WEBVTT - Hangin' with the 'Boys: Physical Without Thinking

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys blowing out of the backfield.

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<v Speaker 3>Next blowing down the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff where

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<v Speaker 2>Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Hunt.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Wednesday, and you're looking at a live look at

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<v Speaker 4>the Tostito Championship Plaza outside in front of the Ford Center.

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<v Speaker 3>Where it's hot, y'all. I'm lett telling y'all. I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 4>If you live in Texas, you get it. If you

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<v Speaker 4>don't live in Texas, it's hot. It's in the triple digits.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be in the triple digits all week. I

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<v Speaker 4>think this week we get up to like one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and five.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>We are without Shannon today, But that's okay because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sitting in the Captain syat until my left. I got

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<v Speaker 4>my boy Kurt on the phone, I got my boy

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<v Speaker 4>Nate in the back. We got Jazzo holding this down together.

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<v Speaker 4>We oh, wait a second, and then me can't forget me,

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<v Speaker 4>by Wingstop, where Flavor gets its.

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<v Speaker 5>We brand Today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Brandon Cooks and from Mike McCarthy's mouth, has had

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<v Speaker 4>one of the best camps thus far.

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<v Speaker 3>The old grizzled vet is showing up.

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<v Speaker 6>We camp.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't quite say that. I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't quite say that. We're just gonna say Brandon

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<v Speaker 4>Cook's having a good camp. We're not gonna say we

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<v Speaker 4>don't need CD lambing camp, who, by the way, still

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<v Speaker 4>not in camp, still doesn't have a deal done, still

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<v Speaker 4>holding out right now for the money that he is

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<v Speaker 4>looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>But before we get more.

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<v Speaker 4>Into that, the Cowboys had a preseason game the other day.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you guys talked about that on Monday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they're practicing again today, right, Nate's that practice joint practice today?

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<v Speaker 4>Connected correct, tomorrow, tomorrow, today, Today's happening.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, it's been happening about two or three minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, let's go to Nate Newton, who is

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<v Speaker 4>live boots on the ground in Oxnard. Uh So tell

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<v Speaker 4>us Nate, so far, what are some of the things

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<v Speaker 4>that you've seen in practice.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, first of all, we've we've asschu mon Doga from

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<v Speaker 5>six to six to three months, six weeks to three months.

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<v Speaker 5>So that puts uh the star as the first round pick.

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<v Speaker 5>He's he's launched in there, whether he earned it or not,

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<v Speaker 5>he's the man. And uh that Austin Richards. That puts

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<v Speaker 5>him out of tackle. Now they was gonna try to

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<v Speaker 5>let him battle for the inside guard tween guard, but

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<v Speaker 5>now that gives them first shot at being sweet and

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<v Speaker 5>tackle are some riches and that's that's the first thing

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<v Speaker 5>and the next thing that we need to soar up

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<v Speaker 5>our interior defensive line. They show improvement far as this

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<v Speaker 5>game versus the run, but no no pass rush. Nobody

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<v Speaker 5>has stepped up to give us some inside pressure except

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<v Speaker 5>Osa where who did not play. But that's our only

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<v Speaker 5>guy that can give us some pass rush. So they're

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<v Speaker 5>kind of looking for some guys to step up and

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<v Speaker 5>get into that pass rush. And and I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of why the Rams wanted to come to

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<v Speaker 5>us again, to get to get this good look and

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<v Speaker 5>to get this good work. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>things failed through for them because they had I think

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<v Speaker 5>it was somebody else there was one to scrimmage against.

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<v Speaker 5>But they fell through and they were the easier pickings.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, right down being right down the road.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's why it's the instantial off the interior defensive

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<v Speaker 5>line and they tackles for the offense. Mind that that's

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<v Speaker 5>the most important thing right now that I.

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<v Speaker 7>See you made it sound last time these two practice

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<v Speaker 7>that the Rams kind of controlled the line, is that right?

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<v Speaker 5>They did? They did? They they came at us man

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<v Speaker 5>uh with UH with Byron Young and Jerry burst outside linebackers.

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<v Speaker 5>They they they they rushed with some intensity, with some

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<v Speaker 5>with some fire in them, man. And then you go

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<v Speaker 5>to the inside of the defensive line, you know, Tyler

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<v Speaker 5>David Stevens Lineman showed to be pretty active, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and they got a good load uh And they got

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<v Speaker 5>Kobe Turner at the nose tackle. So they got some

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<v Speaker 5>guys that can get get after the get after the passer. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>And they seem to have been okay against the run

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<v Speaker 5>because we got when both teams got into the red

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<v Speaker 5>zone inside the this past game, nobody was successful. All

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<v Speaker 5>we had was field goal out of the field go

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<v Speaker 5>into that last little who right at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the But it's good work here. I mean, I wish

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<v Speaker 5>just could have stayed because to see it, because this

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<v Speaker 5>is some good work that the Rams and the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 5>are competing against one another.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the updates that we got from Mike McCarthy, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>we found out that Chill o'dok a broken big.

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<v Speaker 3>Toe is out for some time.

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<v Speaker 4>But also Mike McCarthy said, hey, we're gonna give the

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<v Speaker 4>rookie BB Cooper BB the first team REP. So now

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<v Speaker 4>you're talking about having Guide you and BB in that

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<v Speaker 4>first team rep. Operation Nate from your perspective, because I

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<v Speaker 4>know where I stand on this and I'll speak after Nate.

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<v Speaker 4>But yes, injury kind of propelled Guiding to be in

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<v Speaker 4>there full time. But do you think this isn't the

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<v Speaker 4>right way to go to Mike McCarthy A company, say hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>these are gonna be the guys that were going here.

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<v Speaker 4>We appreciate you, brock Hoffman, but I'm gonna give all

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<v Speaker 4>these young guys all the reps that they can leading

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<v Speaker 4>up into the season so that they can be ready

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<v Speaker 4>to go.

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<v Speaker 8>Come to.

