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Speaker 1: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield.

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Speaker 4: Now your hosts.

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Speaker 2: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 3: What's today? Hump Day? Hop day? You look alive at

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Speaker 3: a Chili Tostitos Championship Plaza outside the Ford Center in

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Speaker 3: the Star at the Star in Frisco, Texas, where it

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Speaker 3: is windy, wendy, wendy, fifty eight degrees, it feels like

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Speaker 3: fifty two. The high is going to be sixty one

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Speaker 3: and the low tonight fell forty three.

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Speaker 5: Nobody likes that he is Shannon. He is a bundled

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Speaker 5: up Nate Chris Beaman is in the back tworking and tweaking.

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Speaker 5: Whoa yeah, Jesse is coming.

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Speaker 3: In hot Okay, I am Kurt.

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Speaker 1: Two pumps, Yeah yeah, three, I'll get you a penalty.

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Speaker 3: Get your flag together.

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Speaker 5: We have the Sports Tucker Criminals, brill people twhen we speak.

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Speaker 3: Brought to each and every show by Wingstop, where Flavorite

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Speaker 3: gets its wing. Thank you again, wingstop for gear and

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Speaker 3: the food and man, we got our what two days

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Speaker 3: of fall? And then winter will be here next week.

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Speaker 3: I think it's supposed to be down in the forties.

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Speaker 1: Wow, thirties maybe?

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Speaker 3: So how you guys doing today? Mentals and dentals?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 1: Good? I'm good man?

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Speaker 5: Good? Yeah? Good?

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Speaker 3: What you've been staying up watching baseball this week? You watch?

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Speaker 1: How was it going? I was baseball going? Toronto knows

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Speaker 1: the World Series?

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Speaker 5: Yea, Toronto's up three games. No, it's too too too Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So this guy is a feet on this picture. Oh tier,

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Speaker 1: they say gave up six gave up four runs.

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Speaker 4: The other night.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember who all got charged with him out.

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Speaker 5: He didn't give them all.

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Speaker 1: Oh he didn't give him all. Okay, I just look highlights. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't watch enough.

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Speaker 3: They played till what two thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 5: I made it to about fifteen. At one am, I

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Speaker 5: I went to bed. So I.

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Speaker 1: Save a little bit for hanging with the boy.

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Speaker 3: Just look that Jesse's uh, Jesse's uh on his way.

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Speaker 3: He'll be here soon.

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Speaker 1: But when you hollo, he said, let's take him to

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Speaker 1: get it.

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Speaker 3: He said one hundred and ten years. I think that's

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Speaker 3: a type of I think he probably meant one ten

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Speaker 3: so quick story before we get into football, where you know,

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Speaker 3: get coming in the coming in down the hall. He's

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Speaker 3: coming from the cafeteria. Chris coming from the cafeteria. We

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Speaker 3: all converge at the right there by the security desk,

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Speaker 3: coming down the same hall, and here comes up. All

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Speaker 3: of us have desserts in our hands, and Steven's walking

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Speaker 3: down the hall. Stephen Jones and about what fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pow power guy, ye.

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Speaker 3: Dressed up in nice suits. Steven's walking down the hall

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Speaker 3: and Nate hands me just played the cookies and goes

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Speaker 3: here here take this, Stephen, who are these distinguished joke?

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Speaker 3: Stephen goes, this is Nate Newton. He's on the wall. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then Nate's just a commenting everybody and complimenting them.

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Speaker 3: And Nate's Nate.

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Speaker 1: You would have been proud of it, would have been

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Speaker 1: proud of me.

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Speaker 3: They does how to play the game.

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Speaker 1: Look at it. They call my name, everybody else call me.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go to work the wall.

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Speaker 3: He's on the wall over there has a couple of

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 1: He said something like that.

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Speaker 3: That was Funny on the Wall pros. Yeah, no big deal.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, mister Jones, I got three super Bowl rings

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Speaker 3: for you too, Buddy, we get to hang out with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we get to hang out bro and the awesome.

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Speaker 6: So but you said some Chris, all right, I said,

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Speaker 6: I didn't think you're going to bring up the three

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Speaker 6: super bowls you got for Fingers, Funny and too Jesse.

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Speaker 1: You get here because what I have? I felt so

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Speaker 1: bad last week doing all of that studying. I don't

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Speaker 1: like being right because that hurt me in the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: we got beat. I was like, man, I did all

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Speaker 1: that studying to tell everybody this. I just did minimal

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Speaker 5: But depressing film.

