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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I let's do a live on a Tuesday edition to

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Speaker 2: clevel the Browns Daily.

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Speaker 3: Merely Bo the great z uh it's the roads are

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Speaker 3: dangerous out there, kids, Yeah, be careful as you're traversing Alrady.

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Speaker 4: Ridge shut fifteen accidents supposedly, Yeah, we've got eight traffic reports.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 4: The funny thing is what I finally got a hold

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Speaker 4: of Gibbe if I talk to you to let him

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Speaker 4: know that, you know, the bridge was closed, I'm like

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Speaker 4: trying to get off the freeway, which I finally did,

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Speaker 4: and then I'm navigating through all the roads or whatever,

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Speaker 4: and it ended up taking what should have been, you know,

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Speaker 4: a half hour drive, took.

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Speaker 2: An hour and five, right, right.

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Speaker 4: It could have been longer, could have been much worse,

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Speaker 4: could have been much worse had some daring moves that

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Speaker 4: paid off. But the funny thing is I called him

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Speaker 4: and he's like, oh yeah, ten accidents on the bridge, Like,

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Speaker 4: why do you know that?

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Speaker 2: Why he knows that? Why did you know that? But

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have to go over the alerts on your phone. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you got to remember who you're dealing with, the gibbe.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about traffic. Whether traffic is I live that,

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Speaker 2: I live world he lives. It's a situation.

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Speaker 5: You're this morning when when there was a line of

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Speaker 5: cars on my street in Homestead Falls to get to

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Speaker 5: four eighty. Yeah, I'm like, well that's not good. There

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Speaker 5: is nothing positive about what I'm seeing right now, and

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Speaker 5: I know that's what happens. It's yeah, it's the one

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Speaker 5: road that you can kind of cut through to get

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Speaker 5: the closed to get to four eighty and when it's

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Speaker 5: backed up, something bad's happened on for eighty.

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Speaker 4: Well the silver lining and what happened Saturday? Is that

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Speaker 4: get mad to how has more time to pursue his

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Speaker 4: his weather and traffic? That's true, there's time now, there's

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Speaker 4: a little more time. Sadly, very sadly, so this.

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Speaker 3: First time we've been on air since since what happened

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Speaker 3: on Saturday. Now that you have some time, how do

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Speaker 3: you how do you make sense? It's it's not a

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Speaker 3: losing to Houston, a super and Nova rookie quarterback. Really

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Speaker 3: well coached. They obviously had a plan that the manner

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Speaker 3: with which it happened was stunning. I mean, I was

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Speaker 3: so confident Friday, you and I did the show Friday,

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Speaker 3: you were en route at that point. We were very confident.

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Speaker 3: We talked all week about you know, the c J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud struggles against man defense, he struggles against pressure. All

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Speaker 3: of the things that we thought would work well didn't always.

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Speaker 2: Plad a lot of zone and we didn't get pressure. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was strange. It was spectat.

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Speaker 4: And we did play. We did play our fair share man.

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Speaker 4: But yes, to your point, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just did not go the way we thought

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Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 4: So here's okay, I'll go top level. Then I'll go

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Speaker 4: here's what was not, Here's what was bad. Here was

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Speaker 4: maybe where it wasn't as bad as it maybe feels

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Speaker 2: You look at that and you're like, it's a boat racing,

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Speaker 2: and ultimately it was.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 4: But but all right, So first overall, big sentiment, it

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Speaker 4: felt like that the defense did two things.

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Speaker 2: One, it was.

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Speaker 4: Almost stubborn in terms of you know who it was,

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Speaker 4: and said, we're not going to really change anything. We're

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Speaker 4: not gonna go double nicocollins. We're gonna play one on one.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna mix in a fair amount of zone. We're

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Speaker 4: not gonna give him different looks or different post snap

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Speaker 4: rotations that are confusing. Were the number one defense. We're

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Speaker 4: going to play our branded defense, and that didn't work

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Speaker 4: for a variety of reasons. Number one, you didn't get

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Speaker 4: pressure on the quarterback at all really. In fact, the

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Speaker 4: only times I think it was hit in the game

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Speaker 4: Taki on linebacker blitzes. So that's not generating your that's

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Speaker 4: not generating pressure. That's not helpful to what we're trying

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Speaker 4: to do here. The other thing is we had we

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Speaker 4: were the team that on defense made a lot of mistakes.

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Speaker 4: We made a lot of mistakes with our eye discipline,

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Speaker 4: with reading our keys and then going through and thus,

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Speaker 4: you know, there were eight times that a player on

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Speaker 4: the Texans and the game was five yards behind the

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Speaker 4: deepest defender of the Browns. That you know what that

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Speaker 4: number should be in a game, It should be zero. Well,

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Speaker 4: it felt like that well, because it was you had,

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Speaker 4: took him down to like the four yard line. You

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Speaker 4: had Ronnie Hickman had a dreadful game. Is he played

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Speaker 4: like an undrafted free agent rookie when the lights are

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Speaker 4: on bright And I remember talking to you and you

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Speaker 4: said one of the knocks on him coming out of ojase,

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Speaker 4: it was inconsistency because the good was obviously very good,

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Speaker 2: Was he was biting on.

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Speaker 4: Listen, if they're trying to make you come up when

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Speaker 4: you're a deep safety, whether it's a deep half as

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Speaker 4: he did in a Cover two or is the deep

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Speaker 4: run something in front of your eyes, it's because they're

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Speaker 4: trying to run something behind you and you need to

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Speaker 4: know that. And so there was a failure I thought

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Speaker 4: on that level as well. The Browns in this game

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Speaker 4: generated nine pressures total. I mean this, it's the lowest

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Speaker 4: pressure rate we've had all seasons. So that was a problem.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So.

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Speaker 4: Poor effort by the defense, zero sacks, zero takeaways. You

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Speaker 4: could have set that at the over under and a

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Speaker 4: half under both ways zero and by the way, now

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Speaker 4: we're tied, right because of his lack of belief.

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Speaker 2: Gross he's doing a victory lap.

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Speaker 4: He's only tied.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess, so what do we decide then in

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Speaker 2: the postseason. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Strength have to go to the postseason. We go to

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Speaker 4: the post that could anyway tie? No, no, can't, can't

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Speaker 4: have Yeah, he was under pressure. It's just nuts. So

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Speaker 4: that part of it was crazy. Stroud picked us apart,

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Speaker 4: whether it was clean or under pressure. He played a

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Speaker 4: great game. You tip, you kept him so defense. To me,

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Speaker 4: I've put a lot of the emphasis the focus on

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Speaker 4: the defense. Now that all being said, there are a

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Speaker 4: lot of times, oh what they rested the guys. I

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Speaker 4: would have a better easier time understanding that if we

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Speaker 3: I don't think right we weren't rusty. I think it's

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Speaker 3: one of those things that when it doesn't work out

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Speaker 3: I just think that's nonsense.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't buy that anyway.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is Joe Flacco came off his couch

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Speaker 3: and was fine. So like the notion that an NFL

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Speaker 3: player not playing a meaningless Sunday. By the way, Los

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Speaker 3: Mojo come on. He was very good in the first half,

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Speaker 3: spectacular in the first half. That gets lost because of

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Speaker 3: the pick because we lost, and yes, but he was

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Speaker 3: so sensational in the first half. And the crazy thing

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Speaker 3: back on some of the defensive things. You've got to

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Speaker 3: be able to run the football. You cannot be one

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Speaker 3: dimensional and that didn't happen. Well, we dimensional because you're

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Speaker 4: Because chasing, but in the first half you end up

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Speaker 4: down twenty four to fourteen, and that I put a

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Speaker 4: up two hundred and eighty six yards on twenty seven plays.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty decent at math. The fact that two eighty

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Speaker 4: like they average the first down to play fields like

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Speaker 4: got to eliminate chunk plays. This is just in the

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Speaker 4: first half. They had a seventy six yard catch and

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles. More on that later. I'm sure a thirty

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Speaker 4: seven yard touchdown adult Schultz, twenty seven yard catch to Mechi,

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Speaker 4: twenty nine yard run by Devin Singletary. So he didn't

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Speaker 4: eliminate chunk plays. But going back to the offense and

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Speaker 4: going back to just overall in this game, with six

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Speaker 4: third quarter I'm sorry, six mithsic go in the third

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Speaker 4: third quarter, the Browns had the ball first and ten

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Speaker 4: at the Houston thirty four yep, down ten, So that's

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Speaker 4: very much a game. At that point, you feel like, okay,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna get three, maybe seven would be great, but

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a one possession game. And now

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Speaker 4: the pressure at least in that situation shifts a little

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Speaker 2: And instead, as we know, with six minutes and twenty

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Speaker 4: Left, James Hudson and you go back to the things

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Speaker 4: that the things that we had gotten away with, right,

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Speaker 4: Oh good, Yeah, we'd gotten away with our fourth and

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Speaker 4: fifth tackles all year. Well on that play, the pick six.

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Speaker 4: The only reason that play even happens is because James

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Speaker 4: Hudson got absolutely roasted. Now, Elijah put on a double

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Speaker 4: move that I think, had he had time to throw,

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Speaker 4: throw it away. He's not trying to completely pass. He

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Speaker 4: was trying to throw it away. Doesn't get enough on it.

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Speaker 4: Pick over. That was the game at that point. That

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Speaker 4: was the game they get another time.

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Speaker 3: You're going forward on your you know that's a fourth

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Speaker 3: down on your own. It's desperate times at that point.

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Speaker 4: Right, But with six basico in the third quarter, you

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Speaker 4: were very much you were ready to make this a

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Speaker 4: one possession game.

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Speaker 3: And we didn't get a chance to see defensive adjustments

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Speaker 3: because of it. Well no, because of that, so like

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Speaker 3: you didn't get to see what changed would have changed

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Speaker 3: in halftime defensively, because the game is cooked with that pick.

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Speaker 4: Right, because you did get a three, you got the

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Speaker 4: ball back, not a three and out, but you forced

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Speaker 4: a punt on their first possession to open it. That

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Speaker 4: was our first possession. The tea six, pick six, Good night, Irene.

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Speaker 4: The first half of the defense though, was I think inexcusable.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's first time ever the number one defense

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Speaker 4: is lost to a rookie quarterback ever in the history

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Speaker 4: of the NFL in the playoffs, and we didn't play

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Speaker 4: like the number one defense. We played like the number

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Speaker 4: thirty one defense because I will, I will keep us

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Speaker 4: ahead of Philadelphia's performance.

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Speaker 3: It felt like in the first half of the football

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Speaker 3: game that c J strouded the answers to the test,

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Speaker 3: that they knew that they were so their ability to

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Speaker 2: Situations with relatively like some of it is.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned displays plays specifically, but the amount of guys

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Speaker 4: He was the safety like Schwartz's great, how great he

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Speaker 2: You're not going to find anything better than that.