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<v Speaker 5>Me and you talked about this joing OTAs, why are

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<v Speaker 5>we wasting time? Give these guys every possible rep that

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<v Speaker 5>you can that is feasible so your team can prosper,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because if this is your long haul, this

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<v Speaker 5>is game eight and beyond. Why not? Why wait? I

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<v Speaker 5>mean it looked kind of shaky for BB at the

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<v Speaker 5>beginning of training camp, but as his training camp has

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<v Speaker 5>been going on in progress and he's been better and

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<v Speaker 5>better with his snaps. I think he did okay in

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<v Speaker 5>the game with his snaps. I just first, second, and

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<v Speaker 5>third round pick suggestion. You know, in this new NFL,

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<v Speaker 5>why did they wait?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, why did they wait? Why did they wait?

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<v Speaker 9>That BB should have been even though.

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<v Speaker 5>His snap's running perfect, You should have been getting reps

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<v Speaker 5>with the back with the first team because this.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, because if Hoffman go down, now that's what

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<v Speaker 9>they realized. If Hoffman do go down.

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<v Speaker 5>That's who's running in the game. It's gonna be BB.

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<v Speaker 5>So you better give him all the reps he can get, so,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I by that from day one, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and doubt I'm gonna this needling kid is getting real.

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<v Speaker 5>Not not that Sam is hurt. I hate that, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad that Needland is getting all the rep's getting

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<v Speaker 5>he need him. This is these are seven or eight

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<v Speaker 5>cores guys every preseason game. We need to get better

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<v Speaker 5>so this team can have a chance to compete during

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<v Speaker 5>the season.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I totally agree with what that what that perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>because let's be honest, like, you drafted Guiding in the

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<v Speaker 4>first round for a reason. If if you thought that

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<v Speaker 4>Tuma or Awesome or somebody else could get the job done,

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<v Speaker 4>you would have went a different direction than the first round,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean that that would have set

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<v Speaker 4>you up for somewhere else. But you went this route

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<v Speaker 4>first round because you knew that there was there was

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<v Speaker 4>a major need there with the loss of Tyron Smith

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<v Speaker 4>that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Had to address.

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<v Speaker 4>So why play around with it, like like, let's not

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<v Speaker 4>let's not make this thing. You know what you have

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<v Speaker 4>in this player. You know why you drafted them that

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<v Speaker 4>early and and even and even uh, you know bbe

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<v Speaker 4>relatively high draft pick in the sense of of where

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<v Speaker 4>he went. These are guys that you took that high

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<v Speaker 4>in the draft for an absolute purpose. Then let them

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<v Speaker 4>fulfill that purpose. There's no long there's no need to

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<v Speaker 4>hold them back from something that's inevitable, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Like, you know what you have in brock Hoffin.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not saying that those guys can't get some

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<v Speaker 4>first team reps.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's not play with this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's not let's not make this a situation where there

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<v Speaker 4>is a there's a back and forth battle. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to sound like a hypcrit because I think

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<v Speaker 4>I've said before. You know, you know, being a guy

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<v Speaker 4>that's been around here, that you kind of want to

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<v Speaker 4>have an opportunity to keep your job or fight for

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<v Speaker 4>your job. That's cool, but you're gonna have to now fight.

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<v Speaker 3>From behind, right.

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<v Speaker 6>But let me ask you guys this.

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<v Speaker 7>So obviously those two guys BB and guy need to

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<v Speaker 7>get as many reps as they can, and you would

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<v Speaker 7>like to see some reps in the preseason game. McCarthy

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<v Speaker 7>though his history is he don't play as starters. How

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<v Speaker 7>do you think he's going to handle that house? Should

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<v Speaker 7>he handle that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well? This we're here against the Raiders. He should just

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<v Speaker 5>run him out there. I mean not not just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Dyke needs to play and BB needs to play. It

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<v Speaker 5>is exceptions to every rule. You know.

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<v Speaker 9>Once they get two series.

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<v Speaker 5>Bring them out of the game. But let them get

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<v Speaker 5>let them understand, I mean maybe a half. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>care how long you play me. I would play him

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<v Speaker 5>the whole game. But that's not the new NFL. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>two series, three series, and the and the coaches decide

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<v Speaker 5>that they gave brock hoffin last week, I think two

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<v Speaker 5>and a half three series. Then they brought him out

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<v Speaker 5>of the game and they started the rotation. Do the

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<v Speaker 5>same for this kid here Bb given two, three, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>four series, then get him out of the game if

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<v Speaker 5>that's how you feel. But if you want to leave, man,

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<v Speaker 5>I have no problem. You know, I have no problem.

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<v Speaker 7>Which you think Dak would prefer you do. Make sure

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<v Speaker 7>he's healthier, make sure you've got reps.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and and I think the more and this is

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<v Speaker 4>what anything we've said this before here on this show.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care what profession you're in. If you're a baker,

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<v Speaker 4>the more baking you do, the better you become. If

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<v Speaker 4>you're a carpenter, the more things that you build, the

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<v Speaker 4>better that you become. If you're whatever, the a surgeon,

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<v Speaker 4>the more surgeries you partake in, the better you become.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I don't understand why we get to football

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<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden, and I get it. This

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<v Speaker 4>is this is a physical game. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 4>it's a it's a hurting game. But I just don't

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<v Speaker 4>understand the the the reasoning behind, especially guys who lacked

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<v Speaker 4>the experience. I was a little bit shocked last week

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<v Speaker 4>when I was saw when I saw that Jaylen Tobert

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<v Speaker 4>had kind of got the veteran treatment a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 4>I was floored when I was like, wait, what, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>wait where is he? That blew my mind. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>he isn't done enough. There's no way you've convinced me

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<v Speaker 4>enough that you're good enough that you don't need or

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<v Speaker 4>deserve any of these preseason rep Those rights are reserved

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<v Speaker 4>for guys who hold out, right.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta be good enough to hold out, you see.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know why, Like we have the scientific

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<v Speaker 4>proof that anytime you want to get better in something

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<v Speaker 4>that it needs to be led by repetition.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we get the football and it's like, let's

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<v Speaker 3>not give him the repetition. It just doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>And then what's gonna happen is you're gonna just say okay,

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<v Speaker 4>because two or three series are fine, but as you know, Nate,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't get you know what I'm saying, Kurt, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't get. You don't get good to the second round

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<v Speaker 4>when you go in there. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>When you're in the bedroom, that first round for you

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<v Speaker 4>until you get that when you come back in with

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<v Speaker 4>that second.