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Speaker 1: No, this this I'm not gonna start. I'm not gonna start. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's go to your your your question.

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Speaker 3: We'll start with Kurt's first one. Yeah, Shoddy again said

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Speaker 3: in his press conference today, did he did he end

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Speaker 3: like right before we went on the air, Cris, because

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Speaker 1: Car before I got it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So he again said there's gonna be some changes, and

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Speaker 3: he was talking about, you know, I think we all

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Speaker 1: And yes, he was talking about his press.

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Speaker 3: Conference how ibra Flus has been really good about it

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Speaker 3: because as an assistant coach, you don't ever want the

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Speaker 3: coach in your meetings. He said he used to take

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Speaker 3: been really good about him sitting in and listening. But

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Speaker 3: I think all these changes we're thinking about are going

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Speaker 3: to be on the defensive side of the ball. Do

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Speaker 3: they need to change stuff on the offense?

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Speaker 1: I heard something that was really important that Brian, Brian

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Speaker 1: and I got. Yes. He said that our center was

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Speaker 1: ready to go, and they, you know, they just wanted

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Speaker 1: I do understand if you if they're equal, but I

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Speaker 1: his limited play as an offensive player. He always wanted

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Speaker 1: And I'm with him on that. You know, a lot

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Speaker 5: You think BB's the better.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because this is one of the games

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Speaker 1: ninety three for Denver, number the kid other kids, number

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Speaker 1: ninety six. I don't know how to pronounce his name.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to mess it up because I got

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Speaker 1: great respect for what he does. When I see guys

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Speaker 1: said when Morsi first got here, and I told you

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Speaker 1: and put his hands in the middle of the center,

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Speaker 1: ninety three, that's all he does. Now, he even because

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Speaker 1: he came from a different team, he now wants you

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because it's normal for you just to

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Speaker 1: that right there, if you can take the middle of

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Speaker 1: it and beat it up and just physically whoop it, you,

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Speaker 1: now everything's opens up for you. And that is what

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Speaker 1: Denver did to us. They had them literally scared to

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Speaker 1: me to hear that, Cooper Bebe was ready. He's a

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Speaker 1: he can get because this thing, like when we draft guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm just killing time for Jess. When we draft guys

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Speaker 1: one picks from OTA's from when they get off the plane, whoever,

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Speaker 1: meeting with them. You know how the press come, oh,

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Speaker 1: one picks. If it goes that way. Now, the first

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Speaker 1: why I kind of shook me a little bit. BB's

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Speaker 1: what two years in now he needs every rep he

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Speaker 5: Where they worried that because he got such a good

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Speaker 1: If that's the problem, we shouldn't have drafted him.

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Speaker 1: I'm serious. If that is the problem, Uh, now, quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: that that's the only exception I make with any any position,

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Speaker 1: you know, But any other position now, I'm not making

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Speaker 1: no exceptions. If you drafted him, if you started him,

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Speaker 1: if he's better then Hoffman, why is he not playing

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Speaker 1: unless and y'all didn't did They did not state this

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Speaker 1: unless he was not physically ready to come back. But

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Speaker 1: they did not state that. I did not see anywhere

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Speaker 5: That's something you know, you talked about. You know, Ronald

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Speaker 5: Jones was a hit of Booker at the start of

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Speaker 1: So that's I don't like, don't I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: if you drafted outside linebacker or and when we had

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Speaker 1: the other guy here that say at Green Bay, okay, bro,

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Speaker 1: you got to go on the other side, or you

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Speaker 1: got to be on the bench. This is elite you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. If you happen to have because of the

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Speaker 1: you got elite sitting there. No, sir, no, I ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna take elit off the field for you know, for

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Speaker 1: play and learn the NFL. But if you don't have

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Speaker 1: why is he not the start? Unless he was something

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Speaker 5: I mean, well, I mean unless they you know, Hoppin

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Speaker 1: And maybe coach knows something. I'm trying to get coach

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Speaker 1: But that's what preseason for, you know, preseason to be

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Speaker 1: I just you know, he seemed to be valuable. He

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Speaker 4: You got us, we get us one time, you get

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Speaker 1: we got to have something off of this.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's running down the line, like you said,

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Speaker 1: Well, you kind of jammed up because you are taking

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: you guys miss yet Nate has because he made it

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Speaker 3: clear right up front that he ain't watched no film

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Speaker 1: I watched Phil It's just nothing.

