1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: joining us. We are so excited to be back today. 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I miss you, Kathy. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: I can't wait. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: We're going to be together soon. 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: I know it has been so long since we've caught up. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: Let's start first. You just got back from Saint Martin again. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: How how was it? 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: It was fabulous. Actually, my girlfriend and her husband joined us, 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: so that was a lot of fun. We were I 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: feel like you need a vacation from a vacation. You know, 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: when you have guests, you just take them everywhere. 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: It's like, so I wouldn't I wouldn't know about a 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: vacation from a vacation. 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. 16 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: Everybody has been saying that you and I on social media, 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: that we're not friends anymore, that where have I been? 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Where have you been? Why aren't we together? Here's the thing. 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: I have been busy out of town. Susan has been 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: busy out of town. We are getting ready to take 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: a two week cruise. You're going to see more of 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: us on social media than you ever wanted. You know, 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: when they say be careful what you ask for? 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: Yes, right? I have been trying to answer so many fans, 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: what did you do dump Kathy for your boyfriend? I'm like, 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: are you serious right now? And I'm trying to answer them. 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: We will be together soon. Just stay tuned. If you 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: listen to our podcast, you will You're sure there's no 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: divorce happening here. Kathy and I will be going to Istanbul, 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: Turkey as well as the Greek Islands. 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Yep, You're going to see more of us on social 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: media than you ever wanted to, so there is no 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: feud here. 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: There's nothing. I love for the pieces. 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: And two we just can't wait to get on our cruise. 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely. And today, of course we're going to be answering 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: more of our fan questions. Hopefully one of them will 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: be about that. Kathy, And make sure you're submitting because 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: we love reading them. We love talking to you, we 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: love sharing our advice, and you know how to do it. 41 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour and go ahead and submit, 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: because that's what we're here for. 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: That's right. Send us everything we want to hear from you. 44 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: Your questions, your updates, your comments, We want to hear 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: all of it. You also can dm us on Instagram 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: at Bachelor Happy Hour. 47 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: You sure can do. Okay, you ready, time to get 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: into the episode. Let's start with the question of the day. Oh, 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: here we go, Here we go. What are your thoughts 50 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: on plastic surgery for people that are younger, example eighteen 51 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: to twenty one? What advice would you give to young 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: women that are considering some form of work? 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I got the answer on this one. 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: I dont remind they're young. 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: That's my point. 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: I think, unless you know, I have a lot of 57 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: friends who had we call them nose jobs, deviated sept 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: when they were in high school. And you know, that's 59 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: one thing I think. But if you're talking about plastic surgery, 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: breast enhancement, or even frankly, tattoos and stuff, once you 61 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: do that stuff. 62 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: It's not plastic surgery. 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: Well, okay, it's I mean, all right, so let's just 64 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: focus on that. But if you have breast enhancement or 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, something to change permanently, change your face or 66 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: your body before you really have time to settle in 67 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: to your own body, I think it's a mistake. 68 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: What about Kathy, what came to mind for me? Injections, 69 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: boat toks, things like this. 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: I think it's too young. 71 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: I think twenty one I can't imagine you haven't rinkles 72 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: number one. 73 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: Well, I think I had a few. No, But here's 74 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: the thing. 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Your your face is changing, your your You're not fully developed. 76 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean truly, I think like I've had friends who 77 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: had breast reduction done as teenagers. I mean that I 78 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: think is something different. But in terms of having injections, 79 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: which again is not plastic surgery, but you know, having 80 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: your eyes done, or your lips filled, or breast in hand, 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine it at that age. 82 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: Well, I know of people that are twenty one years 83 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: old and their breast, like you said, a reduction, if 84 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: that's necessary then by all means yeah. And if you 85 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: were so flat chested and you wanted a little something 86 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: at twenty one years old, you're able to make up 87 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: your own mind. I don't have a problem with it. 88 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: I do, however, have a problem with wanting a facelift 89 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: or something twenty yeah. 90 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think the problem here is, 91 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: like many things, is the overflow of social media. People 92 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: girls and young women look at themselves and they compare 93 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: themselves to air brushing, to you know, things that just 94 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: aren't reality, and they and they want that and I 95 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: think that's a mistake. 