1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Everything in our society automatically creates disease, our process, diet, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: our century lifestyles, chronic stress. You know, I was with 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: this guy, Silvio, on top of this mountain in Sardinia, 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: who was two hundred sheeps and goat and his family 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: lived there for one hundred of years, and so I said, 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: I said, Silvio, so do you have any stress in 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: your life? And he looked at me like it was 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: the weirdest freaking question he'd ever even asked. And then 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, you know, sometimes at night a goat 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: gets loose and I have to go get it. 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I am so excited because this is the 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: first time we're in the same room, in the same 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: space together. But I've been a follower and a fan 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: and an admirer of his work for a very, very 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: long time. I'm talking about doctor Mark Hyman, a practicing 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: family physician and an internationally recognized leader, speaker, educator, and 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: advocate in the field of functional medicine. Doctor Hyman is 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: the founder and director of the Ultra Wellness Center, senior 38 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: Advisor for the Cleveland Clinic Center for Functional Medicine, a 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: fourteen time New York Times best selling author, and Board 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: President for Clinical Affairs for the Institute for Functional Medicine. 41 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: Doctor Hyman is the host of one of the leading 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: health podcasts, The Doctor's Pharmacy. If you haven't subscribed, make 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: sure you do. And Doctor Hyman is a regular medical 44 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: contributor to several television shows and networks, including CBS, This Morning, Today, 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: Good Morning America, The View, and CNN. He's also an 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: advisor and co host of many shows. And today were 47 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: tooms new book Young Forever, The Secrets to Living your longest, 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: healthiest life. And I know this is what you want. 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: So when you go and grab a copy of this book, 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: it's available as we speak. Make sure you go and 51 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: order a copy of the book. This step by step 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: program is to reverse disease, ease pain, and renew energy. 53 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: Please welcome to On Purpose for the second time, Doctor 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: Mark Hyman. Thank you so much. Yeah, it's okay to 55 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: see you, man, No, thank you for being here. I mean, 56 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, your work is so practical, it's so accessible. 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad we get to finally be in person. And 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: I remember last time you came on the show, everyone 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: absolutely loved it. So I can't wait for this inhuman 60 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: person connection. But I want to start because when I 61 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: was reading through this book, a lot of stuff came up. 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: This this really stood out to me, really stood out 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: to me. I want to dive straight in. Go let's go. 64 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: You said, for every ten percent of your diet that 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: is ultra processed food, your risk of dyeing goes up 66 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: fourteen percent. So wait, I'll repeat that for everyone, For 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: every ten percent of your diet that is ultra processed food, 68 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: your risk of dying goes up to fourteen percent. You're 69 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: saying that's for every ten percent. Yeah, that's one percent 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: of our diet and sixty seven percent of kids diets 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: today in America. And what's ultra processed food? It's basically 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: food like substances. It's not really food. I mean, processed 73 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: food is not bad. Sour crouts processed food, miso processed food. 74 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: You know, can sardines and canned tomatoes. That's processed food. 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: That's okay. But it's the ultra processed food, which is 76 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: where they take the raw materials from soy, wheat and 77 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: corn that are grown through industrial agriculture. They break them 78 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: in part to the component parts. They reassemble them in 79 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: foodlike substances, which are all color, size and shapes of 80 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: chemically extruded foods. That have no resemblance to anything we're 81 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: ever eaten for most of our evolutionary history and are 82 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: extremely triggering for all the ancient pathways to cause disease. 83 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: So if you want to get sick and die early, 84 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: eat processed food. Yeah. Well, with this conversation of how 85 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: our diet and our gut health being linked to longevity 86 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: and aging, it's something that's i mean, been around for 87 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: for a long long time, but I feel like we're 88 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: only really having this conversation now and more and more 89 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: people are moving in that action. Would you agree with that? 90 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: I think it's true. I don't think And honestly, I've 91 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: been in practicing medicine for over thirty years and I 92 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: can't tell you how shocking it is to somebody my 93 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: well educated patients that food has anything to do with 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: how they feel. I mean, like, forget about disease. It's 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: like and most doctors, if you ask, you know, just 96 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: food have any to do that arthritis or rumors arthritis 97 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: or you know, cancer or dementia, They're gonna don't know, 98 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: you know. But it's absolutely the biggest driver. It's the 99 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: single biggest thing we do every day, which is interact 100 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: with literally pounds of foreign material that we have to digest, 101 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: breakdown and assimilate. And in the food is not just calories, 102 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: it's information, it's instructions. It's code that regulates every aspect 103 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: of your biology, for good or bad. And so we 104 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: now understand how these ancient systems in our body that 105 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: either can activate longevity and healing or can cause disease, 106 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: are influenced by the information and food. So food is 107 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: medicine but can also be poison. So ultra process food 108 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: is literally poison. It's addictive, it dries, inflammation, it accelerates 109 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: every age related disease we know of, from cancer to hearts, 110 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: thease to diabetes and dementia, depression, everything you can posibly imagine. 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: Even violence and divisiveness and hatred in our society are 112 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: driven by food. And I talked about this in my 113 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: last book, Food Fixed. Where in prisons, if they give 114 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: prisoners healthy food, the violent crime goes down by fifty 115 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: six percent. If they give it in juvenile detention centers, 116 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: their violence goes down by our ninety percent. The restriction 117 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: that these and news restraints goes down by seventy five percent. 118 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: Suicide goes down by one hundred percent. That's a third 119 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: leading cause of death in this population. So food is 120 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: so important to so many aspects of our physical and 121 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: mental health. So we need to understand how our bodies 122 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: interact with food and how we've co evolved with food 123 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: and how to turn on the right signals in the 124 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: body to activate well being and joy and pleasure and 125 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: also all these ancient longevity switches. So that's really a 126 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: lot about my book Young credits about it is about 127 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: how do we activate these ancient longevity switches, these ancient 128 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: healing systems. So they quote from the book from the 129 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: are you Vedic science was that when diet is wrong, 130 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: medicine is of no use, and when diet is correct, 131 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: medicine is of no need. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's 132 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: an ancient bit of wisdom from your culture. But it's yeah, 133 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: it's as true as it ever was. Yeah, No, it's 134 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: it's really interesting to me. So my my wife's an 135 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: ioredic practitioner and so yeah, and so she's an iretic 136 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: health counselor and that's kind of her field of study. 137 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: And what's really interesting about what you're saying and when 138 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about being young forever? I think the challenge 139 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: is when you are young in age, you don't ever 140 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: feel fallible, like you almost feel and I and I 141 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: remember relating to that feeling of yeah, I'm probably gonna 142 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: feel like this forever, right, Yeah. And then you start 143 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: getting older and I'm not, you know, I mean, I'm 144 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: thirty five now and ancient and yeah, and it's but 145 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: you start to notice different things and you start thinking 146 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: about these things more often. Like I didn't have to 147 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: think about my digestion until I was like thirty, and 148 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: you start thinking about it or your energy levels or 149 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: like what was possible and what wasn't. And I consider 150 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: myself to be someone who wants to live an optimal life. Yeah, 151 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't just want to sit back and do nothing 152 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: to live a long life. I want to live a 153 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: life for I'm of service and I'm living my purpose 154 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: and I'm being able to have deep experiences. So when 155 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: you talk about being young forever, what are the things 156 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: that we're doing that are aging us faster? And this 157 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: so much? I mean, the first thing I say is 158 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: that the purpose of being young forever is not to 159 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: live a heatedness of life and seek pleasure and just 160 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: being narcissistic It's about being able to show up in 161 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: your life fully, being able to love and serve and 162 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: do the things that you want to do, To engage 163 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: in life in a meaningful, purposeful way, to be able 164 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: to be president in relationships, to show up for your 165 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: friends and family and community, to give be of service, 166 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, like nim Caroli Baba said, love everybody, serve everybody, 167 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: feed everybody. I think that's how it sums up the book. 168 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: I think that there's so many things that we are 169 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: doing unconsciously that are disrupting our ability to live well 170 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: and age well and feel good. And there are many 171 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: cultures around the world like the Blue Zones which I visited, 172 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: like Sardinia and Korea, where the defaults are all automatically 173 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: making them healthy. If all you have to eat is 174 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: your local wild foods and whole unprocessed foods, you're gonna 175 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: eat that. If if you have to hike five miles 176 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: a day up and down rocky terrain to shepherd your 177 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: goats and sheep, you're gonna do that. You're not going 178 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: to go to the gym, right. If you have to 179 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: like lift big logs and build things, that's how you're 180 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: gonna stay strong. Their community and their relationships are such 181 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: an embedded part of their whole culture. So they had 182 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: these automatic defaults that create health. Everything in our society 183 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: automatically creates disease. Our process, diet, which we just talked about, 184 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: our century lifestyles, chronic stress. You know. I was with 185 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: this guy, Silvio, on top of this mountain in Sardinia, 186 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: who was two hundred sheeps and goat and his family 187 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: lived there