1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: I didn't see it, dandas I can't go on corsel 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: like this. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Hello Renee, Hello Kate, when we're back. We're back, but 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: part Dick. We had an incredible interview with Kim Cloisters. 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: It was so long on the roof of the All 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: England Lawn Tennis Center Media Center that. 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: We decided to trap the episode in two. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: I mean, we have so much to talk about with her, 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: and she had so much to tell us, and we 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 3: just couldn't get enough, and we thought you guys could 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: not have. 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: Possibly had enough. 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: She talks about everything from her speech at the Strain 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: open to being the reason why she. 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Was called Asie Kim dressing a fan in a skirt. 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, guess what which I was a part of? 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: You were on the court. I'd had a pems on 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: the court. That's one spoiler alert. 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: We might or might not have made a pact to 20 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: get matching tattoos. 21 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing it, I'll do it, She's doing it. 22 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: Well, we're doing it. 23 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: Here's part two. 24 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 5: If you haven't re brought one, go back listen to that. 25 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: First, then come back. 26 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. 27 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Here's Kimster's party. 28 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: What was I like living in the States for you, 29 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: did you like it? I mean, I don't have to 30 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: feel like officially lived in the States yet you haven't. No, 31 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: I trained, and I would. 32 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: You know, we have a home in New Jersey, and 33 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 4: obviously my husband's my husband is American and we we 34 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 4: it's his family's all there. 35 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: They try to come and visit us when they can. 36 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: His brothers were just over and his. 37 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 4: Parents, you know, his mom helps a lot, like when 38 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 4: I've had you know, either Jada or Blake, Like she's 39 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 4: come over and stayed for a month, sometimes two months. 40 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: To it to help out. 41 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: And so I've gotten a lot of help from her. 42 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 4: But yeah, for my husband still because he has his 43 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: you know, his basketball, so he doesn't get to go 44 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 4: like home, let's say, for about ten months out of 45 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: the year, and then so usually in the summer break 46 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: we try to spend. 47 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I would rather be in Belgium. I think 48 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: we like being in Belgium. 49 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: We feel like after this, you know, when we come home, 50 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 4: or when we're about to leave, or when we've been 51 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: in America for four or five weeks and we're ready 52 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: to go home again, back to Belgium, because I think 53 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: we have our routine life, and when we go to 54 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: the States. Now, Jada thinks Jada wants to live in 55 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: America because she thinks it's always sunny because we're always 56 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: there in the summer. 57 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: She has no school. She gets to like spend time 58 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: with all her cousins. 59 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: And stay up plaid, stay up plate, and she does 60 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: you know, she does surf camp. She goes to like parties, 61 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 4: and and we have a lot of people and friends 62 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: come over from Brian from college back when he was 63 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: you know, playing basketball, and they come visit us. 64 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: So there's always something to do. 65 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: And we're in Belgium, you know, everything is a little 66 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: bit more strict and organized. 67 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: And school, she has school, So it will be an 68 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: adjustment if we ever decide to move. Would would you 69 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: would you move? Yeah? I mean, I don't mind. 70 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: I don't feel I know, I know, but I do 71 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: feel like because we have that European base of our 72 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: European lifestyle that I think it I would always keep 73 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: that even if I would. 74 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Live in America. I think America. 75 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: Living in America, I think is very convenient. Politics in 76 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: America aren't in Belgium. Aren't gray either does in every 77 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: country there's something or somebody. 78 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: That you're you know, maybe disgusted by. 79 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 5: But yeah, you guys had French and Flemish. 80 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, of course there's always something you know that's 81 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: not how it should be. But but we tried to 82 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 4: do what how we think it works for us. That's great, 83 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: and that would be the same wherever we live. Of course, 84 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 4: I've always said I would love to live in Australia. 85 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: Well they've adopted you. Yeah, but even before that I 86 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. No, never sure they would if you asked. 87 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Maybe we'll get to work. Yeah, 88 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: but New Jersey is a very different place. I like it. 89 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: I mean there were Belgian tennis plays, American tennis players 90 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: like Marty Fish and like they were like, so where is. 91 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Your husband from? 92 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 4: Or they remember him from when he was playing college basketball, 93 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: and and yeah, New Jersey is like oh, they felt 94 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: like sorry for me. 95 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like, you know, where am I 96 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: going to end up here? And then where is it? 97 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 4: It's in Belmar, It's at this beach on the beach, 98 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: Like we literally lived like one hundred meters from the beach. 99 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: I don't know, yeah, close by, so. 100 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Easy lifestyle. That's actually pretty good. It's very relaxed, and 101 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: we still get to go to the city and then 102 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: when we feel like doing something, you know more likely No, no, no. 103 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: No, not at it's the first let's say, forty minutes 104 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: out of the airport are horrible, and then all of 105 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: a sudden, there's like this green patch and then you're 106 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: it's a different world. Yes, I heard my thumb. I 107 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: was playing basketball with our daughter. 108 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: Oh you play, I try, I try. I enjoy it. 109 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: I've always liked to do different. 110 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: Things, even as workouts or when I was, you know, 111 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 4: training for tennis. I always wanted a lot of variety 112 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: in my workouts. I can whatever we found. 113 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: Ye, I wasn't. 114 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: I didn't enjoy like running for an hour, and I 115 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: always trying to put variety in it. And even now, 116 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: like we tried to work out, like we put a 117 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: little basketball in the backyard, and and my husband and 118 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 4: I like good night when the kids are asleep, like 119 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: should yeah one on one, or like he rebounds and 120 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 4: I have to try and make fifty shots like stuff 121 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 4: like that. Like yeah, like little things like to just 122 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 4: kind of get a little sweat in. 123 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: I guess no, totally. I also think there's nothing. There's 124 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: nothing like playing. 125 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 5: A new sport and learning it, Yeah, to show you 126 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 5: a little bit about who you are, because. 127 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: I I sit on the sideline a lot, like in basketball, 128 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: I go Throse games. I actually enjoy like like driving 129 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: up with him and watching a practice and kind of 130 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 4: seeing I enjoy like seeing the mental side of different 131 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: sports and seeing how professional the guys are or you know, 132 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: like things like that. 133 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: I really enjoy it. 134 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: And and and not to tell him or just more 135 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: for myself to see the differences and everything. And yeah, yes, 136 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: but then I want to try it, and I want 137 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 4: to I don't know, see, you know, how far is. 138 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: That three point line? I've been like, good, Yeah, I'm okay. 139 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's not nothing. It doesn't come natural. 140 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, but if I'm okay, I mean it's soccer, Sam football, football. 