96 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: Speaking of air brushing, Kathy, I wish I knew how 97 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: to do it, because I've looked really good these crospy 98 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: and do you know people on social media and I'm 99 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: talking to you guys out there that write these comments 100 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: when I'm taking a selfie or something out in the sun. 101 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: My crow speed are pretty prominent. And yes I get botox, 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: but it's not a miracle. Why are you so criticizing? 103 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean, why do you say such negative things? I 104 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: am human, I'm sixty eight years old, I have crowsfeed. 105 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: I think you look beautiful, I think, but I think 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's indemnic. Social media has given 107 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: everyone a platform to say and do whatever they want. 108 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: So that's half of the problem. People have no compunction. 109 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: They just think they can say in whatever they want. 110 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: That's the first problem. But I think the bigger issue 111 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: is young people are not They don't know what's real anymore. 112 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: You know. 113 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: They see these models on social media that have had 114 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: literally airbrushing, the tricks that you can do with photography now, 115 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: they're not real. So when I want to see real, well, 116 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: but the problem is some of these young women I 117 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: think think that that is real when it really is. 118 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, do you remember when we were growing up, so 119 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: many times when you were real Yeah, Twiggy, everybody had 120 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: to be bone thin, which fortunately I was blessed because 121 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: I used to have to drink protein drinks the game 122 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: weight I was bone. 123 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: I never had that problem. 124 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: I had boobs, I mean, they weren't in style then 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: and I had them right, But I wasn't about to 126 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: go to the plastic surgeon at twenty one years old. 127 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: No. I mean I my daughter, who now is you know, 128 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: mother and well into her thirties. I don't think that 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: she ever thought about it, commented on it. Like I said, 130 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: I had friends growing up who didn't like their noses, 131 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: that they had a big bum. 132 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: And I don't understand the those things if you're born 133 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: with this thing, all mean, I just. 134 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: Think, you know whatever. 135 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I just think that I wish young women. My message 136 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: to young women today is enjoy the body you have. 137 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: If you breathe and you're healthy and you're strong, that 138 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: is so much more important. I mean, it's I think 139 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: it sometimes falls on deaf ears, but I just think 140 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: having a healthy body that supports you or so much 141 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: more important. 142 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: Or wait till the eyes are hooded and then by 143 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: all means fix them. At twenty one years old, you 144 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: don't have hoo. 145 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: I was just going to say, did you have? 146 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean I was very overweight at twenty one and 147 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: I also had big boobs, but I didn't get them 148 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: reduced until after I had my three. 149 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: Kids, after kids, after I had my kids. 150 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: But you know what I think. 151 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: I think, young ladies, if you're listening, give yourself a 152 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: chance to fall in love with the person you were 153 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: born to be instead of trying to change yourself. 154 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: Especially in today's world, everything is accepted big people, skinny people. 155 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: I mean, does it matter big butts are in you 156 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: know what I mean, everything goes so be okay with 157 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: who you are. But I am one with plastic surgery 158 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: when it's time, when you need it. 159 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I have had a few things done myself, 160 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: and you know, people say to me all the time, 161 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: why do you admit to it? 162 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: And you know what I say, why not? 163 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: I have people say to me, I thought you had 164 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: work done. Look at your face. I'm like, are you serious? 165 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: You know what says and you don't. Let don't let 166 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: them get to you. Yes, be the nice person you are. 167 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: It'll all turn out, all right. 168 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: We're going to move into our fan question. 169 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: Oh I love this part. 170 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 3: Okay, I love it. All right, I'm going to start 171 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: us off here we go. 172 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: All right, Hi, ladies, I love your podcast, and I 173 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: was really hoping to get your advice. My daughter is 174 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: thirteen years old, and it's already so worried about her appearance. 175 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: I expected this, as the tween years are really tough, 176 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: and I figured she'd have a similar struggle as we 177 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: all do, carving out who we are at such a 178 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: young age. However, it's way worse than I thought. She's 179 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: asking me for retinoal creams. She recently spent all her 180 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: babysitting money on skincare products for anti aging. 