for one hundred of years. And we had 188 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: this beautiful dinner of all his food that he grew, 189 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: and he made acknowledged sheep, cheese, everything, And so I said, 190 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: I said, Silvio, do you have any stress in your life? 191 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: And he looked at me like it was the weirdest 192 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: freaking question he'd never even loved. And he's We took 193 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: him a while. He saw it and he pondered, and 194 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: then he said, yeah, you know, sometimes at night a 195 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: goat gets loose and I have to go get it. 196 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they got So we live in such 197 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: a chronically stressed life. We're sleep deprived. We were exposed 198 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: to unnatural light at the wrong times of day. We 199 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: are exposed to an overload of environmental toxins. We have 200 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: a horde of drugs were being given that are destroying 201 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: our microbiome, antibiotics and all the things in our foods 202 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: apply that are damaging our gods. So we have literally 203 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: a disease producing culture. And we have a society that's 204 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: focused on individualism and success and achievement. And you know, 205 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: in Sardinian agree on where I was, people weren't like 206 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: on this big goal to achieve you know something. They 207 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: were just living. They were just enjoying life. They were 208 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: celebrating together, they were savoring the sweet things in life. 209 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 1: They were just enjoying being as enough. And you know, 210 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: I think so much of our culture is about doing 211 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: and making and creating, which is not bad. I do it, 212 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: but I think I'm gonna cost if we are unbalanced 213 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: in how we do it. Where are the starting points 214 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: for people in creating longevity in their life, Because I find, 215 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: like what you just said, you're so right, And sometimes 216 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: what I find is that the world is overwhelming in 217 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: the way that it's set up, but even trying to 218 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: change your habits can be as overwhelming as well. Where 219 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: people go, I don't know where to start, Like I 220 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: don't know where to start with my diet. I don't 221 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: know where to start with my stress lifestyle. I don't know, 222 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: you know, So where do you encourage people to start 223 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: figuring out what the root cause of their challenges are 224 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: and where they go from there? Well, you know, everybody 225 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: is different, but I would say, you know, it sounds 226 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: maybe obvious, but the fundamental things that keep us healthy 227 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: and keep us living long are really quite simple. And 228 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's a study many years ago by James Freeze, 229 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: who we published in the newly Journal of Medicine, where 230 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: he looked at what he called the compression of morbidity, 231 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: the idea that we could have our health span equal 232 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: our lifespan. Most of us spend the last twenty percent 233 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: of our lives sick. Right, So you might live to eighty, 234 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: but the percent of your life maybe twenty years or 235 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: a little bit less, you're going to be unwell. That's 236 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: not fun. And he found if you just kept your 237 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: ideal body weight, if you exercise and you didn't smoke, 238 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: you live a long, healthy life and you would die quickly, 239 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: painlessly and cheaply. But if you didn't, you would die long, expensive, 240 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: painful deaths at early. Right. So I think where do 241 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: people start. I think they start with the very foundational 242 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: basics of self care, which is food and exercise and 243 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: stress reduction tools like you have in calm where you 244 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: teach people seven minute meditations. You don't have to go 245 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: to a monaster. You're like you did for years. Now 246 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: you can learn how to increase your sleep quality. These 247 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: are really foundational, basic things that everybody needs to know 248 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: how to do. And there's a little differences for everybody. 249 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: But the food stuff is really pretty straightforward. Eat real food. 250 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: If it's basically grown in a plant, eat it. If 251 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: it's made in a plant, stay away from it. I 252 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: don't have another I used to do a lot of 253 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: work with churches and faith based healing and wellness, not 254 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: faith healing, but faith based cultures and wellness. And although 255 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to faith healing either, and I used 256 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: to say, it's really simple to know what to eat. 257 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: Leave the food that man made, Eat the food that 258 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: God made. It's something a five year old can understand. Dude, 259 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: God make an avocado, Yes, did he made a twinky? No? 260 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: It's not that hard. So stick with things that are 261 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: as close to what their original form was. He foods 262 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: that are rich in plants. Plant I call it plant 263 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: rich diet, which is all the phytochemicals, and plants are medicines. 264 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: Make sure you have adequate approaching as you get older, 265 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: because that is important for building muscle, and muscle is 266 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: the currency of aging. And we get frail and decrepit 267 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: as we get older because we lose muscle. Learn some 268 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: simple practices of exercise that work for you, whether it's 269 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: taking a walk. Resistance training is pretty important as you 270 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: get older, which is either bands or body weight or 271 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: weights or something. There's all kinds of techniques out there. 272 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: But Bill and I was lazy out this. I didn't 273 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: start till I was sixty, but I really transformed my 274 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: body even starting at sixty years old compared to why 275 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: I was at forty. I'll show you a picture later 276 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: before and after, but it's pretty impressive. And I think 277 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: the other part is, you know, optimizing your sleep, and 278 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: all all of the practices of how to do that 279 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: are in the book. And then there's you know, extra 280 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: layers of things you can do, which is the right supplements, 281 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: and then there's all these emerging longevity therapies that are 282 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: out there that are called hormesis which means the things 283 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: that are stressful to your body, but they won't kill you. 284 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: So exercises a stress if you're lifting weights or tearing muscles, 285 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: you're building muscle. Everybody's familiar with that, and you get stronger. Basically, 286 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. And there's phytohomesis, 287 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: which are these plant compounds that are plants defenses that 288 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,479 Speaker 1: we consume, but that help our bodies activate healing responses. 289 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: So like all the colorful vegetables fyseten and strawberries, there's 290 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: things in pomegranate, you're lithana, the catechins and green tea, 291 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: and the list goes on, and there's listen list of 292 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: them in the book and how to aize that, and 293 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: then there's really simple ways to optimize your timing of 294 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: eating to activate repair systems. So one of the key 295 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: strategies around food is to use it to activate these 296 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: ancient longevity switches. So we weren't meant to eat all 297 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: the time. We have hundreds of genes that help us 298 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: adapt to starvation, but very few that help us adapt 299 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: to abundance or excess, which we have now. So when 300 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: you have periods of fasting, which has been done throughout 301 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: the centuries for various religious or spiritual reasons and various practices. 302 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: But it could be just an overnight fast for twelve 303 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: hours or for twelve hours or fourteen hours or sixteen 304 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: hours that gives your body a chance to clean up. 305 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: Imagine like being in your kitchen and cooking every night 306 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: and never washing the dishes and never cleaning up and 307 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: never analyzed it like you wouldn't do that. Your body 308 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: needs that repair system to be activated, and it only 309 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: be activated when you're not eating for a period of time. 310 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: So that is a very powerful way to activate these 311 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: ancient switches that shut off inflammation, that increase antioxidant systems, 312 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: that booster stem cell production, that cause autophagy, the cellular 313 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: cleanup where you have little pac Man cells going around 314 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: and cleaning up old damage cells and tissues and proteins. 315 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: It's a very important strategy for improving your overall quantity 316 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: of life and health and metabolism. So there's a lot 317 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: of hacks that you can use from a food perspective 318 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: that I encourage, But there's also other treatments that are 319 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: out there, like that are not just fastining for hormesis, 320 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: but hot therapies and cold therapies. So you might have 321 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: heard about like saunas or cold plunges and it's kind 322 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: of all the rage now, but the science around this 323 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: is really remarkable. Like in Finland, if you just take 324 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: a sauna a few times a week, your risk of 325 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: death goes down by twenty four percent. If you do 326 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: it four or five times a week, it goes down 327 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: over forty percent. And that was compared to a control 328 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: group in Finland which took a sauna once a week. 329 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Because everybody has a sauna in Finland. It basically I 330 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: think there's enough saunas in Finland for the entire population 331 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: to be once and then that increases your dat immune system. 332 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: It activates something called heat chocked proteins that kill the 333 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: clean up all the damage proteins and help refold them 334 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: and make them work better. And one of the hallmarks 335 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: of aging these ten things to go wrong as we 336 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: age is damage proteins, so there's all these benefits. Cold 337 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: plunges also activate your monochondria and brown fat and help 338 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: stimulate all these longevity pathways. So we can take a 339 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: cold shower in the morning like I did a hot 340 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: bath at night. If you have a sauna grade or 341 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: a cold plunge grade. And there's even you know, other 342 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: therapies like hypoxiatherapies or hyperbaric oxygen or you know, even 343 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: ozone which is being used now for all kinds of things. 344 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: So we have a lot of very cool stuff on 345 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: the margins, but the foundations are so key. Yeah, these 346 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: blue zones where like I'm at a couple that collectively 347 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: was two hundred and ten years old, you know, I mean, 348 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't have you know, they didn't have 349 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 1: saunas and hyperbaric oxygen and ozone and supplements, and they 350 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: didn't have any of that. They they had these foundational things. 