141 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 6: I feel more comfortable, of course, because I know all 142 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 6: the football, I'm sure. Yeah, I feel more comfort because 143 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 6: I've played my dad, you know. I yeah, yeah, I 144 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 6: love I love football. Yeah, it's my my passion is 145 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 6: in football. 146 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 147 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: I rent this little apartment here, so I had some people, 148 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: like some Belgians. We had actually had a couple of 149 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 4: Belgians that we're still playing and and and so we 150 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: got some little snacks and so few people there were 151 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: seven of us, I think, but then all the emotions, yes, 152 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: because we were down there too. And then you know, 153 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 4: ended up winning at the in the last thirty seconds 154 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: of the game, but it was we were so like 155 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: believed and happy all that time, and then we had 156 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: adrenaline rushed of course, and then we went after the 157 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: dog and Fox with which. 158 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: Is like a popular pub up here. Hardly ever do 159 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: they play the. 160 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: National anthem in Belgium, but there they did, and some 161 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: of the kids, the little kids were dressed up and 162 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: they and Brian, my husband is there, and they you know, 163 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: started playing the national anthem. 164 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: And he was like, there is nobody getting up, Like 165 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: everybody stayed in their seat and listened, like was quiet. 166 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: But it's like in America, it's such a it's a 167 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: different there's a different vibe, you know, different. Yeah, Like 168 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: I get goosebumps when I hear the American, dude. I 169 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: mean especially also when I when I've been at the 170 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: US Open, and also they played the American then the 171 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: national anthem, I get goosebumps, Like before my match I'm 172 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: like ool, like it's it's because you feel how howsports 173 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: and in Belgium we don't, we don't have it. 174 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: I can't tell if that's a good thing or a 175 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: bad thing. 176 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, especially at the US Open, where 177 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: you feel like the stadium, I mean, let's say like 178 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 4: a US Open. Yeah, but but it's the loudest grass 179 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: slam too, Like it's hard to to quiet a New 180 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 4: York crowd at the US Open. And and then all 181 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 4: of a sudden it goes from like always like a 182 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: buzz and like like you know, you always better like 183 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: whatever potato chip something, glasses clinging, like there's always noise. Yeah, 184 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: but then when you hand the national anthem and everybody 185 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: gets up and looks, you know, at the flag and 186 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: and it's a different It's it's very. 187 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, like the energy changes within a second. 188 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 5: It must be on the court at Arthur ash Stadium. Yeah, 189 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 5: very unique as a player. 190 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's you know usually like before a final, 191 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: like it's it's it is at night as well, and 192 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: you know, so. 193 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: The whole moment is it is Yeah, it's a that's 194 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: kind of cool. It is cool. It is the Olympics, 195 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: like that. 196 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: A different I mean for me as a Belgian. I 197 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: mean I enjoyed playing the Olympics, but again you don't 198 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: have that same. 199 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, feeling of patriotism. 200 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Do you think that's a Belgian there or 201 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 7: I think so, Yeah, I think it's a Belgian thing. 202 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 203 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: I think we're very. 204 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: I'm not saying individual, but like also like with our 205 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 4: feet on the ground kind of like like clear minded, 206 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: like we don't you. 207 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 7: Don't get swept up in emotional No, not a lot 208 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 7: like that. No, no, no, well. 209 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 5: That was what it was. So I was always so 210 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 5: interesting to me about Justine because in America a lot 211 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 5: of us sort. 212 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: Of like thought of her as French just because obviously 213 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: she's French speaking in the French part of the country. 214 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 5: And you have been adopted and it's partly maybe because 215 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 5: you married an American, but you've been adopted by these 216 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 5: English speaking countries because you feel maybe more like us. 217 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. 218 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: And I remember when I was a little girl, or 219 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 4: you know, when I was eleven, twelve, thirteen years old, 220 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: going to the States for the first time. To me, 221 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: it was like like literally a dream come true, like whatever, 222 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: like watching TV shows, to music, to the convenience of 223 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 4: going to you know, I come from a small small 224 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 4: town and breathe and a small city and a small 225 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 4: town near near that city, and I I admired you know, 226 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: I watched tennis on TV, I saw shows, and but 227 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 4: then when I was actually in the States and I 228 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 4: was able to experience it, you know, without my parents, 229 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: it was like my own adventure, you know. And yeah, 230 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: it was really cool and I enjoyed. You know, we 231 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 4: don't have morning TV shows or or you know, yeah, 232 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 4: late night or whatever. 233 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 5: I think if I may be so, well, I think 234 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 5: you're an extrovert, and you felt like you feel energized 235 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 5: by that, by the expansiveness, by the big possibilities. 236 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: Is that I thought, Yeah, is that a good statement? Yeah, yeah, maybe. 237 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: But I also enjoyed. 238 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: What I loved seeing was how open people were able 239 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: to talk about whatever. 240 00:10:59,200 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I mean. 241 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I like, I loved it. I loved seeing 242 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: in belgiumate stuff. 243 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: Very We're a very sarcastic, very sarcastic crowd. 244 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 7: Really oh yeah, yeah, like like our humor is sarcasm 245 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 7: and you always tell what somebody means, what they say 246 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 7: or says what they mean or is it. 247 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: Always sort of questionable. I mean, you know, I'm sure 248 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: you can tell. Yeah, there's people who you know. 249 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: I have friends who I know there who have a 250 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 4: very sarcastic sense of humor. But it's always yeah, I 251 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: don't know. It's a different type of different than the States. 252 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: I'm to me, not one is better than the others, 253 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: but I feel more a big I'll give you an 254 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: example for me, Like when I go running in the 255 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: States in the morning, when the sun comes up, it 256 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: can be six am or whatever, five thirty I go running. 257 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Out of the let's say thirty. 258 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: People you cross, twenty five of them will say good morning, 259 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 4: which in the States is like a normal thing. That 260 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: really surprised me in the beginning because in Belgium it's 261 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: not like that. It's more to their own like like 262 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: like they don't like the yeah, like I don't know, 263 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 4: to go into somebody else's space or you know. 264 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: And it's not on purpose, it's not like they're trying 265 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: to be mean. No, it's just different. And well the 266 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: Australians are very much the same way now. Yeah, yeah, 267 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: so you find more coming around. 268 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: I like that, Yeah, I like because I like to 269 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: by just a simple little hello or whatever you know, 270 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 4: can can Yeah, it makes somebody can give you a 271 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: little spark, It gives you energy. 