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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: I hope they're wearing white because we look like we

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Speaker 3: just came from a white party here with all the

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Speaker 3: three of us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, tight white.

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Speaker 5: I don't have that kind of money.

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Speaker 2: We just copied in from the Hampton.

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Speaker 5: I now believe that Cold Strange is a surprise cup candidate.

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Speaker 2: I think you could trade them for a second.

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Speaker 6: Is there any trade possibility?

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Speaker 7: Is there any value in these two players?

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Speaker 2: I think you package them up for a first But

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Speaker 2: in this day, like mixing the pass every once in

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Speaker 2: a while, just to throw it off, you know, to.

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Speaker 5: Get Jay and Poul kick touch.

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Speaker 8: There's no receivers all the first.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking.

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Speaker 8: I was thinking about that name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were all worried.

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Speaker 9: If you ask me if it's about a great coach

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Speaker 9: with a bad quarterback or a bad coach with a

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Speaker 9: great quarterback, I'll take the latter every single time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can see that.

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Speaker 10: You.

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Speaker 4: Part of the problem with argument Paul is that he's

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Speaker 4: done all these times.

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Speaker 3: No, and you've also done all of them, and so

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Speaker 3: you started Claire out, which is like, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna start off with level one, Paul, if you.

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Speaker 5: Will not even admit that that was why they got

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Speaker 5: rid of them, No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: You're not who you think you are. See you later, Okay.

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Speaker 5: I would suggest you do a little bit more research.

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Speaker 5: I'm not guessing on this.

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Speaker 1: Okay the way, all right, I know this is Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: Oh, welcome to pay sun Filtered. We are alive from

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Speaker 2: ji Lette Stadium.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 5: You get a little extra time to figure that one out.

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Speaker 6: Did you?

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Speaker 2: I'm all confused because into each other. All I know

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Speaker 2: is that tomorrow is the joint practice. Correct, That's the

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Speaker 2: most important news.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: These guys are just off the practice field, Paul evan

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Speaker 2: deuce where they had a walkthrough today to get ready

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Speaker 2: for tomorrow's joint practice. So they kind of worked on

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Speaker 2: what they're going to actually do tomorrow. In some ways,

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Speaker 2: I know that they know we're told that we can

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Speaker 2: only film certain periods. Today was even more abbreviated, just

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Speaker 2: the first two periods they don't want anything else. So

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Speaker 2: they are going to be using some of the plays

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Speaker 2: that they did today probably tomorrow against the Commanders, so

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Speaker 2: that'll be interesting. And right off the bat, I want

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Speaker 2: to let everyone know that we will be live from

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Speaker 2: high above the practice fields starting at nine forty five

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Speaker 2: tomorrow with Mike Rabel's press conference and then we'll go

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Speaker 2: right into practice and we'll give you as much a

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Speaker 2: practice as we're allowed to film. So exciting day. Joint practices.

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Speaker 2: Are looking forward to it increasingly important in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: They are, I mean chance to also see another team.

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Speaker 3: I think that's always fun for me to get a

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Speaker 3: chance to look at young player like Jayden Aiels.

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Speaker 4: Really fun to get to see him.

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Speaker 5: In personal PA, we always focus on the personnel, and

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Speaker 5: I think that's important, and Daniels is important. But like

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Speaker 5: just listening to Peppers a little bit, your guy, Mike,

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Speaker 5: you know another scheme too, because now you're starting to

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Speaker 5: watch the offense and defense go against each other. And

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Speaker 5: we've heard comments Mike Fred and I had Michael Winnu

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Speaker 5: they know the scheme, but the even your cadence and

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Speaker 5: everything about it. So I make. It's more of a

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Speaker 12: Ye yeah, just with the you know, there's no film

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Speaker 12: you can put stuff on film in terms of plays

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Speaker 12: like Fred was talking about the plays that they're going

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Speaker 12: in the preseason. If you put that on a preseason tape,

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Speaker 12: now the whole league can see this is your offense,

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Speaker 12: this is what you're doing. So they almost put more

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Speaker 12: you know, the full gamut tomorrow. I would expect from

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Speaker 8: So it'd be good to see.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday the Patriots had practice and it was a normal

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Speaker 2: IMPADS practice and from what I saw. I think it

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Speaker 2: Friday's kind of ify practice. If people don't know, they

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Speaker 2: practices so far. Guys were mixed and match. So was

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Speaker 2: it a good, you know, indication of where the offense is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, But yesterday they had a pretty darn

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Speaker 4: I mean, I might push back on a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Fred I thought they started I thought they started off

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Speaker 4: He's looked in control.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was excellent in the first seven on

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Speaker 3: my big thing with Drake this year is he a killer.

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Speaker 3: So far these last two practices that have been competitive

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Speaker 4: I keep trying to call them the other name, the

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Speaker 4: Commanders Tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 12: not it's definitely advantage defense down there. And I don't

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Speaker 12: But I would agree in general, I thought once they

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Speaker 2: You think Arcus Jones.

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Speaker 3: You're probably not going to get as much help schematically

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Speaker 3: They're going to try to finish strong, and really, you know,

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Speaker 3: Evan laid it all out. They'll try to break out

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Speaker 12: to just run the teams that that's really what you

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Speaker 12: Hopefully it's a moving pocket, like there's some sort of

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Speaker 12: just run. You're in the gun and you're just running

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Speaker 12: it's tight, like it's tight down there to make throws

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Speaker 12: and make it like you guys always talk about those.

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Speaker 8: Belichick practices for four or five days, they'd.

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Speaker 12: Always be in the red zone and a lot of

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Speaker 3: You know, it's sometimes he comes late and he just practices.

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Speaker 2: Friday's practice, Kendrick Bourne got banged.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, injuries are going to happen. They're

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Speaker 3: I just like that the rookies have generally stayed healthy.

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Speaker 12: I guess, like I'm almost looking forward to Friday night

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was good. He'll talk today for Mike and I.

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Speaker 12: I just the rookie should play because the game tape

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Speaker 2: We'll have that live on Patriots dot com, so you

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah then we'll I guess we'll go right into

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Speaker 4: We'll break it all down. So yeah, so long in.

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Speaker 8: I hope you have a long, you know, breakdown of

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Speaker 4: You know, all the specifics to wait.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and no matter you know, no matter what it

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Speaker 2: you should have done this, he should have been doing that,

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Speaker 15: It's got to look like I oh, so, I know, Well,

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Speaker 12: I just can't help but think of Rocky three and

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Speaker 3: And you know, just like that, like Peyton Manning is

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Speaker 3: real man, the old man got no heart, right, or

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Speaker 3: we're gonna some night be out here and Brady's going

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's upset about something.

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Speaker 2: It always comes back to movies, all right, that he's

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Speaker 4: I mean they're not directly to the statue. Are stairs there?

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Speaker 4: You can get the whole Rocky What.

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Speaker 2: Would what would Tom? Well? Tom has the jay Z song, right,

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Speaker 2: we can't hum it or else we'll be soon back.

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Speaker 2: Never do that, Okay, So what else are we talking

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Speaker 3: I feel like you get to the point right now

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Speaker 4: And you know, then you get to this point, you're

442
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Speaker 4: like joint practices now preseason.

443
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Speaker 3: Games, like we want to see some actual tackling, some

444
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Speaker 3: real football, and I think these.

445
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Speaker 4: Are where you really learn the most, so that they

446
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Speaker 4: feel like these first two weeks you're kind of set

447
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Speaker 4: in the states. We see actual tackling, not in the

448
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Speaker 4: joint practice, but you know.

449
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Speaker 3: Friday night will in the game, I think, and then

450
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Speaker 3: you'll see hopefully, but you know, since of the run

451
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Speaker 3: game a little bit better, a little bit more with

452
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Speaker 3: some of these offensive linemen and where there are so

453
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Speaker 3: many questions on.

454
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Speaker 4: The offensive line, I just think, you know, getting to see.

455
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Speaker 3: Marcus Bryant, trade Jacobs, really get some reps out there

456
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Speaker 3: as Trade Jacobs made any strides might be a little

457
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Speaker 3: bit too early on Bandarian Low. He just came back

458
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Speaker 3: this week, might be able to asking a lot for

459
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Speaker 3: him to hop into a game. But just if any

460
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Speaker 3: of these guys Leyden Robinson really hasn't done much in camp,

461
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Speaker 3: can he I mean, he's got a real big opportunity

462
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Speaker 3: right now with two of these kind of guards above him.

463
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Speaker 4: So we'll see somebody pops once once the lights come on.

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Speaker 2: Next week looking ahead, they'll be off to Minnesota to

465
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Speaker 2: have joint practices with the Vikings. So two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be two practices, which not kind of

467
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Speaker 4: a little bit of a throwback. I guess at this

468
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Speaker 4: point team most teams going to just one joint practice. Yep,

469
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Speaker 4: So I guess they trust kevital call was.

470
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Speaker 2: A recent move, I guess for various reasons, but one

471
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Speaker 2: of them was like things would boil up and yeah

472
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Speaker 2: flow over them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, that second day at Green Bay Camp, I mean

475
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Speaker 3: I was with the defense. It was like seven fights

476
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Speaker 3: in the first nine snaps.

477
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Speaker 12: There was still just feel like once you know, Washington

478
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Speaker 12: to Boston is not a bad fight, but once you

479
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Speaker 12: start to stretch it, like, if you're not going to

480
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Speaker 12: have two practices, was it would it really be worth

481
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Speaker 12: bringing everybody to Minnesota?

482
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Speaker 8: Yeah for one practice? Like point probably not.

483
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Speaker 12: But I just like bigger picture thought when I was

484
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Speaker 12: driving in today about the preseason, like how many how

485
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Speaker 12: much longer are we going to do? Three of these

486
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Speaker 12: and like like how little can we do? Like what's

487
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Speaker 12: the number that we can possibly get to that feels

488
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Speaker 12: like these aren't a waste of time.

489
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Speaker 2: It'll be down to two within two years.

490
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Speaker 12: Because two feels like, Okay, you want to give the

491
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Speaker 12: back end of the roster guys a chance to compete,

492
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Speaker 12: and I get I and also put film out there

493
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Speaker 12: for the other thirty one teams and like all that

494
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Speaker 12: good stuff. But to do his point, like we pretty

495
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Speaker 12: much know who the team is at this point, Like

496
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Speaker 12: there's four or five spots that I think are up

497
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Speaker 12: for grabs that people are competing for with the Patriots,

498
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Speaker 12: but you know who the starting you know, eleven are

499
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Speaker 12: on both sides. You know, like the twenty twenty five

500
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Speaker 12: guys are that are going to contribute? Like, can we

501
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Speaker 12: just move this a lot a little bit faster because

502
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Speaker 12: I think these preseason games are.

503
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Speaker 2: I just you know, I understand that the starters don't

504
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Speaker 2: play a lot in the preseason, but they play a little.

505
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Speaker 2: And I think you need to have some real tackling

506
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Speaker 2: under your belt before you get into a real game.

507
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Speaker 2: So you don't tackle and practice anymore, so you have

508
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Speaker 2: to have some ability to get your body tackling.

509
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Speaker 4: Yeah too.

510
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the fact that we've been having the same conversation

511
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Speaker 5: for twenty five years, I know. And they don't tackle

512
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Speaker 5: in the preseason and at the beginning of the season,

513
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Speaker 5: the football is a little sloppy, right, and then they

514
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Speaker 5: get on with it, right, it's not going to change,

515
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Speaker 5: But they don't play. The starters don't play.

516
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Speaker 2: People complain that the September football sucks.

517
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Speaker 5: No, I know, but then it's not going to change.

518
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they could, but.

519
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Speaker 5: The starters don't play. They don't want to risk them

520
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Speaker 5: getting hurt in preseason games. It's bad enough that they're

521
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Speaker 5: going to get hurt in the regular games. And they

522
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Speaker 5: just don't play a lot. And the more established you, why,

523
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Speaker 5: the less you play.

524
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Speaker 12: And as you should, like I don't blame any teams

525
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Speaker 12: for not like if like, if I'm the Patriots, I'm

526
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Speaker 12: not playing any of my guys because we have these

527
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Speaker 12: joint practices, Like there's no reason to risk it in

528
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Speaker 12: the regular season. In the preseason games when you have

529
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Speaker 12: three joint practices coming up over the next two weeks, Like.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't risk it either.

531
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Speaker 12: But it's it's just not a good product, Like it's

532
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Speaker 12: not like the preseason games. It's aren't good for the fans,

533
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Speaker 12: it's not good for the players, Like, just get on

534
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Speaker 12: with it, like two preseason games back.

535
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Speaker 2: But I don't know, can you make the case that

536
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Speaker 2: by not conditioning your body to tackle in the preseason

537
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Speaker 2: that you're more susceptible to injury once the season starts,

538
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Speaker 2: like for a guy like a linebacker or you know,

539
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Speaker 2: a safety.

540
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Speaker 5: You can make that, make any argument you want, but

541
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Speaker 5: it's just not going to change. Like, I mean, you can't.

542
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Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think that that's silly what

543
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Speaker 5: you just said that you could make that argument easily. So,

544
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Speaker 5: but it's not going to change. That's my only point.

545
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Speaker 5: I'm not telling you that I'm pro or against for

546
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Speaker 5: again as you like to say.

547
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Speaker 3: You're saying that because you're not going back to telling

548
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Speaker 3: the players they got to start being more physical again once.

549
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Speaker 5: You leationship is sick, I just don't think it's going

550
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Speaker 5: to happen.

551
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Speaker 2: But but but here's the thing. So this reduction of

552
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Speaker 2: the physicality in practice came about for two reasons. One,

553
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Speaker 2: you know the concussion issue, but also it was a

554
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Speaker 2: concession in the CBA. Right, Well, oh, we're not going

555
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: to give you more money that you're looking for, But

556
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Speaker 2: we'll make we'll make the off season a little bit

557
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Speaker 2: less physical. I'll bet you if you pulled all the players,

558
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Speaker 2: they take the money over the physical less physicality, you know.

559
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

560
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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you want to say, my choice is to

561
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Speaker 5: make more money or be more physical in practice, they'll

562
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Speaker 5: take the more money. Absolutely.

563
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So who knows what the lack.

564
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Speaker 5: Of tackling at practice. I don't remember the last time

565
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Speaker 5: I saw any sort of consistent tackling at practice. I

566
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Speaker 5: can't even remember. I don't remember it ever a little

567
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Speaker 5: bit last summer they did. They did, I'm just talking

568
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Speaker 5: about on a consistent basis at practice. I don't ever

569
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Speaker 5: remember it. At a Bill Belichick training camp. I saw

570
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Speaker 5: a little of it with Pete Carroll, but not very much.

571
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Speaker 5: Probably less than they was for Mayo last year. Yeah,

572
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Speaker 5: you'd see some live goal line with Belichick. That's it.

573
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Speaker 5: So I don't think that it's realistic to say, well,

574
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Speaker 5: they should go back to more more physical practices in

575
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Speaker 5: training camp, because whether you think they should or not,

576
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Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to happen. So it's kind

577
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Speaker 5: of a moot point.

578
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not like what they do live tackling a

579
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Speaker 8: lot of them.

580
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Speaker 12: Yeah, but like that's because they have like one hundred

581
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Speaker 12: and fifty players on the roster and they have to

582
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Speaker 12: like figure it out right, and you know, somebody the

583
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Speaker 12: fifth string defensive end gets hurt. It's like not that

584
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Speaker 12: big of a deal. But like I feel like I'm

585
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Speaker 12: not saying abolished preseason. I just think there doesn't need

586
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Speaker 12: to be more than two. Yeah, Like you have to

587
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Speaker 12: dress rehearsal opportunities, whether to play your starters or to

588
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Speaker 12: audition if you're going out for you know, a roster

589
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 12: spot at the back end of the roster or a

590
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Speaker 12: roll or something like that, you have two opportunities you have.

591
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Speaker 12: Every team does joint practices now, it feels like most years,

592
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Speaker 12: so you're gonna have those opportunities as well.

593
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Speaker 8: It just feels like it's enough.

