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Speaker 3: We'll get into my conversation with Megan McCain right after

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Speaker 3: these quick ads. Welcome to Reality with the King. It's

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Speaker 3: me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and one

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Speaker 3: of the most sought after executive producers in reality television.

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Speaker 3: With over ten years a production experience, I've executive produced

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Speaker 3: top rated programs such as eight seasons of The Real

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Speaker 3: as Netflix Is Styling, Hollywood Owns number one rated Love

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Speaker 3: So y'all know I have many jobs, child, Okay, just saying.

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Speaker 3: New episodes of Reality with the King will air once

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Speaker 3: a week on Wednesdays, will resume airing twice a week

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Speaker 3: in June. In the meantime, make sure you catch my

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Speaker 3: new late night talk show, The Night Cap Main Carlos

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Speaker 3: King on the Oprah Winfrey Network every Saturday night immediately

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Speaker 3: following Love and Marriage, DC Hey rain Drops, today's guest

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Speaker 3: on Reality with the King is one of pop culture's

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Speaker 2: And she just so happens to be one of my friends.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm talking about former co hosts of The View,

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Speaker 3: Honey Bee and the Only Meghan McCain. In our conversation,

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Speaker 3: we talk about our love of housewives. She's a huge

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Speaker 3: to share as to how Meghan and I met, and

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Speaker 3: I met Meghan McCain in Las Vegas headed to the

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Speaker 3: Late God Got Concert. Yes, my partner says to me.

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Speaker 2: So mind you. I don't get starstruck often. I was starstruck.

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Speaker 3: And I tapped Meghan and said, I love you.

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Speaker 3: Meghan could not have been more sweet. We spoke for

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Carlos. I remember all of that obviously in

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Speaker 3: back into my conversation with Meghan. I was mad last

436
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Speaker 3: week when this a hole went on Twitter to talk

437
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 3: crap about you.

438
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: And let's go for the record. You have a book

439
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 2: called bab Republican.

440
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: One thing I know about people, Megan, the truth doesn't

441
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: get as much pressed as a lie. So because I

442
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: follow you on social media, I already knew you had

443
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: the Audible version of this book for months, if not

444
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: a year before the book was released, and it had

445
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 3: a lot of great reviews. So when people started making

446
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 3: jokes like, oh, her book only sold two hundred copies,

447
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 3: is like, guys, she had an exclusive deal with Audible

448
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 3: and it became popular to use that to diminish you.

449
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: And then this a hole decided to say these crazy

450
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 3: things about you. Oh, I kicked her off of her

451
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 3: father's jack use. She was being a brat, Like why

452
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 3: is this man attacking this woman in this way?

453
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 2: Like how did you feel when that was going on?

454
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Speaker 1: I mean, I told you yesterday, like it's been a

455
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 1: very taxing time, but I'm tough. I really have like

456
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: skin like rawhide. At this point, the book thing has

457
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: been range just because it came out seven months ago,

458
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: and I actually had, like you said, I had an

459
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: exclusive contract with Audible where I couldn't put anything out

460
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: in print until after six months. And it was actually

461
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: intended to be just like a verbal like a podcast

462
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: and like a story, and I really enjoyed recording it,

463
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: and you know it, I actually am not one of

464
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: these people that gets really caught up on like sales

465
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: and numbers and ratings to a point like it matters,

466
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: but it like it doesn't keep me up at night.

467
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: And they did very well. When I first came out,

468
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: it was like number two behind Dave Grohld's book for

469
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: first two weeks, and then I think it was like

470
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Speaker 1: number three for the first two months. And you know,

471
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: I was very happy with it. My publisher was very

472
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: happy with it, my eder was very happy with it.

473
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Speaker 1: And then I had an independent bookstore come to me,

474
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Speaker 1: say do you want to do like a very small

475
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: printing for people who don't didn't want to listen to it?

476
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: And there's some people as you know, that like having

477
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: physical books in their home and I was like, sure, great, whatever.