272 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it sounds like and maybe that's what is 273 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: that what. 274 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 5: It feels like when you're at the academy, like when 275 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 5: you're around all these other people they're playing you know 276 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 5: it is that a natural thing for you to do it. 277 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: I wanted to give back. I wanted to give back 278 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: from sports where you know that that has given me 279 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 4: so much. 280 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: Your family, somebody. This has been the diffin Also. 281 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: It can also be draining because it's it's also a 282 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 4: business in a way, and and people, which I'm not 283 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 4: good at, but people always it's you only hear a 284 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: lot of times, you only hear the complaints, you know, 285 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 4: when this person or this. 286 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: Like they want something, they want something. So it says 287 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: you have to find a good balance between and I have. 288 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 4: You know, my coach who was my longest coach, Carl, 289 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 4: he's the director of my academy. So he is kind 290 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: of the filter, you know, he gets everything and then 291 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 4: we talk and have meetings and he filters kind of 292 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: what I need to No, I'm not and but do. 293 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: You get energy from it? Like are you sort of 294 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: like is it something I do? 295 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 4: I do? 296 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: There's I mean there's. 297 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: Moments where where it drains energy as well, but but 298 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 4: overall it yeah, I get energy from. 299 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: It as he Kim, how did that come about? The 300 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: tell people that didn't say the speech? 301 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 3: And did you ever think about that before you actually 302 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: about my at all? 303 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: Because I'm just saying it's my superstition, is I don't 304 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: think anyway? I was named Ozzie Kim because my first 305 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 4: boyfriend was an Australian danniswear. 306 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: They'd lead to it, and hey, well hold on the 307 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 3: second time out, not only was it her first boyfriend, 308 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: but she was engaged to him. And second of all, 309 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: I still have somewhere in the archives of my world 310 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: an invitation to the wedding, I know, and it was 311 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: from Kim, not not. 312 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,479 Speaker 1: From Layton, which is even funnier. Yeah, it's somewhere. 313 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: Somewhere Belgian Adelaide, in Adelaide. 314 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: So anyway, that didn't happen. No, it didn't happen. 315 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: But even when I was with Leyton, I always felt, 316 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 4: you know, I traveled through a lot of the Davis 317 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: Cup tires and I would sit with the fanatics and. 318 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: I would know them, and I would I would I. 319 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: Love that people know that. Yeah, the openness you know that, 320 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: the yeah that that lifestyle, the culture. 321 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: Sure, you know. 322 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: So anyway, so years went on and we did. I 323 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: didn't get married to him, but then I would still 324 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: when I would go back to the Australian open people 325 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: would still call me Aussie Kim in the pat in 326 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: the way interviews and people on the street like good 327 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: day Ausie Kim, like they would they kind. 328 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 7: Of like. 329 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: Anyway, there's actually still people nowadays that asked Brian, oh, yeah, 330 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: where are you from in Australia. 331 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm like no, that was so He's like, oh, here 332 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: we go. 333 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 5: So then, well, I asked her earlier, if Australia had 334 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 5: offered her citizenship, I would have given it to him, 335 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 5: That's what I said. 336 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: She tried to recruit of her fed Cup, but she 337 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: she wouldn't give her Belgium to anyway. So go on, 338 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: So you win, So you feel the pressure in Australia 339 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: a little bit? Did you feel a little bit of 340 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: the pressure to win there? 341 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: If I wanted to win another I felt pressure to 342 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: win another Grand Slam. 343 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 4: Besides my three my USO. First, when you win your 344 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: first one, you're so happy and you feel like relief. 345 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: But then you're like, I need to win another one 346 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: because I don't want to be the person that has 347 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 4: only one one friend. 348 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: No seriously, other people that never won one. But that's 349 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: how I keep like, I know, you don't want it 350 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: to seem like a flute. 351 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: The Australian Open was one where, of course, you know, 352 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 4: if you can win wimble then that's also great, you know, 353 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: But the Australian Open to me for my game, I 354 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: felt like I was more comfortable on another hardcore which 355 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: was you know, in Melbourne. And so yeah, I got 356 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: closer to the and you felt the moment people, I 357 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: felt the love. 358 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean everyone wanted to like outside, even you know. 359 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: And and and then I won and I actually chipped 360 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: my tooth really badly. Just remember this the. 361 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: Night before, my day before when I played, I was 362 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: a little bit like autistic. 363 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: Like with my. 364 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah maybe I had you know you like, yeah, yeah, 365 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: I habits that only I did, you know. 366 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 4: And I always traveled with this. It's like a pen 367 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 4: from metal and don't laugh, I am, but it really 368 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: vibes or like produces the energy in the water, so 369 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: I always swirl like ten things, so I would do 370 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 4: it in bottled water like but then it fell in 371 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 4: the pen fell in the water, so I'm trying to 372 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: get it out by drink. I can't reach it with 373 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 4: my fingers, so I try to like drink it and 374 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 4: the metal pen like like. 375 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: My tooth, and it ships my whole front tooth this 376 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: day before. 377 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: The final no, no, before the to so I'm like, 378 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 4: I'm cold that the physios from the WTA. I'm like, 379 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 4: I need to see a dentist. I can't go on 380 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: core like this, like like dumb and dumber, you know, 381 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: dumb and dumber. 382 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: I can't go on cored this. So I get this 383 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: guy who a fan and and he's like yeah, and 384 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: you know, I'm more than happy to help. Yeah, well 385 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: he's a dentist to be a fan. He's like, I 386 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: would love to, you know, getting autographs. And it was like, 387 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: by the way, me some pictures. 388 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: And no, no, no no, I called, like the w 389 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 4: DA called him and and you know it wasn't the 390 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: lady trying to be nice and saying that he was 391 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: a fan. 392 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: But he helped out. You get you get my tooth fixed. 393 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 4: Happy, you know, I win my the next day and 394 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: get to the final. And the thing was, I actually 395 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: told him that I'll I'm going I'll say something about 396 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 4: you if I win, you know, or he's mentioned something 397 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 4: like that was just give me a shout out, like 398 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 4: he didn't want me to pay him, and he said, 399 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 4: just give me a shout out when you win. 400 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, deal, of course, like if I win, great, 401 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: I'll say whatever you want to hear. And so then 402 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: you're so married. 403 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 4: Right. 404 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 8: So so. 405 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 4: When I was standing there and I get the microphone 406 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: handed over to me, I thinking, oh my god, I 407 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 4: have to thank my the dentist, and actually I forgot 408 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 4: his last name, like so I said, that's the first 409 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 4: I wanted to get it over and done with, because 410 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 4: I mean it must have sounded like pretty ridiculous, you know. 411 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 1: I did that. And yeah, and then at the end, 412 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, now I feel like, you know, 413 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: I told him, I said. 414 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 4: Now I really feel like you guys can call me 415 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 4: Oussie Kim because you know, I was holding the trophy. 416 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: Definitely a curse. It was a beautiful story. I was 417 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: a great speek. 