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Speaker 4: Probably you think that I guess that front that's probably

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Speaker 4: best because no, no, no, you haven't been in a

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Speaker 5: Is that his call or the off lord?

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Speaker 4: I think it might be a combination of both, because

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Speaker 4: because they always want to go, go, go, go, go,

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Speaker 4: And then as a coach, go, you're not going and

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Speaker 5: Riley's offensive line coach White Yes.

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Speaker 4: Connor Riley is offensive line coach, pseudo offensive line coach.

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Speaker 4: In tendem with Clayton Adams, do y'all.

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Speaker 3: Think the Cowboys should be more aggressive with these two

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Speaker 3: Like last week, probably didn't have time to get too

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Speaker 4: let Benito go free. But what ended up happened? Your

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Speaker 4: left tackle got beat inside where you know he can't

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Speaker 4: like the play is designed, you can't get beat inside

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Speaker 4: because you don't have the health there anymore. We're spinning

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Speaker 4: Tyler Smith out to go get Benito who's rushing from

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Speaker 4: the outside. Remember remember you left him out there, you

445
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Speaker 4: chucked him, and then you can't get beat inside. You

446
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Speaker 4: get beat inside. But Dak is so masterful in the pocket.

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Speaker 4: He's he's he's back Penalt, he's Backpalant and he gets

448
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Speaker 4: just enough on it before he is absolutely drilled by

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Speaker 4: two three hundred pound dudes. Now, if he isn't as good,

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Speaker 4: or you put that scenario into play multiple times, now

451
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Speaker 4: that becomes a sack that becomes when you watch the

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Speaker 4: play like he just when I tell you, he just

453
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Speaker 4: gets enough on it, because if not, it goes straight up.

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Speaker 1: In the air to the interception.

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Speaker 4: And so the more you start talking about that level

456
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Speaker 4: of going down the field, that's different that's different than

457
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Speaker 4: you just saying hut, and I'm throwing a go ball

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Speaker 4: and let pickings beat the male line of scrimmage and

459
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Speaker 4: try to go make a play. That's different than you're

460
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Speaker 4: talking about design stuff down the field. Now you gotta

461
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Speaker 4: go too tight in sets.

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Speaker 3: You know.

463
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Speaker 4: Now it's a two male route. Now there's less stuff happening,

464
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: more focused on those two guys. It's less in the

465
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Speaker 4: flow of the game. So being more aggressive that way,

466
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Speaker 4: I think I think coach Schottenheimer understands that this offensive

467
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 4: line isn't the best at pass protecting right now, and

468
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Speaker 4: hence why you see this offense being at such the

469
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Speaker 4: short routes or such so prominent in this in this

470
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Speaker 4: passing game. The timing of it all is coming out

471
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Speaker 4: quicker quicker, quicker, quicker, quicker. You're seeing when they are

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Speaker 4: taking those calculated deep shots. It's two tight end sets.

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Speaker 4: It's rolling deck out a certain way because having him

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Speaker 4: just standing in the pocket again once in the blue

475
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Speaker 4: is fine. But over time with the way they aren't

476
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Speaker 4: truly being able to hold up their blocks, especially on

477
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Speaker 4: the ends, especially your tackles, You're you're welcoming that that uh,

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Speaker 4: that catastrophe to happen to your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Would you would you incorporate more go routes with as

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Speaker 3: good as pickings is, with the late hands and the

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Speaker 3: way he pulls, you know, Pat p I calls. Would

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Speaker 3: you would you do a little bit more than what

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Speaker 3: they're doing or is it just well, the game kind

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Speaker 3: of dictates what you're able to do.

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Speaker 4: The game dictated and also teams just aren't letting you

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Speaker 4: throw these deep balls to these guys. You you have

487
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Speaker 4: to you have to pick and choose when they're dictating it,

488
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Speaker 4: they're they're doubling guys or you know, they're shading guys

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Speaker 4: over there. So the the opportunity for you to throw

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Speaker 4: go routes because even if you come to the line

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Speaker 4: of scrimmage, you have to recognize it. You have to

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Speaker 4: be able to come to lone scirs and go, oh,

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Speaker 4: this is the one play where now we have man

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Speaker 4: the man coverage and then be right right like he

495
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Speaker 4: has to win to the line of scrimmage. The ball

496
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Speaker 4: has to be completed there and now we have to

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Speaker 4: make sure all those things come into play. Taking the

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Speaker 4: shots are fine, but again you always have to remember

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Speaker 4: if we don't complete it, when are we taking these shots?