351 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying is, even given the 352 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: basic things that we do know, we can easily get 353 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: to one hundred and when these people moved to the West, 354 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: they I at the same rate as everybody else, so 355 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: it's not some special genetic thing. And then these other 356 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: advances and things I talked about in the book can 357 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: probably get us to one hundred and twenty, and then 358 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: what's coming down the pike might get us two one 359 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty or even longer. So imagine a world 360 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: where we can take advantage of the wisdom. I mean, 361 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: in this culture, elders. There's such a thing as elders. 362 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: There's old people, the elder lee, which is Pejorda, but elders, 363 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: I mean, how valuable are they to society? The wisdom keepers? 364 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: You know, we lost all that and and imagine, like, 365 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: now I'm going to be sixty three next week. You 366 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: look incredible. Yeah, they're amazing, You're the best. Four facelifts 367 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: is good now? Actually, I think it's it's it's remarkable 368 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm finally figuring life out, you know, 369 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: I finally figuring out how to be happy and have 370 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: good relationships and live my life in a balanced way 371 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: and take care of myself. And I've just kind of 372 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: figured so much out. Not everything, obviously, but I feel 373 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: like now I'm just beginning. And now most people at 374 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: sixty three are winding down. I remember as a kid, 375 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: sixty three was like an old person, like dude, you know, 376 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: But I'm going helly skiing this year. I'm you know, 377 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm learning how to surf better than in December, 378 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: riding horses on the beach in Mexico. Next week, I'm 379 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: doing all these things that I, you know, are just 380 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: very physical, active things that you wouldn't think a sixty 381 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: three year old could do. Yeah, but the body is 382 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: capable of that. With your journey, though, when you said 383 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: you started at sixty, like doing strength or resilience based training, 384 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: et cetera, was help something that came very late in 385 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: your life or was it like not at all? No, 386 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: you might not know this tree, but I was a 387 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: yoga teacher before I was a doctor. I did not 388 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: know that. So yeah, I studied Buddhism in college, and 389 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: I medicine was an afterthought. So I was living with 390 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: a PhD student nutrition at Cornell, and I studied nutrition. 391 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: I learned about nutrition against the dase. I was as 392 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: you're tearing for many years, and I basically was very 393 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: focused on health and well being. I ran five miles 394 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: a day yoga all the time, but I didn't I 395 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: didn't do weights. I didn't do resistance training. So I 396 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: was like, I'm doing yoga, run I by. It gets fine, 397 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: I play Dannis whatever, but I thought I didn't like it. 398 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: Jim's your smelly And every time I like do push 399 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: ups with my chest would hurt. I'm like, this is dumb. 400 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: But then I know, I couldn't do ten push ups 401 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: when I was fifty, and now I can drop and 402 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: do like seventy five eighty push ups without stopping. Wow, Okay, 403 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: that's impressive. Yeah, it's just the body has the ability 404 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: at any age to kind of recover. And I you know, 405 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: my dad was eighty nine. He couldn't get up out 406 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: of a chair because he just kind of had gotten 407 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: a little frail. So I got him a trainer at 408 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: eighty nine for the first time, and he was able 409 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: to get so much fitter and stronger and more functional. 410 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: So it's never too late to start. Yeah, I feel 411 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: like the biggest challenge that I'm noticing in all of 412 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: this is that I was saying to someone recently that 413 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: if I asked everyone, how many of you want to 414 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: eat healthier? Everyone would raise their hands. If I ask 415 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: people the question how many of you want to work 416 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: out more? Most people would raise their hands. We don't 417 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: have a challenge in desire. We have a challenge in 418 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: habits where we don't know how to move away from 419 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: this compelling feeling. We have to go with what feels 420 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: good in the moment, right like when you look at 421 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: food It's like choosing a bowl of vegetables or a 422 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: bowl of fries. You're going to choose the fries out 423 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: of habit. And I find that sometimes we can put 424 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: our willpower together and we can kind of push through 425 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: and have that, but then as soon as we get access, 426 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 1: we cave again. So how have you thought about as 427 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: you're helping guide people in this journey, like, how have 428 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: you found even for yourself, you went from yoga to 429 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: then being able to do a push ups today, what 430 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: were the key tenets in helping you change your habits? 431 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: Because I find that we're in a habits crisis right now. 432 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: More than anything, I've been always pretty self discipline. I 433 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: think that the thing that I've really learned, though, Jay, 434 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: is that it's it's your community that matters. That's your 435 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: social not your social network online, but your actual social 436 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: network in person that drives so much of your behavior. 437 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: And I for decades studied the sort of molecular biology 438 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: and physiology and biochemistry and genetics, and I was sort 439 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: of in deep into like the inner workings of the 440 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: human body. And you know, Einstein said, I'm not interested 441 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: in the thoughts and the spectrum of this or that element. 442 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm interested in the thoughts of God. The rest are details. 443 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: So I feel like I was so interested to know 444 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: the mind of God by understanding the natural laws of biology, 445 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: which is what functional medicine is, what's described and young forever. 446 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: But I had kind of missed something, which is how 447 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: do we get people to change behavior? Because I can 448 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: change biology, I can take someone with diabetes and heart 449 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: failure and all these problems and I can reverse it. 450 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: And I went to Haiti after the earthquake in twenty ten, 451 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: and I met Paul Farmer, who basically took care of 452 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: people who were the most underserved people in the world. 453 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Haiti is the poorest civilization, the worst Western hemisphere. Half 454 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: of the population lism less than a dollar a day, 455 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: and these people were basically infected by the public health 456 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: community and the TB and AIDS. And he said, look, 457 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: I can cure these diseases with drugs. These are easy. 458 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: But people don't have the ability to take the drugs, 459 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: and they don't have to walk clean water, and they 460 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: don't have a watch. They'm gonna take it. And so 461 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: he realized that the powerless community. So he created this 462 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: model of accompaniment. We're going to accompany each other to health, 463 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: and so he used community health workers essentially. And then 464 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: I realize that, wow, you know, we call all these 465 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: chronic illnesses of aging. We call them non communicable diseases. 466 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: They're not infectious, but there are contagious. We know that 467 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: if you're overweight your family is overweight, it's not as 468 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: strong a predictor of obesity as if your friends are overweight. 469 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: If your friends are overweight, you're one hundred and seventy 470 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: one percent more likely to be overweight than if your 471 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: family is overweight. Wow, I didn't know that, which is crazy. 472 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: This is Chris Stoker's work from Harvard, and so it's 473 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: our social fabric that determines our behavior. These social threads 474 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: that connect us are more important than our genetic sets. 475 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: So if you're all your friends are, you know, drinking 476 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: beer and having fries and burgers and watching football, which 477 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: it may not be a bad thing, but you might 478 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: like that, you might not be as healthy as if 479 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: all your friends are drinking green juices and going to 480 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: yoga every day. Right, So it's a very different framework. 481 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: So I realized that the power of community is so important. 482 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: So we did a program at this church Saddleback Church 483 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: in California, where we used the small groups that they 484 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: already had built, and we put a healthy curriculum, letting 485 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 1: curriculum through those groups, and we thought a few one 486 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: hundred people, which show up. Fifteen thousand people signed up 487 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: the first week and they accompanied other health and they 488 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: lost a quarter million pounds in the first year. And 489 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: through this process, I really learned that it was the 490 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: power of each other to help each other get healthier, 491 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: to lift each other up, to inspire each other, to 492 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: hold each other accountable. It's like aa or it's like 493 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: weight watchers. These things work because they have a community 494 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: connected component. And that was one of the things I 495 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: learned from the Blue Zones Jay that was so important. 496 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: There was a little nursing homes. You know, their whole 497 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: society was built around relationships and community and connection and 498 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: celebration together. So people weren't isolated and lonely and disconnected 499 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: like they are in the society, but they were deeply connected. 