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Speaker 1: a exciting, wild, enlightening slate of Sunday games in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna start with four big takeaways from Sunday

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Speaker 1: offense had any trouble with the Bears defense, and they

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Speaker 1: did well. Vick Boio is a great coordinator. I mean

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Speaker 1: maybe that's he can make chicken feet out of chicken whatever.

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Speaker 1: So you get John Fox out. Whatever goes. You know

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Speaker 1: who has a great life out of nowhere, now, James Jones. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it goes from football purgatory to now, let's let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: He stays healthy. He's almost now a locknow for ten

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Speaker 1: to twelve touchdowns. Clearly shows can still play and has chemistry.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to relevance, James. Patriots, bring back your former

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Speaker 1: players that can't make it anywhere else. They come plug

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Speaker 1: back in. They have a great season to make a

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Speaker 1: ton of all. The giants are cool, you know they

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Speaker 1: have Dwayne Harris and and what is their other Jeremy

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Speaker 1: Davis Preston Parker. Who would need James Jones? All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get Let's get West. Is hard to flutter now

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Speaker 1: and talk about Marcus Mariota who threw four touchdown passes

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Speaker 1: and just three in completions? What am I reading that right? Greg?

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Speaker 1: That's correct? Okay, easily upstaging number one overall pick Jamis

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Speaker 1: Winston and the Titans win over the Bucks and Tampa. Greg,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to the US. Joe Hart is a flutter.

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Speaker 1: That's a fair statement. Boy. On prom night, I didn't

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Speaker 1: go to prom. You're going to prom with someone named Marcus? Yes, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you think the Bucks are having some draft remorse right now?

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Speaker 1: Are don't you? Drafters remorse? Well? I said, anyone in

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Speaker 1: the crowd there half to be having it, because here's

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Speaker 1: a week one. Let's go watch our face of the franchise,

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Speaker 1: new number one pick throw a pick six in his

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Speaker 1: first NFL passed that you know, not exactly the start

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Speaker 1: you're looking for. And then on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the ball, let's look at the number two pick put

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Speaker 1: up four touchdowns in half. They're not gonna come to

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Speaker 1: any games the rest of the season. That seriously, that

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Speaker 1: is a team that struggles to sell tickets. That is,

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Speaker 1: if you try to create the most deflating situation possible

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Speaker 1: for Week one, that's it. Well, bar barring an injury.

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Speaker 1: This was absolute rock bottom where your guy stinks it up,

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Speaker 1: the other guy plays like evolutionary Joe Montana and West

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Speaker 1: who was sitting across from me giggling like a schoolgirl.

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Speaker 1: He was so excited. I do think he is a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not saying he's got the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: mojo in the game winning drives of Joe Montana. Who

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Speaker 1: knows if that's gonna happen, But in the preseason as

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Speaker 1: footwork reminded me of Joe Montana, and he had a

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Speaker 1: much quicker release today than I expected, lightning quick release

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Speaker 1: on a lot of these run option plays that they

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Speaker 1: ran at Oregon and the Chip Kelly runs. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: for this team. There was there was a point I

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Speaker 1: kind of felt like the football gods were really against

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Speaker 1: Winston and for Mariota in this game, because you know,

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Speaker 1: Mariota threw one pass right into a defensive lineman's belly

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Speaker 1: that could have maybe even a pick six, you know,

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Speaker 1: fell on the ground. He fumbled the ball at the

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Speaker 1: one yard line and it was recovered by the other team,

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Speaker 1: but they decided that the play was dead, which was

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Speaker 1: a very questionable call. Whereas Winston he throws a pick

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Speaker 1: six on his first pass. It was a terrible decision,

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Speaker 1: and he throws another interception where a defensive lineman makes

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Speaker 1: an amazing leaping catch. I actually saw a couple of

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Speaker 1: good things out of Winston, but the score was the

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Speaker 1: score was seven before you blinked, and I just thought,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter how well Jamis Winston plays. The

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Speaker 1: offensive line is so bad and the Bucks defense is

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Speaker 1: even worse than like he's got be in a lot

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Speaker 1: of these games. The question for you, let's say you

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Speaker 1: put Marcus Mariota behind that line in Tampa Bay with

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Speaker 1: Lovey Smith, who doesn't develop quarterbacks as your head coach.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's a different situation. But Winston is

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Speaker 1: going to throw those interceptions. He did it in college. Mark,

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Speaker 1: by the way, brings up a lovely Smith who is

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Speaker 1: coach what seventeen games now for the Bucks and lost

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Speaker 1: fifteen of them, and in defense, which is what he's

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Speaker 1: known for looks terrible. It's getting worse. I mean that

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Speaker 1: that was my big tape. But after he brings in

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Speaker 1: major right Chris Content and Tim Jennings from his old bears.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the problem. I can't stand coaches that get

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Speaker 1: wedded to certain average players because they know your system.

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Speaker 1: How about go get smart young players that can learn

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Speaker 1: your system, because what is the plan a bad team

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Speaker 1: that's showing no markings of growth? What is love E.

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Speaker 1: Smith's plan? It's impossible to know. They've been They've been

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Speaker 1: bomb dropped like seven times in the last season. Your

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Speaker 1: boy Terence West. This game was set a laugher. It

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Speaker 1: was like Oregon. I mean with the score, Mariota didn't

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Speaker 1: have to play in the fourth quarter. They took out

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Speaker 1: Bishop Sankey in the third quarter. They put in your

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Speaker 1: guy Terence West. Now Terence West on a potential playoff team.

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Speaker 1: Bishop Sanky had a career high in yard Did you

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Speaker 1: get you know that Bishop Sanky's career high is only

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Speaker 1: was only like exceeding Well, we know we know this

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Speaker 1: from what we've seen. Yes, Dan, you're smelling something. What

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Speaker 1: is that? That's Lovely Smith's hot? But he's on the

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Speaker 1: hot seat. He's got a hot but it stinks his

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Speaker 1: butts getting hot. Well he is, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that's that's a patient organization. The police. Well, we've

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Speaker 1: seen this factor going back to Michael Vick with the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: When you have a mobile quarterback who's a threat to run,

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Speaker 1: it helps the running back and I think that's one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why Bishop Sanky's doing better now. Well,

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Speaker 1: they definitely added some Oregon elements to this. They did

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Speaker 1: some hurry up. There was a lot of like package plays.

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Speaker 1: I think they showed us that they're trying to build

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Speaker 1: this offense. You mentioned our RG three to Mariota strengths,

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Speaker 1: and that's what you want to see out of a

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Speaker 1: coach and staff. Gotta give Ken what do you Ken

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Speaker 1: Wi isn't the most boring coach in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: do think he has potential for an RG three like

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Speaker 1: rookie season where he gets everyone excited around the league,

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Speaker 1: in in Nashville especially, But he is going to make

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Speaker 1: some rookie mistakes against good defenses especially. But you know,

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Speaker 1: like I said, Dan, the traits are there. They're all there.

