1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: What's up. That's happy our listeners. We're so excited for 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: another week to be back with you guys. Becca. Always 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: great to be back with you, my girl, and then 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: just talk about all things Bachelor, and by that I 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: mean listen to your Heart. So Becca, I was thinking 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: about this the other day. I am so thankful for 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: our podcast, and for several reasons, because there are a 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: lot of Bachelor podcasts out there, which is fine, you know, 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: there's enough room for everybody, but they're all different. And 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: what I like so much about our podcast it's not 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: that it's just the official podcast. We're a podcast that's 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: always moving forward. We're always thinking of what's new, what's next. 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: We have great interviews with contestants from the shows. We 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: also have great interviews with celebrities, especially well celebrities that 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: are on Listen to your Heart. We get to talk 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: to them and we get to have very intimate and 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: deep discussions. You know, I'm glad we're not doing hot 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: topics because I feel like, and I'm about to go 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: on I'm ranting here, rambling, but you know, we get 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: a lot of questions, especially during quarantine. There's a lot 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: like going down in Bachelor Nation, with drama and honestly 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: things that I don't care to discuss, and I'm glad 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: that we don't. I'm glad, and I'm sorry for the 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: people who want that. I think there are other podcasts 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: that provide it, but I love that our podcast it 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: is what it is. It's rich, it's detailed, and it's 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: forward moving, which is how I want to be in 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: every aspect of my life. Anyways, And that being said, 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: right over, I love it. I love when you off. 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: I just I do. I just love what we are 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: building here with Bachelor Happy Hour, and I'm proud of it, 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: and I'm happy to have you as like my co host. 33 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't do this without you, Okay, all in my feelings, 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: it's that you know that it's that female time. So 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: like the y'all just bear with me because that's gonna 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: be my my mood from there the entire episode. But 37 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: today we've got so much for you, guys. We've got 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna break down, listen to your heart, talk all 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: the things about that. But we've also got two very 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: special guests that are joining us on the show today. 41 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: We've got Julia. Now I know you guys have burning 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: questions for Juliet, and we do two and we're gonna 43 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: talk to her and we're gonna try to get down 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: to the bottom of things and figure out what has 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: been going on because there's been a lot of drama 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: and honestly, Julia has been at the center of it. 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: We've also got none other than Shaggy. I'm actually gonna 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: have Becca say it because she says it with her 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: Midwestern accent. Thanky, who's coming on the show, who's come 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: all and everyone Bachelor Hatberel listeners. We do have Shaggy, Shaggy, Shaggy, 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: shaggy Shaggy. It's like when Darry makes fun of how 52 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: I say bag, it's the same with Shaggy so aka 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: mister bombasket. I can't even talkstick bombastick Shaggy, Shaggy Shaggy. Okay, well, 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: we've got him him on the podcast as well. We 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: are we are both fans, so eager and excited to 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: talk to him and we can't wait for you guys 57 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: to see his performance, which will be on next week's 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: episode of Listen to Your Heart. Yeah, Rachel, you hit 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: the nail on the head because when you say the podcast, 60 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: we always move forward. We're always looking looking into the 61 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: next week. And what I love most about this podcast, 62 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: and especially when we recap Listen to your Heart, is 63 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: that we not only have contestants from the show, but 64 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: we have these amazing artists that can give insight and 65 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: advice and background and just more depth to what we're 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: covering each week, because let's be honest, like I'm not 67 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: a musician, so I don't know what I'm talking about 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: half the time. So yes, as you mentioned, we do 69 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: have Julia now, Rachel, I know we have so many questions. 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: We will get into her very shortly because as you said, 71 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: she she is in the center of much of the 72 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: drama that takes place, which you know will recap that. 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: But I also can't. I don't everyone want to say 74 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: his name because you're just gonna make say you also 75 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: will have Shaggy, so I can't say I'm released him, like, 76 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: oh no, that's okay. I'm gonna try to say it 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: correctly like the Californians out here with Shaggy. That was perfect? 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: Is that it? I see it, But I feel really 79 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: uncomfortable when I say it that way, So I'm just 80 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna do me Shaggy, which and I feel like he's 81 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: coming on our podcast at the perfect time. He's re 82 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: releasing an album at the perfect time, because when we're 83 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: in quarantine, we all need a little pick me up, 84 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: we all need like just this kick of energy, and 85 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: he is providing that. So like, after this time, I 86 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: just have a reggae party on my balcony. Yeah, so 87 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: free to join me, everybody. But before I get ahead 88 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: of myself, we still have an episode to break down, 89 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: and we just have to every week. We just have 90 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: to start with the beginning because there's a lot to cover. 91 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: So from the beginning, Chris Harrison drops not only a bomb, 92 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: but like atomic bomb, where he's not just coming into 93 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: the mansion saying, listen up, everyone, I hope you're in 94 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: couples this week, because if you're not, you're leaving. He's saying, 95 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: you guys are already in couples, but we're gonna have 96 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: you dabble in other relationships to see what might just happen. 97 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: And so I I loved the look on everyone's face 98 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: when he mentioned this because you and you know, of 99 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: course he saved Julia and Brandon for the end, but 100 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: that like moment before he said the last name. Of course, 101 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: you knew it was going to be Brandon. You knew 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: it was gonna it wasn't gonna be Sheridan, it wasn't 103 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: going to be Savannah. But the look on everyone's faces, 104 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: I just got like it was so cringeworthy, but I 105 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: got it, sad to say, but such enjoyment out of it. Yeah. No, 106 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: My notes literally say this is the messiest shit I've 107 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: ever seen. So then we see the dates set up. 108 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: Jamie and Ryan are together, Chris and Rudy, Julia and Brandon, 109 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: which we knew. We knew the moment Chris Harrison said 110 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: that we knew what was happening. Ye, So we see 111 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: Chris and Rudy go on a date together, and I mean, 112 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: it's totally like a brosis setup. You can tell they're 113 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: cool with each other, they have a lot of respect. 114 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: They really didn't go on that much of a date 115 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: because they were in like a stone's throw away from 116 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: the mansion. I was like, what the hell was that? 117 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: I love the binoculars. Well, there was one point before 118 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: the date where okay, I wrote it down. Rudy goes 119 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: before she's leaving and she's like seeing Matt work out 120 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: and like with a shirt off hanging out with Natasha. 121 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: She goes, I'm jealous, Okay, I have problems, and in 122 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: this moment, I'm like, don't lose a girl. We need 123 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: to keep you here. You can't lose it now. I 124 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: did not want her to leave over like having Matt 125 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: hang out with Natasha for one day, so thankfully she 126 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: sticks from But yes, like the date with her and 127 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: Chris just friendship and it was cute, like they both, 128 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: I think, feel so confident in the relationships. Yeah that 129 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: I think the four of them with um what I have, 130 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: La Brie with Brie and then Matt, like the quadrant 131 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: that they have. I think that they're set in their relationships. 132 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: They're confident. It's good. Yeah, it's cute. I thought it 133 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: was a good It was like a therapy session. They 134 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: were able to talk to each other about their significant others, 135 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: and that's great because sometimes you need that male opinion, 136 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: sometimes you need that female opinion. Then we have Jamie 137 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: and Ryan on a SPA day. So they didn't initially 138 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: say they were on a SPA day at least I 139 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: missed that part. So I'm looking at Ryan and I'm like, Okay, Ryan, 140 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: I see this outfit. It's a vibe. It's a vibe. 141 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: We're really I mean, I liked it on him, and 142 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: then they go, we're on a spot. I go, okay, 143 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: I was talking about the road because I felt that 144 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: on an emotional level when I saw that, I know 145 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: how you feel about that robe Slipper's life. But I 146 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, he's got the low cut the linen. 147 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: I just didn't understand until they said it, and I 148 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: was like, got it. You have to ask. Yeah, But 149 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, what I thought was nice is that, 150 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, it seems like forever ago that Amy and 151 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: Ryan possibly could have been together since they met first 152 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: before any other contestants came into the mansion. So I 153 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: thought it was nice to see that they both realized 154 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: they've moved on. It's all good, there's no love lost, 155 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: and they're developing a friendship and it was really sweet. Yeah, 156 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: which I think goes to show like friendships can form 157 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: even though yes, like they went on one day they 158 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: had this makeout session, but it's not awkward. Like once 159 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: you get past that, and people are always like, isn't 160 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: it awkward seeing your exes or hanging out and it's like, no, 161 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: not really, depending on who it is, usually not no, yeah, no, 162 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: it's not. So then we get to the reason that 163 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: this whole messiness started. This is all for Julia and Brandon, right, 164 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: because how else can we get these two together who 165 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: so badly want to be together but don't know how 166 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: to leave the people that they're with. So it was 167 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: so sad. When Julie is about to go on the 168 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: State with Brandon and she's talking to Sheridan. I literally 169 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: was like I was listening to Julia and I said, Okay, 170 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: Sheridan's listening her, but mentally he's packing his bags. I 171 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: mean he was already sitting on the plane to Austin, 172 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: you know, like he's not a dummy. He knew what 173 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: was up. So I see Julianne Brandon go to the 174 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Roxy and if they have this intimate date where there's 175 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, how romantic is it to write a song 176 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: with someone? And the song that they wrote wasn't half bad. 177 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty dang good. It was for 178 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: getting on the fly like that quickly to throw that 179 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: together with not only like the lyrics, but the guitar 180 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: and the vocals, and I thought it was good. It 181 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: sounded like journal entries. These were the journal. No, it 182 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: was good. I agree, but I'm saying like they've been 183 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: writing this stuff down for weeks until they at this moment. 184 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: They took forever for them to come back. They knew it, 185 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the writing was on the wall. They were prepared for 186 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: the worst, praying for the best. And I don't know 187 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: in both their situations. This is to quote the great 188 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: Garth Brooks, thank God for unanswered prayers. That's just an 189 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: illusion to what happens in the future. But you know, 190 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: fast forward to then when they do come back and 191 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: they have Julia has this like this gut wrenching conversation 192 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: with Sheridan and he the part that really got to 193 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: me was him questioning, like something must be wrong with me? 194 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: What's wrong with me? Why can't I keep a good 195 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: girl around? Like to hear him say that, I was 196 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: getting the chills, Like, nobody, it's not you like you, 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: This isn't you. This is on them and it's so 198 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: sex I feel like in any breakup, like, let's be honest, everyone, 199 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: that thought crosses everyone's head, like what did I do wrong? 