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<v Speaker 3>Round, you knocking the wall.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. You gotta get a rhythm.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta get I get a chance to. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is why it's important to me from any perspective of

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<v Speaker 4>any position. Lineman, running back, quarterbacks, dbs. You hear it

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<v Speaker 4>a lot in baseball. It's you know, sometimes they don't

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<v Speaker 4>want that picture to cycle through that group again because

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<v Speaker 4>now if I'm a batter, I don't watch you two

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<v Speaker 4>or three goals now I didn't see. I got a rhythm,

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<v Speaker 4>I got those reps in. But in football, I gotta

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<v Speaker 4>be able to see this thing happen. I need to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to see that stunt again. I need I

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<v Speaker 4>need to be able to hear that to figure out

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<v Speaker 4>what this guy does, how does he play? Because if not,

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<v Speaker 4>then I'm gonna be shocked in the moment when when

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<v Speaker 4>when the live see when the live.

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<v Speaker 3>Bullets, beef are flying.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no blow the whistle, running again, line up,

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<v Speaker 4>run it again, line up, running again. There is no Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a preseason game, you know as not back

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<v Speaker 4>there red jerseys are on all that. No, when Miles

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<v Speaker 4>Garrett is standing over top of you, it matters. You

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<v Speaker 4>see what I'm saying, And I want to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to have. Now, will all the reps in the world

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<v Speaker 4>prepare you.

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<v Speaker 3>For Miles Garrett? I don't know, but I know that

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<v Speaker 3>you will be.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that you would be better suited to have

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<v Speaker 4>the reps and be ready for him then not have

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<v Speaker 4>the reps. And now everything that you see is new

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<v Speaker 4>to you. That's the part I just don't I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get why we get to this point and

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden we start pulling reps away that.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes sense for guys that need them.

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<v Speaker 4>You got anything, Nate, that was good unless you had something.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you got something, but that one. You know, Kurt,

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<v Speaker 4>you put in an interesting thing talking about reps, having

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<v Speaker 4>those live moments. You you found something in the athletic

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<v Speaker 4>that talked about they took a poll and I want

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<v Speaker 4>to I want to I want to hear what you

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<v Speaker 4>have to think about this Nate and YouTube Kurt the

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<v Speaker 4>Athletic took a poll and there are a few teams

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<v Speaker 4>that tackle in practice to the ground. Those teams are

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<v Speaker 4>the Chiefs, the Dolphins, the Lions, the Steelers. When you

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<v Speaker 4>think about those teams, you think about at least two

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<v Speaker 4>out of the three, two out of the four are

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<v Speaker 4>kind of blue collar, right, So Lions are still a

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<v Speaker 4>blue collar, you know. And then you think the Chiefs, well,

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<v Speaker 4>they doing something right they stay in the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the Dolphins kind of their new their new

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<v Speaker 4>found swinging their thing. I want to get you guys opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't answer now. We're gonna take a break. When we

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<v Speaker 4>come back. I want to hear your opinion on your

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<v Speaker 4>thoughts of tackling to the ground in practice. Does it hurt?

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<v Speaker 4>Does it help? Is it minutia? Should more teams do it?

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<v Speaker 3>It is Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Wednesday is mental health day for me, so

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta do my check ins. I didn't do it

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<v Speaker 4>to get into the show. But Kirk, where you're at?

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<v Speaker 4>How's your mentors outdidentals doing good?

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<v Speaker 6>Everything's uh going all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Hook Nate? What about you?

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<v Speaker 5>How's your mentors and dentals great, thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>Good good mentors are good. Starting a new job soon,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'll be getting new benefits. So once I get

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<v Speaker 4>that intact, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna attack that. I

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<v Speaker 4>told you I tipped. I tipped my wisdom tooth. So

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<v Speaker 4>once I get the new dentals, the new dental benefits,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go and I'll go and attack those things because

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<v Speaker 4>that's gonna be I don't want to pay that out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of I don't want to pay that out of pocket costs.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to pay that out of pocket.

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<v Speaker 4>The good thing is, and I know, Nate, you probably

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<v Speaker 4>use this, but one of the benefits at the NFL

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<v Speaker 4>still gives some of the former players that I do

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<v Speaker 4>get reimbursed. But I just don't want to come out

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<v Speaker 4>of the pocket with a couple of thousand dollars. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>just it's not killing me. Now I can go get

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<v Speaker 4>it done and then get reimbursed. It's not it's not painful,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't hurt. I just know that if I don't

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<v Speaker 4>get it done, you know it's gonna turn into that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm gonna just wait till these new benefits something

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<v Speaker 4>so I can keep some money in my pocket. With

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<v Speaker 4>that jazz, how's your mentals and dentals?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Jazz is coming out of her locks, and I've

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<v Speaker 4>told everybody that.

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<v Speaker 3>Breaking breaking. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, you know, I tried to do what we do

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<v Speaker 4>on this show, but I just didn't. Sorry, sorry, dang shoot,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't mean to do that, all right. I teased it

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<v Speaker 4>before we went in to break some football teams during

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<v Speaker 4>practice tackle to the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, they ranked them, and there was three teams that

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<v Speaker 7>did it they said often. There was one team that

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<v Speaker 7>did it very often, which is Steelers. I guess Mike Tomlin.

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<v Speaker 7>That's his thing. We're gonna get physical in practice.

