WEBVTT - The Murder Years: Ep. 7 - Lester

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<v Speaker 1>This series is inspired by true events. The stories you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to hear are fictional, and so are the characters

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<v Speaker 1>who are played by actors.

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<v Speaker 2>Ay swimmers.

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<v Speaker 3>It's top of the hour, which means it's mandatory rest time.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone out of the pool until ten after three.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the summer of nineteen eighty seven. We graduated a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months before, and we're excited for the next

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<v Speaker 1>chapter of our lives to begin. But honestly, losing mister

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<v Speaker 1>Billingsley made all the pomp and circumstance feel kind of trivial,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But yeah, we graduated. I'm hoping the summer

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<v Speaker 1>will be better, and I have high hopes, mainly because

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<v Speaker 1>I am now a lifeguard at Pineside Pool.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, you were so strict, you'd constantly be yelling.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk walk walk true. But you know what, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>No one is going to get hurt on my watch,

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<v Speaker 1>no one. But what happened outside of the pool that

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could have controlled. I'm Nancy Clark. This

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<v Speaker 1>is The Murder Years, Episode seven, Leicester. It's Thursday, August

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, the last weekend of summer, and my friends

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<v Speaker 1>and I will soon be leaving for college. We're all

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<v Speaker 1>excited because on Saturday there's a big keg party at

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<v Speaker 1>the show Walter's farm, and we are all going. Tatiana

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<v Speaker 1>and I are counting down the hours for my lifeguard

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<v Speaker 1>shift to be over.

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<v Speaker 5>I laid out at the pool all day.

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to be supertan.

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<v Speaker 5>After the pool closed, all of us went to Melanie's

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<v Speaker 5>to get ready.

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<v Speaker 1>We are so excited about the party at Shelley's. She's

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<v Speaker 1>in our grade, but we're not super close. She grew

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<v Speaker 1>up out in the country on a fifty acre farm

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<v Speaker 1>with her parents and two older brothers. Her brother's parties

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<v Speaker 1>are legendary. Melanie and I had attended several over the years.

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<v Speaker 7>I remember Shelley's brother had some of the biggest parties

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<v Speaker 7>in the history of Mount Pine. This one would no

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<v Speaker 7>doubt be epic.

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<v Speaker 1>Shelley's parents are away for the weekend and her brothers

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<v Speaker 1>are the quote unquote chaperones.

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<v Speaker 7>I did my first keg stand and Tatiana did her

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<v Speaker 7>first beer bomb that night, but of course we had

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<v Speaker 7>no idea what was going down. Just like three farms away.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine one one, what's your emergency?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we'll just broke into my house. City. Oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>someone's in your house. Hang up the phone. Where are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hang up the phone now? Or out.

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<v Speaker 8>Back?

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty seven, when someone would call into nine

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<v Speaker 1>one one, their location was unknown because this is before

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<v Speaker 1>GPS and caller ID, so unless the caller gives their address,

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<v Speaker 1>first responders don't know where to find them.

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<v Speaker 9>I was at the station when the call came in.

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<v Speaker 9>It was around midnight.

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<v Speaker 1>Officer Pat Shepherd has been working for the Mount Pine

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<v Speaker 1>p D for about three years in nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and in those days he preferred the night shift. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why he was first on the scene at Lisa Anderson's

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<v Speaker 1>murder in episode one, and why he will be again tonight.

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<v Speaker 9>Center was just down the hall and I actually heard

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<v Speaker 9>the call come in. I took notice because it sounded

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<v Speaker 9>like the woman was in danger.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, Shepherd is a sergeant and looking forward to his retirement,

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<v Speaker 1>he agrees to share what he remembers from that day.

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<v Speaker 9>So, yeah, since the woman wasn't able to give her location,

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<v Speaker 9>there was almost nothing we could do. We just had

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<v Speaker 9>to hope she would survive whatever was happening out there

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<v Speaker 9>and then be able to call.