200 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: What could I have done differently? Is it me? And 201 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: you see that with him in that moment, and I 202 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: just I felt for him. It was very, very sad. 203 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: And then you see like a whole one eighty flip 204 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: flop scenario with Savannah and Brandon. She's like, hmm, I'm 205 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: not going to be your second choice, Like, don't call 206 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: me sweetie, don't call me baby. I'm not going to 207 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: be a backup. I okay. When Julia comes back to 208 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: break up with Sheridan, you're you're skipping the part where 209 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: she says to him, he's very matter of fact. He's like, 210 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: don't toy with me. Basically, he's like, don't to him 211 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: if he just tell me what it is. And she's 212 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: stuttering over what she's gonna say, and then all he 213 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: does is ask questions. He doesn't curse, he doesn't raise 214 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: his voice, and she says, I don't know why you're 215 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: being so mean to me about it? What what dot F? 216 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: I will say? So Garrett was watching this scene with 217 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: me and and he's well because he's going back to school, 218 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: so he's not fully paying attention to the show. He's 219 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: kind of like offerating his book but still tuning in. 220 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: He goes she seems manipulative. That was like the one 221 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: word that came out of his mouth, and I was like, well, 222 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: kind of yeah, like, Sheridan's not getting mad, Sheridan's not 223 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: getting angry at you. He's simply addressing the situation that 224 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: you brought to him. And he, obviously rightly so, has 225 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: questions and wants answers. And I thought the way that 226 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: she treated him, like why are you getting anger at me? 227 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: Why are you being mean to me? Was so off 228 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: and off base, like I don't know, like there has 229 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: to be some disconnect somewhere. Oh, it was. This is manipulation. 230 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: One on one. Garrett is right, and this was very 231 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: for our listeners. If you're if you're new and you 232 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: just are listening to listen, are you just watching listen 233 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: to your heart Peter season of The Bachelor, This is 234 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: very circa Peter Victoria f right, like, you don't take 235 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: any blame for yourself, you displaced, You put the blame 236 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: on someone else, and that's that deflecting and that's exactly 237 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: what she was doing. So oh, Julia, Sharon fine. Sharonan 238 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: gets in the car like you said, I okay, I 239 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: have a confession. I told you it's that time. It's 240 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: that time. I am not lying never in my life 241 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: have I ever shed a tear watching any show of 242 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: this franchise. I cried when Sheardan went home. Yeah, I'm 243 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, this is so 244 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm crying. I legit. Anybody, you can't 245 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: tell me anything bad about sharedon I don't want to 246 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: hear it. I'm gonna be as stubborn as as as 247 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: I want to with this one. I my heart broke 248 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: for him. This man was loyal, he was patient, he 249 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: was dedicated to her in a way that she never 250 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: was with him. And it broke my heart watching him 251 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: drive away, And I legitimately cried because I could tell 252 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: that he was trying not to And when he let 253 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: it go in the car, I let it go with him. 254 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: I let it go. Yes, it was heartbreaking, and it 255 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: was so said, I wrote in my notes. Can we well? 256 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: First of all, I really would love to have him 257 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: on the podcast and get his side of things. Also, 258 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be upset if he was on the Bachelor. 259 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: We got to find him some nice girls. He won't 260 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: do well on the Bachelor. Let's just go to Spain. 261 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: But this is want to find someone sure and if 262 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: you are listening. I have a lot of nice Minnesota 263 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: girlfriends who are single back home, and they will treat 264 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: you right, honey. Yeah, unfortunately, No, please please hit her 265 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: up about that. They won't. The Bachelor won't be your place. 266 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: That's what's so great about listening to your heart because 267 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: it's about the music and it's about the chemistry and 268 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: the connection. It's not about appearances in a certain way, 269 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: like I actually like his look and his vibe, but 270 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't fit like the cookie cutter vibe that is, 271 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: you know when you're on the Bachelor Bachelorette. Unfortunately, so 272 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: you know how we do it. We can keep going 273 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: and going and going. And I want to get to 274 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: the performances because I was there for them, and so 275 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: maybe I can give you some inside scoop. But I 276 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: want to get your take on the Natasha Julia Brandon situation. 277 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: What did you think about what Natasha said and her 278 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: timing of what she said. I think two things in 279 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: this conversation, well, in this entire situation that stuck out 280 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: to me. One when Natasha the next day was sitting 281 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: down with Brandon and Ryan was there and Julia was there, 282 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: and she the whole like earmuffs thing that she had 283 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Julia do. It's like, if you're going to ask it 284 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: in front of all these other people, it's going to 285 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: be played back on TV. Don't tell her to put 286 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: earmuffs on. Just ask in front of her. And that 287 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: would have been much better timing for Julia to hear 288 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: his response and to witness it and to see how 289 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: he reacts to the question. Then when Natasha then told 290 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: her right before they're all about to perform, I think 291 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: her timing was off. I think it was a good 292 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: question on Natasha's end to ask if she's genuinely curious, 293 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: because let's be honest, Brandon seems like he's all over 294 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: the place, and so I'm glad she asked him, but 295 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: I wish that she would have just let Julia hear 296 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: and see his response. Right, No, how does your percent 297 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: agree with you? So that trickles over into the performances, 298 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: which I was fortunate enough with Brian to be one 299 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: of the judges. It was such a fun time, which 300 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: let me say, you looked so freaking good when you 301 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: walked out. Well, I texted you this, Rachel, get you're 302 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: guarante tuned it on this part He's like, Dang, Rachel's 303 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: good up there. Like the way that you spoke to 304 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: the couples, and you like I think all of the 305 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: judges do an amazing job these past couple of weeks. 306 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: But it was good and it was so fun to 307 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: watch you up there. You looked like fire. I had 308 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: a blast. I was honored, Thank you so much for that. 309 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: I was honored to be a judge. I was trying 310 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: to be careful with my words because last time I 311 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: was a judge, it wasn't well received, So I was 312 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: trying to be a little bit more, you know, straight 313 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: line in what I was saying. But I wanted to 314 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: encourage them because I did think everyone was really talented 315 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: on stage. So popping off the whole set for that 316 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: night those performances at the Novo Theater downtown in LA 317 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: was Rudy and Matt, who I personally thought had the 318 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: best performance of the night. They sang Tennessee Whiskey, one 319 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: of my favorite songs, a song I learned about while 320 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: I was on next season of the Bachelor's shout out 321 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: to Danielle Maltby who taught me that song, and I 322 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: think more than anybody, Rudy and Matt performed the best 323 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: together and their harmonies are the best. They really really 324 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: aren't sync, I will say so. And I last time, 325 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: when I watched the performance from last week, I said, 326 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: Rudy solo show. I mean, it's no surprise. I'm obsessed 327 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: with Rudy. I think she's by far one of the 328 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: best singers I've ever heard. But Matt, I will say, 329 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: really stepped up in this performance, and he did amazing. 330 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: I felt like last week I kind of missed his vocals, 331 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: and maybe it's just because Rudy was like shining so bright, 332 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: but when he started, I well, and this is what 333 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: I wrote for his voice, I just have the word 334 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: velvet underlined, like it was so good, so smooth. It 335 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: really I think started off the show strong because you 336 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: kind of need to set the bar fairly high, especially 337 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: in the competition like this, and they did just that. 338 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: Like I loved it. I want to see them perform 339 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: if they had their own show or they just sang 340 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: the entire time. Caught me in Yeah, No, they were amazing. 341 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: And then there was Trevor and Jamie kind of the 342 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: opposite end of the spectrum. They sang a song I'm 343 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: Gonna love You like I'm Gonna Lose You. I love 344 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: that song. I thought that Jamie had gotten her nerves 345 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: out last week and we understood why she's nervous. We 346 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: understood it, we forgave it, we got it, and I 347 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: thought moving forward she was going to put that to 348 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: the side, especially since she has a partner who's so supportive, 349 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: and she didn't. She was even more nervous, and it 350 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: showed in their performance. I thought they were off And honestly, 351 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: I think that her emotion is exhausting, and I like Jamie, 352 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: it's just heavy. It's a lot, and Trevor's always having 353 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: to reassure her and that came out in their performance. 354 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: They did not connect at all. Yeah, I think he 355 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: did a solid job of trying to steer her back 356 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: on track. You know, you could kind of see her 357 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: going off, and you could, I mean me as a viewer, 358 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: I could feel the nerves coming through and it was 359 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: I think you used this word last week for her. 360 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: It was a bit pitchy for me. It wasn't terrible, 361 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: but you could just tell something wasn't aligning there. But 362 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job of kind of 363 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: bringing a back raining her in like holding a very 364 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: like solid level for that performance, but it wasn't by 365 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: far my favorite. And I just want her And I 366 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: think I said this last week too. I mean, she's good, 367 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: She's really good. She just needs to get the nerves 368 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: out and to have a little bit more confidence when 369 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: she performs. And granted, maybe it could be, as Chris 370 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: Harrison said, one of the biggest venues and crowds that 371 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: some of them have performed, and that could be it. 372 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: But she just needs to have faith in herself. You 373 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: know who I thought about when I was watching her, 374 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: Kyote Ugly the girl, the lead singer. I was like, 375 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: she writes she likes to perform with the lights off. 376 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: Like I felt like, if we just turned the lights 377 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: off for Jamie, I feel like she'll be comfortable, you know, 378 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: if they let her. If she sings, can't fight the 379 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: moonlight later in this show, I'm freaking psychic, she'd crush up. Okay, 380 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: So then we see christ and Breed they sing Lover 381 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. It was romantic, it was cute, it was sweet. 382 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: I said all the things on stage. I loved it, 383 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: Tony loved it. I just have to say side note, 384 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: it was really cool to share the stage with Tony 385 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: Braxon in Andy gomer I did imagine it was great. Rich. 386 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a jealous Betty, but I am. 387 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm so jealous that you were there. How amazing. One 388 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: thing that I really liked that Andy Grammar called out 389 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: for their performance is Chris's falsetto is Gold. Yeah, it's 390 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: so good when he like not many men can hit 391 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: those high notes and he just does it so flawlessly. 392 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't my favorite song choice, but I think them 393 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: together obviously, Yeah, they're in love and you felt that, 394 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: and so it was a good performance. It was really sweet. 