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<v Speaker 3>And his quote was you can't box without sparring.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I think that's a great, great quote.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So, and you got to look at those four teams,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you mentioned them. Two were in the super

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<v Speaker 7>Bowl last year, and like you said, Steelers are known

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<v Speaker 7>for their toughness and Tomlin, especially with him as coaches

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<v Speaker 7>all these years, and then the Dolphins are a team

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<v Speaker 7>on the rise. So you gotta wonder. I mean, heck,

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<v Speaker 7>Chiefs Patrick Mahons played in their first p Chiefs start

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<v Speaker 7>there yeah, you know, they play their starters, so I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know. We've talked about it before. There has to

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<v Speaker 7>be a balance, and you just got to wonder, as

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<v Speaker 7>he said, how can you be ready to box if

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<v Speaker 7>you're not sparring?

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<v Speaker 3>And they I'll let you answer next. I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit indifferent, really, and the reason being is.

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<v Speaker 4>I take this football team, for example, and one of

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<v Speaker 4>the things that we've longed for. I've longed for is

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<v Speaker 4>a level of physicality to be the identity. And the

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<v Speaker 4>only way that you get to that point is a

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<v Speaker 4>you you get players in here that are physical, b

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<v Speaker 4>you begin to coach in a physical manner. I had

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<v Speaker 4>I had an opportunity to have a conversation with excuse

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<v Speaker 4>me with with Zim. I had a breakfast comedy. It

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't that's about four or five minutes a breakfast comments.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll talk about that in the third segment. But

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<v Speaker 4>a part of me thinks that there needs to be

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<v Speaker 4>a level of physicalness.

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<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to teach it the proper way, though, because

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<v Speaker 4>teams that are undisciplined, teams that don't do things properly,

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<v Speaker 4>can lead to injuries. If your team isn't well coached

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<v Speaker 4>on how to form to if your team is well

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<v Speaker 4>coached in understanding that, hey, we're not we're not dving

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<v Speaker 4>for the knees, you know what I mean, We're not

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<v Speaker 4>We're not trying to have those cheap shots. If your

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<v Speaker 4>team isn't well coached in that, then that could potentially lead.

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<v Speaker 3>To a a a an injury.

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<v Speaker 4>But if they are coached well in that, again, it

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<v Speaker 4>goes back to what I said in the first segment.

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<v Speaker 4>If I rep more often than not live tackling, I

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<v Speaker 4>begin to form the habit of what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 4>I can teach it up on film because no one teaches.

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<v Speaker 4>If everything is a thud or a tag off, there

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<v Speaker 4>is no there's no coaching going on in the meeting

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<v Speaker 4>rooms on.

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<v Speaker 3>How to tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>But if we could pull up film from from a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of live periods that we do in practice, that

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<v Speaker 4>we practice we tackle to the ground, then I can say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>this is not how we do it. Hey, this is

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<v Speaker 4>not how that's done. You know, Hey, across the bow,

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<v Speaker 4>bring you know, shoot your guns, all that kind of

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<v Speaker 4>stuff in the form of tackling.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are tackling terms.

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<v Speaker 4>So that part of me says, I wish the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 4>did that more because we've seen a lot of times

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<v Speaker 4>where this team isn't the best tackling team, this team

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<v Speaker 4>isn't the physical team at the point of attack.

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<v Speaker 3>And with Zim being an.

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<v Speaker 4>Older school coach, but I know that they've taken on

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<v Speaker 4>some new school philosophies. I would love to see that

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<v Speaker 4>implement it more in the Cowboys way.

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<v Speaker 3>Of living, to to.

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<v Speaker 4>Promote the physicalness of what I want to do when

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<v Speaker 4>the football on the football.

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<v Speaker 7>Game that was the apparently the Steelers they say they

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<v Speaker 7>start every practice with a drill called seven shots, and

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<v Speaker 7>it's seven chances from the two yard line to get

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<v Speaker 7>in the end zone, and it's full tilt. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>starters are tackling. I mean, it reminds me of you know,

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<v Speaker 7>Nate used to go through those. I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 7>it was when you guys lined up inside.

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<v Speaker 5>Runs let's go.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So, I mean, of the I think it's of the

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<v Speaker 7>thirty two teams, twenty four either don't tackle at all,

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<v Speaker 7>which I think Cowboys are in that, or do a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit of tackling, maybe the backups and that sort

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<v Speaker 7>of thing. And then these last four or whatever or

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<v Speaker 7>four to eight whatever it was that some tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>And Nay, I'm gonna let you go just two seconds.

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<v Speaker 4>I just it makes me think and I know that

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<v Speaker 4>I was indifferent, but it just again, it just puts

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<v Speaker 4>me in the space of football is physical, like that

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<v Speaker 4>is the that is the essence of this game. And

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<v Speaker 4>more and more we are trying to pull away from

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that made this game what it is. And

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<v Speaker 4>I get it as far as the injuries in the

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<v Speaker 4>long term effected this, but this is why you see

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<v Speaker 4>some of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they're taking hitting and tackling out of the game,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is why you're gonna see more of those

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<v Speaker 4>knee injuries and lower leg injuries because people don't anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>The tackling is pissed poor. And it ain't just the dbs.

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 4>It's it's the defensive ends, it's linebackers. Like those days

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<v Speaker 4>of those guys being the physical, brute force people. It's

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<v Speaker 4>more becoming finesse in a sense.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think they Oh, yeah, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing is we've always in this league been able

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<v Speaker 5>to coach tackling. And the way you learn how to

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<v Speaker 5>coach tackling is allowing the guys to do it during practice,

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<v Speaker 5>and so they have taken it out some coaches that

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a few coaches are still holding on to that.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes you a better team. It makes you physical

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<v Speaker 5>without thinking. You know, you don't want to do like

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<v Speaker 5>the Cowboys do at the end of every year and

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden, you've finish face a physical team.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you've got to start thinking physical. You can't think physical.

