1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield. 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: Next blowing down the sidelines. 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: Is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff where 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: It's Hunt. 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 4: It's Wednesday, and you're looking at a live look at 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 4: the Tostito Championship Plaza outside in front of the Ford Center. 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: Where it's hot, y'all. I'm lett telling y'all. I'm telling you. 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: If you live in Texas, you get it. If you 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: don't live in Texas, it's hot. It's in the triple digits. 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 4: It's gonna be in the triple digits all week. I 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 4: think this week we get up to like one hundred 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: and five. 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: It is. 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 4: We are without Shannon today, But that's okay because I'm 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: sitting in the Captain syat until my left. I got 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 4: my boy Kurt on the phone, I got my boy 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: Nate in the back. We got Jazzo holding this down together. 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 4: We oh, wait a second, and then me can't forget me, 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 4: you know, saltn Pepper Poppy together, we make Hanging with 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: the Boy the sports talk equivalent of Braille. 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: People fee us when we speak. 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 4: This segment is brought to you each in every episode 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: by Wingstop, where Flavor gets its. 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: We brand Today. 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Brandon Cooks and from Mike McCarthy's mouth, has had 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: one of the best camps thus far. 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: The old grizzled vet is showing up. 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 6: We camp. 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't quite say that. I wouldn't. 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: I didn't quite say that. We're just gonna say Brandon 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: Cook's having a good camp. We're not gonna say we 36 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: don't need CD lambing camp, who, by the way, still 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: not in camp, still doesn't have a deal done, still 38 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: holding out right now for the money that he is 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: looking for. 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: But before we get more. 41 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: Into that, the Cowboys had a preseason game the other day. 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: I know you guys talked about that on Monday. Yeah, 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 4: they're practicing again today, right, Nate's that practice joint practice today? 44 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: Connected correct, tomorrow, tomorrow, today, Today's happening. 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 5: Right, it's been happening about two or three minutes. 46 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's go to Nate Newton, who is 47 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 4: live boots on the ground in Oxnard. Uh So tell 48 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 4: us Nate, so far, what are some of the things 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 4: that you've seen in practice. 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, we've we've asschu mon Doga from 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: six to six to three months, six weeks to three months. 52 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 5: So that puts uh the star as the first round pick. 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 5: He's he's launched in there, whether he earned it or not, 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 5: he's the man. And uh that Austin Richards. That puts 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 5: him out of tackle. Now they was gonna try to 56 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 5: let him battle for the inside guard tween guard, but 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 5: now that gives them first shot at being sweet and 58 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 5: tackle are some riches and that's that's the first thing 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 5: and the next thing that we need to soar up 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 5: our interior defensive line. They show improvement far as this 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 5: game versus the run, but no no pass rush. Nobody 62 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 5: has stepped up to give us some inside pressure except 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: Osa where who did not play. But that's our only 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 5: guy that can give us some pass rush. So they're 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 5: kind of looking for some guys to step up and 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 5: get into that pass rush. And and I think that's 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 5: a lot of why the Rams wanted to come to 68 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 5: us again, to get to get this good look and 69 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 5: to get this good work. I think a lot of 70 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: things failed through for them because they had I think 71 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 5: it was somebody else there was one to scrimmage against. 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 5: But they fell through and they were the easier pickings. 73 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 5: And you know, right down being right down the road. 74 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 5: So it's why it's the instantial off the interior defensive 75 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 5: line and they tackles for the offense. Mind that that's 76 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 5: the most important thing right now that I. 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 7: See you made it sound last time these two practice 78 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 7: that the Rams kind of controlled the line, is that right? 79 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 5: They did? They did? They they came at us man 80 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 5: uh with UH with Byron Young and Jerry burst outside linebackers. 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 5: They they they they rushed with some intensity, with some 82 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 5: with some fire in them, man. And then you go 83 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 5: to the inside of the defensive line, you know, Tyler 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: David Stevens Lineman showed to be pretty active, you know, 85 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 5: and they got a good load uh And they got 86 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 5: Kobe Turner at the nose tackle. So they got some 87 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 5: guys that can get get after the get after the passer. Man. 88 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: And they seem to have been okay against the run 89 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 5: because we got when both teams got into the red 90 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 5: zone inside the this past game, nobody was successful. All 91 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 5: we had was field goal out of the field go 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 5: into that last little who right at the end of 93 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 5: the But it's good work here. I mean, I wish 94 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 5: just could have stayed because to see it, because this 95 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 5: is some good work that the Rams and the Cowboys 96 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 5: are competing against one another. 97 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: One of the updates that we got from Mike McCarthy, yes, 98 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 4: we found out that Chill o'dok a broken big. 99 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: Toe is out for some time. 100 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: But also Mike McCarthy said, hey, we're gonna give the 101 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: rookie BB Cooper BB the first team REP. So now 102 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: you're talking about having Guide you and BB in that 103 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: first team rep. Operation Nate from your perspective, because I 104 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: know where I stand on this and I'll speak after Nate. 105 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: But yes, injury kind of propelled Guiding to be in 106 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 4: there full time. But do you think this isn't the 107 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: right way to go to Mike McCarthy A company, say hey, listen, 108 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 4: these are gonna be the guys that were going here. 109 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: We appreciate you, brock Hoffman, but I'm gonna give all 110 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: these young guys all the reps that they can leading 111 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: up into the season so that they can be ready 112 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: to go. 113 00:05:59,160 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 8: Come to. 114 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: Me and you talked about this joing OTAs, why are 115 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 5: we wasting time? Give these guys every possible rep that 116 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 5: you can that is feasible so your team can prosper, 117 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: you know, because if this is your long haul, this 118 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 5: is game eight and beyond. Why not? Why wait? I 119 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: mean it looked kind of shaky for BB at the 120 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 5: beginning of training camp, but as his training camp has 121 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 5: been going on in progress and he's been better and 122 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: better with his snaps. I think he did okay in 123 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: the game with his snaps. I just first, second, and 124 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 5: third round pick suggestion. You know, in this new NFL, 125 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 5: why did they wait? 126 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 9: I mean, why did they wait? Why did they wait? 127 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 9: That BB should have been even though. 