdue struggle with the Texas athleticism. They 564 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 7: couldn't contain the guards off the dribble. Arizona's got two 565 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 7: pros in the back court, so I know, you know. 566 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 7: Braden Smith is the all time assist leader in college basketball, 567 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 7: great career, the kid Lawyer is gunning from three. I 568 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 7: just think Arizona's gonna be too much. I may bet 569 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 7: them with the lines up to six, six and a 570 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 7: half already. 571 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: I don't know tomorrow's headlines today. Now let's finish it off. 572 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: What do you make of the East Region? 573 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 7: Well, this is a big game. Everybody loves to hate Duke. 574 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 7: Can they prevail? The headline for the East Region tonight 575 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 7: will be you Booze, you don't lose. I'm going with 576 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 7: Carlo Boozer's twins. I think they prevail tonight against Saint John's. Now, Colin, 577 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 7: this should be, on paper, a great game. Saint John's 578 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 7: has a lot of pressure, and Duke's got a freshman 579 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 7: point guard boozer Son. There is a report in the 580 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 7: last thirty minutes from a sideline reporter at CBS that 581 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 7: Caleb Foster is going to be available tonight, three weeks 582 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 7: after surgery on his foot, so he could I don't 583 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 7: know if he's going to start, but he could play, 584 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 7: which would help alleviate some of that pressure. Caleb Foster 585 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 7: really solid player in the backcourt, Smart and Eddie. I 586 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 7: just think Duke's a better offensive team. I think they 587 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 7: contain Saint John's and I remember Saint John's is here 588 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 7: because they beat a bad Kansas team with a career 589 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 7: high six threes from a guy who doesn't make threes. 590 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 6: Okay, that's what it took. 591 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 7: To get by Kansas and a buzzer shot from a 592 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 7: kid who had not scored a basket all games. 593 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 6: So I'm going with Duke over the Johnnies tonight. 594 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tap my head. It's time for a challenge. 595 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the I'm going to challenge Duke over 596 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: Saint John's with our new herd automatic bad take system, 597 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: bad take system. I love this, I don't love I'm 598 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: going to take Saint John's in the points. 599 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 7: So that's a good bet by you. I like the 600 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 7: bad take system. Are we gonna employ this like all 601 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 7: the time now? 602 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just whenever you have a take, it's outside. 603 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 6: It's not just me. I mean what coaches. I mean, 604 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 6: we could do this for do you can't go for it. 605 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: Duke's better, but it's just potato in these games. Keeps 606 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: it close and the pressure's all I mean, yeah, I 607 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: mean it's house money. I mean the pressure is all 608 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: on Duke. They're supposed to win it. I'm telling you 609 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: it between if that kid's healthy, Duke Arizona, Michigan, those 610 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: are and I'll say this, go look at who you. 611 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: Yukon had one stinker against Marquette, then they lost to Arizona. 612 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: Saint John's Yeah, I think Creighton beat him once. Would 613 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: you be shocked if Yukon won it? No, wait, beat 614 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: Duke or won the whole title. They're not winning the title. 615 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: You could have stop winning the championship. They could take 616 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: down Duke. But by the way, to go back to 617 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: the challenge, I really like that Colin. A coach decides 618 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: to kick the field goal instead of go for a 619 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: fourth down, you could throw up your challenge. 620 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 6: Terrible take, terrible decision. 621 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna take I don't know Michigan's winning 622 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: Yukon favored. I take Iowa State Illinois over I kind 623 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: of feel like it gets easier now because I feel 624 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: like the top three or four, I don't think there's 625 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: a big gap between a lot of teams. I think Michigan, 626 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: Arizona there's a gap Illinois. The problem is Iowa just 627 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: can't keep up. I mean, Illinois is gonna score seventy. 628 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 6: Who's going to control the pace in that one. 629 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 7: But I will say if Iowa somehow gets to the 630 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 7: final four and they played Duke Colin, that has shades 631 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 7: of Gordon Hayward all over again, from Butler making the 632 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 7: run and Duke can slow it down or Iowa can 633 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 7: slow down Duke. 634 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 6: I do believe you're onto something. 635 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 7: If those three ones advance Duke Arizona, Michigan, that's huge 636 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 7: for the TV audience, the interest nationwide. 637 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 6: And then you've got Iowa bringing up the heartland. 638 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 7: Remember Caitlin Clark got to the final four and the 639 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 7: ratings were off the charts. Iowa doesn't have a Caitlin Clark, 640 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 7: but everybody likes his kid. Bennett starts. Ben McCollum the coach. Yeah, 641 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 7: this is just a great tournament. 642 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: All right, we had a good week. I'll be watching tonight. 643 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: You'll be watching tonight. Michigan State. Yukon's great. Hey, Yukon. 644 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: Yukon did the UCLA because UCLA beat Michigan State this 645 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: year in Purdue and Illinois and then Yukon took them apart. 646 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: Is Yukon just puts pressure on you and UCLA's guards 647 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: couldn't hit shots and it got ugly fast. Yukon has 648 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: been If I said to you best college basketball program 649 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: in America today, is it not Yukon. 650 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 6: Look they got two titles in the last three years. 651 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, but it's just I mean, it's so interesting. 652 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: They have the best women's program. And I'm gonna say 653 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: this for about the third different time in my life. 654 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: I think Yukon has both the best men's and women's program. 655 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's in stores, Connecticut, that's crazy. 656 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 7: Well, they don't care about their football team, so they 657 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 7: invest everything into basketball, which is smart. Even if you 658 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 7: invested in the football team, they're not going to. 659 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: Go anywhere, right, It's just amazing. It's like Nebraska dominating 660 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: football in the mid nineties. Of all the places in 661 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: the country, Yukon has the best men's and women's program. 662 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: Now again, they may have the best two coaches. You know, 663 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: Gino and Dan. You're not gonna beat that much. All Right, 664 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: we're done. Have a great weekend. Third