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Because The Athletic 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 3: published a long form piece Mike Sander front of the 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: show speaking to anonymous executive at all the offseason moves, 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: what they like, where they didn't like, and one of 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: them that stood out involved what's going on in Houston 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: and Houston you may have a problem because one anonymous 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 3: exec told The Athletic that he believes that the Texans 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: are setting the stage for a quarterback change in Houston. 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: As you guys know, c Strat eligible for an extension, 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: not getting it, they decided to pick up the fifth 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: year option, and we're gonna see how it goes here. 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: The exact said quote. I think GM Nick Cassario is 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: going to let it go year by year with Stroud, 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: he may very well be inclined to draft another guy. 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: It could be another year of Davis Mills as the 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: backup and then Casario drafts another quarterback. 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: You know what this is sound football management? It really is. 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: Nobody the idea. After CJ. 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 5: Stroud's first year, he was the cats mew remember everybody's 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 5: picked to go to the Super Bowl. His second year, 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 5: he had the audacity to be one of those guys 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 5: on the couches talking about that he him Mahomes and 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 5: naming other quarterbacks. 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 4: You remember that where the best quarterbacks? 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 5: He said his name after Patrick Mahomes, which was just shot. 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 5: I mean, like after one year and if you remember, 35 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 5: he went to every party and he was everywhere else 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: host of the town. 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: He lived it up. 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 5: And I sit here today and tell you the reason 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 5: that the Houston Texans didn't make it to the. 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 4: Super Bowl with a Super Bowl defense was because of c. J. 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: Stroud and the idea that they won't give him a 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 5: contract and they gonna let him play it out. Tells 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 5: you all you need to know. So I don't have 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 5: a problem with this. He has regressed. You could talk 45 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 5: about receivers being heard and all these other issues and 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 5: the offensive line is the last three years, not the 47 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 5: first year. I'll tell you that. And I would be 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: I believe that the Texans are smart. Why would you 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 5: put all your eggs in that basket if this guy 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 5: has another stinker? Like seriously, And I was the one 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 5: who thought that they should have stuck with the backup, 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 5: you remember, because he had played well and they were winning, 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 5: and they didn't even go to him in the playoffs 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: with all those turnovers and again he had more turnovers 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 5: than the bakery, and then he fumbled the ball a lot. 56 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: They got it back, So. 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 5: Those turnovers didn't you know, they didn't count, but he 58 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 5: was haffing up the ball left and right. I'm sorry. 59 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 5: I love what the Texans are thinking here. Make this 60 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 5: kid earn it, play well, take a race to doubt. 61 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 5: But right now, if you're if you're CJ. Strout of 62 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: your fan of CJ. Stroud, the Texans have nothing but 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 5: doubt when it comes to. 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 4: Him, and justifiably. 65 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: So Listen, you can't have now played three years and 66 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: only one was good and I'm supposed to think you're 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: that guy. Patrick Mahomes can have an off season or 68 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: two because he's put in six, seven, eight, nine, other 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: really good to great to Hall of Fame worthy seasons. 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 6: C J. 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: Stroud hasn't done that. The Patriots man beat that man 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: into a haircut. Rob that made that man get a 73 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: whole new haircut. They said, man cut the locks, cut 74 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: the locks once they lost that playoff game. 75 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: So when you look at what CJ. 76 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Stroud has been doing over the last couple of years, well, 77 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: he said her career high in interceptions two seasons ago, 78 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty four with twelve. So he said, 79 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: all right, a rough season, little banged up a little bit. 80 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: Let's see how the next one goes. And the next one. 81 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: It was this past season where again he had all 82 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: of these turnovers. Didn't he only had what was it, 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: nineteen touchdowns and he had fourteen eight interceptions in fourteen games. 84 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: So nineteen touchdowns, eight interceptions in fourteen games. He only 85 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: had three thousand yards. And we saw what he did 86 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: in the playoffs where he committed seven turnovers in two 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: playoffs games this year. So he became the first player 88 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: ROB with five or more interceptions and five or more 89 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: fumbles in a single postseason. 90 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: It was only two games. That's insane. 91 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 5: It wasn't like he had a Super Bowl run that 92 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 5: was pretty bad, but at least they won the Super Bowl. 