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Speaker 1: It's all about traits. T D is my Mike okay,

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Speaker 1: because I did that bit where I was doing the smelling.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you were doing there, But Mike's okay,

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Speaker 1: you I'm not so sure about. But all right. Moving on,

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith through for two forty three yards and three

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in the first half to to draft Travis. And

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of competing nicknames right now with Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: You're hearing baby Gronk. I don't know if that's more

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Speaker 1: creation in here. You're also hearing Zeus, which I have

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Speaker 1: some issues with intellectual property there. Anyway, Travis Kelsey had

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Speaker 1: two first quarter touchdowns all added up to win for

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs over the Houston Texans, and uh mark the

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer, your boy old former Cleveland Springsteen. You guys

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Speaker 1: want to make a lot of people my boy. It's not.

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Speaker 1: None of these guys are my boy. Once upon a

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Speaker 1: time he was. If we were making a list, Brian Hoyer,

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Speaker 1: is he's in your boy hall of fame? He was

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Speaker 1: totally inaccurate. Asked to cover the Chiefs Texans early last

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Speaker 1: week as if there was gonna be you know, I

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Speaker 1: was going to get a lot of texts from West

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Speaker 1: and Dan. Hey, what Marks like, I better get in here.

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Speaker 1: I'm a team guy. You always make fun of this.

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Speaker 1: Let me just get Hoyer struggled. He was awful because

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he stinks and you know, and Ryan

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Speaker 1: Mallett took over with six minutes to play lead Houston

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Speaker 1: on a couple of scoring drives made it, you know, respectable.

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Speaker 1: But there you go, Mark. We talked about it last week.

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Speaker 1: The quickest quarterback controversy in football comes out of Houston. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Hoyer two inexcusable turnovers that absolutely changed this game.

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Speaker 1: His first pass was a pick six. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is Hoyer played some bad games down the stretch last season.

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Speaker 1: But the point here was he knows Bill O'Brien's offense,

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Speaker 1: he's comfortable, he's confident. You know, none of that looked

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Speaker 1: to be the case and he and he said it

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Speaker 1: after the game. He did a disservice to the organization

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Speaker 1: with the way he played. And it's not a good game.

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Speaker 1: It's an insult to call Brian Hoyer a game manager

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Speaker 1: in the same vein as Alex Smith. Is an insult

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Speaker 1: to Alex Smith, who's a much better player. And Brian

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Speaker 1: Hoyer is not a game manager. He turns the ball

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Speaker 1: over way too much. They are not anywhere close to

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Speaker 1: the same quarterback. And the biggest takeaway from me was,

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Speaker 1: I know the Chiefs bored us two tears last year,

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Speaker 1: but they looked interesting today. I think there's something else

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Speaker 1: going on. You've got Kelsey. Having Macklin in there changes

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Speaker 1: what they can do. He tested defenders down to the field,

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Speaker 1: and Alex Smith looks supremely confident. I feel like he's

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Speaker 1: a smart quarterback who just seems so much more comfortable

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Speaker 1: this season in an offense that is growing some weapons. Finally,

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Speaker 1: they've got triplets and you can even exclude the quarterback

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Speaker 1: Jamal Charles, Jeremy Macklin and Travis Kelsey. But and they're

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Speaker 1: a good team right now. But Greg in his preview

589
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: got trapped by Chiefs fan. But it's a good point.

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Speaker 1: If they lose Jamal Charles or Jeremy Macklin, they're not

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Speaker 1: a good team. Well, they don't have a lot of teams.

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Speaker 1: They don't have depth on ter. You know another team

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Speaker 1: you know that I think is lousy is the Texan.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this is just more of the opponent.

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Speaker 1: First of all, the Texans outgame. If I didn't watch

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Speaker 1: the game, and I know a lot of it was

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Speaker 1: late drives, but they you know, the Texans outgain them

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Speaker 1: by sixty yards. And I still I know they have J. J. Watt,

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Speaker 1: but there's just nothing about this Texans team that's special

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Speaker 1: at all. There's nothing to think that it would be

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Speaker 1: surprising if they win five or six games. Watt had

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Speaker 1: six ta yeah, but the problem is that we've come

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Speaker 1: to expect that from J. J. Watt. But it's football

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Speaker 1: where one player, especially a defensive player, is only going

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Speaker 1: to make that much of a difference. And the one thing, Yes,

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt was disruptive as always, but then go

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Speaker 1: watch what Kelsey did to this secondary and how much

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Speaker 1: space there was between him and defenders. They just eight

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Speaker 1: Houston up. I mean, he was no solution. Who starts

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Speaker 1: for the Texans at quarterback next week? I think you

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Speaker 1: Malick came in and it was it was a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a strange situation, but ten points and two drives,

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Speaker 1: I think both guys are going to continue to rotate

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Speaker 1: over and over. You gotta go with Mallett next week.

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Speaker 1: You know it's crazy, you do that whole trading camp

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Speaker 1: thing and you decide it is. Maybe it's maybe, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's only six or eight games that he says,

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Speaker 1: but then it's you know, it happens. That's the first

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Speaker 1: indication that you don't have a quarterback though, when you're going,

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Speaker 1: you're going snap for snap and hold on. Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: told us all told reporters, he told his own coaches

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Speaker 1: that the rest of the league and every critic is

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Speaker 1: just wrong about his quarterbacks. They're both quality, quality players.

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Speaker 1: And television on Hard Knocks, yeah, let this always be

625
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: a reminder if you like that show, when the coaches

626
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Speaker 1: talking up the quarterbacks too much, that means they usually stink.

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Speaker 1: And it did remind me of how this this season started.

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Speaker 1: It was with O'Brien in a private meeting everybody's yelling

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Speaker 1: at his own coaches. It was a little nobody this

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Speaker 1: was his quote, Nobody talks about the Texans because nobody

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Speaker 1: thinks we're gonna win. And the disrespect that they show

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Speaker 1: our quarterbacks. I'm tired of that too, because both those

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Speaker 1: kids can play. They need a chance, and one of

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Speaker 1: them is going to get it. Enough is enough, They're chance,

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Speaker 1: they can play. Can they play, well, that's a different story.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Foster might be back next week. It is just

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Speaker 1: week one. I do remember the Titans absolutely dominating a

638
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Speaker 1: road game in Week one last year and the only

639
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: one one more game the rest of the season. See

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00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, you never know? Mark? Are you ready to

641
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: talk about the Pain Bowl? What's that? Well? It is

642
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: the New York Jets, the number two team on the

643
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: old users pain rakings against the Cleveland Browns. It says

644
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: Pain Bowl right here on his on his little bring

645
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: it on. And by the way, Mark, you could real

646
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: happy for you. You You can pretend you're not a Browns fan,

647
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: but you have they exist. You can't pretend like you

648
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: don't even know who said I will watch their game

649
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: probably Wednesday Thursday. Want to get around to it then?