478
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, I was like, I don't want to do

479
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: a big press thing just because a I don't want

480
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: to continue talking about the view stuff forever and be

481
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: like it has seven months ago. And it came out

482
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: and I just did a few things and then it

483
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: came out and it you know, didn't sell like you know,

484
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: Gangbusters and it was like trending on Twitter for a

485
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: long time. And again I'm I'm okay. I'm like, I'm

486
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: the most blessed person in the world. I have a

487
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,239
Speaker 1: wonderful life and I'm very happy. As a generalization, I

488
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: don't love bullying towards anyone, and I have some of

489
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: my closest friends I actually like started friendships with people

490
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: because they have been at the at the other side

491
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: of social media insanity. And I think it's the I

492
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: think for women in particular, it gets very personal and

493
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: it tends to be very violent as well, and that's

494
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: just hard for people that love me and like my family.

495
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's going to blow It kind

496
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: of has blown over. It's going to continue to blow over.

497
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: And if people want to be like, oh Meg, I'm

498
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: such a loser. Everybody hates her and they don't like her,

499
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 1: what can I do about that. I feel really good

500
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: about the way the Audible did.

501
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 3: It's crazy to me because at the end of the day,

502
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: you know you're an accomplished woman, Megan, You're just getting started.

503
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: In terms of what the future holds for you. I

504
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: do see a podcast in your future. I do see

505
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 3: something I really do because me and the people who

506
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 3: love you on the view, we miss your point of view.

507
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: And what's interesting is we always will look back and say, oh,

508
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: I never looked at it that way. That's a very

509
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: interesting take. So we want more of your takes on that.

510
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: But I want your take on the Real Housewives of

511
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills premiere.

512
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Speaker 2: Did you watch it?

513
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, obviously I watched it.

514
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: What did you think about that premiere? Megan?

515
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: So, I'm really happy it's back, and I think I

516
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: read on your Twitter that it did very well, like

517
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: ratings wise, like it did hire. I think this premiere

518
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: than last season, is that correct?

519
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: This premiere did one point one four or five million

520
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: last year? Did I think like zero point nine four

521
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: nine or something like that? And obviously it has now

522
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: become at least right now Bravos highest rated housewives, which

523
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: when I tweeted that, I said, I'm going to talk

524
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: about this on my podcast because obviously the biggest controversy

525
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 3: right now is the fact that, you know, Atlanta Housewives

526
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: ratings weren't as great as Belly Hills, and people are

527
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: debating that. What I wanted to talk to you about

528
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: was more so like your thoughts about Belly Hills and

529
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Speaker 3: if you even caught the Atlanta premiere.

530
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Speaker 1: I have not watched Atlanta, and this is very controversial,

531
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: like very maybe the most controversial thing I'm going to

532
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: say on your podcast. I really was a huge Nany fan,

533
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: and I know she's like, it's very messy, and she's

534
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: like suing Bravo, and I've read that she's like, I

535
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: think actually suing Andy Cohen as well. I thought she

536
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: and Kim Zulziak really made that show. So I watched

537
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: it up until last season and then it started kind

538
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: of like losing me and I need to watch it.

539
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: I actually watched Beverly Hills just because I knew we

540
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: were going to like talk about it. I know, Marlowe

541
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: got a peach, which I'm really happy about. And I

542
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: love Candy, like I watched with is it Balero the

543
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: like stripper scene like that? Yes, And I love Phaedra

544
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: and I think that, like I don't know, for some reason,

545
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: it wasn't gelling in the way that it used to

546
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: because Atlanta is like one of the most iconic as

547
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean what you produced it for what

548
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: eight years? I mean, yeah, you're big you want to

549
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: talk about me at the view, You're a huge reason,

550
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: probably not the reason that show became so iconic, and

551
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: I do think that, like they need to mix it

552
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: up a little bit. And there was actually a cast