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: So CJ. 94 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Shroud absolutely has put this in their mind that they 95 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: need to have a backup and it might not even 96 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: a backup play. They might need to just have a 97 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: better quarterback because what they're not gonna do is waste 98 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl caliber defense, which is what they did 99 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: last year, waste a very very good young head coach 100 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: that I'm sure is getting some calls. I'm sure his 101 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: agent has received a few calls. They're not gonna waste that. 102 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: And they also what we learn in life is pressure 103 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: can either you can either fold or it can make 104 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: a diamond. Right, it can either bust or you can 105 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: make a diamond. And so we'll see some pressure putting 106 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: a little pressure on ces S. 107 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: Trout. 108 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 5: Does he come out and say, you know, we get 109 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 5: the best version of cz S Trout or does he 110 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 5: fumble and crumble under the pressure. 111 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: So we'll have to find out. 112 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: But they're absolutely within their rights to say we want 113 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: to look elsewhere because we don't know how long we 114 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: have this defense. We don't long out we have our coach, 115 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: and we don't know how long. Our opportunity is gonna 116 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: last in this conference that has some young, really good, 117 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: talented young quarterbacks. 118 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: And he's the reason why, I mean, you can say whatever. 119 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 5: He's the reason why they didn't get to the super 120 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 5: Bowl because he didn't have to play extra special, he 121 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 5: didn't have to play Brad Johnson was the mold, Trent 122 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 5: Delfer was the Trent Delphian, one of those. 123 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 4: Guys, and I remember to. 124 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 5: Turn it over, Dane Olowski got a lot of grief 125 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 5: because he said, basically, any quarterback would have been able 126 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 5: to play better than him at that point. 127 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: And they were still in that game rut with five 128 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: I know, interceptions, but whatever was three or four at 129 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: the first half. 130 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was. 131 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 5: It was bad, and it was enough to make them 132 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 5: pause their whole idea of re signing him, giving them 133 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 5: that contract, even though that first year was as good 134 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: as it gets. And I would be, uh, I'm with them. 135 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 5: I think the Texans are doing the right thing. You 136 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: have to, they gotta, they have to protect what they 137 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 5: have right now. He has not earned that legacy. Tom Brady, 138 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers. 139 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: Maybe we're wrong. 140 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: Maybe there are people out there who's seen enough and 141 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 5: you think that CJ. Stroud could lead you to the 142 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 5: promised land. 143 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 144 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: the nation. 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If he doesn't because 160 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: he doesn't reach the sixty five game rule because his 161 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: body's banged up, will he be able to be considered 162 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: among the greats if he doesn't have the trophy room 163 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: like everybody else. 164 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 5: It's easy for me, Rob, and it's the answer is no. 165 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 5: Basketball is one of those sports. 166 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: Will, when you're that guy, and again we're not saying 167 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna be really really good or a while. 168 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: There's a lot of guys like that. 169 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: When you're talking to Pantheon the top ten, top five, 170 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: top fifteen, you have to come with hardware and things 171 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: would have had to have happened. You would have had 172 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: to have been MVP several times, you'd have had to 173 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: win a multiple championship. Like is there a single person 174 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: in the top two in top twelve who only has 175 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: like one ring? 176 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 5: You know that we all kind of university agreed, like 177 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 5: the obviously the Bill Russells and and and and Kobe's. 178 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 4: Chamberlain did not call on him. But yeah, he won. 179 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 5: Is that he didn't win enough. No, he wanted to heah, 180 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 5: I want to Philly one with the Lakers, Lakers, but 181 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: he didn't win enough. As dominant as he was, that 182 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 5: was always and that would be one of the examples, right, Well, 183 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 5: Wilt has all the numbers. 184 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: Every time you look at a record, change the game 185 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: for Will. 186 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: Yep, so Will, But that's an example Will kind of 187 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: there was something left to be desired on the winning end. Obviously, 188 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: he was going to give him those Celtics teams and 189 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: it's only eight team so it's almost not fair if 190 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: you really start to get older. 191 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 5: When you get older, you start to break it down. 192 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 5: But you got to have those awards. 193 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: You gotta absolutely have because like my point is, in basketball, 194 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: a single person can change the game, right you get 195 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: a Lebron, a Stephan, Kobe, Shack MJ. 196 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 4: It's not like that in base and. 197 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 5: You could be great and if you don't have to 198 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 5: worry or you don't have God makes a bad play, 199 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 5: you know, like you could lose like Barry Bonds. 