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<v Speaker 6>Us back.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine one one. What's your emergency? He's gone, He's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Joel and McBride. I called before, Where are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm eighty seventh County Road fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're at the party, pretty wasted when we hear

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<v Speaker 1>and see several police cars and ambulances whiz by, and

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<v Speaker 1>we get a little freaked out because most of us

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<v Speaker 1>are underage, everyone pretty much scatters and gets the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of there.

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<v Speaker 9>I remember there were lots of units sent out there

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<v Speaker 9>that night. When we arrived, there was a woman on

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<v Speaker 9>a huge wrap around porch standing there crying with blood

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<v Speaker 9>dripping down her face.

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<v Speaker 2>It was awful. I was so relieved to see the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in August of nineteen eighty seven, joe Ellen McBride

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty three years old and taking care of her grandparents'

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<v Speaker 1>farm while they're out of town visiting family. Today, she's

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight in a vet living in Boise, Idaho. She

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised to get my call, but said she'd share

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<v Speaker 1>her story with me.

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<v Speaker 10>So I remember this night like it was yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 10>told the officer it was maybe around eleven thirty when

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<v Speaker 10>I heard the noise downstairs with my grandparents out of town.

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<v Speaker 10>I was alone in the house, and I was scared.

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<v Speaker 10>At first, I thought it was just the wind or

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<v Speaker 10>the old house which was so creaky. So I laid

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<v Speaker 10>in bed and waited. I mean, I tried really hard

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<v Speaker 10>to talk myself into falling back to sleep because it

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<v Speaker 10>was nothing. I heard nothing. I kept telling myself it

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<v Speaker 10>was nothing. But then I heard another noise that one

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<v Speaker 10>sounded like footsteps. I was really scared. I could feel

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<v Speaker 10>my heart beating in my throat. You know, I decided

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<v Speaker 10>I couldn't just lie there. I needed to go check

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<v Speaker 10>it out or I would never be able to fall

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<v Speaker 10>back to sleep. Was that a smart move or a

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<v Speaker 10>dumb one? Well, I was about to find out. So

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<v Speaker 10>I quietly and slowly went down the stairs, but with

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<v Speaker 10>every step I took, they creaked. When I got down

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<v Speaker 10>to the first floor, standing there in the living room

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<v Speaker 10>was this kid. He was a teenager, a flipping teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>Joellen says. The kid standing in front of her is white,

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<v Speaker 1>around sixteen or seventeen, dirty and shirtless.

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<v Speaker 10>I screamed and he told me to shut up. Then

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<v Speaker 10>he rushed me and punched me twice in the face.

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<v Speaker 10>I fell down and I could feel the blood streaming

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<v Speaker 10>down my face. When I started to cry, he told

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<v Speaker 10>me to shut up.

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<v Speaker 9>While Joellen was telling me all this, she started to

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<v Speaker 9>get very emotional.

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<v Speaker 6>She said.

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<v Speaker 9>The guy started threatening her life unless she gave him money.

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<v Speaker 9>Said she didn't have any money, no more than a

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<v Speaker 9>couple of dollars, which he took from her purse. He

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<v Speaker 9>was mad, and he hit her again. This time he

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<v Speaker 9>punched her right in the eye. Then he said he

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<v Speaker 9>wanted her to cook him some food.

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<v Speaker 1>Joellen says, she makes him a sandwich, and then while

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<v Speaker 1>he's eating it, he asks for a clean shirt. This

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<v Speaker 1>is her chance to call for help.

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<v Speaker 9>She went upstairs to her grandparents bedroom and called nine

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<v Speaker 9>one one. Moments later, she turned around and the kid

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<v Speaker 9>was standing in the doorway with a knife in his hand.

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<v Speaker 9>Hang up the phone. Punched her a few more times,

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<v Speaker 9>opened a drawer and pulled out a shirt, made him

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<v Speaker 9>go back down to the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 10>I couldn't believe he didn't stab me right there. And then,

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, why did he bring a knife from the

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<v Speaker 10>kitchen upstairs if he didn't intend to use it anyway?

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<v Speaker 10>He just sat down at the kitchen table for what

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<v Speaker 10>seemed like forever. I watched the clock behind him, and

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<v Speaker 10>twenty two minutes went by before he said or did

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<v Speaker 10>a thing. That's when he asked me for my car keys.