594
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Speaker 3: I wonder too, if there's an angle with just the

595
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Speaker 3: coaching staff needing preseason games to all get on the

596
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Speaker 3: same page and to work, and it's is it more

597
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Speaker 3: than just about getting the players ready, it's also about

598
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Speaker 3: getting the coaching staff ready.

599
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you need those games that the actual

600
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Speaker 2: scenarios that come up within a game.

601
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Speaker 3: How's the communication going, who's on the headsets, all that

602
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Speaker 3: kind of stuff. I mean, I'm sure it could all

603
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Speaker 3: be figured out, but I would guess that some of

604
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Speaker 3: the coaching staff probably likes I.

605
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Speaker 5: Think that's why they One of the reasons why they

606
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Speaker 5: like to do joint practices is they can manufacture those

607
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Speaker 5: and don't come up in the games.

608
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Speaker 2: And to take it even a step further, do the

609
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Speaker 2: stadiums need to practice runs or for preseason games?

610
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Speaker 4: You know, beverage, get it, get it geared up?

611
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: Yah, all the support staff, security, ticket takers. You need

612
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: those live rehearsals, if you will, to get ready for

613
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Speaker 2: you know, the real games.

614
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

615
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Speaker 12: So yeah, I'm not trying to take away your screen time,

616
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Speaker 12: bly you know, and the Bob's discount for.

617
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean obviously you don't know. I'm I'm like,

618
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Speaker 5: I'm really happy to be part of the broadcast and whatnot.

619
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Speaker 5: But I recognize them for what they are. I mean,

620
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Speaker 5: it's it's minutia that is just not all that interesting

621
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Speaker 5: to most of the fans. Now, there's some diehards that

622
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Speaker 5: are interested in the you know, the bottom twenty of

623
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Speaker 5: the roster from seventy to ninety you know how those

624
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Speaker 5: guys look who's on the practice squad. Yeah, but that's

625
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Speaker 5: that's a niche, I'll get it.

626
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Speaker 2: Of the big four sports, which do you think exhibition

627
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Speaker 2: games are most important?

628
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Speaker 5: Probably baseball, I was going to say, because you have

629
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Speaker 5: to actually play the game to be especially pitching to

630
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Speaker 5: the even the repetition of hitting. Yeah, that's you know,

631
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Speaker 5: there's a reason why. I mean, I know you guys

632
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 5: don't want to talk about you know Raffi. Yeah, there's

633
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 5: the reason why he struck out fifteen of his first

634
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 5: nineteen at bats. He didn't do anything all spring.

635
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, Or like why guys go on rehab assignments

636
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 12: when they're coming off injuries and they go to the

637
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 12: miners to cover a couple of weeks to get their

638
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Speaker 12: rhythm back at baseball?

639
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Speaker 2: All right? Eighty five to five Pats five hundred is

640
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Speaker 2: the hotline podcast at Patriots dot How was.

641
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Speaker 5: PP two without the benefit of practice?

642
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Speaker 4: No, I was thinking hockey's one where you just need practice.

643
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Speaker 3: You just got to get your hands and feet and sync.

644
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: But playing in actual games one or.

645
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Speaker 2: Two scrimmages podcasts at Patriots dot com address, you know,

646
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Speaker 2: that was rude.

647
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

648
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Speaker 5: Sorry, I get my shot at.

649
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Speaker 3: I'm gett Albert Breer got scolded by Brett Toucher the

650
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Speaker 3: other day and he spoke over one of his video

651
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Speaker 3: just getting upset.

652
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Speaker 2: Called him a moron. Did he really? Oh yeah, he

653
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Speaker 2: was mad. Wow. Well, they have this complicated giveaway and

654
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Speaker 2: I won't mention like the type of car it is

655
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Speaker 2: or who's giving it away, but there's several steps you

656
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Speaker 2: have to do in order to qualify. And so he's

657
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Speaker 2: trying to lay out these steps for the listeners, and

658
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Speaker 2: and Breer chimes in with some research that he did,

659
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Speaker 2: you know while on the break, So what.

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Speaker 1: Are you doing?

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Speaker 6: It was?

662
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Speaker 2: It was funny, Actually he was good.

663
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Speaker 4: Rad Fred's reads again your your reads?

664
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Speaker 5: That's funny. No, I was definitely in the wrong there.

665
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Speaker 2: I was guilty of Sorry. All right, let's go to

666
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Speaker 2: the phones. We'll see what people have to say. Uh,

667
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: Nate and Connecticut's first one?

668
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Speaker 16: Up?

669
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Speaker 2: What's up?

670
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Speaker 1: Nate?

671
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Speaker 2: Not we're just listening to you, that's what's up?

672
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Speaker 17: Oh yeah, that's true.

673
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Speaker 6: Uh So my question for you guys is about Javon Baker.

674
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Speaker 6: Based on what I've heard, he had a really good

675
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Speaker 6: practice yesterday, calling in a couple of touchdowns and hassling

676
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 6: good catches. What have you guys been out of him

677
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 6: so far within these past training camps. Has he been

678
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Speaker 6: froster worthy would you say? Or is he still trying

679
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Speaker 6: to work his way up so you know, getting their

680
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Speaker 6: respect and getting his name up in the list, and yeah,

681
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Speaker 6: you guys think, okay.

682
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Speaker 3: Thanks Nate say flashes, I mean flashes of of what

683
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: he does, which is an acrobatic nature to his game.

684
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: He moves different, He's got an explosiveness to him that

685
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Speaker 3: maybe the other guys don't necessarily have.

686
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Speaker 4: But it's just consistency for me. And that's as soon as.

687
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Speaker 3: We grouped up yesterday at the end of practice, it

688
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: was yeah, he had three straight touchdown catches and sevens.

689
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Speaker 3: He had another grab and eleven's and then we got

690
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Speaker 3: down when things got a little tighter and looked like

691
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: he had another one and it got punched out pretty quick.

692
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: So you know, had he held on too that, I

693
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Speaker 3: would say he's really starting to keep that momentum. That

694
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Speaker 3: one play maybe downgraded my overall impression of him, but

695
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Speaker 3: there's no question he's the one making the push over

696
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Speaker 3: Jaln polkinefting chis right.

697
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: Now for that maybe last one or two receiver spots.

698
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I feel like I've given this takes seven times

699
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Speaker 12: already on Javon Baker. But I just feel like the

700
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Speaker 12: two things, Like one, I can't quit what I thought

701
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Speaker 12: of him in the draft, and I was pretty high

702
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Speaker 12: on him going into that draft and thought it was

703
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Speaker 12: a pretty good pick.

704
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Speaker 8: I know there was things.

705
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Speaker 12: Off the field or with character stuff that had him

706
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Speaker 12: fall to the fourth round, but to get a talent

707
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Speaker 12: like that at one hundred and ten overall felt like

708
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Speaker 12: a pretty good pick at the time. And I just

709
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Speaker 12: still see the raw talent with him that is like

710
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Speaker 12: you were saying, dude, it's kind of unique in that room,

711
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Speaker 12: Like there's not a lot of six two two oh

712
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Speaker 12: five with a four to five with ability to go

713
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Speaker 12: above the room and win at the catch point down

714
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Speaker 12: the field. Like they don't really have like a jump

715
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Speaker 12: ball receiver on the team outside of him. And so

716
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Speaker 12: if it's Keishan Boodie, it's Kyle Williams. You know, these

717
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 12: guys are are different skill sets. They're not exactly the

718
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Speaker 12: same as Javon Baker. So his skill set stands out

719
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Speaker 12: over the rest of these players. Now, is that enough

720
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Speaker 12: to put him on the roster. I don't know, but

721
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Speaker 12: to me, he's like the one guy that they can

722
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Speaker 12: put on the outside and actually he can win the

723
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Speaker 12: ball down the field, you know, in a contested situation.

724
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Speaker 8: I don't know if that's the other guy's game.

725
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Speaker 5: If not for that characteristic, I'd be a hard no.

726
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 5: But he does provide something that they do not have

727
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: any other guy on the roster that has that skill set.

728
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Speaker 5: So because of that, I want to see some more.

729
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Speaker 5: But I've watched him now for you know, a full

730
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Speaker 5: year last year and pretty much all of camp this year,

731
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Speaker 5: and he's just so wildly inconsistent. I'm a no dog,

732
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Speaker 5: but he does have a skill set that I don't

733
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Speaker 5: really think that they have anybody else that has.

734
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Speaker 4: It's one of those guys just really hard. I think

735
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Speaker 4: from a coaching standpoint that you're.

736
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Speaker 15: Intrigued by the traits that he has, but if you

737
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Speaker 15: can't count on him and you know he's not going

738
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Speaker 15: to deliver it, So that's somebody to me, who's going

739
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 15: to play a lot on this preseason and talk about

740
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Speaker 15: eliminating preseason games.

741
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Speaker 3: You know, if you do go down to one or two,

742
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Speaker 3: it's guys like Jaymon Baker, who are on that bubble,

743
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Speaker 3: who have the talent, who maybe just need a couple

744
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: of games where they play a bunch to find I just.

745
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Speaker 5: Need that to be in practice. I don't need it

746
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Speaker 5: to be like catching a patch from Ben Ben Wooldridge

747
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: to tell me that he can do something. That's that's

748
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Speaker 5: my whole field with the whole preseason games thing. If

749
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Speaker 5: he was going to be out there with Drake May

750
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: for three quarters, now that's a different story. But I

751
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 5: just again, I fought that fight. I don't think it's

752
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 5: ever coming back like that. Some of the frontline guys

753
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Speaker 5: will play like Patrick Mahomes generally plays every year in

754
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Speaker 5: the preseason a little bit more than most guys of

755
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 5: his you know stature, but not a lot. You know,

756
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Speaker 5: he'll get a series.

757
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: He would help the league more. A minor league or

758
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: you know Pro Football favorite in the spring or a

759
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: minor league that's happening while the NFL seasons that you

760
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: could pull people from as you need them, as injuries

761
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Speaker 2: come up, or as guys start to flash you you

762
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Speaker 2: can you can sign people from this other league.

763
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Speaker 3: It might be hard to maintain during the season where

764
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Speaker 3: you're constantly losing guys and then you got to find

765
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Speaker 3: new guys to fill those guys. If you're just kind

766
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: of a feeder system for the NFL, so you.

767
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Speaker 12: Have to always separate, like you'd have to have your

768
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Speaker 12: own GM and your own head coach have to be

769
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Speaker 12: literally it's on separate entity because that team.

770
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Speaker 2: The Patriots, like, it's not the Patriots minor league team,

771
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Speaker 2: it's the NFL's minor league teams and t and each

772
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Speaker 2: team can draw from anybody. M hm, you can decide

773
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Speaker 2: to sign anyone.

774
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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I mean I've always said that I'd love

775
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Speaker 12: to see something like that. Now I think of it

776
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Speaker 12: more of a spring thing, so that it fills the

777
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Speaker 12: void of when we don't have for NFL football. I

778
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Speaker 12: don't know who's watching when there's college on Saturday and

779
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 12: there's NFL on else like, So it's not necessarily filling

780
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 12: that void like it would in the spring, but.

781
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Speaker 2: I would know that, like, if a guy starts really

782
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Speaker 2: doing well in that league, the NFL teams are gonna

783
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: notice and they could grab him, might you know, uh,

784
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Speaker 2: spur interest in the league.

785
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Speaker 12: Would have to play on like a Tuesday night, Like

786
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Speaker 12: it'd have to be something, you know, I.

787
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Speaker 4: Think the thing is hard to me though.

788
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Speaker 3: It's just that when you see this happen with like

789
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: UFL guys, it's never really anybody all that talented. I

790
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 3: mean in theory the way you're laying it out, it's

791
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Speaker 3: like and maybe someone will blossom like well this is.

792
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Speaker 2: Where like a Javon Baker.

793
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.

794
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: Maybe, but I just think that would be so rare

795
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: to really find players that made it through the cracks.

796
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 5: And a lot of those guys in the UFL, you know,

797
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 5: the kind of play comes to it immediately comes to mind,

798
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 5: you know, big.

799
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Speaker 8: Tall draft media got that you know, uh, you know.

800
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Speaker 5: X receiver, you know on the outside. I see him

801
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 5: in the in the UFL, but kind of I'm the

802
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 5: only one that's a loser and watching some of that stuff.

803
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Speaker 12: Like Jeremiah Farms is probably one of the best like

804
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 12: cases of it. I mean, I'm sure there's others and

805
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 12: other teams, just the ones I know are the Patriots.

806
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 12: Like Jeremiah Farm said a nice run in one of

807
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 12: those spring leagues, and the Patriots found him from there

808
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 12: and now he's been like a rotational piece for them

809
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 12: for the last couple of years. So that's probably been

810
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 12: the best success story here locally.

811
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Speaker 4: Some of the kickers too, I think probably have been

812
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 4: in some of those leagues.

813
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: Bates kid for uh, Detroit had a terrific season for them.

814
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 5: That's a little bit yes, Jake Bates, Yeah, yes, but

815
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 5: as a specialist dud and that that translates like it's

816
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 5: not like the level of competition you're kicking the ball,

817
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 5: you can he was kicking it in ford field for

818
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 5: the Michigan Panthers and for the Detroit Lions. Nothing changed.

819
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Speaker 3: It's funny for as many draft picks as every NFL

820
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: front office gets wrong, they still seem to generally be

821
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: able to identify the talent pool and the.

822
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Speaker 4: Guys down there. It's I mean, there's some.

823
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: Draft picks where you look back at you know whatever,

824
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen and you go right down. We did that

825
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: a couple of months ago, and there's so many players

826
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: that you're like, who's this guy? Like completely out of

827
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: the league. How could the NFL be so wrong about that?

828
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: And yet you'd think if that's the case, that in

829
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: those lower leagues there would be some gems that through

830
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Speaker 3: the cracks. But I think we found that guy was

831
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: Cam Wake Was he like a CFL one that was

832
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: one where he kind of something like that. He did

833
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: play in the season one that that was maybe a

834
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: little bit like that and be and actually became a

835
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 3: like a star in the NFL, but really rare.

836
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Brian and Indiana. What's up Brian?

837
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Speaker 17: Hey, guys, how are we doing good?

838
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Speaker 1: Hey?

839
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Speaker 17: Just two quick things. What is the possibility of the

840
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 17: team potentially moving on from ramondre Stevenson after the season.

841
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 17: I don't think he's really lived up to the contract

842
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 17: and we have a new regime. And it was just

843
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 17: one of your guys' thoughts on that. And then last

844
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 17: but not least, Bred and Paul when you guys go

845
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 17: at it, that's probably my favorite part of the show.

846
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 17: Love to see it. I'll take it off the year.

847
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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Okay, thanks Brian fight for me?

848
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 5: Well yeah, yeah, Dance, I would say there's a better

849
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 5: than average shot that they move on from reminder seasons

850
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 5: and after the season.

851
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 12: So his contract is really two more years yep. Now

852
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 12: they can cap stuff. Well, if they can need dead money,

853
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 12: they can.

854
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 2: You know, let's see what type of season he has, right, but.

855
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 8: He's here for this year.

856
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 12: I think unless the trade comes up, which I don't

857
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 12: think it will, but if it did, but contractually his

858
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 12: deal kind of runs through twenty twenty six, right, so

859
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 12: it's up.

860
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know.

861
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 4: I'd still i'd still want to hang on to Antonio Gibson.

862
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: I've seen some people positive that maybe he's on, could

863
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: be on, like a trade candidate.

864
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know.

865
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, you know you need I mean you

866
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 5: need I'm sort of anti running the ball, but you

867
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 5: actually need running back.

868
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Speaker 14: You have you have.

869
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Speaker 5: I don't care who they are, but you have to

870
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Speaker 5: have some running backs on your roster.

871
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 8: Sure, I think they keep four.

872
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 12: I think Larson's gonna might stick to to Paul's point, like,

873
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 12: I think they're gonna need the running backs, and you're

874
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 12: not one hundred percent sure about Stevenson. And if you

875
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 12: can rely on Stevenson, well, if Gibson and Henderson become

876
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 12: like the one two punch, then you need a backup.