200 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that and you might not win. 201 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: Baseball is the only sport of the Major three, maybe 202 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: even hockey as well, if you want to go Major 203 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: four where. 204 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: You can just be great. 205 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: Rob you talking about all time the benchmarks, like all right, 206 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: I hit the three thousand, I hit five hundred home 207 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: and you can be we can vote you in. It's 208 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: all one of the all time greats. And basketball, if 209 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: you don't win a ring or two or three, an 210 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: MVP or two. 211 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: Less Tracy McGrady and you were in a forty basketball but. 212 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: Nobody puts in the top fifteen. But if it were 213 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: top just peer unadult trated talents. Tmac might be top 214 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: fifteen just pure talent. 215 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 5: If it was NBA Hall of Fame, I don't know 216 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: if he'd be in. I'm dead c Mack. Yeah, if 217 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: there was an NBA Hall of Fame, he probably wouldn't. 218 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 5: But it's so hard. 219 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: He's so weird, him and Carmelo because there's a five 220 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: year period where both of them were the number two 221 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: players for like a five year period, the best, second, third, 222 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: best player in the league. So it's hard and like, 223 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: how can I explain this period of like a bunch 224 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: of two thousand and one toll Like, oh, sim but you. 225 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 5: Talked about winning and not to get out of the 226 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 5: first round like that, not to lose in the finals 227 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 5: or not to to not get out of the first 228 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 5: round at any point. 229 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: In your career. Is my bomb back? He was so good, 230 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: one of my favorite players to watch. 231 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 5: T Mac was incredib Remember there was a legitimate casemach 232 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 5: or Kobe for a few. 233 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: Years that was a time all NBA player. 234 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: If you said tam Mac over Kobe, somebody might disagree, 235 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: but it wasn't crazy. 236 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: He was like, all right, I ain't mad at that. 237 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: Well, t Mac is one of those guys I think 238 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 3: in a larger extent, Steph Curry is one of those 239 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: guys where the way he makes you feel when you 240 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 3: watch him play, you say, well, that's one of the 241 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: greatest players I've ever seen. And then the problem is 242 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: when you compare the resume of a T Mac with 243 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: a Dwayne Wade or a compare to Steph Curry with 244 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: a Kobe Bryant, it's like, well, you're not even close 245 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: to resume wise, and that's the thing that's that Wendy's 246 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: gonna We just had a conversation during one of the 247 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: commercial break before the show started. Brandon, one of the 248 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: weekend producers, game in it says, I think Jalen Brown 249 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: is a better player than Jason Tatum before the injury. 250 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 3: And it's like, but why He's like, well, because he 251 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: does this. It is like that's fine, But if you 252 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: look at the resumes, they don't that's close, don't. They 253 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: don't match up. And that's the thing that Wenby could 254 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: run into because just watching him play, people are saying, now, 255 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: he's the best finer I've ever seen. 256 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 5: Does Steph Curry have better accolades than Kobe No? Kobe 257 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 5: has a whole nother one. Yes, I argued that, but 258 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 5: I was just thinking's that he has an extra MVP. Uh, 259 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 5: step yeah, he has the first ever unanimous which is 260 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 5: crazy because Michael Jordan did exist. 261 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all knew that he's got what four? 262 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 4: Kobe's got five? 263 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: So I mean it's not crazy like Coch, Like Steph's 264 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: accolades are kind of nuts, and I don't believe he's 265 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: top ten me personally. 266 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 4: Who Steph? You no, don't, don't don't. I don't like 267 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 4: when you agree, all right? How dare you agree? No? 268 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 4: I don't. 269 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 8: Some people have Steph Curry got five. It's crazy the 270 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 8: gap between Kobe and Steph because if you're putting him 271 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 8: top five, that's crazy to me. I mean top what 272 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 8: you say ten or five? I mean if somebody has 273 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 8: in top two, I'm not mad if they having in 274 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 8: the top ten. 275 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: So it's one championship, one finals MVP for all NBA 276 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: the teams and twelve all defensive teams. So it's a 277 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: whole nother Hall of Fame career on top of Steph Curry. 278 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: Like that's the thing is that people don' understand we 279 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: were talking about the top ten players of all time 280 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: is the resumes with Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Kobe Bird, Lebron. 281 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And that's why it is so ridiculous that 282 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: no matter what how Steph made you feel or how 283 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: Wemby made you feel, like bro, that list is incredibly 284 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: difficult to right. 285 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 5: And that's why I started laughing how we just dropped 286 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: people out, like Larry Bird is getting dropped. 