500 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: The song out right, It's like the song is one 501 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: of the three pillars of enlightenment, which is community that 502 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: helps you build and work towards the right action and 503 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: the right life and the right kind of loving and 504 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: the right behavior, all these things. So I think we 505 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: really underestimate the power of that. So what I would 506 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: say to people is find us someone, a friend, a buddy, 507 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: a group. You know, my friend Rick Warren, a pastor 508 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: of Saddleback Church, said everybody needs a buddy. Yeah, And 509 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: it sounds so simple when you say it like that, 510 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: Like you know, it can feel like such a complex 511 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: question sometimes and then when you put it like that, 512 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, yeah, that makes so much sense, and 513 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: I start thinking about the people I spend time with. 514 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: Then I think people struggle with points of transition in 515 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: communities in their life. So it's like they built a community, 516 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: they built a group of friends. Now they want new 517 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: visions with their life. They have new habits they want 518 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: to adopt, and it's like letting go of an old 519 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: set of habits which are linked to a group of 520 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: people is the most difficult part. Right, If you're used 521 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: to going and watching football with a group of people 522 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: who you will drink together and eat unhealthily together. To you, 523 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: you're not just giving up the food, you're almost giving 524 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: up company. That's sort of if you're an alcoholic and 525 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: you're hanging out with other alcoholics. You got to find 526 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: new friends, you know, Yeah, and that's the hard part, 527 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: and that's the hard part. And I think that's what 528 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: I found, having made many transitions in my life of 529 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: groups of friends and habits. I found that the first 530 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: thing was don't try leave your friends or break relationships, 531 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: but try and build new ones first. And so a 532 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: lot of people spend time going, Okay, well, I've got 533 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: to somehow talk to this person about how we're not 534 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: going to spend time together. And it's almost the other 535 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 1: way around. Find the new community first, find the new 536 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: songer first, and the more you start associating with that 537 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: group of people, it becomes natural for these things to 538 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: have less energy and less time for. And the second 539 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: thing was that I found that the people who wanted 540 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: to be in my life continue to be in my life. Right, 541 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: that's right. They'll come along, Yeah, they'll come and they'll 542 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: aspire them. My god, Jay's doing so good, he looks 543 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: so good, he's he's feeling good. I want to know 544 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: what he's doing, what's he's smoking exactly exactly. And the 545 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: people that want to be in your life will come 546 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: along with you. And I think that we sometimes just 547 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: get so tired in in those groups that we just 548 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: can't break out of them. But I love that answer. 549 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: I want to talk about some of the in the book, 550 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: you talk about the ten hallmarks of Yes, and I 551 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: want to dive into this because I think we're just 552 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: again and I come at this as a patient of 553 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: the book, like as as you know, when I'm reading 554 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: the book, I don't count myself as someone who knows. 555 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: I count myself as someone who is considers myself quite 556 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: uneducated when it comes to physical biological health. And when 557 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm reading this, I'm going I don't even think most 558 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: of us know that. We're just not even aware. So 559 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: I want to pick up you didn't get a handbook 560 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: when you were born? This is yeah. I mean, most 561 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: people can run their iPhone like nobody's business, but they 562 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: don't know how to run their body at all. And 563 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: so I want to pick a few that I already 564 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: stood out to me. And we've talked about a couple 565 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: of these, but hallmark one is disrupted hormone and nutrient signaling. 566 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: And I wanted to talk about the link between inflammation 567 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: and aging because I find that that's something that people 568 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: are learning about slowly or at least if you're not 569 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: learning about it, you're experiencing inflamation for sure. Yeah. Yeah, 570 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: a lot of the diseases of aging are inflammation diseases, right, 571 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: heart disease, cancer, diabetes, dementia. I think, you know, before 572 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: we kind of dive into those, I just want to 573 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: sort of set the stage, which is, you know, what's 574 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: really exciting for the first time, and I talked about 575 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: the mind of God For the first time, we're understanding 576 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: these fundamental laws of biology, Like we understand the laws 577 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: of physics, and from a very few natural laws of physics, 578 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: we can see and create an enormous amount of phenomena. Right, 579 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: Think about the things that we can create with physics. 580 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: That's rocketship, going to the moon, you know, a bridge 581 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: and build a building and talk on the podcast. It's 582 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: all physics, right, And that's a amazing to me. And 583 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: it's just from a few natural laws. What are those 584 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: natural laws of biology? They haven't really been described. So 585 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: scientists for the first time are understanding these fundamental laws. 586 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: They describe all the disease phenomena we see. The diseases 587 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: are weighed down stream and menaces focused on whackam all treatment, 588 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, you just find the cure for heart disease 589 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: and diabetes and cancer and dementia. What if they're all 590 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: the same. What if it's all the same disease with 591 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: just different manifestations like leaves on a tree where the 592 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: trunk and the roots are the same. So that's what 593 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: we're finding. And the hallmarks of aging are these things 594 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: that go wrong as we get older that cause all 595 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: these diseases. And if we just cured heart disease and 596 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: cancer from the face of the earth, like, how many 597 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: years will we live longer? And these are the number 598 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: one and two killers three to five years, which is 599 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of shocking, right, if we've dealt with these hallmarks, 600 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: these causes, we might get another thirty or forty years. 601 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: And what's important to understand is that sciences are looking 602 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: at how do we treat these and that's help full. 603 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: But from my perspective, and I think what's unique about 604 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: my book Young Forever is that I go to a 605 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: deeper level what is the cause of the hallmarks? Because 606 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: if the call marks are the cause of disease, what 607 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: causes the hallmarks? Yeah, it's really quite simple. It's either 608 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: too much of something that our body doesn't like or 609 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: not enough of something in our body needs to thrive. 610 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: What are the impediments to health and the ingredients for health, 611 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: and it's a short list. Impediments for health are bad food, 612 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: too much stress, physical or psychological, environmental toxins, microbes can 613 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: be gut microbiome being messed up, or infections and also 614 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: allergens things that cause inflammation. So those are the fundamental things. 615 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: And what does our body need to thrive. We need 616 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: the right food, the nutrients, right bounce of hormones, light, 617 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: air and water connection meaning purpose, rest, restoration, sleep, exercise, movement. 618 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: All these things are the ingredients for health. It's a 619 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: very short list. So that's the framework of functional medicine. 620 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: You either dying of too much or dying too little, 621 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: right and so understand the information coming in from food 622 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: and what to do with it. So when we eat 623 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: protein and sugar and fat, our bodies know how to 624 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: handle this. We have all these pathways that digest to 625 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: metabolize these things. When these sensing pathways are overloaded with 626 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: too much of the wrong stuff, if you have you 627 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: know we need glue, coast and sugar or fine. But 628 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: if you are eating like a pound a day of 629 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: sugar and flour almost which is what most Americans do today. 630 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: That's like an avalanche of sugar and flour. That's a toxic, 631 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: poisonous pharmacologic dose. So that overloads, for example, the insulin 632 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: signaling pathway, one of these four longevity switches that are 633 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: part of our nutrient sensing system. That overloads it and 634 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: causes you to have a cascade of downstream effects from 635 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: inflammation to increasing belly fat, to oxidative stress, to mitochondral injury, 636 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: to all these things that lend to a rapid aging process. 637 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: So that's the biggest one, and that's kind of sugar 638 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: and start. So if you want to do one thing 639 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: to extend your life, cut out or cut down dramatically 640 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: on the amount of sugar and starts you're eating every day, 641 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: and have more fat, and have more vegetables and have 642 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: more in good quality proteins. Those will all help you thrive. 643 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: The other is the pathway around the nutrient sensing It's 644 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: something called m tour and this is something people have 645 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: heard about, maybe maybe not, but essentially it's kind of 646 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: cool because there's this pathway that is so important in 647 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: activating the cellular clean up mechanism called autophagy. And now 648 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: we've heard about this, which is why we talk about 649 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: intimate and fasting, or time restricted eating, or keytogenic diets 650 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: or all these things that people are kind of tossing around. 651 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: The reason those are important is they give your body 652 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: a chance to do clean up at night, right, and 653 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: we need to clean up like the kitchen instead of 654 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: leaving it the dishes in there for a week or 655 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: a month. So that process is so important. So we 656 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: need times of not eating to activate this autophagy process, 657 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: and that happens by the inhibition of M tour. Now 658 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: M tour when it's overstimulated by too much protein all 659 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: the time or too much sugar all the time, we'll 660 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: just keep making stuff in the body. And it's like, 661 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, if you just keep making food in your kitchen, 662 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna overflow and it's gonna be a mess. And 663 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: that's what happens inside your body. So what they found 664 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: was it was this compound that they that they discovered 665 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: in Rapa Nui, which is Easter Island. Now, who knows 666 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: the aliens came down and put those things there, I 667 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: don't know. It's those statues that are on this island 668 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: off the coast of the Chile, right, and they scraped 669 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: off some stuff off the back of the statue and 670 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: they took it back to the lab and they oh, 671 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: maybe this is an antifungal, and now it doesn't work 672 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: so well, maybe it has some immune properties and it's 673 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: used in transplant medicine. But then it discovered it inhibits 674 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: m tour. In fact, the name m tour stands for 675 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: mammalian target of Rappa mic and Rappa myycin is named 676 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: after Rapa Nui or Easter Island, So the drug that 677 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: they've developed is named after this, and this inhibits emptor. 678 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: It is now being studied for longevity, and so we 679 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: need periods of time to inhibit emptor fasting and aud 680 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: even anything. And we need time to stimulate em tour 681 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: to build muscle so we don't get frail and decrepit 682 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: as we age. And then there's other pathways like SIR 683 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: two ends and MPK that are part of our nutrients 684 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: sensing system that detects scarcity and will activate DNA repair. 