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Speaker 1: is where you can find Adam on X Adam. What's

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Speaker 1: going on? Brother?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Kevin?

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Speaker 2: I'm over the zoo flu.

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Speaker 1: By the way, are you over it? Now? Okay? You

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Speaker 1: know what, You've had a week to settle? O? Got okay?

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Speaker 1: Now what now?

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Speaker 2: I'm dangerously high on Yonick Janickknan Niederhauser. If you didn't know,

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Speaker 2: Clippers backup center had eleven points in the Rising Stars

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Speaker 2: competition tonight. Kind of a big deal. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Shades of Johnson and Koumpo and him. I see it.

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Speaker 2: I see that was it. I see the vision.

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Speaker 1: I forgot that that was even happening tonight in the

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Speaker 1: Rising Stars. And so so the team that he played

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Speaker 1: for who he played for? Did they win?

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Speaker 2: Who he played for was TN T Yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: I mean essentially I guess, yeah.

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Speaker 2: He played for. They had four different teams. I think

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Speaker 2: he played for Austin Rivers, who was coaching his squad.

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Speaker 2: T Mack was coaching a squad. They had Vince Carter

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Speaker 2: out there. Who am I forgetting Carmelo Anthony as well?

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Speaker 2: Those were the four head coaches and you want to

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Speaker 1: Won Pop Quiz hotshot. Well, I'll preface it by saying

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Speaker 1: this that any of the coaches actually participate, because that

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Speaker 1: might have actually intrigued me to want to watch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, they were in suits except for Carmelo Anthony

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Speaker 2: as always. Yeah, some of the suit did accidentally walk

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Speaker 2: going out there and playing. But no, none of them played, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: damn it sadly, but I'm gonna say, yeah, you were close.

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Speaker 2: He lost to Team Air Canada Vince Carter. That happened. Actually,

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Speaker 2: the first game was pretty good because you had Dylan

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Speaker 2: the target score to get them to forty as the

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Speaker 2: game winning shot. So it felt like they were back

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Speaker 2: in the backyard taking on each other one on one.

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Speaker 2: It was actually a really cool moment. Okay, Plus now

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Speaker 2: Eagles on the call, so that elevated everything. Of course.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that that's enough to want to watch

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Speaker 1: right there, to see you know what, the great noa

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Speaker 1: eagle in the matter. He can call anything a basketball game,

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Speaker 1: a squirrel race, whatever, it doesn't matter. I get a

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Speaker 1: chance to listen to Noah.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the Young Goat, also frequent guest here on FNA,

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Speaker 2: of course Fnat.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk some more NBA coming up later in the

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Speaker 1: show lot. Murray of the Athletic going to join us

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Speaker 1: in the midnight hour midnight Pacific time to talk about

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Speaker 1: the NBA as we have hit the All Star break,

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Speaker 1: the All Star Game and everything surrounding get coming up

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Speaker 1: a little bit later. We have geek news later this hour,

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Speaker 1: do we not we.

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Speaker 2: Got some geek news? Or is it Stranger than Fiction? Okay,

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Speaker 2: Breeze wit to lead on this again. I I don't

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Speaker 2: know why we're doing this after what happened last week,

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Speaker 2: but I'm giving Brebrie a chance for some redemption. What

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Speaker 2: was the toss point zero redemption thing they did where

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Speaker 2: somebody made a fool of themselves and then you brought

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Speaker 2: them on the show to talk about it. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be Brebrie after what happened in Strangers in Fiction

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Speaker 2: last week. Yeah, last week got pretty dark, real dog

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Speaker 2: what Brie was thinking with that story. Good job, Bree,

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Speaker 2: this story we shall not speak of vision accomplished. Brie

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Speaker 2: is good to try to do better. Let's coming up

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Speaker 2: later this hour. You mentioned La Murray top of next hour.

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Speaker 2: We you got some NFL though to tonight, Kevin. It's

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Speaker 2: not all NBA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some trade rumors going on to the NFL involving

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go a little first off.

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Speaker 3: Time.

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Speaker 1: That's wrong. So when talking about the Rising Stars game,

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Speaker 2: think other insiders like Chris Haynes were breaking stories while

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Speaker 2: Sham's was out there playing in the Celebrity All Star Game,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't Sean's breaking that story because he was playing.

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Speaker 1: So what Sean was like spotted up in the corner

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Speaker 2: It wasn't the ball to the face like you know

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Speaker 2: It wasn't balls to the face. But he uh, he

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Speaker 2: like metaphorically you could say that with his performance out there,

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Speaker 2: I guess, and the way he played, and we were

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Speaker 2: for the Evil four letter as the All Star Celebrity

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Speaker 2: Tournament was on the.

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Speaker 1: Well, he was the reason some people play. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: was a reason why some people play, and some people

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Speaker 2: Well, he tried to do both. He got on his

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Speaker 2: using his burner, actually used his real account and called

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Speaker 2: him out and said, you're doing this during a game.

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Speaker 2: You're going on the phone during your during the game shops.

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Speaker 2: Can't you can't it?

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Speaker 1: No, I couldn't. I mean he's a newsman first, all

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Speaker 1: due respect. It is a celebrity game for whatever that

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Speaker 2: Means, and that Ishia or whoever the name is of

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Speaker 1: The Breeze owner. That's not that that sounds weird. The

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Speaker 1: owner of Bree's favorite team, the Suns. Yes, he's been

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Speaker 2: He uh, you know, he played ball at Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. He was decent out there. Uh, Taco Fall

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised she's not the one who came up with

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Speaker 2: the new All Star game format that Nick Wright proposed

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Speaker 2: of let's play black players versus white players out there.

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Speaker 2: That's a great idea.

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Speaker 1: And the sad part is I understand what Nick was

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Speaker 1: because this is kind of well, yes, this is kind

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Speaker 1: Rising Stars Game. And look, I know there was a

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Speaker 1: for the Rising Stars Game, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: So I'm really not all that concerned about it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's a beautiful arena. That's all that matters.

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Speaker 1: All right, Oh, the arena is the star? Is that

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 2: Adam into it dumb and the Clippers are the star.

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Speaker 2: They're the host of this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Clippers in their three game under five hundred

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Speaker 2: Sit at two games. Excuse me, put a little bit

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Speaker 2: of respect on their name. They're twenty and seven after

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Speaker 1: All right, you know, hey, you know what, that's great.

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Speaker 1: You know if the season, if the season started in

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you so the Kevin. They're in the

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Speaker 2: playing tournament currently. They can work their way up. There's

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Speaker 2: still time left. They got twenty seven or twenty eight games.

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Speaker 1: We're okay, Yeah, it's fine, it's fine. Yeah, they can

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Speaker 2: Sure, I'll take San Antonio. I don't think that would

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Speaker 2: be the worst matchup. They don't have the experience. Now.

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Speaker 2: They do have some great players, but they don't have

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Speaker 1: All right, whatever helps you sleep at night at them,

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Speaker 1: punch your chance for the Clippers. I understand, I understand.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is you try to find the All

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Speaker 1: finally doing to a certain degree what people have been

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Speaker 1: asking for for the past decade or so in USA

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Speaker 1: versus the World sort of format, but it's still kind

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Speaker 1: roster construction situation goes. But you're trying really hard to

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Speaker 1: try to make something work that. I'll be honest with you, Adam,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the players really care to make

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Speaker 2: They waited too long. Now it had to get to

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Speaker 2: this point where I think international players make up thirty

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Speaker 2: years ago it was five percent or ten percent, So

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Speaker 2: it's drastic. You didn't want to have a situation where

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Speaker 2: you were making guys all stars who really weren't all stars,

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Speaker 2: just so we could get enough guys to fill the

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Speaker 2: roster for the team, the world team to have this format,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that would have been fair. Like it

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Speaker 2: is a little bit convoluted though, because now they're doing

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Speaker 2: mini games. It's not just one game team USA versus

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Speaker 2: the World, because they don't have enough guys. I think

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Speaker 2: it's eight per team right now, there's three teams fielding eight.

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Speaker 2: There's two for Team USA, the Stars and the Stripes,

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Speaker 2: and then the World team, which has eight guys. So

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Speaker 2: they found a way to get there eventually. Did it

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Speaker 2: take too long? Is it gonna be disappointing? We'll see.

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Speaker 2: I kind of like the fact that Kevin Durant made

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Speaker 2: beat him, talking about how it's Luka Dontrich's fault, it's

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Speaker 2: Game and the lack of competitive competitive competitiveness out there.

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Speaker 1: Which is one of the most trash takes I have

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Speaker 2: Kevin?

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Speaker 1: Wait, so she is gonna blame all the foreigners for

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Speaker 2: The All Star Game fell off long before Luca don

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Speaker 2: He upheld the integrity of the comparativeness of an All

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Speaker 2: It's not like we didn't have one forty scores one

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Speaker 2: I think some of this, Kevin is just about us

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that I'm old is basically that's what

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Speaker 1: what you're telling me right now? Well, well, your kids

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Speaker 2: And that's the reason why. Sure, sure, fine. Whatever My

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kevin, it's it's one thirties at least, like

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Speaker 2: Yes? Is it some atrocity? Is it an abomination? Is

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Speaker 2: And the kids today might be enjoying it still because

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Speaker 1: And tell me if I'm a nostalgia merchant or not

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Speaker 1: like they want a playoff game. It was incredible. Two

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Speaker 2: I agree, And that's the way it's always been, though,

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Speaker 2: we've always had a ton of bad All Star games,

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Speaker 2: with a few that stand out here and there, like

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Speaker 2: The center from the Pacers, tormaino'neil fous Kobe Bryant goes

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Speaker 1: I was hoping you'd say Rick Smith's.

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Speaker 1: Was it? Which was in LA I believe that it

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Speaker 2: The last good All Star game? Do you want to

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Speaker 1: Quiz hot shot? I will tell you the last good

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Speaker 1: You remember when they had that elm ending yep where

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Speaker 2: It was that first time they did the elam Rules

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty All Star Game, twenty twenty one that

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Speaker 2: Team Giannis versus Team Lebron. It was close. Late, guys

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Speaker 1: There was an.

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Speaker 2: Incredible amount of intensity and defense being played. Is because

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Speaker 2: things really mattered. But outside of that, you get these

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Speaker 2: one ninety two to one eighty two that's twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Kobe was in that one. Kobe was in the one

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any one player that can save it. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's one guy that could make everybody

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Speaker 2: Giannis is in Akupo's first All Star Game. I think

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Speaker 2: it was like twenty seventeen. He was out there playing

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Speaker 2: out there going half speed, and Yani is just destroying

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Speaker 2: that's not what we do here at the All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: We're not tried to get hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going Sean Taylor on the punter in the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Yeah, you know which I respect.

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Speaker 2: I get it too. I get all of it. But

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Speaker 2: if he's saying that nineteen ninety there was a reputation

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Speaker 2: So this isn't something new.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And people talk about and this comes up all

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Speaker 1: the time when it comes to potential sports and all

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Speaker 1: one and then two. As long as these overinflated television

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Speaker 1: pay the NBA money for it. It's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: So you can choose to watch it, you can choose

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Speaker 1: to enjoy it. You can choose to complain about it.

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Speaker 1: And my thing is, Adam, if you're going to complain

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Speaker 1: like for as bad as the ratings are. If the ratings,

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Speaker 1: some reason, all these games sell out. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: it's still appealing to somebody.

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Speaker 2: The league is not about to fold. Okay, We're not there.

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Speaker 2: Like the reports of the NBA's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

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Speaker 2: it was media deal, like you were born rich and

440
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Speaker 2: you're going to stage. That's significant. Now. Am I happy

441
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Speaker 2: with some of the stuff being so spread out between

442
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Speaker 2: different channels and Amazon Prime? And I think that could

443
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Speaker 2: end up hurting them eventually, It could. I do think

444
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 2: there are things a tweak. I'm fine with them trying

445
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Speaker 2: a new format. I just don't like to your point, Kevin,

446
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 2: all the pearl clutching got Joe. It's not that serious.

447
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 2: It's an exhibition game, and you can go off of

448
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 2: recent history, you can go off of thirty forty years

449
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 2: ago and see but they weren't exactly playing defense. Every

450
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 2: All Star gamer for every second on the court back then,

451
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 2: either it still really just comes down to what you

452
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. Can we get it close in the fourth quarter,

453
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Speaker 2: and that's when teams and guys will really try hard.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I will say. I know we got to

455
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Speaker 1: check out of here, but you know, I go back

456
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Speaker 1: to an interview that SGA did at the All Star Game.

457
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Speaker 1: I don't know if this was three years ago, maybe

458
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: four years ago, and they asked him, you know, what

459
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Speaker 1: can we do to get you guys to play harder

460
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Speaker 1: consistently during the All Star Game? And as he's standing

461
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 1: there with shades indoors wearing a giant mink coat, he says,

462
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Speaker 1: I mean, they can pay us more money. It's pretty.

463
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Speaker 1: It's just a pretty tone. Def I get it, and

464
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Speaker 1: I understand, but it's like, come on, man, really don't

465
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Speaker 1: get cheap on me, gotcha you now, Granted at the time,

466
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Speaker 1: he wasn't making this much money, getting ready to make

467
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Speaker 1: seventy million dollars a year, wearing a mink coat and

468
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Speaker 1: a gold chain, saying you need to make more money

469
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Speaker 1: to go out and play a kid's game. Come on, brother, They.

470
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Speaker 2: Look at it like it's a weekend off that's how

471
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Speaker 2: guys view it nowadays because they are making so much

472
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Speaker 2: money and the money maybe has gotten too ridiculous. But

473
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Speaker 2: it was always headed to this direction, and if guys

474
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Speaker 2: back then were making the money they were now, they

475
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Speaker 2: might have the same mindset that the guys do now.

476
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Speaker 2: So true, it's hard to compare eras in this, but

477
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Speaker 2: I don't think that it has reached some catastrophic level

478
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Speaker 2: where we need to be talking about it like it's

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Speaker 2: the end of basketball, the end of the NBA, every

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Speaker 2: All Star game. And I do think, to circle back

481
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Speaker 2: to what I said earlier, a lot of it is

482
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Speaker 2: us as kids growing up and thinking everything was amazing,

483
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Speaker 2: and maybe it doesn't hold up as well now if

484
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Speaker 2: you go back and watch some of those games. But

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Speaker 2: for the kids today, they're the ones that are into it.

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Speaker 2: That's who it's for.

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Speaker 7: It's so funny. Okay, anyway, my god, keV, did you

528
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Speaker 7: know he did that?

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Speaker 1: Did what? Wait?

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Speaker 7: Okay, anyway, I didn't know. You thought that was live.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't. It's hard to tell it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Anyways, you've ember she got mad at me because

533
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Speaker 2: I brought up I think bounty Gate or something.

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Speaker 1: I know you could just say, remember she got mad

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Speaker 1: at me, and just in there, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, you're right pretty much the story of But I'm

537
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Speaker 2: always beating a dead horse or a dead scandal with

538
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Speaker 2: the Saints winning the Super Bowl during that year with

539
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Speaker 2: bounty Gate, and she finally had enough.

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Speaker 7: It's so funny. Okay, Anyways, I think she.

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Speaker 1: Wants to go bounty gate on you after that.

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Speaker 2: Real will be handling stranger than fiction coming up next hour,

543
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Speaker 2: Law Murray of the Athletic. But Kevin, unfortunately, we have

544
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Speaker 2: to talk about your Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Raiders shuck less.