650
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Speaker 1: Not the top of my list. And I was getting

651
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: a lot of tweets about this. I was getting a

652
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: lot of tweets about this. Uh No, Mark did not.

653
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't appear that Mark watched this game that we're

654
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: about to do. Even when Johnny Manvell came in and

655
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: made a really nice play, Mark wasn't like peeking around.

656
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: He was clearly I was looking at Mark space that

657
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: I could read the body language in the face language.

658
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: He was punishing yourself essentially, because I know you wanted

659
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: to check in, but you didn't. I don't wish them

660
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Speaker 1: ill will. I felt bad for any team that loses

661
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback eight minutes into the season. Let's get

662
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: into it. Yes, the Jets got two touchdown passes from

663
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and Chris Ivory ran for two scores, and

664
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Speaker 1: the New York Football Jets, with fireman head back at

665
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: the meadow Lands, Greg get excited, took care of business

666
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: win over the Browns. Josh McCown, in one of the

667
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: brownsiest moments ever, attempts to scramble for a touchdown at

668
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: the end of a long drive, gets clawbert on a

669
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Speaker 1: John Elway helicopter copter type scenario, fumbles the ball, loses

670
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: the fumble and loses his marbles, gets concussed on the

671
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: play out of the game. Incomes Johnny Manziel. It's like

672
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: the anti John Elway moment. Oh my god, that was unbelievable. Uh.

673
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: Manzelle comes in, starts off promising um, throws a long

674
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 1: touchdown past the Travis Benjamin the first touchdown of his career.

675
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: But then he's been training and let's we gotta cut

676
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: Johnny a little slack. Any young guy coming in cold

677
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: like that might struggle, but he was pretty reckless with

678
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: the football. Three term and over has lost two fumbles

679
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: when he wasn't protecting the football well and then one interception.

680
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: Jets took advantage of that twenty one points off five

681
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: Brown's turnovers. And I will also say this, Mark, I'm

682
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: much like Andrew said on on our last show, I am,

683
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: and I don't you know whether you care or not.

684
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed that you're doing this. I thought it was

685
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: a bit and now I'm starting to see you're gonna

686
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Speaker 1: run with it. It leaves me is the only real

687
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: like fan in terms of rooting for a team in

688
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: this room, because Greg pretty much checked out on the

689
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: Patriots too much that I like all the team's relax.

690
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: I like, And you're in a scenario now where West

691
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: is patting you on the back, thanking you for congratulating.

692
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Why do you see me as evil? Though I'm not.

693
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, you have now put yourself

694
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Speaker 1: in a position where you and West are conspiring about

695
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: quitting your boyhood teams. You have effectively made this about

696
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: you know it is It's is just about wanting to

697
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: take a little bit of a break from the roller coaster.

698
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: And I think that's fair. I've been following for thirty years. Again,

699
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't wish them ill. Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't

700
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: think you would make the perfect week to skip. The

701
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: quarterback getting knocked out in week one on a spinning

702
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: play where he would have scored a touchdown. That's about

703
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: the most pressing thing can possibly come out. The point

704
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: I was trying to make was in spite of my

705
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: issues with you doing this, because it feels real now

706
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: you're you're picking a good year. If this is gonna

707
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: be a long year sabbatical, they are gonna the Brown

708
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: stink because I don't think you know, I know, I

709
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Speaker 1: say I think the Jets have a chance to the

710
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: playoff contender, but the Jets. They made the Jets look

711
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: great over the last three quarters of this game, and

712
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't imagine the Browns being able

713
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: to get out of their own way this season. This

714
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: could be a very long It is early, but you

715
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. You gave up a hundred and

716
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: fifty yards on the ground that was meant to be

717
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: the big thing. You're meant to be able to run

718
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: the ball. You can't run the ball. Listen, you take

719
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: away man Sale's rushing yardage and they did absolutely nothing. Well,

720
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: so what was the point? What are you at this point?

721
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: So I challenged them to go turn it around. Be

722
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: We don't know if Josh McCown will even be ready

723
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: for week two, but like Mike Mike Patton also has

724
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: a job to try to keep it. What is the

725
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: point of playing Josh McCown. This is at best probably

726
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: a five win team. Why if they're going to play

727
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: the first round pick and see what happens, what do

728
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: you have to lose? You will play, But they're gonna

729
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: be three and eight at some point. Manzel will play,

730
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: Austin Davis will play. Probably they'll sign Fed Lewis again,

731
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: he'll play. You know, Dan Dan Hands just might get

732
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: in there for a couple of songs. It's a bad

733
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: sign when you're two leading rushers are Johnny Menzel and

734
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Josh McCown. The guy who has knocked out on the

735
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: first drive of the game or whatever. Well, where was

736
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: this offensive line? One? One positive though, Josh McCown the

737
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: only starting quarterback today to finish with a perfect QBR.

738
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Speaker 1: I really don't understand QBR. How did he get a

739
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: KBR if he was six yards for attempt and he

740
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: fumbled the ball? They what am I missing? Yet? That's

741
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: a good question. The Jets did not play well early

742
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: in this game, and if the Browns could get out

743
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: of their own way, they could have been going into

744
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: the halftime up to touchdowns. That's what bad teams did.

745
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Could we just be overreacting to the score here? Did

746
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: the Browns and the Jets looked like even teams for

747
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: most of this game? They had even told the yards

748
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: like they were. It was. The Browns with two minutes

749
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: of player were up ten seven and the final scores

750
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: thirty one ten. So they just got badly outplayed and

751
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: our coach in the second half over five times. Peter

752
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Brown's fan, don't you want to see this play? Let's

753
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: rule it t D. Here's a nice breakdown of Johnny

754
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: Manziel's touchdown to Travis Benjamin. I think Brown's fans want

755
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: to see more of it. Well, it's it's a nice

756
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: and it really was. Crimarti got toasted on the play,

757
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: and speaking of Antonio Crimarti, he suffered in nine contact

758
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: left knee injury carded off to the dreaded towel over

759
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: the head, which I've never seen a guy put the

760
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: towel over's head, Not to make light of it, but

761
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: put the toweover's head and not be a serious injury.

762
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: Just seems like that's when they know. So I don't

763
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna see Antonio Crimarti again this year.

764
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: So that was really the worst part of the day

765
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: for the Jets. But the other thing, one more thing

766
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: about just before we move on, Brandon Marshall looked like

767
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: a difference maker in this game. They haven't had a

768
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: guy like this since Keshawn Johnson. He beat Joe Hayden

769
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: on a goal line one yard pass where he just

770
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: was a He was a big boy and made a play.

771
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: He had the key play the game, which was after

772
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick through his only interception, um Marshall stripped the ball

773
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: and got the ball back and it led to a

774
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: Jet touchdown. So Brandon Marshall making things happen, a guy

775
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: they haven't had in a while. What do you know,

776
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: a team that needs a wide receiver could have gotten

777
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: them for a fifth rounder. That's too bad trade Big Man.