553
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: member that I was a fan of. I really liked

554
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Eva a lot, and I was like kind of following

555
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: her journey, and I was really pissed that she wasn't

556
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: included in the next season. And I really liked her

557
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: husband and I thought he was interesting he like ran

558
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: for mayor, and I was like, they need to explore

559
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: like his politics, his political career, like her being a

560
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: new mom. Like I really liked her, and I was

561
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: really sad that she wasn't invited back. So I feel

562
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: like I get so invested in these people that like

563
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a lot like daytime TV, but

564
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: it's a lot of consistent change. And I like my

565
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: people that I had for a while, and I think

566
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: Candy's carrying it like she has for a long I

567
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: think Candy is like one of the greatest reality TV

568
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: stars of all time, and you know, an absolute like

569
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: genius when it comes to like her business and music,

570
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: and she's kind of like a like goals for so

571
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: many people. I don't know how the hell she does

572
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: it with so many things in there. But yeah, but

573
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: I it's not like I am going to watch it,

574
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: but I kind of want to binge it, so I'm

575
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: gonna wait.

576
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

577
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: I caught the first episode and me and Dave Quinn,

578
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: who you know as well, Dave Quinn from People Magazine.

579
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: He's a huge Meggan McCain fan as well. We did

580
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: a review on the premiere and I gave the premiere

581
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: B plus. It was a great premiere. We watched the

582
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: second episode and the second episode wasn't as interesting. And

583
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: one thing I did say about Atlanta is the glory

584
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: days are gone. And that's what I'm hearing as you're

585
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: talking about the days of Nieni, Kim Zosiak, you know Faedra,

586
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: you know the Kenny Kenya.

587
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

588
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: Like that, that organic friendship is missing too. Yes, it

589
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: is missing the organic days. And the reason why I

590
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about Billy Hills to you is because

591
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: what they did so perfectly is the casting of that show,

592
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, Kyle Richards is

593
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: the face of the Belly Hills franchise. And although she's

594
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: the longest running OG on that show, is the organic

595
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: friendship she has with these people that aren't all new

596
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: Garsel is a great addition to that show.

597
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: I think she magnificent.

598
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: She I love Garcel Bubat and I look at that

599
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: and I compare that to Atlanta And at the end

600
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: of the day, Mimi Leaks will.

601
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: Always be the face of Atlanta Housewives.

602
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what you and I both agree on is

603
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: the missing element of the organic relationships.

604
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: And I'm with you with Eva. I thought Eva was

605
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: fired too soon.

606
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: And what bothers me is I think sometimes people make

607
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: casting decisions based on what they see on Twitter, and

608
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: Twitter is not the real world.

609
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Isn't that the truth? Yeah? I just thought Eva was

610
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: like she was the one that I like, really, I

611
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: don't know. I was like just such a fan and

612
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: I think she's like one of the most stunningly gorgeous

613
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: women ever on that show. I liked Cynthia. I just

614
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: feel like, if you can do like an OG cast

615
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: or even just bring back a few ogs, I will

616
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: probably be more invested. And again, like, I really like Kenya.

617
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: I know people don't, but I liked her too. I

618
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: actually like found like there's it was so raw and real,

619
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: like when you saw was her ex boyfriend named Matthew,

620
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: like when he came over to her house, Mark, excuse me,

621
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: when he came over to her house and like bashed

622
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: in her windows And you're like, like.

623
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: So wrong, I'm wrong. You're right. It was matt who

624
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: bashed through her door. Yes, matt uh huh.

625
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: And remember when he like he was so abusive to her,

626
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: and it was so hard and so raw. And this

627
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: is like a former Miss USA beauty queen who's you know,

628
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: also just like gorgeously stunning woman. And you see this

629
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: like raw, palpable, intense pain, like she went through so

630
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: much and she was like putting it out there. And

631
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: so I don't know, I really liked Atlanta. I will

632
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: I will watch this season. I just haven't yet because

633
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: I've been I've ben actually watching a few other shows

634
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: and then OC just ended and we have Beverly Hills again.