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Speaker 2: They do.

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Speaker 1: This is why they have the first overall pick in

548
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Speaker 1: the draft. But Mate their head coaching higher official after

549
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Speaker 1: Clint Kobiak couple the Seattle Seahawks winning the Super Bowl.

550
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: Now they head coach of the Raiders as they begin

551
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Speaker 1: their new rebuild. And as part of that rebuild, Max

552
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Crosby's name has still continued to fly to show up

553
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Speaker 1: in the headlines as to whether or not he is

554
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Speaker 1: going to have a future with the Raiders. And again

555
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Speaker 1: he keeps doing interviews where he doesn't really say a

556
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Speaker 1: whole lot. It's like, keep my name. My truth though

557
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: he speaks is truth. I'm speaking my truth and I'm

558
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Speaker 1: working hard and i want to I'm in the building

559
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Speaker 1: and i want to make sure that I'm healthy and

560
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Speaker 1: ready to go, and stop putting the words in my

561
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Speaker 1: mouth you want to be traded or not? Bro it

562
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Speaker 1: really ain't that hard. And I love Max, no one

563
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: of those mass crowsby more than I do. And but

564
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Speaker 1: are you going to deny the rumor or are you

565
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Speaker 1: going to deny the rumor? I want to be a Raider.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be traded because unless and until

567
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Speaker 1: you say that, none of this is getting cleared up,

568
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Speaker 1: and all the speculation is gonna get to you to

569
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Speaker 1: run rampant. There's stories, I think I brewer out the

570
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Speaker 1: story about Alex Guerrero, who's Tom Brady's guy, you know

571
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Speaker 1: this whole TB twelve, And I guess he has heavy

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Speaker 1: influence in the building and the health and the of

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Speaker 1: the players and how their program is going. And I

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Speaker 1: guess there was some miscommunication between Alex and Max and

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Speaker 1: the organization when he got seated, whatever it was, whatever

576
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Speaker 1: it is, Do you want to be there or do

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Speaker 1: you not? That's the question I want to ask.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he's pulling a honest and denakoompo here

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Speaker 2: and he doesn't want to explicitly say I don't want

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Speaker 2: to be a Raider anymore? Raider shot That's kind of

581
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Speaker 2: what it looks like to me because he doesn't want

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Speaker 2: the fan base to turn on him. But again, can

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Speaker 2: we tell that heat.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this a few weeks ago with Gianna's

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Speaker 1: and Adam. We talked about this last week when when

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby's name came up before. He has gotten so

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Speaker 1: much goodwill with the fan base. If he were to

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Speaker 1: ask for a trade, I don't think many Raider fans

589
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Speaker 1: will be upset by it, especially considering the direction they

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Speaker 1: for the organization is going. He's twenty nine, he just

591
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Speaker 1: came off of I think Maniska surgery he just had

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Speaker 1: last week. He's like, he's got injury history. He's basically

593
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Speaker 1: on the back end of FA's prime as a twenty

594
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Speaker 1: nine year old rush end at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: So if you're going to be in a rebuild and

596
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Speaker 1: a division that tough, that's only getting tough for Denver's

597
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Speaker 1: not going anywhere. The Chargers are getting better. Kansas City

598
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Speaker 1: is still Kansas City, even though they had a down year.

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Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere anytime soon. This is at best

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Speaker 1: a two year rebuild and more realistically probably three or

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Speaker 1: four years. So you're telling me that by the time

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Speaker 1: the Raiders are hopeful to be contending for a playoff

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Speaker 1: spot a championship that Max Trowsby's thirty two or thirty

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Speaker 1: three years old. What good does that do anybody?

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Speaker 2: He's not on their timeline. It doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: Which is different than we debated back and forth for weeks.

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Speaker 1: It seems like about Michaeh. Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Oh are you bringing up both stuff? Kevin Huh No,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: You because I'm using it as a as a comparison point.

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Speaker 1: Because the Cowboys high scoring offense when Dak was healthy,

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Speaker 1: even when Ceedee Lamb was hurting, George Pickens was in there,

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Speaker 1: they could score points and there are times they potentially

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Speaker 1: could have won a game or two if you had

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Speaker 1: a game changer like Micah Parson's out there at defensive end,

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Speaker 1: even if the defensive units sucked, he was so great

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Speaker 1: he can make a change. He can make a defensive

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Speaker 1: play that can change the entire aspect of a game.

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Speaker 1: Supplement around somebody like that. When you're knocking on the door,

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Speaker 1: you are a perennial playoff team that just needs to

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Speaker 1: get over the hump. The Raiders are not a perennial

622
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Speaker 1: playoff team that just needs to get over the hump.

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Speaker 1: They have a ways to go. So if you have

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Speaker 1: someone who's aging and talented and you have the ability

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Speaker 1: to get a really good return for him, Now, you're

626
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Speaker 1: probably not gonna get two first round picks and a

627
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player like the Cowboys got for Micah Parsons,

628
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Speaker 1: but you can get a number one pick and a

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Speaker 1: number two pick, or a one and a three and

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Speaker 1: a player or something like that. There's value for you

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Speaker 1: to be able to get in order to kickstart your rebuild.

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Speaker 1: It makes all the sense in the world for the

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Speaker 1: Raiders to explore trading Max Crosby. I'll be honest with you, Adam,

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Speaker 1: even if he doesn't even request it.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I like to say I still think

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Speaker 2: I was right.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: I don't think they were winning a damn thing this

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00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: year with Michaeh Parsons. You know why, because he got hurt. No,

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Speaker 2: let's say he's healthy. Let's say he's healthy and he

641
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Speaker 2: does win him two more games, which is saying a lot,

642
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Speaker 2: but it could happen. There's still a nine win team.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking. It's well, it's it's not just this year.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty six. It's a future play, but kinda packer

645
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Speaker 1: signed him, so what a seven? Yes you can. The

646
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: salary cap is going up by one hundred and ten

647
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Speaker 1: million dollars.

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Speaker 2: This year, but you're had to him one hundred and

649
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Speaker 2: what was it eighty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they can adjust contracts left and right. For

651
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Speaker 1: an elite player like that, he's more than worth it.

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Speaker 2: That's where that's where the right team. I agree, you

653
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Speaker 2: don't know what the Cowboys were.

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Speaker 1: The onus is on the front office to be able

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Speaker 1: to supplement around an all time great like that. That's

656
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Speaker 1: on them. So he's gonna garner that kind of money.

657
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: And for a team like Dallas, who again, if you're

658
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: a playoff team, first of all, we see if you

659
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: make it into the postseason, the right guy gets hurt,

660
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: you get the right kind of breaks. Anything could potentially happen.

661
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: Not for Dallas, there's yes, it could happen. For anybody

662
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: that's knocking on the door like that. It can potentially happen.

663
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: For if it's Arizona, then sure, because you know they

664
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Speaker 1: aren't going anywhere anytime soon. They're not sniffing the postseason.

665
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: The Raiders were not sniff from the postseason. If you're

666
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: sniffing the playoffs and on the periphery and you have

667
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: a great player like that, I keep him and build

668
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: around him. It's it's a different dynamic between Dallas and

669
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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons and the Raiders and Max Crosby. I look

670
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Speaker 1: at it completely different.

671
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Speaker 2: I agree it's different. I think obviously the Cowboys are better,

672
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 2: They're in a better place, they have a quarterback. I

673
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: still understand, Oh, do I want to pay this guy

674
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: that much money now? Because I just you know how

675
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: I feel about Dak Prescott and the rest of the offense,

676
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: And now you got Quinnon Williams, and maybe you signed

677
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: George Pickens instead and use some of that money on him.

678
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: He spread it around. I don't know, like how much more,

679
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: how many more wins they're getting, or how valuable MICHAEH.

680
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: Parsons would be as a speed rusher on the edge.

681
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: He's pretty much a specialist. He's elite. He's okay, bessed

682
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: at it. I'm not trying to discredit him.

683
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: So I hear rumors this week that the Dallas Cowboys,

684
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: of all people, are one of the top suitors for

685
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: Max Crosby. Well, that's interesting.

686
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 2: Wait a second, isn't it now?

687
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Speaker 1: Granted, Max Crosby and I don't think it's a ginormous

688
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: separation between the two. Michael Parsons is a better player,

689
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: I think. Actually, I'll say this, Adam. Max Crosby, I

690
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: think is a more complete player. He's better against the

691
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: run than Micah is. Micah is a more dominant pass rusher,

692
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: and that is more valuable to teams around the league.

693
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: Pass rush rush it the same way they used to.

694
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: The teams aren't running the ball as much as they

695
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: used to. Yeah, I gotta get after the quarterbacks ass

696
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: although oddly.

697
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: They're running the ball more now than they have in

698
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: the past five or six years. Is the league going

699
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: in cycles and all.

700
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: That, Well, everything's cyclical in the end.

701
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, But so if the Dallas Cowboys essentially Now, here's

702
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: one thing I'll say, he's not going to garner as

703
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: much money he's He's coming in with I believe one

704
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: year left on his contract or two years left on

705
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: his contract, excuse me, Max Crosby, So he is going

706
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: to be up for an extension. He is a little

707
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: bit older, so his prize tag is not going to

708
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: be as hefty. As Michaeh Parsons, but he's certainly not

709
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: going to come cheap.

710
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to a.

711
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: Certain degree, are you kind of admitting that you made

712
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: a mistake when you traded Michaeh Parsons when you could

713
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: have just kept Michael Parsons And now all of a

714
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: sudden you're trying to trade for Max Crosby. Rumor has it?

715
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, what is Michael Parsons making per year now? Is

716
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: it going to be close to fifty million.

717
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: Or something like that? Yeah?

718
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: Max Crosby's making thirty.

719
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Speaker 1: Right, I mean right now he is right now before

720
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: wants his extension.

721
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: Well, he's at least under contract, and that could get

722
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: nasty at some point, just like it did with Michael Parsons.

723
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: I understand that. But if you can hold him at

724
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: thirty for at least another season, he's saving twenty million

725
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: dollars because he didn't give him there. I'm not saying, yes,

726
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: it would be somewhat admitting you made a mistake, or

727
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: at least you're admitting you still need more help there

728
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: like it. It's I don't know, It's a different way

729
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: to team build because if you go all in with

730
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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons. To me, it has to be about winning

731
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: right now. I don't know if Dallas was there. I've

732
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: seen enough of them the last six seven years with

733
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: this group, with this corps that I'm not a believer,

734
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: and then winning the super Bowl right now, I think

735
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: they need a lot more of that money spread out

736
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: across the roster defensively to become a super Bowl level team.

737
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: And it can't just be one guy making that big

738
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: of a difference. If if that was the case, they

739
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been twenty eight defensively the year before with

740
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons. So I don't think one guy can affect

741
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: the game that much to that degree.

742
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: One guy with the right guys around him. And again,

743
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: that's goes to your team building and being able to

744
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: supplement good players around a great player. That is what

745
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: the task is. You have a great player on your roster,

746
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: you don't get rid of him and say, well, let's

747
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: get rid of this one great guy and try to

748
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: find five good ones. Keep the great guy, find five

749
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: good ones, and now all of a sudden you potentially

750
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: can have a dominant defense. Well that's what they're good for.

751
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: That's where the best front office is shine.

752
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: How long did they have to find five good ones

753
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: for Micah Parsons to make that dream happen?

754
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: What is he four years into his career? I guess

755
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: five years now.

756
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: And I know, like Jerry Jones, it's not just him

757
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: in there, you know. But I do think their talent

758
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: evaluation has been good in certain areas, like with the

759
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: offensive line right defensively, they've been lax. And Jerry does

760
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: feel like Al Davis a little bit that he cares

761
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: more about the offensive side of the ball and scoring

762
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: points out there and the highlights, because for him, it's

763
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: all about just being the richest team or the most

764
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: popular team out there more so than just winning. Winning

765
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: can help with that. But I think Jerry Jones is like,

766
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: I can do it either way.

767
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: One thing I will say if we're talking about because

768
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: people have talked about this with the Luca trade and

769
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: how Dallas now all things considered, looks pretty damn good.

770
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: They got lucky the six degrees of separation, the six

771
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: degrees of separation of Kevin Bacon or whatever it's called.

772
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: You know. So if you look at Dallas, it's like, well,

773
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: they got rid of Micah, but they but they are

774
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: also able to bring in Quinn Williams. So if they

775
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: can use one of the draft picks they got from

776
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: the packers and find a way to bring in Max Crosby.

777
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: Now you've got Max Crosby and Quinn Williams and you

778
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: got all this money to use, is like, that's great.

779
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was necessarily part of their

780
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: plan initially when they when they made the deals, but

781
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: it certainly potentially can come out roses for them if

782
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: they can find a way to pull off a trade

783
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: for Max Crosby or somebody else.

784
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: They couldn't have known that, but it did at least

785
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: give them more optionality to look at more ways to

786
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: build a team with spreading the money around like that.

787
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: If you do have Max Crosby and Quinn Williams and

788
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: still one more first round pick, I mean, and a

789
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: little bit more money to spend, wouldn't that mean it

790
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: was a win letting go at Michael Parsons at that point.

791
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: And honestly, I would be able to get with that too.

792
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: If the preference was always that they were gonna trade

793
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: Micah because they couldn't pay him to begin with, and

794
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: that was never the case. It was never the case.

795
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: Locking into this, they're failing upwards and no, you can't

796
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 2: give them too much credit.

797
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: Well, I can't give them credit because they were going

798
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: to sign them back. As evidence by what Jerry Jones said.

799
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones tried to have some sort of handshake agreement

800
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: with the player for less than market value and said that, oh,

801
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: this is how deals get cut. This is how deals

802
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: are done. When you've been an owner in the NFL

803
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: for fifty years or whatever the hell has been forty,

804
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: you know how these things work, Jerry. Don't try to

805
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: pull the wool over the eyes of the agent and

806
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: other people. You know exactly how negotiations go.

807
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: It was nasty work.

808
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it's very nasty work. So it wasn't

809
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: that you were done with Micah and he wanted to

810
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: get rid of them. It was that, you know you,

811
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: basically I felt like it was it still injured his

812
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: ego that Michael part Parsons were negged on whatever deal

813
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: they thought that they had, And so I thought it

814
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: was an ego played more than anything from Jerry Jones

815
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: because he was willing to pay him.

816
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: Do you think as we had to break here in

817
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: a little bit relaxed Brebery, it's gonna be Okay, we'll

818
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: get into your segment here.

819
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: Don't tell them to relax, Okay.

820
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: Adam, you relax. Do you think what are the odds

821
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: of Max Crosby being a Raider heading into training camp?

822
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: The odds better than fifty percent chance, worse than fifty

823
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: percent chance. Do you think he's gone?

824
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a less than fifty percent chance that

825
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: he's still with Las Vegas. It's more likely than not

826
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: that he gets moved, whether he asks for it or not.

827
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: I agree with you coming it was probably best.

828
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: For all parties. By the way, in saying that.

829
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raiders are on a different timeline than him.

830
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: They can help themselves out, they can help him out.

831
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: Works for both. Coming up next, Bree's gonna help us out.

832
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: Stranger than Fiction led by Brewbury here on F and

833
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: A on Fox Sports Radio.

834
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: Well, with all that, it sounds like you've got a

835
00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: pretty big night.