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Speaker 3: So it just sucks because even if you would have

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Speaker 3: It's big boys stuff. We're not as we were, we

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Speaker 4: It was fifteen to nineteen, one hundred and seventy two,

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Speaker 2: You know, it was just I agree it was that

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Speaker 4: But like you said, it was a very very I

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Speaker 3: chance to be in it, like as a second team All.

439
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 2: Pro or something like that. He played that way on Saturday.

440
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 2: He was a missile, an absolute missile. Man.

441
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 4: I mean he was as again, I think that says

442
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 4: it all best player on the field, nine tackles, four

443
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 4: tackles for a loss. He was everywhere. He's got some

444
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 4: of the only pressures that we actually got on the

445
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 4: quarterback and hits on Stroud And I think what's incredible

446
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 4: about him and how much he's grown is you know,

447
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 4: and we'll talk about this because I have a few

448
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 4: of these type of conversations I wanted to be able

449
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 4: to shed a little light on.

450
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 2: But you know, he was the guy.

451
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: So in Houston, when our locker room, you actually when

452
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 4: you leave the locker room, you actually walk the entire

453
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,479
Speaker 4: length of the field to go out of another tunnel

454
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 4: and then that's how you get to leave. So they

455
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 4: have to walk past our bench. So at the end

456
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 4: of the game, you know, I did my postgame and

457
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 4: I just kind of sat on the bench and I

458
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 4: figured that, you know, there were some people that on

459
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 4: the team that I've developed relaships with that I wanted

460
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 4: to kind of talk to at the end of it

461
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 4: and stuff, and one of them was j Okay and

462
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 4: his maturity. Obviously, I think the tragedy and he said

463
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: as much, the tragedy that happened with his brother forced

464
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 4: him to be very introspective about how he was conducting

465
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 4: his business and what he really wanted out of football,

466
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 4: but more broadly life. And he was the best player

467
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 4: out there and I thought that it was so impressive

468
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 4: and I and I told him that, and it's funny.

469
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 4: The first thing he said back to me is, yeah,

470
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 4: but I should have dropped off on the seventy six

471
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 4: yard touchdown. That was my fault. And even in his presser,

472
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 4: he was like, you know, I could have been a

473
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 4: lot better, which is an unbelievable perspective to have. And

474
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 4: he's been so thoughtful, so conscientious about I think his

475
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 4: words and his actions, and he really has become a

476
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 4: superstar and a leader of this team. I mean, I

477
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 4: think that, you know, you take into account the fact

478
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 4: that since the year, there's only been in the last

479
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,959
Speaker 4: like twelve years, three players who have ever had one

480
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 4: hundred tackles twenty tackles for a loss but fewer than

481
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 4: five secs because to get twenty tucks unless you got

482
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 4: to be playing behind the line of scrimmage pretty much

483
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 4: every play. I mean, it was like Max Crosby, daneil

484
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 4: Hunter and maybe Watt were the three that were There

485
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 4: are three people that were ahead of him in that category.

486
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: The only other ones that ever.

487
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: Did were Luke Keigley in a year where I think

488
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 4: he may have been like defensive Player of the Year

489
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 4: and then we're talking Levante David peak of his powers

490
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 4: like twenty twelve.

491
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

492
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 4: So he did something very historic this year. He's grown

493
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 4: in such a way and he I mean, and we

494
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 4: had as a team five tackles for a loss. He

495
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 4: had four of them, and the one that he didn't

496
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 4: have he hit the guy first, didn't make the tackle,

497
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 4: and then Dalvin cleaned it up right, So he really

498
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 4: had all five negative plays in the game were directly

499
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: attributable to j Okay.

500
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

501
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: He was a heat sinking missile. He was absolutely sensational.

502
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: Today is Joe Flacco's thirty ninth birthday. Happy birthday to

503
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: Joe the Joe Flacco. I don't know how you're gonna

504
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: it's so crazy to put like that month into perspective

505
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: of what he did.

506
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: Likesanity because Sandy last that it hadd like this felt more.

507
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: It felt more like real sustainable to me. Lisanity was

508
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 3: that kind of felt fluky. Yeah, nothing about Flacco's play

509
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: seems because he's been you know, because because he's established,

510
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: like to have to have him pay a troop in

511
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: because you're right, it's number one defense that allows for

512
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: us to do to have this season in the offense

513
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: was the plucky offense.

514
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: But if he doesn't come in, we're not there. Like

515
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 2: our offense became Joe.

516
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: Flacco for a month where he's throwing for three hundred

517
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: yards every game, like it became him and Amari Cooper.

518
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: He did it, agou and he did it again in

519
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: this game.

520
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 3: Like whatever we were able to get offensively was on

521
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 3: the arm of Joe Flacco, and like that's nuts that

522
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: that happened. The idea that our first touchdown in the

523
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: playoffs was Joe Flacco handing to Kareem Hunt. What in

524
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 3: the hell are we talking about?

525
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: How this happened? And our second was Joe Flacco's shovel

526
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 2: pass to Kareem Hunt. Oh wait, what are we talking about?

527
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: He's a only thirty eight year old ever to have

528
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 4: five straight games of three hundred yards passing only whenever

529
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 4: Brady never did it, Breeze never did it.

530
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 6: It is.

531
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Speaker 2: It is going to be a month that will be

532
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: remembered only forever.

533
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: Here the way that he played, the leader that he

534
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: was he and then last couple of weeks he was

535
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: kind of like a face of the franchise.

536
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: Completely in a month like it happened. He's such an

537
00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: incredible thing.

538
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 4: From the time he took over, he led the NFL

539
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: in passing yards, passing, touchdowns and interceptions.

540
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: There it is the full experience. You got it all. Yeah,

541
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: you know, he was great.

542
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 4: So he's another one of the guys. When he came,

543
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: when he was walking off and he was beating up dejected,

544
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: I don't think obviously nobody wanted it to end that way,

545
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 4: So that doesn't even really need to be said. That's

546
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 4: just that's a given that's obvious.

547
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: But you know what I said to him, was.

548
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 4: What an honor it was to get to obviously to

549
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: get to know him, and what an honor was to

550
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 4: watch him kind of live his dream again and give

551
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: this city. And what I told him is, I said,

552
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 4: who knows, you know obviously what happens from here, but

553
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 4: you did something in a month where and you can

554
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 4: look at it. Oh, he became the most popular he's

555
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 4: ever been, and all that stuff, and the stuff for

556
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: his family and you got to play in front your

557
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: kids and all that. But I said, what you did

558
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 4: for this city and this region and really around the

559
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 4: world for Browns fans, is that you gave a generation

560
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: of Browns fans that maybe had not had that moment,

561
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: that moment that's going to make them Browns fans forever.

562
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: You had fathers and sons, and fathers and daughters, mothers

563
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 4: and daughters, families there on that Thursday night to be

564
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: a part of, or through the television feel what happened

565
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: in Cleveland. And a lot of it is and it's

566
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 4: not singularly, but a lot of it is due to

567
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco.

568
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: Yes, and so he.

569
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: Obviously should hold his head very very high. It's easy

570
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 4: to do when you're six six, but even higher than that,

571
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: and I just kind of, you know, we had a

572
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: little embrace, and I was just like you, the story

573
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 4: of whatever this organization becomes kind of after this is

574
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 4: impossible to write without what you contributed in a month,

575
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 4: and that is I think a very powerful thing because

576
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 4: I think it's part of the culture that has been

577
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: built here, and then it's part of the culture and

578
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: the fabric around the organization. Everybody hates the way to

579
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 4: send it. I hate the way it ended. Everybody does.

580
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: But the ride that we went on and the ride

581
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: from the time that I mean to think about in

582
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: la You see him on the UCLA Praxice field and

583
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 4: I'm like walking around and people be like, are you

584
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 4: seeing what I'm seeing?

585
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: Like this is intere and you came in and you called.

586
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: You're like, dude, he looks good. I'm like, come on,

587
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? He looks unreal? What off

588
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: the street or off the couch. Yes.

589
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: I remember talking to a couple of the coaches and

590
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: they were like, uh, yeah, we've got to go with

591
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 4: this guy and we have a chance to win this change.

592
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: It changed him. Coming here changed everything, and I do

593
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: think that it was an honor and a privilege. I

594
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: love that word that you used. It was an honor.

595
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: You know, there there is a a couple of generations

596
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: because we have not been able to have like a

597
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: full Deshaun season for what he is and what he

598
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: was in Houston.

599
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: We haven't been able to have that. You got a

600
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: little taste, you know, in the in the Baltimore game.

601
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: You get this taste, but you don't get like a you.

602
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: Never got the full experience like Joe Flacco for a

603
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: month gave you what a franchise quarterback gives you a

604
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: chance every Sunday out front of organization.

605
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he was everywhere like that's what it's like.

606
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: And we got like a taste of that for a

607
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: month and I'm appreciative of that forever totally.

608
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: I Mean, that was awesome.

609
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: And the thing that's so crazy from the Deshaun standpoint

610
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 4: is he went five and won this year, but it

611
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 4: was disjointed, right. It was under tough conditions, good gutsy

612
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: out play against the Bengals Week one, you get a win,

613
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: then he kind of lights up Tennessee. That was like

614
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, that's like You're like, okay, all right,

615
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: we're good and then two it was Patsburg. Week three

616
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 4: was Tennessee, so it was like good, bad good injury

617
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: try again in Indianapolis is come back couple of good,

618
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: really good against Arizona, but they were like hapless at

619
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: that point. And then you have the Baltimore and you're like,

620
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: all right, warback done for the year, yep. And then

621
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 4: you had you know, dtr gave you a gutty win.

622
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: PJ had given you some gutty wins. And then you

623
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: know Flacco comes in. You're like, Okay, we've studied the ship.

624
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: This guy's making huge plays thrown for astronomical numbers, and

625
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: he's a great play action quarterback. I really think if

626
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 4: there's anything we can take out of this Flacco experience

627
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: or the Deshaun can it's how do I add to

628
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: my game the ability to be that effective and back

629
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: to the field play action hard play action, because if

630
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: he does, he's definitely better in straight dropback situations than

631
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: Flacco is. He can also then extend plays and or

632
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: drives with his legs yep. So he gives you all

633
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: of that. That's the one element where he just like

634
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: kills people on the play action that hasn't been there,

635
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: and that's what you know in this system, you watch

636
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: kids like Jordan Love, Yeah, Jordan Love. It's those play

637
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 4: action chunks and Flacco stats. I mean Flaco's yards, pretentpt

638
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: on play actions like thirteen. Yeah, that's where it is.

