1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Full Circle is an Iheartwoman's sports production and partnership with 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: What's good, y'all, Welcome back to another episode of Full 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Circle High Lexi, Hey, girl, we have a lot to 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: talk about today. 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: We need a thought we do we really do well. 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: I believe AU has concluded and you gave it the 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: goodbye that it deserves. 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we had a time last night. Girl. I 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: wish you were still here. You came the wrong weekend, 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: low key, I know. 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: I love Nashville. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: It was fun. 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: Even though we were like in our little au bubble, 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 3: we made it poppin. It was really fun. 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: Last night. 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: We had our last games. I finished in seventh place. 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 3: Everybody top ten. 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Congratulations Lexi. 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: So that bonus check is going to hit soon. Period. 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: We had a wrap party last night, and I just 23 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: want to have a conversation real quick about how athletes party. 24 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's like, and you went to Georgia, 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: so you are around you know the athlete party culture. 26 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: When I first learned how to party, when I got 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: to college shocked. I was shocked. I didn't even understand. 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: And i'mn't even talking about like boy athletes because I'd 29 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: be one of them, like the plague, but girl athletes 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: like that. 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: Y'all get down, We get down. It gets to it. 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: But it's because y'all are very disciplined and you have 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: like such a strict schedule and it doesn't really matter 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: what day of the week it is, because you guys 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: could have work all weekend and then not even get 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: your time to have a little drinking in. So when 37 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: it's a Monday night. 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: It's like an inside joke amongst all, like even college athletes, 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: it's like, why are we going this hard? Like is 40 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: there something that we need to talk about? Like do 41 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: we need to go to therapy? Are we stressed? 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: Why? 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, probably athletes, we. 44 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: Have one day of freedom and you decide to just 45 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: go crazy. 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: It's actually insane, but you're right. 47 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: It's just you have so much discipline ninety nine point 48 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: nine percent of the time, and you have one opportunity 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: a week, sometimes a month sometimes to like just not 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: care about anything. 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: It's on top of that, I would love to talk 52 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: to you about the fact that my sister is a 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: division one volleyball player, and like she's still very young, 54 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: but her whole life has been consumed with volleyball. When 55 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: she had prom she had volleyball practice at aight am 56 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: the next day. 57 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: Me too, turns that way. 58 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's like, of course, when you get older 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: and you're of age to drink and you're having fun 60 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: with your friends and you're in Nashville and you're having 61 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: good time and you've been in AU season all of 62 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: these weeks, of course you're going to want to have fun. 63 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: Your whole life has been dedicated to being disciplined for 64 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: your sport. 65 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: Literally, but I'm like, why do we have to like go? 66 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: So it's crazy, Like I'm thirty now, Like if y'all, 67 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 3: if y'all are watching this right now, y'all can see 68 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: it all over my face that last night was a 69 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: long night, but it was so much fun. 70 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: I really can't. 71 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: Okay, you look like you're going, oh thanks, it's happiness, 72 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: thank you. 73 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: I think that that's a myth about or at least 74 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: with our generation, it is about, Oh, you turn thirty, 75 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: like you're gonna have to be in the house and 76 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: be locked up and married with seven kids. And I 77 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: feel like thirty. They is like the new twenty thirty, right, 78 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: because I'd be like, I'm sixteen and I'm twenty four. 79 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: Girl, I feel twenty four is crazy. Right. 80 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: First of all, can we talk about Okay, I was 81 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: Maria when Mariah was in Nashville and we went out 82 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: to dinner after our live show, which was amazing. By 83 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: the way, My best friend Joy who lives in Nashville, 84 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: she's thirty one. She had no idea you were twenty four, right, 85 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: So we went to dinner. All right, She's, Oh my god, 86 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: I love Mariah. She's so intelligent. She really has Like. 87 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: How old is she? 88 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, Mariah is just a baby. And we were 89 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: just like, what were we doing at twenty four? 90 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: Nothing? 91 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: I mean I was in the WNBA at twenty four, 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: but I was still very much a baby. 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: Like what was I doing. 94 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: At twenty four? Oh yeah, I was just a professional 95 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: basketball But it was like. 96 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: It's so crazy because even yesterday I was thinking about, 97 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: like in the Grand Scheme of life, like even though 98 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: we have the complaints of how people talk about us, 99 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: which we're going to get into next, we play basketball. 100 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: We play a sport for a living, Like it's so fun. 101 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: Like that's why. Yeah, let's actually get into it right now. 102 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: Let's just talk about it at the end of the day, 103 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: Like what people say to us about us, da da 104 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: da da. 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: I play a game. 106 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: I play a sport as my job that I love, 107 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: so like there has to be we got to meet 108 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: in the middle as media, fans athletes, like we all 109 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: have to meet in the middle of this is a sports, 110 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: this is a game. 111 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: It's fun. 112 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: And I don't know at what point all of that 113 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: got lost amongst everybody, Like I feel like we lost 114 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: a plot of what's sporting. 115 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: Let me introduce the topic just in case our listeners 116 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about. So basically, Anthony Edwards 117 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: came out and said that he didn't want to be 118 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: the face of the NBA, I believe, right after All 119 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Star weekend, and obviously everybody's been kind of trying to 120 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: put this new face on the NBA of the NBA 121 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: title onto him, and he basically came out and said 122 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't want it. That's what Winby's for. I'm good. 123 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: And then obviously a lot of people had stuff to 124 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: say about that, and then Lebron James gave his take 125 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: on it. And said, Okay, why would anyone want to 126 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: be the face of our league when the people who 127 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: cover our league and talk about our league are shitting. 128 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: On it all the time. 129 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: Thus started a whole debate over the conversations rounding athletes, 130 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: the coverage surrounding athletes. Athletes like they're being unfairly covered media, 131 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: certain media have all different types of opinions on it, 132 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: which we'll get into in a second. But Steven Asmath 133 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: will just go on by name, basically came back at Lebron, 134 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: essentially proving his point, saying, well, if we can't criticize you, 135 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: what the hell can we talk about? And I don't 136 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: criticize you when you ruined the dunk contest and blah 137 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Thus LEXI enter your take. 138 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: It's just like and we say all the time on 139 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 3: Gils Gil even though people are like Gil and we 140 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: talk a lot of nonsense, We make a lot of jokes. 141 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: If you really peel back all the layers, we all 142 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: are athletes, professional athlete, college athletes. At the core, Gil 143 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: always says, don't tell me why you don't like that player, 144 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: tell me why you love this player. 