836
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: Play F and A Cotton back in on Fox Sports Saturday,

837
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: Kevin figures Adam Alston with you guys coming up in

838
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: our next segment, Law Murray of the Athletic, I'm going

839
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: to dive into the NBA as we have reached the

840
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: All Star break, talk about the contenders going into the

841
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: second half of the season, talk about the All Star festivities,

842
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: and if there's anything that could be done to fix them,

843
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: if they even need any fixing. But right now, what

844
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: do we got?

845
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: Oh God, our fast.

846
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: Food customer defending for decision called nine one one after

847
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: her McDonald's run out of McNuggets. He can't give a

848
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: drunk man riding a horse at Ewie and he got.

849
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 3: Unlike cards, hordes don't have motors.

850
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: They have in mind in their.

851
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 8: Own strange twenty four year old man now Cusa throwing

852
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 8: an alligator through a drive through window Strangelix.

853
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: Wellbray, it's time to redeem yourself after last week's stranger

854
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: than fiction? What do you got?

855
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 9: I feel like last week's though it would have been

856
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 9: so good because like Valentine is like, you know, like love.

857
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: And nothing says love like assisted.

858
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 9: Alrighty whatever, Okay, this takes place on the East Coast. Okay,

859
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 9: So Rhode Island there, you know, we all know it's

860
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 9: like a very very small state.

861
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 2: Okay, got that part.

862
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: As far as you can get, the.

863
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 9: Far east as you can get. Okay, So Rhode Islanders

864
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 9: have had the ability to put the image of mister

865
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 9: potato Head as a specialty license plate for decades. Okay,

866
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 9: so Hasborough, who is the company that created mister potato Head,

867
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Speaker 9: they move their headquarters from Rhode Island to Boston.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Okay, so now.

869
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Speaker 9: So now there's like a lot of drama happening in

870
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Speaker 9: Rhode Island and they're trying to say that now that

871
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 9: they're going to remove mister potato Head as like a

872
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 9: specialty license plate for people that live there because they're

873
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 9: like really pissed.

874
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: Off that state toy.

875
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, that there is pissed off that, like they moved

876
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 9: their headquarters from Rhode Island to Boston because because it's

877
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 9: such a small state, there was a lot of economic

878
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 9: and like jobs and everything that was impacting the state.

879
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: No, it's the.

880
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 9: And the license plate costs like forty bucks, right, and

881
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 9: a lot of that half of the amount was going

882
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 9: to support the Rhode Island Community Food Bank, and so

883
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 9: Hasbar leaving the state was causing untold economic harm and.

884
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 7: Loss of tax revenue.

885
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 9: So that's just like kind of some drama between like

886
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 9: interstates and like license plate and like mister potato Head

887
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 9: causing drama between states. It could cause like a war.

888
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 9: This could be hat veiled versus McCoy's over like an

889
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 9: image of a toy.

890
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: If only like one state could have some of the

891
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: pieces of mister potato Head and one could have the others,

892
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: if only they were easily pulled apart like.

893
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 9: That, know, or a mister and a missus potato had

894
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 9: and maybe they got divorced and one was in Rhode

895
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 9: Island and one was in Boston.

896
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: It's like a miss pac Man and mister mister pac Man.

897
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: It's just pac Man. You know.

898
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 9: I just thought it was interesting just because like they're

899
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 9: just having this like kind of like war between like you,

900
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 9: we're going to remove this as an option. You aren't

901
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 9: going to be able to add mister potato Head to

902
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 9: your license plate.

903
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what rama. I don't know if potato

904
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: guns are legal there, but I know what I'd be

905
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: doing with that thing. I'd be shooting potatoes back and forth.

906
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: This will not stand.

907
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: Encourage violence, you know. Fellow brethren here.

908
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: The Boston tea party. Now this so see.

909
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: You're still my job. You can take a potato to

910
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: the face. You know, it's not even baked It's a

911
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: full on, hard, fully mature potato straight to the head.

912
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: That's right.

913
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 7: It's my way happier segment than last week. Okay, guys

914
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 7: doing good.

915
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: I very happy for the not very happy for the

916
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: people of Rhode Island.

917
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 7: Oh no, but who cares about that. It's all about

918
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 7: Boston and jeez.

919
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: Coming up next a guy from Philly. Man, it's La

920
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: Murray of the Athletic NBA Expert and insider. Here listening

921
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: to FNA on FSR.

922
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. It's right hour

923
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: two of Fox Sports Saturday with Kevin Figures and Adam Austlin.

924
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: You can hit me up on X at kfig one.

925
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: You can get Adam up on X as well at

926
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: follow Adam A. Thank you guys for joining the program.

927
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: Appreciate you listening in and Adam right now, let's not

928
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: waste any time. We have a special guest joining us

929
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: right now, Alan Drinking did thank you, Donny. Yeah.

930
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: Our next guest is an authority on the NBA. How

931
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: do I know that? Because it's in his name. It's

932
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: La Murray of the Athletic NBA Insider and Analyst. I

933
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: am the law who is there tonight at the Friday

934
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: Night festivities and into it home for the opening of

935
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: All Star Weekend. Ala, thanks for doing this on FNA

936
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: on FSR.

937
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 3: Our friend, Hey, thanks for having me at midnight Friday

938
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: night on Offstar Weekend.

939
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: Well, yo, you want any crazy parties are going to

940
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: you're already back home. I heard that you had to

941
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: catch a scooter to catch the bus and it worked

942
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: like out of a movie, like you were Peter Parker

943
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: or something like that. That's crazy, you.

944
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 3: Know, straight up. That's like I was going to miss

945
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: this bus. And then I saw a scooter on the

946
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: shodewalk and I was like, I ain't missing this bust.

947
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: So I got on the electric scooter thro all the

948
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: way down to the corner, beat the bus to the

949
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: corner and I pointed to the driver and I got

950
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: one of the bus without turning the scooter off. The

951
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: driver opened the door so I could turn that yawn off.

952
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: So so yeah, I had to talk about that a

953
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: little bit.

954
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: A lot finds Away. I love it.

955
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: Well done at Lot Murray dnu he can find that

956
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 2: sweet up there talking about the adventures of Law Murray.

957
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: But his latest is now Team Vince Edges, Team mellow

958
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: in Rising Stars Game is Vja Edgecombe apters. The MVP

959
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: wrote that for the Athletics tonight law did All Star

960
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: Weekend get off on the right foot? Was tonight a payoff?

961
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: I saw the arena wasn't exactly that full, But it's

962
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 2: just the Rising Stars competition? How are things looking?

963
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: I mean, All Star weekend is always you know, especially

964
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: to start out, I gotta I gotta ease into it,

965
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 3: you know, I cover enough basketball during the weekend. I mean,

966
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: it's a tiring thing to just get there, you know,

967
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: to get integrated into the weekend. And so I know

968
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: a lot of people might not have made it to

969
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: the arena, but I know a lot of people are

970
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: up for this All Star weekend, you know, And honestly,

971
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: people don't show up to the arena that's on the NBA,

972
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: like everybody is. I've been calling All Star Weekend like

973
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl of the NBA, And obviously the actual

974
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: game itself is not significant in the slightest, you know,

975
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: like the Super Bowl is obviously the world championship for

976
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: football because no other no other country plays football like

977
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: the NFL does in the United States ATA, But like

978
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 3: you know, every team is here except I guess the

979
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 3: sacrament the Kings. I still don't have any evidence that

980
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: anybody is weppon the Kings here, but like everybody has

981
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: some team here for just from a team aspect of

982
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: Then you got these brands and these influencers and everything

983
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: else going on, and it's like the energy is there

984
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: in the county at least. And if you're going to

985
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: have all these extra things going on, like people forget

986
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: the game and the events that are going on that

987
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 3: actually are the nucleus of All Star Weekend, then all right,

988
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: you maybe you're gonna have to look at that. But

989
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: for me, I just Friday night is usually the day

990
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: I show up to the host city. Of the fact

991
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 3: that this happens to be in Englewood, it's actually pretty

992
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: inconvenient for me because I don't live close to the arena.

993
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: So you know, I was just happy to get there,

994
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: happy to race up and down the stairs about half

995
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: a dozen times. And I'll do it again tomorrow.

996
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: Get them steps in, brother, it's all good. Law Murray

997
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: from the Athletic joining us here fn A on FSR.

998
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: So you talk about the parties and the marketing and

999
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: the sponsors and everything else, surrounding the All Star weekend festivities,

1000
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: and it kind of takes away from the actual action

1001
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: on the court. And so you look at the Slam

1002
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: Dunk Contest and there's really not a lot of big names.

1003
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: You have the All Star Game itself and they're trying

1004
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: a new format this year USA versus the World, and

1005
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: you say, it's something that the NBA has to look

1006
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: at taking more of the attention away from all of

1007
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: the peripheral things or the things that should be peripheral,

1008
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: and putting the focus back on the actual action. How

1009
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: do you go about doing that? I guess one, I'll

1010
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: start with these dunk contests, which for years now running

1011
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: has not really had a lot of marquee names in it,

1012
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: and then the All Star Game itself. When it comes

1013
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: to formatting and getting star players to put forth a

1014
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: real good faith effort once the game starts.

1015
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's just going to come down to the players

1016
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 3: and the participants of the weekend in the league. They

1017
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: have to have an ownership to really want this weekend

1018
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: to meet something. And the definition changes, like All Star

1019
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: Weekend from the twentieth century, I just feel like you

1020
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: don't see these players as much right, Like the exposure

1021
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: that you get during an All Star weekend, it's a

1022
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: showcase through the week. That's what in the twentieth century. Well,

1023
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 3: we are twenty five years into the twenty first century

1024
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 3: now and social media angel saying the way we market things.

1025
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 3: I could go on and on, and so it's going

1026
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: to take the next generation of players too, because you know, Lebron,

1027
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: Steph Kdi, those guys shouldn't have to be the ones

1028
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: that show up all the time. It's like, you know,

1029
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: sixty year old raising kids, Like there needs to be

1030
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: a sense of ownership from the guys that are coming up,

1031
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: the guys that are in their primes to want to

1032
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 3: showcase the game and the league and each other as personalities.

1033
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm a w W or I was.

1034
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not going to kind of like I'll

1035
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: watch that now, but like the events meant something, the

1036
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: pay per views meant something. And I can count on

1037
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: one hand how many pay per views I got to watch.

1038
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: My people didn't have money like that. But you know,

1039
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: I always wanted to see the pick the views. I

1040
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: was always gonna watch Monday Night Raw the next night

1041
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: to see what that think, right, But leading up to it.

1042
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 3: What makes you get into it. It ain't just the matches

1043
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 3: just to talk. It's you know, the conslit, the interactions

1044
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: and whatnot. And I mean also a weekend is it

1045
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: can be a silly weekend both in reality, you just

1046
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 3: need to put more focus on the game. And it

1047
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: ain't just the game on the floor. It's like talk

1048
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: about the game and each other and just I don't know,

1049
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: stir something up. I'm never going to complain about that.

1050
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: Lomer is our guest here on F and A. On FSR,

1051
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: we talked about it a little bit earlier. My feelings

1052
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: on and are, while the game's gotten worse, it has

1053
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: degraded most of the time, is still not being played

1054
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: with much defense out there. I'm finding scores looking over

1055
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: the box scores or the history of the game and

1056
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: the nineties, they're scoring in the one fifties and one

1057
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: sixties and eighties. They're doing the same thing. Like, is

1058
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: it overblown that the game has gotten so bad that

1059
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: people are, you know, clutching pearls about it. I feel

1060
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: like we loved it as kids because we were kids

1061
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: to some degree, and the kids today might love it,

1062
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: but maybe we're a little bit jaded. We don't see

1063
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: it the same way.

1064
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, people who like to complain about stuff have a

1065
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: louder voice now than they used to. I think if

1066
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: you were to look at coverage from when I was

1067
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 3: in middle school in high school, like, you would definitely

1068
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 3: see a lot of negative or at least some coverage

1069
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: that would suggest that, you know, people weren't necessarily content

1070
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 3: with how things were going. You know. It's just that

1071
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: that generation is still around, and the generation that we're

1072
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: part of, we're a little louder, and we definitely, you know,

1073
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 3: trying to take ownership of that, like as our game,

1074
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 3: if you want to call it what it is now.

1075
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 3: It's always had some issues. I remember Charles Barkley used

1076
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 3: to say, anybody trying to play defense or care about

1077
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: the first three quarters of All Star Games, but if

1078
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: it's close in the fourth, that's where you might get

1079
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: a lot more juice, a lot more competition, a lot

1080
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: more of the things that maybe people remember. I'm always

1081
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: happy when people are not a historical not to use

1082
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: a double negative one to show like, yes, shout out

1083
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: to you for looking back at some of them. Box scores,

1084
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: like the All Star Game has always been hit or

1085
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: miss It's always had to be something and vice versa.

1086
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: The twenty twenty All Star weekend that was a great

1087
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 3: All Star game, a great All Star weekend, you know,

1088
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 3: the one where while Leonard went winning MVP in Chicago

1089
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: while everybody was complaining about how cold it was in Chicago. So,

1090
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: I mean All Star. This spry goes beyond just All Stars.

1091
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 3: It's a state of the games to state alike, like, no,

1092
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: these dudes aren't going to play defense, Like defense requires

1093
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: physicality and saling and doing a whole lot of stuff

1094
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: that guys ain't trying to. Guys ain't trying to like

1095
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: go in the All Star and then come out and

1096
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: need a week to recover from All Star, Like you

1097
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 3: would be complaining about that too, Like, don't guess around

1098
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: you want defense at an All Star game? You don't

1099
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: want You don't really want.

1100
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: That low Chris Paul made a sure of All Star

1101
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: teams throughout his career, and he announced on Friday that

1102
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: he was retiring very unceremoniously, considering how things ended with

1103
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: his reunion with the Clippers that were short lived earlier

1104
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: this year. You covered the Clippers for a long period

1105
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: of time. I'm sure you got to know Chris Paul

1106
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. Just your reaction to how his career

1107
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: is ended, and where do you think he ranks when

1108
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: it comes to all time great at the point guard position.

1109
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: I feel so bad for Chris, but mainly because like

1110
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm completely over it. Like when I saw the announcement today,

1111
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 3: I had youuro emotion whatsoever, because I feel like I've

1112
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 3: been in a state of retiring Chris Paul for several

1113
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 3: months now, you know what I mean. Like even before

1114
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: he made the decision to sign with the Clippers in July,

1115
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 3: and Adam can attest to this because I was on

1116
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 3: his show, I was like, I mean, I guess the

1117
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: Clippers could sign them, like maybe you know somewhere else,

1118
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: but that thing was dragging all through July. It felt

1119
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 3: like there was some assizing that needed to be done.

1120
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: Even then, we all knew that Chris was at the

1121
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: end at the twilight and that he was running out

1122
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: of chairs to sit in. You know, it made sense

1123
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 3: to coming to the Clippers. But for the Clippers it

1124
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: was like, bro, we'll have you, but like, we don't

1125
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 3: we need you, bro. And if this season was what

1126
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: everyone expected it to be, for the Clippers at the

1127
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 3: end of the summer where they would build off of

1128
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 3: their playoff appearance, one that surprised a lot of people

1129
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: because the Clippers had very low expectations going into the

1130
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four to twenty five seasons. Then everything is

1131
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 3: more tolerable. But the Clippers won two games in November,

1132
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: and that's the last full month that Chris Paul played

1133
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: in the NBA. A lot happened in November that completely

1134
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: changed the meaning of what this season was going to

1135
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 3: be for the LA Clippers, and Chris Paul was caught

1136
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: up in that. But it's like, when Chris shined, we

1137
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: retired him. When Chris started training, came, we retired him.