181 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,359 Speaker 3: It's nuts. 182 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Thankfully, she listened to me about the products and now 183 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: asked me before buying so they don't hurt her face. 184 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: But I know that's just the tip of the iceberg. 185 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: I've tried to be as involved as I can be 186 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to what she consumes online, but I 187 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: know this is something going on with all of her friends. 188 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: I've talked to the other parents and we're all at 189 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: a loss on what to do to get these girls 190 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: to stop worried about anti aging, how they look, having 191 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: perfect skin, et cetera. I want to know what you 192 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: would say to her if you were in my shoes, 193 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: so I can see if I'm seen anything when I 194 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: talk to her. 195 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: Thanks, ladies, you know it's. 196 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: Funny I could relate. My granddaughter will be thirteen this year, 197 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: and for Christmas, she wanted products for her face. I 198 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: sat her down and said, don't think you have to 199 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 2: buy everything that you see. Here's the deal. Always use 200 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: a moisturizer, Always use an I cream that you can 201 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: do now. You don't need retinols. And she doesn't have 202 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: acne or anything like that. If the child had acne, 203 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: then yes, you address it with certain cres. 204 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: Well, So you and I are kind of on the 205 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: same patrio. What I would do in answer to your 206 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: question is I would take her to a place like, 207 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, a store, a drug store or so for 208 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: something like that, and I would say using clean products 209 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: like I would try to educate her on clean things 210 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: and so clean products so that she's not worried about 211 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: retinol and explain to her that that's something for people 212 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: of wrinkles. And I would talk to her this is 213 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: a great opportunity to talk about the evils of social 214 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: media and that her face is beautiful. But at the 215 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: same time, you're never too young to teach to learn 216 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: about good healthcare. So using some natural cleaners and some 217 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: natural stringents and whatever products that is appropriate for a teenager. 218 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: So that's what I would do. 219 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: I would take care of Brittany to the clinic counter. 220 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: It was the least expensive and it was a clean product, 221 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: and let that lady teach her rite what it is. 222 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: And she was young and she got it. 223 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: I think, I think it's I think if you acknowledge 224 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: that young girls today are very interested in physical appearance, 225 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: and maybe too much so, but. 226 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: And taking care of them, and that's right. 227 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: Focus on healthy skincare as opposed to changing the appearance 228 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: if you will, So. 229 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: I wash your face, that's important. 230 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: Teach those kinds of things. 231 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: And if she wants to use a light lipstick or something, 232 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: the minute you say no, yeah, like gloss, the minute 233 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: you say no, it's the forbidden fruits. 234 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 2: And social media shows us everything. 235 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: But Susan, don't they. I mean, I don't. 236 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: My daughter's older now, but I know that they make 237 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: lots of clean products for for young girls today. Focus 238 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: on that and don't worry about I mean retinal. 239 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: You know, tell her it's a prescription. 240 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: Heard retinal on the internet. I'm sure you know. 241 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: And I would I think, of course, you know, I 242 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: always wanted to make a joke. I mean, I have 243 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: to be honest when I read this anti aging, to this, 244 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: to this listener. I mean at thirteen, I would, I 245 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: kind of would have to make a joke about it 246 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: with my daughter and say, anti aging. If you get 247 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: any younger, you'll be back in my stomach. You know 248 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: how much younger do you want to be. 249 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: I don't think I was worried about skincare thy. Times 250 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: have changed, though time. 251 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: So I did. 252 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: I remember at thirteen and when I started my period, 253 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: I got the. 254 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: First bits of God. 255 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, every month, every month, that was a curse. 256 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: And now look at us filled with wrinkles. But we 257 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: wish you all good luck. 258 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: We talk to her, educate her in the way that 259 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: she should be, and retinals will happen in her life. 260 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: Just don't rush it. 261 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what else, I just had one 262 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: more thought. You know what else you. 263 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: Could do for a treat for her birthday? Maybe give 264 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: her a facial where a third, you know, the facialists 265 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: could talk to her about skincare and maybe buy her 266 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: a couple of products there that are clean products. I 267 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: think sometimes if they have something to focus on and 268 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: feel like they're making a difference in their face, they 269 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: won't be saying, you know, I want. 270 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: A new kid cleansing cream cream. 