128 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 5: His snap's running perfect, You should have been getting reps 129 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 5: with the back with the first team because this. 130 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 9: You know, because if Hoffman go down, now that's what 131 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 9: they realized. If Hoffman do go down. 132 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 5: That's who's running in the game. It's gonna be BB. 133 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 5: So you better give him all the reps he can get, so, 134 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 5: you know, I by that from day one, you know, 135 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 5: and doubt I'm gonna this needling kid is getting real. 136 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 5: Not not that Sam is hurt. I hate that, but 137 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 5: I'm glad that Needland is getting all the rep's getting 138 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 5: he need him. This is these are seven or eight 139 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 5: cores guys every preseason game. We need to get better 140 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: so this team can have a chance to compete during 141 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 5: the season. 142 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 4: No, I totally agree with what that what that perspective, 143 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: because let's be honest, like, you drafted Guiding in the 144 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: first round for a reason. If if you thought that 145 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: Tuma or Awesome or somebody else could get the job done, 146 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: you would have went a different direction than the first round, 147 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: you know what I mean that that would have set 148 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: you up for somewhere else. But you went this route 149 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: first round because you knew that there was there was 150 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: a major need there with the loss of Tyron Smith 151 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: that you. 152 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: Had to address. 153 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: So why play around with it, like like, let's not 154 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: let's not make this thing. You know what you have 155 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: in this player. You know why you drafted them that 156 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: early and and even and even uh, you know bbe 157 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: relatively high draft pick in the sense of of where 158 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: he went. These are guys that you took that high 159 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: in the draft for an absolute purpose. Then let them 160 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: fulfill that purpose. There's no long there's no need to 161 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: hold them back from something that's inevitable, you know what 162 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: I mean, Like, you know what you have in brock Hoffin. 163 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that those guys can't get some 164 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: first team reps. 165 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: But let's not play with this thing. 166 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: Let's not let's not make this a situation where there 167 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: is a there's a back and forth battle. And I 168 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 4: don't want to sound like a hypcrit because I think 169 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 4: I've said before. You know, you know, being a guy 170 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: that's been around here, that you kind of want to 171 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: have an opportunity to keep your job or fight for 172 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: your job. That's cool, but you're gonna have to now fight. 173 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: From behind, right. 174 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 6: But let me ask you guys this. 175 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 7: So obviously those two guys BB and guy need to 176 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 7: get as many reps as they can, and you would 177 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 7: like to see some reps in the preseason game. McCarthy 178 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 7: though his history is he don't play as starters. How 179 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 7: do you think he's going to handle that house? Should 180 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 7: he handle that? 181 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 5: Well? This we're here against the Raiders. He should just 182 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 5: run him out there. I mean not not just you know, 183 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: Dyke needs to play and BB needs to play. It 184 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 5: is exceptions to every rule. You know. 185 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 9: Once they get two series. 186 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 5: Bring them out of the game. But let them get 187 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 5: let them understand, I mean maybe a half. I don't 188 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 5: care how long you play me. I would play him 189 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 5: the whole game. But that's not the new NFL. You know, 190 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 5: two series, three series, and the and the coaches decide 191 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: that they gave brock hoffin last week, I think two 192 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 5: and a half three series. Then they brought him out 193 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 5: of the game and they started the rotation. Do the 194 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 5: same for this kid here Bb given two, three, maybe 195 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 5: four series, then get him out of the game if 196 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 5: that's how you feel. But if you want to leave, man, 197 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: I have no problem. You know, I have no problem. 198 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 7: Which you think Dak would prefer you do. Make sure 199 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 7: he's healthier, make sure you've got reps. 200 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and and I think the more and this is 201 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: what anything we've said this before here on this show. 202 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: I don't care what profession you're in. If you're a baker, 203 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: the more baking you do, the better you become. If 204 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: you're a carpenter, the more things that you build, the 205 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: better that you become. If you're whatever, the a surgeon, 206 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: the more surgeries you partake in, the better you become. 207 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: I just I don't understand why we get to football 208 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, and I get it. This 209 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: is this is a physical game. It's a it's a 210 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: it's a it's a hurting game. But I just don't 211 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: understand the the the reasoning behind, especially guys who lacked 212 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: the experience. I was a little bit shocked last week 213 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 4: when I was saw when I saw that Jaylen Tobert 214 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: had kind of got the veteran treatment a little bit. 215 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: I was shocked. 216 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 4: I was floored when I was like, wait, what, wait, 217 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: wait where is he? That blew my mind. I'm like, 218 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 4: he isn't done enough. There's no way you've convinced me 219 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: enough that you're good enough that you don't need or 220 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: deserve any of these preseason rep Those rights are reserved 221 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 4: for guys who hold out, right. 222 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: You gotta be good enough to hold out, you see. 223 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: So I don't know why, Like we have the scientific 224 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: proof that anytime you want to get better in something 225 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 4: that it needs to be led by repetition. 226 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: And then we get the football and it's like, let's 227 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: not give him the repetition. It just doesn't. 228 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: And then what's gonna happen is you're gonna just say okay, 229 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: because two or three series are fine, but as you know, Nate, 230 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: you don't get you know what I'm saying, Kurt, you 231 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: don't get. You don't get good to the second round 232 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 4: when you go in there. You know what I'm saying. 233 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: When you're in the bedroom, that first round for you 234 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: until you get that when you come back in with 235 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: that second. 