1138
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 3: When Chris went to Charlotte, we retired him because Chris

1139
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 3: put out his retiring nothing. And then Chris comes back

1140
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: home and no one's sawking to Chris because the season

1141
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 3: is going sideways. And then they go on the East

1142
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: Coast road trip, they send them home. We retired him again,

1143
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: and then they get straded. Last week we're retired. It's like,

1144
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: how often are you going to have this, you know reaction?

1145
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: So I'm glad Chris came to the to the conclusion man,

1146
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 3: this is how it needs to end. But for me,

1147
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: it's like I've written a story so many times already,

1148
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't think I'm going to feel

1149
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: any emotion towards being the Chris Paul's career until we

1150
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 3: get to a point where we can really celebrate it again,

1151
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: and if the Clippers as a franchise can get around

1152
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: to celebrating it properly as well.

1153
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: Law I tried to push this question onto Kevin, but

1154
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: he said I had to be a big kid. Now, Adam,

1155
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: what's the level of awkwardness right now? I know it's

1156
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: just one night. The Commissioner is going to speak tomorrow,

1157
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: but with the All Star weekend add into a dome

1158
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: the Clippers are hosting, Steve Balmer's there taking pictures with

1159
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: the commissioner. Given the investigation going on and the latest

1160
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: from Pablo Tore this week episode eight where he referenced

1161
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: you multiple times, and you're reporting along the way, just

1162
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: what is I guess the scuttle butter, what are people saying?

1163
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: Are we going to reach a conclusion before this season

1164
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 2: is over? Is there going to be a ruling here?

1165
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: And what's this weekend like with that hanging over it.

1166
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: Honestly, I just feel like this weekend is going to

1167
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 3: be this weekend. It's going to it's going to come

1168
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 3: and go, And I'm of the I'm of the thought

1169
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: that there are people in the league office that desperately

1170
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: need an off break as well, because when they come

1171
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: back and the game start up, that's four months of

1172
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: having to get through this season. So I'm hoping that

1173
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: we get a week It's not really you know, think

1174
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 3: of that. Obviously, it's going to be a topic conversation

1175
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: with everybody. Say, like, people are going to people all

1176
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 3: over the world, not just the country, but the world.

1177
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 3: You know, they're coming down to Englewood, not just LA

1178
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 3: but Englewood specifically to have this advance and to celebrate

1179
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 3: the game, but also to think about all the issues

1180
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 3: that come with the games. And Adam Silver is obviously

1181
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 3: front and center, him with Steve Balmer, like that's to me,

1182
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: that's just two people who've known each other for as

1183
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: long as they have. You know, we saw what happened

1184
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: with Kawhi like he's not an All Star and people

1185
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: said what they had to say for forty eight hours,

1186
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: and then Adam Silver himself makes the selection that makes

1187
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 3: Kawhi an All Star. So I just feel like people

1188
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 3: are going to be dissatisfied one way or the other,

1189
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 3: and I really don't want to think about it. You know,

1190
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to have any to think about when we

1191
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 3: do get conclusions, when we do get consequences, when penalties

1192
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: are announced, when the fallout, who's going to have to

1193
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 3: be dealt with? And I'm a big one protecting my energy.

1194
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: That's why I'm on my couch on a Friday night

1195
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: all star fucking to you guys. Now, I got a

1196
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: lot more to do. We can. It's like, I'm not

1197
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: going to wear myself out the first night. I'm a

1198
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: I'm a veteran, you know what I'm saying. Uh, how

1199
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 3: can you say it? I'm not a milk and cookie ripe.

1200
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 3: I'm a coffee and doing a grown up. So that's

1201
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: where we at, right.

1202
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: I love it, Love Murray or the Athletic joining us

1203
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: here on fn A on FSR. You gotta gotta be

1204
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: able to pick your spots. You can't go to every

1205
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: single party, you know what I mean. Gotta be a

1206
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: little bit more selective. So, uh, yes, I feel you.

1207
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that about the Utah, in in

1208
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: the in the in Indianapolis or or Indiana, I should say,

1209
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: both of them getting fined earlier this week by the

1210
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: NBA for resting healthy players the accusations of tanking, and

1211
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't know at this point in time law how

1212
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: the NBA finds a way to curb it. I know

1213
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: there have been reports about them potentially maybe having like

1214
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: a playoff for the lottery teams and they can play

1215
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: for the first overall pick. What what do you think

1216
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: the NBA realistically can do to slow this sort of

1217
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: strategy down for teams, because you really can't be grudge

1218
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: they're not doing necessarily anything against the rules when it

1219
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: comes to the top protected picks and trading players. Obviously,

1220
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: if you're sitting healthy guys, that's different, but you're not

1221
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: circumventing anything. If you find ways to make trades for

1222
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: guys who just quote unquote happened to be injured and

1223
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: you quote unquote happen to have a top eight protected pick,

1224
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: that's something that needs to be fundamentally changed in the rules,

1225
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: does it not.

1226
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think that we just need

1227
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: to stop fromplaining about it, Like the number one seed

1228
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 3: in the West got this way because they changed all right.

1229
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: Like I remember being at Downtown, LA last game of

1230
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one to twenty two season and the

1231
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City's Thunder play six dudes, and the best of

1232
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 3: those six dudes did not play. I think he played

1233
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: the least minutes Isaiah Roby Yautin looked up the box

1234
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 3: score and that game wound up being decided about fifty points.

1235
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: And a couple months later they had a number two

1236
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: picks and that guy is the first time All Star

1237
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: this year, and they wound up getting the Clippers pick

1238
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: because they failed to play in tournament during that week,

1239
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 3: and they wound up getting another guy who wound up

1240
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: being in All NBA selection last year in Jaalen Williams

1241
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: and Shay Gills. Alexander was on that team, but there

1242
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: was a two three year structure where Shay Gois Alexander

1243
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 3: didn't play after like the first day of spring, Like,

1244
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the number one seat. The number

1245
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: two seeds just waved a dude and Journey so On

1246
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: who they started at point guard one purpose next to

1247
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 3: Victor Woman and Yama, and that got them another pick

1248
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: that wound up turning into a Rookie of the Year.

1249
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: So I mean, I don't want to hear it. Man,

1250
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: Like Kings have tanked forever. We have the lottery because

1251
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 3: the Hoaston Rocket is. Back in nineteen eighty four, they

1252
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 3: were playing thirty seven year old Elvin Hayes like he

1253
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: was in the prime of his career, like in the eighties,

1254
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 3: not even now, where you got guys like Lebron jumped

1255
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: triple doubles and whatnot. So I mean, I mean, we

1256
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: just complain about stuff all the time. It's a major

1257
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: part of sports talk and I hate it, Like I

1258
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 3: can't wait to just talk about the game, like talk

1259
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: about these teams that are being put together and these

1260
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 3: players trying to figure it out, and the competition that

1261
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 3: you get playing every team in the league. Like there's

1262
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: always somebody complaining about something and that extends to these

1263
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: front offices and these teams. They want to pass the

1264
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 3: buck and have this lack of accountability, so if you want,

1265
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: in my opinion, I feel like Utah and Indiana they're

1266
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 3: just getting picked on. And I know Utah really got

1267
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: to be set up. Indiana at least they're going to

1268
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 3: have an All NBA player come back to their team

1269
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 3: next year in Kyrie Calliburton. They're not going to be

1270
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: a part of this for that long anyway. But Utah

1271
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 3: was the worst team in the league last year and

1272
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: they lost a lottery picks one through four once it's

1273
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 3: teams that had better records than the Utah Jazz and

1274
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: they had to sit there. And with the fifties, you know,

1275
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: the Washington Wizards, you know, they could have easily been

1276
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 3: fine if you want to talk about tanking. But Washington

1277
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: Wizards went out and they got Trey Young and Anthony

1278
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 3: Davis and promptly mothballed them. You know, forget your player

1279
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 3: participation policy. Those dudes are actual stars outlined in the

1280
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 3: player participation policy. I've done a piece two three years

1281
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: in a row now talking about how dudes don't get

1282
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 3: to sixty five games all the time. And this is

1283
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: the league that you have, like your best players, you

1284
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 3: only care about fifty dudes, and when those dudes miss games,

1285
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 3: everyone wants to cutch pearls and whatnot. I mean, call

1286
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 3: for what it is. Y'all don't care about five hundred players,

1287
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: You only care about fifty, and y'all just like to

1288
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 3: complain about stuff you know, people will say the regular

1289
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 3: season doesn't matter and just do it in the playoffs,

1290
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 3: and then here it is the regular season, and I

1291
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 3: guess the rare seating matters because we're finding two small

1292
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: market teams now. So I think it's all silly, and

1293
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: I think the league just keeps playing into it. Change

1294
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: the system if you want to. There's always going to

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Speaker 3: be somebody who thinks there's always going to be injuries.

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01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: There's always going to be something where you mess things up.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I don't. I wouldn't give it a

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Speaker 3: whole lot more guests than we are already giving it.

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Speaker 2: People love to complain, but it ain't nobody complaining about

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Speaker 2: La Murray coming on with us late night on FNA

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Speaker 2: on FSR, Lah, get your rest because they might need

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow if there's another celebrity tournament. Because Shams can't

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Speaker 2: hit a shot, but I know you can, So my friend,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for doing this late night here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Follow law at La Murray the.

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Speaker 3: N You loveill top soon man, Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next as La Murray had to break it

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Speaker 2: down like only he can, up late with us on

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Speaker 2: a Friday.

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Speaker 1: Night, chilling on his couch, A man after my own heart.

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01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: I could be out partying. I could be going a drink.

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01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: I can go to Michael Jordan's party. I can be

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01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: going somewhere else. Nah sitting on my damn couch doing

1314
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 1: a radio interview to pop on the TV and show

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Speaker 1: my ass out.

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Speaker 2: I just can't get over the scooter story. Like he's

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Speaker 2: Ferris Bueller. Like he hops a scooter, grabs the back

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Speaker 2: of the left, electricity on it to get the back

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Speaker 2: of the car, the bus he gets on. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You's journey. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Follow him at La Murray the NU Coming up next,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about could they be a changing of the

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Speaker 2: guard with some of these quarterbacks? QB carousel going on

1324
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Speaker 2: in the NFL right now? Who are the guys available

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Speaker 2: and where could they be going? This is fn A

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Speaker 2: on FSR.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot Murray once again for joining us on

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01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: a Friday night opening night of All Star Weekend. Coming

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Speaker 2: up to the next segment, we'll discuss CP three, who

1344
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: is now retired, and where he ranks among all time

1345
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: point guards and NBA history. But first, Kevin, I got

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01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: a question for you.

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Speaker 5: One of the headlines on the announcement of starting quarterbacks, Well,

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Speaker 5: there are plenty.

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Speaker 1: Of open positions. Dare I say there's more teams that

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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: knee quarterbacks and there are actually viable starting quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: are available.

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Speaker 2: I mean think you're wrong. I think there is poor

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01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 2: quarterback play across the league right now. Quarterback plays down.

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Speaker 1: And look there you know report on Friday that the

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01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: Dolphins are still trying to figure out what they're gonna

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01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: do with Tua. I'll tell you what they're gonna do

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01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: you're out. Yeah. I was trying to think of a

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01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: nicer way to say, kick his ass to the curb,

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01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: but that's essentially what they're going to do, and it's

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Speaker 1: through no fault of his own. He's had the health issues,

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01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: the concussion issues. When he was with Mike McDaniel, and

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01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: in that offense and having the speedzer receivers and a

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Speaker 1: decent offensive line early on, he put up good numbers,

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Speaker 1: but he just has He's one of those guys that

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01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: needs way too much working in his favor. He needs

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01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: way too much help for anybody to really lean on

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Speaker 1: him to be their starting quarterback. So I really don't

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Speaker 1: know what his future in the NFL is, Adam, if

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Speaker 1: he even has one. To be honest with you, it's.

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Speaker 2: Kind of your job to prop him up and insulate

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Speaker 2: him and protect him and make sure he has just

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Speaker 2: enough weapons he doesn't elevate everybody else as much. I

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01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: don't think he's a bad quarterback, but for that price tag,

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01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 2: he's not worth it. And by the way, it's just

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Speaker 2: dangerous at this point with Tua, he's had too many

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01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: head injuries. Like it's his choice, of course, he's got

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Speaker 2: to do what's best for him, but some of the

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01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: stuff we've seen with him is particularly scary.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely, so I know his future probably at best,

1380
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: is to be a backup set. I can't see anybody

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Speaker 1: out here, even the most quarterback thirsty teams, and there

1382
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: are a few of them which we can get to.

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of those teams are bringing him

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Speaker 1: in with designs that he can be their starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: or probably even compete for a starting quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about some of these thirsty teams, Kevin, I

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Speaker 2: like the way you put that. Why don't you.

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Speaker 1: Take a taste of the drink.

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Speaker 2: There is real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well one is gonna be his former team, soon

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Speaker 1: to be former team, the Miami Dolphins. What the hell

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Speaker 1: are they going to do at quarterback? I'll argue the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. You have Michael Pinnix who has torn every

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Speaker 1: single acl in existence in his legs. Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what his future is even going to look like.

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Speaker 1: You're root for him and you hope he plays, he

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01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: comes back and recovers. But I'll be honest, before he

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01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: got hurt, he still didn't look like he looked. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to label the guy a bust. It had been

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Speaker 1: his season and a half, not even a full season.

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Speaker 1: You gotta give guys time to progress, but he certainly

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01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: wasn't impressing by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's had too many setbacks with these injuries and

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01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: then you never got enough of a sample size to

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Speaker 2: say who he is as a quarterback. Yet it's still inconclusive.

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Speaker 2: But how long can you wait?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Falcons are a team that have good

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Speaker 1: offensive weapons. You have Bijon Robinson, you have Drake London,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts finally broke out and had a productive season

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Speaker 1: this past year. You have good young players on defense.

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Speaker 1: You know, say for your one defensive tackle who had

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Speaker 1: some all field issue earlier this week, So who knows

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Speaker 1: what his future is going to end up being in

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01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: James Pierce for Yeah, So I mean and look, he

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Speaker 1: produced on the field, but good, but the all field

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Speaker 1: stuff is going to be a bit of an issue.

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Speaker 1: But new exciting head coaching Kevin Stefanski, the quarterback whisper.

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Speaker 1: The Falcons were a team in a division that's not

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Speaker 1: extremely tough, and a division by the way they ended

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Speaker 1: up tying for the lead in by the end of

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Speaker 1: the season. As crazy as that was.

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Speaker 2: When you say not extremely tough, you're being very charitable.

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Speaker 2: CE South might be the worst division in sports, Kevin

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Speaker 2: now trying.

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Speaker 1: To say that, trying to be nice at I'm just

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01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: trying nice. Carolina Panther over here, we read the hard,

1427
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: honest truth. Okay, every team in the division sucks. How

1428
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 2: You got a quarterback that's five to eight that won

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Speaker 2: the division this past year.

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: Can't happen and he's coming back again, I know.

1432
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: And they competed against the Rams in that playoff game.

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Speaker 2: They're talking themselves into building off of what happened this season,

1434
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 2: but I think he's gonna blow up in their face horribly.