635
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: These franchises, I don't know if I think I'm like

636
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people and like you obviously like you

637
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: become connected to these people you root for who you

638
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: root for. I think that they have become really important

639
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: figures in pop culture. For different reasons. I think a

640
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: lot of times what's happening in America is really reflected

641
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: on the Housewives in a lot of different ways and

642
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: how they deal with life. And if it's too produced

643
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: and too saturated, that's when I stopped watching it and

644
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't like it. And I felt like the OC

645
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: this season was like ostensibly an infomercial for Heather, and

646
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: I didn't it just is like, it's fantastic that she

647
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: has a she does, she's a beautiful home, a beautiful family.

648
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: They all seem amazing. But you know, it didn't. I

649
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: didn't find it as as like compelling. I didn't find

650
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: a compelling television at all. Sorry, and I love Oz,

651
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: I really root for it too.

652
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: Wow, the season sucked. It's okay to say it's fine. Listen.

653
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: I think it's okay to be honest.

654
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: And what's interesting is we live in a world right

655
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: now where you can't even just be honest. OHC sucked.

656
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: It was not a great season. It's not a this

657
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: to anybody. Atlanta Housewives will never be what it was before,

658
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 3: and that's okay to say. But make this show the

659
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: best it can be. Beverly Hills is in his glory Days,

660
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: because this is what I'm going to say on the record.

661
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: The biggest mistake that was made was letting Porschia go

662
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: because you and I talked about this too, Megan, that

663
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: Porsche Simon situation, Flan that should have been the a

664
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: story to start off the new season of Atlanta, to

665
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: give it the momentum and the press because what happened

666
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: to Dereed was in Dere's robbery was in the press

667
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: for so many months. I believe the ratings contributed to

668
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: people's curiosity about Dereed talking about this robbery because we

669
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: saw it in the press for so long. So I

670
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: think if Porscha and Simon and that Falent and that

671
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: whole situation was a part of Atlanta, it would have

672
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: been it would have been high ratings.

673
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: But I am so.

674
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: Obsessed with this woman's personal life, Like Portia's personal life

675
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: fascinates me, and like everything with Dennis fascinated me, and

676
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: like I want to know everything again. If she had

677
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: been the main woman, you know, in the middle, and

678
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: we had like not very deep into her personal life,

679
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: I would have been watching the first original episode. But

680
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: there is a certain point where I'm like I can't

681
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: keep meeting new people, like please bring back the beloved figures.

682
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: And she's also like huge, you know, she's like a huge, huge, huge,

683
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: you know, not just reality to be star, but like

684
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: just I mean I would go so far as say

685
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: star in general. And so again, why let her go

686
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: someplace else? I mean, I know she has her own show,

687
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: but still like, I don't know whatever. But when it

688
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: comes to Beverly Hills, I did watch it. I think

689
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great season. At least I'm really

690
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: hoping it is. And but the robbery is very intense.

691
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: It's a very I mean it was in the news.

692
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's a very intense dark way to

693
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: open it. You know. I'm really happy this cast stayed

694
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: the same and they didn't make any changes. I'm very

695
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: curious about this new woman, the one they say looks

696
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: like Bridget Bardow, who's like, I'll be your villain. And

697
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I might like her, Like I like

698
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: this response and she's saying that to Sutton, right, isn't

699
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: she saying that's a thing she puts in her place? Ma'am?

700
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: Whoever the Navy is, I don't know.

701
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: Are you team Erica? Or team sign.

702
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: So Erica is like a personal friend for real, Like

703
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: we text and FaceTime and she's like a wonderful person personally.

704
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: I know everything everyone has to say. I know everything.