287 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: Out so easily, like hold on, hold on, Larry Bird. 288 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: I don't think people understand how good Larry Bird. That 289 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: bird was ridiculous. And that was the NBA that I covered. 290 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: I watched him play. I was up sitting courtside. He 291 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: was incredible. 292 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 5: Like I'm like, y'all get a little carried away with this, 293 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 5: like just because you didn't see somebody. I tell people 294 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 5: that all the time. Stop with all that, Like Martin 295 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 5: Luther King wasn't a great man because you went around 296 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 5: the sixteen man that was in black and white. Oh 297 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 5: you know what, I exactly That's what I'm saying. Well, yeah, 298 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 5: you almost, man, boy, I almost had a dream. Don't 299 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 5: play with me. 300 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 301 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 6: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 302 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 6: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 303 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 6: iHeartRadio app. 304 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 3: Well, first off with Floyd. As you guys know, we 305 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: broke it on this show. Floyd Mayweather signed a deal 306 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: to fight Manny Pacyale this September at the Sphere e 307 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 3: from Salam and his company set it up. So that 308 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: was big news for us. Now we've found out in 309 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 3: the last couple of days that Floyd is now saying 310 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: we don't know if he's going to be at the 311 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: Sphere and it's only going to be an exhibition, Yeah, 312 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: which is great, Pakias saying, no, that's not the case. 313 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: We have three different contracts that you've signed. Each time 314 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 3: you signed it, you took money out for signing that 315 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 3: of a contra. No, just you signed this portion, you 316 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: get this amount of money you signed it. So he's 317 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: done those three. He's already also taken it advance on 318 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 3: his purse anticipation of September's fight. Right, So that's one 319 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: number two. Kirk Cousins just signed with the Raiders, right. 320 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: It's basically a one year, twenty million dollars fully guaranteed, 321 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: even though. 322 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 5: They announced so they got that looking like three years 323 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: eighty million or because they put all the void years 324 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. But why stop As an agent, 325 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: I would be like, we're not announcing that. 326 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: No, he did not. It helps the agent us. It 327 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: looks because he doesn't get that money though. 328 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 5: You I know, you know that, I know that, you 329 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: know that I know. But everyone else just sees ooh 330 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 5: three as you can go. 331 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: Look, man, I just get all these people that's on 332 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: the top agent and they know Adam Schefter will put 333 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: it out there. 334 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: Yep, it's so adigitant. Dude. That was one of the 335 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 4: more misleading ones of all times. 336 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: Actually, So that's just contact with kirk Cousins, right, he 337 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: got the one year, twenty million. Kirk Cousins, since twenty sixteen, 338 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: after his rookie deal expired, has signed seven different contracts, 339 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: either free agency or extensions, all of them all fully guaranteed, 340 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: totally three hundred and forty eight point eight million dollars. 341 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: He has one playoff win in his career. It is. 342 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 5: It is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And 343 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 5: those owners. You remember when Deshaun Watson got the fully 344 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 5: guaranteed it was the end of the world, but they 345 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 5: keep for whatever reason, kirk Cousin gets to walk in 346 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 5: there and negotiate and then give him a fully guaranteed contract, 347 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 5: which is mind boggling, especially without the results. 348 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: I think he's the Jesse James of the NFL. 349 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 5: He has robbed team after team after team and not delivered, you. 350 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 4: Know, like he did you like that? No, we don't 351 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: like that. We don't like that. And that's the thing 352 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: I'm talking about is due. 353 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 5: When I think of guys who have robbed sports organizations, 354 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: fleeced teams, taking ill gotten gains, kirk Cousin's name gets 355 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: the top of the list. 356 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: You just said he went over three hundred and forty 357 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: million dollars. I'm looking at it right now. 358 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: We got it at three twenty one, but it's somewhere 359 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: in there three when one playoff win. Oh with the 360 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: twenty yeah, plus the twenty yep three forty one three yep. 361 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: Because of that that twenty on top of the three 362 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: twenty one YEP. Listen. I told Rob G I asked him, 363 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: we're going over the show, and I said, where can 364 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: I get a pool shisty? Where can if somebody listening 365 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: right now who might not know Pooh Shisty is known 366 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: for having all these ski masks like you know where 367 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: you you do well. 368 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: Obviously he could be scheming, but you can rob somebody 369 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 4: and dagg it. His new name. 370 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: It used to be Kirk your cousin, not my cousin, 371 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: was his nickname for me. Now it is Kirk Shisty 372 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: because he is out here robbing the bank. The idea 373 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: that Kirk Cousins at the end of his career may 374 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: have earned more than any like top five player of 375 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: all time is crazy. 