639
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 4: It's all but it's all there. He needs that play action,

640
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: Deshaun if he can get to that point, and I

641
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 4: really think that should be the focus of everything as

642
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: the under the center pre picture back to the defense

643
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: that picture. Read it and hopefully I know he's He's

644
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: talked with Flacco quite a bit. Maybe Flacco can help

645
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: kind of explain these are the kind of this is

646
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 4: how I see it, because if that's the case, I

647
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 4: think we have a chance to be an incredible offense

648
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 4: going forward. But yeah, Fla, it wasn't on or it

649
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: was a privileged youth. I think we haven't had many

650
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: people even be in the studio. He came in here,

651
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 4: quarterback in here was great, awesome. I know last time

652
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 4: we had a starting quarterback in studio with.

653
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: Us Baker early yeah, early rookie year, Gibbs yeah, probably

654
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: rookie year Baker yeah.

655
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: Because then yeah, because the only memory I have of

656
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: him in here, like vivid. Vivid was when you're like

657
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Speaker 4: introducing yourself, You're like, I'm a heismand voter.

658
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Speaker 2: No, he asked why we had the all of our

659
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: said I'm a Heisman voter. He should be too. Yeah, yeah,

660
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Speaker 2: was it. But that was definitely the first years time

661
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Speaker 2: we interviewed him.

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Speaker 3: Maybe one other time now, that was the first time

663
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Speaker 3: I interviewed him because I started that year, I started

664
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Speaker 3: his rookie year, so I interview him in the draft process.

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Speaker 5: It was the Oliver conversation first, Yeah, and then we

666
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Speaker 5: interviewed him in a tent that was a mini camp

667
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Speaker 5: on the five Greatest Moments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the four history and that would have

669
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Speaker 3: been in mini camp, right, Yes, that was a mandatory

670
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Speaker 3: mini camp. Yes, nineteen, so that was after we had

671
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Speaker 3: Freddy was Odell and Freddy and all of that.

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Speaker 2: That's so that would have been nineteen, So that's in

673
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: here though eighteen can gibbe, can you name the four Hossmen?

674
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Speaker 2: Do we even want to expose that to the people?

675
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Speaker 2: I think we leave that, we leave that fun between

676
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: the mystery, leave that mystery. Could you have done it? Yeah?

677
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: I could have. I know you could have. I think

678
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: he gets three out of four. Yeah, I don't know.

679
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Speaker 2: If I get all four, I will find out the break.

680
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: I bet you do. I bet you will if you

681
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Speaker 2: if you think about it, I think.

682
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Speaker 6: So.

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00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: Look it's it was everything this season had at all,

684
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: and it just it kind of went out with a whimper.

685
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: And that was the unbefitting. That's the perfect it was.

686
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Speaker 2: I'd love that word. It's a good word. Good job

687
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Speaker 2: to you.

688
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Speaker 3: As for what's next, well, that's a conversation we'll have

689
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Speaker 3: now until the Greenbrier next year, provided we go back.

690
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna have this conversation every day, but.

691
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Speaker 3: We will start it in terms of the off season outlook,

692
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: needless to say, critical off season for this roster and

693
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: how it's going to be shaped and what it needs

694
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: to be improved upon.

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Speaker 2: We will start to have that conversation.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a lot of fun there. Oh exciting,

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be very I don't know where to beget.

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Speaker 2: There's so much here.

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Speaker 3: This is Jake Trotter and the folks at ESPN put

716
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Speaker 3: this kind of together in terms of the off season outlook,

717
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: and obviously this will be a conversation that we'll be

718
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: had in varying incarnations many times between now and You're

719
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 3: going to have this conversation and lead up to free

720
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: agency in the draft and the combine and all of

721
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: this stuff. You finish at eleven and six, a final

722
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: FBI ranking of number fifteen. The estimated cap space right

723
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: now is minus twelve point seven millions.

724
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Speaker 2: There's gonna be some restructures.

725
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: There is not a first round draft pick on this

726
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: roster because that one goes to Houston's part of the

727
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson trade. Some of the thoughts that we're given

728
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Speaker 3: here from the this has got to be Jake right.

729
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: It's got to be Jake, Yeah, Jake right.

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Speaker 4: There's no look, it was Jake Trotter, but a couple

731
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Speaker 4: of other writers contributed to this portion of the article.

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Speaker 2: So Trotter wrote some of it, and then some other

733
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Speaker 2: guys yeah as well. Jake's the best.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland you focus on extending coach Chemists fantasy general manager

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Speaker 3: Andrew Berry.

736
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Speaker 2: I would imagine that would be one of the first jobs.

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Speaker 3: The team has no first round pick, we'll pick fifty

738
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: fourth in this year's draft, will have a chance to

739
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: select an impact player at that spot. Their big prediction

740
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 3: for the offseason, Despite questions about his return from knee injury,

741
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: the Browns will sign Nick Chubb to an extensure, which

742
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: allow him to keep him past the twenty twenty four season,

743
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Speaker 3: while also lowering his cap charged to help the Browns

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Speaker 3: get under the number.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of time for all of this.

746
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: How I suppose the let's just think bigger picture. How

747
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Speaker 2: do you take.

748
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: The organizational character that was developed in this season and

749
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Speaker 3: apply that to an off season? And I remember we

750
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: had Paul deep Adesta in here. I can't remember it

751
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: was the last off season that won before and it

752
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Speaker 3: was one of the first times he was on with us,

753
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: and he said, you know, he talked about the Browns way,

754
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: and we said, well, what is that? And he said, well,

755
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give it to you. I don't want

756
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm not going to define it, but we know what

757
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 3: it is. I think what we saw this year is

758
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: the Browns way, the stick to itness that this operation had,

759
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: the fact that they all rode in the same direction

760
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: despite obstacle obstacle obstacle. How do you make sure that

761
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: that is now who you are and so that even

762
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: when things don't go your way, you have the intestinal

763
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: fortitude that this one did to teep going in the

764
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: right direction and be part of the character of the team.

765
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: To me, that is we'll get into the specifics of

766
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: upgrade receivers and running backs and and what do you

767
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: do with certain rooms, but that to me, has got

768
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: to be the got to be the focal point.

769
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Speaker 2: Is this is who we are. How do we now

770
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Speaker 2: build upon this going forward and make sure that this

771
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Speaker 2: is the baseline.

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Speaker 4: Right And that's the challenge in the NFL, because it

773
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: is always often very fleeting to be successful.

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Speaker 2: But as we kind of take a look.

775
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Speaker 4: At the lay of the land for the Browns, here

776
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 4: are the guys that will one hundred percent be back

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Speaker 4: next year. Okay, let's just kind of start there. You

778
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 4: ready for that, Yeah, just kind of broad just this

779
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: is broad strokes. So there are people that have that

780
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Speaker 4: are under.

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Speaker 2: Contract shows till may. I know them through the summer too.

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Speaker 2: We will shows. Get my pan if we're doing this,

783
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: I want to get a pen. Well you're saying, like,

784
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: how do you kind of keep it together? Oh, I

785
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: see what you're doing. I like where your head's at. Yeah,

786
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: Like I always trust the private school. Give you, give you,

787
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: give you a long rain, all right, the secretary, get

788
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Speaker 2: out there and run away.

789
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Speaker 4: Let me run a little bit.

790
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: So here are the guys that are under contract that

791
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: have guarantees next a little bit. Ponies. They just want

792
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: to run, that's all they want to do.

793
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: Sean obviously at quarterback, Chief at tight end, Will's and

794
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 4: Conklin at tackle, post It at center, Okanquo at the edge,

795
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: Dalvin at tackle, Warden Newsom at corner, Thornhill, and Delpit

796
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 4: at safety.

797
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Speaker 2: Garrett didn't you know, because he's at.

798
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Speaker 4: The point now where he does, He's going to be yes.

799
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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna talk about that in the second part.

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Speaker 4: So then here are the guys that are under a

801
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: contract but don't have guarantees. Anybody that's on their rookie

802
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: contract throw them out. So here are the guys that

803
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 4: have big numbers that I think are the candidates for

804
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: restructuring to keep your core together and provide financial flexibility.

805
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb, Amari Cooper, Joel Botonio Wyatt, Teller, Miles.

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Speaker 2: Garrett significant names, sir, significant to the core, YEP.

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00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: And so you have then in this room because these

808
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: are people I would imagine and and look, you might

809
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: have to make a hard decision on you You're going

810
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: to one or two of these guys that just might

811
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Speaker 4: be the reality of it. But what that what I

812
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: the reason that I point this out to you is

813
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 4: that you have then individuals that are under contract to

814
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: you that you have the ability to perhaps manipulate their

815
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 4: number for the short term to help maintain this, you know,

816
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: and kick some of the can down the road. So,

817
00:38:52,560 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 4: for example, Amari Cooper going into this season in twenty

818
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: twenty four, depending on how you again, you know, all

819
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: these different designations. Sure, but if it was, for example,

820
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: a post June first cut, and I'm not advocating, nobody

821
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 4: listened to this and say that I'm talking about getting

822
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 4: rid of Amari Cooper, it's three million of dead money,

823
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: it's twenty million of savings.

824
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

825
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 4: That makes him, to me absolutely a guy that you

826
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Speaker 4: could restructure and then just throw like a little bit

827
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Speaker 4: of it down into the future. Miles would be put

828
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Speaker 4: Miles into the other one. Miles, he is a candidate

829
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Speaker 4: for a restructure, but he is going He's gonna be here.

830
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb is a twelve million dollars savings

831
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Speaker 4: on the cap with a four million dead if he's

832
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: before or post Buttonio, for example, is eight million of

833
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 4: savings post June first, why it would be seven million

834
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Speaker 4: of savings post June first. Again, not saying that they'll

835
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 4: cut these guys, but because of the way that these

836
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 4: contracts are structured, those are people who are eligible, I

837
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Speaker 4: think to really be restructured on their contracts, and that

838
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 4: helps you keep your core drops your cap number. What

839
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: did we say right there with twenty twenty eight, thirty

840
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 4: four and forty six million. So those are I think

841
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: candidates to help you get other people. Then who are

842
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 4: the guys that you probably are interested in keeping that

843
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 4: are true unrestricted free agents? Flacco receiver, I don't know,

844
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 4: jackim Grant's been hurt, I don't a good win.

845
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: You don't know.

846
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: Proche tight end would be Harrison Bryant. Aikens is another

847
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 4: guy that doesn't have necessarily guarantees to them. That could

848
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: be two million dollars of savings. You know, maybe a

849
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 4: draft a guy and say okay, there's.

850
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: Two million on the line. You know you've got.

851
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 4: Jared Christians an unrestricted free agent, Michael Dunns an unrestricted

852
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 4: free agent, Nick Harris is an unrestricted free agent. Defensive

853
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: ends Zadarius is an unrestricted free agent, and then he

854
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 4: got Shelby, Maurice Hurst, Jordan Elliott, all unrestricted free agents

855
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: in your defensive tackle room. And Siakika did not give

856
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 4: you any confidence that you're like, Okay, this guy's a

857
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 4: stud in our rotation next year. His game against Cincinnati

858
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: was unfortunately, yeah, terrible Kinney YEP linebackers, a walk, Taki Takei,

859
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 4: Matt Adams, big special teams guy Kunashik, Jacob Phillips, who's

860
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 4: unfortunately been hurt all year. Cornerback Mike Ford Junior, pretty

861
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: good on special teams, safety McLeod, Doron Harmon probably McLeod.