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Speaker 1: Now, one name to keep an interesting or one name

1436
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on, I should say that's interesting

1437
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: is Malik Willis. He was the backup quarterback for the

1438
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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. You remember he was the third round

1439
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: pick I believed by the Tennessee Titans a couple of

1440
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: years ago, got a couple of starts, didn't really materialize,

1441
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: move to Green Bay. He's been backing up Jordan Love

1442
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and when he has had

1443
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: opportunities to play, he's actually played pretty well. And show

1444
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: a lot of the promise that a lot of people

1445
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: thought he had when he came out of Liberty. I

1446
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: think three or four years ago he could be one

1447
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: of those guys that a team could bring in to

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01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: compete for a starting and I think he can actually

1449
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: if he's in the right system, like Atlanta potentially, or

1450
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: maybe he goes to the Colts as a stop gap

1451
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: as they wait for Daniel Jones to come back. You know,

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01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: I could see him potentially being a guy that kind

1453
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: of comes out of nowhere and ends up being potentially

1454
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: a viable starting NFL quarterback if he lines lands in

1455
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: the right situation, one of.

1456
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 2: The cheaper guys that has a lot of potential and

1457
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: upside that you could take a flyer on and see

1458
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: what you got when he actually gets more playing time.

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01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: There was a guy out of Green Bay a long

1460
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 2: time ago that was in this situation that actually did get.

1461
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: Paid paid that to me and his money.

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Speaker 2: Matt Flynn.

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01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: That's right now. Matt Flynn had one start, I believe,

1464
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly.

1465
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: Was it against the Patriots And he had like five

1466
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: touchdowns on a primetime game, right And.

1467
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember the Packers lose that game.

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01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: I think they might have if Matt Flynn didn't lose

1469
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 2: that game. I'll tell you that wasn't on him.

1470
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: Parlayed it to a big contract with the Seamtle Seahawks,

1471
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: where he never played, and he got beat out, drafted

1472
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: a guy named Russell Wilson, and.

1473
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 2: The rest was history there. But for certain teams that

1474
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: are in that position, like the Atlanta Falcons, maybe you

1475
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: just want to bring in somebody to compete at least,

1476
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 2: you know, I think I'm handing the job over to

1477
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix, who hasn't proved much yet.

1478
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, I think someone like Milike Willis would actually

1479
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: be a good play. You bring him in, have him compete.

1480
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 1: If he beat you out, great, If he doesn't, he'd

1481
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: be a solid backup for you. I think that'd be

1482
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: kind of a perfect landing spot. Here's an interesting one,

1483
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: speaking of dominiutive quarterbacks.

1484
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 2: Who's shorter than Right's young didn't know they stacked desk Dott.

1485
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: What about Colin Murray? Oh video, by the way, who

1486
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: is shorter between the two of those? I think Kyler

1487
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: Murray shorter? Is he not?

1488
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: For the sake of my long running joke about Bryce Young.

1489
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 2: I hope not. I can't.

1490
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,480
Speaker 1: Bryce youngest shorter Bree Okay, well, I gazed.

1491
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: It off the fact that he was standing next to

1492
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers because they played each other. This was on

1493
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks the Panther and the Jets during a practice

1494
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 2: session scrimmage, and he was standing next to Aaron Rodgers,

1495
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: who I've stood next to, and he's like an inch

1496
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: taller than me, and Bryce Young looked like he was

1497
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,879
Speaker 2: a good six to eight inches shorter than Aaron Rodgers.

1498
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: That's where I'm coming from.

1499
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers' pocket is basically what you're saying.

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01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, probably because Aaron Rodgers is six to and technically

1501
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 9: six to two.

1502
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, well whatever.

1503
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: He's six two, I'm six to one, and I'm not.

1504
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 7: You're definitely not what I was just a seating effect.

1505
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 9: But Kyler Murray and Bryce Young online they both say

1506
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 9: they're five to ten.

1507
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 2: But I think five to seven at best. There they're listed,

1508
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: heights should be Doug Plutie, that's.

1509
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 7: What you say is shorter than Kyler Murray.

1510
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, at least short stack on that side, can

1511
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: move about as quick as anybody I've ever seen at

1512
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. No, he's had his own a c

1513
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 2: L sue. Maybe he's not exactly the.

1514
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: Same well, consistency issues. One, video game clauses that were

1515
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,799
Speaker 1: reportedly in his contract and they were moved from his contract.

1516
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: That's a fact. That's a fact, Kevin. He's a video

1517
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: game on the field. Sometimes he'd rather be playing one

1518
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: off the field in the meantime.

1519
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: Nobody can entrust this guy. One because of his injury

1520
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: history and two but just because of his his dedication.

1521
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,959
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that does have talent despite

1522
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: his height, we know that he can play.

1523
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: He's had moments, Yeah, he's had real moments in this

1524
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: league where he looked like he could be a dominant

1525
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: quarterback if he had the right motivation or he just

1526
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: put it all together.

1527
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: So I mean, I mean it sounds like and if

1528
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring it back to you know, to

1529
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: local and talk about Los Angeles and a figure who

1530
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: was brought in to a team who has all the

1531
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: talent in the world and this is his proven year,

1532
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton, and he hadn't proved a damn thing.

1533
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: No, So you know, it started well the first month

1534
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 2: and a half or so, DeAndre and was the best

1535
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: version of himself, and then there was that steep decline.

1536
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was like and so I parallel that

1537
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray, a guy that has a lot of

1538
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 1: physical talent but for whatever reason, can't put it together.

1539
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: So are you humble enough? Maybe you sign a one

1540
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: year contract and you sign on with the team to

1541
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: see if maybe you can find something. But the problem is,

1542
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: do you actually have it in you? That's the issue

1543
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: that I have with Kyler Murray. I don't know if

1544
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: he actually this motivating factor of signing a one year

1545
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: proven deal will even do anything because I just don't

1546
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: know if he had as some would say, he has

1547
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: that dog in him.

1548
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: That dog in him or that hunger in him. Could

1549
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,560
Speaker 2: somebody else bring it out of him at least more consistently.

1550
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: It's not like there hasn't been times where he's had

1551
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: emotional moments. What was it the Hail Mary play? The

1552
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 2: Kyler what do they call it? The play he threw

1553
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: to DeAndre Hopkins to win that game at the very end.

1554
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: Well, they play against the Raiders where he ran around

1555
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: for forty five straight minutes before you found a receiver.

1556
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 2: He's had real moments where you feel like this guy's

1557
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: a competitor. He wants to win out there. This means

1558
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 2: everything to him. How many coaches has he gone through

1559
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 2: over the years?

1560
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: A lot?

1561
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 3: Well?

1562
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: One, I mean the coach he started with was the

1563
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: guy that he rode with in college. Yeah, I mean

1564
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: that was it was hand picked for Cliff Kingsbury, that's true,

1565
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: and that didn't work out. So it's not going to

1566
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: work between those two. I mean, what are we doing?

1567
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: What if it's just maturity? Though? How old is he now?

1568
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: Probably twenty eight? I would say he is twenty twenty eight.

1569
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: I think if you could pair him up in the

1570
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 2: right situation, you still might be able to bring out

1571
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: the best in him. And the best in him is

1572
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl quarterback. Honestly, he still has the wheels enough.

1573
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: The bar for a Pro Bowl quarterback is pretty low

1574
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: these days.

1575
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: Is this about your doer? How dare you ca?

1576
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean not necessary? I mean yes, but not necessarily

1577
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: just him? So tell me, Adam, So here are the

1578
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: obvious open jobs here in the NFL when it comes

1579
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: to quarterback? Can you tell me? Yeah? You tell me

1580
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: where he fits. So we have the Falcons, we have

1581
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: the Jets, we have the Steelers, nobody fits with, we

1582
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 1: have the Browns, we have the Dolph and obviously the Cardinals,

1583
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: which are going to are not going to be in

1584
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: play for him because he's going to be on the market.

1585
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: So Falcons, Jets, Steelers, Browns, Dolphins. I guess you could

1586
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: throw the Colts in there too. Man, if he's a

1587
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: stop gap there, well.

1588
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: If you're saying Steelers, that also brings up another name and.

1589
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers there correct?

1590
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 2: Now he was coming back of Mike Tomlin? Was there?

1591
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: Does he want white Tomlin?

1592
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: He had a lot of white Tomlin for over a decade.

1593
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: So do you want to get do you want to

1594
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: dip back into that?

1595
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: Who was the guy they pulled in from the Packers

1596
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: to be the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. Was

1597
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 2: he offense or defense?

1598
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 10: Here?

1599
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: Was defen Jeff Hafley was a defensive coordinator. That doesn't

1600
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: former college head coach at Boston College.

1601
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: That doesn't help you there? What if hear me out,

1602
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: he goes to a place to be a backup and

1603
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: he can kind of go through the Sam Darnold thing

1604
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: where he clears the cobwebs, He gets all the ghosts

1605
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: out someplace with a good offensive coordinator, Like, what if

1606
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: he's just playing behind Rock Party, What if he's just

1607
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: playing behind Justin Herbert.

1608
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: Matt Jones, who's not getting traded now. So I don't

1609
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: think he has a spot.

1610
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel with the Chargers can rejuvenate Kyler Murray, sure

1611
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 2: somebody like that. Maybe he doesn't need to start right away.

1612
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: Maybe he needs to take a year off. He can

1613
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: play more video games, but he can also study more

1614
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: tape as the backup. He's got more time on his hands.

1615
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: We need to confiscate the PS five. No more video games, Kyler,

1616
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: get your head in the playbook.

1617
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wouldn't give up on him yet.

1618
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

1619
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: No, it is still young, still twenty eight years old.

1620
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: I guess there's still a room for redemption. So we'll

1621
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: see what happens. It is fn A on FSR coming

1622
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: up next. Chris Paul, the point God has called it

1623
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,919
Speaker 1: a career after twenty one seasons. So where does exactly

1624
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: does he rank when it comes to the best point

1625
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: guards in the history of the sport. We'll talk about

1626
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: that coming up next on FNA on FSR.

1627
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,040
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1628
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:46,519
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1629
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:51,600
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1635
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 2: App Lrip the point God. He's retired from the NBA

1636
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: CP three. He's out, but he had a hell of

1637
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: a career. Didn't end up getting that championship. Unfortunately, things

1638
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 2: didn't work out in his swan song farewell tour with

1639
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 2: the Clippers this season. But he's still one of the

1640
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: greatest players ever no, and definitely one of the greatest

1641
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: point guards of all time, and a lot of the

1642
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: talk with CP three centers around, well, who was better

1643
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 2: between him and John Stockton. That's usually the conversation because

1644
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: you can easily balance those two in their accolades and

1645
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: not winning a championship along the way.

1646
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: They both played. I think Stockton played twenty years, so

1647
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean they both played pretty much the same amount of.

1648
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: Time, Stockton was still rocking those high shorts, of those

1649
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: short shorts.

1650
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: In two thousand and four, he was still rocking the

1651
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: short shorts.

1652
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he still had a going. He played a

1653
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 2: cup couple of years at the end. When Malone left,

1654
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,799
Speaker 2: he still stayed in Utah. I would say, for my money,

1655
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: CP three is better, and I'll give you a couple

1656
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 2: of different reasons. First of all, John Stockton was a

1657
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: pick and roll merchant with a Hall of fame, a

1658
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer next to him at all times. In

1659
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 2: Carl Malone, CP three did not have that benefit. He

1660
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 2: changed teams oh Tyson challenges on a Hall of famer

1661
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: and played with good players Blake Griffinske Griffin is.

1662
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: Probably going to be a Hall of Famer, Yeah.

1663
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: But he didn't have one guy that was consistently the

1664
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 2: best in his position, the same guy for eighteen years

1665
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: or whatever it was.

1666
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 1: They played together, and I think it's hard to argue.

1667
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: You know, Karl Malone was going to be a great player,

1668
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: a Hall of famer. Now. John Stockton certainly helped him,

1669
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: obviously it worked together, yeah, but he independently would have

1670
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: been a great, an all time great. Without John Stockton

1671
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: and that's no disrespect to John Stockton at all, it's

1672
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: just the truth.

1673
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,799
Speaker 2: I agree he made Stockton more than Stockton.

1674
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: Me Malone, I would agree with that notion.

1675
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: Yes, John Stockton also he could not score the basketball,

1676
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 2: or at least didn't enough. Yeah, at the highest level,

1677
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: and he left. I think part of the problem they

1678
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: had at times is he was too unselfish for his own.

1679
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: Good way, too passive. I agree, one thousand percent assist.

1680
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 2: Happy, Yeah, Kevin, you want to guess how many thirty

1681
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 2: point games John Stockton had in his career? Quiz hotshot,

1682
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 2: that long ass career that he had. Do you want

1683
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 2: to get how many? All right, it's not that bad man,

1684
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 2: there's try again. Yeah, I got disrespective, Like I'm just saying,

1685
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 2: you know, eleven yeah, yeah, right in between there eleven

1686
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,839
Speaker 2: thirty point games CP three had I think seventy seven. Yeah,

1687
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 2: it's not close.

1688
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean CP three had seasons where he was averaging

1689
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,480
Speaker 1: twenty two and eleven assists and like three steals.

1690
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 2: And I think we both felt like he should have

1691
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: won MVP in two thousand and eight over Kobe because

1692
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 2: he was doing more with less with that New Orleans team.

1693
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: I agree with thousand percent, and it all came down

1694
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: to like one game towards the end of the regular season.

1695
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: For some reason, the Lakers won, and they decided, based

1696
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: on that one game to give it to Kobe Bryant.

1697
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 2: It was complete recency bias, and they ended up with

1698
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: a better record. But you look at who was on

1699
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 2: CP three's team and everything he had to do out

1700
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: there versus Kobe. I'm not saying Kobe wasn't deserving or

1701
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 2: it wasn't somewhat close, but I would have taken CP three.

1702
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: I told him that on the phone one time as

1703
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: an intern. He was calling in for I don't know,

1704
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 2: Hartman and Myers or something like that back in the day,

1705
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 2: and I told him I would have voted for you

1706
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: as a thanks man. I appreciate it. I appreciate it, man,

1707
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 2: But you know I didn't have a vote, so sorry

1708
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: you guys.

1709
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's gonna he's he's definitely one of

1710
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: the all time great to the point guard position. I

1711
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 1: think he's gonna ultimately end up being underappreciated because he's

1712
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: gonna be seen as more of an afterthought. Oh, he

1713
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: was part of the Lob City Clippers. Our fun but

1714
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: never won anything, you know. Okay, but no, I'm not

1715
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: saying that's fair at him, but I'm saying that's what

1716
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna get labeled with.

1717
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna remember most is that, aside from the

1718
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: Lobbs City era and he had the bad meltdown in

1719
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: that game five, you know, case see that nobody is

1720
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 2: gonna forget even though there's a bad call in there too.

1721
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: Exactly where do you think we get this sound from?

1722
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: That's a bunch of crap.

1723
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: Postgame with Doc Rivers after that, that's a bunch of crap,

1724
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 2: and y'all know it. It's the twenty eighteen Houston Rockets

1725
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 2: where he gets hurt the last two games of that

1726
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 2: series against the KD Golden State Warriors. That's an all

1727
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: time what if? More F and A on FSR.

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Speaker 4: Next, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Final Hour,

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01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Saturday, Kevin Figures Adam Ausland with you guys.