685 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: And people have heard about an example risk fair trawl 686 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: and longevity, and this work of doctor David Sinclair and this, 687 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, they worked, but they gave them, you know, 688 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: from red wine, the equivalent of fifteen hundred bottles of 689 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: red wine. So they don't want to practice this at home, 690 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: but but it was amazing what they saw. These animals 691 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: live longer and they got healthier even eating a bad diet. 692 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: If you activate these longevity switches, it's so powerful. And 693 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: the beautiful thing is that a lot of the plant 694 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: foods that we can eat, the phytochemicals that are rich 695 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: in this plant foods all activate these ancient longevity pathways 696 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: like green tea or pomegranitor, or there's fairy tral from 697 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: red grapes, and the list goes on. And so we 698 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: have these ancient systems that we can play with. And 699 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: so the book is really about how do we turn 700 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: on the longevity switches, How do we activate those in 701 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: the right way, How do we eat in a way 702 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: to optimize each of those in the right time, It 703 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: the right way. When I hear that in my head, 704 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: I've I've become more close and clear about this because 705 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: of my wife. So it comes back to me where 706 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: it comes back to your point of view. Want the 707 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: burgers And She's like, yeah, any day of the week. Yeah, 708 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's so I've been through this journey with her. 709 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: We've been married for six years and together for ten, 710 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: but for the six years that we've been married, she's 711 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: been on this journey with me of helping me transform 712 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: my diet and my habits. And I've felt all the 713 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: benefits you're speaking about having gone on that journey, and 714 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: I've also felt some of the shocks that my body's 715 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: had in missing out on some of those things that 716 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: it's used to. Like, my body loved bread like it 717 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: still loves bread, like. It feels great when I eat bread. 718 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: And I'm talking I'm not talking my gluten free bread. 719 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking my bread that has gluten in it. And 720 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 1: but I know that gluten's yeah, can be massively inflammatory, 721 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: especially for me as well from the test that I've done. 722 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: But I find it really interesting that sometimes I can 723 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: feel great eating things that are bad for me, but 724 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: there's something happening inside that I'm not aware. Yeah, I mean, 725 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: sugar is a drug. Bread's a drug. I mean, in fact, 726 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: you might not know this, but one of the things 727 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: that happens when you eat bread in you're consuming gluten 728 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: is that the gluten gets partially broken down into these 729 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: things called ludomorphins, which actually are like morphine, and they 730 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: bind the receptors in your brain that make you feel good. So, yeah, 731 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: heroin makes you feel great, that doesn't mean it's good 732 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: for you, right, And so it's very addictive. And it also, 733 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, gives you a jolt of sugar and adrenaline. 734 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: So when you eat sugar, you get a jolt of adrenaline. Literally, 735 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: your your cortisol goes up, your adrenaline goes up, so 736 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: it's like it's like being jacked up on steroids and adrenaline, 737 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: which feels good for the moment, and then you crash. Yeah, exactly. 738 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: Number four I wanted to talk about you talk about 739 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: damage proteins, Yeah, and dysfunctional molecules. I think that was 740 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: I think damage proteins is something we're not very well 741 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: educated on. No, I think you know what happens is 742 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: you know your your body has It's just it's just 743 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: a miracle to me Ja that the body has this 744 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: systems to handle things that go wrong and to repair 745 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 1: things and clean up things. So we are constantly making proteins. 746 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: People don't really realize this, But what did your DNA 747 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: do right, your DNA, All it does is code for proteins. 748 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: Proteins do all sorts of things, from build tissues your 749 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: bustles and joints, to building your immune cells, to being 750 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: communication systems. And small proteins like peptides, are messengers with 751 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: eighty thousand that tell your body what to do and 752 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: regulate all kinds of things from brain chemistry to hormones 753 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: of sexual function, to metabolism to mitochondrial function. I mean, 754 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: the list goes on. So proteins are so important, but 755 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: as we age, those proteins can get damaged or they 756 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: are injured, and they're misfolded and they're broken, and so 757 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: the body has to one address this and too hopefully 758 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: prevent you from making these. So one of the things 759 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: that happens, for example, it's really dangerous, is when you 760 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: eat sugar, it kind of binds with proteins in your 761 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: body and it damages them and causes glycation, which is 762 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: basically just the phenomena that that happens when you get 763 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: a crispy chicken skin or crust on our bread or 764 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: crambrulet and you get that like little crack. That's so good, right, 765 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: We all have that stuff, but that that that reaction 766 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: happens in your body and that and that creates what 767 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: we call ages, advanced likeation end product which ages us 768 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: and that binds two rages receptors for advanced likeation end products. 769 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: So that rage literally aging and raging is what happens. 770 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: So when you when you eat a lot of sugar 771 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: and start, you're causing these damage proteins. So the measurement, 772 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: for example, of your diabetes control we call hemoglomin a 773 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: one C. That's a measure of damage proteins. That's sugar 774 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: binding to hemoglobin and damaging it. And we can see 775 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: that on a blood test. But this is happening throughout 776 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: your body. And what's amazing is things like we talked 777 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: about hormesis and these stresses like saunas. Saunas create heat 778 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: shocked proteins which are actually repairing proteins or cleaning up proteins. 779 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: When you have autophogy, which is we talked about, which 780 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: is a self clean mechanism, you actually clean up these 781 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: old proteins and you recycle them. So the body has 782 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: a recycling system basically like takes up all these old 783 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: damaged things glombs onto him like a pac man, digests them, 784 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: breaks them down its component parts and says, okay, I 785 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: got new parts. Let's make new proteins, and you start over. 786 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. Actually, yeah, it's unbelievable. I've never I've 787 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: never heard anyone say that before about how the body 788 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: is a recycling mechanism. It does. It's amazing. I mean, like, 789 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: that's what's so exciting to me is you know when 790 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: I went to school, I in medical school. In their 791 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: second year, we get a book called The Pathologic Basis 792 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: of Disease, which is really great. It's like the foundational textbook. 793 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: But I didn't get the Scientific Basis of Wellness textbook. 794 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: I didn't learn anything about that. Like, so, how do 795 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: you create health? You say to your doctor, I want 796 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: you to treat decisions, Okay take this drug. If you 797 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: say doctor, I want you to make me optimally healthy, 798 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: and like, okay, well, eat better, exercise, take vitamins. I 799 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: don't know, but like they don't have an answer, right, 800 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: But it's scientific wellness. What is scientific wellness? Why? What 801 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: is the science of creating health? That's what functional medicine is, 802 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: and that's really what I've given people as an owner's 803 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: manual for their body, how to detect what's wrong, what 804 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: tests to do, how to find out what's how to 805 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: balance and how to correct it, and how to optimize 806 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: each of the systems in your body so you can 807 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: create health. And what's really exciting is now we have 808 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: a metric called a biological age clock that we can measure. 809 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: So before we'd kind of say, oh, is this working 810 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: or not? Maybe your blood works better, maybe your weight 811 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: weights a better blood pressure is better, and that's are 812 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: all in sort of indirect markers. But there is something 813 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: that we now have discovered which is a biological clock, 814 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: and it's measured by looking at little marks on your 815 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: DNA that are called your epigenome. Now we all know 816 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: what your genome is, which is your genes, and you 817 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: got about twenty thousand genes. That's your DNA. That's not 818 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: really changeable except through gene editating or whatever. But your 819 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: epigenome and the genes are like the keyboard at a 820 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: piano eighty eight keys. You can't change that, but you 821 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: can play jazz, reacttime, Mozart, classical, whatever you want, blues. 822 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: It's amazing right on the same keyboard. The same thing 823 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: with the epigenome. The epigenome is the piano player, and 824 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: that controls which genes are turned on or offer expressed. 825 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: And your biological age is a sum total of every influence, 826 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: every food you've eaten, every type of exercise you've done, 827 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: every thought you have, every relationship have been in, all 828 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: the talks you've been exposed to, washing over your DNA, 829 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: creating these marks to determine your biological age. So I've 830 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: done my biological agent. I'm sixty three, but biologically i'm 831 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: forty three. That's unbelievable. Yeah, well it's really cool. I'm 832 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: going for twenty five. I'm trying to get younger than 833 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: you ja exactly. And I think, you know, we have 834 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: so many technologies that allowing us to now do this 835 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: that are even beyond the diet, exercise, and lifestyle stuff. 836 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: So we now can measure the effective interventions on these 837 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: things and check how we're doing through these epigenetic clocks. 838 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: And our biological age doesn't have to match with and 839 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: track with our chronological age. And now I was born 840 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty nine, I can't change that. I can't 841 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: be chronologically younger, but I can't be biologically younger even 842 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: as I get chronologically older. And what's amazing is it 843 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: doesn't take that much like I've seen studies. We're using 844 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: a dietary intervention, which is an anti inflammatory whole foods diet, 845 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, some phytochemical support, and a little bit of 846 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: exercise and lifestyle support. Within eight weeks, they were able 847 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: to reverse biological age and this cohort of patience by 848 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: three years. And what if they did it for a 849 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 1: year you know, you know, so we have the ability 850 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: to do this to measure it now. It's very exciting science. Yeah, 851 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: and let's let's talk about some of the things that 852 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: people are feeling today, because I think that's how we 853 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: get in touch with our health, or we start. I 854 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: think people who read this book are going to get 855 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,720 Speaker 1: that manual that you're talking about. I want to guide 856 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: people to this book through things that we feel. So 857 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: what's really interesting to me is how commonly people are 858 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 1: experiencing brain fog today. Yeah, and I think as we 859 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: experience brain fog, I don't think we often know what 860 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 1: to do about it. We often also start going internal. 