862
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: But how does he come back? Or do you feel

863
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: confident now? Bell and Hickman showed you a lot.

864
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: I think maybe you can get away with some savings

865
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: there and then your special teams. Borkus is a an

866
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 4: unrestricted free agent and was a darn good punter.

867
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Speaker 2: So that's a lot going on. There is a lot

868
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: going on.

869
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 4: But the restructure piece of it is pretty good.

870
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Speaker 3: It's funny, like with as smart as our people are

871
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: and as willing as our ownership is, when I see

872
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: like the negative cap thing and zero concern about that,

873
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah they'll I think that'll get sorted out.

874
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't worry about that at all.

875
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 3: I think the thing that is going to be really

876
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: paramount for this is you. Every You mentioned all of

877
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: those names and a lot of those guys are homegrown

878
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 3: guys who have developed into superstars here stars and superstars here.

879
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: They are also a lot of names that you just

880
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 3: mentioned who are smack dab in the middle of their prime.

881
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: And so you have a job as an organization to

882
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: max out right now. You are in the middle of

883
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: it right now, and if Deshaun can stay healthy, maybe

884
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: there's another window down the road four or five years

885
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: from now where all of the roster comes together and

886
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 3: you can make several runs at this thing. But in

887
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: terms of being a super Bowl contender, that is something

888
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: that has to be done this off season. And I

889
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: think that in addition to keeping all most of the

890
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: guys that you just mentioned, you need to buttress spots

891
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: on this team in order to contend with the teams

892
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 3: that are still playing. Wide receiver has to be job one.

893
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: And I honestly don't know because of you know who

894
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 3: knows like Nick's timetable, But I think you got a

895
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: buttress at running back too. I think you've got to

896
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: be more explosive there behind Nick Chubb. So I think

897
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: wide receiver and running back have got to be like

898
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 3: top of the mind. The good news is most of

899
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: the other things you talked about because we had injuries

900
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: this year, like, for example, the two tackles with Will's

901
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: and Conklin like Dwan Jones's stud So you're really good

902
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: at that spot, the guard situation, the interior offensive line

903
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: you mentioned, Harris, Well, you're pretty good at a lot

904
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: of those spots based on the guys that you've developed.

905
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 4: Whipler's going to be a guy are But you have

906
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 4: to wonder at some point like can you pay all?

907
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 4: Can you continue to pay? You're all five on the

908
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: offensive nine and where is it going to come from?

909
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: It's going to come from the interior. At some point

910
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: they're gonna make a decision on the interior the offensive

911
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: line and not pay one of.

912
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: Those guys would seem like guard is kind of where

913
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: the logical spot for that. So these are the hard

914
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: decisions that are going to be made. But there is

915
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 3: a tremendous there's a tremendous amount to be optimistic about

916
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 3: based on everything that you saw this year and based

917
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: on all of the names you just mentioned, so many

918
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: of them stars are superstars in the case of the

919
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: guys at the very top, but also a tremendous sense

920
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: of urgency to be to find more dynamic play at

921
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: wide receiver, because that was something that was glaring in

922
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: the game against Houston. As good as Flacco was in

923
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: the first half, and Amari, god bless him, was playing

924
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: hurt clearly wasn't his normal self, and you didn't have

925
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: Tilman in the game, and you just weren't getting much

926
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: out of anybody else.

927
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: One target strange in the whole game, and you wonder,

928
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: here's what was interesting me about Elijah Moore because I

929
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: think everybody would coming out of the Greenment, everybody expected

930
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: him to have significantly better numbers than he did. What

931
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 4: I thought was really interesting is if you go to

932
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 4: the Jets game, Amari's ruled out before the game, he

933
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: basically goes into the Amari role and balled out.

934
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, ye had a really nice game.

935
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 4: But it feels like our offense is predicated upon Amari

936
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: chief checkdown or sometimes Chief Amari checkdown.

937
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: We don't really.

938
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: Utilize, or have not consistently all of the options and

939
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 4: kind of taken advantage of Necessarily, it's designed for the

940
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: isolated receiver, much like the Texans offense is that designed

941
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: for the isolated receiver. In terms of Nico Collins, like

942
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 4: Nico Collins and Amari were the only two receivers in

943
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 4: the league that had more than five hundred yards when isolated.

944
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: And so I was encouraged by the Jets game because

945
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 4: that was the one where it's like you put him

946
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: in that role and he was actually really good. But

947
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: I think we need to look at why we don't

948
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 4: distribute the football more effectively to multiple people.

949
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 2: Think about it. Who has been very good.

950
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 4: He was getting no targets really Tilman gets got no

951
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 4: targets in that role either, Elijah hardly got any of

952
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: the targets went to Amar and the chief and now,

953
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 4: and I'm fine with that, but if you want to

954
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 4: be consistent weak in and week out, I do think

955
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 4: there's something to where the ball is and now our

956
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 4: scheme is, here's the other part of our scheme is

957
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: so good that when you have the primary guy, they're

958
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: gonna get the ball a lot. But I think that

959
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 4: like Elijah Moore is talented, no doubt, and he creates

960
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: separation and he catches pretty much everything that's thrown to him.

961
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 4: I think there needs to be a little bit of

962
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 4: an examination of maybe we make them think, you know,

963
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 4: spreading out who actually true is the primary if you

964
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 4: have guys that you believe in, and I do think

965
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: you know, whether it be a T. Higgins, whether it

966
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 4: be that second round pick, like, you've got to get

967
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: another receiver in here, no question, because Amari is amazing.

968
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 4: But he's getting up there in age and you saw

969
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 4: and it's both seasons. By the end of the season

970
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 4: last year he had an injury I think, like to

971
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 4: a core muscle. And by the end of this season

972
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 4: he was baling the heel and clearly was not you

973
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 4: know who he was in that game against the Texans

974
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: last time.

975
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but to me, that's top job, is that situation.

976
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: Once you figure out your cap and make some tough

977
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 3: decisions it might have to be made there. Then the

978
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: next is you gotta have some weapons to this thing,

979
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 3: because you're not you have to be. Unfortunately, we continue

980
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: to be in the AFC, and now they've added another

981
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: dude to that mix with Stroud, So I mean, it's

982
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: not a coincidence. It's Lamar, it's Stroud, it's Josh Allen,

983
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: and it's Mahomes and Burrow's coming back next to will

984
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: be better next year.

985
00:47:59,360 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: Hebert.

986
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I wouldn't I'm not saying I

987
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: still am not ready to count out Trevor Lawrence completely.

988
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 4: I mean he was pretty beaten up this year. Trevor

989
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: Lawrence is very good. The kid in Indianapolis with Shane

990
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 4: Steiken is gonna be good. I mean they had a

991
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 4: pretty good season with Minshew and Richardson can give him

992
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 4: a little more than Gardner Minshew can. And by the way,

993
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 4: the watching the just complex complete collapse of what the

994
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 4: Eagles are on offense following Stikeen's departure is wild and

995
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 4: tells you what a big piece of what they did.

996
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 4: He was same with Gannon on the defensive side, like

997
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 4: they are dread.

998
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm not. I feel like they're.

999
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 4: We'll talk about when we talked about Belichick.

1000
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: Is that was it? Coming way later?

1001
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: Okay, I think that I have a theory on the

1002
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 4: Atlanta interview, which I'll get to then Teezer, there.

1003
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Speaker 3: Rolling Stones for more information on that. It was the

1013
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: Super wild Card weekend. We had the postponement of the

1014
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 3: game between the Bills and the Steelers, which led into yesterday,

1015
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: and with the holiday, it was kind of nice having

1016
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: a little little double dip there even as you were

1017
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: dealing with your calamity.

1018
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call it a well, hey we have we've

1019
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: gotten into that yet.

1020
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it a happy accident, and I'm gonna

1021
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 4: call upon the National Football League to give me two Saturday,

1022
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 4: two Sunday, two Monday going forward.

1023
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 3: Here's what you have to do, though, if you're going

1024
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 3: to do that, the two Monday games have to be

1025
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: either dome or warm weather because if you can't have

1026
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 3: a situation now where weather would force a postponement of

1027
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: a Monday.

1028
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: Game, fair, so you have to go.

1029
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: If you're gonna do two Monday, which I'm proponent of,

1030
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: then you have to do one of them's got to

1031
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: be it's it's got.

1032
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: To be a game. They both need to be warm

1033
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: weather or dome.

1034
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 4: It was so much nicer on Sunday to have only

1035
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 4: two was able to have a good product. Agree, it

1036
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 4: was overwhelming with the kids. Got that in the game

1037
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: that I really wanted to watch, which turned out to

1038
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 4: be the only the only decent game of the weekend.

1039
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 6: It really was.

1040
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 4: It was the only decent game of the weekend. Yeah,

1041
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 4: the rest of was what I wanted to watch, and

1042
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: it delivered on every level.

1043
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: But I was juice for it.

1044
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 4: Stayed up no problem. He started with I think it's

1045
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: a way to go. I think it's a way to go.

1046
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 4: And I like the four thirty people on the West

1047
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 4: Coast listen.

1048
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: Well, they could always line up with MLK too, right,

1049
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: and you can right, so you have day off. I

1050
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: think it's perfect. I think you do it. I think

1051
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: that's the way you go from now on to to two. Yeah,

1052
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: I loved it.

1053
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: I mean I was in the e er, I was

1054
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 4: able to put my YouTube TV on my phone and

1055
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 4: I was getting stitched up watching the game.

1056
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: You're okay, thankful, and it's quite the wound. Yeah, what

1057
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: exactly did you do? What did you do? Y? Well,

1058
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: great follower, So do you remember one of you know

1059
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: that movie? Look and I'm looking Nope, nope, boy, I

1060
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: watched it. Do you know who goes? Are the Gozarian?

1061
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: Is no clue. That's such a shame. That's all that seems,

1062
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: you know, doctor, doctor Peter Weinkman is NBC watched it

1063
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: with me this summer. We watched it. That's that's on

1064
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: that like that's a show. It's on parenting, It's on.

1065
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of blame parenting

1066
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: issues there. Thanks, mom failed soon you failed everybody. The

1067
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 4: movies Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters Classic come on and maybe it's such

1068
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 4: a classic, Dame.

1069
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: They tried to remake it. It holds up perfectly, great,

1070
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: it's great. Are then the Running Beast? That thing looks

1071
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: a little weird.

1072
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: Well, they didn't have the technology then to really make

1073
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 4: that bargo Oyle come to life and look great.