236 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: Round, you knocking the wall. 237 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You gotta get a rhythm. 238 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: You gotta get I get a chance to. And this 239 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 4: is why it's important to me from any perspective of 240 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: any position. Lineman, running back, quarterbacks, dbs. You hear it 241 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: a lot in baseball. It's you know, sometimes they don't 242 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 4: want that picture to cycle through that group again because 243 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: now if I'm a batter, I don't watch you two 244 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 4: or three goals now I didn't see. I got a rhythm, 245 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: I got those reps in. But in football, I gotta 246 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: be able to see this thing happen. I need to 247 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: be able to see that stunt again. I need I 248 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: need to be able to hear that to figure out 249 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: what this guy does, how does he play? Because if not, 250 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 4: then I'm gonna be shocked in the moment when when 251 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: when the live see when the live. 252 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 3: Bullets, beef are flying. 253 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: There is no blow the whistle, running again, line up, 254 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 4: run it again, line up, running again. There is no Oh, 255 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 4: it's just a preseason game, you know as not back 256 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 4: there red jerseys are on all that. No, when Miles 257 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 4: Garrett is standing over top of you, it matters. You 258 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: see what I'm saying, And I want to be able 259 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 4: to have. Now, will all the reps in the world 260 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: prepare you. 261 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: For Miles Garrett? I don't know, but I know that 262 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: you will be. 263 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: I know that you would be better suited to have 264 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: the reps and be ready for him then not have 265 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: the reps. And now everything that you see is new 266 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: to you. That's the part I just don't I don't. 267 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 4: I don't get why we get to this point and 268 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: all of a sudden we start pulling reps away that. 269 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 3: It makes sense for guys that need them. 270 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 4: You got anything, Nate, that was good unless you had something. 271 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 4: I thought you got something, but that one. You know, Kurt, 272 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: you put in an interesting thing talking about reps, having 273 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 4: those live moments. You you found something in the athletic 274 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 4: that talked about they took a poll and I want 275 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: to I want to I want to hear what you 276 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: have to think about this Nate and YouTube Kurt the 277 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: Athletic took a poll and there are a few teams 278 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 4: that tackle in practice to the ground. Those teams are 279 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 4: the Chiefs, the Dolphins, the Lions, the Steelers. When you 280 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: think about those teams, you think about at least two 281 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 4: out of the three, two out of the four are 282 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: kind of blue collar, right, So Lions are still a 283 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: blue collar, you know. And then you think the Chiefs, well, 284 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: they doing something right they stay in the Super Bowl, 285 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: and then the Dolphins kind of their new their new 286 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: found swinging their thing. I want to get you guys opinion. 287 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: Don't answer now. We're gonna take a break. When we 288 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: come back. I want to hear your opinion on your 289 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: thoughts of tackling to the ground in practice. Does it hurt? 290 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: Does it help? Is it minutia? Should more teams do it? 291 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: Say right here with me, right back to hanging with 292 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: the boys. 293 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 8: How's wing stop sound? 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But Kirk, where you're at? 337 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: How's your mentors outdidentals doing good? 338 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 6: Everything's uh going all right? 339 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: Hook Nate? What about you? 340 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 5: How's your mentors and dentals great, thanks. 341 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: Good good mentors are good. Starting a new job soon, 342 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 4: so I'll be getting new benefits. So once I get 343 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: that intact, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna attack that. I 344 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 4: told you I tipped. I tipped my wisdom tooth. So 345 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: once I get the new dentals, the new dental benefits, 346 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 4: I'll go and I'll go and attack those things because 347 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: that's gonna be I don't want to pay that out. 348 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: Of I don't want to pay that out of pocket costs. 349 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to pay that out of pocket. 350 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 4: The good thing is, and I know, Nate, you probably 351 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: use this, but one of the benefits at the NFL 352 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: still gives some of the former players that I do 353 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: get reimbursed. But I just don't want to come out 354 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 4: of the pocket with a couple of thousand dollars. I'll 355 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: just it's not killing me. Now I can go get 356 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 4: it done and then get reimbursed. It's not it's not painful, 357 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: it doesn't hurt. I just know that if I don't 358 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 4: get it done, you know it's gonna turn into that. 359 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna just wait till these new benefits something 360 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 4: so I can keep some money in my pocket. With 361 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 4: that jazz, how's your mentals and dentals? 362 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 3: It's like a feeling. 363 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: Okay, Jazz is coming out of her locks, and I've 364 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: told everybody that. 365 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: Breaking breaking. Sorry. 366 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: Sorry, you know, I tried to do what we do 367 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 4: on this show, but I just didn't. Sorry, sorry, dang shoot, 368 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 4: didn't mean to do that, all right. I teased it 369 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: before we went in to break some football teams during 370 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: practice tackle to the ground. 371 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: Not a lot. 372 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 7: Well, they ranked them, and there was three teams that 373 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 7: did it they said often. There was one team that 374 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 7: did it very often, which is Steelers. I guess Mike Tomlin. 375 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 7: That's his thing. We're gonna get physical in practice. 376 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: And his quote was you can't box without sparring. 377 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. I think that's a great, great quote. 378 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 379 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 7: So, and you got to look at those four teams, 380 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 7: you know, you mentioned them. Two were in the super 381 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 7: Bowl last year, and like you said, Steelers are known 382 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 7: for their toughness and Tomlin, especially with him as coaches 383 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 7: all these years, and then the Dolphins are a team 384 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 7: on the rise. So you gotta wonder. I mean, heck, 385 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 7: Chiefs Patrick Mahons played in their first p Chiefs start 386 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 7: there yeah, you know, they play their starters, so I 387 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 7: don't know. We've talked about it before. There has to 388 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 7: be a balance, and you just got to wonder, as 389 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 7: he said, how can you be ready to box if 390 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 7: you're not sparring? 