877
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Speaker 3: And they had a backup with some size that could

878
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: maybe be in really down kind of guy and maybe

879
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 3: would consider it. But I still think that ramondro Stevens

880
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Speaker 3: is so unique on this team in terms of his

881
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: size and his ability to be balanced that it would

882
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: be hard to get by with just Gibson and Henderson.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you'd be kind of limited.

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Speaker 12: The worst case scenario happens and Remondred has a year

885
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Speaker 12: like he did last year.

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Speaker 6: It's just.

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Speaker 12: Other than eating the dead money and just moving on, like,

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Speaker 12: there's not gonna be a trade market. There's barely trade

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00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 12: markets for running Back says it is, So I just

890
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 12: that's that's a difficult part. When we talk about Stevenson,

891
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Speaker 12: is like, how like, how are you moving him? Well,

892
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 12: you know, unless you're just gonna rip it up.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I would expect both of those

894
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Speaker 5: guys from Stevenson and Gibson be part of the twenty

895
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 5: five picture, you know, going forward. I agree with you

896
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Speaker 5: know O'Brien the way he said it. You know, it's

897
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 5: kind of a contracts from our previous regime, and you're

898
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: gonna be looking to get you know, some of your

899
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 5: own guys much like they did this year. You can't

900
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 5: just like wipe them all away. But I think that

901
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 5: they they said goodbye to a handful of guys that

902
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Speaker 5: were under contract, like Andrews and Bentley and you know,

903
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Speaker 5: and some of those kinds of guys, and I think

904
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Speaker 5: there'll be more next year.

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Speaker 2: Wise and godscha, they were.

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Speaker 5: Well Godshaw was traded. Wise was a free agent.

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Speaker 2: He was Brad's in Ohio. What's up, Brad?

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Speaker 18: Hi, guys, how you doing that.

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 19: I've just got a couple uh questions and observations.

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00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 13: First of all, with.

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Speaker 19: The preseason games, I think the only thing you can

913
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Speaker 19: actually glean from that is once in a while you'll

914
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Speaker 19: see a player that popped out, you know, so there

915
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Speaker 19: you fight, you find that you actually hit a gym

916
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 19: once in a blue Uh. But you know, and I

917
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 19: wondered about it, we would might have if we keep

918
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 19: more receivers, like I'm anticipating if McDaniel's uses three and

919
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 19: were in five receivers, said with uh, Anderson and you

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Speaker 19: know two running back in a bunch formation in the shotgun.

921
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 19: Do you think the attributes of the wide receivers we

922
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Speaker 19: have even those, the differences would mesh well and like

923
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 19: bunch formations or something like that. And I believe Hope

924
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 19: and Baker that to me, this is their first season.

925
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 19: I mean they the coaching was sol atrocious and everywhere.

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Speaker 19: I just don't think they had an opportunity to do.

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Speaker 7: Anything, you know.

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00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: But but you know, thanks Bratt. I mean, they did

929
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: what they did. You know, it's it's still their ability

930
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: out there, whether or not the coach. You know, they

931
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Speaker 2: were coached up to that point in college and everything.

932
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Speaker 2: So I hear what he's saying that I don't don't.

933
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Speaker 5: I don't buy that at all. Like, how was Booty

934
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 5: What do you mean how was Kai shan Bouti last year?

935
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 5: He came on at the end despite not having any coaching,

936
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 5: his talent, sort of his talent. You know, let's not

937
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 5: just put it. I mean, I'm just not here for

938
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: the whole like everything was a disaster last year because

939
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 5: of the coaching staff. I'm not going to get into.

940
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 5: It's not Gerard Mayo bashing season for me. I know

941
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 5: that that's been a real good thing for a lot

942
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 5: of people. That make them, everybody feel better about the

943
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 5: fact that they only won four games last year was

944
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 5: all because of the big bad mini coach two years ago.

945
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 5: And then you know, the guy who was too easy

946
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 5: on them last year. That's why they've won four games.

947
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 5: It's not it's not a lot of the players that

948
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 5: they have haven't been good enough and that's why I

949
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 5: think Elliott Wolf, Ryan Cowden and Mike Rabel have worked

950
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 5: really hard to bring in a lot of new players

951
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: to replace a lot of the guys that have been

952
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 5: on those rosters the last year.

953
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: Said it almost on day one, this team is going

954
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: to look a lot different in August.

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00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 5: And that's the thing that has me most optimistic about

956
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 5: the future. It's a combination of the young guys that

957
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 5: they drafted, like Henderson, that that Mike and Evan talked

958
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 5: about earlier and the things that he might be able

959
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 5: to do, and bringing in veteran guys who I think

960
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 5: play at a level significantly higher than the guys that

961
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 5: they're replacing. And we don't everybody knows all the names,

962
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 5: and Milton Williams and Robert splains Carlton Davis's of the world,

963
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 5: those guys are better than the guys they're replacing.

964
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: Travis writes in from West Virginia. A couple of caller

965
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: on caller tidbits. One you might want to rein in

966
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: Nate and Connecticut before we have another Pat Nagawam on

967
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 2: our hands. We don't need to hear from him every show. Well,

968
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: but here's the thing Travis, A small percentage of the

969
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: people who listen call her email.

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00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 5: So if you call, you're more than welcome to call

971
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 5: every show. Well, taking the.

972
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: Calls a call, you know, like if you want to call, call,

973
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: so Nate call, I'm gonna take Nate's call.

974
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Speaker 5: You don't steal that from me. I appreciate it.

975
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: But you know, variety is obviously the spice of life.

976
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: But like I said, a very very small percentage of

977
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: people who listen to sports radio in general actually call.

978
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: They just want to listen or watch, you know, they

979
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: don't want to get on the phone. So I get that.

980
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: So when people call, I answered the phone. You no.

981
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 3: I love when people say first time caller that they're

982
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 3: still moved to call in and tell us something too.

983
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: If James Pettigrew wants to refer to himself as the

984
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: most interesting Patriots fan in the world, well I refer

985
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: to him as that. Fred doesn't refer to him, it seems,

986
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: but anyway, he might want to call in with a

987
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: more interesting topic than how many wins will the Patriots have? Fred,

988
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: why do you even entertain that topic at this point?

989
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: So with criticisms for me for the callers, Travis in

990
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: West Virginia on his high horse. That's okay, that's all right.

991
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: Fire, I just want to go back for a second

992
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: with Paul was saying, I'm finding now to some intrigue

993
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: of what's the turnover like next year?

994
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: Are there? You know, it still feels like more to come.

995
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: There, still feels like there's some pieces that they weren't

996
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: quite able to hammer in the way that they want

997
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: just yet.

998
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 4: And a little bit to the point of what you

999
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: were saying, with a contract like Ramandra Stevenson or Michael

1000
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 4: one of those kind of guys.

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00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: Dugger you know, to those guys after this year, do

1002
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: we really see whether or not those guys fit into

1003
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: what they And some.

1004
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 5: Of the guys that they brought in, even that are

1005
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 5: on you know, longer term contracts, they're probably not all

1006
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 5: going to be just oh yeah, you know, he signed

1007
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 5: a three year deal, so he was going to be

1008
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 5: here for three years, you know, right, right.

1009
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Speaker 12: But even like you know, to your point, just like

1010
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 12: the Devis and the jennings Is and like like I

1011
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 12: think get rid of all the right like I think

1012
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 12: like some of the guys we're hoping, you know, Dugger

1013
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 12: of Pepper's or Mandra Stevenson, Like maybe they're more of

1014
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 12: the players that they work two years ago instead of

1015
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 12: last year. But like, I still can't really figure out

1016
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 12: where those two guys, in particular Jennings and Tavia are

1017
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 12: going to fit into the vision that of the defense

1018
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 12: that they're playing now. Like I just don't really understand

1019
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 12: their role right now. So like I'm with you, like

1020
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 12: those types of guys, Like I feel like they needed

1021
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 12: to keep them around this year, probably for depth purposes,

1022
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Speaker 12: just because they couldn't turn They can't have fifty three

1023
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Speaker 1: How are we doing great? Hi Karen? You miss me?

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Speaker 8: Thanks and we haven't chatted you with you since the

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Speaker 8: in stadium practice and.

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Speaker 5: The offense had some issues.

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Speaker 8: They were kind of sloppy.

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Speaker 18: A couple of interceptions from midri put the ball on

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Speaker 18: the ground.

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Speaker 1: Just curious. Yeah.

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Speaker 22: The turnovers, yeah, turnovers, you know, I thought we did

1079
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 22: some really good things and uh try to show him that,

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00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 22: you know, the turnovers are certainly gonna get his beat.

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Speaker 1: We had some passes that should have been caught with some.

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Speaker 22: You know, I would say decisions right, I think, and

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Speaker 22: hopefully you know when we ask a receiver, you know,

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Speaker 22: do a run a play like that that if it's

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Speaker 22: play and he could continue to run.

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Speaker 1: Out of the pocket, he could throw it away.

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Speaker 22: So those are great things to teach on in those

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Speaker 22: specific instances in Remandre. You know, when make a great

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Speaker 22: cut and you and you break through, know that that

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Speaker 22: every team in the league is and hopefully ours is

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Speaker 22: one of those teams that you know, the guys coming

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Speaker 22: to the ball and they're they're gonna come and hammer it,

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Speaker 22: and they're gonna they're gonna play full tilt to the tackle.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 22: The cut, great cut, good job in the open field

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Speaker 22: and you know, fun Fortunately we'll have to continue to

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Speaker 22: rep that and take.

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Speaker 1: Care of football.

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Speaker 22: But that that's something that those things that you mentioned,

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Speaker 22: I think overshadow a lot of the good stuff that

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Speaker 22: that we did in a in a in a team

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00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 22: setting that had the team split up and had different

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Speaker 22: guys working with with different you know, guys next.

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Speaker 17: To him times last year, I know you were here.

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Speaker 1: Does he get like a fresh clean slate from you?

1107
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Speaker 22: Or everybody has a fresh clean slate, and you know,

1108
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Speaker 22: we like to go through those things. And some of

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Speaker 22: that is techniques. Some of that is the second guy

1110
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Speaker 22: in a lot of times on fumbles. If you want

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00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 22: to talk fumbles and ball security, I'm happy to do that.

1112
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Speaker 22: But one person is going to have the ball in

1113
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Speaker 22: their hand, uh, every play offensively, and the rest of

1114
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Speaker 22: those ten players are going to be responsible for protecting

1115
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Speaker 22: the guy with the ball, and so yep, there were

1116
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 22: some instances where he put it on the ground and

1117
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Speaker 22: there were some instances where you know, the second guy

1118
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Speaker 22: came in, and we need to eliminate the second guy

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Speaker 22: from coming in by the way that we play and

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Speaker 22: our plate demeanor and the way that we finish. So uh,

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Speaker 22: clean slate. Everybody has has a clean slate. But also

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Speaker 22: you know, there's things that have to have to change

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Speaker 22: and you know, be better at every every position as

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Speaker 22: we move towards the season.

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Speaker 5: Towards the end of the game.

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Speaker 23: How much of that was good situational awareness from him

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Speaker 23: and how much of that maybe could have been a

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Speaker 23: better decision.

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Speaker 22: Well, I mean we would need to make you know,

1130
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Speaker 22: I mean we need to if the if the corner

1131
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 22: is flat footed, we probably need to throw it over

1132
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Speaker 22: his head and live to fight another day. Credit credit

1133
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Speaker 22: to double A. And I like sometimes when these things

1134
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Speaker 22: come up, because now we can coach the quarterbacks to

1135
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Speaker 22: to say, hey, if the guy's not bailing, if you're

1136
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Speaker 22: just sitting there standing flat footed, and you go over there,

1137
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Speaker 22: it's a it's a yes no, and you're gonna have

1138
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Speaker 22: to just decide that. You know, you can't progress back

1139
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Speaker 22: and come over here to the field, You're going to

1140
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Speaker 22: get sacked or strip sacked. So throw it over his

1141
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Speaker 22: head and being able to to catch that ball double

1142
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Speaker 22: A and end it and then explain to him, you know,

1143
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 22: go down, go down, go down.

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Speaker 1: We have the lead.

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Speaker 22: And you know, these are all great things that come

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Speaker 22: up and allow us to coach. And just like the

1147
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Speaker 22: drive before, you know, we throw one into Kays and

1148
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Speaker 22: kay Sean does a nice job to get us in

1149
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 22: the field goal range. Thomas chose to call time out.

1150
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 22: He was the head coach. That was his decision. You know,

1151
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 22: I told the team, hey, listen, we have a couple options.

1152
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 22: We can now go to the ball. We can clock

1153
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 22: the ball and be second down. We can center it

1154
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 22: wherever we want to center it. We can slow clock it.

1155
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 22: We can you know, take a knee. I can call

1156
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 22: time out with three seconds and we kick the winner.

1157
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Speaker 22: So those are all things that come up, and they

1158
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 22: come up organically and allows us to teach it and

1159
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 22: coach it. And I know that this happens having done

1160
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 22: this for however many years, I can show them, but

1161
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Speaker 22: until they actually are in that position which they're going

1162
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Speaker 22: to come up. The more that we do to a minute,

1163
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Speaker 22: just like today, we're going to have end of game situation.

1164
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Speaker 22: Ball is going to be on the twenty five yard line,

1165
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 22: going to be forty five seconds. You're going to see

1166
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Speaker 22: what the last plays are from the five yard line

1167
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Speaker 22: or the ten yard line, because that's just where the

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Speaker 22: ball is going to be, I would imagine.

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Speaker 1: So then we can coach those up and see where

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Speaker 1: it goes. Sorry, it's a long.

1171
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Speaker 22: Winded answer, but there's a lot of different situations that

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Speaker 22: come up just by repping it, and I can show them,

1173
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 22: but then they actually there in it. I said, Okay,

1174
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Speaker 22: now we can coach from from our example come.

1175
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Speaker 1: This preseason, gave what's your plan with the quarterback rotation?

1176
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Speaker 1: And my outtra It's Monday.

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Speaker 22: We're focusing on the red zone, focusing on being real

1178
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 22: precise down there, not going backwards, not hurting ourselves defense,

1179
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 22: you know, defending every blade of grass, making sure that

1180
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Speaker 22: we undercut when receivers, all the details for the red

1181
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 22: zone that are going to hopefully help us in a season.

1182
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Speaker 22: That's what my focus is, getting back to fundamentals.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 22: And then you know, when Friday comes around, I'll try

1185
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Speaker 22: to do my best to let everybody know.

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Speaker 23: You said that when you look forward to the first

1187
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Speaker 23: full padded practice to identify some of those guys and

1188
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 23: you cut your eye and what have you Now that

1189
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 23: you've seen some of those players, what do you want

1190
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Speaker 23: from them now here on out?

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00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think continued growth.

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Speaker 22: You know, we're still in training camp, and so the

1193
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Speaker 22: ones that have continued to show improvement and that have

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Speaker 22: maybe earned some more reps, you know, continuing to do

1195
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Speaker 22: those types of things and to continue to take the

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Speaker 22: next step to continue to compete.

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Speaker 1: For a role.

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Speaker 22: And then the ones, you know, have an opportunity to

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Speaker 22: to try to get going if you know, maybe they

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Speaker 22: haven't you know, put their best work out there.

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Speaker 1: I don't defer to these guys. Just step in there.

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Speaker 21: Cornley the field early on Friday on just you have

1203
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Speaker 21: the update on kind of what happened.

1204
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Speaker 22: The update was just kind of got rolled up, and

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Speaker 22: he won't be out here. I wouldn't anticipate him this week,

1206
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Speaker 22: So he'll be working hard to get back, just like

1207
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Speaker 22: everybody else.

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Speaker 1: That's not going to be out there.

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Speaker 22: Other than that, I wouldn't expect them here at practice today,

1210
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Speaker 22: and uh, you know, probably not against Washington on Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: Like we've seen the two kickers kick on alternating days,

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Speaker 5: we've seen to kick on the same days of living

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Speaker 5: in the stadium.

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Speaker 2: What are your impressions thus well.