1074
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: It looked great in close proximity, it did, yeah, but

1075
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: then when it would run it was a little chunky.

1076
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah that point anyway, they didn't have the CGI. So Santa,

1077
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 4: in his infinite wisdom, because he knows, you know, cleaning

1078
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 4: up a very sharp chef's and I can be dangerous.

1079
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 4: Santa put in my stocking this awesome brush thing that's

1080
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: got like a plastic guard and on the insides bristle

1081
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 4: is just put a little soap in there and you

1082
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: just like it clean, safe, easy, And if I have

1083
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 4: multi lots of knives, I've used it every time since,

1084
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 4: Thank you Santa. Yesterday though, there was just one nighteknife

1085
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 4: and I had one knife in one bowl, so I'd

1086
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: already gotten the sponge all done on the bowl, so

1087
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'll just use a sponge of knife. Well,

1088
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 4: there was a thing that like stuck on it and

1089
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: I went to get it, and I don't know how

1090
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 4: it happened, but because the sponge was in this hand

1091
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: and it slipped and it came up like this and

1092
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 4: then it just went and so it's one of those

1093
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 4: things where you feel it and you're like, okay, I

1094
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 4: caught myself. It didn't feel that bad. And then you

1095
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 4: look down and this was like oh gosh, and I'm like,

1096
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 4: I think we need to go the r Yeah. I

1097
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 4: got paper towels and I got the bleeding the stop

1098
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: or whatever, and then it was like stopped. I'm like

1099
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 4: maybe we could just put band aids on it all

1100
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 4: the skin will come back really fine. But when I

1101
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 4: was at the at the ar and they did a

1102
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: great job there to Hoosiah, thank you, they were like, yeah,

1103
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: you needed to come in six stitches.

1104
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 2: So yeah significant, that's a significant. Yeah, very lucky though

1105
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: it could have been yeah, way worse. Yeah.

1106
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 4: And now just like I chop and I only use

1107
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 4: I use my gloves. Now I have a chopping glove,

1108
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 4: so that like the knife, and if you did what

1109
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 4: that way, like it just you won't cut your finger off.

1110
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: So now I got it. I'm gonna be buying that

1111
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: right now. Oh yeah Amazon, all right, I mean I'm

1112
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 2: gonna buy some chopping gloves.

1113
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: I need that because I'm always you're worried about it.

1114
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: I usually go like this, the worst case scenario, I flick.

1115
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: A knuckle off.

1116
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: Knuckle off.

1117
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds terrible.

1118
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 2: No, that's probably not fun.

1119
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 4: No, that's part thing about when you do that, think

1120
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: about though, there's not much there, so you have a

1121
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 4: chance to like, oh yeah, get in your bone and

1122
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 4: you could do some.

1123
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: Some major damage. And you do clean you can take

1124
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: it all the way off. Yeah, you could go here,

1125
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: you could have, like a double cut. Not great. Nobody

1126
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: wants a double cut. Nobody wants a double cut, not me.

1127
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: All right.

1128
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 3: One thought from every game this weekend. Hello, gibbe Hi boys. Uh,

1129
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: good news.

1130
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: Uh, there's five games to talk about. That's true. The

1131
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: bad news uh as uh.

1132
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 5: Nate mentioned one game not so great, one game, well,

1133
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 5: it was on. One game was greatly one.

1134
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: Who's Nate, Well, that's your off season name.

1135
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 3: No, it's not something if it was, that's a pretty

1136
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: funny line at a kid, like if the off season

1137
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 3: your Nate off season Nate.

1138
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: We're at the combine and in about six weeks and

1139
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: this is Nate. I like that person, different mentality.

1140
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 4: The only person that calls me Nate on a consistent

1141
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 4: basis still is my father, of course.

1142
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: Which is why you bristle the I love your father.

1143
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: Oh all right. One thought on every wild card game.

1144
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 5: Again, not a great weekend for football unfortunately in the

1145
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 5: National Football League.

1146
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 6: No. Uh.

1147
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 5: And we'll kick things off with the Saturday night affair

1148
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 5: on Peacock twenty three million.

1149
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: I believe it was funny guys missed this because it

1150
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: was your guys.

1151
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: You were doing our game, but they were promoting it

1152
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: as if sign up for this and be part of history,

1153
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 3: like you were watching like the Apollo launch, right, Like

1154
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: that's how they were selling it to us. And it's like, yeah, okay,

1155
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: me paying five bucks for another service.

1156
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: I was probably a.

1157
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 4: Few people had Peacock already though, So the NBC library,

1158
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 4: there's a ton of stuff on it, The WWE's on it.

1159
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1160
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: I just think there's a great deal of people in

1161
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: this country who aren't living in an app world still.

1162
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: I know that there it seems like everybody is, But

1163
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: I think there's still a lot of people, especially in

1164
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: rural areas, that don't have the internet speed necessary to

1165
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 3: stream sporting events.

1166
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: Correct. So that's the part that's you know that they

1167
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: so how many people do we know? Like if they

1168
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: twenty three millions, twenty three million? So that's that's what

1169
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: they announced Sunday night. Isn't that really good? Yeah? It's

1170
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 2: really good, the most to ever watch.

1171
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 3: They were trumpeting it on Sunday Night Football about how

1172
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: what a grand achievement it was, and it's.

1173
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 2: Like, okay, like yeah, but now we all have Peacock.

1174
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: Now everybody's got peacock, so or at least twenty three

1175
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: million people do.

1176
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, h experience the retention rate after, I'll end up forgetting.

1177
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: I got all sorts of apps I forget I even have.

1178
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 4: There's good stuff on Peacock though, especially the Boys, the

1179
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 4: rest and Catalog Forever.

1180
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll be fun. Everything. I had to get

1181
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: it for a Buckeye football game. I can't remember what game.

1182
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: It was in Michigan State or Maryland, I can't remember.

1183
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: My experience was Purdue. Okay, My experience was very choppy.

1184
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 3: When I first got into it, it was like the

1185
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 3: leos and slow motion. Yeah, it was like AOL dial

1186
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: up days, Yes, like play stop.

1187
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: Play those days.

1188
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: And then I exited out of it and I relaunched

1189
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: it and then it was smooth from that point on.

1190
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: But the initials kind of brutal.

1191
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 5: So the Chiefs in the one of the top five

1192
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 5: coldest games in NFL history, take down Miami twenty six

1193
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 5: to seven, Bishop one thought from you.

1194
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 3: Well, look this is one where there were there were

1195
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: two There were other than our game. There were two

1196
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 3: other one where I just had it completely wrong, and

1197
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: this was one of them. I had Kansas City winning

1198
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: the game.

1199
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: I just couldn't.

1200
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: I just felt to me like a sixteen thirteen game,

1201
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: and I thought Miami would show more. I thought they

1202
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: would be able to run it more. They really couldn't

1203
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: do anything offensively at all. Tyreek Hill being dominated the

1204
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: way that he was on the line of scrimmage by

1205
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 3: the Kansasia defensive backs was incredible. And then he kind

1206
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: of just took himself out of the game in the

1207
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: second half, like he just stopped playing in the second

1208
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: half of the game, which I thought was incredibly troublesome.

1209
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: It seemed pretty early that Miami didn't really want to

1210
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: have any interest in being there. I think the temperature

1211
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: probably had a lot to do with it. The most

1212
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: amazing thing that comes out of this is that for

1213
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: the first time, Patrick Mahomes will play a road playoff.

1214
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: Game Saturday or Sunday. Whenever they game is Sunday night,

1215
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: I guess whenever it is. That's amazing. Sunday six thirty

1216
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs at Bills. So there isn't Sunday Night football this week.

1217
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: No, that is Sunday Night CBS, Wow, ABC is Texans Ravens. Yeah,

1218
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 4: early window, then Packers Niners Fox. That's Saturday Night, Saturday

1219
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 4: Night Packers Niners.

1220
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: Beautiful that's gorgeous.

1221
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bucks, Leon's That's Afternoon Afternoon NBC and then CBS.

1222
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: CBS jumps into the primetime window.

1223
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 4: Yep.

1224
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was It was a that doesn't really

1225
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 3: do it justice. It could have been a lot worse

1226
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 3: than twenty six seven. There was a Kelsey had to

1227
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: drop at like the five that he walks in on

1228
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 3: a touchdown.

1229
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty wild.

1230
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 3: I also think it's amazing watching this game in thirty

1231
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: below wind Chill. It's amazing to me that the second

1232
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: you draft and realize what Patrick mahomes is, you don't

1233
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 3: start building a dome.

1234
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: To take full advantage of it. I mean, it's just

1235
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: it was crazy.

1236
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 4: It was gross.

1237
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: I feel like that fan base would fight you on it. Don't.

1238
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: I don't think they would. I think there's loud people

1239
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 3: that think that there were empty seats. Gibbe, did you

1240
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: see the swaths of empty seats in the upper deck.

1241
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was safe to sit out there. Got in

1242
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: for eight bucks into a into a playoff game and game.

1243
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 5: They were trotting out the NBC guys during our pregame show,

1244
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 5: collins Worth in God.

1245
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: There were three games played out Boy, and it was great.

1246
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just, by the way, biggest offseason decision maybe

1247
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 5: in Miami. So, what you're going to do with that

1248
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 5: quarterback situation? Because his fifth year option has been picked

1249
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 5: up twenty three million guaranteed, but nothing after that, what

1250
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 5: do you what do you do with that?

1251
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 4: I'll probably let him play it out and play for

1252
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 4: a contract.

1253
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, let him.

1254
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: I think that's probably exactly what they do, because there's

1255
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: not how could they dramatically upgrade it.

1256
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,479
Speaker 2: He was really good for a lot of this year. Yeah,

1257
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: you know, really good. Yeah. By the way, scores were unkind.

1258
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: We got the spirit of it right, four out of two,

1259
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 3: four out of six, we had the right result, just

1260
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 3: didn't get the necessary score.

1261
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: We were four and two against the money line. Yeah,

1262
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: two and four with her. Yeah.

1263
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 5: Spread up next, guys, the game that I knocked out

1264
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 5: of the park with my prediction all week so bold.

1265
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 8: Uh.

1266
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 5: The Packers take down the Cowboys forty eight to thirty two.

1267
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 5: Jerald World Again three straight years McCarthy and company double

1268
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 5: digit wins, can't get out of the first round or

1269
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 5: their first playoff game. Uh, off season Nate one thought

1270
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 5: from you, all right, I'll stop doing it. I had

1271
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 5: to do it one more time. This one exactly as

1272
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 5: we thought, and exactly Gibbe did not thought. Yeah, this

1273
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 5: one did. Bo and I both had green Bay. I

1274
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 5: know you were like, no, this is the one lock

1275
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 5: of the week.

1276
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: It was the Gibbe give me lock lock of the week, NotI.

1277
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 5: I think.

1278
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: I think changes are.