145 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: I just it's why is that so hard for people 146 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: to do. 147 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: You do not. 148 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: I mean it's even within life. 149 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: You don't have to tear down so somebody else to 150 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: uplift this person. Just talk about how much you love 151 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: this person and all the things amazing things that they do, 152 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: without even bringing in all these other people and tearing 153 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 3: them down, because you need to like catapult your fave. 154 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: Like I just don't, like I'm. 155 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: Like looking back. 156 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: First of all, I don't know why now Lebron decided 157 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: to say that because and I'm glad he did, but 158 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: like this has been a problem with the coverage of sports, 159 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: I think for a while now, where like people just 160 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: nitpick at like weird things, like someone could be like, oh, 161 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: Luca had a triple double, but we're going to talk 162 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: about like the six turnovers he had, or like the 163 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: defense he didn't play. He had a triple double and 164 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: they won. Why why do we have to nitpick anything 165 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: in that moment? Like I'm all for constructive criticism, and 166 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: I said that to you on Twitter. There is a 167 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: very fine line between personal attacks and constructive criticism, and 168 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: the media is like tiptoeing that line, like we saw 169 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: it with Lebron and Bronnie Why does Lebron's son have 170 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: anything to do with the twenty plus years Lebron has 171 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: been in the league, Like that has nothing to do 172 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: with anything? 173 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I do have a response to that. What Bronni 174 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: has to do with Lebron's twenty plus year career is 175 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: the fact that Bronni would not be in the NBA 176 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: if it weren't for that twenty plus years of career. 177 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: So that's that's where the relevance comes in. I do 178 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: think that the people cross the line though. 179 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand that for Bronni, Okay, you got to 180 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,239 Speaker 3: prove yourself what he's doing, and he's doing it very gracefully. 181 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: But for Broun, what is that? Like? 182 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: We know it And I don't like to throw people's 183 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 3: business out, but we know what Michael Jordan's Sun was 184 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: doing a few weeks ago. 185 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: What was he doing, Maric? She made a video about it, 186 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: right right? Was rest of her? 187 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: D you why exactly? I think that, like you said, 188 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: there is a fine line between constructive criticism and personal attacks. 189 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: I also think that what people are ignoring because it 190 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: seems like everybody is kind of complaining about everything right now. 191 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: The media is complaining about the league. The league is 192 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: complaining about the media, the fans are complaining about both. 193 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: It's confusing. But I think what coming from a sort 194 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: of media perspective because I'm on social media, but I 195 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: feel like my job is it necessarily to please the 196 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: athletes I'm talking about as much it is as it 197 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: is to please my audience. And one thing I mentioned 198 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: when I was talking about this on Twitter, also, I 199 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: don't agree with Steven A. I want to like get 200 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: that out because people got confused on Twitter. I disagree. 201 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: I think it was way too much with. 202 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he does way too much when it 203 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: comes to covering athletes and black athletes in particular, and 204 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: he knows that. Like I don't care. But I think 205 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: for me at least, there is a thirst and a 206 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: hunger for people to hear about those negative things that 207 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: media say. And I think it's unfair for media that 208 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: what they say constantly gets clipped into the very negative 209 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: part of what they say. For example that Lebron quote 210 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: where he says the media is constantly shitting on our game. 211 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: He also went on to say he understands that it's 212 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: a responsibility about being a part of the league whatever, 213 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: but nobody heard that part because they just flip it 214 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: into the entire clip. But that rage make comes from 215 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: the fact that that's what fans want to see. I 216 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: don't care what the fans say, Oh, we want to 217 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: hear you guys, like we want analysis over storylines and 218 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. As somebody in social media who 219 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: studies my analytics, No they don't. They want to hear 220 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: more about why the NBA's ratings are low and why 221 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: Joel Embiid isn't playing, and they want to hear that 222 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: stuff more than they want to hear about the positive stuff. Now, 223 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: where the media has a duty is we do draw 224 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: the line for what they're hearing, and so there needs 225 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: to be more of a balance. I don't think that 226 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: athletes should be void of all criticism at all, actually, 227 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: But at the same time, like you said, if you're 228 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: going to talk about Lebron's quote about the media shitting 229 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: on players for an hour and a half on first take, 230 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: you probably should mention the fact that Steph Curry dropped 231 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: the six points to night exactly. Like that should come 232 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: up at the top of the show, not at the 233 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: very end, because you know, like fans are thirsting to 234 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: hear that spicy who's going to be the face? Both 235 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: people love those conversations and I love to have them 236 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: in real life. Yeah, but if you want the fans 237 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: to direct more of their attention to what's actually happening 238 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: on the court, then you need to mention that at 239 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: the very beginning and mention that more and that other 240 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: stuff needs to be a smaller percentage. 241 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: Transitioning this to like the w what the coverage of 242 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: our league is going to look like this summer, because 243 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: I feel like the last year, the way the women's 244 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: coverage has shifted and changed changed, and last summer, like 245 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: we said, it was very poorly covered. It was they 246 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: didn't do the league the justice it deserved as far 247 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: as the talent, the storylines, everything. 248 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: They kind of hyper focused. 249 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: On one thing and just let it go whatever it 250 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: had to go. Now that the NBA players have mentioned 251 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: the unfairness quote unquote of the media coverage, I wonder 252 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: how that's going to affect how they cover the w 253 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: Because we say, I say it all, I've said it 254 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: for years. The coverage of the WNBA is subpar at best, 255 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: I think, and I think when they do decide to 256 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: put some time and energy into it with Drea Cheney, 257 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: n L the Big Three, it's amazing, but that's like 258 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 3: few and far between, like they have so many other 259 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: things that they're covering, and WNBA, I feel like, has 260 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: always been like back like, oh oh there's a w 261 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: A game today, Okay goo, y'all three go turn turns 262 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: up and be up for a few days and then 263 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: come back and cover everything else. So I'm very interested 264 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: to see if this sentiment carries over because again with women, 265 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: you know, people feel like they got a tiptoe, like, no, 266 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: we still want fair coverage, we want analysis, we want 267 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: constructive criticism. But I hope that they don't because I 268 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: just feel like when it comes to women's sports, it's 269 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: like it's all or nothing. So it's like now you've 270 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: heard what the guys have to say, so now when 271 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 3: it comes to the women, there's like, okay, well athlete, 272 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: like we're just not going to say anything about them. 273 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: And I hope that that doesn't happen because this season 274 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: of the w I feel like it's going to be 275 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: the most fun, the most interesting. The storylines are crazy, 276 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: like we might have to be the narrative starters Mariah 277 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: for the summer. 