418 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 5: We will find a speech and I will put it 419 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 5: in the audio if that's okay. Now you've shouted out 420 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 5: this dentist. 421 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: It was a great speech, thankfully, you know, and you 422 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: beat Lena, who of course ended up being sort of 423 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: like the next heir. 424 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: Apparent to the Australian public wanting to win. 425 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: Because I really feel like, you know, the Australian public 426 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: in particular, I think everywhere but Australia really gravitates to 427 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 3: people that. 428 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: Have that personality. It's fun and the easy going. 429 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 3: And Lena, obviously we all know, had those postmatch interviews 430 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: of giving Dennis her husband hell and so they sort 431 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: of once you had won, then it's like then she 432 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: ended up winning a couple of years later, and everyone 433 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: really pushed her to win. 434 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: But when Kim won, there was there was a lot 435 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: of very happy people. 436 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 9: And I was caught side for the match for Channel seven, 437 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 9: and Kim remember watching looking at you sometimes, like when 438 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 9: you were sitting. 439 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: Right in front of me. 440 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 10: Literally I was imagine her doing her thing. I've got 441 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 10: something to look at her like. She's like, yeah, yeah, 442 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 10: I mean I don't want to be biased. 443 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 3: Obviously, no, my friends with everyone, but Kim and I 444 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: go back a long way and so there were times 445 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: that she would I mean literally we are exactly across 446 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: from each other on the court, and there were times 447 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: that she would look at me and I'd sort of 448 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: just look at it like almost like her mum, like Gerrikay, 449 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: you're doing keep going, keep going, you know, and you 450 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: know any player. I've done it with a lot of players. 451 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: It's literally where my seat is is directly opposite. And 452 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: I remember that night, and I remember thinking when she 453 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: won and I got to interview her after the match, the. 454 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: First person to interview it, and yeah, they're great moments 455 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: that you share with. 456 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: Really, we're traveling circus and Kim is definitely one of 457 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: those people you loved. 458 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 5: To see when well, I was telling her, I feel 459 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 5: like that's why so many countries have adopted her, because 460 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 5: Americans consider her one of our own. 461 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: And different than America, than in Australia, than in Australia. Yeah, yeah, 462 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. 463 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: I think we just took such a love to Kim 464 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: immediately and vice versa her. 465 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: That's the thing I talked about, that the sarcasm, that humor, 466 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 4: that yeah, Australians. 467 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: Have that too. 468 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so it's like some Americans don't have 469 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 3: the same humor as Australians because you can literally say 470 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: I went to an event recently and I walked by 471 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: a girl and it was outside I've told you this story, 472 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: and it was sunny and it was beautiful, and I 473 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: was with my Aussie friend Joe, and I said, ah, really, 474 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: you know average day to day right, aha. 475 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: Meaning it's an amazing day, isn't it right? And she goes, well, 476 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: actually it's not bad. And I was like, oh my god. 477 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: She did not get like, there's not that's Kim would 478 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: get it if I said, really, crap, isn't it. 479 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 5: But you know it's a different Americans don't take the piss, 480 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 5: that's right, and you we can't handle the piss. 481 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: The alcohol is a different story. I don't think with 482 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: my husband and I like, I give it. I tease 483 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 4: him so much, like all the time, all the time, 484 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 4: and he's like, are you serious? Are you serious? 485 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, don't get all sensitive on me now, like 486 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: I'm only joking. 487 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 11: One of the kids, which kids have your personality and 488 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 11: his personality, Jada is my personality wants to tease and 489 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 11: and all the time, like drops from your trade. 490 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: Jack is sensitive sensitive, We'll have the big like elephant tears. 491 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 4: If I even make like make him like want to 492 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 4: tease him a little bit, it starts and the lip 493 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: goes down, and I'm like, that's okay, Like Mom is 494 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: only joking, you know, But I'm like, tough enough, come. 495 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: On, tough enough. What's for? Are they going to play 496 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: Jada basketball? For sure? 497 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: Did you tell me that we're supposed to play Ladies 498 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 3: Invitational here at Wimbledon and you've just told me you 499 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 3: have a thumb injury due to playing basketball. 500 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: I think it's getting better. We talked about it. Don't 501 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: expect me to take on any ground strokes over you. 502 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: What side would you like to play on? Forehand or 503 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: back end? 504 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 3: Well, clearly, Skim, I know your backhand is like as 505 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: good as any back end we've ever. 506 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Seen in the history of the game. But I'm pretty 507 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: sure that your forehand is fifty billion times better than 508 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: my forehand. 509 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 3: So I think it's best I played the backhand side 510 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: because I know that I can still hit a late forehand, 511 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: but it hit an early forehand. 512 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: Might be a little difficult for me. So let's let 513 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: me play in the backhand. Really, okay, you know, what 514 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: whatever you. 515 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: Want to be, what you want to play on you 516 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: figure it out. The only thing I have just have 517 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: to see you with my thumb. If I can hit 518 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 4: a car beforehand. 519 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: Well I have to figure out if my neck. I mean, 520 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: we're just a disaster. Let me ask a question, because 521 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: I know Lena is actually playing Legends. I can't Yes, 522 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: does that seem because so recently retire I walked over 523 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: to this. Wait a second, you have to wait a second. 524 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: You just asked if Lena is it's okay for her 525 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: to play. 526 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: Martina Hingis was playing when she was like twenty seven 527 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: in the Ladies Invitational and then came back like two 528 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: years later in one Wimbledon doubles again, So there's no 529 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: criteria really here at all. 530 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: No, everybody's really good. 531 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 5: I watched the ship out of the Lady's Legends at 532 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 5: the front Shopen. I watched Nevradolova play with Marian Bertoley. 533 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: Marion Bertoley was hitting like one hundred and fifty mile 534 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 5: an hour or two hundred four hens at Rancha suncheest 535 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 5: Is in the face. 536 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: It was intense. So he played him the day before 537 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: and summer Bartley was a lot like yeah, some are 538 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: a little more intense than others. It was watching the 539 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's hard. 540 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: I find it hard in legends to find like you 541 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 4: have to find a balance between fun. Yeah, fun, because 542 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 4: there's there's a different generation too of players who don't. 543 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: Hit hard at all. 544 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: You know. 545 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 4: I still feel like if I, you know, kind of 546 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: put my body weight into the pool, I can create 547 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: some like face, you know, and I've yeah, you have 548 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 4: to find a ba there. 549 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: And Kim can hit one hundred mile an hour winner 550 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: at any time, anywhere, any place she wants. 551 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: But what's the point. You want to have a bit 552 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: of fun, although it does get a little bit too competitive. 553 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: I could also come in and hit a volley at 554 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: someone's face if I really want to. But yeah, but 555 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't really know that's the thing. 