1279
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 4: A coming and I think you're gonna see both McCarthy

1280
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 4: and series fired.

1281
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 3: Well, yes, I agree with you on both fronts. This

1282
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: was such spectacular failure.

1283
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 2: They'd won sixteen in a row at home. Yeah, it

1284
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: was just and you know, we used to have a

1285
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: little fun because of the obviously his last names Laflour

1286
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: and used Peter Lafleur, dodgeball all that. My guy can

1287
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: coach it.

1288
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,479
Speaker 3: He can flat coach it and loves good. He loves

1289
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: really good. But he wasn't really good. They've coached him

1290
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 3: into this spot. Remember how he was early in the year.

1291
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: There was times he was dreadful. I was like, fantasy good,

1292
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 3: and then it was like and then he became football good.

1293
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 3: Is this season when along he became football good and

1294
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: Laflora can flat out coach it. He kind of rejuvenated

1295
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: Rogers at the end there where Rogers stacked up another

1296
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 3: couple MVPs under his tuteligion and obviously now that we

1297
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 3: see with the full Rogers experience, as he put up

1298
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: with a lot, and now he's got love playing it

1299
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: this way and their future is as bright as possibly

1300
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: can be.

1301
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 5: And I feel like America might be rooting. And I

1302
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 5: know they're playing your forty nine ers this week, but

1303
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 5: I think America is rooting for this. To shut up

1304
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers.

1305
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: Well it's yeah, it's not a great argument on his

1306
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: behalf that they're playing without him. So, but the Dallas

1307
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 3: failures are just unbelievable. I you know, like Jara's had

1308
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 3: so many runs at this thing with teams and like.

1309
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: It's not a lack of talent. Here's the thing that

1310
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: was weird to me.

1311
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 3: Dak had a couple had one of the worst interceptions

1312
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: I've ever seen, like a veteran quarterback.

1313
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 4: Have He had some bad ones, but I just felt

1314
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 4: like early in the game, like he was kind of

1315
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 4: just missing Ceedee Lamb or the ball go off of

1316
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 4: his like fingertips and like Ceedee Lamb had to get it.

1317
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: Felt like they were immaturely tense the pressure of it. Yeah, yeah,

1318
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 2: not Green Bay. Love is good.

1319
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 3: He is good, and their weapons are better. Then people

1320
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 3: realize their defense is decent.

1321
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 4: The first one, he threw it to Romeo Dobbs on

1322
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 4: that opening drive where he just dropped back and just

1323
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 4: flicked it out there thirty five yards like nothing. I

1324
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 4: was like, this guy's I remember watching that pittsburghame that

1325
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 4: had to be first half of the season, and I

1326
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know, this guy is good, Like

1327
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 4: they are going.

1328
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: To be good. He looks good. Yeah he does.

1329
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 6: So.

1330
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: I think.

1331
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 5: They have a potential out with Dak, but I mean

1332
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 5: he still has three years and supposedly one hundred and

1333
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 5: twenty six million left.

1334
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 2: On his cap. I don't think. I think not. He's

1335
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: not going anywhere, Dak.

1336
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 6: No.

1337
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: But and there they will.

1338
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: They will get rid of McCarthy and they will try

1339
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: to go in another direction. They have a ton of

1340
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: free agents, but they have parsons as locked in and

1341
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: lead ceedee lamb.

1342
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: They got. They'll be fun. Yeah, yeah, they need but

1343
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: it'll be a new new regime. Up next, the best

1344
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: game of the weekend. Thank god. I just hung out

1345
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: and watched this all Sunday night. I needed this one.

1346
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: This is fun.

1347
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 5: Leon's twenty four Rams twenty three the Leon tail of

1348
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 5: two halves, all offense in the first half, all defense

1349
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 5: in the second half.

1350
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 2: Bishop.

1351
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: I think it was storybook in every way because Stafford

1352
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 3: was a warrior.

1353
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: My guy was a warrior in this game. He had

1354
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: a bloodied hand.

1355
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 3: He took a brutal hit, a brutal double hit where

1356
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: he hit got hit at the ribs, got hit in

1357
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: the head, and battled back from that. He was sensational

1358
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: in the game. They just couldn't score in the red

1359
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 3: zone in the first half, and it was too much

1360
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: to overcome. And it was storybooking that he played great

1361
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: and yet Detroit won. Detroit got to have they got

1362
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 3: to win, and one of their most beloved players ever

1363
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 3: was great as an opponent. And you've got the embrace

1364
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 3: between him and golf like it's such You've been a

1365
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 3: golf guy for a long time. But I've been a

1366
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 3: big supporter of him. I always thought he did not

1367
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 3: get the respect he deserved for the time that he

1368
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: was in with the Rams. And he's much better than

1369
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: people realized. Wasn't like Darnold and your off the scrap

1370
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: heap like a super Bowl. He's a dude, Yes, and

1371
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 3: it's you know, the other thing is it's a little

1372
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 3: bit of a it's kind of the perfect mix up

1373
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 3: there of of andalytics and that they are incredibly aggressive

1374
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 3: on fourth downs and the way to go about game management,

1375
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 3: but also like kind of guts on how they put

1376
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: the team together, like first round picks on running backs

1377
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 3: and tight ends and off ball linebackers, and it all worked.

1378
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: You gotta give them credit. It all worked totally.

1379
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 4: And again this was this was everything you wanted got

1380
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 4: twenty two to twenty seven, two seventy seven a touchdown,

1381
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 4: ten point three yards per attempt, Stafford twenty five to

1382
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 4: thirty six, three sixty seven, two touchdowns, ten yards per attempt.

1383
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 4: I mean, they were both spectacular.

1384
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: This was just a couldn't finish it inside the red

1385
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 2: zone in the second half. That was really it.

1386
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 4: That was the difference in the game red zone efficiency.

1387
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 4: The Lions were three for three Rams zero for three,

1388
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 4: and that was ultimately the difference in this game.

1389
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: I thought it was a great game. I thought both

1390
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: teams looked good.

1391
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 4: I think that I think the Lions probably feel pretty

1392
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 4: good about what's their matchup in the next round. And

1393
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 4: I think it's setting up for Lions Niners, which would

1394
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 4: be a ton of fund goff Bay area kit Cali kid,

1395
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 4: where he played his college football at Cal Berkeley, would

1396
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 4: be pretty neat him coming there. Obviously still work to

1397
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 4: be done, but this game was everything I wanted to be.

1398
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 4: This was the one game I was most excited for.

1399
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 4: It delivered on the play level, on the emotional level,

1400
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 4: on the guys that were the principals in this trade.

1401
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 4: I mean, this game comes down to, by the way,

1402
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 4: a kind of a ballsy call. Second and eight. They

1403
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 4: let GoF throw it. If it was an incompletion, you

1404
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 4: never know. I still think mcveisho had taken his time

1405
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 4: out of two minutes and thirty seconds, yes, but for

1406
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 4: the two minute warning. I don't understand the thought process

1407
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 4: on doing that. And he made that great throat on'm

1408
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 4: on Rossaint Brown to ice the game. I mean that

1409
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 4: was it was kind of turned into like Steve Smith,

1410
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,959
Speaker 4: I want rous Saint Brown's a stud.

1411
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean Steve Smith's a study. That's

1412
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 3: kind of what he kind of has the same build

1413
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 3: of physicality.

1414
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's his first team All Pro.

1415
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know you, and he ultimately thanks to Dallas

1416
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 5: for choking, like the ge they get a.

1417
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 2: Home game this weekend. Yeah, yep.

1418
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 4: I love how they called out to on the broadcast,

1419
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 4: the guy like, it's not Bobby cart Junior, but it

1420
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 4: was like Bobby Capp or something like that, who had

1421
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 4: been a season ticket holder for sixty years, and you

1422
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 4: could tell he'd seen some things that were not so

1423
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 4: pleasant and then he got to have his moment. Turka

1424
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 4: kept giving him a little shout out.

1425
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 5: It was a moment for Turiico too though, I mean

1426
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 5: he lives in Yeah, oh yeah, you know, this game

1427
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 5: was perfect.

1428
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 4: It was the perfect game of the weekend. I hope

1429
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 4: this weekend is better. You have two I think two

1430
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 4: pretty big numbers out there for this week.

1431
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 2: We don't have to do guess the spaces because saw

1432
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: him when we were looking at the networks. We can

1433
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: do it anyway.

1434
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll be hopefully. Who knows, the line might

1435
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 4: change by tomorrow. It might not even be accurate, but

1436
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 4: I just want that's what you want, good tense fourth

1437
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 4: quarter football, and you only got that in one game.

1438
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 4: Our game was over, the Chiefs game was over, the

1439
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 4: Packers game was over, the bill Steelers, I guess wasn't over,

1440
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 4: but it was kind of felt it never felt like

1441
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 4: we're there, we are there now.

1442
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 5: Buffalo thirty one, Pittspuke seven team. I thought it was

1443
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 5: a bogus roughing the passer penalty in the fourth quarter

1444
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 5: late that led to that Bill's final touchdown. That was

1445
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 5: the difference in the game. So to be honest, I.

1446
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 3: Mean, Buffalo is never gonna lose this game. No, they

1447
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 3: were never gonna lose it. No, it was just a

1448
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 3: matter of the margin. And they were good enough to

1449
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 3: us that they took care of the margin. One of

1450
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 3: the few that did. We thank you very much. I

1451
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 3: think the one thing that I think is really tricky

1452
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: is the I mean, this was a really rough weekend

1453
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 3: for the officials. So on the Allen run, the fifty

1454
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 3: two yard touchdown run, he is it's the picket play right,

1455
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 3: like he's simulating like he's going to slide and the

1456
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 3: defense stands up because you can't hit him or you're

1457
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 3: gonna ad fifteen yards to it, and instead of sliding,

1458
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 3: he just bursts through as they all slow up.

1459
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 2: Is that what we want?

1460
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 6: No?

1461
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 4: It's interesting. So I was only watching that on my

1462
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 4: phone and I was actually I think being stitched at

1463
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 4: that very moment, so I didn't see it through that lens.

1464
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 4: I thought he kind of slowed down to pick a

1465
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 4: spot and then just took off.

1466
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 2: He slowed down to start to slide. I mean he

1467
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: looked like he was gonna slide.

1468
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And as he did so, the Steelers stood up

1469
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 3: like okay, like we're gonna hit him, and had fifteen

1470
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 3: yards to this and he just sprinted.

1471
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: Through as they stood up.

1472
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 4: And he's a weapon. And one of the things after

1473
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 4: watching the two games yesterday that I came away.

1474
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 6: With is.

1475
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 4: He's a weapon as a runner. I think it a

1476
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 4: carries thventy four yards in touchdown. He obviously can throw

1477
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 4: it very effectively. And it gets to the next game,

1478
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 4: is Jalen Hurts was so effective because of how well

1479
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 4: he ran and.