278 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,359 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like part of that problem comes from 279 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: the people in power that we're not seeing. I feel 280 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: like a lot of the blame whenever we have this 281 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: conversation about athletes and the media of how the w 282 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: is being covered, the lack thereof coverage when it comes 283 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: to WNBA comes from the people in suits at ESPN, ABC, 284 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: the networks that we're not seeing. And so everybody wants 285 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: to blame stephen A. Smith or this person or that person, 286 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: but these are the big fish. Like part of the problem, 287 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: I think is the fact that the number one voice 288 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: we're hearing about sports on every network for every sport 289 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't be steven A. And this is coming from 290 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: somebody who is I've never played any of the sports 291 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: that I'd be talking about. I mean I played them, 292 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: but like on a very teeny tiny level. I'm not 293 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: a pro, okay, And I'm very aware that if I'm 294 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: having a certain level of conversation, if a certain level 295 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: of analysis is happening, obviously I need to have somebody 296 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: next to me that knows a little bit more than 297 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: I do. It's just common sense, and I think steven 298 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: A does a good job of that, but at the 299 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: same time, it's like, who are we promoting as the 300 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: premier voices for each sport? Right when it comes to WNBA, 301 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: you men like Cheney, l Andrea. There's so many great 302 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: voices that I think it's up to those people at 303 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: the top of the totem pool to promote them more 304 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: and to make sure that we're constantly seeing ads of them, 305 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: that we're seeing their face as much as we're seeing 306 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: faces like Steven A. Smith, because that's why he gets 307 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: every when everybody's oh, the media, the media does this. 308 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: The media does that well. I watch a lot of 309 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: basketball coverage where even like a Brian Windhorse he's not 310 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: a professional basketball player, is very positive and Andrea is 311 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: very positive. El duncan Is I think does a very 312 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: good job of towing the line of entertainment, analysis and 313 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: storylines like she does all of that. She makes me laugh. 314 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: She'll make fun of you if you need to be 315 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: made fun of, but she also can be very serious 316 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: and analytical when need be so, and I think that 317 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: they need to put her on more stuff. And Chaney 318 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: also like, obviously she's on NBA's Today and stuff, but 319 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: push her the same way you're pushing all of these 320 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: other people, and then maybe everybody won't be so angry 321 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: and the players will be so angry. 322 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: Why everybody met, I don't, like I'm trying to figure out, 323 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: like I understand, even with my personal journey in the league, 324 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: Like I see why some athletes are frustrated. I see 325 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: why they're like, why are y'all talking about me? Like, 326 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: y'all have no idea what I went through? Y'all have 327 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: no idea what goes on behind the scenes. And I 328 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: think also there's like an athlete code, Like I can't 329 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: imagine if all of a sudden, the athlete code like 330 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: evaporated from everybody's brain because people are talking about this 331 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: is going on in this team, this is going on 332 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: in this camp. Da da da dah, And what's the 333 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: athlete code? You don't talk about what goes on for real, 334 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: that whatever is going on behind the scenes stays behind 335 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: the scenes, no matter how messed up it is, no 336 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: matter if you are getting thrown under the bus. You 337 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: do not come out and put air out dirty laundry. 338 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: That's not a thing. You don't do that. 339 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: And I feel like a lot of people like they 340 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: understand it, but like no one has really come out 341 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: like and been like y'all, like people are like you 342 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: guys don't know, Like it's typical. You don't know what's 343 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: going on in the locker room. You don't know what's 344 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: going on in practice. No, you don't, and you're never 345 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: going to know unless you pull up and see it, 346 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: which you can't. But it's like so many storylines narratives 347 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: get thrown out and athletes just have to like just 348 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: sit smile away because you got to be a professional 349 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: through it all because you have no idea what is 350 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: going on? 351 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: At what level do you think former or current athletes 352 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: that are doing media now, at what level do you 353 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: think it's too much? Because a lot of people connected 354 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: with Lebron said to inside the NBA, and I saw 355 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: people coming at me about how Charles Barkley called No, 356 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't been cments, it was Anthony Davis, how he 357 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: calls him street clothes and how that's like disrespectful and 358 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: personal and step I personally think that's funny, But I'm 359 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: not Anthony David because funny are. 360 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: You are always in street clothes? 361 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so but that's what I'm asking, Like 362 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: genuinely out of curiosity. 363 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: Where is the I feel like, And we don't see 364 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 3: it as much in the W because we don't have 365 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: as many games. You don't have like load management, Like 366 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: that's not a thing in the W yet. I hope 367 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: it never becomes a thing. But we also don't have 368 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: the schedule that those guys have. But it's like after 369 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: I have been sidelined for the last two years and 370 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 3: you hear people constantly digging at your availability and stuff, 371 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: it's like one of those things like you don't really 372 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: understand it until it happens to you. Like you can 373 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 3: have empathy for people and you can feel like, oh, 374 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: like he's always hurt, like that must suck, but like 375 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 3: until it is you in that position, like you really 376 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: don't know how annoying it is when people are always 377 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: just like you are never on the court, you're never this, 378 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 3: you're never that. But yeah, you look at these guys. 379 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 3: They're making tens and hundreds of millions of dollars, so 380 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 3: it's like you have you throw that into the mix 381 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: and people kind of lose the empathy, which understandably I 382 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: get it, but it's like being the bro, like that's 383 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 3: for us that's the fun. Like we're at the fun part, 384 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 3: Like getting to the highest level, Like that's that was 385 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: the goal. Like we all had a little notebooks, we 386 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: had our essays in school. 387 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: What do you want to be when you get older? 388 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: I want to be a professional basketball player. 389 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: Cool, we're there now the end, Like we're going to 390 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 3: keep working and grinding, but like this has been like 391 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: ten twenty thirty years of work for a lot of us, 392 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: and people are starting to make it like not fun 393 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: and make us feel like less than because we've made 394 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: it to the top. And it's just like expectation after 395 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: expectation after expectation. 396 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: Which I trust me, I understand. 397 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: And as fans, we owe fans performance, we owe them entertainment. 398 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: They're spending money on us, they support us, they love us, 399 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: all these things. But it's like at the end of 400 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 3: the day, like getting to the highest level, like that 401 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 3: was it, Like that was plan a for so many 402 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 3: of us, and we got there and now now. 403 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: We're just like living life and having. 404 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: Fun because we've been we had to sacrifice so much early. 405 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: So it's like it's sad when I look at players 406 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: like Lebron, who's what forty, Like we talked about him 407 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: like he's seventy six, he's forty, like. 408 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: He has so he has his entire life still to 409 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: enjoy the fruits of his labor. 410 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 3: And everybody just constantly like, you're not this, You're not that, 411 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 3: You're not that. Da da da da, even with DT 412 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: with her retirement, Diana Tarossi, Cannie Parker, Maya the way 413 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: those three and Elena Deladon, which she hasn't officially retired yet, 414 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: but she kind of just rode off into the sunset. 415 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: They weren't around really when social media was like this, 416 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: but as women like, we feel things deeper, like that's 417 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: just a thing. We don't make as much money, we can't, 418 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: we can't block things out as much as the men can. 419 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: I understand why they kind of were just like cool, 420 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: I'm done, bye, me too. And then you see Diana 421 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: she goes on the view Whoopy Goldberg pronounces her name 422 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 3: freaking incorrectly, like she called her that's Teresi, and of 423 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: course Diana, in her true fashion, then called Whoopy whippy. 424 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: She said, Whiopy. 425 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: Goldber, but I don't see oh yeah, whoop for whoopy 426 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: mispronounced Diana Rossi's name. Coming on the View to announce 427 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: her retirement, pronounces her name incorrectly, and. 428 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: That's terrible for us long it's a funny joke, but 429 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: it's just like, no, it's not a joke, Like it's 430 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: not funny, like it's not not pronounced Diana Tarossi's name, 431 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: Like it's a very easy name. For as long as 432 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 1: she's been doing this, I know if with my little 433 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: broadcasting amount of career that before I do a panel anything, 434 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: you ask how to pronounce people's names. 