705
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: I still choose to be her friend, and I don't

706
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: care what haters say either. She came on the view

707
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: and performed on my birthday. She's a wonderful person. Had

708
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: the pandemic k not gone on, she was going to

709
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: perform at my baby shower, my last event. I know

710
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: it was gonna have, I know, and she was she said,

711
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: all that was pregnant, shut up, yep, and she she said,

712
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: of course I will. And again, it's one of the

713
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: saddest things about my like pandemic whatever. She's a lovely

714
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much. And I think again

715
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: it's another thing, like we bond over being hated, you know,

716
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, like she knows what it

717
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: feels like to have like the world, like think that

718
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: you're like whatever, like you know, crazy and divisive and

719
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: all these things. But I adore her and like I said,

720
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: she just she's such a good heart. You know. I

721
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: knew shit was coming down with her before the press did.

722
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Like she was cantid with me and we're like real friends.

723
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: So I will like ride for her forever and I don't. Again,

724
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't. There hasn't been a trial, she hasn't been charged.

725
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: And again, I think and the other thing that I

726
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: think is very very hypocritical is like, let's go to

727
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. Genshaw's allowed to just like trapes around

728
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: do a reunion where I didn't think her feet were

729
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: held to the fire and the way that she should have.

730
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: She's going to the New York court like district court attorney.

731
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: I actually texted one of my girlfriends who works for

732
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Fox News and she's a lawyer, and I like texted

733
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: her and she was like, these charges against Genshaw are

734
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: no joke. She was like, it's absolutely no joke the

735
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: level that it's rising to, and she was like if

736
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: these people were involved, like you know, you can't obviously

737
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: convict anyone until there's been a jury. But it's bad,

738
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: like very very very bad. And I felt like the

739
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: media and the fans have really given Genshaw pass. And

740
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: that being said, these don't come after me because I

741
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: already had Twitter drama this week Jenshaw, and I don't

742
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: want anymore. And I'm just saying I'm protecting my girl Erica.

743
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: But I felt like Erica was given such intense scrutiny,

744
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: and Jinshaw was kind of like, oh, there are these charges,

745
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: but like show amazing, and I thought that was kind

746
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: of bullshit.

747
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: It's interesting because I could not agree with you more.

748
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: I didn't think that her feet. I didn't think Genshaw's

749
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: feet were held with a fire at the reunion the

750
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: way Erica was. I think because Erica comes across so

751
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 3: ice cold that people are like, see, there's a reason

752
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 3: why we hate you, because they did not have a

753
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: reason before, because she just came across so stoic, Whereas Jenshaw,

754
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: like you said, sean amazing and she's whims the call

755
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: and she's funny. And what was so interesting to me

756
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 3: is Jenshaw is actually being charged with being the person

757
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: who got her hands dirty in this situation, whereas Erica's situation,

758
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: unless I'm wrong, it's truly by default based on what

759
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: her husband was doing. And of course you can say

760
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: whether or not she knew about it.

761
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: She didn't.

762
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, they're saying Erica's

763
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 3: husband allegedly did all these things. They're not saying Erica

764
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: Jane allegedly did these things. They're saying Erica Jane allegedly

765
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: was a part of it in the sense of receiving

766
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: the financial benefits from it. And it's weird because you

767
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 3: want to people are supporting jin because they feel like, well,

768
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: she's funny and they feel like Erica isn't remorseful. But

769
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, a crime is a crime.

770
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: But it's very interesting how that plays out on Twitter.

771
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: I never understood why people think she's so icy. And again,

772
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: maybe it's because I'm very similar. It's okay, not like

773
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm not best friends with everybody, Like I keep my

774
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: circle closed. I love who I love, I trust who

775
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: I trust, and I don't think that people should necessarily

776
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: have that kind of agency over you, especially in times

777
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: of crisis. And I felt like she was I know,

778
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: she was drowning for a long time and just trying

779
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: to like stay above water. And again, if it comes

780
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: out in court that like something that she has done

781
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: something wrong, fine, But until then, like I really that

782
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you, Carlos, I can't. She is a

783
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: literal she's like a actual friend of mine. I cannot

784
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: express to you how kind she has been to me,

785
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: how loyal she has been to me, how smart she is.