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Speaker 22: They both have done very well, and I mean, I'm

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Speaker 22: sure nineteen to twenty one or whatever they both are,

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Speaker 22: and I think they've gotten better and it's a good

1218
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Speaker 22: competition and I'm glad that they both got to kick

1219
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Speaker 22: into the stadium and try to get the extra points

1220
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Speaker 22: and get the end of game kicks.

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Speaker 1: And everything that we did.

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00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 22: So you know, just try to get the volume and

1223
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Speaker 22: try to you know, every day Jeremy and Tom have

1224
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Speaker 22: a have a plan for them on how they're going

1225
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Speaker 22: to kick.

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Speaker 2: You see from the kickoff, because we've talked about that.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think I think they're working through what that

1228
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Speaker 22: looks like.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 22: You have a couple of different choices if you you know,

1231
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Speaker 22: want to try to put it up there high and

1232
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Speaker 22: try to get it as close to the goal line,

1233
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Speaker 22: but don't get cute, right, you can't have the ball

1234
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 22: to the thirty five yard line. And then also some

1235
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Speaker 22: of these you know, whether they're the low liner, whatever

1236
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Speaker 22: that may be. I think that's where you talk about

1237
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 22: practice and we'll have to figure out what's best for

1238
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 22: us and you know, decide on something.

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Speaker 4: Like understanding everyone's got a long way to go here

1240
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Speaker 4: in camp?

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Speaker 1: Are there any positions you feel like you need to

1242
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: learn more about every single morning?

1243
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Speaker 22: I want to continue to learn about our players, about

1244
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 22: those positions, about the combinations, and that that's what training

1245
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 22: camps for is, you know, really just to.

1246
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, get get get the players.

1247
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Speaker 22: In there that can continue to to to improve and

1248
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Speaker 22: to compete and go from transitioning against our offense to

1249
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Speaker 22: quickly adjusting to what Washington is going to do on Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: I know we haven't seen much of Matt Collins on

1251
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 5: the field so far, but what have you seen from

1252
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 5: him off the field?

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Speaker 1: Helping out some younger guys.

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Speaker 22: Spend a lot of time here in the off season

1255
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 22: locked in, engaged. Rare for a player to be able

1256
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Speaker 22: to get that much information and not practice that is

1257
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Speaker 22: that's hard.

1258
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Speaker 1: That's hard, just.

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Speaker 22: Even thinking back when I was in those opportunities to

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Speaker 22: be able to do that and still understand the details

1261
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Speaker 22: and not practicing it. So locked in, ready to go,

1262
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 22: excited to see him get out there and practice.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead, and now great moments in.

1264
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Speaker 12: History to make the trade happen, but they got an

1265
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Speaker 12: All Star.

1266
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Speaker 2: When is the trade hitline?

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Speaker 8: By the way, July end of July?

1268
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Speaker 5: And I just don't know why trading for.

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Speaker 2: A month and a half. It's a month and a

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Speaker 2: half from now.

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Speaker 5: You don't know how calendars work. It's less than a

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Speaker 5: month away the trade deadlines. He said, end of July.

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Speaker 5: Usually it's the middle of July, but it's the end

1274
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Speaker 5: of June. Now, it's like.

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Speaker 1: That's the middle of middle of June.

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Speaker 5: So it's less than a month away.

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Speaker 2: I said a month and a half because he said

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Speaker 2: it was the end of July.

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Speaker 5: You know, so the thirty first is a month and

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Speaker 5: a half. Okay, Okay, you're right, it's happen and a half.

1281
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 5: Why do you have to wait till you're right? I said,

1282
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 5: it's a long time. I said, you're right. No, it's

1283
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Speaker 5: not a long time.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: That's another great moment.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered eight five five

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Speaker 2: Pats five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com.

1288
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: Is the email address uh ted in Las Vegas, right,

1289
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: sin uh. He has a question about the preseason games.

1290
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: He wants us to clarify whether or not he can

1291
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: listen to preseason radio broadcasts in Las Vegas. Before last week, Scrimmaged,

1292
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: the Patriots website said the radio broadcast was available on

1293
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: a computer throughout the US, but I couldn't find a

1294
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: link to get it. Today's website applies. Friday's radio broadcast

1295
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Speaker 2: is only available in New England.

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Speaker 1: That is correct.

1297
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: You can only get the preseason game in the States

1298
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: in New England. So what I would suggest is move

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Speaker 2: to Germany or Brazil because you'll be able to listen

1300
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: to it live. Because Germany and home countries.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, quit to move for you can.

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Speaker 2: Come to New England. Yeah, but unfortunately, per league rules,

1303
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: we can't broadcast audio or the game itself outside of

1304
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: New England because it's not our market. I think it's dumb.

1305
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: It's like, really, we're protecting preseason, you know.

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Speaker 8: Be able to listen to the team you want to

1307
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Speaker 8: listen to.

1308
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Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, So I think they'll get there eventually,

1309
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: but yes, for now, only in New England can you

1310
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: listen to the game.

1311
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 4: I drove up the Pasadena wants to watch a Patriots

1312
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 4: preseason game. That's how desperate I was some game.

1313
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 5: Why would it be in Pasadena and not where you.

1314
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 3: Were went to like a Patriots bar, Like it wasn't

1315
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: streaming anywhere other than like a bar where a club that's.

1316
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: The big one San Diego, the Sonny mcclains, that's in LA.

1317
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's well, there's.

1318
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 6: Two of them.

1319
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was there. Yeah, I know that.

1320
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 4: I've only been sure.

1321
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 5: I always thought that was an l A thing.

1322
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: It is, it is, it is in La.

1323
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been to those that it's only characters.

1324
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was only not even because you know, it

1325
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 12: was working. But I was only able to go like

1326
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 12: once or twice. But it was fun when I did get.

1327
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: It's so fun. I mean, like it's like nine am.

1328
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: The line would already be out the door, and you know,

1329
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: usually i'd sit down and be like nine forty five

1330
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: and everybody's settling in til you.

1331
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: Know, like I'm not gonna drink yet, And then by

1332
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 4: like nine fifty five, I was like, well.

1333
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 6: That.

1334
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: But I love that timeframe though, because then you know

1335
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: one o'clock one thirty, the first games are over.

1336
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 4: You you know, you have the rest of the day

1337
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 4: to do what you need to do.

1338
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Speaker 12: It's not great when you were working and you have

1339
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 12: to be there at six am. Call time does not ideal,

1340
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 12: But woe is me?

1341
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: Uh Joel and Ottawa. I really think the first step

1342
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 2: and having some sort of developmental program for NFL players

1343
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: would be expand the practice roster, double it and allow

1344
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: each team to develop their own players in their system.

1345
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 8: I'm not sure there's enough to double it.

1346
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 5: There's sixteen guys on them.

1347
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1348
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 3: Is it controversial to just say there should just be

1349
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: one league where the best of the best play and

1350
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 3: either get into that league and you play good in

1351
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 3: that league, or you.

1352
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 5: Know, I don't think that's controversial.

1353
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 3: Seventeen different developmental leagues, just in case one random guy

1354
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: might come through and help your team in ten years.

1355
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Speaker 5: I don't know. We were kind of talking about this

1356
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 5: soft air. Maybe we shouldn't do this on air, but

1357
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 5: every year we do, like the roster Raydownson. Every year

1358
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 5: we're like, I don't know, like, did they have fifty

1359
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 5: three got Like, I don't think it's that hard. Don't

1360
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 5: I think that they're looking for talent? Yeah, I don't.

1361
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 5: I think there's a shortage of you know, I think

1362
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 5: you could chop off the bottom five guys of every

1363
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 5: roster and just change them and teams would be completely

1364
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 5: and totally unaffected.

1365
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 2: But isn't that the point of developmental league? Like some

1366
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: guys are later.

1367
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 5: On there's not enough guys there had my point.

1368
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: There has to be a place for these guys to develop.

1369
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I just don't think there's enough talent.

1370
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Speaker 12: I think the way I look at it is like

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01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 12: more less like if we had thirty two players on

1372
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 12: a practice squad and more like let's say, uh, I

1373
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 12: just use him as an example, like Kiden Wallace.

1374
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 8: Let's say Kiden Wallace.

1375
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 12: Is just going to ride the bench just here and

1376
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 12: he's not going to get any game opportunities whatsoever. But

1377
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 12: that's a former third round pick that has some upside.

1378
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 12: It has some potential if he was able to work

1379
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 12: on his craft in a spring league and then hit

1380
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 12: the ground running in a training camp setting, you know,

1381
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 12: come into the could someone.

1382
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 8: Like that emerge?

1383
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 12: Not could a UDFA that's the second, you know, eighteenth

1384
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 12: guy on the practice squad emerge. We're talking about like

1385
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 12: the guys fifty through fifty three on an NFL roster,

1386
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 12: maybe like somewhere in that range.

1387
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: Okay, uh Jordan and Marilyn writes in and wanted to

1388
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: open up the door for an around the NFL conversation.

1389
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 2: I know you guys keep your eyes around the league.

1390
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: So what's something you've heard from other camps around the

1391
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: NFL that has your interest piqued me? Personally, I have

1392
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 2: three quick ones. Shador Sanders is fourth string on the Browns,

1393
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams frustration and drills, and Amika Ibuka lighting it

1394
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 2: up in training camp, which I know my phrasing will

1395
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: upset Paul. The Caleb Williams one that does intrigue me.

1396
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 5: I've heard nothing about any of that except for that

1397
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 5: Shad Door Sanders. I saw a tweet he said that

1398
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 5: he was fourth on the hurt shoulder. Shoulder. I never

1399
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 5: heard anything.

1400
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: About the Bears offense. Even the new head coach has

1401
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 2: come out and said, we don't look good.

1402
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: I've seen some bad clips from their training camp which

1403
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 3: could just be selectively brought in, and I'm sure you

1404
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 3: could find some of those kind of plays with Patriots

1405
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 3: camp too, but there have been a couple and I

1406
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 3: don't know if there's something going on there. And I'm

1407
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: just curious because Ben Johnson, I really liked him through

1408
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: the initial process when he was hired, and you know,

1409
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 3: it just seemed like he really had a focus. But

1410
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 3: now I'm kind of thinking, like, this guy seems pretty

1411
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: hard ass, and maybe this isn't going to be quite

1412
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: as smooth as as he anticipated. Because think they've made

1413
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 3: some great was in the off season. I mean, they

1414
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: really did a great job on their offensive line. I

1415
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: mean they're stacked at receiver. I mean, they've done everything

1416
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 3: you could ask. They hired the hot new offensive coordinator

1417
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 3: that everyone's but I saw one where they were trying

1418
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: to pull like a double pass off and.

1419
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 4: It just looks like so clunky.

1420
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 12: I think the thing that I find interesting with Caleb

1421
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 12: is that, like, this is an offense with Ben Johnson

1422
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 12: where you need to color inside the lines, and he's

1423
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 12: a quarterback that wants to color outside the lines, And like,

1424
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,479
Speaker 12: how do they find that? Like you could not find

1425
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 12: a quarterback more different than Jared Goff than Caleb Williams.

1426
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 12: Like that is they are total polar opposites of one another.

1427
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 12: So how do they run the system that he was

1428
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 12: running in Detroit or the quarterback that who inherently wants

1429
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 12: to improvise, you know, Like so it's just kind of

1430
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 12: like a weird in that a little.

1431
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 3: Bit of eccentric personalities too, with Caleb James and Ben Johnson.

1432
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 4: Is just a little different weird.

1433
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 5: I'm not sure I would agree with with that, Mike.

1434
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 5: I would also just ask and I literally have not

1435
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 5: seen any of it. I don't like envelope. It just

1436
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 5: comes across the NFL network, does not go on my

1437
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 5: TV at this time of year.

1438
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: Because I was becoming more like Eric.

1439
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 5: No, I don't know, I'm like I'm right now, it's

1440
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 5: just all about the Patriots training camp today. I don't

1441
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 5: really care like training camp central nonsense. I just skip

1442
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 5: right over that, gloss right over that. But I would

1443
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 5: be curious with Caleb Williams. Is it he's not picking

1444
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 5: up the offense and he's physically not playing well, he's

1445
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 5: been inaccurate or does he have the other things which

1446
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 5: I would be far more concerned about, where his reputation

1447
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 5: of not being a great teammate, not being a great leader,

1448
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 5: those things rearing their head. Okay, that's what I would

1449
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 5: be worried about. Picking up a new system. To me,

1450
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 5: that's he has the ability. Oh yeah, but there's questions

1451
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 5: about his makeup and if this is related to that,

1452
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 5: I'd be far more concerned if I were a Chicago fan.

1453
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:56,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm sorry.

1454
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 12: Based off the this press commence is probably like a

1455
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 12: week or ten days old at this point that Fred

1456
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 12: was talking about with Ben Johnson. But Ben Johnson admittedly

1457
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 12: said that he was playing slow, like his processing speed was,

1458
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 12: you know, was too slow and you know, just kind

1459
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 12: of trying to figure out the offense. The other one

1460
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 12: that I have heard the last couple of days, and

1461
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 12: because we loved the demise of the New York Jets,

1462
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 12: it just this just really I enjoyed this in every way,

1463
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 12: shape or form, apparently Justin Fields is having an awful

1464
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 12: training camp and is like three days in a row. Now,

1465
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 12: I mean, look, practice stats are practice dats. Take them

1466
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 12: for what they're worth. But obviously what they're reporting in

1467
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 12: New York is not very good with Justin Fields.

1468
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 2: So what do we hear about Aaron Rodgers?

1469
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 8: Not much.

1470
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 12: I haven't heard a ton of either way with him,

1471
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 12: you know. I think that from what I've seen, it's

1472
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 12: like pretty similar to what he looked like last year

1473
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 12: with the Jets, but not anything totally definitive. But I

1474
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 12: definitely have heard the Caleb stuff, and I've heard that

1475
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 12: Justin Fields has been a train wreck in New York.

1476
01:05:58,760 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 8: Those two things.

1477
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: We'll get the bills on Hard Knocks tonight, first episode,

1478
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: So a little peak behind the scenes with the.

1479
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 4: Buffalo bills, you know.

1480
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Drew's in Connecticut. Hey, Drew, you got.

1481
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 5: Something I did hear about James Cook.

1482
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 4: That's a problem.

1483
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 5: I saw that in the news, that about his hold

1484
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 5: in not practicing on all right, go ahead, Drew.

1485
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 14: Andrew, I just had two quick questions I wanted to

1486
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 14: ask you guys about. I was curious, like how the

1487
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 14: safety position is kind of panting out I know we

1488
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 14: have like the box sacies with Dugger and Peppers, and

1489
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 14: I know they're trying to figure out what the deep

1490
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 14: safety to play the field, and I'm kind of wondering

1491
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 14: what your guys just take on. Who's like kind of

1492
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 14: leading that, like out of the players we have with

1493
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 14: talking in the Muslim like, who's kind of standing out

1494
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 14: is going to be the lead deep safety? And I

1495
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 14: also want to ask you guys, how do you guys

1496
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 14: see like fins room this camp and where does he

1497
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 14: kind of ranked with the receiver group team tight Like

1498
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 14: do you see him making the roster maybe or is

1499
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 14: it like pulking Baker in front?

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01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 2: M all right, thanks Drew.

1501
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: Safety safety, I mean Dugger and Peppers and Jalen Hawkins

1502
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: is the third guy that's generally speaking. There has been

1503
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 3: some rotation, opportunities for Craig Woodson to get in there,

1504
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 3: a little bit opportunities for Marcosteps to get in there.

1505
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 3: But at this point I would say those are the

1506
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: three guys and that's how it's it's gonna kind of work.

1507
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1508
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 12: I continue to wonder with the safeties, is there a

1509
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 12: world where Dugger and Peppers aren't always on the field

1510
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 12: together and in some of their three nickel corner you know,

1511
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 12: three corner nickel maybe even dime packages. Is there two

1512
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 12: safeties and they're kind of more complimentary than those two

1513
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 12: are to one another, And like is that Hawkins? Is

1514
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 12: that Craig Woodson. I think they are experimenting with that

1515
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 12: of seeing are we really at our best with two

1516
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 12: box safety body types on the field at once, or

1517
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 12: if we had a truth strong and free is that

1518
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 12: are we a little bit more off.