271 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all you need. 272 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: Don't you wish those days for back for us, Susan, 273 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: don't My cupboards are for flowing. 274 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: And sunscreen? Teach her about sunscreen. Yeah, I waited half 275 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: my life, well three quarters of my life, and I 276 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: am faithful. 277 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: Wait, wait, Susan, little late, Susan, you had to go there, 278 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: didn't you. 279 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: Susan. 280 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Mike was in Saint Martin and just got back and 281 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: I said to her, your face, Susan, put sunscreen on. 282 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: She goes, I put it on in the morning. 283 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: Listen, everyone out there, sunscreen needs to be reapplied every 284 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: hour to two hours. You cannot put it on in. 285 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: The morning, back on after I get out of the water. 286 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's great if you're supposed to just disappear 287 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: in an hour. Yeah, it just absorbs into your skin. 288 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not effective. So my PSA for the 289 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: day is use reapply your sunscreen. 290 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: Reapply, re apply. Alright, moving on, thanks for writing in Okay, 291 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: next one. Hi, ladies, I'm worried about my roommate and 292 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: I need help on how to talk to her. We're 293 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: both in college and are very lucky to say that 294 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: our families are blessed. My roommate, let's call her Kelly, 295 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: and I support support it by our parents. So any 296 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: money we make from jobs and internships is solely our 297 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: fun money. Here's the problem. I noticed recently that Kelly 298 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: has been putting her money in a facelift fun Oh well, buddy, 299 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: I have an envelope with that a facelift. We're twenty. 300 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: She's gotten things like lip filler or chin filler in 301 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: the past, and I've never thought much of it. I've 302 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: never been the type to have a strong opinion on 303 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: work plastic surgery wise, especially when it comes to other people. 304 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: That's not my business, smart girl, But Kelly is one 305 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: of my closest friends and I owe it to her 306 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: to look out for her when I see something that 307 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: worries me. But how do I bring this up to her? 308 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: I talked to my mom, and she told me it 309 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: would probably be really hard for her to find someone 310 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: willing to give a twenty year old a facelift. But 311 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: I want to know why she even feels the need 312 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: to get one. That's where the problem is for me. 313 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: What do you think? Thank you so much? May I 314 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: put my two cents in here? Really quick? Think about 315 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: what you're telling us. She has a fun facelift. It's 316 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: going to take her from twenty to fifty to save 317 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: enough money, so let that fun be. It doesn't mean 318 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: she's going to use it right now. 319 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: Well, I agree with that, but I think the bigger 320 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: issue here. I mean, yes, technically your correct sings, yes, 321 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: but the fact that a twenty year old is not 322 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: saving for a fancy handbag or a trip to Paris 323 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: to go up the Eiffel Tower, but instead it's saving 324 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: for a facelift is cause for concern. So and by 325 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: the way, uh, you can always find a doctor willing 326 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: to do anything. 327 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: So she's already had lip filler. 328 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: And I think you know you have to talk to 329 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: your friend kind of the way Susan and I are 330 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: talking on this podcast. You have to talk to your 331 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: friend about the evils. If you will of social media 332 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: and how what you see a lot of times it's 333 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: airbrushed and people don't really look like that, and they 334 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: have makeup artists who know how to make them look 335 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: twenty years younger. 336 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: Just have the conversation with her. 337 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm guessing this girl just wild 338 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: guests here, has some self esteem issues and she you know, 339 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: doesn't like her eyes or it doesn't like her nose 340 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: and thinks that if she could change it, her life 341 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: would magically be different. 342 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: And you know what, it isn't. 343 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: As well as they don't realize it is not a miracle. 344 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: When we go under the knife, we're thinking we're going 345 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: to come out. It's not true. It's a little tweak, 346 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 2: it's a little this, and it does look a little better, 347 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: especially at our age, but it's not the end all. 348 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 2: It's not like you were twenty again. 349 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: But see, that's what I'm saying. I don't think. I 350 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: don't think this is about a tweak or anything else. 351 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: I think this girl, I don't know because we don't 352 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: have enough information here, but I'm guessing she I'm making 353 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: it up now. She does her eyes are too close 354 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: together or too far apart. Her nose is too big 355 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: or too small, her chin sticks out too much or 356 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: not enough. 