861 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: This is also the same thing as connecting what you 862 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 1: talk about in the book to our mental health. I 863 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of the time when we're experiencing mental 864 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: health challenges, we're trying to solve it through the mind, 865 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: correct and I think that that's not working right. It's 866 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: it's actually very difficult. And I recently had and I know, 867 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: you know Mona Sharmawell who I work with NA works 868 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: with me on my diet, on my plan and everything, 869 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, she's a functional medicin nutritionist. Yes, and 870 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: so we I did a vitamin detest and my vitamin 871 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: D was ten yeah, yeah, right, yeah, that's like very 872 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: and I'm still functioning doing everything I do on vitamin D. 873 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: And she was just like most people who have that 874 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: level that like have forms of depression, depression muscle eggs 875 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: and I'm yeah, and I'm and I'm not having you know, 876 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: the depressive aspect of that and so, which which was 877 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: great for me. But my point being that there is 878 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: this big connection between physical and mental health or like 879 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: physical diet, sleep, energy levels and then impact. So talk 880 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: to us a bit about that. So huge, Jay, you know, 881 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's so much to work on 882 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: on your biology. But I wrote a book probably a 883 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago now called The Ultramond Solution about how 884 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: to fix your brain by fixing your body first. So 885 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 1: you can meditate all you want, but if you're mercury poisoned, 886 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: or your thow is not working, or your vitamin B 887 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,439 Speaker 1: twelve or vitamin D deficient, or your microbiomb's a mess, 888 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be hard to achieve the goals you 889 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: want to achieve. So set yourself up for dealing with 890 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: your soul's evolution, with your spiritual growth, with healing your 891 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: emotional life and trauma, by setting your body up to 892 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: function better to help you, to help you right. And 893 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: so you know it's you know, this book isn't about 894 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: getting to one hundred and twenty. It's about how to 895 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: activate these health switches, longevity switches to make you feel 896 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: good now, because most people have what I call FLC syndrome, 897 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: which is when you feel like crap right, And so 898 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: people walk around with all sorts of symptoms and not 899 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: realizing how good they can feel and how quickly they 900 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: can feel good. And so by doing some of these practices, 901 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 1: simply changing your diet and lifestyle changes people can experiment. 902 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: Even ten days of it can have a profound effect. 903 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 1: Now I do workshops around the world where I take 904 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 1: people through a ten day or even a five or 905 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: six day program and universally, within a week people have 906 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: a seventy percent reduction and all symptoms from all diseases 907 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: by simply cleaning up their diet and how many days 908 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: five to seven days? Way do you do this? Well over, 909 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: We're doing next one in Sardinia and April. You should come. 910 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: You should come. It's a little boutique tour in April. 911 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: When someone after that, I might do one in June 912 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: in Abisa. Okay, cope, be great. Yeah, but you can 913 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: teach them too, gonna, I'm gonna come with a face. 914 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: You can read these some meditations. Yeah, yeah, I'm being serious. No, No, 915 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: for sure, Oh that'd be so five. It's great and 916 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: it's so beautiful there. So, so we have this ability 917 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: to activate these these healing mechanisms through changing your diet 918 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: and heal our mind. So there's an amazing psyche chiatrist 919 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: who is at Harvard who wrote a book called Brain Energy, 920 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: Christopher Palmer, who's just brilliant, and he basically was a 921 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: traditional Harvard psychiatrist who had a patient with schizophrenic and 922 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: I was schizophrenia is one of those conditions. It's not 923 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: like you know, people's anxiety or depressed or it's like emotional. 924 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: This is like a pretty serious mental disorder, right, and 925 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: we think it's not changeable. And he on the medications 926 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: gained a huge amount of weight, which a lot of 927 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: the psychotic medic anti psychotic medications caused weight ging. And 928 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: he a guy would just hide in his room all 929 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: day and I'll come out and only see the psychiatrist. 930 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: And he said, I want to lose weight. And the 931 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: psychiatrist knew he wouldn't go to anybody else, so he said, 932 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: why don't you try a ketogenic diet because I heard 933 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: it it really works and maybe it'll help you know, 934 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: And he did it and it schizophrenia went away. Wow. 935 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: And the psychiatrist like, what's going on in the metabolic 936 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: function of the brain that's affecting the mind? Right, The 937 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: brain in the mind are not the same thing, but 938 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: the brain function influenced the function of your mind. And 939 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: so by healing the brain, you can then start to 940 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: really deal with your stuff with your mind. It's not 941 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: going to fix your thinking overnight or your mindset and 942 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: all the things you need to work on, but it'll 943 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: allow you the ability to do it so much better, 944 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: and it might even change your thinking, It might even 945 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 1: change depressive thoughts, anxiety. You know a lot of even 946 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: panic attacks can be caused by fluctuations in blood sugar, 947 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, which I've seen patients. So I'm so excited 948 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: you ask that question because we have such a mental 949 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: health crisis in this country, and we know from dietary 950 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: studies where they've looked at traditional diets like the set 951 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: we call it the Sad diet, the standard American diet, 952 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: which makes us sad actually, and they swapped out that 953 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: for whole foods, you know, basically a Mediterranean kind of diet. 954 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: And it was a very large study. It was a 955 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: clinical trial, a randomized control trial, and it was a 956 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: better at treating depression than almost anything else. I want 957 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: to call it the Glad diet. And we've seen in 958 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: these studies like I mentioned, in prisons and other places 959 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: where people giving a whole foods diet will dramatically reduce 960 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: their violent behavior or their mood will improve. And so 961 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: these foods that we're eating are inflaming our brain, They're 962 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: inflaming our emotions, are inflaming our minds, and depression is 963 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: an inflammatory disease of the brain. Autism is an inflammatory 964 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: disease the brain. Adds an inflammatory disease the brain, Alzheimer's. 965 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: All these things are brain inflammation, and how is this 966 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: inflammation being caused primarily through our diet and lifestyle in toxins. 967 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: So it's a totally fixable problem. Yeah, I mean, listening 968 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: to you, it gives me a lot of hope in that, 969 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, anyone who's listening to us today and goes 970 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: and grabs a copy of the book Younger Forever The 971 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 1: Secrets to Living Your Longest, Healthiest Life, which I highly 972 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: rarely recommend. Will put the link to the book in 973 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 1: the notes and the caption. As we're having this discussion, 974 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm feeling a great sense of confidence. And the reason 975 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: why I have these conversations as well is because they 976 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: remind me of why I'm trying to have a clean 977 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: diet and why I'm trying to do the right thing. 978 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: And I think it's so important to strengthen that. Why 979 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: totally because it just becomes so easy to go back 980 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 1: to our you know, obvious habits so quickly. But I 981 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: think the challenge is that for so long we've been 982 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: trying to deal with our health in silos. So if 983 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: we have a mental health challenge, we try and deal 984 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 1: just with our mind. Yeah, And if we have a 985 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: physical health challenge, we try and just deal with our body. 986 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: And we don't realize that they're so interconnected. They're not separate. 987 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: There's no mind, body, body minds. It's one thing. It's 988 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 1: all one thing, and try to separate out doesn't make 989 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: any sense. And so medicine is really bifurcated psychiatry and 990 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: the rest of medicine, And it just doesn't make any 991 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 1: sense to me. And when I call myself the accidental psychiatrist, 992 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: because I basically wasn't treating people's mental disorders, but I 993 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: was treating their physical health. And I saw their brains 994 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: get better and their mind get better, and their mood 995 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: get better, and bi polar disease go always because sophrenia 996 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: get better, autism get better, add get better, depression get better. 997 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is going on here? And blew my mind? 998 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: Did you give us a few examples of those were 999 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: people that you worked with in those spaces, Because I 1000 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: think that's something we don't hear about as much like 1001 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: I think we hear a lot today about when people 1002 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: are struggling with those things, they're going to therapy. Yeah, 1003 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: but we're not doing. One patient who you know, was 1004 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 1: just severely depressed and was struggling for years and years 1005 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: and and you know, I found out she had mercury poisoning, 1006 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: and we got the mercury out of her system and 1007 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: she got better. There was a patient who in a 1008 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: patient of mine. It was someone who was part of 1009 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: the Daniel Plan, this faith basedball in this program I mentioned, 1010 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: who came up to me after the six week part 1011 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: of the program we started. In six weeks later, we 1012 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: had another rally and gathering in Doctor Hyman. I don't 1013 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: get it, like I've been in and out a psychiatric 1014 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: hospital in my whole life. I've been in every psychiatric medication. 1015 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 1: I'm about to get divorced, am about to lose my job. 1016 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm just struggling so much. And I changed my diet 1017 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: and in three days it all went away, and I 1018 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: feel so good. Now. Is that possible? I'm like, yeah, 1019 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: it's possible. It happened to you, so it's clearly possible. 1020 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 1: So people don't realize how quickly we can see these 1021 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: change and so that was really remarkable. I had a 1022 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: kid with add who was just so out of control 1023 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: and his behavior. You couldnt pay attention, he couldn't focus. 