435 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you don't know. 436 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: But it's like that's just one on one yeah, And it. 437 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 3: Was like funny ha ha, like oh, just girls making misss. No, 438 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: you would never do that to a man, I'm sorry, 439 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: like you would never do your. 440 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: Professional and Diana because she would know the name of 441 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: a men's coach. 442 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: Like so for her, that's how she came into announce 443 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: officially announcing her retirement on the View, which is I 444 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 3: don't I don't know why she went on the View, 445 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: but hey, it's a. 446 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: Lot of eyes. 447 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: I don't leadership, but I know after that moment happened, 448 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: she's like, oh no, why did I come on here? 449 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: But Diana handled it in the Diana way mispronounced will 450 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: Be's name right back to her. 451 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: But that's in no. I will say that a huge 452 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: part of this, and I want to say I think 453 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: that with athletes and with this like complaint of coverage 454 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: that they're experiencing, part of the issue is social media 455 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: and comments. I feel like if they were just reading 456 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: this stuff, you were just reading this stuff about yourselves 457 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: in the newspaper, it would just it would be a 458 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: little bit less all consuming. But because of social media, 459 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: and because not only does steven A I keep using 460 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: him as an example, but he's the biggest person, right, yeah, 461 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: the biggest fish. Steven A comes out and says Kevin 462 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: Durant is the softest superstar or whatever, and that's just 463 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: the headline. On top of that, Kevin Durant is getting 464 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: hundreds of comments and people also calling him the same thing. 465 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: But I think it's important for us all to realize 466 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: that this social media world is new to all of 467 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: us and it's unfortunate that everybody has something to say 468 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: about everything and it explodes everything into a much bigger 469 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: deal than it needs to be. Like, even if I 470 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: calls up Kevin Durant soft, I'm getting insulted Kevin Durant. 471 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: Is getting inside everybody. 472 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: We're all getting insulted, and everybody's getting in. 473 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: Time bring somebody else they like. The right reaching that 474 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: people do online is actually. 475 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm being stupid, Kevin Durant soft. Everybody's dumb. It's like, 476 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: the whole thing is ridiculous. I think that we all 477 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: just need to I've gotten a lot better with comments 478 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: and stuff, just based on the fact that everybody gets 479 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: it's happens to everybody. Nobody has anything to say about anything. 480 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: I was just before we started recording looking at all 481 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: of the Oscars looks. 482 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: And. 483 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: So nobody has anything I say about anything ever, nothing, nothing, nothing. 484 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I said, maybe the most perfect dress ever. 485 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I say it all the time. 486 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: People don't get embarrassed in public enough. People don't feel 487 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 3: awkward in public enough. Like all people need on the 488 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: internet is one person to be like, I agree with you, 489 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 3: and they're like, my point is valid. So I'm going 490 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: to just keep reiterating this point because somebody out there, 491 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: they could be across the world, across the country, they 492 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: couldn't abot It's not even a real person agrees with me. 493 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna keep hammering this point home. 494 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: Over and over and over. 495 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: You know how people are like boo tomatoes like people 496 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: don't People don't feel that anymore in real life. 497 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: Part of the problem is back in the day, you 498 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: used to actually have to boose somebody to their face 499 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: and throw tomatoes, which it would take a lot for 500 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: people to get that angry about something to do that, 501 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: whereas now you can just send tomato emojis, comment boo 502 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: from your living realm, which it doesn't feel as right, 503 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel as serious. 504 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 2: Send of me and I don't listen. 505 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: I understand being critical of staff. I have stuff to 506 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: say about stuff all the time. I sent somebody's dressed 507 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: to my best friend earlier and I said, this is 508 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: absolutely horrible, and that's where he said, I'm not going 509 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: to comment on their Yeah, right, I'm. 510 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: Not gonna com chat. Do y'all have friends? 511 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: Every time I see a negative comment, I'm just like, 512 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: you don't have a group chat to send this to. 513 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: You don't have a best de to send this to. 514 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: Never in my life have I looked here's a here's 515 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: a crazy example. And I'm so sorry to our listeners 516 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: for this example. My Instagram reels timeline is absolutely ridiculous. 517 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: It makes no sense. I don't know why I get 518 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: the videos. I get whatever go on my reels yesterday 519 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 3: it is a page about a man with five wives. There, okay, 520 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: the whole page is about this man with his five wives, 521 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: and the entire page is dedicated to them addressing the 522 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: negative comments about their lifestyle. 523 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: I don't have. 524 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: Any opinion on someone else's lifestyle. I don't care, but 525 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: I was every video was them responding to something negative 526 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: that somebody said under a post that they made regardless 527 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: of their lifestyle. 528 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: Their posts were cringey as hell. I don't care if 529 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: you have one. 530 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: Wife, five wives, your content is weird, like, it's weird content. 531 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm not. 532 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: Never in my brain did it say, let me type out, 533 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: I hate your content, it's weird. 534 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: I kind of internally had my. 535 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: Dialogue and I was like, I don't really like this, 536 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 3: and I moved on. Now I'm talking about it here again. 537 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 2: We don't know. 538 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: I don't even remember the page. I don't remember these 539 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 3: people's names. I just remember seeing it, feeling how I felt, 540 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 3: and I just moved on. Why is it so hard 541 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 3: for everybody to do? I think we as public figures. 542 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: I think that again, people are insecure, so when somebody 543 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 3: comes at your lifestyle or something like that. And another 544 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: thing that is new to me from being online is 545 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: people writing things about me that are wrong, like one 546 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: thing that I've wanted to show myself correct incorrect. This 547 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: happens to you all the time, people assuming things about 548 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: your health, and I'm sure this happens to other people 549 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: who get made fun of about their health all the time, 550 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: like a Ben Simmons or a Joel Embiid or you Like, 551 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure that that is very annoying. 552 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I've learned that social media 553 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: has given people the unique ability to all be in 554 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: the public eye. Like I'm just a girl in my 555 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: room and I'm now in the public eye, and it's 556 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: like people are gonna have people are gonna have something 557 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: to say about me, regardless whether it's true or not. 558 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: And I have to have enough self control to know 559 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: that being able to do something cool like play basketball 560 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: for a living or make videos for a living or 561 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,239 Speaker 1: talk about sports for living. The downside to that is 562 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: people are going to say stuff, and the sooner we 563 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: accept that and move on and stop giving it. The 564 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: attention the sooner it's going to slow down. People get 565 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: fully famous off of being trolls and being haters and 566 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: talking about people and making fun of people. Like, it's 567 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: time to stop paying so much attention to that. It's 568 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's a reality and the situation. 569 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 3: Some people get famous because nobody likes them, right, Like 570 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: I see pictures and posts, it's not a single nice 571 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: thing is said, but they keep put like but again, 572 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: it's like something off. People clearly don't like your content. 573 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: There means you like that just can't be good mentally 574 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: for anybody, But they continue to post because it's engagement. 