1480
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 2: He didn't run.

1481
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 4: I think he ran one time in that game, sure

1482
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 4: for like five yards like that in the playoffs and

1483
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're the commentary, I was pretty

1484
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 4: dialed because otherwise it was in the middle of chaos.

1485
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 4: But they had talked about how Allen's rushing attempts ramped

1486
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 4: up at the end of the season to prepare for

1487
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 4: the playoffs. They're going to use his legs a lot

1488
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 4: more when they need to. And I thought that was

1489
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 4: a pretty cool, good note, good find by their stats department.

1490
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 4: And then and you could see when they needed something,

1491
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 4: they were like, all right, we're gonna we're running with

1492
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 4: the big fellow.

1493
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: If they don't win it, if they don't win the AFC,

1494
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 3: now they may never like this is it. They get

1495
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 3: Kansas City at home. Baltimore's got the same playoff stuff

1496
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 3: they do. They've been at the bats, like, they got

1497
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 3: to beat Kansas City at home this weekend.

1498
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 2: They have to. This is the year. I know they

1499
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 2: got a ton of injuries, everybody does, but jeez, got

1500
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: to be now for them.

1501
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, up next Final one Monday Night foosball, Tampa Bay

1502
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 5: thirty two, Eagles nine. I don't even know where to

1503
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 5: begin on this. I don't know what happened with the Eagles.

1504
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 4: This is another one of those that was definitely closer

1505
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 4: than the score indicated.

1506
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: It was a one score game.

1507
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, until and then I forgot how to tackle again.

1508
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 4: Well you have that you go for two when you

1509
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 4: had just kicked it and been down six. It's like,

1510
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 4: what was the point of getting to fire? I don't

1511
01:11:58,439 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 4: even understand the line.

1512
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,560
Speaker 3: Makes sense, like just of course you just get it

1513
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 3: to six, right, It's so stupid, I know, nonsense.

1514
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 4: I thought that was pretty crazy. This was a game,

1515
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 4: and Baker's been in two of these games. I don't

1516
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 4: know if you guys remember. I want to say it

1517
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 4: was maybe Christmas time a year ago against Denver when

1518
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 4: he was with the Rams and Denver had been a

1519
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 4: good defense, and then they came into that game and like,

1520
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 4: did not try, did not tackle, did not rush quarterback,

1521
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 4: nobody covered anybody to give I think fifty or something

1522
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 4: to the Rams, and everybody got fired. Yeah, this watching

1523
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 4: this did not feel like a playoff game from the Eagles.

1524
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 4: It felt like a game where everybody on the Eagles

1525
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 4: was trying to get their coaches fired.

1526
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 2: It definitely did.

1527
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 4: I mean the safety Jalen Hurts suck from the fourteen

1528
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 4: was one of the worst safeties I've ever seen.

1529
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what he's doing. The tackling was

1530
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: just laughable.

1531
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 3: You had I flipped over to Manning cast so I

1532
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 3: saw them with Bruce arians and then with this ray Lewis.

1533
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 4: Ray Lewis was in sense not so their touchdowns one

1534
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 4: was a fifty six yard The first one was a

1535
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 4: forty four yarder. On plays that should have gone for

1536
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 4: six yards, yeah, ten yards, yes, wild fifteen.

1537
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 3: If we're getting crazy, I said this, I've said this

1538
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 3: couple of limes in the off season about hurts. He

1539
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 3: needed to have an he needed to stack it. And

1540
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 3: the reality is is you're gonna get figured out a

1541
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 3: little bit. Your offen is gonna figured out. I think

1542
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: you're as stoote to bring out Stike in the fact

1543
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 3: that he's not there. I'm sure that's a.

1544
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 2: Huge part of it. But where's the designed runs for him? Well,

1545
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: here's what I'm getting. Where's it at.

1546
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 3: I think that you cannot understand. You can't overestimate the

1547
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 3: beating he takes. Yes, not just last year with designed run,

1548
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 3: but every time they do that tush push.

1549
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: He is getting pounded on that play, by the way pounded.

1550
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 4: They ripped his head off that How was that not

1551
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 4: a penalty? They were literally pulled him back. I think

1552
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 4: people are so sick.

1553
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: Of the play that they just let anything go on it.

1554
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 3: But he takes a bludgeoning in that and he's not healthy,

1555
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 3: He's not right, and I think it affects the way

1556
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 3: he plays the position, and I think that's what you

1557
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 3: saw in Philly is that but it was so gutless.

1558
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: I agree with you. It seems like they want out

1559
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 2: of that operation.

1560
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 4: In twenty two, he averaged eight yards in attempt sixty

1561
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 4: seven percent completions, twenty two touchdowns, six picks. He ran

1562
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 4: it one hundred and sixty five times for seven hundred

1563
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 4: and sixty yards and thirteen touchdowns.

1564
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 5: This year, his first run last night wasn't until the

1565
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 5: third quarter, was for five yards fifteen years or fourth

1566
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 5: quarter it was a fifteen yard run called back on

1567
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 5: a holding PA.

1568
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 2: This year he was down a full yard per attempt

1569
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: sixty five percent.

1570
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 4: Passing. His rating was way way down because he threw

1571
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 4: fifteen picks instead of six. Rushing attempts were similar. In attempts,

1572
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 4: he averaged three point eight five yards of carry. That's

1573
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 4: probably way down by the tush push. Fifteen touchdowns, thirty

1574
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 4: five yards per game rushing.

1575
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. They just the whole stuff that was

1576
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 2: going on with AJ Brown seemed very weird.

1577
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 4: They just we were just going through the motions. Defensive

1578
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 4: They looked pretty good when we went there, but they changed.

1579
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 4: Remember they brought in to sigh and said you're out.

1580
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna play this.

1581
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 4: There he is man the Gray b Lynch, And then

1582
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 4: they're gonna bring in Patricia and he's gonna start playing

1583
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 4: all these like zone drops for their pastor.

1584
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 2: It was like so weird. Why did they just not

1585
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 2: keep going with de si Yeah, it was so strange.

1586
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: And they were so good in the game against Kansas City,

1587
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: like that was like their super Bowl.

1588
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: When they won in Kansas City, they were ten and one.

1589
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 3: Were ten and one at that time, and then they

1590
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: got boat raced a lot down the stretch.

1591
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 4: So their record down this them and the Jags were

1592
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 4: like the two worst teams in the league down the stretch.

1593
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 4: I felt it was funny going in the game. We

1594
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 4: did the scores on what Thursday taped it? Yeah, we

1595
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 4: did Thursday. By the time that game kicked off, I

1596
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 4: was a billion percent for the Bucks were gonna win?

1597
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: Did seem that way? Did like a billion percent? I

1598
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 2: was like, Yeah, this was not they stink they do.

1599
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,360
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Speaker 3: And now let's head to the podium from Sunday, Kevin

1616
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Speaker 3: Stefanski's speaking to the media.

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Speaker 7: Okay, these days, as we know, are no fun, just

1618
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 7: meeting with the players, and it's very abrupt when when

1619
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 7: the season ends and you know, all our guys really

1620
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 7: put in so much work and not be playing any

1621
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 7: more games. That's tough. That's hard for our guys and

1622
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 7: hard for us as coaches. So you know that's the

1623
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 7: immediate emotions and the first thing you think about when

1624
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 7: you wake up on a day like this, and then

1625
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 7: you also have to step back and you know, express

1626
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 7: gratitude because I am extremely grateful for this football team.

1627
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 7: You know, they work like crazy, they put they did

1628
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 7: everything I asked me to do, really going all the

1629
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 7: way back to April, and they fought for each other.

1630
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 7: You know, I think those are a bunch of guys

1631
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 7: that care about each other. And I think you saw

1632
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 7: that throughout this season and just the things that they

1633
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 7: went through and kept coming back. So I'm really proud

1634
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 7: of his football team. Again, disappointed in how it ended,

1635
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 7: of course, disappointed when it ends, but I don't want

1636
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 7: to lose sight of the accomplishments of this football team,

1637
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 7: and I give them a ton of credit for that.

1638
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 7: But with that, I'll take any questions.

1639
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 2: Kind of the buy and that you have this year.

1640
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 7: You know, everybody's sort of pulling the rope, you know,

1641
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,759
Speaker 7: in the same same diression, whatever, you you know, cliche

1642
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 7: you want to use.

1643
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 2: How difficult is that to replicate?

1644
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 7: You know, because it's not going to be the same

1645
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,560
Speaker 7: group next year necessarily, How do you how do you

1646
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 7: try to replicate that? Yeah, I mean, every year is different,

1647
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 7: as you mentioned, Chris, I mean the players are always

1648
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 7: different and that's the that's the NFL. It's never the

1649
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 7: same ever, so you treat each year differently. I would

1650
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 7: tell you the core of this football team, the guys

1651
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 7: that we know are coming back, are are guys that

1652
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 7: represent who we are. You know, that understand what they

1653
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 7: need to do on a day to day basis to

1654
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 7: be great. So we're excited about that. But bottom line is,

1655
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,759
Speaker 7: when you're talking about the locker room, it's the people.

1656
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,560
Speaker 7: It is just the people in that locker room, and

1657
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 7: I feel strongly about the people.

1658
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 6: Spoken to de Seawan and rolling it forward a little bit.

1659
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 7: Are you confident he's going to be ready for the

1660
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 7: start of the season.

1661
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,520
Speaker 2: Can you give us any update whatsoever.

1662
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 7: On his reapp Yeah, he's doing great and rehab. I'm

1663
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 7: confident he'll be ready to roll this spring. You know,

1664
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 7: he's uh, he's chomping at the bit, but he's he's

1665
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 7: doing everything he's supposed to do when it comes to

1666
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 7: what the doctors are telling him and as he rehabs

1667
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 7: through this, but he'll be ready to roll. You think

1668
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 7: Kevin the injury is really just caught up to you yesterday. Yeah,

1669
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 7: we just didn't play well yesterday. We didn't coach well enough.

1670
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 2: Jeff.

1671
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 7: I know you can point to injuries. I think every

1672
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 7: team could point to injuries, but we just we didn't

1673
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 7: do the things you have to do to win on

1674
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 7: the road. Pretty simple where you see flat go and

1675
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 7: Watson coexistence. Yeah, I'd leave all those things up to

1676
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 7: obviously Andrew in this offseason. I will say this about Joe.

1677
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 7: Joe was awesome for this football team. He did a

1678
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 7: great job, battled like crazy. I know he enjoyed it.

1679
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 7: What we you know, we obviously wish yesterday's outcome was different,

1680
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 7: but you know, I have a ton of respect for

1681
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 7: Joe and what he was able to do.

1682
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 2: Love Kevin that all your coaches will be back.

1683
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're evaluating everything right now, Tony. The

1684
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 7: other thing is, you know is some guys will get

1685
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 7: opportunities over the next couple of weeks, so we'll see

1686
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 7: how it all shakes out.