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Speaker 4: We take it on a first down, second down, third down.

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Speaker 4: How is it happening? The unfairness that this offense has

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Speaker 4: been put in because of the lack of defense is

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Speaker 4: that they have to be everything has to be so

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Speaker 4: freaking calculated that we can't really waste plate sacrifice. He

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Speaker 4: can't sacrifice it down because now I'm like, damn, we

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Speaker 4: gotta punt. Now we punt. The likelihood of that opposing

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Speaker 4: offense only going to get points it's very high at

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Speaker 4: this point in time right any offense that has any

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Speaker 4: anything worth them is the likelihood of them scoring points.

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Speaker 4: And your defense is high right now, So you want

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Speaker 4: to take them. But I gotta make sure that it's right.

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Speaker 4: I gotta make sure you know, we're not too backed up.

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Speaker 4: I gotta make sure. It's a lot of factors that

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Speaker 4: come into it, and it's unfair. But the offense can't.

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Speaker 4: They can't miss a beat. They can't miss a beat,

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Speaker 4: they can't miss a play. Things gotta go absolutely perfect

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Speaker 4: for them. You gotta get points out of every single drive.

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Speaker 4: And if you don't, you know, you find yourself up

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Speaker 4: you know, doodo creek with no paddle Because you're off

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Speaker 4: your defense, can't stop anybody.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's take our last break.

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Speaker 1: Definitely taking my hand in the creek.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't, don't put it in not that creek water.

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Speaker 3: Take our last break. When we come back, we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about the Arizona Cardinals defense on hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 3: this out yesterday and I think maybe even Monday and Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: that this Cardinals team has been in every game. Their

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Speaker 3: five losses have been what single digits, every one of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're two and five, score like thirteen or something, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One fifty. They've only been out scored one fifty four

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Speaker 3: to which is weird. But all five of their lost

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Speaker 3: been by single digits. So they've been in every game, right, yes,

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Speaker 3: and their defense is not that bad.

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Speaker 1: Right. They play run thirteen versus run twenty five events

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Speaker 1: versus the past. This team, I'm telling you, they like

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Speaker 1: we are sitting there saying it's wrong that we got

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Speaker 1: this defense to go along with dak. I promise you.

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Speaker 1: They fans are just saying, man, if our offense is

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Speaker 1: just do this, the'se got. Tell me from wrong, Jesson,

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Speaker 1: tell me from wrong. These guys are very disciplined. They

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Speaker 1: run a three four defense. Their linebackers are the strength.

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Speaker 1: Now they do have Kalais Campbell number ninety three defensive end,

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Speaker 1: and they have Devin Thomas and their their nose tackle,

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Speaker 1: but most of their work is being done by their

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Speaker 1: their linebackers and their safeties. They do a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: But this is the part I want to get to.

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Speaker 1: It looked like they plan a defense that we abandon

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Speaker 1: about two weeks ago. And these guys are running this

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Speaker 1: thing to perfection. And tell me I'm wrong, Jess, I'll

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Speaker 1: stop you when you're lying this. They play hard, they

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Speaker 1: play fast even when things go wrong. You can see

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Speaker 1: it ain't no panic, you know how I guys be

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Speaker 1: looking around when something happened. They gonna do that. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna test the discipline of our offensive line. Can you

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Speaker 1: block me for anywhere from six to twelve plays to score?

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Speaker 1: If you get me, you got me. But you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do this every time. You have to come

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Speaker 1: out be disciplined on our offense. Don't have these pre

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Speaker 1: snap penalties. Your wide receivers. We're gonna keep them in

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Speaker 1: front from us, and we're gonna tackle them.

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Speaker 5: They're a thing. Yes, yeah, pressure where we weren't getting

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Speaker 5: the pressure that The.

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Speaker 1: Thing is they don't. They're not a big sack team.

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Speaker 1: They're not a big sack team, but they're They're gonna

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Speaker 1: depend on their guys being in the right place, knocking

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Speaker 1: down enough passes, are keeping you in a short enough

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Speaker 1: run here and there, because the average four point two

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Speaker 1: a carry when you do run the ball like one

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Speaker 1: hundred or one hundred and nine yards that people rush for.