556 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: But I also don't have I think that natural talent 557 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: of kind of you know, really goofer racket and make 558 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: it look like, oh, we're playing like the men. 559 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Do you know they do these tricks? And which is 560 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: why she leaves that to me, because that's all I've 561 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: got now between its exactly. 562 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 4: So I do have to, like, if I look like 563 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 4: I'm not putting the effort in or don't like, let 564 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 4: my arm go through a swing, it through the through 565 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: the ball. 566 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: Then I actually don't. 567 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 568 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: Did you guys request each other? How do you get 569 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: paired up? No, we don't request each other. I mean, 570 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: why would I used to request playing with me when 571 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: we're on tour. I wish we'd played together one time. 572 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: I've been so good because we would have been great 573 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: to Although, you know, I can honestly say that I 574 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: never lost a Kim. 575 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: That's true, but I never got annoying to play against. 576 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: Ever lost to Kim. 577 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: But I never played her in singles. She hated playing 578 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 3: mean doubles. But I loved playing Kim. 579 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: We had good fun together. Yeah. 580 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 4: Actually I didn't hate playing against you. It's like just 581 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: it's hard, you know, which is good? 582 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: Oh? Thanks? 583 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 3: I played Kim actually in my very first Wimbledon final 584 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: here that I won was against Kim. 585 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: But she was a baby. She was what were you 586 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen? 587 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Sugia and Kim and was me and Lisa 588 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: Raymond and yeah, so Kim was a baby then. 589 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I played against Kim Layton in mix mixed doubles. 590 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: Was that here French Open? That was our first mixed 591 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: doubles that. 592 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: We play and Todd I believe played you and Layton 593 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: or was it Daniel Nessa I don't remember him. 594 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 4: My first mixed doubles match, I had no idea what 595 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 4: to expect to lead and I were like, you know, 596 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 4: I really love and we wanted we wanted to play 597 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 4: mixed doubles together. And the first game he tries to love. 598 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 4: I think it was a Danish I don't remember who 599 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: it was or some Scandinavian. 600 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he loves but he loves too short. 601 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 4: And the guy hits smashes straight at me like it 602 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 4: hits my stomach, like straight, full out like and I'm 603 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 4: like oh, and. 604 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: She's like I'm sorry. I'm like, we're done. 605 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 4: So I guess the guys go because I was wondering, 606 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 4: like DoD the guys, you know, go full loud. 607 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: And so that was my answer right there. You got 608 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: pegged in the stomach immediately with a by your boyfriend. Yeah, 609 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: and that was the relationship. No, No, No, that was 610 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: just the start. Was it weird playing with somebody that 611 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: you were in It was so much fun. It's weird 612 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: that you guys could play together too. 613 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 7: No, not me. 614 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: I didn't play with Kim. We went in love. I 615 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: love her, but we're not. 616 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love you, but you both have played with 617 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 5: your significant others on the professional tennis court. 618 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: I thought it was fun. Did you have I always laughed. 619 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 3: Do you enjoy like looking down the other end thinking 620 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: that Lisa and I would be fighting or something? 621 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean there were times where I was like, oh, 622 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: poor Lisa. Rude, that's our promo right there. 623 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: If there was one match, Kim cloisters that you could 624 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 3: take back way. 625 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: Again, which was Vonaeva twenty eleven quarterfinal, I think here 626 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: at one more than yeah, I was up a set 627 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: and just kind of lost my and I felt, I think, 628 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: I'm not really I'm not good at remembering draws and 629 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: stuff like that, but. 630 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: I think pir on Kova would be the next. I 631 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: think she beat Venus or something on the quarters, and 632 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: that was. 633 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 4: Obviously the match before our match, and so it was 634 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: kind of like, I think Pironkova in the semi final. 635 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: Then, you know, it was like a good a good draw, I. 636 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: Guess, you know, and and I just yeah, kind of 637 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 4: stopped playing, you know. So that's a match that I 638 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: wished a few times already. 639 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: That I could do play that. 640 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 5: Over again, because theoretically you would have been in the finals, 641 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 5: which you've never played. 642 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: Maybe you still have to play for that. There was 643 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 4: a big chance at Wimbledon. I've lost my semi finals, 644 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 4: I think, to Venus and to Lindsay my two semi finals. 645 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: So they were too good. Yeah, too good. They played 646 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: too good. I mean, I mean Venus and Lindsay are 647 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: two are the greatest great players on gross. So that's 648 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: the one. Yeah, that's the one where I feel like 649 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: and the other ones. I mean I've lost grandson finals, 650 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, the one against Jennifer Capriati and at the 651 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: French and Choba. But I was too young to win. 652 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: I know, like, without a doubt, I was too young 653 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: to win and to kind of be ready for that. 654 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 5: When you say you were too young to win, what 655 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 5: does that mean? Like, where is your mind when you're 656 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 5: ten years old than Yeah? 657 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: Why is that different for you and not for Hindus 658 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: or Serena or Stephie. 659 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: Because of the impact of how your life changed. It 660 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 4: already changed big time, but I wasn't ready to take 661 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 4: on that pressure yet. 662 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Is that what changed when you had a kid? Because 663 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: your perspective changed. 664 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 4: I was able to just focus on tennis when when, 665 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: and not all the other stuff. The other stuff wasn't 666 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 4: important anymore. 667 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 7: You know. 668 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: When I was younger, I who I felt overwhelmed when 669 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: the attention. Still I still do, but I was overwhelmed 670 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 4: by the the money, expect the expectations. Yeah, yeah, that's 671 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 4: not why I didn't sign up for that when I 672 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 4: you signed up to have fun in place. I want 673 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: to play tennis and to go all out and to work, 674 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: you know that, Like my passion is still. I still 675 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 4: feel as much passion for tennis as I did when 676 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 4: I was younger. If I can go, if we go play, 677 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 4: it's my playground, like it's my tennis was my psychologist, 678 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: it was my fun. 679 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: It was my like still passion, you know. 680 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 3: And yeah it's but so it changed when you felt 681 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: like Grand Slam is going to change my it's going 682 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: to change my joy to being a job work expectation. 683 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 4: Is that because all the other stuff that gets added 684 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 4: onto your schedule that has nothing to do with tennis anymore. 685 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for It's not like I was not 686 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: for the tennis part of it, but it was all 687 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: the other. 688 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: Stuff, the responsibilities, the attention, appearance, appearances, like all that. 689 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: Stuff, Like I, so, do you understand when somebody wins 690 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: one Grand Slam and then struggles for a year or 691 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: two like you've seen you understand why, of course, and 692 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: how difficult it is, because it's a process. I honestly, 693 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: as as painful as it was to lose my Grand. 