376 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 5: Really, it really really is. I don't know what they 377 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 5: love about Kirk Cousins. I don't know what they feel like. 378 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 5: He can walk in and they gonna just give him 379 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 5: whatever he wants. 380 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: It's mind boggle. 381 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't know yet to your point, I mean, is 382 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: he has he had a good career, yeah, not almost 383 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: half a billion dollars for one playoff win. He is 384 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: officially for me Kirk Seisty, and I hope that's you know. 385 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: He had the little one where he had to chain 386 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: on he was on the plane of hype and put 387 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: the poush heisty on that saga. 388 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 5: I need that, But he don't get the other guy, 389 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 5: Floyd Mayweather, who were mentioned earlier. He's on that list too, 390 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: and I know he's made a ton of money. Those 391 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: fights horrible, just horrible. Oh he's a defensive specialer you 392 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 5: don't know about. 393 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: That's good. 394 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 5: Not entertaining? Can I can I say not entertaining? Especially 395 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 5: at the end I just did. I wasn't interested in 396 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 5: watching them. They were boring fights. 397 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: Here's why I will push back on the Floyd because 398 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: there was a point when he was Floyd, pretty boy Floyd, 399 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: and that boy was fighting, scrapping, he scrapping, and then 400 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: even though a little bit of the beginning of money 401 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: made with Coda obviously Oscar de la Hoya Sugar Shade, 402 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: he was scrapping for a handful of years. And I'm 403 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: knowing I'm missing a couple other fights you could throw 404 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: out there to me. Floyd did it where he ended 405 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: up earning the chance to be a robber. I'll give 406 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: you that at the end, but he kind of earned 407 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: that chance. Kirk has never really done that much to 408 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: warrant all of this. But wait a minute, he's been solid, 409 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: he's been good at some time. 410 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 5: I'll give him that, he's been good at it, But 411 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 5: what about the McGregor fight. What was that was? 412 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 4: And you know what it was? So he even knew 413 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: that that. 414 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: You remember the video before what they had on the 415 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 5: they had ski mask on and they were like, we 416 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 5: robbed everybody. They even like hit it about it because 417 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: they knew that that was a highway robber. I told 418 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 5: you it was the first time in American history that 419 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: a white guy got welfare from a black person because 420 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 5: that MacGregor got paid out for what I don't know, 421 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: Like they just wanted to give him money. 422 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. 423 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: And I yeah, we watched it because we didn't know 424 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 5: what we were watching. Now we kind of know the scheme, 425 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 5: the scams, the you know it was a scam. But 426 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 5: uh yeah, But at least Floyd I could say he 427 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 5: earned the right to control his own destiny because. 428 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: He's still stealing money. I don't disagree the last little bit. 429 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: He was definitely out here sticking them up. But Kirk 430 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: Cousins is in there. 431 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 5: Who else thinking we need more names and we're gonna 432 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 5: ask people eight seven seven ninety a few guys on 433 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 5: who we uh rendon for the Angels. Another guy that's 434 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 5: a good one. He's another guy signed that big constant. 435 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 5: What did he just look it up real quick? What 436 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 5: did he signed for when he can? Because you remember 437 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 5: he helped the Nationals win the World Series against the 438 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 5: Dodgers and was outstanding, and then he got paid, came 439 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 5: to Anaheim and has been told ye heard from him since. 440 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 5: And you remember he was the one who said his 441 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: family mad at more than playing. And I'm like, dude, 442 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 5: you don't have to say that. Everybody's family, we know that, right, 443 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 5: Your family comes first. Why would you Why would you 444 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 5: do that to fans and act like he don't care, Like. 445 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, ooh, I got I got a few good ones here. 446 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 5: Don't throw them all because you want to hear what 447 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 5: people come up. I'm not gonna do too much anybody else. 448 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: I knew I got a couple of NBA ones that 449 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: that this one. Monty said Kawhi because he's always heard Manta. 450 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: I can't believe you said Kawhi. That's my line. You 451 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 5: y'all love him. 452 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: I love him too, but daggady always hurt not playing. 453 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: I even just said, why God, we laughed at Kawhi 454 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 4: for the last nine years on this. There's no comparison 455 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 4: to Anthony Rendon. 