1730
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 1: Feel free hit us up on x at K fig

1731
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: one is where you can find me. You can find

1732
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: Adam at Follow Adam A. Thanks to our friend Lou

1733
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: Murray joining us last hour talking about the NBA All

1734
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 1: Star festivities. Highlight for me the fact that he says

1735
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: on a Friday night after the All Star Celebrity Game

1736
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: and the Rising Stars, you think he's going out tear

1737
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: up the town. Nope, sitting his ass at home on

1738
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: his couch.

1739
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 2: I mean, man, that's a true pro, that's right. That's

1740
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 2: a guy who's committed to his craft. He knows he

1741
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: has to be bushy tailed and bright eyed tomorrow and

1742
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: make sure he's out his game for the three point contest,

1743
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: the dunk contest, Does the skills competition still happening?

1744
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't even I liked it.

1745
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 2: But when they kept the same format and the exact

1746
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: same little gauntlet you went through obstacle course, because you

1747
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 2: could compare eras, you could compare guys from years past,

1748
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: and you used to get like Kobe and Wade in that.

1749
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: That's the thing. So that's the issue. And that's and

1750
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: talk about just All Star games in general, which we'll

1751
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: get into in a moment, and as to whether or

1752
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: not they really serve a purpose anymore, but for the

1753
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: NBA specifically, more so than the game, knowing that the

1754
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: stars don't really come out. They're there, they're participating, but

1755
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: we know that they play kind of at half staff

1756
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: for the most part.

1757
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 2: They're looking in the shadows. They're there somewhere.

1758
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: Essentially, All Stars Saturday at times was even more of

1759
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: a marquee event than the actual All Star Game on Sunday. Yes,

1760
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: and that has taken a precipitous drop over the last

1761
01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: few years.

1762
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: And that means that's, you know, unforgivable to some degree,

1763
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 2: because because that was exciting and unforgivable, that was what

1764
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 2: we lived for, because the individual competition going on there.

1765
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the Dunk Contest and you had all

1766
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 1: stars left and right. I mean, obviously you go way

1767
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: back in the day and we're talking about you know,

1768
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and Dominique Wilkins. I'm not even talking about

1769
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: that level of star. I was talking about, you know,

1770
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard and Nate Robinson, Or how about this Adam.

1771
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: How about guys that actually get off of the bench

1772
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: and actually playing games. That'd be nice. How about recognizable

1773
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: names of the Utah Jazz for a few years, had

1774
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: a guy that was in the Dunk Contest for a

1775
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: couple of years, and the guy literally did not play.

1776
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: He was only on their roster. Just so we can

1777
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: go to the Dunk contest. I don't even remember what

1778
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: his name is.

1779
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: Well, we've gotten the same guy the last three years.

1780
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: Who's the dunk savant expert mac Mechlong. That's who's been

1781
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: satisfying things. And to be honest, he's so good it

1782
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: almost doesn't matter that he doesn't actually playing real NBA

1783
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 2: games and he's still a G leaguer All Star out there.

1784
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: He's like a quadruple A type of guy. He's too

1785
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: good for the G League, but he's not good enough

1786
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: to be an NBA player because he's too small.

1787
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: Okay, but that's a problem though, right Oh, if this

1788
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: All Star weekend, if we want to watch a marquee event,

1789
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: which the dunk contest is, is not too much to

1790
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: ask that to be a player that people have actually

1791
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: heard of.

1792
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 2: The problem is, we've seen so many of these dunks.

1793
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: How do you give us anything new to get us

1794
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: up and out of our seats? And I think these

1795
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 2: guys don't want to fail at doing that because it

1796
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,480
Speaker 2: would hurt their brands, it would hurt their marketing, their endorsements.

1797
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: It's the same reason like the one on one contest

1798
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 2: has always been this like the ultimate holy grail. If

1799
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: you could get guys to do that on an All

1800
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 2: star weekend. You know who's doing it right now? The

1801
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: girls on the show on TNT from the w NBA.

1802
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: What is it all?

1803
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: I saw? Yeah? I saw I like a clip of

1804
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: Kelsey Plump crossing up somebody pretty furious the other day.

1805
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that is the ultimate. That's the ultimate, and

1806
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 2: we'll never get any NBA.

1807
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: And the woman who she did, who just broke every

1808
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: single ankle and ligament in her body, just kind of

1809
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: turned after she got crossed over. It turned ryan and

1810
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 1: looked like she was confused, offensive foul right like, what

1811
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: you think happened? I don't know. I just saw a

1812
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: plot of smoke go right by you. What's you think? Happy?

1813
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 3: Like?

1814
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 2: That was an incredible play and the guys have too

1815
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 2: much to lose to do that. We'll never get it.

1816
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:38,759
Speaker 2: But not even getting marquee names in the Dunk contest

1817
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: anymore is shameful. They should at least get out there

1818
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 2: and try because we thought it had jumped the shark

1819
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: and there was nothing else. There was nothing more that

1820
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 2: we had seen and then in this might have been

1821
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, now twenty eighteen. The zach Lavine Aaron Gordon

1822
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 2: dunk contest happened. It was incredible and they took it

1823
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 2: up a level and for my money, is the best

1824
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 2: dunk contest because they were on their game. They were

1825
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: getting everything the first time, which is very important. You

1826
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 2: got to convert that first dunk. If they give it away,

1827
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: but they miss the dunk and then they have to

1828
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: redo it and they have a minute or whatever to

1829
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: get the dunk in, it's not the same. It doesn't work.

1830
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 2: Remember Chris Birdman Anderson taking forever out there. That's part

1831
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 2: of the problem. But it's it's crazy that it's gotten

1832
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 2: to this point where who's the only guy that I

1833
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 2: know that's gonna be out there? Jackson Hages said Hayes

1834
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:35,440
Speaker 2: with the Lakers.

1835
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: A backup center for the Lakers.

1836
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 2: A seven footer, which usually doesn't go Overwhell in the

1837
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 2: dunk contest because it doesn't just look as aesthetically pleasing

1838
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 2: as a shorter guy doing it.

1839
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Now, Adam, you work the NBA. You know as your career,

1840
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: you are do the pregame, halftime and postgame show for

1841
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: the LA Clippers. You do your Clippers Talk podcast. So

1842
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: can you tell me other than Jackson Hayes, who these

1843
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: other guys actually are Kashat Johnson. We played for yeah,

1844
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: Carter Bryant, and we know Jason Richardson. He's Jason Richardson's son.

1845
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: Had had a decent year last year with Michigan State.

1846
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: Well, but Jason Richardson had some great dunk test throwouts.

1847
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: And maybe look, and Jason's a rookie. I think these

1848
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: guys everybody else other than Jackson Age, I think all

1849
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: these guys are rookies. But none of them are really

1850
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: playing all that much either, so they're not even household names.

1851
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1852
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 2: Any of them were in the Rising Stars competition.

1853
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: No one of them was okay. But that that speaks,

1854
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,799
Speaker 1: that speaks volumes, speaks giant volumes.

1855
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 2: We can't even get. The point was before you get

1856
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 2: this pipeline of young guys that don't care, that don't

1857
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,719
Speaker 2: have all the endorsement deals yet, that aren't so worried

1858
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: about losing a dunk contest to somebody else and getting

1859
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: edged out and it hurting their branding. And I think

1860
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: that's the real reason why Lebron never did it back

1861
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 2: in the day. I know what rich Paul's saying. Now

1862
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: they all say it was rigged for him. And look,

1863
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 2: some might because they hate Lebron James so much, but

1864
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 2: I don't think they would at that time, not.

1865
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: Back then, not two thousand and five.

1866
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 2: They found him very likable. Yeah, in fact, it seemed

1867
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 2: like his brand was in a much better state than

1868
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 2: like Kobe Bryant. At that time, Kobe was the most

1869
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: sure polarizing guy and Lebron was just this kid on

1870
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 2: his way up. And look at all this talent, and

1871
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: he's the best athlete we've ever seen, and this is fun.

1872
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: He's doing it in Cleveland, where he's from. Akron, So

1873
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 2: I don't buy that at all. But it's it's really

1874
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 2: perplexing that we can't get the young guys now, is it?

1875
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 2: Because even the young guys now, the marketing opportunities, the

1876
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 2: social media, it's so big. Just coming into the league

1877
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 2: where you had you didn't have to prove as much

1878
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,799
Speaker 2: to get these deals, to get these endorsements. Now guys

1879
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: come in. I mean, there's all kinds of different outlets

1880
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: in different ways. You can get paid by doing marketing

1881
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: for somebody else.

1882
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 1: I mean you have now over the last couple of years,

1883
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 1: you got nil. I mean you're getting paid before you

1884
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: even make it if you were if you were one

1885
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: and done in college, you get paid before you even

1886
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: come to the NBA. They got endorsements locked up already.

1887
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: Maybe that's part of the problem, because I got to

1888
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 2: think they invited way more guys that turn them down

1889
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 2: for some reason, and this is what we're left with.

1890
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely now when it comes to I would say

1891
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: when it comes to just all Star festivities in general,

1892
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: we've kind of seen a change, a seed change in

1893
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 1: all of the professional sports, with the exception of Major

1894
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: League Baseball, everybody has changed their format. The NHL has

1895
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: changed their format the last few years. The Pro Bowl

1896
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 1: is not even the Pro Bowl anymore. It's a flag

1897
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: football whatever hell they do, which is what.

1898
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 2: We used to call it. Anyways during the Pro Bowl.

1899
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 1: It just mortally is legitimately of that. And the NBA

1900
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,719
Speaker 1: has changed. It seems like every year the NBA finds

1901
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 1: some way to try to tweak their All Star Game.

1902
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: And if you have to work this hard to try

1903
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 1: to put tweaks to something. And again, I with the

1904
01:29:55,760 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 1: full acknowledgment, it's not going away. It's TV. It's whether

1905
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: it's ratings or not. As parties is built into these

1906
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: TV packages. It's not going to go away, but you

1907
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: just wonder if the All Star Games at this point

1908
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 1: in time actually serve their purpose because back in the day,

1909
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: you know, before you had cable and satellite and League

1910
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: Pass for a lot of people. And I'll speak for myself, Adam,

1911
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even have cable. I was a slave too.

1912
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 1: I watched Laker games that came on locally on Channel

1913
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 1: nine and which weren't even home games. It was just

1914
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 1: road games on the Lakers and whatever NBC put on

1915
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 1: as their national game of the week, and sometimes they'd

1916
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: have double or even quadrupleheader sometimes on a Saturday or

1917
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:33,759
Speaker 1: a Sunday afternoon.

1918
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 2: That's what I had too until like two thousand and three.

1919
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was it. That was so if I

1920
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: wanted the chance to be able to see Michael Jordan

1921
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 1: or Patrick Ewing or David Robinson, I had to hope

1922
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: that they were playing on NBC on a given weekend

1923
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: or I knew I was going to be able to

1924
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: see them on All Star Weekend. Well, now that doesn't matter.

1925
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: We can if you don't have cable or streaming or

1926
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: whatever else, you got the internet, so you can watch

1927
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: highlights of these guys left and right. They post up

1928
01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: the entire game recap. You know, they'll take an entire

1929
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 1: game and we're condensed it to twenty minutes or so

1930
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,520
Speaker 1: and put it on YouTube. The NBA does it themselves

1931
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 1: and you can go back and watch every single highlight.

1932
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 1: So it's just not the world is different. It's the

1933
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 1: novelty of being able. Oh I get to see all

1934
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 1: these great players all in one place at one time.

1935
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: It just doesn't matter anymore.

1936
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 2: It's gone. I think these games have outlived their purposes

1937
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 2: because of that access you talk about. Lob Murray brought

1938
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: it up earlier too. We're spoiled. We are all these guys.

1939
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 2: We can see them in a multitude of ways through

1940
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 2: social media now. I mean some of them might be

1941
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 2: on cameo and you can get them to sing you

1942
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 2: happy Birthday or something like that. It's oversaturated. It's it's

1943
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 2: to the point where I think, yeah, we're like the

1944
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 2: one percenters of sports fans. We live in this in

1945
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 2: this time where we get to see everything all the time.

1946
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 2: With League Pass, with the NFL Sunday Ticket, you can

1947
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 2: follow your team and never miss anything. So it doesn't

1948
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 2: make it as special like it used to be. I'll

1949
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 2: take the trade off. I'm fine with it. But that's

1950
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 2: what's reduced the intrigue to All Star games and the

1951
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 2: collection of superstars altogether at once for people like us

1952
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 2: growing up, who maybe only saw that at the All

1953
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 2: Star Game.

1954
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so what do we have now is

1955
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 1: kind of just a it's like a bastardized vestige of

1956
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: what used to be kind of great and hollowed and look,

1957
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 1: it has its flaws. You talked about that in the

1958
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: opening segment of the show about how people saying that

1959
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: these guys don't play defense. They didn't play defense back

1960
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,560
Speaker 1: in the back in the heyday, when people claim that

1961
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 1: they actually did, but it was just different, the novelty

1962
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: was different, and I think that more than anything else.

1963
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 1: You talked about us being a little bit older, and

1964
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't appeal to people who are not children

1965
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: at this point in time, But I also think just

1966
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 1: the fact that you can see all these guys as

1967
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: often as you can see them, there might be even

1968
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 1: adults back then who are into it who wouldn't be

1969
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 1: into it now because huh, I can see Winby on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

1970
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Every day of the week doesn't matter.

1971
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, I haven't missed a Clippers game in

1972
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 2: seven years or eight years or something like that. There

1973
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 2: are people out there, and that's because I work for

1974
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 2: the team. There are people out there. You don't got

1975
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 2: to work for the team to never miss a game

1976
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 2: of your favorite team anymore. If you want to see

1977
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 2: those games, there's a way. So I mean back in

1978
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 2: the day, I remember going to a Circuit City that

1979
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 2: had NFL Sunday ticket while you're dating yourself all the

1980
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 2: way demo on an old TV, just so I could

1981
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 2: go and watch the Carolina Panthers game and switch the

1982
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 2: channel because they had Sunday ticket. That was how I

1983
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 2: do it.

1984
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: That's how you do it right there.

1985
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 2: I remember I distinctly watching them beat the Indianapolis Colts

1986
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 2: in the two thousand and three season where they went

1987
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 2: onto the Super Bowl in a big game on the

1988
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 2: road in Indy and them going off and beating them

1989
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 2: at Circuit City. That's what I had to do to

1990
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 2: get that game.

1991
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: Nobody on Circuit City after you was sitting there for

1992
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,560
Speaker 1: about forty five minutes, say like, hey son, stop you

1993
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: buying the TV or what I.

1994
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 2: Just gotta make sure I get out of the grass

1995
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 2: is looking pretty good on this television.

1996
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,600
Speaker 1: Well what you gotta do? I mean, just you just

1997
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 1: grab you the cheapest you grab you, like a pair

1998
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: of double A batteries, Like I'm a paying customer. Hold on,

1999
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: I just haven't checked out yet.

2000
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, by the possible there a gift card

2001
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 2: or something. I mean, all the guys working there were

2002
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 2: young enough they knew what I was up to, and

2003
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 2: they didn't care.

2004
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm making minimum wage. I can I

2005
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 1: can give a rip.

2006
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 2: Go ahead, They're gonna throw me out a Circuit City

2007
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 2: like I'm DJ Jazzy Jeff. I mean, the place was

2008
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 2: going under anyways right on that time. It was about

2009
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 2: to go defunct. Anyways.