575 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: It's money, Like I get it from like a lifestyle standpoint, 576 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: it's easy money. But I don't like negative things being 577 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: said to me, whether they're true or not. 578 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: But like, there are people who literally make a living. 579 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: Pissing people off, And I don't who's scarier. 580 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: Who's scarier the person making a living off of being 581 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: pissed off pissing people off, or the people enjoying being 582 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: pissed off so much that those people are getting hundreds 583 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: of thousands. 584 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: Of views Exactly. I don't understand. 585 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: Everyone that it's impressive. 586 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: It's very impressive. The rage. 587 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: Being able to monetize rage has been like, it's something 588 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: to me that my mind just simply cannot comprehend. If 589 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: I post something or if I say something, even before 590 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: I put something out, I literally go in my mind internally, 591 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: will this upset any anybody? 592 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: Same? That's sad, but same. 593 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: But it's like, okay, so then yes, okay, we're going 594 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: to go through a little tree chart of how I 595 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: put out content. 596 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: Okay, well this makes people mad? Yes or no? Okay, no, 597 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: good post? Yes? All right? Who you figure out who? 598 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: Okay, it's gonna make this little sector math why. Okay, 599 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: that's not a good reason. Why, So I'm gonna post it, 600 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: Like I just wish people like have that internal dialogue. Like, obviously, 601 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: you don't post things and do things for people to 602 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: like it. Everyone's not gonna like everything that you do. 603 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 3: But if you can, you can get a point across 604 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: without being offensive. You can get a point across without 605 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: hurting somebody's feelings unless something that they're doing is egregious. Obviously, 606 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: these people they deserve to be spoken about how they're 607 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: being spoken about. But also no, they don't because they're egregious. 608 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: We should actually just ignore them and send. 609 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: Them to say. What you said about choosing who you're 610 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: pissing off, because, to be honest, everything that you do, 611 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: especially as black women, Let's be real, everything that we 612 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: do is going to piss somebody off. We just have 613 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: to ask ourselves who exactly are we pissing off? Like, 614 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: to be honest, I'm gonna be real with y'all. LEXI 615 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with it about if I'm pissing 616 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: off like older repubs, white men. 617 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm cool with that. 618 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: Like if they're pissing me, I'm so fine with that. 619 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: Like I am so cool with that. Now if i 620 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: look at what I'm about the post and I'm like 621 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: I might, I just might. There's one person chance I'm 622 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: gonna piss off the girls or the gays or black 623 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: people is not getting posted. I'm sorry. Those are groups 624 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: of people. Not only are they way too funny for 625 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: me to want them to be mad at me. I 626 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: don't want to be a meme. I don't want them insulting. 627 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: Me main character. 628 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: You do not want to be the main character of 629 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: black Twitter ever, right in your life, right ever? 630 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: Ever, So, if I'm gonna piss the girls, the gays, 631 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: or black people off. That's just not gonna happen now 632 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: if I'm pissing off like the pubs. 633 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: The pubs, And again it's just like, why tell me why. 634 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: I'm always I'm a big make it make sense. So 635 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: I'm a very understanding person. I love to learn. One 636 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: of our clips from our last our free agency emergency 637 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: episode was going crazy on Twitter from a page that 638 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: actually I had blocked. He'll probably watch this now, so 639 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: shout out to you. I don't remember his page name, 640 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: but he was blocked. It was about us talking about 641 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 3: players wanting to go to Indiana for free agency, and 642 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: you know, you already know how people felt about me 643 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: and my comments about the rookies and all that kind 644 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: of stuff. But again, people clip certain things because like 645 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: it's an art, it is a skill to clip fifteen 646 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: seconds of an entire conversation that you know is going 647 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: to start a dialogue. And I have fallen victim to 648 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: that quite as many times online. 649 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: And again I don't care exactly. 650 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: We don't care because when you listen to the totality 651 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: of the conversation, you know that I didn't say anything wrong, 652 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: I didn't say anything bad, I didn't say anything harmful. 653 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: I didn't say anything negative, but in this little clip, 654 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: it's going to start a dialogue. And that getting in 655 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 3: media and getting in social media, specifically podcasting, I understand 656 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: that's how you get people to come watch your videos 657 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: or talk talk about them, and that's just comes as 658 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: the game is the game. Oh well, but as long 659 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: as I've always stood firm and okay, like y'all can 660 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: be mad at me for this ten second clip, I 661 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 3: know what I said in the entire conversation, so I 662 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: don't care what y'all are saying. 663 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: So now everyone's like, oh, we love this podcast, we 664 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: love LuxI. 665 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: Great because we've been taking this the entire time. If 666 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: Indiana said Lexi, do you want to come play here? 667 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: I probably would have said yes, Like what are you 668 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: kidding me? Real? 669 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: Like please? 670 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: This has been something that I, as somebody who gives 671 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: my opinion about a lot of stuff, get attacked for 672 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: so often. It's I'm gonna change my mind about stuff 673 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: and feel different ways about different things depending on who 674 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, what weather it is outside. Like that 675 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: doesn't make me a hypocrite or wishy washy. I'm just 676 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: a normal person. For example, I'm currently getting attacked on 677 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: the internet because I a couple of weeks ago after 678 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar's Grammy sweep said okay, we and you know 679 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: we're both Drake girls. 680 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: Girl, I don't even started last night being my friend 681 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: of the car screaming you. 682 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: Can never make me hate you Drake. They can never 683 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: back he hate you his album with Party, right, And. 684 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: So, okay, that's funny because I posted a video of 685 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: me dressed up as Drake for Halloween where I said 686 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: they can never make me hate Drake, and I was 687 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: getting attacked and being told I have no morals because 688 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 1: I am a Drake fan, right. And so then after 689 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: the Grammys, I made a video and I was like, Okay, 690 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: this is kind of crazy that all of Drake's peers 691 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: and coworkers aka the music industry are singing the song 692 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: calling him a PDF file like I'm sideyeing that. 693 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 694 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: Not one person is like, hey, that's my friend. I'm 695 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: not going to sing that that everybody. That's crazy. 696 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: First of all, I do want to say I have 697 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: taken a high. It is from rap music as a whole. 698 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 2: I hate it. I love the rap girlies. 699 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 3: I love like I really think the rap girlies are 700 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: carrying rap right now, Doci Lotto Meg, I really think 701 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: that they're carrying rap flow Milly. 702 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: I cannot listen to it anymore. 703 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: It is so negative, it's so mean, it's violence disgusting. 704 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 3: But exactly when I tell you I listened to music 705 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 3: for the vibes, when I tell you, I had no 706 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 3: idea that Kendrick was calling Drake that For months I've. 707 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 2: Been on in the car a minor. I had no 708 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: idea what we were talking about. 709 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: You thought they was talking about a note. 710 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: I was talking about a music note. I had no 711 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: idea that that. 712 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: Was what the song was about until like all the 713 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 3: lost started coming out and I was like, I did 714 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 3: not listen to a single lyric of the song. I 715 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: just like dancing to the look I'm in la now 716 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 3: you know everybody do this little la whatever. I had 717 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 3: no idea once I found out that was the topic 718 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: of the song. That song, because it has not been played, 719 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: I don't even think it's in my library anymore. And 720 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 3: that's not a like I'm defending Drake, like I don't 721 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: even know how we got to this conversation. 