WEBVTT - Training Camp Cast 7/29: Day 5 Recap, First Padded Practice, Physicality Ramps Up

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<v Speaker 4>All right, welcome into another edition of the Patriots Training

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<v Speaker 4>Camp Cast. I Mike do So, joined by Tamara Brown

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<v Speaker 4>and Paul Perillo and guys. It's been an active twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four hours here, and I think right off the top,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got to mention Christian Barmore, Patriots making announcement last

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<v Speaker 4>night that he's I guess, suffering from blood clots. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>significant issue. We've seen this happen in the past with athletes,

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<v Speaker 4>but it seems like Christian barmore status is now kind

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<v Speaker 4>of being put on hold for the indefinite future, which

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<v Speaker 4>is just a big blow I think to the defense.

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<v Speaker 4>And of course you want Christian to be healthy, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest thing. But we talk about the team here, Tamara,

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<v Speaker 4>this is this is a big blow anyway you cut it.

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<v Speaker 4>He's an important young player.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very important. I feel like two days ago, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just saying, Wow, this guy has the caliber to

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<v Speaker 2>make it to the Pro Bowl this season. I was

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<v Speaker 2>so excited for him, especially after his contract and then

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the depth, Mike, you're always someone who's bringing

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<v Speaker 2>that up. With this defense, there's no one behind Judean,

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<v Speaker 2>There's no one behind Barmore that you think could play

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<v Speaker 2>at his level. So I want him to be healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>I want him to be out there, and I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>thinking who is going to step up and fill his shoes.

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<v Speaker 4>So we jumped into practice and we got to move

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<v Speaker 4>on and you know, today's first day of pads, very

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<v Speaker 4>exciting usually, and we saw some one on ones Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>But the big picture, I think that we watched practice separately,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, we come to this without without conferring.

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<v Speaker 4>But I thought an Okada for the number one offense

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<v Speaker 4>with Jacoby Brissett, we've settled kind of on the same

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<v Speaker 4>offensive line. I thought the run game particularly looked like

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<v Speaker 4>they hit a couple plays there. It wasn't overwhelming, it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't oh, you know, they're just making plays left and right,

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<v Speaker 4>but it felt like the semblance of an offense out

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<v Speaker 4>there today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I did think there were some times

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the cohesion was more in the seven on seven,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do think there were some some runs they hit. Stevenson,

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Harris had a little uh got a seam off

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<v Speaker 3>the left side on a play. So there were some

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<v Speaker 3>moments I thought. I thought it was a good first

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<v Speaker 3>step in pads. I thought there was some physicality, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for the most part, I thought it was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a stalemate up front. I thought, uh, you know, most

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<v Speaker 3>of the runs were kind of met with with resistance.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did like some of those plays that they hit.

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<v Speaker 3>And then that kind of you mentioned the first offense

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote the first offense. I thought that led to

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<v Speaker 3>some some plays for Jacoby Brissette. I thought this was

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<v Speaker 3>the most comfortable he's looked, you know, in training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe some baby steps there, you know, for that group,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we'll get to. The group that followed with

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<v Speaker 3>Drake May wasn't as much, but yeah, some some positive

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<v Speaker 3>science for preset.

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<v Speaker 4>Well let's jump right into its marre. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>just I from my vantage point, it just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a tough day for Drake May and I thought there was,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not a lot of protection up front. David

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<v Speaker 4>Andrews was also missing from practice, so I think a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of the trickle down effect at center might

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<v Speaker 4>have affected that a little bit. But just not a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of big plays, you know, just it seemed like

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<v Speaker 4>Drake was kind of struggling today line problems. As I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 4>what did you think of Drake's performance today?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wasn't expecting another interception today obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it went to Dugger again, who seems to always be

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<v Speaker 2>in the right place at the right time. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a tough one for him, especially if guys

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<v Speaker 2>continue to go down or be missing from practice. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to touch on Leyden Robinson, another rookie

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<v Speaker 2>who I thought flash today on the offensive line. Haven't

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<v Speaker 2>really heard his name much throughout camp, but today he

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<v Speaker 2>had a great one on one against deechurch Wise. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's been interesting to see, like another rookie and how

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<v Speaker 2>they continue to emerge throughout camp.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, Paul, what about you? What was your take?

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<v Speaker 4>Just kind of on that second offense with May And

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<v Speaker 4>again they're rotating a lot of guys, especially like the

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<v Speaker 4>wide receiver tight end position, so he's working with different bodies.

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<v Speaker 4>But but it just was clung out.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, just to me, I felt like, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of a continuation that we saw a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit on Sunday. I just felt like he was a

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<v Speaker 3>little late with some of his reads, the double pumps

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<v Speaker 3>he was starting to see too often, and some late

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<v Speaker 3>throws to the outside, like we looks unsure of himself.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, those are some things that he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to have to clean up. And I sort of talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this before camp started. What I want to see

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<v Speaker 3>is as camp goes on, something that I saw, say

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday or Tuesday, I don't see on Thursday at Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see how he takes that. I do think

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<v Speaker 3>it was a little choppy today for him and his receivers.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he had a couple of guys that he

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<v Speaker 3>sailed some balls on. You know, it might have been

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<v Speaker 3>others that weren't particularly open. So I think it's sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a work in progress for the entire group. It's quarterbacks, receivers,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the protection, it's everything. It's not just Drake May.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do think when you're dealing with an artistic

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback like Drake May, it's going to take some time

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<v Speaker 2>for his wide receivers to learn him especially as the

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<v Speaker 2>plays break down, and that has happened, happened a lot

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<v Speaker 2>over the past couple of days, just learning him, figuring out,