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<v Speaker 10>I was afraid he was going to take me somewhere

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<v Speaker 10>with him, so I lied and said my car didn't work.

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<v Speaker 10>It broke down yesterday, and I told him my boyfriend

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<v Speaker 10>was on his way over to spend the night so

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<v Speaker 10>he could take me to work in the morning. A

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<v Speaker 10>car worked, of course, and I didn't have a boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 10>I was shocked because it seemed to work. Seconds later,

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<v Speaker 10>he got up with a knife from our kitchen drawer

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<v Speaker 10>still in hand. He opened the back door and ran off.

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<v Speaker 1>Joellen watches the guy as he disappears into the night.

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<v Speaker 1>She takes a deep breath, then calls nine to one

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<v Speaker 1>to one again.

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<v Speaker 9>I tried to get a good description of the guy,

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<v Speaker 9>Joel and said. When he arrived, he was shirtless and

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<v Speaker 9>he was wearing gray pants and white tennis shoes. But

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<v Speaker 9>he left wearing her grandfather's shirt, an old John Dear

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<v Speaker 9>Green T shirt.

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<v Speaker 6>It was Hugh John.

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<v Speaker 7>Officer.

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<v Speaker 1>Shepherd calls the station with all the details and be

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<v Speaker 1>on the lookout. Bulletin is put out. Officers alert nearby

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<v Speaker 1>residents while others patrol Mount Pine, but it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>the guy has vanished into thin air. About seven hours later.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine one one, what's your emergency?

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<v Speaker 8>This?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, this is Mary Charles.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband is bleeding, is bleeding a lot. What happened? Please?

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<v Speaker 10>Is that help?

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<v Speaker 2>He's lost so much blood.

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<v Speaker 10>We're at two zero the country road four fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Please hurry.

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<v Speaker 1>Police arrive at Mary and Lester Charles farm to a

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<v Speaker 1>blood soaked scene. Forty seven year old Lester Charles is

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<v Speaker 1>lying in the barn bleeding from his neck. Paramedics try

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<v Speaker 1>to stabilize him, but he's lost a lot of blood.

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<v Speaker 1>They quickly get him loaded into the ambulance and speed off. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>he dies on the way to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 6>So we had another homicide.

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Wallace will be the lead on this case. He

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<v Speaker 1>just solved the murder of the loved teacher Mark Billingsley

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<v Speaker 1>nine months before.

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<v Speaker 6>When I arrived at the Charles farm, I remember Missus

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<v Speaker 6>Charles was in consolable, but I knew as hard as

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<v Speaker 6>it was for her to talk, I needed to know

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<v Speaker 6>if her husband said anything about what happened to him

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<v Speaker 6>before paramedics took him away. Anything that could help us

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<v Speaker 6>catch his attacker, shit his killer. The only thing her

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<v Speaker 6>husband said was that he caught a guy sleeping in

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<v Speaker 6>their barn and the guy attacked.

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<v Speaker 11>Him with a knife. I asked if it seemed her

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<v Speaker 11>husband knew the guy. She said no, she didn't think so.

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<v Speaker 11>I asked if she saw him. She said no. It

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<v Speaker 11>was a trail of blood that led out of the

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<v Speaker 11>back of the barn, small droplets, maybe from the knife,

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<v Speaker 11>or maybe the assailant was cut too, But just yards

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<v Speaker 11>away from the barn, the trail of blood seemed to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Wallace says, they call in the county's canine unit.

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<v Speaker 1>The dog does pick up a scent, but then loses

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<v Speaker 1>it about a mile away. Maybe the guy got into

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<v Speaker 1>a car and the dog lost the scent. With very

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<v Speaker 1>few leads, Detective Wallace says, he goes back to the station,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving officers and technicians to process the scene. But back

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<v Speaker 1>at the station, he learned something that may possibly changed

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<v Speaker 1>the course of his investigation.