391 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: And they I'll let you answer next. I am. I'm 392 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: a little bit indifferent, really, and the reason being is. 393 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: I take this football team, for example, and one of 394 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: the things that we've longed for. I've longed for is 395 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 4: a level of physicality to be the identity. And the 396 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: only way that you get to that point is a 397 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 4: you you get players in here that are physical, b 398 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: you begin to coach in a physical manner. I had 399 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 4: I had an opportunity to have a conversation with excuse 400 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 4: me with with Zim. I had a breakfast comedy. It 401 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: wasn't that's about four or five minutes a breakfast comments. 402 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: And I'll talk about that in the third segment. But 403 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: a part of me thinks that there needs to be 404 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: a level of physicalness. 405 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 10: Now. 406 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 4: You have to teach it the proper way, though, because 407 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: teams that are undisciplined, teams that don't do things properly, 408 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 4: can lead to injuries. If your team isn't well coached 409 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: on how to form to if your team is well 410 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 4: coached in understanding that, hey, we're not we're not dving 411 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: for the knees, you know what I mean, We're not 412 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: We're not trying to have those cheap shots. If your 413 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: team isn't well coached in that, then that could potentially lead. 414 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 3: To a a a an injury. 415 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: But if they are coached well in that, again, it 416 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 4: goes back to what I said in the first segment. 417 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 4: If I rep more often than not live tackling, I 418 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: begin to form the habit of what it looks like. 419 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 4: I can teach it up on film because no one teaches. 420 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: If everything is a thud or a tag off, there 421 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 4: is no there's no coaching going on in the meeting 422 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: rooms on. 423 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: How to tackle. 424 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 4: But if we could pull up film from from a 425 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 4: couple of live periods that we do in practice, that 426 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 4: we practice we tackle to the ground, then I can say, hey, 427 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 4: this is not how we do it. Hey, this is 428 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 4: not how that's done. You know, Hey, across the bow, 429 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: bring you know, shoot your guns, all that kind of 430 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 4: stuff in the form of tackling. 431 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 3: Those are tackling terms. 432 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: So that part of me says, I wish the Cowboys 433 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 4: did that more because we've seen a lot of times 434 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: where this team isn't the best tackling team, this team 435 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 4: isn't the physical team at the point of attack. 436 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: And with Zim being an. 437 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: Older school coach, but I know that they've taken on 438 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: some new school philosophies. I would love to see that 439 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 4: implement it more in the Cowboys way. 440 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: Of living, to to. 441 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: Promote the physicalness of what I want to do when 442 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 4: the football on the football. 443 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 7: Game that was the apparently the Steelers they say they 444 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 7: start every practice with a drill called seven shots, and 445 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 7: it's seven chances from the two yard line to get 446 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 7: in the end zone, and it's full tilt. I mean, 447 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 7: starters are tackling. I mean, it reminds me of you know, 448 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 7: Nate used to go through those. I can't remember what 449 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 7: it was when you guys lined up inside. 450 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 5: Runs let's go. 451 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 452 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 7: So, I mean, of the I think it's of the 453 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 7: thirty two teams, twenty four either don't tackle at all, 454 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 7: which I think Cowboys are in that, or do a 455 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 7: little bit of tackling, maybe the backups and that sort 456 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 7: of thing. And then these last four or whatever or 457 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 7: four to eight whatever it was that some tackle. 458 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: And Nay, I'm gonna let you go just two seconds. 459 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: I just it makes me think and I know that 460 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: I was indifferent, but it just again, it just puts 461 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: me in the space of football is physical, like that 462 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 4: is the that is the essence of this game. And 463 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 4: more and more we are trying to pull away from 464 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: the thing that made this game what it is. And 465 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: I get it as far as the injuries in the 466 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: long term effected this, but this is why you see 467 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 4: some of these things. 468 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: This is why you're gonna do. 469 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 4: I mean, they're taking hitting and tackling out of the game, 470 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: and this is why you're gonna see more of those 471 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 4: knee injuries and lower leg injuries because people don't anymore. 472 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: The tackling is pissed poor. And it ain't just the dbs. 473 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 4: It's it's the defensive ends, it's linebackers. Like those days 474 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 4: of those guys being the physical, brute force people. It's 475 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: more becoming finesse in a sense. 476 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 5: What do you think they Oh, yeah, I agree with you. 477 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 5: The thing is we've always in this league been able 478 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 5: to coach tackling. And the way you learn how to 479 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 5: coach tackling is allowing the guys to do it during practice, 480 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 5: and so they have taken it out some coaches that 481 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 5: you know, a few coaches are still holding on to that. 482 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 5: It makes you a better team. It makes you physical 483 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 5: without thinking. You know, you don't want to do like 484 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 5: the Cowboys do at the end of every year and 485 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you've finish face a physical team. 486 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 5: Now you've got to start thinking physical. You can't think physical. 487 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: That has to be in your in your DNA. And so, uh, 488 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 5: these guys, uh, the Stealers. There is one team that 489 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 5: I knew they was gonna be on the list when 490 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: I was reading this earlier, I knew the Stillers was 491 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 5: gonna be on the list. Andy Reid has been notorious, 492 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 5: especially when he was in Philadelphia for almost tackling the 493 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 5: whole practice. Baby, just have to go to him and 494 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 5: say Andy enough or not. So Andy Reid has always 495 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 5: been this guy. 496 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 11: Uh. 497 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 5: Now, what's shocking to me is the Miami Dolphins. But 498 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: their coach, I mean, look at this guy. You wouldn't 499 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 5: think he would be doing an attacking Yeah. Yeah, but 500 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 5: and Dan cambll detroited you know, you know him, so 501 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 5: it helps bro It is no uh, the pros and 502 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 5: cons is great on both sides. It is no way 503 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 5: that you're telling me taking eight or nine our physical 504 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 5: repts and practice is going to destroy you because the 505 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 5: next day you're gonna be off. You're gonna be off 506 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 5: the next day. Said you tell him you can't other 507 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 5: from four or five shots. 