778
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 1: Kind of like in Cleveland, you're saying, why bother waste

779
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: time with Josh McCown. Now, now there's just another week

780
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: wasting time when with Ryan Fitzpatrick, when you've got Gino

781
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Smith behind him, ready to really take him over the top,

782
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: the Jawbreaker. My fantasy team is the Jawbreakers with the

783
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: our logo is the image when Gino mean mugged the

784
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: Instagram photo. One of the more ridiculous moments in my

785
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: franchise is rich history. Um, let's move forward. Let's talk

786
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: about the Arizona Cardinals, another team of around the NFL

787
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: candidate and Carson Palmer's returned from a c L surgery

788
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: was a big success. The veteran QB through three touchdown

789
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: passes thirty one nineteen win over your boys, Gregg the Saints. Uh,

790
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: you like Greg You're I'm a native son of New Orleans,

791
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: but you like Bruce arians is aggressive game plan? Yeah,

792
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: That's what I like is teams that have a little

793
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: bit of guts instead of Sean Payton right at the

794
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: end of the game. I just thought it was a

795
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: nice dichotomy. Fourth and six. Granted it was on the

796
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: seven yard line. The shadow of his own goal line.

797
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: Under two minutes to go, Drew Brees has the ball

798
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: and Sean Payton decides to punt the ball fourth and Sex,

799
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Come on, get six yards. Yes, if you don't get it,

800
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose the game. Hey, if you punk the ball,

801
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose the game too. And you know what,

802
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: the football gods were watching, and they told Bruce, Hey,

803
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: let's let's stick it to Sean Payton right here. He

804
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: didn't just run the ball into the line three straight plays.

805
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: He threw the ball with a screen pass. He thought

806
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: it was a very safe pass on second down to

807
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: David Johnson, David Johnson's first NFL touch, He takes into

808
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: the house fifty five yards and Sean Payton never even

809
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: gave it a chance to try to win that game.

810
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: John Payton has his reputation as this aggressive risk taker

811
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: because of the onside kick boat. He did a lot

812
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: of this lame stuff last year where they were punting

813
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: in very odd situations. It's just weird to give you.

814
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: First of all, you're putting that much faith in your defense,

815
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: which wasn't getting a lot of stops. They they basically

816
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: prevented damage by giving up field goals. But it's not

817
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: like the Saints defense look good all day and the

818
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: best case scenarios you get the ball back with under

819
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: a minute ago and no time outs and you have

820
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: to get a touchdown. So it made no sense at all.

821
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: And I thought Arizona, which was aggressive in their play

822
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: calling all day, they were rewarding. I mean, Saints fans,

823
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: this is a defense that stunk up the joint last year.

824
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: You give up well over four hundred yards today, and

825
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a run heavy Saints team. Two

826
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: point seven yards per carry. What the heck front seven

827
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: that Gregg's been trashing in air? The Saints offensive line,

828
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: I know, among big time Saints fans, is a huge,

829
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: huge concern. And judging by the play calling and the

830
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: stats and everything I saw today, uh, that is warranted

831
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: because they didn't try to drop back. Everything was dump

832
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: off when they ran the ball. Ingram and Kyrie Robinson

833
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: were both absolutely stuff. I mean, mark Ingram had eight

834
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: catches for ninety yards. They were doing all the damage

835
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: on screen passes and through the air. They were kind

836
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: of figuring out a way to move the ball, but

837
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: nothing downfield. Really That new look Saints offense. Drew Brees

838
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: on pace for seven sixty eight pass attempts this season.

839
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, this is Honey Badger going all

840
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: pro this year. Honey Badger was all over the field

841
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: making the leap boy eight tackles. That making the leap

842
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: is looking good. Tyrone Crawford's looking good so far. Maybe

843
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna he's gonna get in there. He's gonna bring

844
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: him to the playoffs. Very good end of the season run. Yeah,

845
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Matthew looked great. So that is making the leak candidate

846
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins zero catches today. Vonte Davis blanketed him. Davis

847
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: is good, but that is that's a little bit for

848
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: they only I think they only attempted nineteen passes. It

849
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: was amazing to me to be watching a week I

850
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: never expected Chris Johnson to be getting big time carries

851
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: in a Week one game. He was really getting the

852
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: ball ahead of David Johnson. As I mentioned, look it

853
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: looks fine. Clock killer. Chris Johnson was okay. The only

854
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: he was in there though, was because Andrea Ellington hurt

855
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: his knee. It's a PCL injury, Bruce Arian said. So

856
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson could be starting at running back for them

857
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: next week. M alright, Moving on, Let's go to San

858
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: Diego where Phil Rivers through for over four yards and

859
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: the Charges reeled up thirty unanswered points in a win

860
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: over the Lions. Uh, this is a Lions team. It

861
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: was a towel of two games. The line jumped out

862
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: to a three lead in the first half, then the

863
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: offense just disappeared. And you know afterwards, as you're watching

864
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: the game, there's some speculation brewing that Matthew Stafford got hurt.

865
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: He got hit by Melvin ingram Um in this game.

866
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: He took a shot to his shoulder arm area. In

867
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: the second half. He shows up and he's wearing an

868
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: arm sleeve on his throwing arm and he noticeably lacking

869
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: zip and accuracy after that point. So it's something to

870
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that Stafford might be dealing with something. UM.

871
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball, Phil river Is,

872
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: after throwing two picks in the first half, including a

873
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: killer in the end zone on a badly under thrown ball,

874
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: is basically perfect in the second half. Um, just unbelievable performance.

875
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen and he had a softball. Uh excuse me.

876
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: Sophomore slump last year. Fifteen catches in this game, a

877
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five yards. I believe so keenan Allen

878
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: was the beast. Ladarius Green, a former making the leap guy,

879
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: had a touchdown, so the Chargers um come roaring back.

880
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: A very nice win. How off did you see a

881
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: quarterback of thirty five for forty two moving? He's gonna

882
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: be moving on up grapes. Quarterback doesn't take much for

883
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: me with Philip Rivers. He's one of the best quarterbacks

884
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I often I often forget this

885
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: until I watched Chargers games. But he has easily now

886
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: taken the torch from Brett Farve, from the guy that

887
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: gets an ounces to go. Oh this guy he plays

888
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: like a kid. He loves football. Oh he's just a

889
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: it on a plague ground. That's the Phil Rivers stuff.

890
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: But he does. He plays well, and and he seems

891
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: to enjoy doing it. He has like seven kids. The Lions,

892
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: we know this is their first game without Dominican Zoo,

893
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: and they gave up I believe over four fifty yards

894
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: of total offense in this game. And I don't know.

895
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't put a ton of stock into uh Tony

896
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: Saragoose's sideliner reports for Fox. I don't think Fox does

897
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: either because they downgraded and it's like the third or

898
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: fourth team this season. Um but uh. Saragosa noted that

899
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: as everything was crumbling in the second half, the Lion's

900
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: sideline was dead and there was nobody there to say,

901
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: you know, let's get going. It was basically a team

902
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: that was gassed and ready to go home, and that's

903
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: what they did with the loss. Well, when you come

904
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: into qualcom, you know you don't come out the same.