2010
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 1: By the way, for those who don't know what Circuit

2011
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 1: City was, you know back in the day, you know,

2012
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: when dinosaurs roam the earth, you actually have to like

2013
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 1: physically walk into stores to buy things like CDs. And

2014
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: if you want me to tell you what a CD is,

2015
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 1: I can really go down a giant rabbit hole when

2016
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 1: it comes to this order thing trying to talk to

2017
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 1: these kids at him. So I probably should just stop

2018
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: right there.

2019
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 2: Why do you tell them about the CD cleaner we

2020
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 2: used to have. You'd use like you're grinding cheese onto

2021
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 2: your something like that.

2022
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 7: I don't know what that is.

2023
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: Let me start talking about VHS tapes. What do you mean,

2024
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 1: brire a dinosaur?

2025
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, did you ever go to border?

2026
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 9: So listen to CDs or listen to like the thirty

2027
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 9: second like samples, the.

2028
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 1: Sample CD that was that I remember the problem was.

2029
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:23,719
Speaker 2: The NFL Sunday ticket was only available through like TVO.

2030
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 2: You had to have a physical cable box to get it.

2031
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 2: Direct TV. You had to have direct TV to get

2032
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 2: it right. You couldn't just stream it online through direct

2033
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: TV back then. You know what, You could get it

2034
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 2: if you had a VPN scrambler and you lived in Australia.

2035
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 2: You could then watch NFL Sunday Ticket online, which I

2036
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 2: did try many times.

2037
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: But eventually I was gonna say, I didn't know you

2038
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 1: were you were in Australia, Adam. That's funny how you

2039
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: were able to get that work.

2040
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2041
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 3: What the Internet?

2042
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 2: They figured out a way to block my VPNs that

2043
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: I threw up at them. Yeah, I was tho. Part

2044
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 2: was it was very akin to the napster stuff and

2045
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 2: everything going on back then and trying to be a

2046
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 2: hacker like you're Angelina and Joe Lee.

2047
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, the Baseball All Star Game, which

2048
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 1: people still allowed, is like it's the best, it still

2049
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that it's great, and honestly it's for

2050
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 1: the same reasons. Now, I appreciate what Fox has done

2051
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 1: to try to jazz it up a little bit, micing

2052
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 1: up the pitchers and micing up players in the outfield.

2053
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 2: They're regular season games now.

2054
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 1: They are right the playoff games at that that's happened,

2055
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 1: and that's raised the eye of a lot of fans. Great.

2056
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:33,679
Speaker 2: Honestly, I agree to that stuff.

2057
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,719
Speaker 1: It's also baseball is also you just can't half asset,

2058
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, So that's it's really easy to do it

2059
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 1: in basketball, depending on you know the position what you're doing.

2060
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: In football, you can kind of half ass a little bit.

2061
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: You can kind of fire off, half ass in your

2062
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: stance and not really engage with an offensive lineman. If

2063
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: you're a tackle, you cannot really run a nice route.

2064
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 1: If you're a receiver baseball, you were the throwing a pitcher,

2065
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 1: you're not. You're swinging or you're not.

2066
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 2: It lends itself to an exhibition game because you can

2067
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 2: go just as hard as you would in the regular

2068
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 2: season game and there's not any more you know, possibility

2069
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 2: of you getting hurt out there. You're not risking much

2070
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 2: unlike in the NBA, Unlike in the NFL. That's that's

2071
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 2: the difference.

2072
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 1: Hockey.

2073
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 2: Well, those guys, I mean they're crazy and oh yeah,

2074
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 2: they're wired differently. I don't even know what they changed

2075
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 2: it too. Have they gone USA versus three or a bunch?

2076
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've reduced the number of players on the ice. Okay,

2077
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 1: so they've gotten a little gimmicky the last couple of

2078
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 1: years themselves.

2079
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 2: So it looks like whatever the version of NFL Blitz was,

2080
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,759
Speaker 2: but for hockey back in the day, you remember that game.

2081
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: You could say that now, I don't know if there's

2082
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 1: a giant lightning both that will strike somebody down if

2083
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 1: they are they're on a breakaway towards a you know,

2084
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: an empty net.

2085
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 2: God doesn't want you to get that.

2086
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: That's like something that would happen in NFL Blitz back

2087
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: in the day.

2088
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 2: I don't know if that happens in annoying as hell

2089
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 2: every time, and it ended with an interception when the

2090
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 2: lightning came down. Come on, I was a good throw.

2091
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 2: I don't care if the lightning stopped it ridiculous. I

2092
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 2: don't think there's any fix. I think we're too spoiled.

2093
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 2: I think it's just different. The world has changed, and

2094
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 2: that's okay. It doesn't mean you have to hate on

2095
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 2: everything now and act like it was so much better

2096
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 2: back in the day. I do well.

2097
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 1: Now that we're old, we do. That's an obligation for us.

2098
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 10: To do that.

2099
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 2: I try to check myself when it comes to the

2100
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 2: nostalgia stuff and say, was it really that good or

2101
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 2: is it just nostalgia? Is it just member Baris Adam?

2102
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 1: Well, look, the Pro Bowl always sucked. Well. I was

2103
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: a kid and I watched the Pro Bowl. I was like,

2104
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,799
Speaker 1: I know what, the quality ain't that great, But it's football,

2105
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 1: and I got nothing else to do, so I'll watch it.

2106
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I used to say, with the

2107
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 2: changing rules with the NFL and not being able to

2108
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 2: touch quarterbacks, I used to say all the time, it's

2109
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 2: gonna end up looking just like the Pro Bowl does.

2110
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 2: At some point. I'm not saying we're there, We're not there.

2111
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 2: We're not there yet, because now it would have to

2112
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 2: look like actual flag football games, because that's what the

2113
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl has become. Maybe it looks like what a

2114
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl did in nineteen ninety five or something like that.

2115
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'd have to go back and watch.

2116
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 2: I still think there's way more physicality than there wasn't

2117
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:05,839
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl nineteen ninety five. Overall in the NFL,

2118
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 2: even with all the rules changes, maybe with how they

2119
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 2: treated quarterbacks, it's the same as that at least now.

2120
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 1: Yes, Joe Flackel, of all people, I think, came out

2121
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 1: and had a giant rant last week about how the

2122
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 1: league is being solved on quarterback. When quarterbacks start talking

2123
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 1: about how quarterbacks are being dealt with, dealt with the

2124
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: kid gloves, you know there's a problem. Come on, hit me, Yeah, basically,

2125
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: what is this?

2126
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 2: You soft fancies? Hit me? Hit men? Well, he would

2127
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 2: know he's played in like three different eras coming up next.

2128
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 2: You know, we can take your phone calls on this

2129
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 2: at eight seventy seven ninety nine on Fox if you

2130
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,839
Speaker 2: got some hard hitting opinions, harder hitting than the NFL

2131
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 2: does now about this subject matter. If our All Star games,

2132
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 2: should they just go away? Is it obsolete? Like it

2133
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 2: no longer serves its purpose anymore?

2134
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 1: They do anything for you?

2135
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Does it mean something to you? Does the Midsummer

2136
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 2: Classics still mean something to you? I don't know. Our

2137
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 2: times have just changed and we need to get with

2138
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,679
Speaker 2: the times here. But coming up, we will take your

2139
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 2: calls and talk about tanking in the NBA, because that

2140
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 2: has become a big issue and it is something I

2141
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 2: cannot defend anymore. Kevin, I was defending it earlier in

2142
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 2: the season. I can tell you defend this s We

2143
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,440
Speaker 2: will talk about it next here on FNA on FSR.

2144
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,640
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Speaker 2: All right, Kevin, you know I love the modern game

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Speaker 2: modern basketball.

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Speaker 1: If it amazing, then you don't know anything about basketball. Well,

2161
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 1: all these guys do is just run up and down

2162
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 1: the court and jack up three pointers.

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01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah right, and make the highest degree of difficulty shots

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01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 2: like we've never seen before that no can defend. Nope,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing you could do against them.

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01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But if these guys tried to play it

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01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: back in the day, I mean there's no I mean,

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01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: no one could see him. I mean, come on, you're

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01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: like you get we were talking about John Stockton earlier.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see John Stockton try to keep up

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01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,679
Speaker 1: with Steph Curry, Yeah, without trying to grab his jersey,

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01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 1: which is what he got away with doing, and all

2173
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 1: those guys got away with doing back back then.

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Speaker 2: They did. Steph Curry would also have to be guarded

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01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 2: from further out than John Stockton was ever used to

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01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 2: guarding anyone. And there's more space that you have to

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01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 2: cover in today's game which makes defense much tougher to

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01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 2: play because guys are stretching the floor much further than

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Speaker 2: they ever have before. That's the real issue. Give credit

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01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 2: to how guys and how the offenses have evolved. They've

2181
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 2: made it so difficult out there. But as much as

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Speaker 2: I love the modern game, and I do, I cannot

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01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 2: defend what's happening right now with tanking. Not to this degree,

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01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 2: not before the All Star break of a season. Are

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01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:41,640
Speaker 2: we talking about nine teams openly tanking. A third of

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01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 2: the NBA is tanking. This is a problem. This is

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01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 2: too much, This is too far. It's not late March,

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01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 2: it's not early April. We expect that, we see that

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01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 2: all the time. We have thirty five percent of the

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01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 2: season left, and there's a bunch of teams racing to

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01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 2: the bottom.

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Speaker 1: To what are we even playing games for? Like, what

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01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: are we even doing? Why are you rolling the ball

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01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: out there? I mean, fully justified for Utah and Indiana

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01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 1: to be fined by the NBA, for Utah to pull

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01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: two of their best players who at the time are

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01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 1: healthy now Triple j the needs situation or the growth whatever,

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Speaker 1: how long he's been dealing with that, and honestly, there

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Speaker 1: might be conspiracy around that. When they made the trade

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01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: with Memphis and they did his physical, did you know

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01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: that that might have been a thing that you might

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01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:28,639
Speaker 1: have to end up dealing with at a certain point.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past them to know that. Okay,

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01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. Probably Adam is probably not the case.

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01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 1: But I mean, I feel like they've kind of lost

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01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: any sort of benefit of the doubt because they're so

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01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 1: openly tanking at this point in time, because teams are

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01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 1: going out of the way to make sure they're not

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Speaker 1: putting a competitive product out there on the floor. I

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Speaker 1: can't put anything past these teams.

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Speaker 2: Well, because they also got fined by the NBA just

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01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,600
Speaker 2: last season correct for violating the player participation policy with

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01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 2: marketing and by.

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Speaker 1: The way, and to hear that, the owner of the

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01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz come out, He's like, well, we benched those players,

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01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 1: but we still won the game. So what are people

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01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: complaining again?

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Speaker 2: What the heck?

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01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:03,759
Speaker 1: Come on now?

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Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. The guys on the court obviously are

2221
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:10,599
Speaker 2: going to continue to play hard. That is not what

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01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 2: this is about. It's institutional, systemic tanking by organizations they

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01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 2: didn't want to win that game. They didn't play their

2224
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,599
Speaker 2: best players just because guys who weren't supposed to win

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01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 2: that game found a way because they don't care. They

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01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:27,719
Speaker 2: want to play hard, they want to give good tapes

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01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 2: to their coaches to get more minutes out there. Doesn't

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01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 2: mean what you did wasn't wrong. What's wrong is the

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01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 2: Miami Heat's somehow losing that game to you. Yet Baan

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01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,799
Speaker 2: Mountebayo coming out and being like, you can't lose games

2231
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:44,759
Speaker 2: to teams that are openly trying to lose. That shouldn't happen.

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01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 2: That was the black mark on their organization for losing

2233
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 2: to a team tried to lose and not playing their

2234
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 2: best players. But what happens Saturday night before that, Utah Orlando.

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01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 2: They're up by fifteen, and they don't play Marketing in

2236
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and they don't play Triple J and

2237
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 2: Marketnen had twenty seven points in twenty seven minutes, and

2238
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 2: they let Orlando come back and they win that game. Indefensible.

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01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 2: That is indefensible. Some of their defense was late. It's

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Speaker 2: so it was so bad and so blatant and so obvious.

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01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 2: You can't do that. You can't do it to that

2242
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 2: degree because I know what they're saying is, what's the

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01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 2: NBA gonna do change our substitution patterns. They can't come

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01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 2: here and coach and make the lineups if I don't

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01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 2: want to play somebody in the fourth quarter. What can

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01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,679
Speaker 2: they do about it? Technically, Well, apparently they can find

2247
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 2: you for what they called conduct detrimental to the league

2248
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 2: because it hurts the integrity.

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Speaker 1: Of the league.

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Speaker 2: And what it really hurts is the gambling and the

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Speaker 2: partnerships that they have that every league does with gambling

2252
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 2: now and the game offied gambling where they don't say

2253
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 2: over under, they do it a different way. And we

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01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 2: all know who the different outlets are for that. We

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Speaker 2: don't have to name them here, but that is what

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01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 2: I think has changed most. And the league is really

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01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 2: concerned about those partnerships because they've never been bigger, they've

2258
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 2: never embraced it more, they've never made more money off

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01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 2: of it, and that means your product better be on

2260
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 2: the up and up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know, I've seen multiple reports about

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01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 1: you know whether now there's owner outcry from certain owners

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01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: around the league that are upset that other owners are

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01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 1: tanking at this point, and what changes can the NBA

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01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 1: possibly make. And people are throwing out a bunch of

2266
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: different scenarios taking away pick protections, which I don't know.

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01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 1: That might help in some senses, but in others it

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01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 1: may not. If you have your own pick and you're

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01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: still trying to tank, so you have the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: get the first overall pick and it's not connected to

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01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 1: any sort of trait that you made, that it doesn't

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01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 1: really make a difference from that.

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01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 2: Standpoint, because for a perspective, Utah's picked this year's top

2274
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 2: eight protected. If it lands outside the top eight, they

2275
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 2: lose it to the Oklahoma City Thunder. So they need

2276
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 2: to make sure they're bad enough if they get a

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01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: top eight pick.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, reportedly, who's one of the ownership

2279
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 1: groups that's making a big stink about teams tanking this year,

2280
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, you know, because it will behoove them, you know,

2281
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 1: to get that pick. And by the way, if they're

2282
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 1: not asking Utah to do anything special, they're just asking, like,

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01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 1: you got healthy players, can you play them? Can you

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01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 1: actually put forth a good faith effort to try to

2285
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 1: win basketball games, which should be the goal for all

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01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:26,600
Speaker 1: of us. And if you want to say in a

2287
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 1: macro sense. Well, we're all trying to make sure that

2288
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 1: we win basketball games. We want to make sure that

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01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 1: we're competing for championships winning this year, and we only

2290
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 1: have fifteen victories through February fourteenth. We're not going to

2291
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs, so we should look at to the future.

2292
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 1: You're not wrong in a certain sense, but we're talking

2293
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: about the integrity of the game. You can at least

2294
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 1: put a good faith effort and put your players out

2295
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 1: there in a position where they can have a chance

2296
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 1: to win.

2297
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 2: Or you know what, then you should have traded more

2298
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 2: of your good players. I'm you're gonna do this that

2299
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 2: you should have traded your good players. You could have

2300
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 2: traded market in by now people are interested in him.

2301
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 2: You know, there was big talk two year years ago.