722 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: But it's just like I don't like I. 723 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 3: Don't like it negative exactly, and that's the negativity away. 724 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: It's everywhere. It's in music, it's in sports, it's in me, 725 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 3: it's everywhere. 726 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: But that's why I try to take things as they 727 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: are and just have fun. And that's why with with 728 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: that whole the song situation, my point with leading back 729 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: to sports was I feel like, so I said, Okay, 730 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: that is weird that all these people are singing that 731 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 1: song and like enjoying it like that kind of makes 732 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: me side eyed because I'm like, yo, why are all 733 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: these people calling you that? Like that's insane. So then 734 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: when Drake's album comes out and I'm I'm bopping to 735 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: Nokia like everybody everybody on Nokia, They're like, I thought 736 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: you was ov. Oh, let's get this right right now. 737 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: I don't have any sort of undying loyalty to any 738 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: person I've never met. 739 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 2: Before, are you, Guys? They do not? Are you? 740 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm going to when something's ugly, I'm gonna say 741 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: I think it's ugly and and and guess what if 742 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: I think Meghan the Stallion's dress last night was ugly, 743 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: She's just an example. I love that girl. If I 744 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: think her dress last night was ugly, and I also 745 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: think her dress next week is beautiful. That's okay, Like 746 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: I can change my mind. And it's the same thing 747 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: with sports. If I think that, you know, maybe people 748 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: would want to play for Indiana because they're killing it 749 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: during free agency, but I also think that, you know, 750 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: their fans can be a little racist and a little 751 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: out of hand. Sometimes those are okay, like' but I 752 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: do want to mention as far as hate is concerned 753 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: online hate and everybody being negative, I feel like I 754 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: know Labron probably experiences hate to a high degree because 755 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: if I experience hate, I can only imagine what Labron. 756 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 3: I think people also need to think about that your 757 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 3: little hate bubble? Do you think you have think about 758 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: When I have my little moments of like, oh why 759 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 3: is everybody be mean? I quite literally just think of 760 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 3: Lebron James and I'm like. 761 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: You know what, right or anybody beyond so Drake. But 762 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: one person I really think about is I think the 763 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: only person I can think of in sports who really 764 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: has a hay train on them that I feel like 765 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: it's unfair and unnecessary is Angel Reese. 766 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 3: That it's discussed, girl, it's absolutely ridiculous. 767 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: I have never seen anything like it. It's crazy sports 768 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: and entertainment. I have never seen anything like her comment 769 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: section or my comment section when I post about her, 770 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: so I can only imagine Riyah. 771 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 3: I had a video of me on my TikTok people, 772 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 3: it's still up there. 773 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 2: I was in a workout. It was like a ten 774 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: second clip of me in a training session. 775 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 3: If anybody wants to see me playing basketball, it's on TikTok. 776 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't put basketball stuff on Instagram. 777 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 3: I'll put pictures on Instagram, but workout videos, highlights. 778 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 2: That's all on TikTok. Like I put that over. 779 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: There, she does. 780 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 3: I had a video of me working out, and usually, 781 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 3: like I love my followers and supporters. They're very they 782 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: love when I hoop, like and I appreciate y'all, Like 783 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 3: y'all literally got me back on the court because everyone 784 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 3: that follows me and supports me started when I was younger, 785 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 3: playing at Dude, playing at Maryland. Like, they know I 786 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 3: can hoop, So I've always appreciated that about them. So 787 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 3: whenever I put up basketball content, it's overwhelmingly positive, right, 788 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 3: overwhelmingly positive. So sometimes if I need a little pick 789 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 3: me up, let me drive a little basketball picture. Let 790 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 3: me drop a little basketball video because I know, like y'all. 791 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 2: Gonna make me feel good. I put up this video 792 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: and it was just negative, negative, negative, negative, eggave. 793 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 3: And I was just like, it was just me shooting 794 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 3: jump shots, which like, it's not cat like that's the thing. 795 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: Sometimes players will post something and they'll be like, that's 796 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 3: not even how you. That's not even you. This is 797 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 3: not how you play. All I gotta do is shoot 798 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 3: post a little shooting video. It's cool because people, I'm valid, 799 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 3: I'm stamped as a shooter. So I was getting all 800 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 3: of these negative comments, and I was just like, what 801 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 3: is going on here? Why are y'all being so mean 802 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 3: to me? On TikTok, I. 803 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: Thought I was Angel Rees I mean and shout out 804 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 2: to Angel. 805 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: We always talk about her, all of them, all the 806 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 3: w players, the. 807 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: Rookies, everybody. We love y'all. 808 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: But my entire comment section for that particular video thought 809 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 3: I was Angel and they were so mean, and I 810 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 3: was just like. 811 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: That's why I'm like when she cried in that postgame interview, 812 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: I believe it was I think when LS the last 813 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,479 Speaker 1: heard and. 814 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 2: She was sexualizing me. 815 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: I That's why I literally have stamped myself as the 816 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: Angel Reese defense attorney on TikTok. I like, she could 817 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: be wrong and I'm an opportuny. I don't fit it 818 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: because that's gonna get clipped and they're going to use 819 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: that against me. Lord help me. But anyways, because I 820 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: think that the hate that she gets is so forced 821 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: and so. 822 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 2: Very unwarranted, and she's a kid. 823 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: Also, I want to mention for all of you. I 824 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: think there's this and we could probably do a whole 825 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: episode on just this particular topic. But when it comes 826 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: to being a woman and things that women get criticized 827 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: for that men don't i e. Body image, i e. 828 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: Being sexualized, things like that. When Angel says something like 829 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm constantly being sexualized and then she puts on something 830 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: sexy and y'all say, see, you want to be sexualized. 831 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: There's a difference between being sexy and being complimented and 832 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, appreciating a woman then sexualizing her and being 833 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: weird and being ode like and not. I see that 834 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: come with the WNBA players all the time. It's like 835 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: this weird like y'all want y'all They want y'all to 836 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: be sexy because that makes them able to appreciate you. 837 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 3: A page, right, but then you are sexy and now stop. 838 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 3: But I'm just like okay. The happy medium between that 839 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 3: is be yourself. 840 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, like wow, that's a word. 841 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 3: Don't pander to what people want you to be or 842 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 3: don't want you to be. If you are just simply 843 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 3: you and people have an opinion about it, it's not 844 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 3: going to bother you. Like for me, for example, I 845 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 3: remember being in high school and college like posting bathing 846 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 3: suit photos and photos with your shirt like that was 847 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 3: it was, no, don't do it, you cannot do it. 848 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 2: And I feel like. 849 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 3: As a young girl, you probably shouldn't, Like you shouldn't 850 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 3: probably put pictures up in your bathroom in your bikini. Now, 851 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 3: if you're at the beach, if you're at the pool, 852 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 3: do whatever you want. That's just how I was raised. 