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<v Speaker 6>When I heard what I heard, my jaw dropped to

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<v Speaker 6>the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Tom Wallace is working the homicide of Lester Charles.

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<v Speaker 1>He was killed in his own barn by some unknown assailant.

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<v Speaker 1>Although he's at the very beginning of investigating the case,

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Wallace is stumped until some information comes into the

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<v Speaker 1>station that points him in a certain direction.

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<v Speaker 6>It came across the wire that Stephen Hartford was on

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<v Speaker 6>the run.

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<v Speaker 1>You might remember Stephen Hartford from episode five. He was

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years old when he abducted and brutally killed thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old Victoria Brown. At this point, he's seventeen and

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<v Speaker 1>serving life without parole for that murder.

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<v Speaker 6>So, yeah, I learned that Punk escaped prison the day before,

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<v Speaker 6>Thinking was he the guy who broke into Joe Ellens

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<v Speaker 6>and later was sleeping in Lester Charles's barn, I called

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<v Speaker 6>the reporting authorities, needing to learn more. Okay, now I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just going to read from my notes here. While Stephen

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<v Speaker 6>Hartford was being transferred to another prison, he and another

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<v Speaker 6>inmate overpowered the driver and then fled. Now, the authorities

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<v Speaker 6>told me they didn't contact our jurisdiction because they were

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<v Speaker 6>two hundred miles away. They caught the other escaped inmate,

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<v Speaker 6>and they felt confident they would find Hartford before he

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<v Speaker 6>got very far. But when they learned he carjacked someone,

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<v Speaker 6>they contacted us, thinking he could be headed back to

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<v Speaker 6>the area. I knew I had to let Detective Thompson

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<v Speaker 6>know right away for many reasons, one of which she

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<v Speaker 6>could be in danger.

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<v Speaker 1>Marcia Thompson is the detective who worked the Victoria Brown

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<v Speaker 1>murder and helped put Stephen Hartford behind bars. Talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this particular case is hard for her.

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<v Speaker 4>I almost fell over when I heard the news. How

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<v Speaker 4>in the world was this kid able to escape? So

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<v Speaker 4>there was no way I wasn't going to work the

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<v Speaker 4>case with Wallace. I wanted that psychopath Hertford back in prison,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was going to put him there a second time.

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<v Speaker 4>I just hoped he didn't hurt or kill anyone else

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<v Speaker 4>before we could find him.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing the detectives do is take Stephen Hartford's

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<v Speaker 1>mugshot to Joellen McBride. They want to see if he's

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<v Speaker 1>the kid who broke into her grandparents' house.

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<v Speaker 6>Joellen had just gotten back from the hospital and was

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<v Speaker 6>pretty tired, if I remember correctly, but we showed her

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<v Speaker 6>a six a lineup of six photos. It didn't take

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<v Speaker 6>her but a second to point out Hartford.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it was number four, without a doubt, I remember clearly.

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<v Speaker 10>He was number four.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that was all we needed. Stephen Hartford was back

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<v Speaker 4>in town. We didn't have confirmation he killed Lester Charles

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<v Speaker 4>just yet, but my gut was telling me it was him.

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<v Speaker 4>We called in the counties helicopters, the K nine units,

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<v Speaker 4>and state police to assist. Officers also went door to

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<v Speaker 4>door and asked if they could search the barns and

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<v Speaker 4>sheds on people's properties. There was always a chance that

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<v Speaker 4>Hartford stole a car and was no longer in the area,

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<v Speaker 4>but so far no one else reported any missing cars

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<v Speaker 4>or carjackings.

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<v Speaker 6>We had to find him.

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<v Speaker 4>An official manhunt was underway.

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<v Speaker 6>God having to tell Dorothy Brown and her son Donnie

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<v Speaker 6>that her little girl, Victoria's killer was on the loose,

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<v Speaker 6>that was awful. We assured them they would have twenty

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<v Speaker 6>four hour surveillance and protection on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Later that afternoon, police call a press conference.