905
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: I was in Diego last night. It's unseasonably hot there

906
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: right now. Maybe that was part of less is humble Bragg?

907
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: Where are you doing in the U near the border?

908
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: There was wrestling. I was Gallivanton down the coach. There's

909
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: you would say, well, you can't spend every Sunday in

910
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: seventy two degrees perfect temperature. Dome. I want a question

911
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: for you. Horrible stadium, by the way, they no wonder

912
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: they want out. I went to a Brett Farve Jets

913
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: game in two thousand and eight and it is a dump.

914
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: It's nearly a decade later, so it can't be any better. No,

915
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: it can't be Melvin Gordon. Though not a good preseason.

916
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm seeing he had three points six yards per carry.

917
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: How do you look? He looked okay. He actually there

918
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: was one play that he scored a touchdown and then

919
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: they ruled that his elbow is down, which was a

920
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: good ruling. But he showed a nice bit of athleticism

921
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: to stay on his feet. There were a couple of

922
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: times where he may be pitter pattered a little bit,

923
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: but there were a couple of times also where he

924
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: got just buried in the backfield where he had no

925
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: shot whiltual effect that yards per carry, So there's nothing

926
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: really get too worried about it. On the other side

927
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: of a mere Abdullah looks like a stud. I mean

928
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: he had play on Eric Weddle where he joked Eric

929
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: went all out of the stadium almost turned like I said,

930
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: he turned that screen pass into a big play. Yeah,

931
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: he does have breakaway speed, but his cutting ability is insane.

932
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: He's so quick west west When I were talking about it,

933
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: it's almost like he accelerates off a cut like you

934
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: could just when you just don't see people. Do Odell

935
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Beckham does that, and in Abdulla Abdulah does it. But

936
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: we expected him to have more help around him today,

937
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: that that he was going to be an extra piece

938
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: to like a suddenly deeper Lions offense. But it was

939
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: the Chargers offense, which they have to feel so good

940
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: about their team after this game is the exact opposite

941
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: last year where they blew a big Week one lead

942
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: to Arizona to come back from twenty one to three.

943
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: You get Stevie Johnson really as a quality starter, and

944
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: you get our guy from a year ago, La Darius

945
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: gleen Green having a big game. Suddenly when you get

946
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: Gates back, I mean that's a lot of would head

947
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: back to had twelve rushes big. If Kevin Patrick wasn't

948
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: passed out face down on a mattress without any sheets

949
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: right now, I would love to talk to him about

950
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: the Lions because they are his team. And the thing

951
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: about the Lions as I watch this game, and there

952
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: is I believe their number four on the pain rankings

953
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: mark is there? There is that DNA that ties the

954
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: years together. It felt like a very much like a

955
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: Lion's loss. And I know we talked very positively about

956
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: this team and who knows they could go back to

957
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: Ford Field and kick someone's ass and then everyone's excited again.

958
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: But this was very Lions and it made you think,

959
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: is this team ever going to make the leap? Well,

960
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: they could definitely still go eleven and five and and

961
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: and week into the playoffs. But Pat was the first

962
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: person because he's been bit hard. He's the first person

963
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: that will tell you that there are weaknesses with Matthew

964
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: Stafford's inconsistency and they're only gonna go as far as

965
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: him and Calvin Johnson. By the way, two catches today

966
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: and way too soon to say. Is that a sign

967
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: that he's on the other side? Uh? And who knows

968
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: what Stafford, but he was not a part of this attack.

969
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: I mean they were trying to come back in the game.

970
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: At one point, Stafford trying to force a pass in

971
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: and he was covered well on the play and they

972
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: just couldn't get him the ball. I'd like to see

973
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: who has covered him. I guess that whole secondary is

974
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 1: pretty good. But you've got Flowers, you got Varette. Maybe

975
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: I read somewhere it was bracket coverage. Maybe this team

976
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: of a t L buzz for Detroit taking a big

977
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: hit from last year's forgotten team of a t L

978
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: who you can't forget about any more. The Chargers, Oh no,

979
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: they're forgotten. I don't. By the way, we all love

980
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Phil Rivers. Why do we s on them as being

981
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: the team of a t L. That was a nice

982
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: little team they were. They were boring to watch last year,

983
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: which goes against team of a t L. They're more

984
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: fun to watch this year. They'll be more fun this year. Um,

985
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on now. Listen, they're not all gems.

986
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 1: They're not all gems. There are a lot of good

987
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: games to watch. Greg will argue that they're all special

988
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: flowers and delicate going into the gentle frinkle of water

989
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: and they'll bloom into beauties. But makes sense of this

990
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: Panthers Jaguars game A a twenty nine Panthers win over

991
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: the Jags in a game where, of course Cam Newton

992
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna light it up. I don't think we're gonna

993
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: see them light it up much at all this year.

994
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: And Blake Bortles meanwhile, lived in the gabber zone, which

995
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: whenever you're talking about a Jaguars quarterback, you do not

996
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: want to be in the gabber zone. So under six

997
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: yards pertemptive, the five is really deep into the game. Oh,

998
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was five, but we moved it up.

999
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: I think it's under six in the five to six ranges.

1000
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: So was Cam Newton, Yeah, so was Peyton Manning. So

1001
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: I will let's talk. Because we were again we were

1002
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: in love with Chris Westling, with Blake Bortles potential last preseason,

1003
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: we again we thought, you know, he's making some strides,

1004
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: potentially too soon to worry that he's again in a

1005
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: horrible situation and it could be setting back his career. Well,

1006
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: I think it's you have valid reasons for concern. You know,

1007
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: I didn't see this game, but I can see that

1008
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: he made mistakes, some big mistakes. He had to pick six,

1009
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: and I believe he's had the most pick six in

1010
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: the NFL since he entered the league. Allen Robinson also

1011
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: had a huge drop. There were a lot of drops

1012
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: in this game from both teams. I mean Cam Newton,

1013
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned, he had pretty bad stats.

1014
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: I mean, the Panthers offense didn't make anyone think, um

1015
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be okay based on this performance. But

1016
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: it's a really to me, it's a very dis ap

1017
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: pointing moment for the Jaguars to end up losing by

1018
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: two scores at home on a day when you know

1019
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: that the Panthers couldn't really run the ball. Luke kick

1020
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: got concussed right, and a lot of things were in

1021
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: their favor to get a win to start the season,

1022
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: and they weren't wildly competitive. The share DNA that would

1023
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: trouble me is Blake Bortles five sex. That's one reason

1024
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: last year you can you can blame it all on

1025
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles. But when you're getting your butt kicked game

1026
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: after game, you're getting hit NonStop, you cannot progress become

1027
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: the quarterback they want you to be. It looked like

1028
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: the running game was improved, but it's like what this

1029
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: feels very much like a Jaguars score three years into

1030
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: the Gust Bradley project. You didn't give up fifty four points,

1031
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: to give up twenty, but your score nine. All right,

1032
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: let's let's do anybody else have anything to say about

1033
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: this game? No? Sorry, sorry, Panthers fans, we know you're

1034
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: wanting no enjoy the top of the a f C

1035
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: South for this half a day or whatever it is,

1036
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: maybe a week. Careful about the Panthers, You know, what

1037
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: I like. That's true, that's true. I'm just saying it's

1038
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: one week. Mark almost achieved this dream of succeeding Greg

1039
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: on the depth chart around the NFL this past week.