853 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 3: And if just if you do something differently, I don't 854 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 3: judge you. I don't think you're a bad person, but like, 855 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 3: there are societal norms that you have to kind of 856 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 3: think about when you put something out there to be consumed, 857 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 3: And that circles back to what we were talking about, 858 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: when you put something out there to be consumed and 859 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 3: commented on it's gonna be consumed and commented on. But negative, 860 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 3: overwhelming negativity is insane. But I remember I didn't really 861 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 3: get comfortable posting on my socials, like posting on game days, 862 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 3: posting night before games. I didn't really get comfortable with 863 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 3: that until maybe like five years ago. Like, yeah, there's 864 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 3: certain things like even as a professional athlete, you're always 865 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 3: constantly thinking like, oh, this person's gonna look this person's 866 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: that's things that people that are not athletes. I don't 867 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 3: have a front office, I don't have a GM that 868 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: don't have brands and sponsors looking at you. They don't 869 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 3: have to think about stuff like that. But I agree 870 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 3: with you, the hate that she gets is insane. And 871 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 3: once I realized that the comments were not to me, 872 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 3: I I didn't like my feelings weren't hurt because I 873 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 3: was like, these are they they don't think this is 874 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 3: like they're not commenting about me. But I've seen her comments. 875 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 3: I've seen things that people say to her, and I've 876 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 3: always had a lot of empathy and I've always felt 877 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 3: really bad about that because what are you y'all? 878 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 2: What are y'all doing? 879 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 3: But once I saw that in my comment section, it 880 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 3: like it was like a switch was flipped in my brain, 881 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 3: Like this is what she sees this every day, every hour, 882 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 3: doing something that she loves. She's literally leveling up in 883 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 3: every aspect of her life. Whether y'all like it or not, 884 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 3: it's happening. That was like it was like it was 885 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 3: like mind altering, Like I would. 886 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: Have to switch my comments, like that is a power 887 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: move from her because I would have to switch my 888 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: comments to the only people I follow the comment. There 889 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: is no way I would be able to sit and 890 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: look at that all the time and keep my head 891 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: high the way that she does. And that's another reason 892 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: I think that this is so important and what we're 893 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: talking about with coverage is so important because I feel 894 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: like a lot of shows think that they're checking off 895 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: their WNBA coverage box by talking about whatever Angel Reese 896 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: is doing this that may not be about what she 897 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: wore on Wilden Out or something like grown assmen on 898 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: Sports Network television talking about what Angel rees wore on 899 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: Wilden Out. Y'all are weird. That is not covering women's basketball. 900 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: That is weird, and that is sexualizing her. 901 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 3: And even if it's positive, it's weird. 902 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 2: We are professional athletes. 903 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 3: Cover the sport, and if you don't, if you want 904 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 3: to talk about how certain players play, talk about how 905 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 3: certain players play. Again, there is a respectful and analytical 906 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 3: way to talk about players positively and negatively. 907 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 2: Everything that everybody says now. 908 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 3: That I'm seeing, I'm like again, I'm so happy we're 909 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 3: doing this show, especially when the W season starts, because 910 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 3: however I'm playing, however the Storm is playing wherever we're at, Like, 911 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about where we are as a team, 912 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about stats, we're gonna talk about analytics, 913 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about other teams. We're gonna get into 914 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 3: it because it is so verely lacking. And I thought 915 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 3: after the college season, after how amazing the W season was, 916 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 3: it was going to. 917 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 2: Improve, and it has gotten worse. I didn't think it 918 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 2: could get worse. Have you heard. 919 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 3: Anything about women's college basketball this year anywhere? 920 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 2: Really? 921 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: Not well, not really outside of Juju, And even with Juju, 922 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: it's still very minimal. 923 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: Like I have been in complete disbelief of the coverage 924 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: of the women's college game this year, because yes, there's 925 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 3: not a Kaitlin Clark, there's not an Angel Reese, there's 926 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 3: not that rivalry right now. But there is some very 927 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 3: good basketball being played by a lot of players, and 928 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 3: it's just being kicked to the side, and I'm just like, 929 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 3: I don't understand it. Like, for example, this is a 930 00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 3: perfect example. Hailey Vanlyth her redemption arc this year has 931 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 3: been incredible, absolutely amazing. They just won the Big twelve 932 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 3: title at tc freaking U. Like no one is checking 933 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 3: for TCU. Haley van Lidt gets there, she turns it 934 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 3: around like, y'all don't have nothing to say. 935 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you a question. This is coming 936 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: around fair weather. 937 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: But I am okay, I'm curious. 938 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't know TCU has given me. Y'all should be 939 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: y'all should be grown. 940 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 2: Like you know, they're old. They got a lot of old. 941 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: They got a lot of. 942 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 2: They do, but so do the man. Hey, they do 943 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 2: that too. That's how college should be. That's what I'm saying. 944 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: It's so funny. It's like people are like, she's in 945 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 2: her fourth fifth year. Yes she is. 946 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 3: I know y'all are used to twelve year olds being 947 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 3: the league in the NBA, but like, no, like there 948 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 3: was a time where whole championship teams were like twenty two, 949 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 3: twenty three, twenty four. 950 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: No, I'm not you know about about fourth about old. 951 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 2: They are old. But again, so you better win, you. 952 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: Better win, you better win, you better win. Imagine you're 953 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: leaving your walking home from a geography class and you 954 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: know you have to guard a twenty. 955 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 2: Seven year old. 956 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 3: I remember my senior year of college. I was like, 957 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 3: get I'm done. I was twenty three, Get me out 958 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 3: of here. The fact that these girls and guys stay 959 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 3: in college as long as they do. Hey, get your degree, 960 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 3: I'm all for it, trust me, get all the degree money, Yeah, 961 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 3: get all you can get from these schools because they 962 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 3: do not care about you. 963 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 2: I'm there, I'm here for that. 964 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 3: But yes, you're twenty nine in college. You better win 965 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 3: every game you play. You better dominate every game you play. 966 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 3: But the fact that everybody had so much to say 967 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 3: about Hayley at LSU, and that was not a good 968 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 3: decision for her as a fit fit wise, I don't 969 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 3: think her game changed at all. It just wasn't a 970 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 3: good fit. And that happened sometimes. She bet on herself 971 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 3: and went to TCU. Probably got some money over there. 972 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 2: Good for you. 973 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 3: And she's been killing crickets I'm just like again, the rage, baiting, 974 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 3: the negativity. Why does everything have to be negative? Like, yes, 975 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 3: y'all had, y'all got, y'all licks in on her. Trust me, 976 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 3: I remember the memes. I remember it all. 977 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,720 Speaker 2: But now she's turned it around and y'all have nothing 978 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: to say. That is the thing about media I don't like. 979 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 3: Agreed, It's okay when you are presented with new information, 980 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 3: your opinion can change. 981 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 2: That's fine, and that's I think a lot of people 982 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 2: are scared of that. 983 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 3: But because it's because people are so disrespectful, like they 984 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 3: like cross the boundary, like you, there's like a point 985 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: in our return. That's how I feel about my WNBA career. 986 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,439 Speaker 3: So many people cross the boundary, so they just got 987 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 3: to stay over there. And it's okay because I know 988 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 3: that I I've never changed who I am and my 989 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 3: work ethic never changed. But the fact that people are 990 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 3: just overly disrespectful off rip. Then, yeah, you get presented 991 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 3: with new information, you really can't come back actually because 992 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 3: you were so insane. 