694 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: Slam finals, the one against Jennifer wasn't as painful because 695 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: it was still a great result. 696 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: When I was a young girl, I played some of 697 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: my best tennis and it was huge and Jennifer was 698 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: a superstar. 699 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 4: But then my next match is when I lost to 700 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 4: Justine and whatever I think, the three next finals devastating, devastating, 701 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: They hurt, But what hurt the most was that I 702 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: was overwhelmed already. 703 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: Before the match. 704 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: I didn't know how to handle the situation playing another Belgian, 705 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 4: playing in a. 706 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: Grand Slam final. 707 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 4: It's all those little things together because I played Justine 708 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 4: many times before, you know, and beaten her. And there 709 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: are semi finals of the French Open, which was also 710 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: a big occasion. But I was still capable of playing 711 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: some of my best tennis, just not in the match. 712 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: Like the thought of winning a Grand Slam to. 713 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: Me was too overwhelming because it was like as a 714 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: little girl, I. 715 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: Don't you don't realize winning a Slam is one thing, 716 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: but everything that comes along with it you're not taught 717 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: how to deal with. 718 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: Do you talk to a players that you know on 719 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: the tour of the last couple of years that have 720 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: had that expectator? Have you ever asked you how did 721 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: you handle this? 722 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 7: Kim? 723 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: I've had a few players actually, yeah, you know, like, no, 724 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: that's fine. 725 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: I mean Simona Hallep, you know, situation, Caroline, was Niyaki, 726 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 4: you know how how. 727 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: To handle after before those conversations. 728 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: So you've had You've had conversations with was Niyaki Halub 729 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: about how to win a slam and then how to 730 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: deal with it after it. 731 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: More more afterwards. 732 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 4: I think you know when when Simona lost the French 733 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 4: Open last year, you know, so when you get so 734 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: close and you see the reason why they lost, although 735 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 4: she was the much better player, you know, she just 736 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: kind of froze and her arm got tight, and I 737 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 4: could relate to. 738 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: That so clearly. 739 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: But then yeah, you just you have to try and 740 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: just stick to what you're doing because everything that you're 741 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 4: doing is working well. 742 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: You know, you're getting to the finals, You're you're she 743 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: was number one in the world. She she's fit, she 744 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: she can do anything she wants. 745 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 4: But you just have to try and get yourself in 746 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 4: that position again, because you can't practice that moment. 747 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, you can't practice for that. 748 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 4: So you have to try and get yourself into a 749 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 4: position again where you're capable of doing a couple of things. 750 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: Having a chance. 751 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: I remember because I talked to you about this with 752 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: Carolina Plishkower and Singapore. Yeah, and I said, I grabbed Kim, 753 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: I literally grabbed Kim, and I said, Kim, tell Carolina something, 754 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 3: you know, And she said, that is the exact words. 755 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: She said, you know what, Sometimes you just have to 756 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: keep putting yourself in that situation. 757 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: And Halla is a perfect example, as it was Niaki, 758 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: as was you. It's rare. You know what happened to 759 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: Ostapenko last year at the French Open. 760 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 4: That's that's not normal, No, not normal, but it's rare 761 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 4: that you win your first Grand Slam. And I had 762 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 4: people tell me like, oh, I do give a Lando five? 763 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Andy Murray same thing. Yeah, So it. 764 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 4: Happens, and I really believe that if I just within myself, 765 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 4: if I look at the process that I made as 766 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 4: a tennis player but also as a human being, this 767 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 4: it had to happen like this, and I wouldn't change 768 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 4: it for anything like it had to happen. 769 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: I had to lose those matches for. 770 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 4: Me to win in a five and or not like 771 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 4: like it's because they all helped. You had points, Yes, 772 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 4: if they all help. 773 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: When you say that you had conversations with you know, 774 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: obviously that's because Renee thrust her out you and said, 775 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: Kim really smart was the end. 776 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 4: But we would talk about it sometimes we could see 777 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 4: that her you know, body language got down or nervous. 778 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: Thing is why wouldn't you Todd? Of course, And this 779 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: is why I believe, and I said this on the 780 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: podcast with Todd. 781 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: You will see hopefully more women start to bring the 782 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 3: Kim pisons that justin Anna and who you know Switzerlina 783 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 3: brought in the last couple of years ago. Look at 784 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 3: look at look at Muga Rutho with Conchidah last year. 785 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: There is nobody that can substitute Maresma. 786 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: There's no one that can you can substitute with somebody who's. 787 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 12: Been there and done it, and a female and a 788 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 12: female because the female Yeah, there's not enough of us. 789 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: It was not a lot of female coaches even in 790 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: our And I try, you know, I but I get because. 791 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 4: A family life becomes so Yeah, there's there's a tough 792 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 4: juggling and tendis too. Like you have to if you 793 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 4: want to become a coach, you have to travel, You 794 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 4: have to be away a little bit. 795 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: And I mean even for me, I've had. 796 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 4: Great offers from players, you know, who wanted to work 797 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: and who thought that maybe I had, you know, could 798 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 4: have a positive impact or change something. 799 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: In their career. 800 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 4: And and but you have to be able to travel 801 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 4: a certain amount of weeks. And and especially with me, 802 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 4: you know, with the last two you know kids, I 803 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 4: couldn't do that yet. And although there's a part of 804 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: me that really wanted to do it and take on 805 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 4: that challenge because I love the challenge of being able 806 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 4: to help. 807 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: Somebody to try and achieve a goal. And are they 808 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: absorbing it? 809 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 8: Do they do? They? 810 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 5: They do? 811 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they do this is a human being. Yeah, 812 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: because I don't I really talk out of my experience 813 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: because I really felt to me it was very clear 814 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: how it, you know, how it happened. And so if 815 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: I just explain how it went for me, then it's 816 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: up to them what they do with it. 817 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 4: But I think some there's some parts that will stick, 818 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 4: you know, into their into their head that when they 819 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 4: get through a certain situation, there's they And Simona told 820 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 4: me after the like after the match at the friend, 821 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 4: she was like like she thought about you. I didn't 822 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 4: want this. I didn't want to go forth, you know 823 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: for matches like like you yea, so things like yeah, 824 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 4: but that's really nice. Yeah, but that's it's great, you know. 825 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 4: And and because in our sport too, like it's it's 826 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 4: so individual, yeah, you know, and and players don't really 827 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 4: want to give anything away and they're not jealous. Yeah, 828 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,959 Speaker 4: why they're still playing and and jealous. And I felt 829 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 4: like I am always I mean with you, like we 830 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 4: were playing, but you would help and give advice and 831 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 4: you know, like all the time there's stuff like that, 832 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 4: and that's what I like. Like there's players who were 833 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 4: lily open to do that, and then you have the 834 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: other ones who don't trust anybody, who don't want to 835 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 4: take or think you're lying, you know, like there's always 836 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 4: the different personalities. 