1687
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 2: It's about Joel but Tonia.

1688
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 6: We saw him in there with a boot at his

1689
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 6: right angle.

1690
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:22,480
Speaker 7: You said he's playing a high angle spring yesterday. He's unbelievable.

1691
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 7: He's unbelievable and That's kind of what I was talking

1692
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 7: about earlier when you talk about guys fighting for each other.

1693
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 7: He did not have to go back in that game

1694
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 7: with a high ankle spring, and most people couldn't and

1695
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 7: most people wouldn't, and he was not going to let

1696
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 7: his guys down. He battled to the end. He'll he'll

1697
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 7: rest up and heal up. And but he's you know,

1698
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 7: he's a quintessential, you know, teammate. That's that's what we're

1699
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 7: talking about when you talk about the Cleveland Browns. Guys

1700
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,799
Speaker 7: that will do anything and everything they can for their teammate.

1701
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 6: And you got him in the playoffs in twenty twenty,

1702
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 6: and I think there's.

1703
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 2: Always from that outside perspective line.

1704
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 1: And now we go hap it again and it took you.

1705
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 6: A couple of years to kind of get back. How

1706
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 6: do you protect from that mindset sort of setting it

1707
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 6: in of like, oh, yeah, we'll be back next year

1708
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 6: and kind of keep working. Is it as simple as

1709
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 6: just usually last night as.

1710
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 7: An example, Well, yeah, And you know, I think our

1711
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 7: guys know that in the NFL is set up that

1712
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 7: way where you see new teams in the playoffs every

1713
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:24,480
Speaker 7: single year, So you know, our goal is to win championships.

1714
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 7: That's every all thirty two clubs you know, talk about that.

1715
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 7: So when you get back, you start putting the work

1716
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 7: in to set yourself up for those type of things.

1717
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: But we know that all of that is earned.

1718
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 7: When you talk about playoffs and you talk about putting

1719
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 7: yourself in position to win championships.

1720
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 4: Well, but and this might be a little philosophical, but

1721
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 4: when they do we when guys have who had an

1722
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,759
Speaker 4: attack end up moving on, what do they leave.

1723
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 6: With the team for the next year.

1724
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. We I was just talking

1725
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 7: to one of our players about a guy like Malcolm

1726
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 7: Smith played a couple of years for US at linebacker

1727
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 7: and had a huge impact and maybe didn't show up

1728
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 7: on the stat sheet all the time, but he had

1729
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 7: a huge impact on that young linebacker room. So, uh,

1730
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 7: there's always guys that you wish you could bring back,

1731
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 7: you know, everybody and guys are there's different opportunities and

1732
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Speaker 7: those type of things, but you do learn from a

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Speaker 7: lot of veterans that you bring into your program.

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Speaker 2: And now Ben felt need to go back into the

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01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 2: lab of the spring with Walks so much he did

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 7: I think every spring you have to do that. I

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01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 7: really do, Tony, because the game is changing, the NFL

1739
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 7: continues to evolve year to year. I say this all

1740
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 7: the time, but you put on tape from ten years ago,

1741
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 7: it doesn't doesn't look the same. So you're always trying

1742
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 7: to stay ahead of the curve as much as you can. So, yeah,

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01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 7: I think all three sides of the ball. You got

1744
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,799
Speaker 7: to go into the lab and you're talking about.

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01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: Guys who have opportunities. Cream Hunt to talk today about

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01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: protection an opportunity, but you know, obviously this is home. Yeah,

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01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: did he have more left than you guys thought, considering

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01:22:59,120 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 2: he wasn't with you?

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Speaker 6: Guys?

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01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: Things leave you guys have touchdowns.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'll say this about Kareem. I'm so appreciative of

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 7: him and the way he played, in the style with

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01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 7: which he played. You know, obviously pre injury to Nick,

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01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 7: we didn't have a spot. But to Kareem's credit, he

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01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 7: stayed in great shape. We brought him in, worked him out,

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01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 7: He looked great, picked up this, picked back up the

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01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 7: system right away and played really good football for us

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01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 7: and made plays in high leverage moments and scored touchdowns

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01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 7: and obviously yesterday, you know, having the ability to make

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01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 7: a playoff in the goal line, make a play in

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Speaker 7: the red zone. So he provided a huge, huge value

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01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 7: for us. And you know, just he's he's a battler.

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01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 7: Love the way he runs, the style with which he

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01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,839
Speaker 7: runs gave us a huge jolt that we needed.

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Speaker 6: Help for Miles to be you know, for Defensive Player

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Speaker 6: of the Year. A couple of weeks ago. He started

1767
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,839
Speaker 6: off with thirteen sacks and just you know, couldn't be stopped.

1768
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 6: What happened, you know, the last six seven games.

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Speaker 2: With just one static.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would caution you to judge too much of

1771
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 7: defensive football off of sacks. I think that can be

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01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,919
Speaker 7: really dangerous just to look at sacks. I think pressures

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01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 7: are really the thing that you're you want to look

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01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 7: at and affecting the quarterback. And you know, with Miles,

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01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 7: the other unique thing about him, as you guys know,

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01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 7: teams do everything in their power to make sure he

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01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 7: doesn't make those disruptive plays. So he's getting a tight end,

1778
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 7: he's getting the line of sliding to him, they're running

1779
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 7: away from him, those.

1780
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: Type of things.

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01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 7: But if you just look at his impact, and particularly

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01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 7: if you want to use pressure rate, I think that's

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01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 7: something you can look at but if you look at

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01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,440
Speaker 7: his impact overall, it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go, there's coach. Still so much

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01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 2: more to come in this time. I actually mean it.

1787
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 2: You listen to Cleveland Runs Daily.

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Speaker 2: All right, time for your great clip of the game,

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01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: presented by Great Clips. It's gonna be great. Here is

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01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 2: uh I believe this is Jim's call of Kareem Yep.

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01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 8: Second down waiting on the staff. He's got a straight

1795
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 8: drop shovel pass. Here comes Hot hit ten to the

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01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 8: five pays in touchdown. Give Kareem Hot a pair of

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Speaker 8: touchdowns in this playoff game.

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Speaker 2: It up rounds lead again and there was God, that

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01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:32,839
Speaker 2: was so much hopeful.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we were, you answered, and then their very

1801
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 4: next play was the seventy six yard catch and run touchdown.

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01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then it was like, good lord, we'd have

1803
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 2: to chase this the whole game. Can we keep up

1804
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 2: with it? And that's the answer is no, you could not. Yeah.

1805
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 3: Did you guys see the comments over the weekend from

1806
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 3: Kelly Stafford on some of the things were said to

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 3: her kids at the Detroit game.

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01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: No, because that's gonna make me sad. I think it is.

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01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 3: But it comes on the heels of did you see

1810
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 3: the Jerry Ryan Doorf's stuff with Chicago with his widow?

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01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 2: I did? Okay, did you see this Reinzorff's wife?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 3: So the Bulls did their first over ring of honor,

1814
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 3: and so Jerry Reinsdorf went in. He was a general

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Speaker 3: manager of those teams, and he should and I don't

1816
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 3: need everybody who knows Reinsdorf knows the history, knows that

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01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 3: the history is written by Jordan and views him as

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Speaker 3: the worst. Right, Yeah, so Jordan was there, Pippin wasn't

1819
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 3: there going in again, all of them went into their

1820
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 3: first rings.

1821
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 2: They were all going in, but none of them were there.

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01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 4: They didn't show up. No, So that's crazy.

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01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 3: So Reinsdorf passed in like eighteen, right, but he's still

1824
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 3: public enemy number one in Chicago. So they put his

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01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,440
Speaker 3: picture up on the big screen and they bow him viciously,

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01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 3: loudly and viciously, and then they cut to an image

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01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 3: of his widow who's at the game and distraught that

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01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 3: her deceased husband is being booed as you would be.

1829
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 3: This is not on the fans, this is on the organization.

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01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 3: You know the krous is going to be booed. You

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01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 3: have got to the word out that his widow is

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01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 3: going to be there so that they know there's a

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01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 3: context that his widow will be representing Jerry some class,

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01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 3: Jerry Krause. Let's have a little bit of class here.

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01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 3: And instead none of it happened. So if you put

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01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 3: if the first thing you see is his image on

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01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 3: the screen, you're gonna hear the booing.

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01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that. In Chicago, how do you do that?

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01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 3: They enter that in same thing with Kelly Stafford, like

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01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 3: the girls have jackets on that say Detroit Bourne, La Raised.

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01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: That is going to bristle everybody in Detroit.

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01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 3: Matt Stafford, as much as they appreciate him, love him,

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01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 3: all of those things, he's public getting many number one

1844
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 3: in a playoff game in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Like, what do you think was going to happen?

1846
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm sure there are plenty of people like I

1847
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 4: hope he plays well, but we win, which is which

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01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 4: is what happened exactly why it was a storybook.

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01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, just communicate and then have some sense on the

1850
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 3: on the PSOE, on the bull sense communicated.

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01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 2: And they also should have made a video.

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01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 4: They should have said prior to the video, like something

1853
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 4: like tonight, you know we're inducting blah blah blah, his

1854
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 4: widow is in attendance, here's a video, and now a video.

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Speaker 6: Have it be.

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01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if it makes a difference.

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01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 4: He's the one that you know, brought you, He's the

1858
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 4: one that brought you this blah blah blah, the good,

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01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 4: the good.

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01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 2: What what needed to happen was.

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Speaker 5: Like promoting going that he you know, his widow was

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01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 5: going to be there, that we're celebrating the architect, the

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01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 5: guy that put it together. Forget about what happened at

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01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 5: the end, but the guy that built the dynasty and.

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Speaker 2: That and that that she was there.

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01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if if the fans know she's there,

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01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 3: it's not quite as vitriology as it was because they

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01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 3: just saw his image and booed like crazy.

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Speaker 2: It was just heartbreaking. You have to have some sense

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01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 2: on these things now, So much more to come. Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Here's your latest example of Kyle Shanahan being a gangster.

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01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 3: He's available today in San Francisco, and he said they

1876
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 3: started preparing for Green Bay in the second quarter, kind

1877
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:10,520
Speaker 3: of insinuating.

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01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: I know how this ends. How about this?

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Speaker 5: Forty nine ers at one o'clock today Eastern Time dropped

1880
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Speaker 5: their hype video.

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01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, guess who is featured? S Young?

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Speaker 5: The voice and the image, the voice of Steve Young,

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01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 5: a angelic. Why do they besmirch Steve Young?

1884
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 2: Sixteen? Everybody? Let me tell you something.

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01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 4: You go around, everybody's got Montana jerseys on their wall.

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01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 4: Nobody has a Steve Young jersey on the wall.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a generational thing, a younger generation. Steve Young

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Speaker 3: is there, Joe Montana, he won one Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

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