395 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: I wrote down what he said when he was like 396 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: which also was interesting to watch as a judge because 397 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: I was there in real time. We have no idea 398 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: all the backstory and what's going on behind stage. People 399 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: are crying, people are getting into it. There's drama, and 400 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: we're just like watching a show. So it's weird now 401 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: that I see that all this other stuff was happening. Yea, 402 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: and they get on stage and there's nothing. Well, that's 403 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: to ask you as a judge, did you get any 404 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: inkling to anything that was going on with any of 405 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: the couples or was it simply you sat there, they 406 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: came out, you know, two at a time, performed, and 407 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: that was that you had no idea of, like, yeah, 408 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: we didn't know one girl's crying or no, one couple's 409 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: about to break up or whatever it might be. No. No, 410 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: that's why you hear me say things like and we'll 411 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: get to Julian Brandon. I'm glad I got that backstory 412 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: because we didn't know that. Yeah. Um so, one thing 413 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: I did want to note about christ and Bree because 414 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: they are just so sweet. When he said quote I 415 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: would tell my dad that I met the sweetest woman 416 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: in the world, and I think that she's perfect for me. 417 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: Because he shares that he had lost his dad. I 418 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: thought that that was so beautiful. I just I wrote 419 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: it down and I even rewound it so I couldn't 420 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: get the exact quote. Loved it. Yeah, So, Julian Brandon, 421 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: you know this good that that's what that's where we 422 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: need to get to. That's the tea. So Julian Brandon, 423 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: get on stage. Now you saw my my I said, 424 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: it was like karaoke in real life. They booed me 425 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: and Julie encouraged it. So what I have been itching 426 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: to tell you, Becca is that I knew so I 427 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: didn't know the backstory behind it, but you realize I 428 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: saw Julia and Brandon performed together. So I have been 429 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: curious this whole time. Does how does he get from 430 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: Savannah to Julia? Because what I watched months ago was 431 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: those two together, and I remember watching and Tony said 432 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: the same thing. Tony said, they seemed like they were fighting, 433 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: and it did. It just was like she was pulling 434 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: so much for him and he was just doing his 435 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: own thing playing. They did not seem together at all. 436 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: So now to see the background of it, I'm like, 437 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: I get it. Disconnect comes from well, and that's one 438 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: thing that I wrote in my notes. It felt like 439 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: they don't match when they're performing, and that like it 440 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: was just being forced. Like it seemed it just me 441 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: as the viewer for the thirty seconds I saw of it, 442 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: it just it wasn't in sync. Yeah, so how's that? 443 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was an interesting song choice, we Belong 444 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: to the Night. Anything don't really know that song. I 445 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: was like, come on, buddy, I'm not in a Brandon 446 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: as a performer. I'm just not well and I'm yeah, 447 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: I think out of and this is me just and 448 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: my reference to what I listened to. I think out 449 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: of the group, he's maybe one of the weakest singers. 450 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: I think. I know I'm being it's my personal bias 451 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: because of just how he's been in the show. Like 452 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: it's like, I can't I'm just being honest, I'm being 453 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: so biased because of how he's been. They end the 454 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: show with Natasha and Ryan and they sing You Are 455 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: the Best Thing, which is one of my favorite It's 456 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: one of my favorite songs. So I was already sold 457 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: just by the song choice in general. Yeah, and it 458 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: brought us to our feet. It was such a fun song. 459 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: This song choice ray La Monting is such a better 460 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: fit for Ryan. I mean last week when him and 461 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: Natasha performed and it was to Rihanna, it was so 462 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: off for him. It didn't feel like him. And so 463 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: when they I'm so glad that they picked this song 464 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: because he know, in my eyes, kind of stepped it 465 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: up a little bit more. I know last week Jason 466 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: mur said Natasha could like sing circles around him and 467 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: would just take off, which of course, yes, I mean, 468 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: she is incredible. She's just like she has like these 469 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: powerhouse lungs. I don't know where it comes from, but 470 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: this I think was so much better geared towards him. 471 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: So I'm glad that they chose this one. Now you 472 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: see why I've been like I love Ryan. I love 473 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: Ryan because this is the performance that I saw from him, 474 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: and it was even better live. So've I didn't see 475 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: the other you know, the other songs he was singing, 476 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: so this, this was more as fit and any grammar 477 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: actually even said it didn't play. He said, Ryan, or 478 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: do you feel more comfortable singing in front of the guitar, 479 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: because I felt like you came alive when you had 480 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: the guitar in your hands, And he said, yes, I'm 481 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: singing at the guitar. So Andy kind of caught on 482 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: what his vibe is. It was good. I think performance wise, 483 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: they it was good. It was a great song choice. 484 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: I but and and maybe it's because we do see 485 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: the backstory. But even to compared to like Brie and 486 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: Chris and and even some of the other couples, I 487 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: don't know how long the last outside of this as 488 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: a couple christ and relationship, no, no, Natasha and Ryan, 489 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: like compared to I will say I know, last week 490 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: I said that she seems very professional in their relationships. 491 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: Now she's putting on a performance. This week, I did 492 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: feel like they had more of a connection, and I'm 493 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: not based on the performance, just how I saw them 494 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: move about in the house. They do really seem to 495 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: like each other. They're just like real chill. So yeah, 496 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: I saw more of a progression in their relationship. But 497 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: we've already teased the top of the show that we 498 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: have two guests Got Shaggy, and one of them is Julia, 499 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: And so Julia has been at the middle of a 500 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: lot of drama, whether it's with Savannah, another woman in 501 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: the house, whether it's between the triangle she has with 502 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: Sheridan and Brandon. There's just a lot there. And Julia 503 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: is honestly one of my favorite female voices in the house, 504 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: one of them. But then it's hard to ignore everything 505 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: else that's going in the house. So I want to 506 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: discuss Julia for a bit, Becca before we bring her on, 507 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: because we're going to have her on in just a moment. 508 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: But there's certain things that are just like hard for 509 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: me to ignore when it comes to Julia, because I 510 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 1: do understand, and that's why I'm eager to talk to her. 511 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: I know that there's always another side to the story, 512 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: and I want to give her the opportunity and I 513 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: know you do, too, the opportunity to talk about that. 514 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: But there's so many things she speak, speaks in such 515 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: exaggeration that it bothers me. People are mean, they're a bully, 516 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: they're disingenuous there, it's just everything is just so exaggerated 517 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 1: that it's just hard for me to see any other 518 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: side of her. And I'm curious as to how you feel. Well, 519 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: So here's the thing, and people, I know it seems 520 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: like we're just ragging on Julia. We're not trying to. 521 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: We're simply giving our opinions and what we're seeing week 522 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: by week in this show. And if you don't agree 523 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: with us, that's totally okay. You don't have to. But 524 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: this is how we feel. And I think people and 525 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: us included, need to remember there's so much that we 526 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: don't see, Like we literally only see two hours every 527 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: week of what's been filmed twenty four seven. All right, Rachel, 528 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: So of course, I mean Julia has been the center 529 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: of most of the drama, so we just need to 530 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: hear it from her first, I think we need to 531 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: get her side of things. So, without further ado, everyone 532 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: please welcome Julia. Well, hi Julia, how's it going. Hi good? 533 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: How are you guys? Thanks for having me? Well? Thanks good. 534 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: We're happy to have in the show. Yeah, well we 535 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: are because you know, we've watched the past couple episodes 536 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: back and of course we have many questions. You have 537 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: unfortunately been part of some of the drama, so we're 538 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: happy to have you on to get your side of things. 539 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: I was just telling Rage there's when you go into 540 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: filming what we're seeing as viewers. It's only two hours 541 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: once a week of what's being filmed twenty four seven, 542 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: so there's so much back end that we as the 543 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: viewers are privy to see, and so of course we 544 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: want to get your take on everything. But to sert 545 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: things off before we get into all of that, how 546 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: have you been doing holding up during quarantine? I mean 547 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: it's been affected by the last two episodes, but I'm 548 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: doing I'm doing okay. You know, I'm I'm hanging in there, 549 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: especially Ken. I mean, quarantine drives everyone crazy, and I'm 550 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: sure it's not easy. Trust me, I know it's not easy. 551 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: Watching yourself back week after week and so with no 552 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: social release too. Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean your voice 553 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: is fire, Julia, and it's one of our favorite voices. 554 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: It's one of our favorites. When you sang with Sheridan 555 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: when you did the Radio Day, it sounds like y'all 556 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: were like it was a track playing and you have 557 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: a beautiful voice, Julie. I did say this on one 558 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: of our episodes a couple of weeks ago. I don't know. 559 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why I expected this. When you sing, 560 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: I was like picturing because I felt like you're so poised, 561 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: like some operatic vocals to come out, and when you sing, 562 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: I was so blown away, but in the best possible way. 563 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: I just wasn't expecting it. And when I was watching 564 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: you in that first performance at the radio stations, like, dang, 565 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: she's got vocal, she's got some lungs. Thank you, just 566 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: very tealesome of anyone who knows, because you hear so 567 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: many people sing, and it wasn't until that moment that 568 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: we were like, oh my gosh, we haven't heard Julie 569 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: sing yet because we don't remember that. Yeah, it was 570 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: really good. Thank you, Thank you so much, So starting out, 571 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: how was I mean overall between all of the drama 572 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: and the performances and still being able to showcase yourself 573 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: and your performances to the world, Like, what was your 574 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: overall experience and takeaway from being on Listen to your Heart? 575 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: I loved being almost in your heart, you know. I 576 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: made what I believed to be lifelong friends there, you know, 577 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: And I am saddened that the drama that I was 578 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: involved with kind of overshadowed probably what you know, America 579 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: perceived as the vibe at the mansion. You know, like 580 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: you said, you only get to see, you know, two 581 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: hours or one and a half hours with commercials of 582 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: what happened over the course of a longer stretch of time. 583 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: And I mean it was a mansion filled with super 584 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: talented musicians and all just hoping to fall in love 585 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: and find their path through their dream before going on. 586 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: Were you a fan of The Bachelor and about Charette? 587 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: Have you seen any episodes or did you just go 588 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: in totally blind? So I grew up kind of watching 589 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: with my mom. I actually remember watching um Tristan's season 590 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: of the Bacharette like yeah, first one, yeah, and then 591 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: I fell out of it. I didn't stay on top 592 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: of it. But then when I when this show came 593 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: to light for me, I Binge watched um Bashroom Paradise 594 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: and the last couple of seasons A Bathroom Bachos. You 595 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: kind of knew what we're getting into a little bit, 596 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: which I think they have hurt me in the long 597 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: run because I assumed it would be like Bashroom Paradise. 598 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: So when we worked old You're now coupled up and 599 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: this is it, I was like, oh, Okay, this is 600 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: different than what I expected. Yeah, well, and that's something. Oh, 601 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, that's something that we have 602 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: talked about. I mean we even the fact that like 603 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: this upcoming episode when Chris comes in and he's like, hey, 604 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: you guys are already in couples, but now we're gonna 605 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: stir the pot and put you in different couples, Like 606 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: we've never seen anything like that happened on the show before, 607 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: So I mean it was sometime new for us. All Yeah. Um, 608 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: I feel like the cast was entirely on edge every 609 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: single day because it was just like a new twist. 610 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: You know. I think you can have a game plan 611 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: when you are like people could have a game plan 612 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: when they go into any of the other shows, but 613 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: we were seriously, druly going in aligned and so I 614 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: think it definitely heightened certainly my stress level. Well, I 615 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: think that that's why it's a favorite of ours. I mean, 616 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: I didn't watch The Bachelor, Bachelor, Bachelorette prior to being 617 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: on the show. And what I love so much about 618 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: Listen to your Heart is that it's off the beaten path. 619 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: So every week we have no idea what to expect, 620 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: and that's what makes it so intriguing and it's it's honestly, 621 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: it might be my favorite Bachelor franchise show, to be honest. 