1024 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: He was kicked out of kindergarten. If you can imagine 1025 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 1: being that bad, being kicked out a kundergarten, you know. 1026 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: But he had all these other health issues. He had asthma, 1027 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 1: and he had rollaboll and he had all these headaches 1028 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: and cramps, and so I basically treated his biology. Turned 1029 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: out he had a leaky gut and food sensitivities and 1030 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: lead toxas city and he ated total junk food diets. 1031 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: We have so nutrition to fishing and omega threes and 1032 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: zinc and magnesium, be vitamins, and so we just fixed 1033 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: all that. We just cleaned up his gut. We gave 1034 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: him good food, we gave him good nutrients. Two months later, 1035 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: it came back and all of the sims were gone physically, 1036 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: and all of his mental sims were gone. And his handwriting, 1037 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 1: which we can show in the in the in the 1038 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,879 Speaker 1: show notes and on the video, that his handwriting went 1039 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: from being illegible at twelve years old to being perfect penmanship. 1040 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: And it wasn't because I gave him handwriting lessons. It 1041 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: was because his brain went from completely chaotic and disorganized 1042 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: to completely coherent and functional. Yeah, I hope everyone was 1043 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: listening to this. If you're struggling with anything based on 1044 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 1: your mental health, your brain health, I hope that you're 1045 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: also going to take some time out to research on 1046 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: your diet to of course read this book, because I 1047 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: just want people to make that connection quicker. And I 1048 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: spend years doing the opposite, Mark Lake, And that's why 1049 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated about all the work you do, because 1050 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: I spent years and I got to a place where 1051 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: I had mastered my mind, but my body was just 1052 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: not catching up right, And so I could take care 1053 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: of my thoughts and my emotions and my feelings, but 1054 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: my body couldn't match that pace. And so I've kind 1055 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: of come the other way. It's great And hey, yeah, yeah, exactly. 1056 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: You talk to us about and again we're only doing 1057 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: a very high level of the book because I want 1058 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: people to get a sense of some of the depth 1059 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: of what you talk about in this book. Could you 1060 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: explain to us again at that top level, what the 1061 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: seven core biological systems are? Yeah, so this is a 1062 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: really important Jay. So like I said, you know, one 1063 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,959 Speaker 1: of the laws of biology, what's the mind of God? 1064 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 1: And right now we're going to going to revolution in 1065 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: medicine that's as big as anything has ever happened in history. 1066 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: You know, from the discovery of the germ. It's remarkable 1067 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: how we're now understanding the body as an ecosystem. This 1068 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: is called systems biology or functional medicine is the clinical 1069 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: model that applies us. And so the hallmarks of aging 1070 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: are what these emerging scientists and Lungevi you're talking about 1071 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: that go wrong with aging, But what is causing them 1072 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: is what functional medicine is really good at figuring out. 1073 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: And what happens is that these seven core systems in 1074 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: the body that go wrong, they get out of balance, 1075 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: just like in Arubata they have the docious you know, 1076 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: or in Chinese medicine they have the five elements, or 1077 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: we have the en yang, and we have the imbalances 1078 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: and deficiencies or excesses. And this is exactly how the 1079 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: body works. These ancient technologies from thousands of years ago 1080 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,240 Speaker 1: figured it out. We just now we're putting scientific language 1081 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: on it and understanding and so there's instead of one 1082 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five thousand diseases. There's these disturbances in 1083 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: these core systems, many of which are also the hallmarks 1084 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: of aging, like your microbiome, your immune system, how you 1085 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: make energy, your mitochondria, your detox system, how you get 1086 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: rid of toxins, your transport system. I move things around 1087 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: in your body, and your circulation and limps or some 1088 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: communication systems, which is your hormones, your transmitters, your peptides, 1089 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 1: all the millions of chemical reactions that happen all the 1090 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 1: time and have to be coordinated. And your structural system 1091 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: from your biomechanical structure and your skeleton to your sub 1092 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: cellular structures. All of those systems have to be in 1093 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 1: balance for you to be healthy. So, as a functional 1094 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 1: medicine doctor, as a systems thinker, I look at how 1095 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: do we find out why they're out of balance? How 1096 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: do we take out this stuff that's causing in balance 1097 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: and put back the stuff that's creating balance. So let's 1098 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 1: say they gut for example, Well, you might have food sensitivities, 1099 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: you might have bad bugs growing in your guts, so 1100 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: you got to remove those things. You got to remove 1101 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,800 Speaker 1: those foods like luten or dairy and you got to 1102 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: get rid of you know, the bad bugs that are 1103 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: growing in the gut. Maybe you need some herbs or 1104 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: even an anty fungal or in antibiotic. And then how 1105 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: do you repair that? How do you give the gut 1106 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 1: what it needs? You need probotics and probotics and polyphenols, 1107 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: and you need the right nutrients like zinc and vitamin 1108 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: A and and I'll make it three fasts to help 1109 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: the gut heal and glue to mean, so we know 1110 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: what the ingredients are for each take out and put in, 1111 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: and so we apply that to each thing, including the 1112 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 1: immune system. I mean. One of the most shocking things 1113 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,320 Speaker 1: to me we're in COVID was that we are about 1114 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: four percent of the world's population in America, and we 1115 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: have an extraordinary healthcare system and spend twice as much 1116 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: as any other developed nation, and we were sixteen percent 1117 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 1: of the cases of COVID and deaths, So four percent 1118 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 1: of population in the world, four times as many death 1119 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,720 Speaker 1: as we probably should have had, and we probably should 1120 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: be even less than the rest of the world because 1121 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: of our healthcare system. Why was that? It's because our 1122 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 1: diet is so bad that we're pre inflamed so when 1123 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: COVID came, it was like throwing gas on the fire. 1124 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: And we were pre inflamed because we were obese, which 1125 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 1: were chronically ill because we have all these diseases of inflammation, 1126 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: and so that's really why it was. It was sort 1127 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 1: of shocking to me that that, you know, nobody has 1128 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: talked about this, and yeah, we have the power to 1129 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 1: regulate our immune systems by what we're eating. Sugar suppresses 1130 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: your immune system, you know, helping overweight suppresses your immune 1131 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 1: system even in the response to vaccines. If you're overweight 1132 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 1: or you're elderly, because you're inflamed, your immune system doesn't 1133 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: respond to vaccines. I think everyone's experiencing a low immunity, 1134 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, in general as well, because of all these 1135 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: factors that you've talked about today as well. And I 1136 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: just want everyone to see. I want to point this 1137 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: out for everyone who's watching the show. If you're listening, 1138 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 1: then I'm explaining what I'm doing. I just want to 1139 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: show this to everyone who's watching, because you can actually 1140 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: see how the book breaks down. The Young Forever program, 1141 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: which is the program that Mark recommends in the book 1142 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: Young Forever, and what I love about it is that 1143 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 1: as you're flicking through this book, you're just going to 1144 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 1: see a very systematic and formulaic breakdown of the system. 1145 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: It's not just it's a how to manual for how 1146 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: your body works. So yes, yes, you didn't get born 1147 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: with that instruction manual. This is a good one. Yeah. 1148 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: I want to point that out to everyone who's sitting 1149 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: there going like me. Often I can get you know, 1150 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 1: I can often start thinking, well, this is a lot 1151 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: of information. I don't know enough where do I start, 1152 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 1: what do I do? But the book, to me, it 1153 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: does a great job. I'd simplifying it. Yeah, I mean 1154 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: the book is really three parts. The first is the why, 1155 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 1: like why are we aging? What's going on? A little 1156 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 1: bit of science geeky. If you don't like any of that, 1157 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 1: you can skip it. But I like to know why. 1158 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: And then there's the what, like there's the what to do, 1159 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 1: and then there's the how to do it. Yeah, so 1160 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: it really is is really you know, I'm a doctor. 1161 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: I take care of patience and so I get results 1162 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: by giving people a programmatic plan to follow. So this 1163 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: is what I've been doing for thirty years, you know, 1164 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of great longevity books out there, 1165 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: but they're often by academics and I've learned so much 1166 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: from them, but they but they're like, well what do 1167 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: I do? How do how do I what do I 1168 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 1: have to do? Exactly? But this breaks it down exactly, 1169 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: even day by day and what you can do? Yeah, Mark, 1170 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: is this someone that you've worked with that was so 1171 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: negative and felt that they were too late to solve 1172 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: their challenges, but you were able to find some change 1173 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 1: in them? Could you tell us about Yes, I mean, 1174 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: you know one of the most remarkable patients that had 1175 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: and she was part of a group program. We had 1176 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: a Cleveland clinic called Functioning for Life, which used the 1177 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 1: powerful community to help people change behavior. And she was 1178 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 1: a woman who was allowed to go on her way out. 1179 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: She was sixty six years old. She had typed to 1180 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 1: diabetes for ten years. She had heart failure, she had 1181 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: kidneys who were failing, liver was failing and fatty. She 1182 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: had high blood pressure if she's in a pile of 1183 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: hills that her copay was twenty thousand, who knows what 1184 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: she was costing the healthcare system and not out of 1185 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: the hospital. Her body mass index was forty three, which 1186 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: is severely obese, you know, twenty five or less. It's 1187 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: normal thirties, obese forties, just like next level, right, And 1188 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: she came to the program which she changed her diet. 1189 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: She was a fairly educated woman, but she and it 1190 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: was a minister in her congregation, but she really grew 1191 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: up in a family that never ate real food. So 1192 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: everything came from a box, a package you can highly process. 