993 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna say that On. 994 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: The first side, like people don't really give media that's 995 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: unfortunate the opportunity to change their minds, because it's like 996 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 1: if you say, I've said before that I think that 997 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's career is forever going to be saying by 998 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: the fact that he went to Golden State, I don't 999 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: care what he does, I don't care where he goes. 1000 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't think he's a great basketball 1001 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: player whatever, but that narrative is going to follow him 1002 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: for the rest of his career until he retires. It's 1003 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: just the truth. Sorry, But the point is that doesn't 1004 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: mean I can't say some like positive things about him 1005 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: or acknowledge when he is doing well, or acknowledge when 1006 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: he's doing great. And I think that even I like 1007 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: am going to take more responsibility on doing that because, 1008 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 1: for example, if you made a Haley band lit joke 1009 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: or meme, or if you are a media member and 1010 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about people on social media who 1011 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: are like kids in their room getting their back off 1012 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: of like clickbait and make a memes like whatever, do 1013 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 1: what you want, but the people on television, like if 1014 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: you made fun of her when she was getting dusted 1015 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: by or whatever, all the memes like, then you need 1016 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 1: to cover the fact that she's doing well. Now that 1017 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 1: needs that needs to also come up. That's responsible about. 1018 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 3: It exactly, that's responsible media coverage. 1019 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 2: Whatever. 1020 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 3: That she was doing bad before, she's doing great now. 1021 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 3: You had so much to say before, you. 1022 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,439 Speaker 2: Had clearly you have things to say, so say say 1023 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 2: it now. 1024 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 3: So that yeah, again, as an athlete with grievances, since 1025 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 3: we all have grievances, that for me, that has always 1026 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 3: been my biggest issue with how sports are covered is that, Yes, criticism, 1027 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 3: I get it, that's how we're built where you have 1028 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 3: thick skin. 1029 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 2: Trust me, we have thick skin. 1030 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,720 Speaker 3: But when there's good things going on, talk about those 1031 00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,320 Speaker 3: two y'all. People were shitting on Steph Curry all season 1032 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 3: because the Warriors were horrible. They're not they're still not 1033 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 3: winning a championship, and that's okay, but they've turned it 1034 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 3: around a bit. 1035 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 2: They've turned it around. 1036 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 3: He had fifty six points, right mm hmm, and they're like, 1037 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 3: we're not gonna on. 1038 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,879 Speaker 2: The same day. It's like his day. 1039 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 3: I saw it on Twitter, like he's had like whatever 1040 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 3: day that date that was. 1041 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 2: He's had like. 1042 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 3: Career games three straight years. Like that's fun to talk about. 1043 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 3: Like it's like there's no way that people go into 1044 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 3: work every day, go to write, Go sit on their 1045 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 3: little computers and type up a story that y'all it 1046 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 3: brings y'all joy to talk so negatively about everybody all 1047 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 3: the time. 1048 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, it's like psych. 1049 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: Later, But I'm really cited about seventy six ers. 1050 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 3: We have our we have our producers on the show 1051 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 3: right now, Zoe and Grace, like, don't, don't. We're not 1052 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 3: whether I'm having a great season or an okay season, 1053 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 3: You're not gonna stop making episodes Like no, George. 1054 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 2: I feel very bad. You gotta. I've taken that for 1055 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:11,720 Speaker 2: him because. 1056 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 3: He stopped making his shows because again, I because when 1057 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 3: they started losing. 1058 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 2: I I'm like an investigator. 1059 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 3: I actively went to his YouTube page and his podcast 1060 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,720 Speaker 3: pee page to look at the comments and the way 1061 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,919 Speaker 3: people were speaking to him and about him about basketball 1062 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 3: on his little podcast baby that he loves like it's 1063 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 3: a hobby. We've been on what this for an hour? 1064 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 3: One hour once a week, Like that's how long podcasts take, guys. 1065 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 3: Like the way people were speaking to that man online 1066 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 3: and just ruining this outlet that he created for himself. 1067 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 3: It upset me because I'm like, y'all, don't know what 1068 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 3: else he has going on in his life. Y'all just 1069 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 3: see the basketball thing, and I'm just like, I don't 1070 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 3: like that. He had to be like, I'm going to 1071 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 3: take a break from this because I need to focus 1072 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 3: on basketball, like. 1073 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 1: And I hate people are dumb. He has he is 1074 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: Paul George. There is a whole media machine behind that 1075 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: podcast that is like planning the episodes and editing the 1076 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: episodes whatever. He sits down for an hour once a 1077 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 1: week and talks. That's it. 1078 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 3: In his hotel room on the road when he's not 1079 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 3: doing anything anyway. So I mean, and I follow his 1080 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 3: producer on Instagram. We follow each other, and I asked him. 1081 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 3: I genuinely asked him. I said, is it a problem? 1082 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 3: You think it is problematic for players to have podcasts 1083 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 3: in season? And he said, it depends on the player, 1084 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 3: that's all he said. 1085 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 2: And I was. 1086 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 3: I said, all right, We're up for the challenge, Mariah, 1087 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 3: because we full Circle will be in full effect the 1088 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 3: entire w season, no matter what is going on. 1089 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 2: I don't care what nobody says. 1090 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: We in here and I will be asked and I listen, 1091 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: y'all you better know that. That's why I'm here, I'm 1092 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: gonna ask Lexi the questions. She may decline to answer them, 1093 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: but I will be asking yes. 1094 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 3: So anything at all, things, WNBA College, whatever, y'all can 1095 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 3: find it here on the Full Circle podcast. 1096 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 2: This was an amazing episode. I love it. We still 1097 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 2: turns up from Nashville. 1098 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,919 Speaker 1: Let's end on a positive note, and let's each say 1099 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:36,320 Speaker 1: like one positive thing about the sports world that we 1100 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: want the audience to take away. 1101 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 3: The one oh this will be We'll give We'll give flowers. 1102 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 3: I was giving a flower to Haley van Lit. Haley 1103 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 3: van Lit gets a flower, and then I'm going to 1104 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,240 Speaker 3: give flowers to Athletes Unlimited for putting together an amazing 1105 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 3: fourth season. We had a great time. It was amazing. 1106 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 3: Everyone had a blast. And this is my family and 1107 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 3: I love it here. I love it here. 1108 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: As far as my flowers, I want to give them 1109 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 1: to two medium members because I feel like the media 1110 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: has been getting thrashed good. But I want to give 1111 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: my flower one to l Duncan, who I absolutely adore. 1112 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 1: Like for all the reasons I said before. I think 1113 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: that she can be critical and funny and also very 1114 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 1: responsible in the way she covers things. Girl Dad iconic. 1115 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: And then number two. I want to give a flower 1116 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 1: to cheneaum Okay because the way that she talked about 1117 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 1: what you've been talking about this whole episode, and athletes 1118 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: and how they get insulted and what their problem is 1119 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 1: with the coverage of sports. The way that she articulated 1120 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: it really changed my mind about it because I felt 1121 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 1: a little attack on my theat I was like, what 1122 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: the hell y'all want us to say? Then I say 1123 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 1: that yep, And then I watched Shane's take and I said, Oh, 1124 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: she read me like Goaden me all the way out, 1125 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: and I think that she Both of those women need 1126 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 1: to be on every billboard, every television station, every show 1127 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: like they're so talented. 1128 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 3: No, we love them el Cheney, Hayley, Van Liz at 1129 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 3: least unlimited. 1130 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 2: We love y'all. 1131 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 3: This was an amazing episode of Full Circle Podcast and 1132 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,240 Speaker 3: we will see y'all next week. 1133 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 1: Bye. Thanks for listening to Full Circle. We'll be back 1134 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: next week with more basketball for the Girls by the girls. 1135 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. Leave us a review 1136 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts and tell us what you want us 1137 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: to talk about. Full Circle is hosted by a Lexi 1138 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: Brown and Mariah Rose. Our executive producer is Jesse Katz. 1139 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Grace Fuse. Our producer is Zoe Danklab. 1140 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 1: Listen to Full Circle on America's number one podcast network, 1141 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: iHeart Open your Free iHeart app and search Full Circle 1142 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: with Lexi Brown and Mariah Rose and start listening