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<v Speaker 4>We've received word that seventeen year old Stephen Hartford escaped

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<v Speaker 4>while being transported to court and he's made his way

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<v Speaker 4>back to Mount Pine. Let me say this loud and clear,

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen Hartford is armed and dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents, my friends, and I are terrified. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>puts a weapon in every room like baseball, bats and knives,

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<v Speaker 1>preparing himself in case that maniac comes to our house.

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<v Speaker 1>And my parents won't even let me go out. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to stay home where they can make sure I'm safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Tatiana and I talk about it on the phone for hours.

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<v Speaker 5>We were trying to imagine where he was hiding, who

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<v Speaker 5>he wanted to hurt, was he trying to go home?

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<v Speaker 5>Was his dad helping him or hiding him?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe we're now in a lockdown situation because

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<v Speaker 1>of a madman? A known murderer is on the loose

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<v Speaker 1>in Mount Pine.

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<v Speaker 6>I opened my old files on Stephen Hartford and it's

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<v Speaker 6>more digging.

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Wallace learns Frank Hartford, Stephen's dad, left Mount Pine

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<v Speaker 1>shortly after his son went to prison.

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<v Speaker 6>So looks like Frank Hartford closer to the prison so

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<v Speaker 6>he could visit Stephen more often. I asked some of

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<v Speaker 6>the guys to go to his house and interview him.

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<v Speaker 6>Frank was home, but not helpful. He said he hadn't

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<v Speaker 6>seen or heard from his son, and he probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>help law enforcement even if he did.

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<v Speaker 4>Chereming So by the end of the day I started

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<v Speaker 4>thinking maybe Hartford left Mount Pine. Why would he hang

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<v Speaker 4>around here when he had to know that everyone was

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<v Speaker 4>looking for The search team was coming up with nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>As the hours kicked by, we were all on edge

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<v Speaker 4>and going crazy waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Early Sunday morning, a tipster calls nine one one from

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<v Speaker 1>a payphone at the gas station on the corner of

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<v Speaker 1>Monroe and Sherman. He claims he saw that kid who

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<v Speaker 1>escaped from the prison. Several police cars arrive at the

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<v Speaker 1>gas station moments later and locate the nine one one caller.

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<v Speaker 1>He points to the guy sitting on a bench outside

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<v Speaker 1>the cafe next to the gas station, The guy he

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<v Speaker 1>believes is Stephen Hartford, but his officers approached the guy

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<v Speaker 1>they immediately see he looks nothing like Hartford.

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<v Speaker 6>We got maybe twenty eight calls like this since the

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<v Speaker 6>press conference. The nine one one call center was flooded

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<v Speaker 6>with tips, but none of them, not one of them

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<v Speaker 6>panned out normally where I'm not trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 6>who committed a crime. This time, we knew exactly who

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<v Speaker 6>we were looking for. We just couldn't find him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we needed him to mess up sooner rather than later,

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<v Speaker 4>because the town was beyond on edge, and rightfully so

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<v Speaker 4>He was a violent predator with no regard or remorse

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<v Speaker 4>for it anything he did or anyone he hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine. What's your emergency.

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<v Speaker 5>He's here, he won't let me.

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<v Speaker 6>He's holding me.

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<v Speaker 1>A nine to one one call has just come in

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<v Speaker 1>from a woman sounding like she's being held hostage.

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<v Speaker 6>I felt in my gut it was Stephen Hartford the

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<v Speaker 6>woman was calling about. So we got ourselves poised and

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<v Speaker 6>ready to respond, but it.

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<v Speaker 4>Shit scenario again. We didn't get an address before the

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<v Speaker 4>call got cut off. We had to hope and pray

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<v Speaker 4>she called back. Not that officers weren't out trying to

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<v Speaker 4>find her or him, because they were, but we had

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<v Speaker 4>nothing to go on to find this caller.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen long hours later, around eleven pm.

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<v Speaker 3>It was honestly the craziest thing in all my ears

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<v Speaker 3>then or since.