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 5>That has to be in your in your DNA. And so, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>these guys, uh, the Stealers. There is one team that

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<v Speaker 5>I knew they was gonna be on the list when

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<v Speaker 5>I was reading this earlier, I knew the Stillers was

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be on the list. Andy Reid has been notorious,

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<v Speaker 5>especially when he was in Philadelphia for almost tackling the

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<v Speaker 5>whole practice. Baby, just have to go to him and

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<v Speaker 5>say Andy enough or not. So Andy Reid has always

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<v Speaker 5>been this guy.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, what's shocking to me is the Miami Dolphins. But

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<v Speaker 5>their coach, I mean, look at this guy. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>think he would be doing an attacking Yeah. Yeah, but

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 5>and Dan cambll detroited you know, you know him, so

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<v Speaker 5>it helps bro It is no uh, the pros and

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<v Speaker 5>cons is great on both sides. It is no way

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<v Speaker 5>that you're telling me taking eight or nine our physical

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<v Speaker 5>repts and practice is going to destroy you because the

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<v Speaker 5>next day you're gonna be off. You're gonna be off

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<v Speaker 5>the next day. Said you tell him you can't other

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<v Speaker 5>from four or five shots.

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<v Speaker 7>Come on, now, do you think the players today or

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<v Speaker 7>maybe even when you were do you think players today

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<v Speaker 7>wish they were some tackling, wish there was more hitting

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<v Speaker 7>when you were.

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<v Speaker 5>Playing for the easy way out? The guys are always

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<v Speaker 5>no matter who you are, you always do for the

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<v Speaker 5>easy way out. The mindset of the coaches, what is

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<v Speaker 5>what makes the difference. These guys already know Hey man,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go ahead and get my four or five shots.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, and uh but what But what I'll go

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<v Speaker 5>back to is now you don't have to think physical. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't have to think physical. You are physical. It

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<v Speaker 5>is what you do now. We may not look at

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 5>the Miament Dolphins is.

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<v Speaker 9>Physical, but we gotta understand they run almost.

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<v Speaker 5>As much as they passed. So it's something to that

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 5>they run almosts much as they passed. And then when

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 5>they're running, game is clicking. You can't stop the passing game.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's something to this man, it's all about it's

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<v Speaker 5>all about being it, it's all about being physic. Every

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<v Speaker 5>year it seemed like the most physical teams go a

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<v Speaker 5>libit buzz in this league.

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<v Speaker 7>I remember where is it, well any one of these

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 7>last few years where they were gonna put pads on

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 7>before they had to face the forty nine ers because

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 7>they were going to get more physical. And I remember

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<v Speaker 7>us talking about you can't just flip the switch and

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<v Speaker 7>all of a sudden we get more physical.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and me, I like that terminology that you use,

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<v Speaker 4>like to be physical without thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah like that that.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that is the part that you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>because you physical is not something you can turn off

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<v Speaker 4>and on.

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<v Speaker 3>It just isn't like either you are or you are not.

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<v Speaker 3>That is it. And and.

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<v Speaker 4>The things that come into play for football teams in

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<v Speaker 4>the in the moments that mattered the most, our second

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 4>nature habits.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, you feel?

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<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense?

0:27:58.040 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? When the heat his own heat, his own, when you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Tired, that that game is it's a it's a My

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 4>example is this, I'll use the basketball for the Olympics.

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 4>They're playing France, and this game is is is tight.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 4>It's in a heated moment and the ball goes to

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 4>Steph Curry and four times in a.

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 3>Row, bang bang bang bang.

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 4>It was so second nature to him that it wasn't

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:34.719
<v Speaker 4>the moment wasn't too big, but that was his rhythm.

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 4>That was he didn't think about making those shots. He

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 4>was saying, I've taken this shot in every which way possible.

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna do it again. And the biggest moments games

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 4>on the line, like you were trailing, you were you

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 4>were up, You're trying to keep him at bay.

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 3>You're trying to close the game out. And it's it's not.

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.719
<v Speaker 4>In week two or three when you're fresh and you're

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 4>flying around. It's in week twelve. It's on the road

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 4>in the fourth quarter. It's when things haven't been going right,

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<v Speaker 4>but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotta make a play.

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 4>It's in the playoffs when teams have honed in on

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 4>all of your weaknesses. And that's one of that that's

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 4>been our Achilles Hill against the really good teams, when

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<v Speaker 4>when it came time for us to to to to

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<v Speaker 4>fire the physical gun.

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<v Speaker 3>We shot blanks. So I said, I'm indifferent about it.

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<v Speaker 6>It don't sound it.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I know that it could lead to something out.

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<v Speaker 4>But maybe that's just the cost of doing business.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you said, if you're doing it right though, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Hopefully when the boom boxes there is loud, when the.

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<v Speaker 4>Boom boxes out its loudest, will you respond when the

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<v Speaker 4>super grimlin is coming at you?

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<v Speaker 3>Will you be able to pour the water?

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<v Speaker 6>The water?

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<v Speaker 4>How you get rid of the giblin? The grimlin water

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 4>makes it grow? Right, whatever you gotta do to get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of the grimlin?

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<v Speaker 3>Who you gonna call those busters in those movements? All right,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll heading to our last break.

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<v Speaker 4>defensive line coach, and your assistant head coach dB coach.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what we talked about. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, all right. So I was recently in

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<v Speaker 4>I was a little bit of Malibu. I was, I was,

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<v Speaker 4>in Oxnard, if you know this, you wouldn't know this. Fans,

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<v Speaker 4>you guys wouldn't know this because you don't you're not accessible.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have access to the behind the scenes stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you're eating an Auxtionnard, there are two rooms.

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<v Speaker 4>When you walk past the front desk, to the right

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<v Speaker 4>is where the players eat, and then to the left

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<v Speaker 4>is where other staff members and stuff like that eating.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you're not supposed to eat there,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you whatever. Sometimes I forget I'm a player.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a player.