786
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: She's extremely politically savvy. We talk about politics all the time.

787
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: She watches cable news like and wants to talk about

788
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: things she's always freaked out about, like different things going

789
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: on in the world. And I really like her. I

790
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: can't even tell you how much I really like her.

791
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: And I don't like people mee meet her.

792
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: And I just really like.

793
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, and maybe I'm just gonna die on

794
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: this hill with my other controversial women, But I don't know.

795
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: I really wish people knew, Like during the pandemic, we

796
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: would like FaceTime and bed in our pajamas and I'd

797
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: be like, fuck this pandemic, It's awful. We're real friends,

798
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: We're real get real friends. I am real friends with Erica.

799
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: I guess wow, no lit and I love Erica Jane.

800
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: And it's funny because I got shipped from Twitter two

801
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: weeks ago when Erica had this Epics scene last season

802
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: where she told Sutton, miss Maltown, you shut up, miss

803
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: my motherfucking reputation be quiet.

804
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: I loved it, and.

805
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 3: I retweeted it saying she was the star last season.

806
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Erica Jane was the star of Beverly Hills

807
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: Housewives last season. If it was not for Erica Jane,

808
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: those ratings would not be high. It was her show,

809
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: her story, and the way she delivered. I don't care

810
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: if you agree.

811
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: With her or not. You have to agree. She makes

812
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: great television. She carried it on her back.

813
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: So I did an episode of the Greatest Housewives of

814
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: all time, my top ten. I would like for us

815
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: to play a game of the top five greatest you

816
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: co host of all times?

817
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: So you want me to are are you going to start?

818
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: You start, and then I'll go.

819
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: Okay.

820
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Carlos King's top five greatest view co hosts of all

821
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 3: time are in no particular order, Wood be Goldberg, Joy Behar,

822
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: Star Jones, Reynolds, Elizabeth Hasselback. And it's a tie between

823
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: Meghan and Sonny because to me, Meghan and Sonny change

824
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: the direction of the show and the reason why the

825
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: show skewed younger with female audiences is because of Sonny

826
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: and Meghan. Because they brought in pop culture. They brought

827
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: in stuff that my generation wants to listen to. They're

828
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 3: the reason why it trends on Twitter. Megan and Sonny

829
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: single handily change the direction of the View. And the

830
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: reason why I was sad to see you go is

831
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: because I thought Sonny and Meghan were the future of

832
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: the View.

833
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: So that's my top five greatest View co hosts of

834
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 2: all time.

835
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's really nice. I let me try to

836
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: think mine. Rosie. You gotta add Rosie in there, because again,

837
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: she changed the game too. She did like and she

838
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: made iconic television. And you know, again lover hater, a

839
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: lot of people ever hater her. But she's also the first,

840
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: I think, I think, the first openly LGBTQ host of

841
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: the View.

842
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, she was.

843
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: She was And wait isn't she like the first like

844
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 3: real bona fide celebrity that was the co host?

845
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

846
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: And she for me, like when I was sort of

847
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: cognizant of the View was when I was in college

848
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: when she and Elizabeth you know, like fought and there

849
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: was like all that drama. And I will I like

850
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: Rosie o'donald. I think she's really compelling television in general,

851
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: and like she's a little messy and so am I

852
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: So I like that. Star Jones and I just think again,

853
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: like another person who just like changed the show was

854
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: on for such a long time. Also, uh much like

855
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: so much of all all history. But like television history,

856
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: you look back on that period of time with Star

857
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: and you really appreciate what she was doing, how she

858
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: was doing it, and again the sort of outward celebrity

859
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: that she brought in, and she really used the show

860
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: and like help platform herself in a major way. What

861
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: be obviously, I mean, you can't take that away. Elizabeth

862
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: love Elizabeth and five is tricky. Let me think, Oh

863
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: my gosh, who else is there? I think that's God.