1040
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: That's all I'll say. A certain Charlotte based NFL team

1041
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: criticism from the Fearless Boss. Let's move on to the

1042
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, who went to the black Hole on Sunday

1043
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: and you know, we're thinking, oh, this might be the

1044
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: year the Raiders are frisky. Let's get excited. Well, at

1045
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: least in week one, it does not look like the

1046
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: Raiders are gonna be frisky. The Bengals had it easy,

1047
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: dominating in all phases in a thirty three fourteen win.

1048
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: Uh Andy Dalton and Tyler Effort keeping one on Tyler Eifford,

1049
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: by the way, Um connected for two touchdowns and Derek

1050
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: Carr left the game with a hand injury. This is

1051
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: a game that was thirty three nothing at one point. So, uh,

1052
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: Matt McGloin was playing big time snaps, so very dark times,

1053
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: very sad crowd shots in Oakland of a fan base

1054
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: that you know they could be a little bit rowdy

1055
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: and sometimes you think they're kind of you know, a

1056
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: punk type fan base. They deserve better and this time

1057
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: to put the optimism back in the shelf in Oakland, West. Yeah,

1058
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: I liked I liked my analysis better when I was

1059
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: trashing the Raiders. I don't know why I picked him

1060
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: to win this game. It was bad. That was totally

1061
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: anti Bengal sentiment. You even admitted it was. It was

1062
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: tricky for you to pick between your two raging biases,

1063
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: you raging blind spots on inside. You know, I do

1064
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: expect Andy Dalton have a career year, and I think

1065
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals offenses loaded. I just didn't think that they

1066
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: were this complete of a team to go on the

1067
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: road and absolutely demolish another I like my bold prediction

1068
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: of Andy Dalton throwing more touchdowns and Peyton Manning. I

1069
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: just wrote that in some sort of early morning fever dream.

1070
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: One of the million bold prediction pieces. It's one of

1071
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: the few that's gonna look good, that's not looking bad.

1072
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Dalton Wood is a twenty eight touchdown guy

1073
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: on average. You know, one of my props was Manny

1074
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: throws thirty. I think thirty. That's a pretty good one.

1075
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: That's good. There is something particularly deflating about a week

1076
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: one loss like this at home, a specially after, you know,

1077
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: to a bad team like the Raiders like to their

1078
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: fan base, all of that, like moderate preseason buzz means

1079
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: a lot like oh wow, these he's got you know now,

1080
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: people really think we're more of an NFL team, and

1081
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: like you, you really convince yourself into that were no

1082
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: longer the worst team to leave. We've got a lot

1083
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: of young pieces. And then you're down thirty three nothing

1084
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: at home and you're, oh, wait, nothing has changed nothing.

1085
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: Well that too, that's true too. He said they didn't

1086
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: think it was gonna be a long term issue. It

1087
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: was swelling in his hand. He con yes that it

1088
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: could be a multi week absence. He completed seven passes

1089
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: for sixty one yards before leaving the game. Never downplay

1090
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: I know mcgloyne. If you give mcgloyn a week to prepare,

1091
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: never kind of out. I don't mcgloyn is a backup

1092
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: fourteen preseason MVP Matt mcglogne. There are Raiders fans who

1093
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,959
Speaker 1: believe that mcgloyd is a better quarterback than Derek Carr.

1094
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: I kind of like two problems I see for the Raiders.

1095
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: Can't run the balls just to like well number one.

1096
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: I thought that with Khalil Mack and some other players

1097
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: of this defense, we said they were watchable. Zero sacks,

1098
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: nine d q b R for Dalton. It's just it's

1099
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: a really rough start. Del Rio, the coach, talked about,

1100
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm a Raiders fan. We're changing the culture. Everything is changing,

1101
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to keep waiting for Alden. Smith

1102
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: had one tackle that was there for him and and

1103
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Dalton looked great. Obviously it's September, so he's probably gonna

1104
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: look better in September than January. But he really did

1105
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: play well. And I'll say it again, and this is

1106
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: not gonna be some news to anyone that's a fantasy owner,

1107
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: but if Tyler Eifford is on your wire and you

1108
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: have to bid, let's say X amount of dollars, don't

1109
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: be afraid to throw it out there because he and

1110
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: when you guys watch this game, he looked awesome. If

1111
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: he's on the wire. What kind of league are you in? Well,

1112
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: a lot of preseason bus you had some buzz, but

1113
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: there are you know, a lot of tight ends. It

1114
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: depends what we kind of league you're in. But looked great.

1115
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: More team league with infants. Not, well, what do you

1116
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: Who's who's ahead of Eifford and a tight end in

1117
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: fantasy many You know where we're by the way, our

1118
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: fantasy team. Mila vain Troub, the tea girl named after West,

1119
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: was the draft consultant. Mark is an eighteen percent shareholder.

1120
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: I am the majority owner. Greg is the boss, but

1121
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: has no affiliation with our fantasy team. Big win in

1122
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: Week one, Trawner. And you also have David Eally downstairs.

1123
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: Isn't he a kicker consultant or something? He's a my

1124
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: emerging role in the front of a mockery. You've somehow

1125
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: made a mockery of fantasy football. That's a one man job.

1126
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: Not It's called being subversive. Greg look into it anyway.

1127
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: So Tyler Eifford is awesome. If he's on your fantasy team,

1128
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna win it all baby looking to be insubversive.

1129
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen is really if you lost today in a

1130
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: PPR league and Keenan Allen was on your team, you

1131
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: should just fire yourself and hire Mark or something like that.

1132
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: I want nothing to do with it. Higher West hire Mark,

1133
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 1: who come out after the draft co owners fantasy football

1134
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: team don't even know what the team's name is. Really,

1135
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: just take stock in this. So you quit being a

1136
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: Browns fan. You're you've removed yourself from the fantasy side

1137
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: of things. Are you just disappearing from society? Startingly, slowly,

1138
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: bit by bit, removing the bricks, each little brick, and Dan,

1139
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: you can say it's a bit, but you know, actually

1140
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: start doing this for Dan. I'm doing this four Mark

1141
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: for you for me. Yeah, you're slowly morphing into my

1142
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: life stuff. Mark now the person to ever go a

1143
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: third person on this podcast, following in Dan's listen one day, Mark,

1144
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: you could be like West two. Yeah, it would be noble. No,

1145
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: West is a wonderful fellow. All right. Moving on, the

1146
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins much hyped offense didn't look very very swimming.