837 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: But I corner her and tell her listen, just kidding, no, 838 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: But I mean I've been coached by herself. She's like 839 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: your back. But I think passion. I think it's about passion. 840 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 5: And I think what I was trying to say earlier 841 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 5: by complimenting you is about athletic player or joy as 842 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 5: player is you're playing for the. 843 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: Sport of it. 844 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 5: And if you're playing for the real sport of it 845 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 5: because you want the best possible tennis to be happening, 846 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 5: then you can be generous. 847 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 4: I can honestly say it can be whenever I played 848 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: for money. Yeah, I believe I've never played for money. 849 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 4: You can tell if I if I even felt like 850 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 4: the pressure of oh if I win this match, I 851 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 4: can become hold on, hold on. 852 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: Hold on, because I remember having a conversation with you 853 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: at the Stranda. 854 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 3: I've been a couple of years ago when you played 855 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: your last one I think it was, and you said, oh, 856 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 3: stuvesy mate, I'm gonna make the semi. 857 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the quarters just to break even with 858 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: the g that I got because I was playing with 859 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: a lot of traveling with a lot of people. 860 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 4: But it's never my fire, you know, like but but 861 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 4: a lot of players don't have the choice to play 862 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 4: for money because it's it's their income. 863 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 3: Like they have to. 864 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 4: Juggle and make the pieces of the puzzle fall into 865 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 4: place like that. If it to me, if it had 866 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 4: to get to that, I don't know if I could 867 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 4: do it to me. I still feel like when I 868 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: go practice now, it feels the same as when I 869 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 4: was eight years old, practicing and going all out and 870 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: running for a ball that's two meters out and trying 871 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 4: to get to it. 872 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: Like I still do that. 873 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 4: My body can't handle it now I'll have injuries, but 874 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 4: it's that's how my mind is. If I now I 875 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 4: don't warm up, I will still hit my first smatch 876 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 4: as hard as I can. 877 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Stephie's the same. Steffie was your idol. 878 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 7: She was. 879 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to Yeah, not anymore. She's taking that rafter. 880 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: Why didn't you become a seven volume then the stay. 881 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 4: I tried to serve like him a lot of times 882 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 4: in my you know, when I practiced and we were 883 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 4: playing around. 884 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: And we are at Wimbledon. 885 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 3: One of the most watched videos of all time at 886 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 3: Wimbledon has been the fact that Kim Cleister's brought someone 887 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 3: down from the public that Chris Quinn was his name, 888 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 3: was a bit large at the time. 889 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: He's now lost weight, he's working out. His looks awesome. 890 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 3: But Kim brought him down under the court and put 891 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 3: a white skirt on him and my white top on 892 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 3: him and served to him. And if you haven't seen 893 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 3: it on YouTube, just YouTube Kim Cleister's man in skirt? 894 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: Did he return yourself? 895 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: And the joke was that the crowd kept telling Kim 896 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 3: where to serve and hit a n ace and she's 897 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 3: so bloody good still. 898 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: She literally hit two races and. 899 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 4: Then they asked me they would tell me first I 900 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 4: started to hit a niece and I was like, okay, 901 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 4: I'm going to do it. 902 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: And I hit a niece. I can do. That's worke 903 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: up over. 904 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 4: So then I look at the and again and I'm like, 905 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 4: where shall I serve? And he was like what I said, 906 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 4: where shall I serve? 907 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, this one guy yells out, 908 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: just serve to her body, and I'm like, she to 909 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: Martinez looks like what does that mean? Like, what do 910 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: you mean when you serve an ice to the body? 911 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna hit me. 912 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 7: Yeah. 913 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 4: So I was like like, excuse me, like do your body, 914 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 4: let me serve to your body like this because it 915 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 4: was a bigger target. And I was like, come on, 916 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 4: you know, and I was like and I just went 917 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 4: along and I don't know, and then I realized I'm 918 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 4: standing there and I see that he's in like a 919 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 4: blue shorts, like against every Wimbledon rule, you know, And 920 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, and. 921 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 9: I usually have like a spare skirt or whatever. She's 922 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 9: the only legend that actually brings extra clothes. But anyway, 923 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 9: I was, you know, I can't say I'm the only mother. 924 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 9: Maybe there's some problems happening on the court or something. 925 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: Anyway, so she runs to a bag. I run to 926 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: my bag and I have the skirt and I go 927 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: over to him and try to put it on him. 928 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't get it over, isn't he you said? 929 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 3: It was like putting it on, you know, my five 930 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 3: year old. I just wrinkled it up, put it over 931 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 3: his ankles and thought that's going to be it. But 932 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 3: God love him, he called it. 933 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: All the way up. 934 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. 935 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: I couldn't get it over and unless I was like 936 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: ripping it, but he did ripped it. 937 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 3: Put my shirt on, which was even smaller, and then 938 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: he did look like stuff sausage and he got the 939 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 3: serve back in the court and it was hilarious and 940 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 3: Kim was in tears, and it was on Jimmy Kimmel, 941 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 3: It was on Sports Center and the ESPN and the Safe. 942 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: It went everywhere in viral. So if you haven't seen it, 943 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: everybody out there, you've got to look at it. 944 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 3: And the greatest line from the commentator who was doing 945 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 3: the match says, yes, that's a man in a skirt 946 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 3: trying to return Kim Closer's serve at. 947 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: Drunkest you ever got after winning? You know the answer? 948 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 4: Come on, come on? 949 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was after my last US so, no, my 950 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten win. Are you working for the 951 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: Tennis channel? Ye? 952 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 4: What was it? 953 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: I was, I was working for Tennis channel. Tennis channel, 954 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,720 Speaker 1: you were working and it was my last match match, 955 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: last Grand Slam. No, but I won? No, well you came, 956 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: but I. 957 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 9: Retired you'd retired. That was actually in the second round 958 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 9: mixed doubles. Yeah, I believe, No, it was after I won. 959 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 9: What we're trying to say, Kim got drunk a lot. 960 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: It's not true at all. 961 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 4: That's why after I was drunk, because it was after 962 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 4: two or three glasses of champagne and your TV compound 963 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 4: booth wherever we were, so their feet and they're like cheers, and. 964 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm like yes, and it was I was happy. 965 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 9: I think it was after my win twenty ten. I 966 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 9: think it was that time in particular. Let me tell 967 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 9: me the story here, because you was obviously too drunk. 968 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 9: That wasn't the drunkest after a win. That was after 969 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 9: you retired. 970 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: It was Tracy Austin and me and I think I 971 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: might have been bred hyper from Tennessee. 