1519
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 4: And reading between them lines?

1520
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 3: I would say I think they like Pepper's better as

1521
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 3: that sub linebacker position playing close to the to the

1522
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage.

1523
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 4: So I know Gregor Bernard has said some things about

1524
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 4: Kyle Duger.

1525
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, potentially losing some of his size of

1526
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 3: his role.

1527
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 4: I haven't really seen that yet.

1528
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 3: To me, it just seems like they're still searching and

1529
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: trying to give younger guys some opportunities. But something to

1530
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 3: watch for sure.

1531
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 2: John writes in he wants to know if we have

1532
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: any updates on Terrell Williams how he's doing.

1533
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 12: Yeah, he was back at practice today. He was sitting

1534
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 12: on a look like a trash can or something like

1535
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 12: that that they had him sitting on but he was

1536
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 12: back at practice today, so that's that's a good sign.

1537
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like if he has to go around

1538
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: in a scooter, let him go around as a scooter, Like

1539
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: there's no reason for him to be pushing it. You know.

1540
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 3: I'd like to hear from him when we talked to

1541
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 3: him once after they put together that press conference over

1542
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 3: Zoom when he wasn't around the team, But we haven't

1543
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: spoken to him in person yet.

1544
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 4: Be interesting to see.

1545
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 3: I assume that's going to happen the next couple next

1546
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 3: week or so, but see where he's at, what he's

1547
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 3: got to say, how he's feeling.

1548
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 4: And you know, hear all the team talk.

1549
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: A lot about him and getting guys fired up, and

1550
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 3: it sounds like he has that defensive edge to him.

1551
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm just like to kind of get a sense of

1552
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: what that's like a little bit.

1553
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: We haven't been around him much.

1554
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: Jeff and Canada. Before training camp, I'd say the consensus

1555
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 2: of all the hosts was eight or nine wins was

1556
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,799
Speaker 2: a plausible season. Now you've watched two weeks of practice

1557
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 2: in person, so I'm wondering if any of you are

1558
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: now doubting your earlier thoughts or maybe you're even more

1559
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: confident from my perspective only hearing your descriptions because I

1560
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 2: can't handle Paul's shows what what you're saying sounds early

1561
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: similar to the last five training camps really well, I.

1562
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 5: Would push back on that. Yeah, I think we all

1563
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 5: feel it's been better, and I think we've said that. Yeah,

1564
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 5: I think it hasn't been great, but it's been better

1565
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 5: than what we've seen.

1566
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1567
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 3: Right, it's been competitive, you know, it's been competitive back

1568
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 3: and forth with both sides. I just I'd love to

1569
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 3: see more consistency out of the offense. I evn't talked

1570
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 3: about last year, where we felt like defense was always

1571
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 3: winning and you probably made you get a little too

1572
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 3: high on the defense and maybe not low enough on

1573
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 3: the offense.

1574
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 4: But this year, I feel both sides have had their moments.

1575
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 3: But again, my biggest question is about Drake and crunch

1576
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,879
Speaker 3: time been saying that all offseason and in the limited

1577
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 3: that we've seen him, we haven't really seen much yet

1578
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 3: from him, and that i'd say, I'm.

1579
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 4: A little bit a little bit discouraged about the offensive

1580
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 4: line right now.

1581
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: I would agree, you know, I just I just wish

1582
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 3: there was a couple more spots where I felt really

1583
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 3: good and stable. I know there are going to be

1584
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 3: some questions, but I have I have real questions about

1585
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 3: that because that ties directly into Drake It at crunch

1586
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 3: time and Max Crosby's coming on that field week one,

1587
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: and that's going to be quite the interesting matchup, especially

1588
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 3: if you've got two, maybe three rookies playing significant roles

1589
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 3: along the offensive line.

1590
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: It's a lot to handle.

1591
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, this was right. What grinded my gears a little bit.

1592
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 12: It wasn't so just now the two rookies thing, Uh,

1593
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 12: why are we painting that as such a negative thing?

1594
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 12: Like why, oh, two rookies, Like that's gonna I look

1595
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 12: at that as an overwhelming positive, Like they have two

1596
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 12: rookies that look like they can play and are significantly

1597
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 12: better than the guys that they're replacing, and yet we're

1598
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 12: painting that as some sort of problem. Like I just

1599
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 12: I guess I'm just like confused as to because that

1600
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 12: question has been asked at press conferences, It's been talked

1601
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 12: a lot about Paul's shows.

1602
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 8: Oh that's asking a lot out of two rookies.

1603
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 12: I was on the Morning Show the other day and

1604
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 12: that was the when I brought them that up.

1605
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 8: That was the knee jerk reaction to it was rookies.

1606
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, Whereas I look at it and say, they're elevating

1607
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 12: the talent. Like the talent, these guys are better than

1608
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 12: the guys that they were replacing.

1609
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: Well, are they gonna have their bumps this year? Yeah?

1610
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: But to me, if these are the two guys that

1611
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 2: for the next number of years are going to be

1612
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 2: the left side of your line, you know, let's get

1613
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: through the bumps and develop these guys.

1614
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 4: I mean, not the only point, and I agree generally.

1615
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 3: I just I look at it specifically to week one,

1616
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 3: when you have two rookies starting going against the best

1617
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 3: pass rusher in the league.

1618
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 4: I I agree with the general point of Evan. It's

1619
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 4: just you know, we all stress how important a good

1620
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 4: start is this year.

1621
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: Would you rather have a strange at left guard?

1622
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 3: No, but I think it's going to be a challenge

1623
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: for anybody, and having a good September is pretty important

1624
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 3: to this team. They have got an advantage of having

1625
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 3: some home games that they want to take advantage of.

1626
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 3: And you know, one or two plays where Max Crosby

1627
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 3: does what Max Crosby does, regardless of who it is.

1628
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could. It could change.

1629
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 18: The Max Crosby's in the world are going to get

1630
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 18: their point though, If you have the opportunity to have

1631
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 18: two guys, you know, be mainstays for your offensive line,

1632
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 18: I'd rather get it started earlier.

1633
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 5: I'm not as convinced about you know, you would mention

1634
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 5: you were a little disappointed in the offensive line. I

1635
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 5: would agree. I've been a little disappointed so far. Doesn't

1636
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 5: mean I'm going to be disappointed in October. And I

1637
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 5: do feel Jared Wilson and Will Campbell are the best

1638
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 5: options they have. We'll find out if those are good

1639
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 5: enough options, but they are the best options they have.

1640
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 5: I don't think there's much of an argument against that.

1641
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean i'd tie it too to just I

1642
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 3: think when Morgan Moses was signed and we had him

1643
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 3: in here and it was like stability, and it has

1644
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, it's been in and out in

1645
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 3: But I'm more disappointed or more concerned about that than

1646
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 3: i am about the left side.

1647
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I'm disappointed about it all. It hasn't been great.

1648
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 12: The left side is two rookies with a ton of

1649
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 12: upside and talent that, yeah, to Fred's point, are going

1650
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 12: to take on some you know, take their bumps and

1651
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 12: bruises along the way here, But you're building towards something.

1652
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 8: You're building towards those two guys.

1653
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 5: I like Fred's point being.

1654
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,959
Speaker 12: Together for a while on that left side. Jared Wilson's

1655
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 12: future might be at center in the long term, but regardless,

1656
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 12: like he's going to be in in your five, and

1657
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 12: so is Will Campbell. And for a team that had

1658
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 12: the worst offensive line in football last year by every margin,

1659
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 12: isn't it a good thing to be elevating the talent

1660
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 12: of that room and having but they have we'll see,

1661
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 12: I'm ready to say that they have Like this is

1662
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 12: defensive point is like you're going to have to go

1663
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 12: through these bumps and bruises to find out.

1664
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 5: I think you might very well be talking this time

1665
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 5: next year of those two guys moving over to the

1666
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 5: right one spot. When the head coach talks about the

1667
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 5: tackles versatility, okay.

1668
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 12: But or head a little or we could like actually

1669
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 12: realize what he's talking about When he says versatility, he's

1670
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 12: talking about versatility in terms of the different blocks that

1671
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 12: he can make.

1672
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 5: So like it's one way I looked at it. That's

1673
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 5: one one thing I brought up to Mike when we

1674
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 5: were talking about today. I said, you can look at

1675
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 5: that a number of different ways. You've decided what way

1676
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 5: it is. I I don't know what he was, no one,

1677
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 5: no one else, So I don't know what he was

1678
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 5: talking about.

1679
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 12: That's fair, but I have and I'm not like trying

1680
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 12: to come at you, but like I had, Barth got asked.

1681
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 12: Bart asked us the very first question out of the

1682
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 12: shoot yesterday. We were joking about it when he did

1683
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 12: his hit on Felger and Maz was Felger making this

1684
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 12: out to be that the versatility was about Will Campbell

1685
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 12: being able to play guard right and as versative positional versatility.

1686
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 12: I took it in the moment as versatility, as in,

1687
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 12: he can make a number of different blocks right, he

1688
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 12: can down block, he can kick out, he can pull,

1689
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 12: he can reach up to the second level, like those

1690
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 12: different types of things.

1691
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 5: Can you pass protect?

1692
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 8: I don't know, we'll find out, but that's the.

1693
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,799
Speaker 5: Only thing that matters to me about a left tackle.

1694
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 5: You can give all those other stuff, that's great. If

1695
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 5: he can't pass protect, he's going to be a guide.

1696
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 12: I'm just saying that I would much rather this than

1697
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 12: what they had last year, and he too, And my

1698
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 12: bigger concerns with this offensive line are actually about the

1699
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 12: veterans on the offensive line, because the two young kids

1700
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 12: are gonna they're gonna have their ebbs and flows, but

1701
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 12: at least we're going somewhere with those two. Let's see,

1702
01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 12: you know, brad Berry, Morgan Moses, like, those guys have

1703
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 12: got to prove it to me more than the rookies

1704
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 12: at this point.

1705
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, fran I like you'll point the best.

1706
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'll argue against myself. The only thing

1707
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 2: you could argue against me is Okay, Will Campbell and

1708
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 2: Jared Wilson are your best bets at left on the

1709
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 2: left side. But who are they replacing?

1710
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, so low against that, The bar was so low.

1711
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: If they didn't replace them, my god, the sky would

1712
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: be falling. So yes, I I Wilson's you know a

1713
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: surprise that he's come on so quickly, so well. But

1714
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 2: if Will Campbell wasn't the left guard tackle from day

1715
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: one like that would be a shock to me because

1716
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 2: he had no competition. For one, There's no competition for him,

1717
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 2: and what very.

1718
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 5: Little competition they had was on the pup list, yea,

1719
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 5: but even then, I don't think that there was much

1720
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 5: of a competition.

1721
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: He's not he's not he's not.

1722
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 5: In my view, he's not really a competition, I agree with. Yeah.

1723
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: Now, the thing, like so Campbell, I expected to see

1724
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 2: what I'm seeing Wilson, I think is the encouraging thing

1725
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 2: is that he has impressed everyone so quickly, not just

1726
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: in his physical ability but his mental ability to pick

1727
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: things up, which lends to you know what Evan's saying.

1728
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 2: He'll probably end up at center eventually, but right now,

1729
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: if you're looking for your top five, you know, you

1730
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: got to fit him in somewhere, and so Guard is

1731
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 2: probably where he's going to start and then maybe eventually

1732
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:30,480
Speaker 2: take over for Bradbury.

1733
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 4: But no, he's one of the brightest.

1734
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 3: He's one of the brightest storylines along that offensive line

1735
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 3: that we've had since Michael, when you came in and

1736
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 3: instantly started to get it, and.

1737
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 4: There hasn't really been a lot of that. Well, Campbell's

1738
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 4: the unique thing. He's the fourth overall pick. Now, that's

1739
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 4: to me the best.

1740
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 2: If Cole Strange could all of a sudden like just

1741
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: get it. Yeah, you know, I get he was definitely overdrafted.

1742
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: He wasn't a first round talent. But if he could

1743
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: just you know, do what Belichick thought he would be

1744
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 2: to do and and be a good guard, and then

1745
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 2: you move Wilson over to the center. Okay, we'll go

1746
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 2: and when you and then if we can you know,

1747
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: manage Morgan Moses. That's where you thought this, you know.

1748
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking two weeks ago, Fred, and

1749
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 3: I think unfortunately what we've seen is that ship I

1750
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 3: think is sailing pretty quick with Strange, who's hanging on.

1751
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 4: By a thread right now.

1752
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 3: But I do wonder when this all kind of started

1753
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 3: to happen that it never really was Wilson, you know,

1754
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 3: probably to Evans point that he's hit a lot of

1755
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 3: how much is on the plate of the center, that

1756
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 3: they felt like brad Berry at center and Wilson at

1757
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 3: left guard is better than now Wilson at center and

1758
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 3: Strange left for now.

1759
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 2: Right, because you don't want to put too much on them.

1760
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 3: So but but I think we probably all agreed there's

1761
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 3: probably a decent sized chance that he going to play

1762
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: center this year. At some point that injuries or performance

1763
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 3: are going to change, and they're going to say he's

1764
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 3: played some games, it's not going.

1765
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 2: To be ideal. It's who plays left guard? Now, you know,

1766
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 2: maybe it's.

1767
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 4: Maybe it is cool strange.

1768
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 12: I just feel like we're you know, if Will Campbell

1769
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 12: and I know people have mixed reviews about Will Campbell

1770
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 12: and you can everyone can have their their take on that.

1771
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 12: But if Will Campbell and Jared Wilson were moving in

1772
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 12: the other direction, as in a negative direction, that this

1773
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 12: wasn't working out and they whiffed again on two offensive

1774
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 12: linemen in the draft, like that would be a huge

1775
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 12: talking point. Now we've put it in the spin cycle

1776
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 12: where now all of a sudden, having inexperience as the

1777
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 12: talking point, and it's like to me that finding these

1778
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 12: linemen in the draft is a huge positive.

1779
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 5: Well, it's at least I'm just going to take the

1780
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 5: bold stance and waiting to see him play.

1781
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 2: I know, but at least at this point in camp,

1782
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: we're not saying nobody's doing well, so we might as

1783
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: well play the young guys. But like, the young guys

1784
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 2: are obviously better than the older guys.

1785
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 5: But I don't think there's any argument. I don't think

1786
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 5: you can argue with when they're going up.

1787
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 8: Against Milton Williams and Christian Barmore, like when Jared Wilson.

1788
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 5: I've seen some days where they look like they're non competitive.

1789
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 5: I've seen some days where they look good.

1790
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 8: Okay, I've seen both.

1791
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 5: I think Fred's comments at the beginning of practice today

1792
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 5: about a chase on to me is accurate.

1793
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: He's had some good rep.

1794
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 5: More often than not those guys on the edge of

1795
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 5: given Will Campbell fits. So some days I like what

1796
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 5: I see, some days I don't. I'm gonna wait to

1797
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 5: see what happens over the balance of the season before

1798
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 5: I just declare victory. That's all.

1799
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 8: I just like these guys here, and that will be.

1800
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 5: Tomorrow's practice, I know. But we're just gonna wait.

1801
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: And we got a very very good inducation last year

1802
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 2: from the joints.

1803
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 5: I'm not expecting that. I'm not expecting a train wreck

1804
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 5: like we saw last year because I don't think Washington

1805
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 5: is anywhere near as talent as Philadelphia.

1806
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 12: I have a lot of reservations about the offensive line too,

1807
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 12: so I'm not I'm just coming at it from the

1808
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 12: point of like I've like I I've seen a lot

1809
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 12: of young linemen come through here over the last handful

1810
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 12: of years that have not been able to hold their

1811
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 12: own in these practices, Like I don't think Colt ever

1812
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 12: looked the part and at any point, and I think

1813
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 12: Jared Wilson already looks better than cold Strange.

1814
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 5: I wouldn't argue with that. So I just that to

1815
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 5: me is we're moving in the right direction. I think

1816
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 5: col Strange is a threat away from being like a

1817
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 5: cut he.