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Speaker 1: But they it's something something about them that you gonna

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Speaker 1: play them all the way to the wire. Their five

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Speaker 1: losses have been lost with two three minutes left in

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Speaker 1: the game, of five minutes left in the game. These

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you their defense could be something special if

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Speaker 1: their offense we just get a few more points. Now

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Speaker 1: I've seen them drop two or three touch two or

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Speaker 1: three interception. I've seen them drop Boo the Baker drop

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Speaker 1: one against the Coats. The game after that, the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay game, Thompson dropped one. They I mean right in

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Speaker 1: their hands. They are well coached team, and I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: All I've looked at is the defense, and they believe

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Speaker 1: in their three four. They'll give you some four man looks.

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Speaker 1: They give you diamond nickel. They'll take out the big

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Speaker 1: guys and leave the all the linebackers. They got sweat

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Speaker 1: on that team. They got some athletes, but they are

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Speaker 1: not at their best. I'm talking about like when we

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Speaker 1: knew sweat with the Eagles. We knew Khalis camera five

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Speaker 1: years ago. But they do. They can make plays and

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Speaker 1: they still will make plays if you if you slip up.

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Speaker 1: The big thing is for me. They have number ninety four,

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Speaker 1: Delvin Thomason, big kid. They have number bill I. Nicholson

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Speaker 1: with Blid Nicholson and number seventy nine. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He may not get much run, but these are big

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Speaker 1: nose guards. These are big, big nose guards. Now they

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Speaker 1: come out when they when they finish gets some hot

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Speaker 1: and heavy pass rush, they'll come out, but his first

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Speaker 1: and second down is they figure it's a run situation.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see one of them big boys sitting in

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Speaker 1: the middle.

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Speaker 4: When I watched him, and I think everything Nate will say,

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Speaker 4: I think you're correct.

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Speaker 1: They don't.

656
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Speaker 4: The thing that they're missing on this defense is that

657
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 4: they don't have every offense, every defense needs to have

658
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 4: that elite player.

659
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: Yes, they.

660
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: Don't on any level. And I know that what Budda

661
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 4: Baker was, and he's still a good player, but he's

662
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 4: not He's not elite. He's not a he's not a

663
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 4: he's not a game changer like he was three years ago. Yeah,

664
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 4: like at one point in time, you know you you

665
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: you were looking on the search for Buddha Baker. Kalais

666
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: Campbell's the name that you know that you remember. Klais

667
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: is on He's on the end, he's on he's on

668
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: his farewell tour.

669
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

670
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: I watched Kalais and a lot of times, man, the

671
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: ball snapped players standing straight up. He's just relying on

672
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 4: old man strength and technique. Yeah, but you know, the

673
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 4: last thing you want to be is when you when

674
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: you were trenches, you I shouldn't be able to see

675
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 4: the back of your numbers, flesh straight up every single snap.

676
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: He's just old man. He get down there sometimes and

677
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 4: it's like it takes him a while to get down there.

678
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 4: But to Nate's points, Uh, and if you remember there,

679
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: they're head coach Jonathan Gannett. He's been defensive coordinator for

680
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles, so we remember playing him over there.

681
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: And of course defensive minded coaches, so they they are

682
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: disciplined in what they do.

683
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 5: Uh.

684
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: They guys play hard and they give great effort. The

685
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: problem is they just don't have a guy that can

686
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: can solely separate himself from the pack. It's just a

687
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: collection of dudes. And their superpower is is that we

688
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: get eleven guys working on the same plane at the

689
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: same time consistently. That's the difference between them and correct, Yeah,

690
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: is that they're not a talent This is not a

691
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: talented group. Like when you like you're not looking around

692
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: like you know, man, wow, this this guy that guy

693
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: you got Josh? Yeah, Like yeah, like, ain't that Josh?

694
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Now, no baby, and who

695
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: can love your love? But I say that now and

696
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: I go. But it's the Cowboys and so the level

697
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: will go up when they play against the people like

698
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 4: you said that they don't. I'm telling you what I saw.

699
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 4: I'm telling you what I saw again. Good group. I

700
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: like Will Johnson. Uh he he was a cornerback that

701
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 4: a lot of people talked about in the draft. Some

702
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 4: may say that, you know, he was a steal to go.

703
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: No he went what did he go in the draft?

704
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: U N second round?

705
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: Right?

706
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 4: Second round?

707
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: Second round?