622 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: But you said something that stuck with me. You said 623 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: that when Chris Harrison came in and said this is 624 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: it and you're coupled up, it was kind of like whoa, 625 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: as if maybe you thought it is like Bachelor and 626 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: Paradise and I can test the waters more so at 627 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: that point when Chris Harrison said that you were coupled 628 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: up with shared it. So I want to go back 629 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: like night one, you meet Sheridan, you talked to Brandon, 630 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: there was obviously interest between both of them, but you 631 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: ultimately ended up settling with Sheridan. So what was it 632 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: about Sheridan where you were like, you know what, this 633 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: is where I'm going to start or plant my roots? Yeah, 634 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: lack of better words, to be honest, Brandon reminded me 635 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: of every guy I've ever dated and that's been unsuccessful. 636 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: So I kind of there were red flags from the 637 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: beginning for me with him, so I kind of pushed 638 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: it away even though there was that initial spark. Sheridan 639 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: and I off the bat had this amazing and really genuine, 640 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: deeper connection and I knew he was the kind of 641 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: man that I should have in my life. It doesn't 642 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: necessarily always mean it's the man that you you know. 643 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: It's so hard, it's been so hard for me to 644 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: watch it back, honestly, but I I was happy to 645 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: be with Sheridan. I just also had this connection with 646 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: Brandon that I wasn't quite willing to give up because 647 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: it had only been you know, eight whatever days at 648 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: that point, and I did. I was under the impression 649 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: that we would be still exploring those options and uh yeah, 650 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: looking back now, and you know, hindsight is always what 651 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: is it fifty fifty twenty twenty twenty twenty, Because you're 652 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: seeing it twenty two. Thank you, Rachel. I'm so bad 653 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to remembering anything. But in hindsight, do 654 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: you at this point regret not choosing Sheridan at the 655 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: end of it? Yeah? Absolutely, And I hope he hears 656 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: this because I absolutely regret um not choosing him. And 657 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: I think I think the stakes were so high, you know, 658 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: in a and too being there to find love. We 659 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: were all dreamers that were there to achieve a dream. 660 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: And I think when I heard like you have to 661 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: couple up, I honestly panicked. I was like, well, shoot, 662 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: I better make sure who I'm with is the right person. 663 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: That didn't mean that I went about it the right 664 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: way at all. I certainly did not, But my way 665 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: of going about it also didn't mean that Sheridan wasn't 666 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: the right person. It's hard when it's not only you 667 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: focused on the guys, but that other girls are focused 668 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: on the guys as well. And that's something that Rachel 669 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: and I as the leads, as the Bachelords, didn't have 670 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: to deal with because there was no other distractions and 671 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: we were free to go about and explore those relationships 672 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: for as long as we wanted. Here you have to 673 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: couple up and that's it, and that's the couple. Yeah, 674 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: certainly up the stress level, I think in the house, 675 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: especially for me, you know, I lead with my emotions. 676 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: That is not always a good thing. I am an 677 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: open book. I did stay even brutally honest with Sheridan 678 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: at every point. I told him that I still had 679 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: feelings for Brandon. And it breaks my heart that people 680 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: think that my connection with him on stage was disingenuous, ironically, 681 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: because that is actually where Sheridan and I connected the most, 682 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: was through the music, and that was actually the most 683 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: beautiful part of this experience for me. Was you know, 684 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: Sheridan and I always say that we would have never 685 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: met at a bar, like he and I would never 686 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: have gone up to each other at a bar, so 687 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: we would have only met through an experience like this 688 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: and playing music together deep in that connection for us. 689 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: You know, you didn't get to see on our date 690 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: we had. We sat on the couch and prepped the 691 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: song that we sang, but we also sat and jammed 692 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: to other music and harmonized together, and really beautiful moments 693 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: like that didn't air. And but that doesn't mean that 694 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: they weren't there, and they weren't real. So I guess, Julia, 695 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: you say now that you hope that Sheridan hears what 696 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: you're saying, and you know you've you've kind of changed 697 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: your mindset is and I want to give you the 698 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to speak towards this. Why is that? And the 699 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: reason I'm saying why is that? Is because is it 700 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: because you tried it with Brandon and it fell? So 701 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: you know it didn't work? There is it? Because time? Like? 702 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: Why why are you so matter of fact now? Because 703 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: I think the easy answer for the audience with to 704 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: be or to think is oh, well, yeah, of course 705 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: you think that because it didn't work out with Brandon. 706 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: But why is that? Like, if Sheridan we're listening right now, 707 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: why is it we talked all the time after filming 708 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: we did. I reached out to him and I was 709 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: reminded of the true connection that we had while there, 710 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, since the most recent episodes have aired, that 711 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: has kind of feast for now at least. But it's 712 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a multiple multitude of reasons. I knew 713 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: and I did say this in my ITMS too, that 714 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: like Sheridan was the type of man that I would marry. 715 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: Um he is so genuine and has an amazing heart, 716 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 1: and um uh saw me for you know, probably saw 717 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: what I could be too at a time when I 718 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: wasn't my best. So um, you know, it's been hard 719 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: to realize that I threw that away. So and it 720 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with you know, Brandon falling through 721 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: with Brandon, you know, had I oh, yeah, all right. 722 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean I I think your emotion is real. And 723 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: I I told Becca before you got on here. I 724 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: legitimately cried when Sheridan left. So it's actually nice to 725 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: hear that what we saw was really how he is. 726 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: And I honestly, Juliet, I feel like you made a 727 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: mistake that a lot of women and men make. I'll 728 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: just be honest with you. You know it. Yes, you 729 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: were at the center of a lot of drama. Yes 730 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: we can get into that, but just talking about what 731 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: you're talking to now, I and Becca, I would love 732 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: for you to speak to this too. I know at 733 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: the end of my bachelorette journey, I was stuck with 734 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: the guy that I was used to dating and the 735 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: guy that I didn't think I deserved because I was 736 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: used to dating a certain type of man. And it 737 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: sounds like that's the dilemma that you were in. And 738 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: maybe we have as bachelorettes, have a little bit more 739 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: time to explore that that you didn't, and so maybe 740 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: you didn't make the best decisions going You tried it, 741 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: but then you still need to explore the other relationship 742 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: to figure out what you really wanted. And I don't 743 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: think that that's wrong, And it's actually refreshing to hear 744 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: you say that, because you're not alone. We all do that. 745 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: It took me until I was in my thirties. I 746 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: always say that my now husband, who I met from 747 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: the show, I never would have been ready for him 748 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: even three years, even two years before I went on 749 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: the show, you know saw that timing. Yeah. Well, and Rachel, 750 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: as you said, we've all, like, let's be honest, we're human. 751 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: Everyone has gone back to an X that they know 752 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: is bad for them. Everyone has been drawn to that 753 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: bad boy or that bad girl that they know isn't 754 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: necessarily going to be lasting. But we all do it 755 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: because it's just in our nature, I think, and it's 756 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: you get to a certain point, and Rachel, you said, 757 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: you know you just needed time and to grow up 758 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: a little bit and for me, like before the show, 759 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: I was there, I went back to this x so 760 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: many times you couldn't even count. Every time it was like, Oh, 761 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: my family was like, are you gonna do it? Over 762 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: and over? And when is it going to end? Like 763 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: we've all done it, We've all felt that heartbreak, and 764 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: I think we all get to a point in our 765 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: lives where we're like, we can't keep doing that same 766 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: thing over and over. And Juliet, it sounds like from 767 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: from what you experienced through the show and between Sheridan 768 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: and Brandon and now even just watching it back, you know, 769 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: in a new viewpoint, with a new view and new eyes, Um, 770 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: maybe that's maybe this is your moment where you've realized that. Um. 771 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: But going and speaking to Sheridan when you speak so 772 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: highly of him, and how Rachel said she cried when 773 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: he left. He made a really good point. And I 774 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: don't know if this is going to be too hard 775 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: to hear, but he did say, like, you know, she's 776 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: always gone for the wrong guys and the bad guys, 777 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: and I would be different, And to hear him, I 778 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: think he just had more insight maybe to the relationship 779 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: and what he could provide to you. But that just 780 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: shows the heart and the head that he has on him. Um. 781 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: And he did seem like a solid dude, so we 782 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: of course were sad to see him go. Um. But 783 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: and who knows what would have happened maybe. I mean, 784 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: do you think, like, had you chosen Brandon earlier on 785 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: and not Sheridan, do you think you guys would have 786 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: made it further in the season. Nor Brandon sucks, Julia 787 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: Brandon sucks. I mean, there's no way around it. It sucks. 788 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I did not appreciate the way um 789 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: and especially watching back now, I'm like, girl, wake up, 790 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: like to hear the way he talks to you, you know. Um, 791 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: So I actually think and I had said, I actually 792 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 1: said this the morning shared and got a day card. 793 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: I was like, I'd really love a day card because 794 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: I already know I have something so solid with Sheridan. 795 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: I'd love to go on a date with Brandon to 796 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: see kind of like how that goes. And I think, 797 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: because that didn't happen that way, it was this gnawing 798 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: like feeling at me. Quite frankly, my heart and I 799 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: have lost sleep over this. My heartbreaks because I think 800 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: had sharedan and I stayed together through it. We could 801 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: have taken it all the way. Um, I do believe that. 802 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: I think musically we just so fit well together and 803 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: we worked well together. And yeah, it's heartbreaking for me 804 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: and for me to think of him feeling that too. 805 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think y'all could have gone 806 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: all the way too. I want to get into, you know, 807 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: talking about Brandon that the day that after Sheridan and 808 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: Savannah left and it was you and Brandon free to 809 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: now kind of explore what you guys could be and 810 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: he's calling you babe and sweetie, which we saw he 811 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: did the same to Savannah. Was he ever upfront in 812 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: those moments with you of Like, Yeah, I tried to 813 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: get Savannah back. I told her I went on the 814 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: state with Julia wanted to work things out with Savannah? 815 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: Like did he? Was he ever fully honest with you 816 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: in that moment? No? And I think that, you know, 817 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: I can't fault Brandon for being torn because I was torn, 818 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: But I can say that he, you know, much like 819 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: I should have perhaps taken out my frustrations. I took 820 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: them out on the wrong person and I took them 821 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: out on Savannah. Should have taken them out on Brandon. 