1818
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 3: Could and I think that, I mean Tavin's point, it's

1819
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 3: not just about this year too, it's about like taking

1820
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 3: the long term view. And we talked earlier about some

1821
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 3: of the positions that maybe they couldn't quite get to

1822
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 3: or they had contracts that they weren't ready to get

1823
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 3: out of just yet.

1824
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 4: So it's about how does it all fit together next

1825
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 4: year too.

1826
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure that Mike Rabel would tell you

1827
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to turn this thing over into my

1828
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 3: team in one year for.

1829
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:39,879
Speaker 2: Not making the playoffs.

1830
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 5: For Rabel, it's year one, right, you know, right, And

1831
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 5: that's where I would say, you know, just let it

1832
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 5: unfold a little, yeah, Like, don't know, like everything has

1833
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 5: to be about like the playoffs this year, you know.

1834
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 5: But back to the way we started this withs like

1835
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 5: things that grind your gears, like why does everybody have

1836
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 5: to say, like, well, they have to do this and

1837
01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 5: they have to do that, you know, and they need

1838
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 5: to be like I heard my guy yesterday, like they

1839
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 5: need to It's year two of Drake May and Mike

1840
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 5: and Tony, Like, you have to have this level of

1841
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 5: an offense. You have to be winning nine or ten

1842
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 5: get like, no, you don't. You have to be improved, right,

1843
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 5: show signs of improvement, be on the right path, be

1844
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 5: a better team as the season goes on. I don't

1845
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 5: know what that's gonna translate to, but I'm not gonna

1846
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 5: just pull the plug on the whole thing if all

1847
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 5: of a sudden they only win six games or seven

1848
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 5: games instead of eleven, Right, I'm not just gonna pencil

1849
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 5: in wins and say, well, damn it, they underachieved if

1850
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 5: they don't hit it.

1851
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean in Tevin's point too, like there's a

1852
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 3: lot of excitement for me about what could possibly be

1853
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 3: with with Campbell and Wilson, but there's also that feeling

1854
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 3: on the other side with the veterans of like how

1855
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 3: how many games and snaps.

1856
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 4: Can we squeeze out? Of Morgan Moses.

1857
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 3: How many snaps can we squeeze out of Garrett Bradberry

1858
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 3: that you know.

1859
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,799
Speaker 5: Straps are gonna squeeze out of Carlton Davis.

1860
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's that's that's a whole other side of

1861
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 4: the ball.

1862
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 3: But at least with those guys, I feel like if

1863
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 3: we see some downs that they still have enough talent

1864
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 3: to feel like they're gonna improve. Whereas the right side

1865
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 3: of the line are we tread and water a little bit?

1866
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 3: And maybe is that why they're still kind of looking

1867
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 3: like we still don't have the long term answer at

1868
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 3: right tackle, no matter how much we like the potential

1869
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 3: of the left side.

1870
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 18: Oh, long term, absolutely, that's the case's point the best.

1871
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, I guess I'm we're coming full circle here, Like

1872
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 12: what Paul said about like why does it have to

1873
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 12: be at this certain level. I just feel like there's

1874
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 12: this like everybody's in a rush to get this team

1875
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 12: back into contention.

1876
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 8: And I get that.

1877
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 12: I get we all want them to win and be better,

1878
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 12: like we all want that, but it's gonna take time

1879
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 12: and it's a process. And the evaluation in my mind

1880
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 12: of Campbell and Wilson is significantly better than the process

1881
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 12: of like Cole Strange and Leyden Robinson and some of

1882
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 12: the other guys that they've drafted over the last couple

1883
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 12: of years where it was like right out of the gate,

1884
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 12: it was like, I don't know about this, Like I

1885
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 12: don't know the Cole Strange first round is not looking

1886
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 12: like that guy's the first round talent.

1887
01:23:59,520 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: You know.

1888
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 12: I don't have those reservations about these rookies, like we'll

1889
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 12: see what they look like in real games and all

1890
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 12: that kind of stuff, and they're going to have their lumps.

1891
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 12: But like the whole offensive line, like I don't want

1892
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 12: it to make it sound like I think they're all

1893
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 12: a sudden going to have the Eagles offensive line like

1894
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 12: pass protection.

1895
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:16,919
Speaker 5: If you didn't say that pass.

1896
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 12: Protection one through five is is a concert All five

1897
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,879
Speaker 12: guys I think have pass protection concerns.

1898
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 5: And that's basically all I'm saying. You summed up my

1899
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 5: whole argument right there.

1900
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 8: Right Like all five of them do run blocking.

1901
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 12: I actually think they're going to be pretty good at

1902
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 12: m but really all of them are are coming at

1903
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 12: it from a pass protection being the weaker part of

1904
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 12: their games. So it's a question of can they mask it,

1905
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 12: can they figure.

1906
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 3: It out, which is so connected to Drake's development and

1907
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 3: some of those critical moments.

1908
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 2: Yep, let's get back to the hot line. Eight five

1909
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 2: to five, pass five hundred. Jerry says he's on the

1910
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: road to Foxborough. What's up, Jerry, Hello, Jerry, Hey.

1911
01:24:55,200 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 10: Guys, Yeah, hey lad, First time caller, long time listener.

1912
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 10: I've been watching these guys for over fifty years. I

1913
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 10: have seen the ugly, the bad, the good, and kind

1914
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 10: of back to the ugly, and so I'm kind of

1915
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 10: heartened that agree, uh whatever, It's going to take a while,

1916
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 10: and I have the patience to stick with it. But

1917
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 10: my question twofold one is hopefully when I'm up there,

1918
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 10: because I'm on my way fulfilling a bucket list, headed

1919
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 10: headed to Foxborough right now from Virginia to catch a game,

1920
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 10: uh not real, I mean the preseason, but practice anyway.

1921
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 10: And so so my thoughts were looking at the group

1922
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 10: we've got now, having Josh back, I see with Diggs

1923
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 10: and Douglas kind of a kind of that that middle

1924
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 10: games wide open now if we just get somebody to

1925
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,480
Speaker 10: push it deep. Uh, and couple that with Trevion Henderson

1926
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 10: as a James White kind of role hit those wheel routes.

1927
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 10: I'm I'm pretty darned positive on where we're headed right now,

1928
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 10: So just kind of your thoughts on that. And then lastly,

1929
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 10: any chance you guys are going to be hanging around

1930
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 10: where I can flat palms with y' all because I'd

1931
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 10: love to meet you guys.

1932
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 2: Well you go. Are you going to be here tomorrow?

1933
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm com Yeah, I'm on the road right.

1934
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 5: Now to row after the show. We got to do

1935
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 5: the show first row. Yeah, I'll be in the well,

1936
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 5: I'll be in the media tent.

1937
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: All right, we'll walk round. But Jerry, thanks for calling

1938
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 2: for the first time. I appreciate the call.

1939
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 12: Is his concern in terms of the past other than

1940
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 12: the past protection that we just talked about. Enough, Yeah,

1941
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,879
Speaker 12: twenty yard plus yards down the field, Like who who's

1942
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 12: threatening in that area of the field. That's probably why

1943
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 12: I'm holding out hope for Javon Baker, because he's like

1944
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 12: one of the few guys on the team that I

1945
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 12: see that might have the talent, you know, the ability

1946
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 12: to do that. But to go back to your thing, Fred,

1947
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 12: like you can only throw the ball within twenty yards

1948
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 12: of the line of scrimmage, You're gonna be easy to defend.

1949
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know how any of this is going

1950
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 2: to work out, But would you say, right now, Drake

1951
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: has more weapons than he did last year.

1952
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean even just digs the pontics.

1953
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I would say yes, I am.

1954
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 3: And plus Douglas has looked improved, and Booty looks like

1955
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 3: he's continued to improve a little bit. And Kyle Williams

1956
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 3: is a little bit of an unknown at this point.

1957
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 5: And I would say Diggs and Henderson look like parts

1958
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 5: of the parts of the passing game that they didn't

1959
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 5: have last year.

1960
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just.

1961
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 12: Would be a bummer, Like he throws such a pretty

1962
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 12: go ball that like to not have Drake's ability to

1963
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 12: throw deep as part of the offense, not because of Drake,

1964
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 12: but because they don't really have anybody.

1965
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 2: That if guys get opened deep, it'll be by scheme,

1966
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 2: not just because somebody just is a flat burner and

1967
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: beat their man.

1968
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, I think there's gonna be you know,

1969
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 3: throw it up to mac hollins.

1970
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 4: That's going to be a play. I'm hoping that Booty

1971
01:27:58,560 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 4: can can deliver some of.

1972
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,520
Speaker 2: Those it for big things from mccollins.

1973
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 3: I think He's probably going to play a bigger role

1974
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 3: than all of us anticipated.

1975
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 2: When the shredded shirt. Yeah drives quicker, Yeah drives quicker

1976
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: and use it.

1977
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, that would annoy me.

1978
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 4: I mean that that was funny.

1979
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 3: But I just thought everything he said yesterday about working

1980
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: with the young guys, talking about trading plays, I'll be

1981
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 3: the quarterback saying the plays between him and Digs, and

1982
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 3: I didn't really expect Diggs to show as much leadership

1983
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: and just everything that Digs has done.

1984
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: Is that one of the most pleasant surprises of CAMPCI

1985
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 2: for me fact that from day one he's been out there.

1986
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 4: For me personally. Absolutely, Yeah.

1987
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but those two guys, I think I think those

1988
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 3: two guys have really changed the dynamic of that room,

1989
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 3: at least from what we see.

1990
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 4: We're not in the room.

1991
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 3: I can't tell you exactly, but the way that mac

1992
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 3: Collins continues to work with.

1993
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 24: Those guys, you get like a six foot twelve year

1994
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 24: old who throw his gas and he's throwing curve after

1995
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 24: curve after curve and behind.

1996
01:28:58,520 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 8: Spinning it up there, Paul.

1997
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 3: But between Diggs, who's an NFL superstar, and you know

1998
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 3: just how it just moves different and has the success

1999
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 3: to a guy like Mac Collins who's kicked around the

2000
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 3: league a little bit, who knows what it's like to

2001
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 3: be on the bubble and try to have to earn

2002
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 3: a role, and you know, successfully contributed last year to

2003
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 3: a really good Bills team. Like I just think it's

2004
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 3: a really good two veterans that they brought in that

2005
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 3: have helped some of these guys like Javon Baker have.

2006
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 4: A pretty solid couple of days here.

2007
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 3: Or you know, we'll see with Polk in a couple

2008
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 3: of days as he gets on track if he's able

2009
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 3: to do the same.

2010
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 4: But I think those guys that both had an impact already.

2011
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 2: Todd's in North Carolina.

2012
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,480
Speaker 1: Hey Todd, Hey guys.

2013
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 13: Who was kind of a heated discussion earlier. I'm glad

2014
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 13: that the things calm down. A couple of Colors statement.

2015
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 4: Before me, scary time.

2016
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 13: My question is not from your time covering the team,

2017
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 13: but some of your time following the team. What year

2018
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 13: does this feel the most like? For me? It's nineteen

2019
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 13: ninety seven, Carols.

2020
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 7: First year.

2021
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 13: We kind of have a defense there, We got our QB,

2022
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 13: some weapons, and hopefully Drake takes the next step. I'm

2023
01:29:58,840 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 13: not going to say he's blent.

2024
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 5: So do you think this team reminds you of a

2025
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 5: team coming off a Super Bowl appearance?

2026
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, but.

2027
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 13: They only went ten and six and they got out

2028
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 13: in the first round. I don't even I don't. I

2029
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 13: think ten wins is an absolute ceiling for this year,

2030
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 13: but it's possible, and I kind of like.

2031
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 5: And ten wins in ninety seven was a disappointment they

2032
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 5: got They won eleven the previous year and went to

2033
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. Letso was in his.

2034
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 17: Prime and Carol's first year.

2035
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 5: Let's was a two time pro bowler at that time.

2036
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 5: Drake May is just trying to sort of get established.

2037
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 5: I know, I'm going to see nineteen ninety four.

2038
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, I got I believe in the coach,

2039
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 3: We've got the quarterback.

2040
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 4: I feel good about where the defense is headed. I

2041
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 4: don't know if they have enough overall.

2042
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 5: Ninety four would be you know, I think I understand

2043
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 5: your your analogy, Mike.

2044
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 4: I like I appreciate that, Paul, because that's your year.

2045
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 5: I like that. I like the analogy, But you got

2046
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 5: some of the pieces.

2047
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 4: You don't know how it's gonna all come together.

2048
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 5: I mean, they were they were a very very good

2049
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 5: team in ninety six. Everybody knew it. Like it wasn't like,

2050
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 5: oh if this goes right and that goes right. Everybody

2051
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 5: knew they were good in ninety six. Everybody knew they

2052
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 5: were good in ninety seven. Now everybody felt Denver was better,

2053
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 5: and they were and they got lucky in ninety six

2054
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 5: that the Broncos got knocked out. And yeah, you know,

2055
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 5: I mean, even though I'm a Drew guide, I can

2056
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 5: admit that they would they wouldn't have gone to Denver

2057
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 5: and won the AFC Championship game. But three bad year,

2058
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 5: you know, bad foot, bad caddy.

2059
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,679
Speaker 3: But you're starting to put the pieces into place, and

2060
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 3: how's it all going to come together?

2061
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 4: That's the big question right now.

2062
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 12: I feel like I don't go that far back in

2063
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 12: my memory bank, but like for my time covering the team,

2064
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 12: like I still feel like this feels the most like

2065
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 12: twenty one, where they had this big free agency class,

2066
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 12: good to you know.

2067
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:44,759
Speaker 8: The draft class.

2068
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 12: You have some players you're hopeful for, you have this

2069
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 12: young quarterback that you're hopeful for but not proven yet,

2070
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 12: and like that's how I still what is going on here?

2071
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, you know we're in a toy store, so

2072
01:31:59,040 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 5: people just can coming.

2073
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 6: Guy.

2074
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 5: I was in the middle of a.

2075
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 4: Take you hey, Matisa, what are you wearing?

2076
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 2: Matist Bowman here? You know him from the Madden simulation broadcast?

2077
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 2: Why are you here?

2078
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2079
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 4: What the hell are you doing?

2080
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 2: I had to defend my honor after two years with

2081
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 2: the new Patriots Unfiltered shirt.

2082
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 3: Okay, and there it is, Wow party in the back,

2083
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 3: presented by the.

2084
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 2: Cameras on you. Yeah, and you've got Patriots Unfiltered in

2085
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:34,600
Speaker 2: the bat there you go. Okay, So these are the

2086
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 2: new T shirts right in we'll do trivia. So you

2087
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 2: o T shirts too? Is that right?

2088
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 11: Matis got five hundred of them, so we'll send him

2089
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 11: out to everybody.

2090
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right?

2091
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 4: Can I.

2092
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:51,759
Speaker 2: You can wear more than.

2093
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 4: One's not gonna shrink up on you. Okay, that's good.

2094
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's that one over there medium.

2095
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 2: That's an Excel Excel would it be? Probably the medium? Now? No, no, no.

2096
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 5: I have cut down the largest though.

2097
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 3: Who could we maybe get a few of those and

2098
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,759
Speaker 3: go out into the crowd tomorrow perhaps and five hundred

2099
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 3: like p U Pack who just called in, will give

2100
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 3: them one?

2101
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 8: Five hundred is going to be now you give a

2102
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 8: T shirt.

2103
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,759
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, great, so now we finally have T shirts.

2104
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 2: So when we do these things we can we can

2105
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 2: fulfill them.

2106
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 4: Why don't you go you want to strut in front

2107
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 4: of the camera. You're gonna do like the catwalk, you know?

2108
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, cool, excellent, put one on my desk for large.

2109
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 1: Got you.

2110
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 5: Sure you don't want an extra? It's okay for you

2111
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 5: to make fun of me.

2112
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm doing it the other sideway, I said, medium, medium, medium, Paul, Yeah.

2113
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 5: I heard you.