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<v Speaker 4>Still in your blood, it's still in my blood. I

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<v Speaker 4>shed blood on the hollow grounds of actional. So I

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<v Speaker 4>ate with the players and coaches ate.

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<v Speaker 3>I went in there. They had better stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 3>They had they did.

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<v Speaker 4>They have the grills and stuff up there, people up there,

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<v Speaker 4>the boches and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they're cooking in there.

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<v Speaker 4>So while I was in there, and oddly enough, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think the office, the offensive coaches must be like

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<v Speaker 4>on a a caloric deficit, a calorie deficit type thing.

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<v Speaker 4>No offensive people were eating none. I didn't run a

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<v Speaker 4>one offensive coach in three days.

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<v Speaker 6>Were the offensive players in there?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they Yeah, some guys came in there, but like,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see many offensive coaches. I guess the defensive

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 4>players they're saying, we're all hungry. All they're all doing

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 4>the micah and rubbing their stomachs. Because I had a

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 4>conversation with UH, with three coaches, and it wasn't long

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<v Speaker 4>in depth conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't we didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't get into a lot of about three to

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<v Speaker 4>five minutes a piece. I was respectful of their time

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<v Speaker 4>and and so on and so forth. But so what

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<v Speaker 4>do you want to hear?

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<v Speaker 3>First? You want to hear Mike Zimmer. You want to hear.

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<v Speaker 4>UH Demico Potter. I'm gonna say his name right or

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<v Speaker 4>you want to hear Al Harris.

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<v Speaker 6>Have about Harris?

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I got a chance to talk to your

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 4>assistant head coach and defensive back coach, Al Harris, and

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, in those spaces sometimes you gotta make it light.

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 4>So I reminded him of a story that Chad Johnson

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 4>had told me when my first team was the Cincinnati

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 4>Bank was my rookie year. So Chad Johnson Ochiol Sinka

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 4>was my was my vet. And one of the people

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 4>that he always raved about was Al Harris. That was

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 4>the one dB that he gave the utmost respect to.

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 4>He said, he said, Al Harris, if he pressed you,

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 4>it was a rap. He got his hands on you,

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 4>it was over. And so I kind of shared that

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 4>with him and he laughed about it. He goes, man,

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 4>me and Chad have some good values, like that's my dude,

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 4>and we kind of just and so that kind of

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 4>ushered and opened up the way for us to have

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 4>a conversation. And I told him that the Carson kid

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 4>was my pet cat, and why it was my pet cat.

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 4>I just thought, you know, acc guy, power fole conference.

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 4>I just looked at the guy said he has a

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 4>ton of experience to be a four year starter. You

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 4>know how many reps that is that you get. Going

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 4>back to the rep conversation, and he raved about this kid,

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:38.439
<v Speaker 4>he said that he says, man, he said, I got

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 4>me another one. Wow, he said, I got me another one.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:43.800
<v Speaker 6>That's nice.

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 4>And he said, he said, you know, and and if

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 4>people are asking why, you know, maybe we aren't signing

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:58.399
<v Speaker 4>a guy like Stefan Gilmour, he got him another one.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 4>And he said, he said, he said, this kid has

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 4>everything that you want. He said the biggest thing about

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.879
<v Speaker 4>him though, that he's eager to learn more. And he said,

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 4>that's there's anything that I found in coaching in the

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:18.240
<v Speaker 4>newer generation. He said, everybody isn't eager to learn more.

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 4>They want to learn enough, and once that enough kind

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 4>of gets them on the field, they don't want to

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 4>know anymore, or or they don't they don't want to

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 4>spend enough time learning more. And he says, this kid

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 4>is different, like he wants to know more. He's eager

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 4>to learn more and more and more and more. And

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 4>he said, he basically said, I got another one, and and.

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 3>And that was that was exciting to hear.

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.840
<v Speaker 4>And you know, and so I talked about him and

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 4>he kind of briefly talked about Diggs and other guys

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 4>and he said, you know, this this group that I

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.879
<v Speaker 4>have of dbs now is the way they challenge each other,

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 4>he said it was it was something he said, it's

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 4>the iron sharp and iron theory that each one of

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 4>these guys pushed themselves and they compete in everything.

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, everything, it's a competition.

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 4>Everybody wants to beat the next man in something that

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 4>we do as a unit.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 3>And so that just kind of left me.

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, that was like, wow, Okay, I got my

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 4>confirmation on Carson. You know, he believed Diggs is gonna

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 4>get back to form. They're just they're kind of slow

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 4>walking him back in it, but he's gonna be ready

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 4>to go. And just sitting there talking to him, and

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 4>we talked about some other stuff that's you know, personal stuff,

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 4>but just getting to sit and talk with him and

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 4>talk ball with him. It's a bright dude man like

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 4>I get and understand why. I know why I know

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 4>I might want to bring up I'm not Mike dan Quinn.

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 4>I know why Dan wanted to bring him I know

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 4>I might want to keep him, Like I'm I am

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent after sitting and talking with him, I'm

0:38:56.320 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent clear why and if, if for whatever reason,

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 4>Mike McCarthy isn't re signed or Zim isn't re signed,

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 4>there is going to be an all out free for

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 4>all free agent battle to grab Al Harris. He's intelligent,

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 4>he's engaging, he's likable, he's knowledgeable, like he's one of

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 4>those he's a leader of men, and players love him

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.480
<v Speaker 4>and that's because he's authentic. Like just sitting there talking

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 4>to him, you felt that the authenticity and the things

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 4>that he were saying. And then I'll go I'll go

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 4>next to Uh to coach Zim. I have a chance

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 4>to talk to co Zim. And I was kind of

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.720
<v Speaker 4>just giving him like Zingers, and I asked him, I said, coach,

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 4>if you had to give me, if you had to

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 4>give me one word for your defense, He kind of

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 4>paused for a second.

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.879
<v Speaker 3>He looked at me, and he said, unpredictable.

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 7>Huh, okay, all right. I hope that means the offense

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 7>doesn't know where they're going.