822 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: He should have been more upfront with both me and Savannah, 823 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: and that was that was actually why I kind of spiraled, 824 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: not kind of, I totally spiraled, because when Savannah and 825 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: he coupled up originally, he didn't then circle back and 826 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: have any kind of conversation with me, So that was 827 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: really disappointing, and he continued to kind of play those 828 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: games even after Savannah was gone. Yeah, so we've seen 829 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: the Tasha tell you in this episode that he basically 830 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: says to Savannah, if this if you want to make 831 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: this work, then I will choose you and make this work. 832 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,959 Speaker 1: And I agree her timing it wasn't the right time. 833 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: But I know you were very bothered by the timing 834 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,439 Speaker 1: of her saying that you didn't believe what she said 835 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 1: to you, and you even referred to her as mean 836 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: and as a bully. Now, knowing what you know, what 837 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: do you think about the information that Natasha presented to you. 838 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: I still feel like her timing was way off and 839 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: out of line. I think that was the problem with 840 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 1: Natasha in general. In the house. You know, she had 841 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: information that she shared kind of just so she would 842 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: she just dropped these bombs out of nowhere and we 843 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: were having such a great day at the Novo, everyone 844 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: was doing sound check and we're being judged on our 845 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: chemistry and she kind of just threw this rent in there. 846 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: So I think I would have taken it better had 847 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: she done it right when she learned the information. Well, so, 848 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: which leads me to ask you. We see the part 849 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: where Natasha tells, you know, okay, earmuffs cover the ears. 850 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask Brandon a tough rush. Yeah, and 851 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: then she goes on to say, you know, if Savannah 852 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: would have stayed, would you be with her? And he 853 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: goes yes, do you just wish at that moment? Well 854 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: two things, Ay, you would have just listened in at 855 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: that moment and not thrown on those earmuffs and be 856 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: what are Yeah? I wouldn't. I would not have put 857 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: my earmufs on. I would have. But I'm so curious, 858 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: but do you think had you had you not had 859 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: the earmuffs on, would it have changed going into them 860 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: that performance with Brandon? Do you think maybe you would 861 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: have set yourself home? Like, how do you think that 862 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: would have played out? Yeah? Um, I have no idea 863 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: why I put earmuffs on. I think at that point 864 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 1: I was so emotionally beaten down. I could tell that 865 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: Brandon was like, we weren't biting. As soon as the 866 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: next morning came, I knew something was off, and I, uh, 867 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: just that's I think that's why I was so defeated 868 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: and I put the earmuffs on. That damn another bad 869 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: choice by me. But I don't honestly, I wanted to 870 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: go home many times after that. UM, I knew that 871 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: Brandon was mistreating me. I knew that we didn't work 872 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: well together, and I felt like the second choice. UM, 873 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: and I you know it was. It was a difficult 874 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: last few days there for me. It really was. M Man, Brandon, 875 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: I think you put I think you hit the nail 876 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: on the head. I think you hit put here ear 877 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: muffs on because you didn't want to hear it. Like 878 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: you knew it, but you just didn't want to hear 879 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: it at that at that point in time. UM, it's interesting. 880 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, Julia. I had a 881 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: whole list of questions to ask you about, like what 882 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: we've been watching, what we've seen, but you've really come 883 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: into this interview and you're like, basically, I get why 884 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: people say what they say, you know, I get why 885 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: people why people perceive what they perceive. But and you 886 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: own up to the things that you said did, but 887 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: there's this whole other side where you're like, this is 888 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: why I did it. And I'll be honest, it makes sense, 889 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: you know. Do I agree with certain things that we're 890 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: done or said? No? But I think that it takes 891 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: a really big person to say, listen, I feel trapped. 892 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: I fell into the trap of what is Brandon that 893 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: type of guy? And at the end of the day, 894 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: I should have been, you know, with the sharedan and 895 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: going into what Rachel said, I think again, as if 896 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 1: you were, it comes off and from what I'm watching 897 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: that you're kind of casting the blame onto others that 898 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 1: you're not taking full responsibility. But I think now speaking 899 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: to you that and that's why I'm really glad that 900 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: we have you on is we can hear your side 901 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 1: of why you were thinking a certain way. And I think, 902 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: like I said, hindsight is twenty twenty. You've watched it 903 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: back now and you're learning and you're growing and you're realizing, Okay, 904 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 1: like it takes two to tango in a relationship. Everyone 905 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: makes mistakes. You know, You've made mistakes, Brandon's made mistakes, 906 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 1: and so at least now you're kind of learning and 907 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: adapting to that and growing. And I can only imagine 908 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: it hasn't been easy getting to this place. Yeah, it's 909 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: been really hard. I didn't anticipate, honestly, Like even when 910 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: I say the sassy things that they played and everything, like, 911 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: I never imagined it would come across as the like 912 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: I cringed. I have been mortified. This is the first 913 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: time I've been out of pajamas and days, and I 914 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: have been heartbroken. You know, I definitely didn't come across 915 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: the way that I think I lived my life. So 916 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: it's been heartbreaking. One thing, so I was at your 917 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: performance and I didn't even know the background of you. 918 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,240 Speaker 1: So it's actually been interesting to watch it back because 919 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: i'm watching it, I'm like, wait a minute, who's Savannah 920 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: Because I watched and I can't tell Becca this because 921 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: I can't talk about what I've seen, and I'm like, 922 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: I watched Julianne Brandon perform, So how did they get 923 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: to this point? And if you remember my critique, I 924 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: was like, oh, something seems off. It doesn't seem right. 925 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: And something you said, which I think you would we 926 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,800 Speaker 1: now see the backstory. So yeah, something was off. But 927 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: you made a statement after your performance and you told Brandon, 928 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 1: you said, I feel like you abandoned me on stage. 929 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 1: What did you mean by that? So when we were 930 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: in sound check, he did the same thing, like he 931 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: treated it like a solo performance, and that was not 932 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: what we were there to do. He wasn't connecting with me, 933 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: he wasn't looking at me. And so after the sound check, 934 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: I said, like, you can't do that. You can't leave 935 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 1: me out there out to dry, and he did. When 936 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: we got on stage, he treated it like a solo show, 937 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: and I didn't feel good at all. And that was 938 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: the moment where I was like I had been fighting 939 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: for it because I had made the decision. I was like, 940 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: I wanted this to I wanted to see if this 941 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: could work. I'm gonna fight for it. And that was 942 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: the moment that I knew the fight was over. That wasn't, Julia. 943 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: The moment was when you were performing on stage. You 944 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: turned to him and he looked at you like this 945 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: while he was singing, and you said, that's it. No, 946 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: if he made that iconic face, that infamous face that 947 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: we were saying, and you were like, this ain't it? 948 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: Shared it. I will say, like, even before the judges 949 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: gave their feedback for your performance, I wrote in my 950 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: notes that he doesn't make eye contact with you. He'sn't 951 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: even looking at you. That's like And that's the one 952 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: takeaway I got from that. And I'm glad that I 953 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 1: wasn't the only one to pick up on that because 954 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: one of the things you said to me when I 955 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: said you have to like connect with me, he said, 956 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, uh, just touch me to remind me that 957 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: you're there. H You're like, don't hear eyeballs working right here? 958 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:21,879 Speaker 1: I know what I will say, you dodgedable. I think you, guys, 959 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: there's something about Brandon. I don't know. I'm not the 960 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: biggest fan of him. I Bye bye, Brandon, That's all 961 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: I can say. Yeah, yeah, um me too. I think that. 962 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,959 Speaker 1: You know. It's like we've critiqued the show. We watched 963 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: the show, and one thing that we try not to 964 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: do when we watch it is like we've both been 965 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: on the show. We've been on the Bachelor, We've been 966 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: on Bachlorettes. Listen to your heart is something totally different, 967 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: as we talked about at the top of the interview 968 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: with you. But one thing Beccan and I try to 969 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: do when we when we critique the show when we 970 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: podcast is we don't want to assume certain things like, oh, 971 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: that happened when I was the Bachelorette, because it's a 972 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: totally different season, different contestants, different stories, different people. But 973 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 1: sadly what happens is that we critique the show, we 974 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 1: haven't been like, well, like we talk about you, Oh 975 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: my gosh, Julia has the best voice. Oh my god, 976 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: what the hell is Julia doing right now? Why is 977 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: she talking to Savani like that way? Like to be honest, whatever, Yeah, 978 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: but we never take it to a point where we're 979 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: bullying or encouraging people to do that. And what's so 980 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: unfortunate about this experience is that when you're filming a 981 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: reality TV show, it's hard. There's so much that is unexpected. 982 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: You think you know, but you have no idea, and 983 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: it definitely comes off harder than people actually you know, 984 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: expect it, expect it to be. And the Internet is 985 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: a brutal place. It can take you up so high 986 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: and then it can bring you down so low, and 987 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 1: I do understand the whole aspect of if you're going 988 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: to accept the praise, you have to accept the criticism. 989 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that you have to accept people 990 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: attacking you and coming at you, and especially when they 991 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: don't really know you. They only know a version of 992 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: you as Becca set that they've seen for an hour 993 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: and a half to two hours every week. And Becca 994 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 1: and I have experienced to that experience that, and unfortunately 995 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 1: we've both gone through that. So I'm personally and I 996 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 1: know Becca does too. We want to ask you how 997 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: you've been and how you've been handling it, because we 998 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 1: understand it's a lot. Well, thank you for having me 999 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: today because it's the first time that I've actually been 1000 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 1: able to get my act together since all of this started. 1001 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: I have these have been like some of the darkest days. Honestly, 1002 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: I just have felt so misunderstood. And you know, I've 1003 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: been attacked online and I have never experienced cyber bolling 1004 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: to this level. And I'm not sure or if it's 1005 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: because of COVID nineteen that people feel like they have 1006 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: all this anger they want to express and I'm just 1007 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: the target. But it's been brutal, and I don't wish 1008 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: this feeling on anyone, And Julie, I will say, I mean, 1009 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: I want to send you a virtual hug right now, 1010 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: and anyone that goes through this. As Rache said, like, 1011 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,959 Speaker 1: you know, when you go on these shows, you set 1012 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: yourself up to be more open to the criticism and 1013 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: to the opinions and to the comments. And opinions in 1014 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: the world are fine, everyone is entitled to that. But 1015 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 1: when you're spewing hate and negativity and just attacking others 1016 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 1: for being on a TV show, for trying for you, 1017 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: trying to figure out your life and your relationship and 1018 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,800 Speaker 1: this musical career, that's not warranted and that's not okay. 1019 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: And so I'm sorry first and foremost that you've had 1020 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: to deal with that. I know Rache has had to 1021 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: deal with that in a major way. And so for 1022 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 1: everyone out there, list mean, no, like, stop with that bullying, 1023 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 1: stop with that hate. Like trust me, we all have 1024 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: been getting mean tweets and mean dms and mean comments, 1025 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,879 Speaker 1: and there's like that. When it crosses that line, it's unacceptable. 1026 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: It's not okay. And so I'm sorry that you have 1027 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,320 Speaker 1: to deal with that, and all I can say is 1028 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: that you know, hopefully you're stronger after this. There's going 1029 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 1: to be better days. I remember after my season there 1030 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: were days where I didn't want to leave the house. 1031 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 1: Like you said, I didn't change out of my pajamas. 