2114
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 2: What's the matter with you?

2115
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 4: Not a problem you're doing.

2116
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 2: Come on? I feel like you know, you got things

2117
01:33:58,720 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 2: in your.

2118
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 4: Mind and his money on his mind.

2119
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 5: The car no work, like we got stuff to do.

2120
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 5: Get it right?

2121
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well let's tickets. He just walks out.

2122
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 3: Well, had he had made work, I told him to

2123
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 3: get out, okay, go ahead, okay, all right.

2124
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 2: So we got new T shirts.

2125
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 3: Finally, exciting final if you could wear something good quality,

2126
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 3: it looked good.

2127
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's on the show one or two.

2128
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 2: We should Yeah.

2129
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's all you.

2130
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 4: By by a total Evan doesn't want to represent.

2131
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 8: I don't wear logos.

2132
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 5: WHOA just vines exactly.

2133
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 2: He'll do like a million hits for nothing, but he

2134
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:45,759
Speaker 2: won't wear the logo of a sponsor.

2135
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 5: I don't need a logo on my chest.

2136
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 4: He's available, Yeah, he want Patriot Takes.

2137
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 2: David Main writes in I got a question for Evan

2138
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 2: that can't wait until Catch twenty two. By the way,

2139
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 2: when is Catch twenty two Thursday?

2140
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 8: Two to four Thursday? Too busy?

2141
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 2: I know that the newsletter that went out last week

2142
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 2: at the wrong time.

2143
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 12: I know we're trying to figure out like a permanent

2144
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 12: time with like you know, football schedule and everything. It's

2145
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 12: trying to lock in Barth's like, you know, bar all

2146
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 12: over the sports of mister popular. So it's hard to.

2147
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 3: You know, I just say real quick, I haven't never

2148
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 3: seen a human being more like in their element than

2149
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 3: Alex Barth figuring out who was on the white team

2150
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 3: and who was on the blue team in the in

2151
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 3: stadium and then and then he is out like the

2152
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 3: worst way to running over to people, and then like

2153
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 3: and then he posted and I was like, this is

2154
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,879
Speaker 3: what he came up with, and it was you couldn't

2155
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 3: tell you who anybody was, but he was so locked

2156
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 3: in on it, like he's got to get the team right,

2157
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 3: And I'm like, Alex, you know if you just wait,

2158
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 3: they're going to line up in the starting eleven and

2159
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 3: then you just have it right there instead of trying to,

2160
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 3: you know, navigate through all the lines.

2161
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,680
Speaker 5: So I didn't get to witness that you guys were

2162
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 5: you guys were too good to hang out with. Fred

2163
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 5: and I.

2164
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 4: We just said we were up in the red level.

2165
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 5: You know you weren't.

2166
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:57,679
Speaker 4: I don't know colors.

2167
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 5: And the only time that I see Alex maybe more

2168
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 5: excited is when he's trying to determine whether or not

2169
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 5: a field goal was.

2170
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 4: Going right, asking other people would you have? Would would

2171
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 4: you have?

2172
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 5: Like they run over with baited breath to get the line,

2173
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 5: and I'm just like, it's like watching it, it was

2174
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 5: kind of hard to tell. It looked like you made it.

2175
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:18,719
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe he didn't.

2176
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 8: A kicker competition is the best thing that's.

2177
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Speaker 2: I think we should video Barth and Evans sitting down

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Speaker 2: at one of those electric football games and the bickering

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01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 2: that would go on between the two of them playing

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01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 2: against each other.

2181
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:33,640
Speaker 5: You're going to run that play against that?

2182
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 2: Fine, right? Good good luck. I think that would be that.

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01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 8: He's going into a six month, Like, what are you doing?

2184
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 2: Not too long? Maybe just like a ten minute game.

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01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 4: Bar it's like punting on second down. I just wanted

2186
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 4: to see the punter. I just I couldn't wait. I

2187
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 4: couldn't wait till fourth down.

2188
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 5: I'm like a little piece of felt.

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01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that would be fun, the two of

2190
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 2: them going at it at Electric Football. Anyway, this is

2191
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 2: the question that David Mayne has. The other Dave Rabel

2192
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 2: talked about not throwing to a receiver that's being covered

2193
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,719
Speaker 2: by a corner that's flat footed. What does that mean?

2194
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 3: Well, he was talking specifically the last play of the

2195
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 3: scrimmage where Drake threw it to Alex Austin who was

2196
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 3: just kind of standing there waiting on it rather than

2197
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 3: bailing out, you know, if he was in dropping out

2198
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 3: its own in which case, yeah, rifle it to him.

2199
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 3: But if he's just standing flat footed, he's going to

2200
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 3: see the ball throwing and go right to it and sitting.

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01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 2: Yes, it doesn't mean that his feet are flat.

2202
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 4: No, No, he's got great arches arch support.

2203
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 5: My feet couldn't descript you very flat feet.

2204
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 2: You can't go in the army.

2205
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 5: Well that's what they said.

2206
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 4: But he'd do it if he does.

2207
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 5: As the doctor said to my mother when my mother

2208
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 5: made that comment, well I keep him out of the

2209
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 5: draft anyway, And the doctor said, well, they're not that flat.

2210
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 4: You know, because he could have gone to Nam.

2211
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 5: This guy, he wouldn't even know what we're talking about.

2212
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 5: The draft. He's talking about the draft. One draft I

2213
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:57,799
Speaker 5: saw Will Campbell went.

2214
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 16: There.

2215
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 12: You know, I'm going to keep defending the wall with

2216
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 12: Will Campbell and my guy.

2217
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 2: You should be good.

2218
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 5: I don't really, I don't care, and it's just to

2219
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 5: be just to be clear, I just want to watch

2220
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 5: them play. I'm not telling you that he can't justice practice.

2221
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 5: I had a guy Friday night text me, one of

2222
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 5: my buddies. Friday night. I was Will Campbell tonight. I

2223
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 5: was like, it was practice. I don't like leave me alone.

2224
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,480
Speaker 5: I literally text, leave me alone.

2225
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:29,839
Speaker 8: It's practice.

2226
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 2: Dave also says, how can I watch the preseason games

2227
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 2: on TV? I live locally, but last year they weren't televised,

2228
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know what locally means to you. But

2229
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 2: if you live in the Boston or Providence market.

2230
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 5: They're absolutely on TV.

2231
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

2232
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Four w b Z.

2233
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 2: Now if he's in Maine, but it's got to be

2234
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 2: a yeah, yeah, they have to have some kind of affiliate.

2235
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 8: Technically New England, right, yeah, you're part of New England.

2236
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's the matter.

2237
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 5: Everybody's looking at me picking up the game.

2238
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 2: So uh check your local listings. As they say, let's

2239
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 2: go to the phones. We'll start with Mark in Connecticut. Hey, Mark,

2240
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 2: Hey guys, I was doing today, Hi, Mark, I was

2241
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:19,759
Speaker 2: waiting great.

2242
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,600
Speaker 16: I was at a practice today and what I'd like

2243
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 16: to see is I'd like to see get some run

2244
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 16: with the with the top group. I like his explosiveness,

2245
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,679
Speaker 16: I like his foot work. I just like to see

2246
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 16: them give him a chance with the top team.

2247
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 8: I'm with you, Mark, We're still holding down.

2248
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 12: We still have property on Chisholm Island, like okay, he's

2249
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,719
Speaker 12: a little little shack there, and we have his little

2250
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 12: little house on larryon Larison Island.

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01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 5: More has he I've seen more from Larison has here

2252
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 5: reps No, okay, so we're not going to see more.

2253
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,560
Speaker 5: I think that thank you for being honest.

2254
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 12: Looks great against there. I think he's I think he's

2255
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 12: got great like his he's got all of the makings

2256
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 12: of a of a McDaniel slot. He's got the quickness,

2257
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 12: he's got the jitterbug, he's got the first level separation, like, he's.

2258
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 8: Got all of those tools.

2259
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 12: But like a lot of these guys that played that

2260
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 12: role over the years, even here, like it might take

2261
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 12: a few years for it to click. If it's going

2262
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:26,639
Speaker 12: to click, Like, I don't think he's one of those

2263
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 12: guys that's going to contribute as a rookie. It might

2264
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,679
Speaker 12: be more like an Edelman Welker type of track where

2265
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:35,639
Speaker 12: he's on the practice squad. He's a fringe roster player.

2266
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 12: Troy Right, it takes the year or two, but then

2267
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:40,600
Speaker 12: all of a sudden, the game rounds out and he

2268
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 12: gets a little bit bigger and a little bit faster

2269
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 12: and boom.

2270
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,799
Speaker 2: Ye Anthony Boston, what's up, Anthony?

2271
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 8: The drop in the insane in practice? That's not good.

2272
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 25: Anthony warn that he got injured in the scrimage. But

2273
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 25: I don't think he's seen any fields this game up.

2274
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 25: And it's really weird considering johsh for Daniels coming in,

2275
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 25: he had a really productive season with them. I just

2276
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 25: wanted to know about that.

2277
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 5: He's he's he's.

2278
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 2: Had some reps. Reps Ken Kendrick not a lot, a lot, okay,

2279
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 2: when he's called.

2280
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 5: But I agree with Anthony, I don't. I've been a

2281
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 5: little surprised that he hasn't gotten really many front line reps.

2282
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 5: He's been with the two.

2283
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 25: Throughout the trade block with Ugger and Strange, and I

2284
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 25: think he could be gone.

2285
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 12: So yeah, I think that he continues to when he

2286
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 12: does practice. He hasn't been practicing the line what is

2287
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 12: the package with trading? He's saying, Dugger and Strange and

2288
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 12: Born you could get something for the hot names right

2289
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 12: now on the trade block. But with Kendrick Bourne, every

2290
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 12: time that he has practiced, it just feels like he's

2291
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 12: with a group that he's better than, Like, you know,

2292
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 12: like he's with like the Chisholms and the h you know,

2293
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 12: Baker Polk, John Giles, Like he's with that group, and

2294
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 12: you just keep looking over on that side of the

2295
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 12: field of the practice fields with Josh Dobbs, and like

2296
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 12: Kenrickbourn's over there.

2297
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 2: No, I agree with that he hasn't been running with

2298
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 2: the ones, but like when he does get thrown his way,

2299
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 2: he looks pretty good.

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01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 3: Saw a couple of those early in camp. I mean,

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01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 3: I Phil lately he's tapered off. I haven't seen many

2302
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 3: of those lately.

2303
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 5: But I can't decide. If they just know what he is,

2304
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,639
Speaker 5: then they have a thought in mind for him, yep.

2305
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 5: Or he's just going, he's on his way out, he's out. Yeah,

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01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 5: it's two diametrically opposite things. But I don't he has

2307
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 5: not gotten any significant reps. And I agree with Evan.

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01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 5: When he's playing, he's playing with guys that he should

2309
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:36,520
Speaker 5: be dominating.

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01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 12: He just looks out of place, Like I'm Mike Kenner

2311
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 12: bourn as an NFL receiver. I'm not sure these guys

2312
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 12: he's playing with their NFL players.

2313
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 5: And more importantly, going against yeah, right right, Like it's secondary,

2314
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 5: you know, guys that are not going to end up

2315
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 5: being in the league. He should be getting open against those.

2316
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 3: Guys eight three, nine with a dash of thirteen and

2317
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 3: we'll see about eighty.

2318
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 4: And that's to me, that's what you're probably going in

2319
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 4: the season.

2320
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:04,759
Speaker 2: And with over there, he's like Bill Belichick.

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01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 8: Phill is the numbers guy.

2322
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 2: Question for Evan and Paul, how special do you guys

2323
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:12,640
Speaker 2: feel being Onduce's training camp wrap up? There you go.

2324
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 2: You've gone from keeping track of Belichick's hoodies to having

2325
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 2: your own show. You've passed up Paul and he's been

2326
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 2: there for decades. But seriously, facts, I'll be yes the

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01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 2: Saints game this year. I hope you see you guys

2328
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,720
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Speaker 4: In the style, in style, that's fun. What's you guys

2339
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 4: gonna get down there? Hairful fun.

2340
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 12: I'm looking forward to the food the most I've heard

2341
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 12: the restaurants down there apparently top notch.

2342
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:20,679
Speaker 2: Josh in Atlanta. Everyone take a page out of Evans's

2343
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 2: book and allow the young lineman to marinate for a

2344
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 2: few months before making any sweeping proclamations.

2345
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 5: That's that's Fred's book, and that's Paul's book.

2346
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 2: I watched Barb give some valuable Will Campbell inside a

2347
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 2: ninety eight point five yesterday just for the fear mongering

2348
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 2: Felger to respond. So the kid isn't ready to be

2349
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 2: in an NFL tackle. It's the first week of August

2350
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 2: and we're talking about a twenty one year old first

2351
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 2: round pick that was the consensus best tackle in the draft.

2352
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,879
Speaker 2: Felger and his crony should be arrested for the damage

2353
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 2: they've done to Boston Sports media.

2354
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 8: Okay, we can.

2355
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 5: That's Fred's take. If you're going to go through the

2356
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 5: bumps and bruises, you might as well get the bumps

2357
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 5: and bruises over as quickly as you can. Now, I

2358
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 5: let them play and go through, you know, suffer through

2359
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 5: the peaks and valleys. That's I think. Friend's right.

2360
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 8: I just like.

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01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 12: I guess that is the piece of it to me

2362
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 12: that as has been grinding my gears is like we're

2363
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,679
Speaker 12: not allowing And I get it, it's not the media's

2364
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 12: job to allow grace, but like we're not like looking

2365
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 12: at it that way, you know what I'm saying, Like

2366
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 12: he was not going to look like Joe Thomas in

2367
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 12: his first training camp, like he wasn't going to look

2368
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 12: like a Hall of Fame left tackle ten practices into

2369
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 12: his NFL career. I'm sure none of them did.

2370
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 5: Joe Thomas probably didn't.

2371
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 12: Right, So, like, I get that, it's not our job.

2372
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 12: Our job is to tell you what's happening and to

2373
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 12: react to what's happening right now.

2374
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 8: I get that, But.

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01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 12: From a bigger picture sense, if we just take a

2376
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 12: step back and stake a step out of the training

2377
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 12: camp reaction roller coaster and just look at it and say,

2378
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 12: you know, he has shown positives as well that make

2379
01:45:57,920 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 12: me think that he can be an NFL left tackle,

2380
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 12: and I'm willing to ride it out with some of

2381
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 12: these other things instead of saying, you know, he's gotten

2382
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 12: beat by it in past protection a couple of times

2383
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 12: by Chase On and Kean White, so he can't play.

2384
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 12: And I'm not saying everybody's saying that. I'm just that's

2385
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 12: sort of where I'm at with it.

2386
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 5: From day one.

2387
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 2: Who do you who's this goes back poll? Because I don't, honestly,

2388
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to this. Who's looked better?

2389
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 2: Matt Light or Will Campbell Matt Light you think so

2390
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 2: I could, I wouldn't know.

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01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 5: I wouldn't know, and I and you know that I

2392
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 5: don't think Matt Light was you know, great shakes. I

2393
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 5: think he was a good left tackle, not great. But

2394
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 5: I'm talking about from he step went in immediately and

2395
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 5: showed that he was better than I mean again, it's

2396
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 5: the same kind of deal. Will Campbell was showing that

2397
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 5: he's better than the guys that were here. The Grant Williams,

2398
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 5: the Greg Robinson, Randalls, those are the guys that were here.

2399
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 5: Matt Light was better than them from day one, right,

2400
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 5: just like Will Campbell's better than Badarian Lowe from day one.

2401
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 5: I don't know what that means, yes, right? You know,

2402
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 5: like one of the comments the email just used, he

2403
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 5: was the consensus best tackle in the draft. That's a fact.