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 4>Right, And I think no, I think that he meant

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 4>the offense doesn't know where he's coming from.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:12.919
<v Speaker 3>You put in the notes as well.

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:16.959
<v Speaker 4>He called this last game without a play sheet, right.

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 4>And one of the things that I heard Sean McVay

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 4>say about playing against this defense was they confused us.

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 4>They got after us, and and they had some looks

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 4>and some things that we didn't see coming. And this

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 4>was a this was a conversation that I had with

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 4>Zim and he said unpredictable. And I didn't get into

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 4>specific players with him about certain things, but he said unpredictable.

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 4>I want this defense to be unpredictable. And I'm I'm paraphrasing,

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 4>but I'm assuming he meant to the opposing offense. I

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:54.879
<v Speaker 4>don't want them to ever get to have a bead

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 4>on where we're going and what we're doing. And and

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 4>he just said that my goal is to get all

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 4>the guys in the right place to be successful. And

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 4>so that another thing that you want to hear from

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 4>from coaches. And it looked if you looked at the

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 4>first preseason game, there were some looks where they were

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 4>getting after I mean, for interception against Stetsan Bennett.

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 7>And the players seem to be I mean, they've been

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 7>talking about there's a lot of new twists and turns

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 7>to this defense. You seem to really like what's going on.

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 4>This defense doesn't have the the.

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Complexity or the what we're gonna looking for. It's simple.

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 3>It's simpler in the sense of of what they're wanting

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 3>to do.

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how that'll grow throughout the season, but

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 4>the push was to get simpler.

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 3>To get faster, right, and that's what they wanted to do.

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 4>And then the last one that I had a former

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 4>teammate of mine and he didn't remember at first, and

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 4>then I had to kind of bring stories to him

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 4>and he was like, oh yeah, Now, either he was

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 4>a really good liar or he actually genuinely remembered these things.

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.439
<v Speaker 3>But it's one of the assistants. I'm saying his name wrong.

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 4>His last name is Peca, the Maunta Pekka. He's a

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 4>defensive lineman. And I asked him about the defensive lineman.

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 4>I asked him about Mazi and those guys, and he said,

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, he said, he I'm not coach,

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 4>he said, but what I will say is this young group.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 3>They listen, he said, they listen.

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 4>He said, I've tried to coach some other guys and

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 4>other teams in other places, and they just didn't want

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 4>to grasp the concept that I was trying to teach him.

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 4>And this is the guy who's been in the league. Man,

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 4>he probably played in his league plus twelve years, you know,

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 4>so a.

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Ton of knowledge.

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 4>And he said, this young group listens, and so I'm

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 4>hoping that's the next step that guys like Mazi and

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 4>so on and so forth take. He didn't get specific

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 4>and who he was talking about, but he just said, Man,

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.760
<v Speaker 4>I really like coaching this group because they listen and

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 4>and that's I mean, I'm taking all these pluses.

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that sounds good too. Yeah, So.

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 4>Any any conversation that you may have had with any

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 4>of the coaches while you've been there, that kind of

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 4>plays into into that.

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.439
<v Speaker 5>They these guys, man, they they they they they good

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 5>started coaches. Man, I just watch them being I hate

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 5>just watching them. They constant, Man, they like most coaches,

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 5>they're constantly talking to their players there, Uh, to the

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 5>to the point where they have to move way back

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 5>from plays because they about to tell the play. You

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 5>know how some you get so hype so deep it uh,

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, stress like stress like look for you know,

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:48.839
<v Speaker 5>about to look for this, you know, you know, looking

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:50.720
<v Speaker 5>at trying to get them to read their keys.

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 9>And uh, these young.

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:54.399
<v Speaker 5>Guys, you know you see Greg Ellis and the young

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.399
<v Speaker 5>man that you're talking about, always in these players here

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 5>on and off when they'll run on and off filled

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 5>with the other coach Dick jeff Man, he played like

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 5>seventeen years man. They all they running on off the

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 5>field talking to these guys. They don't hit, they don't

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 5>wait till they get to the sideline, talk to them.

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 5>They will run it out there and meet them. This

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 5>is what you need to do. This is what you're

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:17.240
<v Speaker 5>looking for. This is what your keys. So they're coaching

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 5>their coaching and they're trying to put them all in

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 5>the right place the key I think for this campus

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 5>for when you said that coached them and saying I'm

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 5>trying to get guys to line up in the right

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 5>place and do your responsibility because he is banking I know,

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 5>coach them is banking on coach l Harrison to have

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 5>that back in right because our front end is gonna

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 5>take some work. And so if he can get that,

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 5>they keep that back in in place with no with

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.759
<v Speaker 5>no major injuries. It's going to help that front end

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 5>tremendous expressially past situations.

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:54.239
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, you're right. The Peko he was a long

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 7>time and he was a career nose tackle under Zimmer.

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they brought him in a guest help teach that

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.760
<v Speaker 6>the defense. That's that's great.

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was my teammate in Cincinnati way back when

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:08.479
<v Speaker 4>in two thousand and seven.

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 3>He was therefore forever. Yeah, he was there for real.

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 3>He was there for a real long time, real real

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 3>long years.

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:20.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. All the guys coach Jeff Packer, Greg As, all

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 5>these guys played ten plus years. They got a wealth

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 5>of knowledge. Man, it's just will the players be willing

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 5>to listen? Will they be willing to listen and go

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 5>to the next level?

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 4>So and and the one thing that this has been

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 4>normally how it works. Defense, when you're talking about like,

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 4>all right, what side of the ball is, usually comes

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 4>together and and and.

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 3>In jails and forms faster. It's always defense.

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 4>Defense always comes together because if you're running Cover three,

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 4>you're running like those principles don't change, you, see what

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying. If you're a linebacker, your drops are still

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:01.399
<v Speaker 4>the same. Cover three has been the same thing since

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 4>high school, in college and in the pros. You see

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying, Like, those things don't change. So if

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 4>you're running the cover two or Cover four or quarters

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 4>or quarter quarter half, whatever it is, those principles don't change.