357 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: Her ships are too thin. 358 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying her lips are too thin. 359 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: Whatever it is, she's not happy with herself, and that 360 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: is a bigger issue. Then can she save enough for 361 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: a facelift? I think the bigger issue here is learning 362 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: to accept the person she is and love herself. 363 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: Because I agree, I agree, but I still don't think 364 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: anything's wrong with having a fun that you're going to save. 365 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: It takes a long time to save her something like that. 366 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: I totally disagree. I think there is something wrong with it. 367 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: A young girl who starts a facelift fund at twenty 368 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: years old, I think there's something else going on. And 369 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: you're saying that Susan at sixty eight, that you wished 370 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: you had. 371 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: I had these envelopes all my life, new shoes, like 372 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: I would put money aside for things that I knew 373 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: I was gonna want, or whether that's. 374 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: Shoes, that's what. 375 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, now we're talking a new outfit, shoes, a fancy 376 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: designer handbag, not a facelift to twenty years old. If 377 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: you did you really have a facelift envelope at twenty. 378 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: Uh, no, but I had a separate envelope first cousinic. Yeah, 379 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: but that's different when it was time. Yeah. 380 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think I think you're a great 381 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: friend who you don't have your name here, but I 382 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: think you should try to talk to Kelly, your roommate, 383 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: and get her to really look examine why she wants 384 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: a facelift. 385 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: Just save it for ask her. I see you have 386 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: this facelift fund. Do you plan on doing that soon 387 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: or you just prep piring for the future when you're 388 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: fifteen or sixty. 389 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you could talk your roommate 390 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: into giving up the fund and she'd like to share 391 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: it with Susan and me, we could we could put 392 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: that money to you right now. All right, we are 393 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: gonna move into a segment that we call rapid fire advice. 394 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: It's confidence and it's tips and tricks. So instead of 395 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: a game, that's what we're gonna do, all things confidence appearance. 396 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna switch off reading the prompts. We're gonna both 397 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: give our advice and here we go. Give us your tips, 398 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: tricks and advice on your ray. 399 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: Susan, yes, make up? 400 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: What are your go to beauty hacks that you've always. 401 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: Used forever in a day, my eyeliner, pencil and mascara 402 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: two biggest things. 403 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: Oh that's so funny. 404 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: Okay, mind that I just actually recently learned because makeup 405 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: has changed so much recently. 406 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: I got gifted. 407 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: A blush that doubles as a lipstick shadow too. Yeah, 408 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: so that is my hack. If you're traveling the you know, 409 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: the fewer products you can take, the better. And so 410 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: I love a good crayon stick that is a blush, 411 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: a lipstick, and an eyeshadow. 412 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: Go for it. 413 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Kathy, you're not going to like this one. How 414 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: do you find what clothes work best for you? 415 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: I call Susan. 416 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 2: No, actually, I have to tell you from people. 417 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I took an extended vacation here 418 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: and I went shopping to buy clothes, and I really 419 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: found out after trying on a. 420 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: Million things, I now have learned. 421 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: And so here's my tip to anyone who's not sure 422 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: what looks good on them. Because Susan it was a chopoholic. 423 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: She knows what she likes and she goes and buy. 424 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 425 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: I have learned how to shop, and here's what I've learned. 426 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: Try on a style that you don't think. For example, 427 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't look good in things that have a built 428 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: in waist because I don't have a wist. But I've 429 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: tried enough things on that now I know a straight 430 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: silhouette looks best on me. I can wear a short dress, 431 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: I can wear a MIDI I can wear a long. 432 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: My arms are decent, so I can go strapless. It 433 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: takes trying on, right, would you agree? 434 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: How do you find out? That's how you find out? Yeah, 435 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: and try it on and then and take a picture 436 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: of yourself. 