508 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 7: Come on, now, do you think the players today or 509 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 7: maybe even when you were do you think players today 510 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 7: wish they were some tackling, wish there was more hitting 511 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 7: when you were. 512 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 5: Playing for the easy way out? The guys are always 513 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 5: no matter who you are, you always do for the 514 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 5: easy way out. The mindset of the coaches, what is 515 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 5: what makes the difference. These guys already know Hey man, 516 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go ahead and get my four or five shots. 517 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 5: You know, and uh but what But what I'll go 518 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 5: back to is now you don't have to think physical. Now, 519 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 5: you don't have to think physical. You are physical. It 520 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 5: is what you do now. We may not look at 521 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 5: the Miament Dolphins is. 522 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 9: Physical, but we gotta understand they run almost. 523 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: As much as they passed. So it's something to that 524 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 5: they run almosts much as they passed. And then when 525 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 5: they're running, game is clicking. You can't stop the passing game. 526 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 5: So it's something to this man, it's all about it's 527 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 5: all about being it, it's all about being physic. Every 528 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 5: year it seemed like the most physical teams go a 529 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 5: libit buzz in this league. 530 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 7: I remember where is it, well any one of these 531 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 7: last few years where they were gonna put pads on 532 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 7: before they had to face the forty nine ers because 533 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 7: they were going to get more physical. And I remember 534 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 7: us talking about you can't just flip the switch and 535 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 7: all of a sudden we get more physical. 536 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 8: Yeah. 537 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and me, I like that terminology that you use, 538 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 4: like to be physical without thinking. 539 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah like that that. 540 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 4: Like that is the part that you know what I'm saying, 541 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: because you physical is not something you can turn off 542 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 4: and on. 543 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: It just isn't like either you are or you are not. 544 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: That is it. And and. 545 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 4: The things that come into play for football teams in 546 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 4: the in the moments that mattered the most, our second 547 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: nature habits. 548 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 5: That's right, you feel? 549 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 550 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 11: Yeah? 551 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? When the heat his own heat, his own, when you're. 552 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 4: Tired, that that game is it's a it's a My 553 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: example is this, I'll use the basketball for the Olympics. 554 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: They're playing France, and this game is is is tight. 555 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 4: It's in a heated moment and the ball goes to 556 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: Steph Curry and four times in a. 557 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 3: Row, bang bang bang bang. 558 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: It was so second nature to him that it wasn't 559 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 4: the moment wasn't too big, but that was his rhythm. 560 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: That was he didn't think about making those shots. He 561 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: was saying, I've taken this shot in every which way possible. 562 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it again. And the biggest moments games 563 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: on the line, like you were trailing, you were you 564 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 4: were up, You're trying to keep him at bay. 565 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: You're trying to close the game out. And it's it's not. 566 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 4: In week two or three when you're fresh and you're 567 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 4: flying around. It's in week twelve. It's on the road 568 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. It's when things haven't been going right, 569 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 4: but I. 570 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: Gotta make a play. 571 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: It's in the playoffs when teams have honed in on 572 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 4: all of your weaknesses. And that's one of that that's 573 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: been our Achilles Hill against the really good teams, when 574 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: when it came time for us to to to to 575 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 4: fire the physical gun. 576 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: We shot blanks. So I said, I'm indifferent about it. 577 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 6: It don't sound it. 578 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: Because I know that it could lead to something out. 579 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 4: But maybe that's just the cost of doing business. 580 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 6: Like you said, if you're doing it right though, you know. 581 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 5: Hopefully when the boom boxes there is loud, when the. 582 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: Boom boxes out its loudest, will you respond when the 583 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: super grimlin is coming at you? 584 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: Will you be able to pour the water? 585 00:29:59,440 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 6: The water? 586 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: How you get rid of the giblin? The grimlin water 587 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: makes it grow? Right, whatever you gotta do to get 588 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: rid of the grimlin? 589 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: Who you gonna call those busters in those movements? All right, 590 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: we'll heading to our last break. 591 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 4: When we come back, I'll detail a couple of conversations 592 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 4: that I had when I was an aux SNAr. I 593 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: got a chance to sit down at breakfast and at 594 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: dinner with a lot of what's your defensive coordinator, a 595 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: defensive line coach, and your assistant head coach dB coach. 596 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what we talked about. 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Welcome back to Hanging 641 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: with the Boys. 642 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: This Wednesday Hunt, they auditioned the third and final segment 643 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 4: of the day. That segment is brought to you by Jigsaw, 644 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: the official dating partner all the Dallas Cowboys. Head over 645 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 4: to Jigsaw dot com and hook yourself up. Look yourself 646 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: up with a little something something over there at Jacksaw. 647 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on over there, but go 648 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 4: over there and you find out. Uh, you know for yourself. 649 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 4: I don't know, all right. So I was recently in 650 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: ox Snard. I was in San Bernardino, I was in Oxnard. 651 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 4: I was a little bit of Malibu. I was, I was, 652 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 4: I was around, I was outside, as the young people 653 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: like to say. But while I was in ox Snart, 654 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to have a couple of conversations. 655 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: And that's one of the privileges of So if you're 656 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: in Oxnard, if you know this, you wouldn't know this. Fans, 657 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 4: you guys wouldn't know this because you don't you're not accessible. 658 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 4: You don't have access to the behind the scenes stuff. 659 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 4: But when you're eating an Auxtionnard, there are two rooms. 660 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 4: When you walk past the front desk, to the right 661 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 4: is where the players eat, and then to the left 662 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: is where other staff members and stuff like that eating. 663 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if you're not supposed to eat there, 664 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 4: whatever you whatever. Sometimes I forget I'm a player. 665 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 3: I'm a player. 666 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 4: Still in your blood, it's still in my blood. I 667 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 4: shed blood on the hollow grounds of actional. So I 668 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 4: ate with the players and coaches ate. 669 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: I went in there. They had better stuff in there. 