1147
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Well, we didn't go swimming. I

1148
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: think it didn't go swimmingly on Sunday, but a punt

1149
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: return score from Jarvis Lander was enough to secure a

1150
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: seventeen ten win over the Redskins in d C. West.

1151
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: What did you see from the QB positions on both sides?

1152
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Daniel missed some from some throwers, quite a few

1153
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: throws he didn't play as well as his stat line

1154
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: would show, Like you said, basically one because Jarvis Landry

1155
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: had a great punt return. Um, Kirk Cousins moved the

1156
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: ball a little bit, he had a he had a

1157
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: couple of interceptions. Um, I don't think that the Redskins

1158
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: are thinking about a quarterback change. It hurt that they

1159
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: lost de Sean Jackson to a hamstring injury earlier. Really,

1160
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: I think on the first drive to Sean Jackson left

1161
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: that one or what are they thinking about it? About

1162
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: what the Jackson's injury? Didn't he didn't. He was immediately

1163
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: rolled out, so I would imagine if he might miss

1164
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: a week or two. How about the fact that they

1165
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: only Dolphins won a game. They only had two d

1166
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: and fifty six yards of total offense. I'm surprised by

1167
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: the almost half of it. To Jordan Camera, I'm surprised

1168
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: about the performance of the Redskins defense. They were pretty

1169
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: good getting rid of Jim Hasn't Maybe they're going to

1170
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: be better. Yeah, I think they went out and rebuilt

1171
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: their defensive front and shut down Lamar Miller totally in

1172
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: the first half. Mark you uh, get on the phone

1173
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: with your boy, your friend Bill laser say, hey, pick

1174
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: it up. But you're supposed to be a studeley offense

1175
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: this year, Hey laser, well pick it up. I'm not

1176
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: sure that's the exact transcript of the conversation, and that's

1177
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: ahead of us, but I would say that, you know,

1178
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: West and I vehemently said, more teams seem to go

1179
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: run this Eagle's offense. Maybe it's not that easy to

1180
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: suddenly become, you know, the Eagles. Maybe Ryan Tannehill just

1181
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: missed too many throats. Maybe r G three didn't do

1182
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: a good enough job as the scout team's safety weekend C.

1183
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: I know you're busy back there, but is it too

1184
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: much to get some damn laser sound effect? Er? I

1185
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: am pretty busy back here, Dan, A damn laser dropping

1186
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: is not asking too much. P D is a little

1187
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: bit too busy back here, But for your sake, I

1188
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: don't think that's good. Thank you, Bud. I appreciate you.

1189
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: Anything else from this game was how about the I

1190
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: was gonna about the fact that the a f C

1191
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: East all undefeated and looking good. The Dolphins probably had

1192
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: the worst performance of the four, but just an entire division,

1193
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Why I call this a moderately troubling Dolphins performance just

1194
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: based on what I'm looking at here is that the

1195
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: offense and will look great. Defense looked line against the

1196
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: higher Mike Tannon bomb and you're under The Dolphins whacked

1197
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots last year in the opener early on in

1198
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: the season. Yes, you know what did that mean? But

1199
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean Week one couldn't be more overrated for its results.

1200
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: I would say counting the standing is the same. The

1201
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: one other takeaway from this game, if you followed our

1202
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: fantasy advice and drafted either Jordan Read or Jordan Cameron,

1203
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: pat yourself on the back. Get if these got their

1204
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: injury risks, but if they stay healthy, they're both going

1205
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: to have huge years. Jordan Read will play at least

1206
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: four more games this year. Between that, he looks fantastic.

1207
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: He had a he had a lot of plays where

1208
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: he fought for extra yards and got first down. Between

1209
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: that and the Dion Lewis called by West, which was genius,

1210
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: Like Abu had a patent on the back and it's

1211
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: deserved very harrowitz over here, Well, don't don't forget about

1212
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin start for Chris Wesley and who would now exists.

1213
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: Let's let's now move to the big Sunday night showdown

1214
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: between the Cowboys and New York Giants at a T

1215
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: and T Stadium, which is the name of the ability

1216
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys play home games. Chris Wessling and a

1217
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: game that the Giants had in hand lead late. However,

1218
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, the much maligned Tony Romo, greg lead down

1219
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: the field and the last minute of the game after

1220
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: a questionable play call by Tom Coughlin, in an even

1221
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: more customable decision by Eli Manning allows the Cowboys to

1222
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: come back from the dead seven eleven yard touchdown past

1223
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: Jason Witten uh from Tony Romo seven seconds to play,

1224
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: they convert the extra point. On a day where Dez

1225
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: Bryant breaks his foot and is gonna miss some time,

1226
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys steal one from the Giants. Mark Sessler. This

1227
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: is one of the worst Giants losses in recent memory

1228
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: and a great win for the Cowboys. Absolutely a lot

1229
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: of people being blamed in New York already. Eli Manning

1230
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: has taken the blame. Coughlin has taken the blame. But

1231
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: in this room, when this game was happening, before that

1232
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: final drive, I heard certain unnamed people say goodwill, good

1233
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: riddance to the Cowboys. Were tired of them for the road.

1234
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: There was a lot of blame going in Dallas, but

1235
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: we were counting out Tony Romo a little bit too soon.

1236
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: I think, Tony Romo, I mean, one of the most

1237
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: clutch quarterbacks in the NFL. We've known that for years.

1238
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: The numbers back it up. It's got twenty four fourth

1239
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: quarter comeback since he became the starter in two thousand six,

1240
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: three more than any other quarterback in the league. I thought,

1241
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: by the way Mark you're referring to, you know, we

1242
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: were sitting here watching the end of the game and

1243
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal was simultaneously rooting against Spags Giants defensive Corda Spagnola,

1244
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: who he despises a personal level because of what happened

1245
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, and also rooting against the Cowboys, and

1246
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: I was on the same in the same boat. There

1247
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: exactly what I like upsets, I like surprises. It was

1248
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: a wacky game, and I also like, you know, blaming

1249
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: people when they make a big mistake. And we didn't

1250
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: wait to see Dallas go drive down the field with

1251
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: ease before blaming Tom Coughlin. I said it the second

1252
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: he made the call, you throw the ball there. It's

1253
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't I know Eli managed to have taken the

1254
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: sack and all that, but it's more on Coughlin for

1255
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: not running the ball. It's a higher percentage play to

1256
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: run the ball anyways, touchdowns over. The worst case scenario

1257
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: is miss Marshawn Lynch. There's less than a minute under

1258
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 1: the clock and you have to go, you know, get

1259
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: a touchdown instead. Now you had forty more seconds. I mean,

1260
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: it just was an insane for a guy who's usually

1261
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: so conservative to call a pass there was crazy. Well wait,

1262
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: even more inexcusable is the way that, as Coughlin called it,

1263
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Speaker 1: knife through Butter Dallas just rolled down the field against

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01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: that defense two straight drives. It was I texted with

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01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: some friends back east. I have a lot of friends

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01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: that are Giants fans and I and I said, this

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01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: feels inevitable at this point, and everyone's like, yep, they're done,

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01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: they're done. And sure enough, I think it was like

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01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: eight plays eighty yards and that was it. It was done.