437 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then stay away. 438 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: Then, Like when I went shopping, I was in a 439 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: department store and this shopper was helping me buy stuff, 440 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: and she kept bringing out dresses that had a waist, 441 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: and I said, Nope, they don't look good on me. 442 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: And so I realized that now I know, I don't 443 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: have to waste time trying on stuff that already know 444 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: it's not going to look good on me. All right, 445 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: here's the next one, overcoming insecurities. What's something you were 446 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: insecure about when you were young and how did you 447 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: overcome it? 448 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I hate given that. 449 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: They were talking about plastic surgery, I was really insecure 450 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: about my overly big boobs and how to overcome it. 451 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: When after I had three children i was forty years old, 452 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: I had them taken down to size. 453 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm insecure when I was young. I can't put anything 454 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: out not being the best at something which carried my 455 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: whole life, like when I was a cheerleader or a 456 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: gymnast or anything. Of being able to be myself in 457 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: front of guys when you're hanging out, you know, things 458 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: like that. 459 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think my best advice to anyone who has insecurities, 460 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: especially when you're in those teenage years going off to college, 461 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: all those those first. 462 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: When you're younger. 463 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: I try to remember, and I told my kids this, 464 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: everyone's feeling the way you are when you walk on 465 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: For example, when you walk on campus the first year 466 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: as a freshman, you're scared to death. Guess what everyone 467 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: else is feeling insecure is scared, So try to remember 468 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: you're not in it alone. You know, if you're not 469 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: the best, whatever, guess what somebody else is thinking the 470 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: same thing. 471 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 3: They're not the best. So just just fake it till 472 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: you make it. 473 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: Hey, that's my motto. The awkwardness of puberty. How did 474 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: you handle puberty? When you went through it and when 475 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: your kids went through it. Oh man, oh, Mandy. I 476 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: might remember I was the only one that didn't have 477 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 2: a hair under my arm or my. 478 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: So I for me was a little different. I had 479 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: that were I had four sisters. I was the youngest 480 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: of the girls. 481 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: Yes, that was easier for you, well and yes and no. 482 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: I was watching them and then so as it happened 483 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: to me, I sort of had a little view into 484 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: the future. But I remember, gosh, starting my period, I 485 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: thought that was, you know, the best thing since sliced bread, 486 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: until I realized what it meant. But I think when 487 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: my kids went through it, I remember so my parents. 488 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: I grew up in a generation where people didn't talk 489 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: about puberty. I did with my kids, did you most definitely? 490 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 491 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: So I talked to them about the changes that were 492 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: going to happen. And I don't think it's ever enough. 493 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: I think sometimes kids don't want to hear it from 494 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: their parents. They want to hear it from their friends, 495 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: which is unfortunate because you get, you know, some bad 496 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: advice that way. 497 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: But I have to know, did you ever come home? Well, 498 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: you had older siblings, but mommy, where did the babies 499 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: come out. My mother used to say, down there, Kathy, 500 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: I thought you booped them out for half my life? 501 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 502 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: That's all she would say. 503 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: Down there. 504 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: Now, my children they do everything. I spelled everything. 505 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: Oh so did I. 506 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: And we didn't use silly little words like you know, pep, 507 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: and we said penis vagina. 508 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: We used the right words. 509 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: I can remember my my we called it a period, 510 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: my mother law. My mother called an ant flow. I 511 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: remember the first time's about Aunt Floy went. 512 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: Who do you have your friend? As your friend visited? 513 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: This is not my friend. This is a bleeding vagina. 514 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: I would not call it a friend. 515 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: But isn't it. 516 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: Weird that every yeah, everything, I don't I think. 517 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: I think the generations. You know, my daughter does not 518 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: use silly little words for her, you know, her daughter's 519 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: body parts. We call it what it is. But I 520 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: just remember thinking we grew up at that time. No, seriously, yes, 521 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: god right, here's the next one. Plastic surgery. How do 522 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: you just it's all about plastic surgery, ditasies and I 523 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: have I have a I have a a consultation for 524 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: a facelift. By the way, Okay, how do you decipher 525 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: if you're getting something done for you. Oh this is 526 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: a good one because I know the answer to this 527 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: one for me. Okay, how do you decipher if you're 528 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: getting something done for you versus feeling the compulsion to 529 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: quote fix something that is doing it for the wrong reasons? 530 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: I know, I get something done for me. It's me 531 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 2: in the mirror. 532 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 3: I mean, so, I. 533 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: Think if you're fixing something again, you know, having big 534 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: boobs wanted to there's nothing wrong with that. 535 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: I think the danger is, well, what would. 