670 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: They had they did. 671 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 4: They have the grills and stuff up there, people up there, 672 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: the boches and all that kind of stuff. 673 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 3: You know, they're cooking in there. 674 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 4: So while I was in there, and oddly enough, I 675 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 4: don't think the office, the offensive coaches must be like 676 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: on a a caloric deficit, a calorie deficit type thing. 677 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 4: No offensive people were eating none. I didn't run a 678 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 4: one offensive coach in three days. 679 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 6: Were the offensive players in there? 680 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: Maybe they Yeah, some guys came in there, but like, 681 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 4: I didn't see many offensive coaches. I guess the defensive 682 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: players they're saying, we're all hungry. All they're all doing 683 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 4: the micah and rubbing their stomachs. Because I had a 684 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 4: conversation with UH, with three coaches, and it wasn't long 685 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: in depth conversation. 686 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: We didn't we didn't. 687 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 4: We didn't get into a lot of about three to 688 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 4: five minutes a piece. I was respectful of their time 689 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 4: and and so on and so forth. But so what 690 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 4: do you want to hear? 691 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 3: First? You want to hear Mike Zimmer. You want to hear. 692 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 4: UH Demico Potter. I'm gonna say his name right or 693 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 4: you want to hear Al Harris. 694 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 6: Have about Harris? 695 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 4: Okay, So I got a chance to talk to your 696 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 4: assistant head coach and defensive back coach, Al Harris, and 697 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 4: you know, in those spaces sometimes you gotta make it light. 698 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 4: So I reminded him of a story that Chad Johnson 699 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 4: had told me when my first team was the Cincinnati 700 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 4: Bank was my rookie year. So Chad Johnson Ochiol Sinka 701 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 4: was my was my vet. And one of the people 702 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 4: that he always raved about was Al Harris. That was 703 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 4: the one dB that he gave the utmost respect to. 704 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 4: He said, he said, Al Harris, if he pressed you, 705 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 4: it was a rap. He got his hands on you, 706 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 4: it was over. And so I kind of shared that 707 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: with him and he laughed about it. He goes, man, 708 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 4: me and Chad have some good values, like that's my dude, 709 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 4: and we kind of just and so that kind of 710 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 4: ushered and opened up the way for us to have 711 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 4: a conversation. And I told him that the Carson kid 712 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 4: was my pet cat, and why it was my pet cat. 713 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 4: I just thought, you know, acc guy, power fole conference. 714 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 4: I just looked at the guy said he has a 715 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 4: ton of experience to be a four year starter. You 716 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 4: know how many reps that is that you get. Going 717 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 4: back to the rep conversation, and he raved about this kid, 718 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 4: he said that he says, man, he said, I got 719 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 4: me another one. Wow, he said, I got me another one. 720 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 6: That's nice. 721 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 4: And he said, he said, you know, and and if 722 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 4: people are asking why, you know, maybe we aren't signing 723 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 4: a guy like Stefan Gilmour, he got him another one. 724 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 4: And he said, he said, he said, this kid has 725 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 4: everything that you want. He said the biggest thing about 726 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 4: him though, that he's eager to learn more. And he said, 727 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 4: that's there's anything that I found in coaching in the 728 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 4: newer generation. He said, everybody isn't eager to learn more. 729 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 4: They want to learn enough, and once that enough kind 730 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 4: of gets them on the field, they don't want to 731 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 4: know anymore, or or they don't they don't want to 732 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 4: spend enough time learning more. And he says, this kid 733 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 4: is different, like he wants to know more. He's eager 734 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 4: to learn more and more and more and more. And 735 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 4: he said, he basically said, I got another one, and and. 736 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: And that was that was exciting to hear. 737 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 4: And you know, and so I talked about him and 738 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 4: he kind of briefly talked about Diggs and other guys 739 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 4: and he said, you know, this this group that I 740 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 4: have of dbs now is the way they challenge each other, 741 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 4: he said it was it was something he said, it's 742 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 4: the iron sharp and iron theory that each one of 743 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 4: these guys pushed themselves and they compete in everything. 744 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 3: And he's like, everything, it's a competition. 745 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 4: Everybody wants to beat the next man in something that 746 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 4: we do as a unit. 747 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 3: And so that just kind of left me. 748 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 4: You know, that was like, wow, Okay, I got my 749 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 4: confirmation on Carson. You know, he believed Diggs is gonna 750 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 4: get back to form. They're just they're kind of slow 751 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 4: walking him back in it, but he's gonna be ready 752 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 4: to go. And just sitting there talking to him, and 753 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 4: we talked about some other stuff that's you know, personal stuff, 754 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 4: but just getting to sit and talk with him and 755 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 4: talk ball with him. It's a bright dude man like 756 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 4: I get and understand why. I know why I know 757 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 4: I might want to bring up I'm not Mike dan Quinn. 758 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 4: I know why Dan wanted to bring him I know 759 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 4: I might want to keep him, Like I'm I am 760 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 4: one hundred percent after sitting and talking with him, I'm 761 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 4: one hundred percent clear why and if, if for whatever reason, 762 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy isn't re signed or Zim isn't re signed, 763 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 4: there is going to be an all out free for 764 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 4: all free agent battle to grab Al Harris. He's intelligent, 765 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 4: he's engaging, he's likable, he's knowledgeable, like he's one of 766 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 4: those he's a leader of men, and players love him 767 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: and that's because he's authentic. Like just sitting there talking 768 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 4: to him, you felt that the authenticity and the things 769 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 4: that he were saying. And then I'll go I'll go 770 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 4: next to Uh to coach Zim. I have a chance 771 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 4: to talk to co Zim. And I was kind of 772 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,720 Speaker 4: just giving him like Zingers, and I asked him, I said, coach, 773 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 4: if you had to give me, if you had to 774 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 4: give me one word for your defense, He kind of 775 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 4: paused for a second. 776 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 3: He looked at me, and he said, unpredictable. 777 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 7: Huh, okay, all right. I hope that means the offense 778 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 7: doesn't know where they're going. 779 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 4: Right, And I think no, I think that he meant 780 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 4: the offense doesn't know where he's coming from. 781 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 3: You put in the notes as well. 782 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,959 Speaker 4: He called this last game without a play sheet, right. 