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<v Speaker 1>Officer Charles Dixon has five years on the job back

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty seven. He works with the canine unit

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<v Speaker 1>and still has his best canine, Copper by his side.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the German shepherd that helped find Victoria Brown's body

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<v Speaker 1>back in February of nineteen eighty six. Today, Officer Dixon

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<v Speaker 1>is retired and lives in San Antonio where he fosters dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>I will never forget this. I'm at the gas station

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<v Speaker 3>on the edge of town, fueling up my cruiser and

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<v Speaker 3>getting coffee. Copper was with me, probably open. I'd give

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<v Speaker 3>him a tree or seven, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>I see this woman running towards me. She's barefoot, bleeding, hysterical,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was pointing behind her.

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<v Speaker 1>The woman was Chris Newman, back in nineteen eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>She was fifty two years old. She has since passed away,

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<v Speaker 1>but her bravery that day is the stuff of legends.

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<v Speaker 3>She was freaking out, said the.

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<v Speaker 10>Guy who escaped from prison.

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<v Speaker 8>He's in my house.

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<v Speaker 3>I immediately called in medical help for gave dispatcher address

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<v Speaker 3>on County.

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<v Speaker 6>Road to twelve detectives.

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson and Wallace get the call in high tail it

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<v Speaker 1>too Chris Newman's house.

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<v Speaker 3>While paramedics retreating Miss Newman, I got some more information

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<v Speaker 3>fro him. I did refresh my memory on some of

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<v Speaker 3>the details, so here they are.

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<v Speaker 8>I'd fallen asleep watching TV in the living room, and

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<v Speaker 8>the next thing I knew, I heard the sound of

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<v Speaker 8>glass breaking. I ran to the kitchen and grabbed a knife,

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<v Speaker 8>but before I knew it. This kid was in my house.

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<v Speaker 8>He rushed me and punched me and the face and chest,

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<v Speaker 8>and I fell to the ground, dropping the knife. He

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<v Speaker 8>picked it up and said he would stab me if

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<v Speaker 8>I tried anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, what happened next was absolutely bizarre.

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<v Speaker 8>He said he was hungry and told me to make

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<v Speaker 8>him some food. So I made him a grilled cheese sandwich,

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<v Speaker 8>which she scarfed down. He sat quiet for a while,

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<v Speaker 8>then he paced.

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<v Speaker 2>He sat, he paced.

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<v Speaker 8>He told me to make him some more food, so

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<v Speaker 8>I made him a pork chop.

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<v Speaker 3>Hours and hours went by, him sitting and pacing and

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<v Speaker 3>barely speaking, all the while grasping her knife tightly in

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<v Speaker 3>his hand. Hiss Newman said she tried to talk to him,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, try and keep him coming, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk.

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<v Speaker 6>She said.

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<v Speaker 3>They watched some TV twenty one Jump Street and then

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<v Speaker 3>married with children. Then, in a moment of brilliance, Ms.

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<v Speaker 3>Newman suggested he'd take a shower. She said he might

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<v Speaker 3>feel better, and unbelievably agreed. She got him a towel

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<v Speaker 3>and a washcloth. She said, you waited for him to

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<v Speaker 3>get in.

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<v Speaker 8>And then I ran out the door and ran until

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<v Speaker 8>I found someone at the gas station.

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<v Speaker 3>She ran out the door and ran until she found

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<v Speaker 3>me at the gas station. She was one tough and

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<v Speaker 3>smart lady. For fifteen hours, she outsmart at him and

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<v Speaker 3>kept herself alive.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Pine police surround the small white farmhouse. County and

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<v Speaker 1>State police arrived moments later.

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<v Speaker 4>I had this one moment looking around at all the

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<v Speaker 4>law enforcement that were there, thinking, this dude is seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>years old. How in the world did all of this happen.

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<v Speaker 6>So a sergeant got on the megaphone and started talking

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<v Speaker 6>to Stephen Hartford, trying to get him to come outside

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<v Speaker 6>on his own, saying it was going to be a

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<v Speaker 6>lot worse for him if we had to go inside

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<v Speaker 6>and get him. You know, the whole nine yards that

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<v Speaker 6>Hartford wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Complying, waited out for two hours. Then they start becoming

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<v Speaker 1>concerned Stephen Hartford has killed himself, so they decide to

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<v Speaker 1>go inside. In Chris Newman's bedroom, they find Stephen Hartford

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<v Speaker 1>asleep asleep.