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01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: They had no chance to stop him. And this was

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01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: without again Dez Bryant in the locker room or any

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01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: time out. I mean that that's part of the equation

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01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: of call in the run. There. The fact there's no

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01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: time outs at all makes it really difficult to get

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Speaker 1: a touchdown drive. You know, over the summer, I did

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01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: a post on Gary Kubiak has an analytics guy in

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Speaker 1: his headset. Isn't this exactly the situation where you need

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: that guy and he's got to be able to tell

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01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: you within ten seconds whether to run or pass in

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01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: that situation. Tom Coughlin doesn't seem like an analytics type

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01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: of guy. These are really unforgivable because if you're sitting

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: here and you're able to say it in real time

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01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: and Tom Coughlin is not, that's unforgivable error. And there,

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Speaker 1: I mean they got lucky a few spots there. There

1285
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: was a defensive holding call on the Cowboys that actually

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01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: saved them a ton of time. The Giants really botched

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01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: the entire four minute drive. A lot of their snaps,

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01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: if you notice, happened with a ton of time left

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01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: on the play clock at a time when they're trying to,

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01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: you know, get the clock down. Eli Manning snapping the

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01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: ball with fifteen seconds left. This is not what you

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01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: expect to see out of a veteran quarterback like Eli Manning,

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01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: who made an unbelievable throw to Odell Beckham that we

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01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: thought was the game winner. We thought the game was

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01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: right there. Eli came up with the best throw of

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01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: the night. Doesn't matter, I mean in this game to either.

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01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: By the way, look how excited Greg is. Greg loves

1298
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: and Eli and the Giants have to eat it because

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01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: on some level it gives him a sense of closure

1300
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: about what happened. And then again he's gotten. Can you

1301
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: make up your mind what you're mocking me for being happy?

1302
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: But you were just saying I was happy about the

1303
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, Giants, but you were You were throwing blame

1304
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: all over the place. But at six players had more

1305
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: receiving yards than Odell Beckham. He was targeted less in

1306
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: this game than he has since I think Week three

1307
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: of last season. Come on, line, Manning, it's your best player.

1308
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: They also might have been concussed on the first catch

1309
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: of the game. Came right back out and I think

1310
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: he saw what kind of coverage. I heard them talking

1311
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: about it after the game. You know that he was

1312
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: getting hit at the line of scrimmage a lot in

1313
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: this game, and they're putting bracket coverage. They're gonna make

1314
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: other Giants beat him. I'll tell you what I you know,

1315
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 1: grew up in New York. The Giants have had a

1316
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: lot of success over the years, five super Bowl trips

1317
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: ANDCE eighties six four wins. But I will say this

1318
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: about the Giants, they when they lose a game, they

1319
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: have they have a real way about heartbreaking losses. And

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01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: this one is right near the top of the you

1321
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: know you had that January oh three playoff loss of

1322
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: the Niners sticks out the Miracle of the Meadowlands with

1323
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: the Sean put this one right in that they know

1324
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: how to lose a high profile game, well said, listen

1325
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: to the point. You know you can't top that. You're

1326
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: a New York guy with all this New York knowledge.

1327
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: Just the Jets I want to know and the Giants

1328
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: how and one in the world is good. I mean,

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01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: they went, like you said, knife through butter without Dez

1330
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: Bryan on the field, and they're not going to have

1331
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: them for four to six more weeks. So there were

1332
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: some concerning signs for the Cowboys in this game that

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01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: they were even in this position, because they really looked

1334
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: like the better team. But the turnovers and the penalties

1335
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: all went against Dallas. This is crazy, by the way.

1336
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: They we saw a rough feed in Eideh inside this

1337
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: building of him greeting Cowboys players as they're coming off

1338
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: the field. He's only wearing what looks like some type

1339
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: of boxer briefs, and he's like slapping people hard and

1340
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: like shouting at them. And then finally, like a Cowboys

1341
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: team official approaches him gingerly and it's like leads him

1342
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: back to the locker room that we gotta put a

1343
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: boot on your leg. By the way, you have a

1344
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: broken bone literally needs surgery. Calm down Dens for once.

1345
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: One of the reasons this room didn't believe in the

1346
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys was because if anything happened to dev Bryant, we

1347
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: thought this wasn't that good of a team. Not a

1348
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: lot of death. Now we'll see because it's the matchups

1349
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: are going to get a lot harder than the Giants defense,

1350
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: which might be about the easiest matchup you can have.

1351
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: Do you believe in Terence Williams to the Giants defense

1352
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: credit though they came up with three or four huge

1353
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: plays in this game. That's right, little and all that's

1354
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: washed away. Oh w f an tomorrow. Wait a little

1355
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: fantasy advice Terrence Williams available NFL dot com. Leagues read

1356
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: that from someone else, look at you should we pick

1357
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: him up for our fantasy team? Is that outsider? Believe

1358
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: that the outsiders and we did by Michael Fabiano, So

1359
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: go talk to him. I'm going to check out that.

1360
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: Sweet Sure, well it's probably not true. Now it's not true.

1361
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: Now everyone and their mothers picked up terribly bad. By

1362
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: the time podcast comes out, and see if Fabriano really

1363
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: doing all the time not a little segments? Can we

1364
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: find out if it's true? What are we trying to

1365
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: find out? That sets right? He's over a little any

1366
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: three percent of the leaks. That seems wacky to me.

1367
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: It's by the time that podcast comes out, it will

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01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: be down to probably already is correction, guys, This podcast

1369
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: is a radio as we're taping right now with NFL.

1370
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: Now that we're already it's like weird man. No, it's

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01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: time is a flat Circle TV. So that's a good

1372
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: start to Sunday night football, by the way, and a

1373
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: good start to another regular season week one. Nice work

1374
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: mark your sixth uh opening season with the NFL. Congratulations

1375
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 1: we'll see into you. Okay, So that was a nice

1376
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: move for me to throw it right back. Nice job Dan,

1377
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: and to West and Greg other things. You know, these

1378
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: guys have been covering football. We were like back working

1379
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: in bizarre corporations, and you were like an ad guy

1380
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,959
Speaker 1: in like New Jersey. So how about the experiences. Mark

1381
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: is getting those wild eyes, so that means it's time

1382
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: to go. Uh, this is Dan Hanson signing off. We'll

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01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday with another show and then our

1384
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: Thursday night show. So this season's on now, so get excited.

1385
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: Everybody there. He is the Quiet store and he's getting loud.

1386
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: The mail man, the Boss, t D and everybody behind

1387
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: the glass. Still Tuesday,