783 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 4: And one of the things that I heard Sean McVay 784 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 4: say about playing against this defense was they confused us. 785 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 4: They got after us, and and they had some looks 786 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 4: and some things that we didn't see coming. And this 787 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 4: was a this was a conversation that I had with 788 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 4: Zim and he said unpredictable. And I didn't get into 789 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 4: specific players with him about certain things, but he said unpredictable. 790 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 4: I want this defense to be unpredictable. And I'm I'm paraphrasing, 791 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 4: but I'm assuming he meant to the opposing offense. I 792 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 4: don't want them to ever get to have a bead 793 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 4: on where we're going and what we're doing. And and 794 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 4: he just said that my goal is to get all 795 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 4: the guys in the right place to be successful. And 796 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 4: so that another thing that you want to hear from 797 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 4: from coaches. And it looked if you looked at the 798 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 4: first preseason game, there were some looks where they were 799 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 4: getting after I mean, for interception against Stetsan Bennett. 800 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 7: And the players seem to be I mean, they've been 801 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 7: talking about there's a lot of new twists and turns 802 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 7: to this defense. You seem to really like what's going on. 803 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 4: This defense doesn't have the the. 804 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 3: Complexity or the what we're gonna looking for. It's simple. 805 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 3: It's simpler in the sense of of what they're wanting 806 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 3: to do. 807 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 2: Now. 808 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 4: I don't know how that'll grow throughout the season, but 809 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 4: the push was to get simpler. 810 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 3: To get faster, right, and that's what they wanted to do. 811 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 4: And then the last one that I had a former 812 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 4: teammate of mine and he didn't remember at first, and 813 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 4: then I had to kind of bring stories to him 814 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 4: and he was like, oh yeah, Now, either he was 815 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 4: a really good liar or he actually genuinely remembered these things. 816 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 3: But it's one of the assistants. I'm saying his name wrong. 817 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 4: His last name is Peca, the Maunta Pekka. He's a 818 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 4: defensive lineman. And I asked him about the defensive lineman. 819 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 4: I asked him about Mazi and those guys, and he said, 820 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 4: you know, you know, he said, he I'm not coach, 821 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 4: he said, but what I will say is this young group. 822 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 3: They listen, he said, they listen. 823 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 4: He said, I've tried to coach some other guys and 824 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 4: other teams in other places, and they just didn't want 825 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 4: to grasp the concept that I was trying to teach him. 826 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 4: And this is the guy who's been in the league. Man, 827 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 4: he probably played in his league plus twelve years, you know, 828 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 4: so a. 829 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 3: Ton of knowledge. 830 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 4: And he said, this young group listens, and so I'm 831 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 4: hoping that's the next step that guys like Mazi and 832 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 4: so on and so forth take. He didn't get specific 833 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 4: and who he was talking about, but he just said, Man, 834 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 4: I really like coaching this group because they listen and 835 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 4: and that's I mean, I'm taking all these pluses. 836 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, that sounds good too. Yeah, So. 837 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 4: Any any conversation that you may have had with any 838 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 4: of the coaches while you've been there, that kind of 839 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 4: plays into into that. 840 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 8: Yeah. 841 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 5: They these guys, man, they they they they they good 842 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 5: started coaches. Man, I just watch them being I hate 843 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 5: just watching them. They constant, Man, they like most coaches, 844 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 5: they're constantly talking to their players there, Uh, to the 845 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 5: to the point where they have to move way back 846 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 5: from plays because they about to tell the play. You 847 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 5: know how some you get so hype so deep it uh, 848 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 5: you know, stress like stress like look for you know, 849 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 5: about to look for this, you know, you know, looking 850 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 5: at trying to get them to read their keys. 851 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 9: And uh, these young. 852 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 5: Guys, you know you see Greg Ellis and the young 853 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 5: man that you're talking about, always in these players here 854 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 5: on and off when they'll run on and off filled 855 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 5: with the other coach Dick jeff Man, he played like 856 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 5: seventeen years man. They all they running on off the 857 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 5: field talking to these guys. They don't hit, they don't 858 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 5: wait till they get to the sideline, talk to them. 859 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 5: They will run it out there and meet them. This 860 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 5: is what you need to do. This is what you're 861 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 5: looking for. This is what your keys. So they're coaching 862 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 5: their coaching and they're trying to put them all in 863 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 5: the right place the key I think for this campus 864 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 5: for when you said that coached them and saying I'm 865 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 5: trying to get guys to line up in the right 866 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 5: place and do your responsibility because he is banking I know, 867 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 5: coach them is banking on coach l Harrison to have 868 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 5: that back in right because our front end is gonna 869 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 5: take some work. And so if he can get that, 870 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 5: they keep that back in in place with no with 871 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 5: no major injuries. It's going to help that front end 872 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 5: tremendous expressially past situations. 873 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you're right. The Peko he was a long 874 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 7: time and he was a career nose tackle under Zimmer. 875 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 8: Yeah. 876 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, they brought him in a guest help teach that 877 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 6: the defense. That's that's great. 878 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was my teammate in Cincinnati way back when 879 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 4: in two thousand and seven. 880 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 3: He was therefore forever. Yeah, he was there for real. 881 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: He was there for a real long time, real real 882 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 3: long years. 883 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. All the guys coach Jeff Packer, Greg As, all 884 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 5: these guys played ten plus years. They got a wealth 885 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 5: of knowledge. Man, it's just will the players be willing 886 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 5: to listen? Will they be willing to listen and go 887 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 5: to the next level? 888 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 4: So and and the one thing that this has been 889 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 4: normally how it works. Defense, when you're talking about like, 890 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 4: all right, what side of the ball is, usually comes 891 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 4: together and and and. 892 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 3: In jails and forms faster. It's always defense. 