708
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, people like you know that was a steal for

709
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: them in the second round. Like I said, some of

710
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 4: the names you remember. But there's nothing that when I'm

711
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: watching this group that I'm like, boy, you better watch

712
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 4: out for this, better watch out for him, you better

713
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: do Like there isn't anything. They just a group that

714
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 4: plays hard. They played disciplined football.

715
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: Even their past rush. They just come as I mean,

716
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: nobody they it's like everybody said, hey man, we're gonna

717
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: take eighteen steps, but we're gonna all do it together.

718
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: Nobody breaks free like you saw for Dinver, Like you

719
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: see the Nick Nick break free, or you'll see ninety

720
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: nine break free, right, But everybody's just getting blocked, but

721
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: they pushing. They got back.

722
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: You know, It's just one of those deals. Where they're like, man,

723
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: and that's why you see some of the games have

724
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: to come down to those one possessions because they're not

725
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: trying to give up too many big plays, especially in

726
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: the passing game. The coach ran well on them with

727
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor, and that's that's one of the first games

728
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: that I watch because I said, all right, I want

729
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 4: to see what can we do in the run game,

730
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: how can we how can we attack them up front

731
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 4: the passing game. The passing game will come. I'm not

732
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 4: worried about that. I know that what we got a

733
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: CD Lamb and George Pickens, that will come. But I'm like, man,

734
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 4: can we get this run game going again so that

735
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: we can get some more light boxes, the light boxes.

736
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: I can take Shannon more shots down the football field

737
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: when I got a light box. But if they feel

738
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: like they can stop our run game with their front four,

739
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 4: their front you know, front six, whatever, front seven, then

740
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 4: they gonna keep dropping them guys in the back. And

741
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 4: now you're gonna have to figure out how to get

742
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: those plus plays, those exposive plays, fifteen to twenty yard

743
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: plus plays with two safeties back there.

744
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: How are they They're doing pretty good in the in

745
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: the in the passing game, they've only had one three

746
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: hundred yard passer, and then they held Green Bay to

747
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty eight yards passing and they played

748
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 3: some some decent offensive Indie Green Bay. Seattle's been throwing

749
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: it around. What makes them so good in the past.

750
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: They're consistent, like if they're supposed to be in his

751
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: own everybody's where they're supposed to be, So it makes

752
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 4: it more difficult for you to complete like they're they're

753
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: not busting plays, they're not misassignments. There's not like people

754
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: out of position. They're just a group that's just like,

755
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: we ain't really talented. And that's probably a compensation that

756
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 4: coach probably had with them, saying, hey, we ain't the

757
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: most talented group in the world. We don't got a

758
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: bunch of All pros running around here, Pro Bowls running

759
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: around here, So how are we going to be able

760
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: to compete every single week?

761
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: Do your job?

762
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: You know, I was listening to the Buddha Baker on

763
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: NFL and you know, in the NFL talk show for radio,

764
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: and they had him on and one of the I

765
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: don't know who the guy was, they played together, so

766
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: he was on he said, Man, we remember we used

767
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: to meet with the DVS once a week to watch film.

768
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: He said, oh, no, it ain't just the DVS. Now

769
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: it's every Friday we watch film to make sure we

770
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: got our calls right. The whole team, the whole defense

771
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: does is now to make sure our calls are right,

772
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: to make sure everybody's lying up. Even sometimes we say hey,

773
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: as a group, hey we don't like this, let's take

774
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: it to the coach.

775
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 5: So that's all player driven.

776
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: I hate to say. I didn't want to say that,

777
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: but lord jeez, I'm getting into the press.

778
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: State and it's only Wednesday. Wait till hold that till

779
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: him tomorrow.

780
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 4: He wanted to have an extra day. Yeah, trying to

781
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 4: have an extra day.

782
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't want the extra day. They coming here Friday.

783
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: Do you think do you think this off the Cowboys

784
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: offense and at home, obviously it's a little bit of

785
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: a different game. You can change the calls easier. Do

786
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: you think that's one of the reasons why the offense

787
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: struggled a little bit is because the environment they were in,

788
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: you know, the noise factor, dak Out being able to

789
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 3: probably change calls at the line of scrimmage as much

790
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: as he can when it's not quite as loud or

791
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: do you think it was just they're better, They're better

792
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: the defensive line.

793
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 7: Just that.

794
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna I'm not going to discredit all

795
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: of that. There is something to be said when you

796
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: have to go on the road and deal with the environment,

797
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: deal with the crowd, noise and so on and so forth,

798
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: that is that does play a factor. They were better, Yeah, because.