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<v Speaker 6>He was asleep, unbelievable. So we arrested him without incident,

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<v Speaker 6>and as I was walking him outside, putting him in

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<v Speaker 6>the back of a patrol car, he said the words

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<v Speaker 6>I will never forget. He said, I should have killed

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<v Speaker 6>that bitch when I had the chance.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I never thought I was going to have

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with Stephen Hartford again.

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<v Speaker 6>Boy was I wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>And it wouldn't end.

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<v Speaker 9>With his arrest.

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<v Speaker 4>He was charged with breaking into Joellen McBride's grandparents' house

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<v Speaker 4>and assaulting her, murdering Lester Charles because we were able

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<v Speaker 4>to match his blood type to blood in the barn,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was charged with breaking into Chris Newman's house

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<v Speaker 4>and assaulting her, not to mention all the charges related

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<v Speaker 4>to assaulting the officers when he escaped and evaded authorities

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<v Speaker 4>for days.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Hartford is eventually found guilty of all charges and

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced to life plus one hundred and seventy five years. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>he's never getting out unless, of course, he pulls off

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<v Speaker 1>another escape.

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<v Speaker 5>Two days after Stephen Hartford was caught, I left for college.

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<v Speaker 5>I should have been through the roof ecstatic, but there

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<v Speaker 5>was just this dark cloud hanging over me, over us.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends and I were just so rocked by all

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<v Speaker 1>the deaths that happened during our high school years. All we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted was for it to be over, even if we

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<v Speaker 1>were moving away. We didn't want it to continue, not

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<v Speaker 1>for us and not for those we left behind.

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<v Speaker 7>We'd be able to move away and move on for

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<v Speaker 7>a little while, but the piece it wouldn't last forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Next time on The Murder Years, a woman's.

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<v Speaker 4>Body has been found in the woods behind Mount Pine

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<v Speaker 4>Community College.

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<v Speaker 1>After thirty years of peace, Mount Pine is under attack

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<v Speaker 1>once again.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm at the scene of yet another murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Will it ever end? The Murder Years is a production

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<v Speaker 1>of AYR Media and iHeartMedia. Executive producer Elisa Rosen for

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<v Speaker 1>AYR Media co Executive producer Paulina Williams. Written by Leah Rothman,

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<v Speaker 1>directed by Michael Selditch. Original concept developed in partnership with Anne,

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret Johns and Greg Spring. Casting by Eisenberg Beans Casting

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Associate producer Eric Newman, Associate producer Jill Pushesnik. Editing

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<v Speaker 1>and sound design by Tristan Bankston, mastering by Cameron Taggie,

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<v Speaker 1>Audio engineering by Matt Jacobson, Studio engineering by Jay Brannan,

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<v Speaker 1>Music by Nathan Bankston. Legal counsel for a y R

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<v Speaker 1>Media Gianni Douglas. Executive producer for iHeartMedia, Maya Howard Performances

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode by Gabrielle Carteris as Nancy Clark, Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>Deadman as Tatiana, or La Cassidy as Melanie, Maricilda Garcia

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<v Speaker 1>as Carla Menanine Day as Stephen Hartford beau Kine as

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<v Speaker 1>Officer Shepherd, Carolyn Jania as nine to one one caller,

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<v Speaker 1>Tamo Adams as young Joe Ellen McBride, Desiree Rodriguez is

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<v Speaker 1>nine one one operator, Tu d Rouch as Detective Thompson

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<v Speaker 1>h Richard Greene as Detective Wallace, Jesse Hendrix as Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Ellen McBride, Jesse Hendrix as Lauren Collins, Justin Marriconda as

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<v Speaker 1>Pool intercom announcer John Ralston Craig as DJ Johnny Jolt,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Virtue as Officer Dixon, Eudonna Daniels as Reporter Number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Additional voices by Sarah Zuk and Alex Salem