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<v Speaker 2>figuring him out, and knowing that the play is not

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<v Speaker 2>over even when the pocket breaks up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we did have Kaden Wallace back on a

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<v Speaker 4>left tackle, chooks a Kora four over on the right side.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I was able to catch a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of the one on one. You know, I thought I

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<v Speaker 4>thought that Wallace did okay, held his own. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of reps that I just saw going. It

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<v Speaker 4>seemed like Guce got around him. Jenning Z, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>he held his own. Fifty four Morgan, I thought he

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<v Speaker 4>held his own. But you know, there's a thing to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of watch quickly and it's just in a bubble.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the one on ones a tough to gauge. I thought. Overall,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it wasn't terrible today. I didn't think the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line, you know, they had some breakdowns obviously, But

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<v Speaker 3>the bigger thing for me was the lack of discipline

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<v Speaker 3>on offense in general. There were a lot of mistakes,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of false starts, a lot of pre snap penalties.

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<v Speaker 3>Talked to Austin Hooper about it afterward, and he just

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<v Speaker 3>talked about, you know, these are things that don't require talent,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, being able to stay on side. And it

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<v Speaker 3>got to the point where Mayo sort of sent the

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<v Speaker 3>whole offense running with one rep left. You know, there

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<v Speaker 3>was the very last set of eleven on eleven's and

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<v Speaker 3>it was four places for were set four place for

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<v Speaker 3>may and it was going to be four plays, and

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<v Speaker 3>after the third play with Joe Milton, he sent everybody running,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that you know, clearly tells you there was

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<v Speaker 3>some frustration from the coach. Now, Hooper thought that was

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<v Speaker 3>a really good sign from Mayo that you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta get this stuff straightened out now, and you

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<v Speaker 3>can decide, and Hooper had a colorful way to say it,

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<v Speaker 3>you can decide if you want to be a cross

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<v Speaker 3>country team or a football team. I'd rather be a

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<v Speaker 3>football team. But if you're not going to do the

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<v Speaker 3>things that you're supposed to do, you're gonna at least

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<v Speaker 3>be in good condition.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul and I liked that he did that when Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Milton had the ball, like because he could have easily

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<v Speaker 2>been like, okay, well you know this is our third

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<v Speaker 2>third string quarterback going in at third in for these reps,

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<v Speaker 2>and you could have let it slide, but he let it.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't let it keep going, and he made them

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<v Speaker 2>run during that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it felt like it kind of had built up.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean there's been there stars, Yeah, false starts. There

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<v Speaker 4>were a lot of laps run today, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>laps run, and a couple other housekeeping things. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't love seeing this. Jabill Peppers got banged up.

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<v Speaker 4>Looked like he went over to the trainer's table, tried

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<v Speaker 4>to come out and give it a go, look frustrated,

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<v Speaker 4>went back in. He did not finish practice. We had

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<v Speaker 4>a little scuffle. Josh Ujay I think got sent off.

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<v Speaker 4>And probably the thing that most people are wondering about is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we're watching first padded practice. Matthew Judon comes

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<v Speaker 4>out early before he is not in pads. He's out

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<v Speaker 4>to just you know, throw footballs to the fans like

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<v Speaker 4>he usually does. That preceded then we caught a sight

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<v Speaker 4>of a conversation with Jial Mayo. Wed later I caught

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<v Speaker 4>sight of him out in conversation with Elliott Wolf and

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<v Speaker 4>Matt grow He ended up walking off the field. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't get a great vibe. It's hard to tell what

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<v Speaker 4>was being said. We're not lip readers or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 4>but it just doesn't seem like the you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think when we started camp it was I'm here, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna figure it out, and you know, it just

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<v Speaker 4>it seems like maybe there's some sticking points or something,

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<v Speaker 4>because it seems like there's something going on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a great sign.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, yeah, yeah, it's not a great sign. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just wonder too, does it help when you're signing someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Jabil Peppers like forty eight hours ago, seeing another

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<v Speaker 2>guy get signed when you're still waiting for yours? Does

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<v Speaker 2>that build even more frustration? Obviously? I feel like on

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<v Speaker 2>social media he posted that he's happy for him and

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<v Speaker 2>he felt like he deserved it, but it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be tough to see yet another contract being signed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So for sure, there's a lot going on, and

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see what happens with Pepper's David Andrews. We mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>was out little trickle down effect. I think they're already

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<v Speaker 4>kind of hurt there at Center without Jake Andrews, So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, some shuffling and this is what happens you

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<v Speaker 4>get into camp, guys start getting banged up. But hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we still just got into pads today. We've got we

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<v Speaker 4>think another pads day tomorrow before and off day on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think, to Paul's point, looking at some of

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<v Speaker 4>the mistakes, some of the things to clean up, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow they can come out, limit those pre snap penalties,

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<v Speaker 4>not hurt themselves, and maybe they can have a day

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<v Speaker 4>where they'll grow Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and it was good to see Antonio Gibson out

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<v Speaker 2>there today, especially with him starting camp. You know one

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<v Speaker 2>what was it the NFI.

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<v Speaker 4>List seeing run from him today?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seeing him dressed and actually participating was a good sign.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well that's going to do it for us

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<v Speaker 4>for another Patriots training camp cast. And folks, we've got

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<v Speaker 4>five practices down. We got i think eight more to go,

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<v Speaker 4>thirteen totals, so we're cruising right along. Pads are on,

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<v Speaker 4>so it just got a little bit more fun, so

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<v Speaker 4>be true. Sure to tune in again tomorrow for another

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<v Speaker 4>recap of a padded practice.

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