1032 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 1: I was I was scared, I was anxious. I felt 1033 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: all these negative emotions. And hopefully hopefully that passes, and 1034 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 1: hopefully people will listen into this and take this to 1035 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: heart and realize, like, we're all human, we've all made mistakes, 1036 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,919 Speaker 1: we've all said stupid things, we've all picked the wrong guy. 1037 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 1: We're human, So give everyone a little bit of grace. Yeah, 1038 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: and I can understand watching it back why people would 1039 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: message me and be like, what the hell are you thinking? 1040 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: You know those comments, But when it's taken to the 1041 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 1: next level and the scary level that I've been receiving, 1042 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: that is just I mean, it's just not right. It's 1043 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,280 Speaker 1: just not right. So have you from it been able 1044 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: to lean on your friends and family or even other 1045 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: castmates that were on the show that I'm sure are 1046 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: dealing with this as well. How are you dealing with 1047 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: all of this? Yeah, I'm so grateful for my castmates. Um, 1048 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 1: Jamie Rudy and I really grew very close through this 1049 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: and mel and you know, because Jamie and Rudy are 1050 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: also main components of the show. Like they've been getting 1051 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: love and hate too. You know, it's no one's immune 1052 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: to getting that that hate. So it's been nice to 1053 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: be able to lean on them. I have been leaning 1054 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: on my friends and family, you know, I have been 1055 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: getting love, and I'm so grateful for that. It is 1056 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: just unbelievable how much louder the hate feels, even if 1057 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: it's even less than the love. Yeah, it's it's human nature. 1058 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 1: You know. You can people can say ninety nine good things, 1059 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: but that one bad thing stands out honestly, and I 1060 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,439 Speaker 1: truly say this from my heart. Welcome to Bachelor Nation. 1061 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean it is a gift and it is a curse. 1062 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: They will hug you with one arm and stab you 1063 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: with a knife in the other. And it's just kind 1064 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 1: of like you're in this the sorority fraternity now, like 1065 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: there are other people that you can lean on, even like, 1066 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: thank goodness you have you know, Jamie and Rudy and 1067 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 1: Mao like you mentioned, but there are other people who 1068 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: understand what you're going through as well. You're not alone. 1069 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 1: I think it's great that you can fall on the 1070 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: sword and say, look, I get it. I'm wondering what 1071 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 1: I was doing and what I was thinking in those 1072 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: moments too. We were too, We had those questions to ask. 1073 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: But what's the point of asking them when you're willing 1074 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: to say, listen, I messed up and and and you know, 1075 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 1: like my bad. I made a mistake and I'd like 1076 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,479 Speaker 1: to make amends for it. So oh, go ahead, Becca, 1077 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh well, I was gonna say, plain and to welcome 1078 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: to bat O nation. You know what, don't worry because 1079 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 1: in a week or two weeks, some other drama is 1080 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: gonna happen and people are gonna hate on whoever said 1081 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: or did whatever and totally forget about what you did. 1082 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: So it's very short lived. I know, it seems like 1083 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: it's never ending right now. You probably seem like you're 1084 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: at the lowest point. But it will get better. And 1085 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: you have your cast mates, you have raged in idealin 1086 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 1: on any advice, like we're all here, um. But it 1087 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: won't last long, I promise, thank you. I'm looking towards 1088 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: the light. Yeah, Sickle, it's it's so quick. They'll forget 1089 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 1: about it. But I just keep singing, keep on putting 1090 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: those bang or vocals out there, and everyone will forget 1091 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: about it. We do want to ask you before we 1092 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 1: let you go, Like, there's ups and there's downs, but 1093 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 1: there's so much that you gain from this experience that 1094 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: so many other people don't get to go through. So 1095 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 1: what's the greatest lesson that you've learned from this entire journey? Um? Wow, 1096 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: I think I have finally learned that I need to 1097 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: accept the love that I deserve. Mm. Girl, I learned 1098 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: that too on my journey on the show, and I 1099 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: got married. So I'm so excited for you. No, it's 1100 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: it's it's so true when you have gone through not 1101 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 1: turn this into a therapy session, but you never know 1102 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 1: what you're going to get from bast what happy are. 1103 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: But when you have gone through it and you finally 1104 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 1: learned that just because you've experienced it nine times, that 1105 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that tenth time that you can't finally 1106 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: accept what it is that you deserve and what's right 1107 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: for you because you think you feel a little selfish. 1108 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: But it's okay. So I'm from Texas. I so look 1109 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you in Austin because I know that's 1110 01:00:54,000 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: my shared Hobably he's listening. That's a great city then, yeah, 1111 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 1: but it's great that you've come from this and you've 1112 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 1: learned something, yeah from it. And please, in the future, 1113 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: whatever happens, whether it's with Sheridan or someone else, keep 1114 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: us updated because we would love to hear about your 1115 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: life and your upcoming musical endeavors and love endeavors and everything. 1116 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you both so much. Thanks no Bridge. 1117 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: I must say I am very happy that we finally 1118 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: had her on, because you know, we all have our opinions, 1119 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: but it's good to finally hear her side of things, 1120 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,919 Speaker 1: the good and the bad, the pretty and the ugly, 1121 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,919 Speaker 1: and so I'm glad to get her point of view, 1122 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: her take. And it's hard to hearing what she's now 1123 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: having to deal with, but hopefully everyone out there listening 1124 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 1: to this can take it to heart and realize that again, 1125 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: this is a TV show, it's fleeting, and she's just 1126 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: trying to do what's best for her. Yeah, I'm glad 1127 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: we had her on when we had her on. If 1128 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 1: we had had her on right this show started, she 1129 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't have seen how things have played out because she 1130 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: would have had her version, but it's a totally different 1131 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 1: thing to see it, and she's had the time to 1132 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: watch it, to learn from it, to grow from it, 1133 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: and that's what's what we got on the podcast today. 1134 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 1: So I thought that was beautiful. I mean, listen, like, 1135 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: like we told her, listen, we've talked about you a 1136 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: certain way on this show. There's no bullying, but we're 1137 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: trying to understand your actions and how you were moving 1138 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 1: throughout this show. But there was no reason to go 1139 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: there once she owns up to it, and I hope 1140 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 1: that everyone who's listening, you know, because this episode that 1141 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: you watch today is a lot and it's gonna make 1142 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 1: you even go down even more a darker, deeper path 1143 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: with Julia. But if you listen to this podcast, you'll 1144 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 1: understand her a little bit more and you'll let that 1145 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: go and you'll realize people make mistakes along the way 1146 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 1: and you just have to allow them to do it. 1147 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: And we do it, Yeah, we all, and we all 1148 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: hopefully can grow It. Sounds like she has and she's, 1149 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: like you said, she's kind of falling on her sword 1150 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: and taking responsibility for certain things that did play out. 1151 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm just glad that she realized that she but also 1152 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 1: anyone out there needs to find herself a Sheridan and 1153 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 1: not a Brandon. Yes, like, ladies, it took me until 1154 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: I was thirty. Now, granted I'm glad it did because 1155 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 1: I met Brian because of it. But don't think that 1156 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: you have to continue to accept to be treated badly. 1157 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: You don't. You're better than that. You deserve more than that. 1158 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 1: It's not okay, it's not acceptable. I don't care if 1159 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 1: every man that you've ever dated just treated you that way. 1160 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 1: It's not okay. And if we excuse it, then men 1161 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,919 Speaker 1: will continue to behave this way because they will think 1162 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: it's okay. So don't give them a pass. Don't allow 1163 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 1: them to do that. We deserve better. Rise up you nite. 1164 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 1: I am a woman. Hear me, roar I love this 1165 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: because all but everything you're saying right now plays perfectly 1166 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: into our next guest, Shaggy. And you know we all 1167 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 1: know his song. It wasn't me. You know we'll get 1168 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 1: into that um. But yes, it's no You're worth ladies 1169 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: and gentlemen out there know what you deserve. You know, Listen, 1170 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 1: we've all gone back to the mistake. We've all been there, 1171 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 1: We've all gotten. The bad boy that we know isn't 1172 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 1: good for us. But you're better than that. You're better 1173 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 1: than that, Rachel. This was a great therapy session. But 1174 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 1: we do have one more guest. Let's turn today, Let's 1175 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 1: turn it up, and we're gonna do a complete one eighty. 1176 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: I can't be more excited to talk to this mega 1177 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: talented Grammy winning artist. He is I will say the 1178 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 1: essence of good vibes and it's the twentieth I can't 1179 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 1: believe I'm saying this, but the twentieth anniversary of his 1180 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: hit album Hot Shot, and you can see him as 1181 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: a guest performer on next week's Listen to Your Heart. So, 1182 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, it's Shaggy, Yeah, mister 1183 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 1: boom Bastick, very fantastic, Well, Shaggy first and foremost, thank 1184 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: you for being here. I'm sure about sure happy. Our 1185 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 1: listeners are so excited to hear from you. And just 1186 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 1: to start it off, obviously it's no surprise we're all 1187 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: in quarantine. So how has it been going for you 1188 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: these days? It's been cool, man. I didn't think it 1189 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: was going to run as smooth as it did, you know, 1190 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 1: I just came off a tour in the UK with 1191 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: myself and Nelly and even all of us, and they 1192 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 1: had just we got to New York a day before 1193 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 1: they closed the borders in the UK, and I wanted 1194 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: to go home to Jamaica, to my home where you know, 1195 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 1: my wife, kids and dogs are in the early cases 1196 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 1: of the COVID in Jamaica were from British tourists, so 1197 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 1: they had suggested that I probably wait out the fourteen 1198 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,439 Speaker 1: days and then go in and in waiting it out, 1199 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: they closed the borders, so I am stuck here in 1200 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 1: New York. New York is ground zero, so I'm at 1201 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: my home here. But it's you know, my housekeepers don't 1202 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 1: show up, my um assistance don't show up. So it's 1203 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 1: really me. I'm starting to learn to I got a 1204 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 1: cook I got a laundry, I'm folding. It's you know, 1205 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of crazy, man, but it's it's really 1206 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 1: worked out. It's quite a wake up call for me 1207 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 1: to let me know that if something. I'm very proud 1208 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 1: of myself. I've I've been I've been surviving. Yeah, sounds 1209 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: like you're becoming a jack of all trades with cooking 1210 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: and cleaning and all the things. Yeah, I'm actually I'm 1211 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 1: also doing I'm a one man show and doing promo 1212 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,880 Speaker 1: and I've been doing these promos, uh for the last 1213 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 1: six weeks. I got my whole set up. I've been 1214 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 1: moving around. Good thing. I'm actually quarantined here because my 1215 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 1: recording studio is also house. I have two rooms and 1216 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 1: this is one of the main rooms. So I keep 1217 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 1: moving things around just to you know, get a different feel. 1218 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 1: And it has worked out well so far. Oh yeah, 1219 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 1: so we're making music. You sound like me Shaggy. I'm like, 1220 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,479 Speaker 1: oh my god, I have to cook, I have to clean. 