536 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: Be the wrong reason to please a man? 537 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: Say? Yeah, let's say I wanted you know, oh, I 538 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: want you to put new cheekbones in me because my cheekbone, 539 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: and that, to me is the wrong reason I want. 540 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: I want people to love who they are. It's you know, 541 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: and accept who they are. And then if you want 542 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: to enhance, as it goes south, you tweak it, yeah, 543 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: but not remaking your body. So my advice to you 544 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: is what Susan just said, take a long look in 545 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: the mirror and realize that you are made the way 546 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: you're made. I know it sounds ridiculous, but you should 547 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: be happy if you're healthy. I mean, of course, you 548 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: know we're going to get a lot of things. Well, 549 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 1: why aren't you happy aging? I am happy aging, but 550 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: I feel better when I tweak it. Yeah, so you're right, 551 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: you know what insecurities when dating? How do you navigate 552 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: having your own personal insecurities while dating and not letting 553 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: them meddle in your relationship? Well? 554 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: Who's them? 555 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: First of all, I'm guessing friends, parents. 556 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: Whoever, how do you navigate having your own personal purities 557 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: while dating and not letting them meddle in your relationship? 558 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: So let's say with you and Frederic, Uh, you don't 559 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: want you know, if you feel insecure. 560 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: And you know you could project that you could be you 561 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: don't want to project it and you. 562 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: Don't want to be in that jo. So what do 563 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: you do? What's your advice on that one? 564 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: I see? For me, I gotta be true to myself. 565 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: It's always being true to myself. If I get a 566 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: little jealous, I don't want it to be known. 567 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 568 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: That's something I would keep in. 569 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: You really, Yes, you wouldn't say to Frederic, hey I'm 570 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: feeling insecure about today. 571 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: I would, But when I was young. 572 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: Never, Well I don't think this is necessarily young. I 573 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: think it's just when you're dating. I don't know. I 574 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: wish people were more honest in their dating relationships and 575 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: said how how they feel, how someone else's actions, your 576 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: partner's actions makes you feel. 577 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: I wish we could do that more. 578 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: And you you don't say you made me feel You 579 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: say I feel like this when exactly? And I think 580 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: that's maturity that we're learning. 581 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, for all the younger people listening today, 582 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: it's there's nothing wrong in if you're feeling insecure. There's 583 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: nothing wrong in telling your partner how you feel insecure 584 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: and how he or she could make you feel. 585 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with. 586 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: The sooner you do it, the better you feel. And 587 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: insecurities and friendships, that's sex, right. 588 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Susan, I haven't heard from you in weeks. I'm 589 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: feeling very that's lying. 590 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: You navigate your own personal insecurities while being friends with 591 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: other women. If you find yourself feeling jealous when your 592 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: bestie gets hit on and you don't, where do you 593 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: go from there? I can say I'm jealous, I would 594 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: say envious. I'm so happy for you. When's it my turn? 595 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: You know? 596 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 597 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: I do think that sometimes friendships get women at any age. 598 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: I think you and I've seen this action from being 599 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: on the show. Get insecure about friend. Well, you talked 600 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: to this one more than that one. I don't know, 601 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Get over it. 602 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: He's given her more attention. Well, obviously there's some chemistry there. 603 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: If there's not here, then don't try wish for something 604 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: that you really don't even want. You know, a lot 605 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: of people will go out of their way to get 606 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: that attention, yet they're really not interested in that person. 607 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: It's just for the attention. Don't waste your time, all right, 608 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: this was so. 609 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: Much fun, it really was. Thank you to our listeners 610 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: for joining in. We hope we gave you some good 611 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: advice today. 612 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and if these are great with us, let us know. 613 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: And if you disagree, we're interested in that as well. 614 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: But let me just say, I know we're going to 615 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: take some heat on this whole plastic surgery thing. I 616 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: think I think the biggest thing here is being old enough. 617 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: As we've talked through this podcast, I think the biggest 618 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: thing is being old enough to make an informed decision. 619 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: And pay for it, and pay for it. 620 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: Does that as. 621 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: Well as you're doing it for the right reasons, you're 622 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: doing it because it's going to make you feel better, yeah, 623 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: you know, and not to attract a guy when you're no, 624 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: they don't even notice him at the time. Okay, everybody, 625 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: make sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour. 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