972 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 3: It was, and we kept supplying you was champagne and 973 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 3: you kept drinking it, but you had n eaton and 974 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 3: so you got very drunk. 975 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: But after you want to slam, do you remember any 976 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 1: of those? 977 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 3: No? 978 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 2: I never. 979 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: That's a weird thing about a Grand Slam. You're tired. 980 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: You're tired. As a kid, I. 981 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 4: Pictured, or try to put myself visualized, how awesome it 982 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 4: felt to win a Grand Slam, and. 983 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: It's it's the happiest moment for me. 984 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 4: When you win is actually when you're able to go 985 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 4: see your coach, your team, your family, your people who 986 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 4: are there with you, because those are the people who 987 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 4: helped you get to that point. Like you trained the hardest, 988 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 4: you have, you know, whatever or tough situations, you went 989 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 4: through it, and and you're happy when you win. But 990 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 4: that's like that last a minute, two minutes, maybe you 991 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 4: know you're still proud, but then that that first feeling 992 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 4: is kind of gone. But then when you're able to 993 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 4: go to your your box and see your family and everybody, 994 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 4: that's that's when it becomes the most emotional. And then 995 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 4: once that's over with, you start doing media and then 996 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 4: you know, you go to your hotel room and you 997 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 4: sit there and my first year is open. I remember 998 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 4: I would buy myself in my hotel room. Brian was 999 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 4: in Belgium and my dad was in Belgium, and I 1000 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 4: sat in my hotel room and we were leaving the 1001 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,919 Speaker 4: next day. We were flying back to Belgium. So I'm 1002 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 4: sitting on the floor. I had all a mess. 1003 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: My room is a mess. 1004 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 4: I'm not very organized, so i have like all my 1005 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 4: clothes there and my dirty laundry bag, and I'm like 1006 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 4: trying to like figure out how am I going to. 1007 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 13: Pack, you know, And I'm literally sitting in between all 1008 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 13: these piles of clothes and I'm yes, and literally that 1009 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 13: I said, look at me, that's what I'm thinking. 1010 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: I leave bag and I'm like, look at me, this 1011 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: is this is this? 1012 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 4: Is it? 1013 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 5: Like? 1014 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: And then what is this it? 1015 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1016 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: Exactly, that's literally that's how I got. And I was like, 1017 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: and then you get so tired and then you're tired 1018 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 1: and you just hit the wall. Can I tell you 1019 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: a little added story to that? 1020 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 3: When I it's nothing like winning singles, but when I 1021 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 3: won my first Australian Open and the doubles in the mix, 1022 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 3: they give you the trophy. Now they'll send it to you, right, Well, 1023 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 3: maybe they don't for the doubles, but they literally give 1024 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 3: you the trophy. 1025 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: And you remember the Bali bags, you know, the mesh 1026 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: bags and like ear you're overweight, don't put in your bags. Well, 1027 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: they gave me a couple of those from my trophies. 1028 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 5: Right. 1029 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,479 Speaker 1: So here I am by myself drive to the Lisa 1030 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: had already gone to Japan to play the next tournament. Right, 1031 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: so I was there by myself, go to. 1032 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 3: The airport with all my shit, okay, all my bags 1033 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 3: and I've got my two trophies in the mesh bags 1034 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 3: from BALLEI okay with my rackings and I go into 1035 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 3: the airport. 1036 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,879 Speaker 1: I sit down. I'm starving. I get a big mech 1037 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: from McDonald's. No excuse me. I was like Burgie King, 1038 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: sitting at Burgie King at the airport. 1039 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 3: You're flying to Tokyo for the next tournament because we 1040 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 3: don't have any time to celebrate, And I'm sitting there 1041 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 3: by myself in Melbourne airport. 1042 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 1: Isn't it having a Burgie King with my two trophies 1043 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: next to me? Going see it? 1044 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 5: This is it? 1045 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, well let me tell you. 1046 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 5: Let me let me say something, as the only person 1047 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 5: in this room who's never won a Grand Sound and 1048 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 5: never will that I am so happy for both of 1049 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 5: you guys, truly, that you have what's way more important, 1050 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 5: which is that you didn't play for money. You didn't 1051 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 5: play for a fame, you didn't play for trophies. You 1052 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 5: played because you fucking love it. Because this limit lives 1053 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 5: three blocks away from me, and I'm so much worse 1054 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 5: than she is, even though I'm decent, and she still 1055 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 5: wants to play with me. 1056 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: Come on, hey, come on, let's go play in the passion. 1057 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: That's the only she she drags me to the court. 1058 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: You're playing, it's your playground. It's fucking awesome. 1059 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 4: It's always I love it and already does the moment, 1060 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 4: the first moment when I stepped on a tennis court. 1061 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's when it's that's like the best thing 1062 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: I've ever heard. 1063 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 3: The number one word, honestly for every kid out there, 1064 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 3: every parent, every coach. 1065 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: You have to have passion for anything. 1066 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 12: Anything you do anything, if you have passion for it, 1067 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 12: you will be you will be great at it. 1068 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what if it's a sport, if 1069 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:20,760 Speaker 1: it's a business. 1070 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 3: If you have a passion for something, you will endeavor 1071 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 3: to find and find a way. 1072 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 1: And then there's. 1073 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 4: Lifestyle, like through tennis, like I've met so many people 1074 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,959 Speaker 4: who you know, you know, you learn a lot about people, 1075 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 4: you learn the different personalities and the people you kind 1076 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 4: of try to stay away from because you know there's 1077 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 4: always something they want, you know, for them. 1078 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: Like there's good people. There's really good people as well. 1079 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: And and but to me, like when I when when 1080 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: I hear people. 1081 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 4: Talk about passion, even if it's about a subject that 1082 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 4: I know absolutely nothing about, but they can you feel 1083 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 4: their passion come through. 1084 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: That's when I'm already like, you've got me. Yeah, That's 1085 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: that's all I need. And we're getting tattoos, all right, Passion, 1086 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: Let's go, we go, before we go. 1087 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 5: A fashion report from London in a British accent. 1088 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 8: Great Inks from London, Your most beloved fashion contributor Andreya 1089 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 8: Pepkevich reports for duty a heat wave has not only 1090 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 8: confused the British inhabitants, but has also caused all seats 1091 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 8: to tumble out of style, so to speak. Thus, it 1092 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 8: is not a cup of tea, dam but the choice 1093 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 8: of a glass of ice called water or a glass 1094 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 8: of my favorite pimps strawberries and cream and scorne bes 1095 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 8: Jam will keep your company for this segment. White is, 1096 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 8: in principle, always on the schedule at Wimbledon, from a 1097 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 8: much discussed collaboration between Adidas and the skateboard company Palace 1098 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,280 Speaker 8: to flowing Nike dresses with holes in the back. 1099 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: You can find it all. 1100 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 8: The Royal Box is as traditional as one would assume, 1101 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 8: and as is proposed in the formal dress code, the 1102 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 8: men wear three piece suits and tie, and the women 1103 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 8: for their most beautiful cocktail dresses in pastel colors. Do 1104 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 8: you feel frescy? Wear a head to a mainly suggested 1105 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 8: learn out here, but don't be mistaken. 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