1221 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 1: What is this what I'm used to being on the 1222 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 1: road too. So, speaking of experiences, you were on Listen 1223 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 1: to your Heart a Bachelor franchise show. What do you 1224 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,160 Speaker 1: know about the Bachelor? Have you? Are you a fan 1225 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor of the Bachelorette? I have. I've actually 1226 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 1: caught a couple of episodes here and there. I can 1227 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 1: say I religiously watch it, because I don't religiously watch 1228 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 1: any show because I'm always in a different continent and 1229 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: a you know, a different week whatever. It is, so 1230 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 1: constantly touring. Uh, but um, you know, I like the 1231 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 1: whole concept of it, you know what I mean, And 1232 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's really cool that you know, these these 1233 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 1: contestants could get an opportunity, you know, to actually show 1234 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: showcase their talent and and get it out there. Yeah, 1235 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 1: how was your experience on the show. It was cool. 1236 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 1: My scene was kind of just film in the in 1237 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 1: the club. I I was really taking a back somewhat 1238 01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 1: of how enthusiastic the audience was. They were really really 1239 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 1: pumped up and really into it, and it was great. Obviously, 1240 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, Brave Bond was there with me, Spice as 1241 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,439 Speaker 1: a superstar herself, so she had some fans in there, 1242 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 1: and it was really really good just to rocket and 1243 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,760 Speaker 1: then play these amazing classic that everybody just knew, you know, 1244 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 1: and of course, you know, you know, we had you know, 1245 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: the Loving Couple come on stage and just you know, 1246 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: kind of grace us with their president. So yeah, it 1247 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 1: was kind of it was it was a good vibe. Yeah. Well, 1248 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you are known for putting on these great performances, 1249 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,759 Speaker 1: these great shows. You have just such a great energy 1250 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 1: when you do perform and get on that stage. So 1251 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 1: what is one of your secrets? I guess that you 1252 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 1: could share with the world or share with these couples 1253 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 1: that are now on. Listen to your heart for giving 1254 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 1: and putting on such a great show. I should say 1255 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 1: what what the main thing I always say, and especially 1256 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 1: in going on, It's like being a DJ, and I 1257 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 1: was a DJ before I even started. You know, um 1258 01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 1: to to to perform live, you gotta go in and 1259 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: read that audience. Every audience you go to. You know 1260 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. You have all these artists the more 1261 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 1: time with Femina Tour, and they're six artists. You know, 1262 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: I go out and watch their their show because I'm 1263 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 1: getting to read of the type of crowd. It is 1264 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,640 Speaker 1: what they respond to, whate a their vibe is. And 1265 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: I'll change my set list right as I go on. 1266 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 1: That's why you know it's good to have my band 1267 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: because if I go left, they go left, I go right, 1268 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: they go right. It's reading that crowd. It's figuring the 1269 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,360 Speaker 1: type of crowd. You're not gonna go and do like 1270 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 1: you know, an acoustic guitar type of performance in a 1271 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: nightclub when everybody is half drunk and popping and popping off. 1272 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, you got to change your game up at 1273 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,840 Speaker 1: that point. You know what I mean to get that 1274 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 1: audience pumping their fists and get in and talk certain 1275 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 1: little things, say certain little things to get your audience interested. 1276 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Especially if you're an artist that don't have really big hits, 1277 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 1: then do some other someone else's big hit. But it's 1278 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 1: the way that you deliver it. You know they'll know that. 1279 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,559 Speaker 1: But the way you deliver it why you set it up. 1280 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,720 Speaker 1: It just like a DJ was set a record up. 1281 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 1: That's what works. It's you connecting with that audience on 1282 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: a personal level and letting them buy into you, and 1283 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,679 Speaker 1: all that goes out to you reading the reading the audience. 1284 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 1: So I suggest that any any artists going out there 1285 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,880 Speaker 1: to perform, before you go on the stage, go out there. 1286 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 1: If there's artists before you go, check it out. We'll 1287 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,479 Speaker 1: look at the audience, go feel it out and then 1288 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,560 Speaker 1: kind of bring you earler to show. And don't be 1289 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 1: scared to move things around at last minute, man, because 1290 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: you might see something that just really connects. Yeah, speaking 1291 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,760 Speaker 1: of connections, what did you think about the connection of 1292 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,599 Speaker 1: the couple that you have to work with on the show. 1293 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,679 Speaker 1: Since this show is about the music, but also about 1294 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 1: the chemistry within the with the couples too. One thing 1295 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,639 Speaker 1: I noticed when they came on stage, and that's without 1296 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 1: me watching the episode, are doing anything. They couldn't They 1297 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: couldn't keep their hands off each other, which is good. Um. 1298 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, they were they they were they looked like 1299 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 1: they were in love, you know what I mean. They 1300 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,640 Speaker 1: kept me even when we're bear rocking and dancing, you know, 1301 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 1: he kept holding her hands. It was just that kind 1302 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: of a vibe. And I was really really you know, 1303 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 1: um pleased to see that they actually interacted like that. 1304 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 1: They really was feeling each other, vibing each other. And 1305 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 1: when I went back to talk to them, man, I 1306 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 1: kind of I kind of got what I really love 1307 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,639 Speaker 1: is uh you know, the guy was literally telling uh, 1308 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,680 Speaker 1: the girl. He was telling this girl, he was complimenting 1309 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 1: her the whole time through the conversation. You know, he 1310 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 1: was you know that is that is cool. And he's 1311 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,479 Speaker 1: a singer too, you know what I'm saying, So he's 1312 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: not trying to hog uh the spotlight in any way. 1313 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 1: He's he's literally compliments Oh man, this one right here. 1314 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 1: She you know man, she is oh you know what 1315 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, I admire things like that, you know 1316 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 1: what I mean, because he's you know, you could tell 1317 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,639 Speaker 1: at this point, and she took the compliment of course, 1318 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 1: but at the same time she was like, uh, you 1319 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,720 Speaker 1: know you were you know, you're such here, so you're 1320 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 1: great too, You're so you know, I'm I mean I 1321 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 1: loved all of that, you know, Yeah, I appreciate that. Well. 1322 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,600 Speaker 1: I like that you picked up on that because and 1323 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,640 Speaker 1: this is something that we've asked not only the contestants 1324 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,439 Speaker 1: that were on this show, but also the different judges 1325 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 1: that we have on the podcast as well. Um, we 1326 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 1: always ask if they've dated musicians in the past, and 1327 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: it's always like this fifty fifty split vote. Half of 1328 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,720 Speaker 1: them have and they say that it works and that 1329 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,759 Speaker 1: you have this really special bond and connection through music 1330 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 1: and just a whole new realm of emotions that that 1331 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 1: music can bring. And then half of them say it's 1332 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 1: too crazy, they wouldn't recommend it, can't do it again. Um, 1333 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 1: So for you, Shaggy, have you ever dated another musician? 1334 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't know if I would say dated 1335 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:52,799 Speaker 1: looked up, yes, you know, that's a whole different situation. 1336 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't. You know, I don't think I've dated. Don't 1337 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,600 Speaker 1: want to get into that dinner that is break we 1338 01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:08,240 Speaker 1: break bread? Um about to me dating with musicians. I'm 1339 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,479 Speaker 1: not saying that it cannot work. You find a lot 1340 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 1: of people who have done it, and they have done 1341 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 1: it very well and it has worked very well for them. Um. 1342 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: You know, it takes a lot of trust because when 1343 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: you're in the entertainment business, there's a lot of things 1344 01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,639 Speaker 1: that come at you, you know what I mean. There's 1345 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, and if you're successful, there's going to be 1346 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 1: screaming groupies. You know. Um. It's very hard for females 1347 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:34,679 Speaker 1: also in the industry because you know, it's it's most 1348 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 1: of the time they're not taken seriously, you know what 1349 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean. And because it's such a male dominated feel 1350 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,439 Speaker 1: that and when a female comes into the picture, these 1351 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,439 Speaker 1: guys got one thing on their minds, so it's hard 1352 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 1: for that female to actually be about her business. And 1353 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 1: I say to every female when they go in there, 1354 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 1: if you go in there with that poker face on 1355 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,680 Speaker 1: and say hey, I'm about my business, that will follow through. 1356 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 1: They will fall into line, you know what I'm saying, Um, 1357 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,120 Speaker 1: And you just got to know how to play your 1358 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,200 Speaker 1: game and get in there. So as couples going into 1359 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 1: it and you're gonna find challenges, You're gonna stumble on challenges, 1360 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, But if you want to make it working, 1361 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,320 Speaker 1: you guys are committed to they're committed to each other, 1362 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,280 Speaker 1: then I have no doubt that you have a shot 1363 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 1: at it. Yeah. Yeah, I want to change it up 1364 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 1: a little bit and start talking to you about this 1365 01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 1: twentieth anniversary of the legendary album hot Shot. I feel like, 1366 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, an album, an album passes the test of 1367 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 1: time when you can know exactly where you were when 1368 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 1: the album came out and you started jamming the songs. 1369 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 1: For me with hot Shot, I was just learning to drive, 1370 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,000 Speaker 1: so I was blaring it in the car, trying to 1371 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,600 Speaker 1: focus on the road, but sing the songs. It wasn't me, 1372 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 1: Love Me, Love Me Angel. I mean, now that you're 1373 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,760 Speaker 1: rereleasing this and you have these amazing collaborations, I think 1374 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 1: I read this Sting is gonna is on it as well. 1375 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,960 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about it and what we 1376 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,560 Speaker 1: can expect from it. Well, you know, this album was 1377 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 1: such an iconic album in a sense that Hot Shot 1378 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: was the album that moved the needle as far as 1379 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 1: the genre, as far as dance all is concerned. You know, 1380 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,519 Speaker 1: mainstream radio did not play Dance All in two thousand 1381 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 1: a lot what hot Shot did because it was such 1382 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 1: a phenomenal record and the single Wasn't Me was so dynamic, 1383 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 1: and it broke so many borders. It crossed all of 1384 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,600 Speaker 1: the musical barriers. You know, you couldn't have put it 1385 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 1: into a box. It literally all radio formats played it, 1386 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 1: so it actually made Dan saw music become acceptable to 1387 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 1: mainstream radio. And to commemorate that, and it's old diamond, 1388 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, it was over ten million records sold, so 1389 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,599 Speaker 1: it's the only diamond selling them Dance All album ever. 1390 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: So to commemorate the success of it, we decided to 1391 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,640 Speaker 1: put out a Hot Shot twenty twenty version. But I 1392 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,439 Speaker 1: didn't want to just do that album track for track 1393 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 1: and word for word, so I decided to, hey, why 1394 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 1: don't we take the first five most stream songs from 1395 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,599 Speaker 1: the album, which are the singles Angel, Wasn't Me, Lovely 1396 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,880 Speaker 1: Love Me, and of course you know, songs like um, 1397 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Keeping It Real and the title track hot Shot. Then 1398 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 1: we put Ray Van who sang Angel initially, to sing 1399 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't Me, you know, and then put Sting to 1400 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,599 Speaker 1: sing Angel because we sang it on tour when we're 1401 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 1: doing for four eight seventy six, and that's one of 1402 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 1: his favorite joints. And then we did like four new songs, 1403 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,840 Speaker 1: you know. We covered Electric Avenue by Eddie Grant, We 1404 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,640 Speaker 1: covered Buckingham Palace by Peter Tush. We also did a 1405 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 1: new song with me in this thing called prema Vera. 1406 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,600 Speaker 1: And then we throw some other goods in there. How 1407 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:50,599 Speaker 1: about throwing mister Bombastic in there, yeah, like and throwing 1408 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 1: songs like Oh Carolina, Strength of a Woman, a sexy lady, 1409 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,679 Speaker 1: but giving them a more up to date twenty twenty 1410 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 1: sound where the picks or drops sonically it's really in there, 1411 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 1: and it wasn't me. We kept to the authenticity of 1412 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,679 Speaker 1: the original track, right because those songs are let's facing, 1413 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 1: they're still recurrent in today's generation. But we changed when 1414 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,240 Speaker 1: once my part came came in. We changed the drums 1415 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: to a more dance all drum because back in them 1416 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 1: days where we did the original, it was really a 1417 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,040 Speaker 1: hip hop beat that it was on, and we and 1418 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,679 Speaker 1: Rick rock Stein and R and B Melody, the only 1419 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 1: dance all was what was the cadence is that I did? 1420 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 1: Which was which was the patois, you know what I mean. 1421 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 1: So we just put the dance all drums on the 1422 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: patua because for us, if we if reggae was playing 1423 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: dance all, that's probably what we would have done back then. 1424 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,160 Speaker 1: And now dance all is now. You know the soundtrack 1425 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,639 Speaker 1: of today's music, you know it would spawn such such 1426 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,640 Speaker 1: genres as reggaeton you know what I mean, and afrobeat, 1427 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, reggae itself, I mean, hip hop itself was 1428 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,799 Speaker 1: too cool. Herb was formed to dance all and reggae. 1429 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 1: So it's just a celebration all around where that project 1430 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,719 Speaker 1: is concerned. And you know, it's it's perfect for quarantine. 