2404
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 5: Does that mean he's good or is he the best

2405
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 5: tackle and a bad tackle draft? I don't know. They

2406
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 5: haven't played yet. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like,

2407
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 5: telling me that a guy is the best tackle in

2408
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 5: a draft means that he's better than potentially guys that stink,

2409
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 5: or he's better than three guys that are also going

2410
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 5: to go to the Hall of Fame with Will Campbell. Right,

2411
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 5: those can mean drastically different things. We don't know. They

2412
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 5: haven't played. The kid in Kansas City evidently has played

2413
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 5: very well Josh Simmons, Right, I don't know if that

2414
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 5: means anything. He hasn't played either. Maybe he stinks, but

2415
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 5: we know that the left tackle that he's replacing kind

2416
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 5: of stunk. He was kind of mid as they.

2417
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 8: Say, was Joe tun playing tackle out of a pinch,

2418
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 8: But like.

2419
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 5: Right, no, no, no, I'm talking about the kid that

2420
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 5: Joe had to replace because they bt Mattia and more

2421
01:47:58,840 --> 01:47:59,839
Speaker 5: like all those injuries.

2422
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 12: I just I think that there was this expectation because

2423
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 12: he was the fourth overall pick, that he was going

2424
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 12: to come out of the gate and he was going

2425
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 12: to be a stud from day one. And I think

2426
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 12: he has had moments of really dominant run blocking, honestly.

2427
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 12: But the pass protection we knew coming into this with

2428
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:20,799
Speaker 12: all the We talked about this guy for six months,

2429
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 12: and we talked about the limitations and pass protection, the length,

2430
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,679
Speaker 12: and the issues that he had at the college level

2431
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 12: with the inside moves and like all we talked about

2432
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 12: all of this, and then he gets into his rookie

2433
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 12: mini training camp and he has some wartz and everybody

2434
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 12: is like, you know, freaking out about it.

2435
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 5: And it's like, that's a point that Mike Giardi was

2436
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 5: making again on the hill. We have a lot of

2437
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 5: good stuff going on the hill.

2438
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 12: He was exactly what I expected Will Campbell to look like.

2439
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 12: He's exactly met expectations.

2440
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 5: But Mike actually used the same phrasing that you just

2441
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 5: did yesterday when we were talking about it was like,

2442
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 5: this is like you talk to a lot of these

2443
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 5: people in the draft, and these are exactly the things

2444
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 5: that they talked about with Wilke Amble. These are the

2445
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 5: things that he struggled with and that there wasn't always

2446
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 5: the requisite talent that made it made him pay for it.

2447
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 5: But that inside move is not like something that just

2448
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 5: suddenly popped up. It's something that he had trouble with

2449
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 5: at times. It didn't always cost him, but at times

2450
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:18,559
Speaker 5: he struggled with that.

2451
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 4: What was this like with Isaiah Win this first training camp?

2452
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 5: This, Well, Will Campbell's better than Isaiah Win.

2453
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 4: Because that was bad. I don't remember anything.

2454
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 5: It wasn't that he was bad, but I don't remember

2455
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 5: him looking like he belonged to that hurt. Will Campbell

2456
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 5: to me looks like I don't watch Will Campbell and say,

2457
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 5: my god, you can't get by with him playing Isaiah Win.

2458
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 5: You ask Fred I had concerned about him and injuries.

2459
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 5: He was too small well Detour's achilles. In the preseason.

2460
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,719
Speaker 5: In the practice field, he was not anything great.

2461
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 2: James Pettig were the most interesting Patriots fan of the world.

2462
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 2: My words. I know running Drake is dangerous, but I

2463
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 2: wonder does it make it safer in the long term

2464
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 2: if he gets the runs in Games one and two,

2465
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 2: just to get the film up and put oppositions on

2466
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 2: the back foot, could the short term risk help with

2467
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 2: long term line security. Blitz at your own risk would

2468
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 2: not I think having.

2469
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 5: Wouldn't it the other way be just as valuable?

2470
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 2: Well, But I think having in the heads of defense

2471
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 2: that this guy can take off at any time is

2472
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 2: a good thing.

2473
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 5: That's his point. But I think you could also say,

2474
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 5: I keep it under the vest right and then all

2475
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 5: of a sudden you break it out when you need

2476
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 5: it and you catch him off guard. But I think

2477
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:33,639
Speaker 5: you can make an argument both sides.

2478
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:35,799
Speaker 12: I think he's showed enough as a rookie that people

2479
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 12: know he's mobile.

2480
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 5: They're absolutely going to have to be prepared for that.

2481
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:39,600
Speaker 4: I mean, that's my feeling right now.

2482
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 3: If I was going against him, keep him in the pocket,

2483
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:43,759
Speaker 3: don't let him scort out, make him read the field,

2484
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 3: and make them deliver tight throws consistently, and until he

2485
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 3: breaks out of that and shows he can.

2486
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 5: You know, like, if Jayden Daniels doesn't run but four

2487
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 5: or five times over the first five weeks of the season,

2488
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 5: do you think defensive coordinators.

2489
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 4: He's not running anymore.

2490
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 5: He's already established that he can run. And I think

2491
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 5: Drake May has two.

2492
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 12: Certainly as a scrambler, like they didn't run him by

2493
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 12: design a Ton last year, but as a scrambler absolutely.

2494
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 2: To the defense of the emailer, he hasn't run in

2495
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel's offense yet. So let's see what McDaniels has

2496
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 2: in store for him.

2497
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm optimistic about that because McDaniels had a great

2498
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 12: package for Cam Newton.

2499
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 4: Was in Miami right right that ft.

2500
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 12: I mean, the fact that we had never really seen

2501
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 12: him do that and then he kind of just like

2502
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 12: pulled like an option package out of his rear end

2503
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 12: was like pretty impressive in twenty twenty, so I assume

2504
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 12: it will be some similar things, like they're not going

2505
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 12: to run Drake right up the gut like they were

2506
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 12: doing with Cam Newton, but it was similar mechanics to it.

2507
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 2: Bryant in Denver has a big gripe with us at

2508
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 2: the end of the show last week with Claire all

2509
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 2: of a sudden, according to Paul, Bill Belichick is not

2510
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,640
Speaker 2: responsible for anything but five percent of the success of

2511
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 2: the Patriots dynasty. Brady is responsible for ninety five percent. Then,

2512
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that Evan showed his absolute ignorance by

2513
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 2: bashing Tony Dungee and stating that he was one of

2514
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 2: the worst NFL coaches. For the record, didn't say that

2515
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,719
Speaker 2: Don shul and Dan Marino were together for seventeen years

2516
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:13,599
Speaker 2: and never won a Super Bowl. Dan Marino was arguably

2517
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 2: one of the best quarterbacks in history, and Shula is

2518
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 2: arguably the best coach in history. Oh, by the way,

2519
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 2: Marino had great players around him and didn't win.

2520
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 8: I don't understand what that.

2521
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 2: Oh by the way, Bill replaced Bledsoe with Brady, much

2522
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 2: to the chagrin of fans like Paul, but only five

2523
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 2: percent and for the record, John Gruden took Dungee's established

2524
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 2: team and coasted to a Super Bowl over his old

2525
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 2: team Oakland, which he knew implicitly. I get it. Paul's

2526
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:42,320
Speaker 2: new stick is to be counter and controversial because Evan

2527
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 2: and Duce are more conciliatory and he's trying to spice

2528
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 2: up the show. But she's Paul, get back to Paul

2529
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 2: and leave the don Imus stephen A. Smith crap alone.

2530
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 8: It's not your style, yeah, Paul, So can I attack

2531
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:55,600
Speaker 8: some of this?

2532
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 2: Sure? Absolutely?

2533
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 8: Why rest of.

2534
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 5: All, don't be silly and take the fun back and

2535
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 5: forth that I had with Claire ninety five to five

2536
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 5: as being serious. So I'll just say I was being sarcastic.

2537
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 5: But you're trying to tell me that suggesting that Brady

2538
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 5: had more to do with the success than Belichick is

2539
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 5: like a stephen A. Smith controversial hot take that that's

2540
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 5: what I'm trying to do. I think that Brady was

2541
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 5: more vital to the success than Belichick was. I think

2542
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 5: time has sort of proven that. I think it's kind

2543
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 5: of a fact.

2544
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

2545
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 5: Like I don't think that that's a hot take at all.

2546
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 5: I don't. I'm not trying to be controversial. I'm not

2547
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 5: trying to be counter with Mike and Evan. Like one

2548
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 5: guy left won a title without the coach. The coach

2549
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 5: got to continue to coach without Brady In won four games.

2550
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

2551
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 5: I don't really think that that's all overly controversial. That's

2552
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:52,639
Speaker 5: what happened.

2553
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 2: YEP.

2554
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 5: I was long on the I thought it was a

2555
01:53:56,680 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 5: little bit more Belichick than Brady Camp than I was

2556
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 5: proven wrong. Then I had a change. What are you

2557
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:07,479
Speaker 5: going to do? And by the way, John John Schuler,

2558
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 5: by the way, one of the more overrated coaches in

2559
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:10,839
Speaker 5: all of sport, not just the NFL.

2560
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 2: Wow, there you go, and I like it too.

2561
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,680
Speaker 5: And a terrible defense, by the way, Miami had, Like

2562
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 5: I know, they had great receivers and Marino threw the

2563
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 5: ball over the place. Terrible defenses they had. When did

2564
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,759
Speaker 5: they have the seventies?

2565
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Okay, Well I was going to say something.

2566
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 2: I forgot what it was.

2567
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 5: I must have been vital.

2568
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jason and Foxborough on the hotline. What's up, Jason,

2569
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 2: Jason and Chiva.

2570
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 7: I happen to be in Foxboro.

2571
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 13: Oh nice, brought the kid down, thought.

2572
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 5: Chivas name, So you're all the way from Japan. He's

2573
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:49,879
Speaker 5: in Foxborough.

2574
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 7: No, no, no, I live in uh I live in New Hampshire.

2575
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 1: Oh now, I see.

2576
01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 7: So we just kids, finally old enough. I kind of

2577
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 7: appreciate practice. Not a ton a lot of running around,

2578
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 7: a lot of bothering people, but I got a lot

2579
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 7: out of it. Got a little way from deuce, you know.

2580
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's me, a little one.

2581
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:17,840
Speaker 7: Told you didn't use my picture in the contest.

2582
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 17: I sent that one in.

2583
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 7: Am I that ugly?

2584
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 4: That's anice question?

2585
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 5: They we'll do it in round two.

2586
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 7: All right, all right, all right.

2587
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 2: Well you haven't called it a long time, so I

2588
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 2: don't know if people, you know, our more recent viewers'll

2589
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 2: know who you are. But now that you've called in

2590
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 2: the next round, we'll make sure you better send that

2591
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 2: in again, because I don't know if she got all

2592
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 2: of them.

2593
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 7: It was in my my wife's mother's front yard in

2594
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 7: in Japan, in conadal We can go back every year, okay,

2595
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 7: But all right, you got that going for it to

2596
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 7: me more of.

2597
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 16: You, yep.

2598
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So everyone listen to Jason's voice, picture what he

2599
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 2: looks like, and he'll be in the next round. Thanks

2600
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 2: for the call, Jason, appreciate it, Jason and Chiba just

2601
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 2: to live in Japan. He actually taught English in Japan.

2602
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 5: Left hand stop that correct?

2603
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 2: Did I get that right?

2604
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 5: Paul Japan?

2605
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't he teach English the kids?

2606
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 5: It sounds sounds vaguely you know me, sounds vaguely familiar.

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01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 2: He was on the phone.

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01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 4: But I don't think I've heard of.

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01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,120
Speaker 3: It's nicely Wait today we get that when we walked

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01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 3: through the crowd and due we did.

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01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know who it is. Yeah, well, like.

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01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 4: I signed Clean Up Podcast.

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01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 12: You know, like nobody wants to talk to mege.

2614
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 4: They think you're going to drop. Well, if you can

2615
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 4: tell me what cover three is.

2616
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 3: But I signed Dennis the International Fan of the Year

2617
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 3: last year, I signed his International Fan of the your

2618
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 3: jersey pond. He wants to get you to sign it too,

2619
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 3: So maybe tomorrow you can head over there with a

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01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 3: sharpie and pp on a jersey so we can frame it,

2621
01:56:58,680 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 3: which is his plan.

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01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 8: So wants that is that your signature?

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01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 26: No?

2624
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 5: I usually just write the name.

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01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 2: Well, think about Paul Paul as when he does go

2626
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 2: out to the ninety it's the public that we have

2627
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 2: security with him.

2628
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 4: This guy, you got to hear things, Michael. They back

2629
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:21,160
Speaker 4: from I'm just coming bearing a Diepetsy, like, all right,

2630
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 4: come on over.

2631
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 26: I'm bearing a Yes you may, you may approach mister Yes,

2632
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:33,000
Speaker 26: what's just it?

2633
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 4: My child father Fred?

2634
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 2: That gives me an idea inspiration for a sitcom of

2635
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:47,440
Speaker 2: a podcast like us for a sports team, and like,

2636
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 2: you know, if you take it to the absurd, like,

2637
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 2: how would it be right?

2638
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 1: Right?

2639
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 14: Right?

2640
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 4: Groupie? Yeah, going on the road, it's crazy, groupie.

2641
01:57:58,560 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 5: You know what I'm talking about.

2642
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 8: Don't get me.

2643
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 5: I don't know your story.

2644
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 8: There's no story.

2645
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,520
Speaker 4: We'll talk offline. I just can't hear this one.

2646
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:15,880
Speaker 8: No Campbell, unbelievable.

2647
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 12: You guys, there's other people that are bad influences on

2648
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 12: the road and it's not me.

2649
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 5: Alright, start in trouble slinging the mud.

2650
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 2: Well, listen tomorrow live broadcast high above the practice fields

2651
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 2: here at your Lett Stadium for the joint practice against

2652
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 2: the Commanders. Be there, tune in. We'll tell you everything

2653
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 2: we see and you'll see some stuff too, as much

2654
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 2: as we can show you. Uh So, that'll be fun

2655
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 2: tomorrow and then what do we we have a wrap

2656
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 2: up show afterwards?

2657
01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 4: Wrap up back on you Thursday. Some wrap up thoughts

2658
01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 4: on game Friday.

2659
01:58:57,400 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 2: Yep, Yeprady Statue. It's a big week. Brady Statue six

2660
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 2: o'clock on Friday, six pm Eastern time.

2661
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 5: And we have to wait for that to end to

2662
01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 5: start the pregame show.

2663
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:10,280
Speaker 1: Sorry, bear with us.

2664
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 5: We're not going to have a concrete starting time for

2665
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 5: the pregame show on Friday.

2666
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 12: Games will be at the Brady Statue unveiling. I'm looking

2667
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 12: forward to it. It's gonna be fun.

2668
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 8: Takes some picks.

2669
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 2: I'll wait until everyone lives and I'll go out and

2670
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 2: look at it. I don't need to be there with

2671
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 2: the crowd.

2672
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 4: You need a quiet moment with it.

2673
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to the statue.

2674
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:31,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tom, they don't understand greatness like us.

2675
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 2: Tom.

2676
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 4: Don't kiss the statue. Fred, you have to.

2677
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

2678
01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. That's gonna be it for this edition

2679
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. Thanks for watching. We will see you

2680
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning nine forty five. Be there.

2681
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 4: Hey, this is Deuce. Thanks for tuning into the show.

2682
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:51,000
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Speaker 3: or Spotify. Also make sure you follow us on the

2685
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 3: New England Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and

2686
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:00,480
Speaker 3: everything else that we do here at the Patriots a Lot.

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02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 11: Patriots Catch twenty two will join Evan Lazar and Alex

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02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:12,040
Speaker 11: Bart every Thursday as they take a deep dive into

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02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:14,760
Speaker 11: the x of the o's trends and latest New England

2690
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 11: Patriots roster moves.

2691
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:19,280
Speaker 12: You're not usually into the numbers, Okay, we do this.

2692
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:21,040
Speaker 4: I'm into the tangible numbers.

2693
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 8: There's there's time here. Just give me.

2694
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:24,080
Speaker 4: There's the advantage of fact.

2695
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 8: You haven't know how I'm surprised an old man over here.

2696
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 8: I thought maybe I'd have to show you, like a

2697
02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 8: tutorial or something.

2698
02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 5: How am I old man?

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02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:34,120
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