799
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: One of the things he's done really well this year

800
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: is recognizing defenses, changing the call.

801
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 4: They were better up front.

802
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 7: But but.

803
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: We said, we've been saying it for what now this

804
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: eighth week coming up, ninighth.

805
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 4: Week, eighth Golly, this season's going by so fast?

806
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: How many how many perfect games? Right, let's just acts

807
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 1: right now. How many perfect games you think that got left?

808
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: I mean for this season, because that's what it's gonna

809
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: take nine games, So he's gonna have to play six

810
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: perfect nine times.

811
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: That ain't happening. So what I'm saying, he's gonna have

812
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: two or three, He's gonna lay two or three more eggs.

813
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: Okay, that answers the question, right.

814
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I mean, he's not gonna get to

815
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: forty two or three more games, you might get to

816
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: thirty two.

817
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, you know you can stretch it, you can

818
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: give hope, you can do whatever you want. But these

819
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: these guys and until we run that ball a little

820
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 1: bit more effectively, because that that is the light. It's

821
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: two things. That's saving our offensive line when we can

822
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: run the ball just effectively, just enough. And if Dak

823
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: stay in his present state, if we can get that

824
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: right there, then you got a chance. But if for

825
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: some reason we decide that we can't run the ball

826
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: at all, it's gonna be a different game. Every time.

827
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 3: They haven't scored over this is the good news. They

828
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 3: haven't scored over twenty seven points all year, But Jesse,

829
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: you gotta saying they've only done that twice. So if

830
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: we can get to thirty this week, we might be okay.

831
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: How do y'all feel? Last thing before we go. It's

832
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: only Wednesday. You're entitled to change your mind two or

833
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: three more times before Friday. How do you feel the

834
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: Cowboys chances are this week against this team? Oh, the

835
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: Cowboys win this game.

836
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys should win this.

837
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: How you feel?

838
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 5: Partly because they're at home?

839
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: I just want to see how disciplined our I don't know, brother,

840
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: because I don't know how discipline our offensive line is.

841
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: I just we got to play a clean game. And

842
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: I just don't see us playing a clean game. You know, no,

843
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, no offsize, no, you know, I don't see

844
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: a clean game, man.

845
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 3: All right, So a quarter of a point as a Wednesday,

846
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: get that get to a point by Friday.

847
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: I think they should win this game. But Kyler Murray

848
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: will be coming back, will be coming back to AT

849
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 4: and T Stadium.

850
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: Hasn't lost the game.

851
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 4: There hasn't the offensively. I haven't watched them on tape

852
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: it I've seen some of their games and what some

853
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 4: of the things that will give us issues, they'll happen.

854
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: Trey McBride, Marvin Harrison, Zay Jones.

855
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: You just can't. You just can't keep lying in. You

856
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: can't just keep lining up just guys in your secondary

857
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: were lining up weekend and week out, just guys. Buddah

858
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: Baker has been an All Pro, Thompson has played close

859
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: to that level. And when they're in two deep safeties

860
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: what gets me? When I see them in two deep

861
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: they can be as far back as twin twenty five yards. Okay,

862
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: why don't I guy, Why do I guys be up

863
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: to fifteen? Why when I can see all prod to

864
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: potential all pro players back twenty five, what make our

865
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: guys think they can come up to fifteen and twelve?

866
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: I don't get it.

867
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Remember that route where Diggs fell,

868
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: They ran that same route against this last sea they

869
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: played Green Bay, they ran that same route.

870
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: We know what that dude did.

871
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: When that dude the option out there, he stood out there,

872
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: he fundled him outside and turned and just ran and

873
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Speaker 1: was even right with and just running. And the quarterback

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Speaker 1: through the ball, he just rapped it and tapped it down.

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Speaker 1: That was the same thing they asked Diggs to do.

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Speaker 1: But he wanted to come up here and be mister

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Speaker 1: fancy and he failed. And then next week, well, ween,

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Speaker 1: I'm an old man man. I'm a man's man. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all we got you, all right, I'm a man's man.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good stuff fellas tomorrow Cowboys Defenseman, Cardinals offense, same time,

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Speaker 3: same place. Chris keeping us over the air, Josh, thanks

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Speaker 3: for keeping the company. Be back tomorrow, hang up with

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Speaker 3: the boys.

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