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 4>Now when you get the exotics is where you know

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 4>if you're adding some some some sauce to it, if

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 4>you're adding a rush or blitz off of it. But

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 4>Cover two is Cover two. That that that does not

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 4>change your drops and Cover two. So that's why sometimes

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 4>it always gels and comes together a little bit quicker

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:38.760
<v Speaker 4>defensively because you've been you've been running the same coverage

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:41.399
<v Speaker 4>patterns and and the same draft that you would have

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 4>in any other time that you play that position offensively.

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 3>It takes more, the timing takes a little bit more.

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 4>Get more guys geled, because you literally have all these

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 4>guys doing separate things that that sometimes can be you know,

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 4>they have to connect, It has to it has to

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 4>all go together. So right now, the defense looking like

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 4>to play well, have four interceptions the last game and

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 4>more work to do. It will be another challenge this

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:09.840
<v Speaker 4>week against the Vegas Raiders. Uh, this is a sidebar.

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 4>This is just a sidebar. This is this is just

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 4>messy jess. It's just messy jests Mark Davis. Nobody, nobody

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:30.280
<v Speaker 4>is watching the Dak Prescott Jones' front office contract battle

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 4>closer than Mark Davis. They're a quarterback away, their quarterback away.

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:39.399
<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>They they got two good tight ends.

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<v Speaker 4>They got Mike Myers and and and and the kid

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<v Speaker 4>from Georgia brock Bowers.

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<v Speaker 3>They got running backs. They got Davante Adams.

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<v Speaker 6>There.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they got Gardamentshew and the other kid ain't O'Connell.

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 4>They're they're a quarter back away, their quarterback away. And

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Davis he I yeah, I think he'll print the money.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he'll print the money. If I'm not mistaken, Vegas,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll have state tax either.

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<v Speaker 5>Right right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So so so do you.

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<v Speaker 4>That don't play no more? Hey, stay taxed, don't stay taxing.

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Vegas houses probably a little cheaper somewhere on the desert.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's one person that's watching this whole thing unfold.

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<v Speaker 4>Quarterback got Garna Minshew and what's the other kid named,

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<v Speaker 4>ain't O'Connell.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Mark Davis is sitting there with that bowl cut.

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<v Speaker 4>He's sitting there with that gold cut and he's just saying,

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<v Speaker 4>don't pay him. He said, he said, he said, he said, Jared,

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<v Speaker 4>you gamble if you want, I'm gonna bet the house

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<v Speaker 4>or the boy. So I just I look at that

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<v Speaker 4>and I go, there's there's not one person that's watching.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be looking to see Mark Davis on the field,

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<v Speaker 4>pregame who who.

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<v Speaker 3>Hand he's trying to shake?

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<v Speaker 4>If he's got the conversation a little too long with that,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just being messy jests, y'all. I'll be I'll be

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<v Speaker 4>on being messy jests. But I know Mark Davis is

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<v Speaker 4>like the minute he walks out free agency, we're putting

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<v Speaker 4>the deal on the table, sixty million dollars. Alright, alright,

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<v Speaker 4>that's it for us.

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<v Speaker 7>Can I oh sorry, Can I give a shameless plug? Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>Bob Hayes documentary comes posting tomorrow Night's okay on YouTube.

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 6>What's the name of Boys Now? It's called The fast Lane.

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<v Speaker 6>The fast Lane part of our Deep Blue series.

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<v Speaker 7>It will air online tomorrow night at seven and then

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<v Speaker 7>we'll be local here in.

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<v Speaker 6>The Channel eleven.

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<v Speaker 5>You know you can't speak up, Kurt when you need you.

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<v Speaker 3>My boy trying he's trying to win this second. Let's go, baby,

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 3>let's go. Let's get that. So go ahead and check

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<v Speaker 3>that out on the on on Cowboy eleven.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah yeah, YouTube channel Cowboys Now app. It'll be on

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<v Speaker 7>Channel eleven locally on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, The Fast Line, the Bob Hayes Documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, see you rattlers.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, all right, that'll do in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>That'll do it for us. Appreciate you. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what's gonna happen on Friday. We got some something we

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 4>need to work out.

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<v Speaker 5>No, we won't have a show Friday. Well okay, yeah,

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:16.080
<v Speaker 5>it's all over it. We'll see you. We'll see y'all

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:20.879
<v Speaker 5>next week. Yes, sir, Daddy trying to look out for us. Man,

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you, trying to wipe us out. I'm like, no,

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 5>I ain't.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna be like that, daddy, Nate said, Daddy. They said

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<v Speaker 4>we're not having the show.

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<v Speaker 5>So well, Pepper Pampy what we call.

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<v Speaker 3>You, Poppy Poppy seven.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm letting you know your your boyd sit next.

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<v Speaker 5>You messed it all up.

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<v Speaker 4>Start to finish, all right, man, let us get usup.

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 4>Let's get us up out of here.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate your Curt. Thank you Jack, keep us in the back.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you Josh for for doing what you do even

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:50.720
<v Speaker 4>while you're in ox start. Nate, we appreciate you. Boots

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<v Speaker 4>on the ground. Hey, Nate, those rooms are nice, right,

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 4>I was into one of those little Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was upstairs, downstairs.

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<v Speaker 4>Not but the whold of the wing over there got room,

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<v Speaker 4>nice little sweets over there.

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<v Speaker 3>They got some nice rule out.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no, no, no no no no.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand. You know, ain't no trailer parks. Ain't no

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 4>trailer parks and Ox no you weren't. You didn't have

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:13.439
<v Speaker 4>training camp.

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know I had a training camp out.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't have no trade.

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<v Speaker 4>His home, I know, right, you know you go down

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 4>the mallible stuff like that. All right, man for salt

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<v Speaker 4>and pepper, Poppy. This is hanging with the boys until

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<v Speaker 4>next time we are We

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