1431 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 1: It makes you feel like you're on vacation. It's full 1432 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 1: of sunshine and and and a lot of fun. And 1433 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 1: these songs are just classics that everybody knows. You know 1434 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,840 Speaker 1: what else, it wasn't Me? Did it gave me a 1435 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:20,160 Speaker 1: cop out? Shaggy, it gave them a cop out? Thinking ye, 1436 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 1: that's well, you know, I disagree with you on that. 1437 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 1: There's a big misconception because everybody think that it Wasn't 1438 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,639 Speaker 1: Me was a cheater song. Yes, but it really wasn't. 1439 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,479 Speaker 1: Because if you if if you listen to the song 1440 01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,400 Speaker 1: down to the ender's an apology. He says, I'm going 1441 01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 1: to tell her that I'm sorry for the things that 1442 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 1: I've done. You might think that you're a player, but 1443 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:48,000 Speaker 1: you're completely lost. Simpler means that the player, right, the 1444 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,240 Speaker 1: guy that cheated, didn't take the advice of the player, 1445 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 1: even though he was saying just tell her it wasn't me. 1446 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,719 Speaker 1: Just you know, it was like, dude, you're an idiot. 1447 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to go apologize to my girl because what 1448 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 1: you're doing, and you could not have a better message, right. 1449 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 1: No couples during that time say hey, this ain't right. 1450 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 1: But because it was such a club jam, you know 1451 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,720 Speaker 1: what I mean, and everybody was saying it was right, 1452 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 1: it wasn't. Nobody listened to the record down to the end, 1453 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 1: so they miss the apology altogether. And it was like, yo, Shaggy, oh, 1454 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 1: that guy cheater, he just he just go sign on 1455 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 1: every cheat is out there that he gives them a 1456 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,639 Speaker 1: cop out. Really, ladies, calm down. I was saying, hey, 1457 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 1: it's wrong, even though I was the guy that played 1458 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,840 Speaker 1: the bad part, and but thank you for setting the 1459 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,720 Speaker 1: record straight. You know, I think the real question is 1460 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 1: will there be music videos accompanied with this album and 1461 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:51,960 Speaker 1: will you be auditioning for dancers? But we always get dancers. 1462 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's inevitable. Dancers are are are? You know? 1463 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,360 Speaker 1: They bring the live to the show man, they bring 1464 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,000 Speaker 1: they bring that energy, you know. Big up to Tenisia 1465 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,920 Speaker 1: Scott who started with us when we when we were 1466 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,040 Speaker 1: doing um the Hotshot project back in them days, and 1467 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 1: she's now one of the best choreographers around Choo choreogra Chance. Okay, 1468 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,640 Speaker 1: that's really what I needed to know. Absolutely we have 1469 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 1: he'll be doing some videos and all of that. Well, Shaggy, 1470 01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 1: I will say even I think it was like two 1471 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 1: weeks ago I was listening to it wasn't Me and 1472 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,120 Speaker 1: my fiance and I did a little compilation with our dog. 1473 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,600 Speaker 1: So of course we set her up like on on 1474 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 1: the counter on the Yeah you see her, we did, 1475 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 1: Oh I did It's I will say, I think I'm 1476 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 1: not trying to like be biased here, but I will 1477 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,479 Speaker 1: say my dogs one of the cutest dogs, so it 1478 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,639 Speaker 1: was one of the better ones. Yeah, I'm just saying 1479 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,240 Speaker 1: that right, but um she I think she uh felt 1480 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 1: very threatened by us video taping her to the song 1481 01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,240 Speaker 1: and so um she went up PTSC when she here's 1482 01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,360 Speaker 1: the song. But for me, I love it. It's one 1483 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,680 Speaker 1: of the classets. It's never to go to style. So 1484 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you're rereleasing the album. Well, it's great. 1485 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, TikTok was a big help on that too. 1486 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,280 Speaker 1: You know everybody who were doing these these these TikTok 1487 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,120 Speaker 1: videos with their dogs and you gotta you gotta DM 1488 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 1: me and your your pub so I know which one 1489 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,439 Speaker 1: it is so good. People send him to me all 1490 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 1: the time, and I was like, wow, this thing just 1491 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:23,920 Speaker 1: takes the life of of its own. We got the 1492 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,240 Speaker 1: shower cap on her in the shower with the fake 1493 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 1: water running. We did it all. So m I got 1494 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 1: a question, though, is this a trend that everybody is 1495 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 1: in there in their closet. This is our recording studio. 1496 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 1: It's not as great as yours. Yeah, it's what the 1497 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,640 Speaker 1: best sound quality? Oh god, okay, I got you, So 1498 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 1: you don't hear the echoing? I got you, right, okay, 1499 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:53,800 Speaker 1: So loud in the loving room got to get away 1500 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 1: from him. Well, you know what, I've done a couple 1501 01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,479 Speaker 1: of interviews overseas in the UK, and they're all in 1502 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,560 Speaker 1: their closet too, and I was wondering, Wow, okay, you know, 1503 01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 1: but okay, you explain it. We like to call it 1504 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 1: our iso booths. Yeah yeah, not quite un par with yours. 1505 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I'm lucky, I mean one of those 1506 01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 1: professional ones. Well, Shaggy, thank you so much for doing 1507 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,759 Speaker 1: this interview. We're so excited to see you on the show. 1508 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,360 Speaker 1: We're so excited to hear what new music you're gonna have. 1509 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,719 Speaker 1: You can't see him right now, but he is sitting 1510 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,040 Speaker 1: in the studio. He is ready to go. I think 1511 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,759 Speaker 1: that's what's so special about Quarantine is it allows people 1512 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 1: to be creative, you know, because we're stuck. We're at home. 1513 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,439 Speaker 1: You know, there's not much you can do. So anyways, 1514 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 1: we are excited to see you on the show. Thank 1515 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 1: you so much for doing us. Thank you, thanks, thanks 1516 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 1: for having me, and thanks for sharing your platform. All 1517 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: the best you guys. Of course, thanks Shaggy. I really 1518 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed him. I forgot you did the Quarry video. I mean, 1519 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:54,000 Speaker 1: I met some comment to you on that that was 1520 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,240 Speaker 1: the funniest thing that I've seen. You know how I 1521 01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,760 Speaker 1: feel about TikTok, Well, no, I know, and so when 1522 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 1: we were doing where Minno is traumatized from us doing 1523 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,840 Speaker 1: that to her. But it was so funny because we 1524 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,400 Speaker 1: didn't what like two weeks ago, And then when I 1525 01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,640 Speaker 1: found out who we were talking to today, Garrett was 1526 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,839 Speaker 1: like down in their garage and I'm yellow from the belcony, 1527 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 1: like Garrett, Garrett, guess who we're talking to. And He's like, 1528 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,720 Speaker 1: no effing way, you're talking to Shaggy. So that was 1529 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,720 Speaker 1: really fun to have him. No, it was fun. He 1530 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,880 Speaker 1: was great, Like, there's so much depth, you know, his 1531 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,760 Speaker 1: career has really passed the test of time. He's I mean, 1532 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 1: like Boom mister Boom Boston came out in nineteen ninety five, 1533 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,680 Speaker 1: which means he was before then because that's not even 1534 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,280 Speaker 1: his first album. So it's just the fact that he's 1535 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 1: really I can't believe Hotshot is twenty years old. That 1536 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,400 Speaker 1: makes me feel old because I'm like, yeah, I was 1537 01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:52,000 Speaker 1: learning to drive then, how you Becca, I well, I 1538 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,839 Speaker 1: was in middles Actually, no, no, no, no. I remember 1539 01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 1: when Angel came out. My best friend in sixth grade 1540 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,639 Speaker 1: was obsessed with that song, like to the point where 1541 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 1: she would that's the only song she would play on 1542 01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,680 Speaker 1: repeat on like our Sony Discman or whatever it was 1543 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,479 Speaker 1: that we used back then. So yeah, sixth grade. I 1544 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 1: was how old is that? Eleven? Twelve? Right? Yeah? Yeah, 1545 01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,280 Speaker 1: yeah old enough. But my question is, okay, you've seen 1546 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,639 Speaker 1: the movie uh, Never Been Kissed right with Drew Barrymore 1547 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,439 Speaker 1: Love It. You know the scene where she eats the 1548 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 1: brownie at the club and she takes that like the 1549 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,680 Speaker 1: feather boa and she's like running through her legs. Is 1550 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,800 Speaker 1: that to one of Shaggy songs? I don't remember the song. 1551 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,519 Speaker 1: I gotta go back. I feel like it has to be, 1552 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,880 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go back and where you watch it? 1553 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,880 Speaker 1: But like, I don't know why. When we were talking 1554 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,960 Speaker 1: to him and listening to him, I'm like picturing that 1555 01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 1: scene of her with like the boa in between her Now, 1556 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,519 Speaker 1: then I hope that that's the case that she said that. 1557 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell him that he was on one 1558 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 1: of my planes, but I was like, I'm gonna sound 1559 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,519 Speaker 1: like such a creeper. You should because I'm like, I 1560 01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 1: love I love reggae music and dance on music, so 1561 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,519 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to be like, you know, mister 1562 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 1: love a LoVa, And I was like, well, is that rude? 1563 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,880 Speaker 1: Is that rude and he calls himself that song. I 1564 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,320 Speaker 1: feel like he would have appreciated it, Rache. You should 1565 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 1: have Brian, I would have been like, who are you 1566 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 1: talking to? Excuse me? No, that was great. Love these 1567 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:21,920 Speaker 1: interviews that were able to do with such iconic you know, 1568 01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,599 Speaker 1: musicians in the industry. It's it's really amazing they get 1569 01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 1: to do this exactly how to get their take. I mean, 1570 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,000 Speaker 1: like you said, he's been around for a bet and 1571 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: he knows this industry probably better than anyone. So to 1572 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 1: hear him talk about how just even within the world 1573 01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,400 Speaker 1: and his genre has changed, it's so interesting to me. 1574 01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,639 Speaker 1: So hopefully our listeners can take something from that, if 1575 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,400 Speaker 1: anything else. I cannot wait to listen to this re 1576 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 1: released album right and for him to just casually say, yeah, 1577 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,360 Speaker 1: you know I was coming back from tour with E 1578 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 1: that got sting on the album. Okay, you better name 1579 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,360 Speaker 1: drop Shaggy, better let us know the circles that you 1580 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,519 Speaker 1: run it, acting like it's no big deal, but like, 1581 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I just hung out in Europe with Nelly, 1582 01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,040 Speaker 1: but now I'm stuck in New York and your recording studio. Yeah, yeah, 1583 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,320 Speaker 1: if you live in the life live in the life. Well, 1584 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,960 Speaker 1: I had so much fun today. I know you did too. 1585 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,679 Speaker 1: Becca was so cool to talk to our guests recap 1586 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,040 Speaker 1: the show, and it's always you know, we just have 1587 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,760 Speaker 1: such a blast with this opportunity and this platform to 1588 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,120 Speaker 1: be able to talk to such big celebrity names that 1589 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,000 Speaker 1: are coming on this show. I mean, the Bachelor. There's 1590 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:27,080 Speaker 1: nothing like it. There's nobody doing anything what the Bachelor 1591 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,960 Speaker 1: franchise is doing, from love to music to drama. Nobody 1592 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,160 Speaker 1: does it better. It just keeps getting bigger and better 1593 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 1: every single week. And we can't wait for you guys 1594 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,320 Speaker 1: to see what's next because the drama doesn't stop, the 1595 01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:43,880 Speaker 1: celebrity judges don't stop, the love doesn't stop. So coming 1596 01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,720 Speaker 1: up next week, we've got four remaining couples that head 1597 01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,479 Speaker 1: to Las Vegas to perform and we get four date cards, 1598 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,200 Speaker 1: which is always fun. We get to see four couples, 1599 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,800 Speaker 1: we get to see their love progress or maybe not 1600 01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,600 Speaker 1: from the previews that we've seen from this week or 1601 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,960 Speaker 1: this come up week. Then we have the new judges. 1602 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 1: We've got Ashley Simpson Ross her husband Evan Ross. We've 1603 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,759 Speaker 1: got Pat Monahan from the band Train, We've got Lauren 1604 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,280 Speaker 1: and Ari, and we get to see an awesome performance 1605 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,759 Speaker 1: by Shaggy, and as always, we've got that perfect balance 1606 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,240 Speaker 1: of drama, of music and love. It's all that we 1607 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,719 Speaker 1: need right now, Rachel, I can't wait. I mean, there's 1608 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,720 Speaker 1: parts of next week that I could probably bypass, but 1609 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,920 Speaker 1: most of it I can't wait for. I am loving 1610 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:31,320 Speaker 1: the show, So listeners, don't forget to tune into new 1611 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,920 Speaker 1: episodes of Listening to Your Heart every Monday, eight seventh 1612 01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:38,200 Speaker 1: Central on ABC. Now it's crazy because I can't believe 1613 01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 1: but there's only two episodes left. I'm I'm already feeling 1614 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,680 Speaker 1: a little bit sad because I've loved this show so 1615 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,560 Speaker 1: much and like each week it's just grown on me. 1616 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,200 Speaker 1: But it's going by quickly. You know, the couples are 1617 01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,960 Speaker 1: dwining allion down, so we're gonna, of course, continue to 1618 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 1: break it down from those last two episodes for you all, 1619 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,720 Speaker 1: So please don't forget to follow along. 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