893 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 4: Defense always comes together because if you're running Cover three, 894 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 4: you're running like those principles don't change, you, see what 895 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 4: I'm saying. If you're a linebacker, your drops are still 896 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 4: the same. Cover three has been the same thing since 897 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 4: high school, in college and in the pros. You see 898 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, those things don't change. So if 899 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 4: you're running the cover two or Cover four or quarters 900 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 4: or quarter quarter half, whatever it is, those principles don't change. 901 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 4: Now when you get the exotics is where you know 902 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 4: if you're adding some some some sauce to it, if 903 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 4: you're adding a rush or blitz off of it. But 904 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 4: Cover two is Cover two. That that that does not 905 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 4: change your drops and Cover two. So that's why sometimes 906 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 4: it always gels and comes together a little bit quicker 907 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 4: defensively because you've been you've been running the same coverage 908 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 4: patterns and and the same draft that you would have 909 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 4: in any other time that you play that position offensively. 910 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 3: It takes more, the timing takes a little bit more. 911 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 4: Get more guys geled, because you literally have all these 912 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 4: guys doing separate things that that sometimes can be you know, 913 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 4: they have to connect, It has to it has to 914 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 4: all go together. So right now, the defense looking like 915 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 4: to play well, have four interceptions the last game and 916 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 4: more work to do. It will be another challenge this 917 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 4: week against the Vegas Raiders. Uh, this is a sidebar. 918 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 4: This is just a sidebar. This is this is just 919 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 4: messy jess. It's just messy jests Mark Davis. Nobody, nobody 920 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 4: is watching the Dak Prescott Jones' front office contract battle 921 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 4: closer than Mark Davis. They're a quarterback away, their quarterback away. 922 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 8: Now. 923 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 3: They they got two good tight ends. 924 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 4: They got Mike Myers and and and and the kid 925 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 4: from Georgia brock Bowers. 926 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 3: They got running backs. They got Davante Adams. 927 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 6: There. 928 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 4: Now they got Gardamentshew and the other kid ain't O'Connell. 929 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 4: They're they're a quarter back away, their quarterback away. And 930 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 4: Mark Davis he I yeah, I think he'll print the money. 931 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 4: I think he'll print the money. If I'm not mistaken, Vegas, 932 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 4: I'll have state tax either. 933 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 5: Right right? 934 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So so so do you. 935 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 4: That don't play no more? Hey, stay taxed, don't stay taxing. 936 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 4: Vegas houses probably a little cheaper somewhere on the desert. 937 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 4: So there's one person that's watching this whole thing unfold. 938 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 4: Quarterback got Garna Minshew and what's the other kid named, 939 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 4: ain't O'Connell. 940 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark Davis is sitting there with that bowl cut. 941 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 4: He's sitting there with that gold cut and he's just saying, 942 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 4: don't pay him. He said, he said, he said, he said, Jared, 943 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 4: you gamble if you want, I'm gonna bet the house 944 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 4: or the boy. So I just I look at that 945 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,240 Speaker 4: and I go, there's there's not one person that's watching. 946 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be looking to see Mark Davis on the field, 947 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 4: pregame who who. 948 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 3: Hand he's trying to shake? 949 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 4: If he's got the conversation a little too long with that, 950 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 4: I'm just being messy jests, y'all. I'll be I'll be 951 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 4: on being messy jests. But I know Mark Davis is 952 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 4: like the minute he walks out free agency, we're putting 953 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 4: the deal on the table, sixty million dollars. Alright, alright, 954 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 4: that's it for us. 955 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 7: Can I oh sorry, Can I give a shameless plug? Yes, 956 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 7: Bob Hayes documentary comes posting tomorrow Night's okay on YouTube. 957 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 6: What's the name of Boys Now? It's called The fast Lane. 958 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 6: The fast Lane part of our Deep Blue series. 959 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 7: It will air online tomorrow night at seven and then 960 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 7: we'll be local here in. 961 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 6: The Channel eleven. 962 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 5: You know you can't speak up, Kurt when you need you. 963 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 3: My boy trying he's trying to win this second. Let's go, baby, 964 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 3: let's go. Let's get that. So go ahead and check 965 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 3: that out on the on on Cowboy eleven. 966 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, YouTube channel Cowboys Now app. It'll be on 967 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 7: Channel eleven locally on Saturday night. 968 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 4: All right, The Fast Line, the Bob Hayes Documentary. 969 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 3: Okay, see you rattlers. 970 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, that'll do in the world. 971 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 4: That'll do it for us. Appreciate you. I don't know 972 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 4: what's gonna happen on Friday. We got some something we 973 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 4: need to work out. 974 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 5: No, we won't have a show Friday. Well okay, yeah, 975 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 5: it's all over it. We'll see you. We'll see y'all 976 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,879 Speaker 5: next week. Yes, sir, Daddy trying to look out for us. Man, 977 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, trying to wipe us out. I'm like, no, 978 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 5: I ain't. 979 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 4: Gonna be like that, daddy, Nate said, Daddy. They said 980 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 4: we're not having the show. 981 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 5: So well, Pepper Pampy what we call. 982 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 3: You, Poppy Poppy seven. 983 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm letting you know your your boyd sit next. 984 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,720 Speaker 5: You messed it all up. 985 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 4: Start to finish, all right, man, let us get usup. 986 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 4: Let's get us up out of here. 987 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 5: Man. 988 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 3: Appreciate your Curt. Thank you Jack, keep us in the back. 989 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 4: Thank you Josh for for doing what you do even 990 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,720 Speaker 4: while you're in ox start. Nate, we appreciate you. Boots 991 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 4: on the ground. Hey, Nate, those rooms are nice, right, 992 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 4: I was into one of those little Yeah, I was. 993 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was upstairs, downstairs. 994 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 4: Not but the whold of the wing over there got room, 995 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 4: nice little sweets over there. 996 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 3: They got some nice rule out. 997 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 10: Yeah. 998 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no no no no. 999 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 4: I understand. You know, ain't no trailer parks. Ain't no 1000 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 4: trailer parks and Ox no you weren't. You didn't have 1001 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:13,439 Speaker 4: training camp. 1002 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I had a training camp out. 1003 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 5: I didn't have no trade. 1004 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 4: His home, I know, right, you know you go down 1005 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 4: the mallible stuff like that. All right, man for salt 1006 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 4: and pepper, Poppy. This is hanging with the boys until 1007 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 4: next time we are We 1008 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: Has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and the 1009 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.