864
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: I gotta do one more. I guess, Sonny, just do Sonny.

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Speaker 2: Then that's good.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. Yes, I can't, Carla's I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't, And I'm so sorry I can't. We can't.

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Speaker 2: Did Joy respond to a tweet of yours?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it was so weird like a month ago

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Speaker 1: or two months ago, like like work responded some woman

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Speaker 1: who was a friend of hers, who I had actually met.

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Speaker 1: I put tweet up like a Valentine's d tweet to Ben,

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Speaker 1: my husband. I was like, I love you like and

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Speaker 1: I don't like love those but I also find I

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Speaker 1: do those because if you don't, people think you're having

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Speaker 1: marriage problems. So that's why I always people like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there was no Valentine's State whatever, and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of chaos in my life and thank god, I'm very

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Speaker 1: grateful my marriage is a place of stability, so whatever.

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Speaker 1: And this woman wrote not everything needs to be shared Megan,

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Speaker 1: and then Joy wrote like how did she write? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Would she say shit? She like wrote like apparently or

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Speaker 1: like I agree or something like that. I was like,

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Speaker 1: are we going home after the view? And trolling Megan's Twitter?

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Speaker 1: You know, like that's a really weird thing to do.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I just felt like it was

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Speaker 1: just so bizarre. I don't look at social media with

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Speaker 1: I try to have a go at social media trending

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Speaker 1: stuff in general or anything like that if I can.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes temptation happens, but it just seems like a very

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Speaker 1: weird thing, especially this far out of me leaving the

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Speaker 1: show that she's like still creeping on my social media.

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Speaker 3: So no, this, this, this was the This means the

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Speaker 3: world to me that you decided to hop my podcast.

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Speaker 3: I know that you don't do a lot of interviews.

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Speaker 3: Let me say this to the world. Megan does not

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Speaker 3: do a lot of interviews, so when I ask her

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Speaker 3: to be my podcast, within second she said, I would

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Speaker 3: love to. She said, I'm actually honored you would ask

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Speaker 3: me to do it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, totally, You've been so kind to me for so long.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see this, like incredible success you're having.

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Speaker 1: It's so warranted. You want to talk about next generation.

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Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, next generation hosts of late

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Speaker 1: night shows after reality shows. I think you're a great option.

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Speaker 1: You know, women feel comfortable around you and reality you know,

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Speaker 1: public people feel comfortable around you, and I think that

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Speaker 1: like that not to tell you how to do your career,

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Speaker 1: but I think that could be, like that's what my

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Speaker 1: vote would be. And I'm so glad you're doing late

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Speaker 1: night in general. But I know you're behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: person obviously and very iconically so, but Jay on Error

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Speaker 1: in front of the camera, it's it's really you're such

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Speaker 1: a great presence. So and your your fans are going

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Speaker 1: to be like Ella the love us.

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Speaker 2: But I no, no, I'm kind of cheering up.

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Speaker 3: No thing that means the world to me. It is

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Speaker 3: my hope that after listening to this podcast, that you

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Speaker 3: walk away having a better understanding of Meghan McCain. Follow

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Speaker 3: her via Instagram and Twitter at Meghan McCain thoughts opinions

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Speaker 3: read tunny about my conversation with Megan. Email me at

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Speaker 3: Reality with the King at stitri dot com or leave

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Speaker 3: me a voicemail at three one oho five ninety three

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Speaker 3: eighth one eight eight. Thank you for listening to Reality

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Speaker 3: at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram and Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Tweek me your thoughts and hot.

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Speaker 3: Reality with the King is a production of More Sauce

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Speaker 3: by Stitcher. It is executive produced by me, Carlos King,

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Speaker 3: and Jasmine Heinley Brown. We are also produced by Sierras

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Speaker 3: Bradley Rix, engineering and music by Marcus

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