456 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: There is no, I might have. 457 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: One up to what did he played three games? It 458 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: feels like I might have a one up for you guys. 459 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: Save it, don't don't get now I do. 460 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: I am gonna throw it out because he was on 461 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: the same he's in the same team at one point. 462 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: But does it count because he had issues and this 463 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: one I thought of what I was looking at it. 464 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 5: I know, I knowsh Hamilton, Josh Hamilton, who had the 465 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 5: real drug like challenges, but they signed him. 466 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 4: They gave him a lot of money. 467 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 5: He was a hell of a player, remember me won 468 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 5: the home run Derby? 469 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: He was He was that guy for for a couple 470 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: of seasons. So he's kind of one of those weird 471 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: ones because it's like we never you know. But maybe 472 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: that's a part of it in the sense of you 473 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: know that you're paying for some challenges, right you know 474 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: what I mean, You're you're also paying for some issues 475 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: with somebody. 476 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 4: But I got I got a few one here that 477 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: you guys got me. 478 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: Not one to list him right now, but there's a 479 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: couple that I think people agree with. 480 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 3: Well real quick, can I defend Kirk Cousins not just 481 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: because he's the Raiders' quarterback. 482 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 4: But here we go. But it was a good take. 483 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: Here Rob most prominently on the airwaves, but we didn't 484 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: have talked off the air about this a lot. 485 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: Our biggest issue with Patrick. 486 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 3: Mahomes at the time when he signed that four and 487 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: fifty million dollars contract was you had all this leverage. 488 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: If there's anybody who asked leverage, I was mad, why 489 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: are you not using your leverage to get the fully 490 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: guaranteed deal. 491 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 4: And giving Kansas City some some hometown exactly. So that 492 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: was the issue. 493 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, I will argue, despite only having one playoff win, 494 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: has used his leverage better than any NFL player we've 495 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: ever seen, because he's just good enough where you know 496 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: that if you replace him, you gotta start all over again. 497 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 498 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 3: But he's not good enough to be Mahomes, Rogers, Manning, whoever. 499 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 4: Right. 500 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 3: But what he has done is he's like, I'm gonna 501 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: take two and three year deals. I'm gonna take instead 502 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 3: of going for five years two fifty like everyone else doing, 503 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take three years, one hundred. I'm gonna take 504 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: four years, one twenty five whatever it is fully guaranteed, 505 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: and then by the time my deal is up, either 506 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: the cap number is gonna be so high where you 507 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: can't keep me. You gotta start all over, or you 508 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: got to extend me for more guaranteed money. So he 509 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: should be applauded for what he's done rather than ridiculed. 510 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: No, I'm applauding his agent. I ain't applauding him because 511 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? 512 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: Listen? 513 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 5: No, no on, I'll just side. Economically speaking, he mastered that. 514 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 4: I'll give you that. 515 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: Him and his agent mastered the how to do it? 516 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: When to do with the strategic You read of contracts right, 517 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: just give me all of it at once. He's like, now, 518 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go here. Lebron's kinda done that. I'm gonna 519 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: go one year deal here, I'm gonna go two here, 520 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go four here, and I'm gonna do one 521 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: here so that you can maximize it. But at the 522 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: end of the day, he's still kirk shisty because I 523 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: got one playoff win. 524 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: After all of that, I got one. 525 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: Sam Donald has to pass him already, Sam Donald, And 526 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: he got a Super Bowl ring yep. 527 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 4: Nick Foles is running around here. He got a statue 528 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: after him. Nah, But he got a super Bowl ring. 529 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 4: He won a statue of a play, didn't they. They 530 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: made a statue in the locker room, the locker right. 531 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, not a wild End Down, Nicholas, but the more 532 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: derogatory version of it. 533 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I wouldn't. I thought it was the play that 534 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: the Little Special. I thought the Philly Special got a status. 535 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 5: It's called a Philly Special, but not the one you're 536 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 5: talking copy of that copy. 537 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: That just slanging cheese steaks out there? 538 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: Who anybody from Philly here? No, it should bibbles. Anybody 539 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: from Philly call in and tell me I'm right. But 540 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: it's Issha Bibbles. That's the bomb spot out there. Yeah 541 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: you didn't go. We were in ABJ twenty eleven. No, 542 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: Isha Bibbles. I had to go get a Chili's cheese. 543 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: Take. I'll hit Tim Parker up, ask him some good 544 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 4: Philly spots. 545 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 5: Tim would know what each from Philly, A top Parker 546 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 5: from Philly. What