1193 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: And that's just what she did for her whole life. 1194 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: At sixty six years old, and she was on her 1195 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: way to a hard transplant and a kidney transplant. And 1196 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: you think, go from a traditional doctor point of view, well, 1197 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, you can't really do anything about that. Maybe 1198 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: you can manage these diseases and make make her live 1199 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: a little longer and make her quality vife a little better. 1200 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: But I'm like, no way, I don't want to manage disease. 1201 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 1: I want to get rid of it. So we put 1202 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 1: her on a diet. It's a very anti inflammatory diet. 1203 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 1: It's whole foods, plant rich, lots of good fats. We 1204 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: didn't even get her moving or exercising in the beating 1205 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: because it's hard when you're that big to move. But 1206 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 1: just change your food, maybe a few supplements, not a lot, 1207 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 1: vitamin D fistrel multi vitamin. In three days, she was 1208 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: off for insulin. In three months, she reversed. Everyone in 1209 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 1: her disease is objectively by you know, traditional conventional medicine, 1210 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 1: bio markers, or heart failure reversed, her kidney's normalized, or 1211 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 1: liver normalized, or high blood pressure normalized. Her diabetes or 1212 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: blood sugar went from a once went from eleven, which 1213 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: is like probably should be in the hospital level of 1214 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 1: blood sugar three four hundred to like five point five, 1215 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: which is actually perfectly normal. She lost forty three pounds 1216 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 1: in the year, she lost one hundred and sixteen pounds. 1217 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: And I've got the pictures that before and after I'll 1218 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 1: share with you. It's really remarkable. I had, Holy cow. 1219 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: You know, there is no drug on the planet that 1220 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 1: works as well as food. I mean, if I could 1221 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: give her a pill to verse all diseases. As a doctor, 1222 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: I'd write that prescription all day long. I'm agnostic when 1223 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: it comes to the therapy. I don't care if it's 1224 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: exercise or exorcism, whatever a patient needs, you know, I'm 1225 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna give it. And so I'm like, Wow, this is such, 1226 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: this is such an eye opener for so many people 1227 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 1: to see it's possible. You know, another patient with kidneys, 1228 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 1: we're failing and we did this whole program and he 1229 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: went to see his neprologist and think I was like, 1230 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: what are you doing? I've never seen a kidney fail 1231 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 1: you reverse? What are you doing? And he couldn't believe it, 1232 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: because doctors don't get trained to do this, so they 1233 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: don't see it, so they don't believe it. They goes, well, 1234 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: there's no evidence for this, Well, maybe you haven't looked, 1235 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 1: because there is plenty of evidence even though there's so 1236 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 1: much evidence on lifestyle and diet. Do we pay for 1237 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 1: food is medicine? No? Yeah? And it is the most 1238 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,479 Speaker 1: powerful drug. Yeah. Well, I hope that gives anyone who's 1239 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 1: listening and watching a sense of confidence as well, that 1240 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, no matter how far you think you are, 1241 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm any challenges you're going through right now now that 1242 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: hopefully this can at least be another alternative option to 1243 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: try completely if you haven't tried it already. It's so needed. Mark. 1244 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 1: We end every episode with a final five, which are 1245 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 1: a fast five, so every ancet to be given in 1246 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: one word to one sentence maximum. Okay, got it, and 1247 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,919 Speaker 1: so Mark, these are your final five. Question one, what's 1248 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: the best health advice or diet advice you've ever received? 1249 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: It's probably Michael Pollan's eat food, not too much, mostly plants. 1250 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 1: It's just so simple, so clear, and it needs to 1251 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: be defined like eat food, what food, real food, whole food, 1252 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, But yeah, yeah, I love it. A second question, 1253 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 1: what's the worst advice you've ever heard? Health advice you've 1254 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: ever heard received? Or give? God? Eat a high carb 1255 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: diet six to eleven servings of bread, rice, serumpasta day 1256 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: to save your life, which has caused more deaths and 1257 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: more disease than almost anything in history. Which is a 1258 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 1: government's food pyramid in nineteen ninety two. And that's so 1259 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: common in all meals today. Oh it's terrible. Yeah, we're 1260 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: still we're still yeah, we're still promoting that stuff. It's 1261 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 1: not great. Question number three, what's something that you used 1262 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: to think was true about health but now you've changed 1263 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 1: your mind about it? I think I used to believe 1264 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 1: this is a very controversial topic, which was must healthier 1265 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: to be a vegan or vegetarian. And I think as 1266 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: I've sort of gotten understand the science and the biology 1267 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: of longevity that we need adequate protein as we get older, 1268 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: and if we don't eat enough, we can't make muscle 1269 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: and muscle as the currency of aging. So I think 1270 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: it's eating the right stuff. And you know, I think 1271 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: if people have a moral issue with animals, we can 1272 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 1: work around it. But I think from a health perspective, 1273 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 1: eating regenerally raised animals that are well cared for, that 1274 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 1: are humanely raised, that regenerate ecosystems, increased biodiversity, reverse climate change, 1275 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: and create nutrient dense food is really a big shift 1276 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 1: for me from being a vegan vegetarian to kind of 1277 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: see what happened when I did that. Amazing. Thank you 1278 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 1: for that answer, and I'll pick your brain about that 1279 01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: health please. Question number four, what's the small less change 1280 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 1: someone can make today to experience some positive impact in 1281 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: their way they feel. I think it's do one small thing. 1282 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 1: You know, when they say floss one tooth, ye, do 1283 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: one push up tomorrow, dude too. So start with small things. 1284 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 1: You know, uh, you know, maybe you're drinking twelve cokes 1285 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 1: ad egg, go to eleven and go to ten. You 1286 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: do one small thing to improve your health and then 1287 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: that will build over time absolutely. And fifth and final question, 1288 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: if you could create one law that everyone in the 1289 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 1: world had to follow, what would it be. Oh, that's easy. 1290 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 1: I would I would make a law they would make 1291 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 1: food quality, and that I can define what that is 1292 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 1: the most important determinant of all of our food policies 1293 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: and all of our agriculture, the most nutrient dense, whole, 1294 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: real food we should be promoting and subsidizing and growing. 1295 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I love that. That would be powerful. I mean, that'd 1296 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: be so useful. Yeah, solve so many problems. I mean, 1297 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 1: that's you've talked about that in your previous book. I 1298 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 1: remember we discussed it, like just how much could change 1299 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: at a systemic level to transform the healthcare of the world. Well, 1300 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 1: thinking about all the things we talked about, from the 1301 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 1: mental health issues to the physical health issues, to the 1302 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 1: cost of society to damage the environment, it's all driven 1303 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 1: by the production of ultra process food and the dissemination 1304 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: of it and the eating of it, which is sixty 1305 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: to seventy percent of our calories. That has got to stop. 1306 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 1: It's just it's crushing us with the weight of that, 1307 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: the figurative and literal weight of that. Absolutely everyone the 1308 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 1: book is called Young Forever by Mark Kyman, The Secrets 1309 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 1: to living your longest, healthiest life with a step by 1310 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 1: step program to reverse disease, ease pain, and renew energy. 1311 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Make sure you go and grab a copy of this book, 1312 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: order it right now. I highly recommend deeply reading this 1313 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: with a group. If you can get together with a 1314 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 1: bunch of friends as Mark was talking about, and to 1315 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 1: read this together and to support each other, maybe you're 1316 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 1: going to take a chap to reach and help teach 1317 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: each other. I just feel that when health becomes this 1318 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: collective responsibility in a community, it becomes a lot easier 1319 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: when we feel we're learning with each other, from each 1320 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 1: other and growing together as opposed to when we're trying 1321 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 1: to do it ourselves. So my recommendation is go and 1322 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 1: make this your book club pick. Go and follow doctor 1323 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: Mark Hyman on Instagram and across social media if you 1324 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: don't already, and tag me and Mark with what you're testing, 1325 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 1: what you're experimenting with, what in the book is resonating 1326 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 1: with you, makes you take pictures, tag us both, share 1327 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 1: it with us because I love seeing the changes you're 1328 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: making based on these conversations. Mark, any final words, any 1329 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 1: last thoughts you want to share with us. Yeah, I 1330 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: think that you just said it all day. I think 1331 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 1: that the beauty is that people are just a few 1332 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: short days away from feeling better. It's not about living 1333 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 1: to one hundred and twenty. It's about feeling good now. 1334 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 1: This is not about a hedonistic, narcissistic pursuit of longevity. 1335 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: It's about optimizing your health and well being so you 1336 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,120 Speaker 1: can show up in the world and love better, and 1337 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 1: serve better, and be better and add value to the 1338 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 1: world and add your contribution to the world and not 1339 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 1: be caught in a spiral of dysfunction and disease that 1340 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 1: makes us kind of retreat from being part of the 1341 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 1: larger community of humanity. That's beautiful, Mark, Thank you so 1342 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 1: much for doing the work you do. Thank you for 1343 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 1: showing up as you do. And I'm so excited to 1344 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: join you hopefully next year. We need to plan that out. Okay, 1345 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 1: I'll give you the day being very serious, but I'm 1346 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: very excited. And during twelve to nineteenth and a Bisa 1347 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 1: at six senses and you can all come if you want. 1348 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 1: We'll not all of you. I think it's only room 1349 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,479 Speaker 1: for forty five. But you know, I love it. Mark, 1350 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for this and I can't wait 1351 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: to have you back on the show again. Thank you 1352 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 1: so much.