2302
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,520
Speaker 2: Now he has the new contract. We'll see what happens eventually.

2303
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 2: But if that's what it's all about, they're trying to

2304
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 2: almost have the best of both worlds. Where we have

2305
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:16,679
Speaker 2: these good players that unfortunately aren't good enough to make

2306
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:19,679
Speaker 2: us a championship level team, or to make us even

2307
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 2: to maybe a top six team. But if we could

2308
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 2: put them on ice for a little bit and we

2309
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 2: surround them with a few more good players, then we'll

2310
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 2: really have something. How do we get those other good

2311
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 2: players through the draft, because then you get them on

2312
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 2: controllable contracts, young guys there to pair with the guys

2313
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 2: they've already paid triple J on that contract, marketing on

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01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 2: that contract. Walker Kessler for them, is gonna be restricted

2315
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 2: free agent this season. He's probably gonna make thirty million

2316
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 2: per year or something like. They're trying to, you know,

2317
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 2: have their cake and eat it too, And Danny Ainge

2318
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 2: is smart and I get it, and I might do

2319
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 2: the exact same thing, because if there's only going to

2320
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,599
Speaker 2: be a fine Kevin, if that's all it's gonna.

2321
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,639
Speaker 1: Be to me and his money, for these billionaire owners,

2322
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 1: what's five hundred thousand dollars to them.

2323
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 2: I get what Bobby Marks was saying. And the Utah

2324
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 2: Jazz owner came out against him and retweeted it and say,

2325
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 2: you don't know what these finds are like and stuff.

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01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 2: But he's basically saying, it's just a tax. It's just

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01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 2: a tax. It's totally worth it in the end to

2328
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 2: end up with a top three pick, because last season

2329
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 2: they had one of the worst records, but they didn't

2330
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 2: get a top three pick. Utah got fifth, and that's

2331
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 2: part of the problem here. The NBA's first idea, in

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01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 2: their infinite wisdom to curb tanking was to flatten the odds.

2333
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 2: Was to say, no longer, well, the team with the

2334
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 2: worst record have a twenty five percent chance of getting

2335
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 2: the top pick in the draft. What we'll do is,

2336
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 2: we'll make sure the teams with the three worst records

2337
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 2: all have the same opportunity at fourteen percent tell me

2338
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 2: the odds, So therefore they won't be fighting as much

2339
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 2: to lose as badly. But all it did was open

2340
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 2: up the possibility of teams realizing that, oh, we don't

2341
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 2: need to have the worst record in the league.

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Speaker 1: We used to be bad enough to be in the lottery.

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01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dallas Mavericks last season, I think had the

2344
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 2: tenth worst record and they ended up with the number

2345
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,560
Speaker 2: one overall.

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01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: Pick, the worst odds of any team that didn't make

2347
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs slash play in and they ended up getting

2348
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. One idea that I had.

2349
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 1: And by the way, clearly Sean Sharania listens to the

2350
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:27,720
Speaker 1: F and A podcast back in the day in our show,

2351
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 1: because this is something I brought up four or five

2352
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 1: years ago, how about you find us to have a

2353
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: secondary playoff where you have the ten teams that don't

2354
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 1: make the postseason and the postseason being both to play

2355
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: in and the actual playoffs, and have them have a playoff,

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01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:43,839
Speaker 1: and whoever wins gets the top overall pick in the draft,

2357
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 1: and if you want to figure out the subsequent picks,

2358
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 1: we can find a way to figure it out. The

2359
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 1: way you incentivize the players. There's a purse, just like

2360
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,759
Speaker 1: for the n season tournament. And if you're a player

2361
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 1: and you say, well, I don't want to play extra games,

2362
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: because I brought this up on our local affiliate and

2363
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,799
Speaker 1: five to seventy LA Sports earlier on Friday, and Rodney

2364
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 1: per or colleague say like, what if I'm a player

2365
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 1: making fifty million dollars a year and I say I'm

2366
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 1: not playing extra games and if that's meaningless, and it's like,

2367
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 1: all right, well that's negotiated in the CBA. So if

2368
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: you choose to not play and you're healthy, then you

2369
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: will accept being fined for however many a game check

2370
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 1: for every single game that you miss in that postseason,

2371
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 1: and the subjects of suspension for contract conduct detrimental and

2372
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 1: you're cutting off your nose despite your face, because if

2373
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: you're playing for the first overall pick, you, as that

2374
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 1: star player making fifty million dollars, have a chance to

2375
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 1: improve the roster around you going into the following season

2376
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: with that first overall pick, whether it's that pick or

2377
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 1: whether that pick is being traded for other assets.

2378
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 2: All right, let me play Devil's advocate a little bit here.

2379
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:38,679
Speaker 1: I'm listening.

2380
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't know of that player. I don't think players

2381
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 2: are inclined to care about getting top draft picks, like

2382
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 2: they could get a draft pick for a guy that

2383
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 2: maybe takes away his minutes or replaces him or he

2384
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 2: feels like it's a threat. Also, what does it do

2385
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 2: for the rest of the regular season? Still, how does

2386
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 2: it fix the last couple of you think everybody else

2387
01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 2: is still gonna play hard? Or should we just have

2388
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:07,759
Speaker 2: it so well the last two months of the season

2389
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 2: you can opt in to this.

2390
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 1: Well, there's no one center what it does. There's no

2391
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: one centive for you to be to intentionally try to

2392
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: be bad. Because if we're all, if we're good, if

2393
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: we know, if you're look, if you're Memphis, Utah, New Orleans, Sacramento, Washington.

2394
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: You're not making the playoffs. You already know that now

2395
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 1: here in February. But they'll continuing to lose and running

2396
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 1: out lineups that can't compete is not gonna it's not

2397
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: gonna do anything for you, doesn't gain you anything. Yeah,

2398
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 1: so you might as well go out there and try

2399
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:37,919
Speaker 1: to play and try to put whether it's young players

2400
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 1: or whoever it is, put it put forth the best

2401
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 1: effort you possibly can to get better. Because maybe if

2402
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: you put in young players who don't have a lot

2403
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 1: of experience, guys who do have something to play for,

2404
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 1: who are playing for something. Once that postseason tournament starts

2405
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 1: and you're playing for the top overall pick, maybe that's

2406
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:54,760
Speaker 1: just extra tape. They're playing for themselves, they're playing for

2407
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 1: the team, and they're trying to improve their odds. It

2408
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:57,719
Speaker 1: might not even be for the star player.

2409
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also just think I don't know, lat Murray

2410
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 2: said it earlier. It's always been here. It hasn't been

2411
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 2: as drastic as this because the upcoming draft is going

2412
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 2: to be so loaded that more teams want in. Therefore

2413
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 2: they are taking Now this is a little bit of

2414
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 2: an outlier. Teams taking to this degree this early on

2415
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 2: this many teams it shit, But it's whether overstepping or

2416
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 2: over reaching to try to correct something that is just

2417
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,679
Speaker 2: going to be always present in sports.

2418
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 1: Well, it's always going to be present unless unless you

2419
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:34,639
Speaker 1: try to find a way to curb it or try

2420
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 1: to at least at best as you can to disincentivize it.

2421
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 1: So it might not be as drastic this year, So

2422
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 1: there might not be eight teams that are taking there

2423
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 1: might be four. All right, that's still teams that are

2424
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 1: not being non competitive and that's not something that you want.

2425
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. Don't let perfect be the

2426
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:51,640
Speaker 2: enemy a good if you can make it better to

2427
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 2: some degree, But there's always unintended consequences when you make

2428
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 2: these changes. Like when they flatten the odds and they

2429
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 2: thought that was going to fix it, it didn't. It

2430
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 2: actually made things worse in some ways. I do wonder,

2431
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:10,440
Speaker 2: like how many teams are organically doing it. Young teams

2432
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:14,480
Speaker 2: that realize we need to play these guys, get them experience.

2433
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 2: It's better for the overall health of our franchise in

2434
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 2: the future to do this rather than having these older guys.

2435
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 2: Because I could make that case for the Washington Wizards.

2436
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 1: Washington's doing a sort of masterfully. They're kind of they're

2437
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 1: kind of having their kick you needed too, because they

2438
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:32,839
Speaker 1: basically traded for two All Star players who are both injured.

2439
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 1: We knew they were injured, we knew that the chances

2440
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 1: of them returning this season were very slim. And and Trey

2441
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 1: Young since he he'll might return here soon, ish, I guess.

2442
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: But Anthony Davis, we know was done for a while.

2443
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 1: So it's like, look, we traded for two guys who

2444
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 1: are lynchpins to our future. We expect for those guys

2445
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: to be here now on the path to doing that.

2446
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 1: We have a really young team without a lot of experience.

2447
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 1: We'll get these young guys some experience and hopefully get

2448
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 1: ourselves a top draft pick that we can either trade

2449
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 1: or draft somebody else and have a good young nuclear

2450
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 1: around two veteran All Star players. That's kind of the

2451
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: if you were gonna do it this way, quote unquote intentionally, Tank,

2452
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like they're the ones who kind

2453
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: of figured out the secret sauce to it. Yeah, that's

2454
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: the way to do it now. Just pull guys out

2455
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 1: of games who are having twenty and ten in the

2456
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and benching them right.

2457
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 2: Ultimately, you know, I like the idea of bad teams

2458
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 2: having a light at the end of the tunnel and

2459
01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 2: something to look forward to after a really bad season,

2460
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 2: which is having a high draft pick but it's gotten

2461
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 2: out of control and you probably have to do something.

2462
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 2: I just don't want to see them overcreate, overcorrect, or

2463
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 2: make anything worse. And before there was this idea for

2464
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 2: a wheel where basically you get slotted knowing going into

2465
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 2: the season that we're in this range, like we're gonna

2466
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 2: pick one through six at the end of this season.

2467
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,360
Speaker 2: We don't know exactly which one, but one through six

2468
01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 2: somewhere in there, and the next year it's seven through twelve,

2469
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 2: and it's divided up basically, so every five years you

2470
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 2: have a range of around five different picks or six

2471
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 2: different picks that you could have that you know going

2472
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 2: into the season. So it takes away the idea of

2473
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 2: just totally tanking.

2474
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 1: So within that grouping, there's like ping pong balls or

2475
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 1: coin flips to determine once the time comes exactly where

2476
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:22,040
Speaker 1: you get slotted.

2477
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 2: It's it's complicated. I have opposed to it. The reason

2478
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 2: this came out back when Philly was doing the process.

2479
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 1: With saying five straight years, and.

2480
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 2: Somebody that was an executive out there came up with

2481
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 2: this model. And it is thorough and it's meticulous and

2482
01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 2: well researched, and it totally could work. It also is

2483
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 2: really convoluted and confusing, and you still have to get

2484
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 2: the owners on board. You got to present it in

2485
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 2: a digestible enough way to make them feel like this

2486
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 2: is the right move. But yeah, we'll see. I probably

2487
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 2: would still not do anything after this season, honestly, and

2488
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 2: just see how next season goes, because I think this

2489
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 2: is an outlier what's happening right now.

2490
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 1: This many teams, But in general, I think that this

2491
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:07,320
Speaker 1: is something the league has been dealing with, which is

2492
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 1: a major issue, and has been dealing with it for

2493
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 1: a long time. So I do it. If there's something

2494
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 1: that makes sense and you can make a change, I

2495
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 1: think that's something they should explore this offseason.

2496
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we got to explore Breeze three, which

2497
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 2: didn't sound right, but we need to get into the

2498
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 2: segment of Breeze three, and we're talking about halftime shows.

2499
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 2: I'm Adam Osley's Kevin figures this is f and A

2500
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 2: on FSR.

2501
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I wasn't listening, FNA Cotton.

2502
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 2: Remember for the best pregame show every weekend, be sure

2503
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:41,400
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2504
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 2: Every Saturday and Sunday morning. We will count you down

2505
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,520
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2506
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,640
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2507
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,520
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2508
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 2: Let's go not one, not.

2509
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 4: Two, but three.

2510
01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 1: Sports Entertainment. It's good, It's.

2511
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 2: Breeze three good.

2512
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 7: Okay.

2513
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 9: So the Backship Boys announced earlier this week, right after

2514
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 9: the Super Bowl, that they would be interested in singing

2515
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 9: their like setlist at the twenty twenty seven Super Bowl, right,

2516
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 9: And I would die if the Backsheep Boys actually were

2517
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 9: the halftime performance.

2518
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 7: I think I would just start crying. And I don't

2519
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:23,160
Speaker 7: even know if I could like get through it. It

2520
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 7: would be so emotional for me.

2521
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 9: So then I started thinking, if I could put together

2522
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:29,800
Speaker 9: a halftime show, who would I choose? Okay, So bon

2523
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,920
Speaker 9: Jovi obviously would be my first one, because obviously because

2524
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 9: it's me, have.

2525
01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 7: A nice day, and I imagine all the songs.

2526
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 9: So I feel like if, especially if it was held

2527
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 9: in like New England, because him and Robert Crafter like BFFs,

2528
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:45,080
Speaker 9: I feel like that would be a really good yes

2529
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 9: exactly whatever. And then the second one, I thought, like

2530
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 9: an orchestrator like James Duton Howard because I'm watching er

2531
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 9: right now and like so I mean like any kind

2532
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 9: of like orchestrator and like a symphony, and then they

2533
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 9: could play highlights kind of in the middle of like

2534
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 9: both teams or John Williams, play there.

2535
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 1: John Williams, you want John Tesh out there doing the

2536
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,160
Speaker 1: round ball rock well directing the orchestra.

2537
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:09,240
Speaker 2: He's doing that this weekend.

2538
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 9: I think it is really yes, okay, welcome, okay, well anyway,

2539
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 9: so like a like a famous like movie guy, and

2540
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 9: then just like with their like you know, favor their

2541
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 9: famous songs, but with football highlights from both teams.

2542
01:59:22,240 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 2: I got a movie guy, Trent Resnor. Get him out

2543
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 2: there and you can do some nine ish nails.

2544
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,320
Speaker 7: Too, James and Howard. John Williams like these.

2545
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 1: Bring his friend Marilyn Manson out there too. It gets

2546
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 1: really weird. Let's go look.

2547
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 2: Trent Resner is like an academy award winning music guy.

2548
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, producer, he's a producers an artist.

2549
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, so imagine that'd be cool like movie like, you know,

2550
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 9: kind of playing movie highlights in the background.

2551
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 7: And then the third one, I went like, bands from the.

2552
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 9: State that the super Bowl is being held, like California

2553
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 9: next year, So do like a red Hot Chili Peppers,

2554
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 9: Blink one eighty two and Sublime kind of thing and

2555
01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 9: make it kind of like a little festival.

2556
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 2: Vibe got news for you Zinger Sublimes, you know what

2557
01:59:58,680 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 2: I mean.

2558
01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:01,320
Speaker 9: Okay, they have shot to replace him and his son,

2559
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:07,840
Speaker 9: so bands like different bands from the state being helped.

2560
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:12,360
Speaker 10: Okay, So I would do all country for Keith Urban

2561
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:20,400
Speaker 10: and then maybe Brooks and Dunn and also Tim McGraw, what.

2562
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:23,720
Speaker 2: About Faith, Others, Faith.

2563
02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 1: Hell, Faith, hilp Fi.

2564
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:29,920
Speaker 2: Too much hit him up.

2565
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 1: I can rock with Eith. That will work for me.

2566
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 1: You know, since you mentioned country there, uh Mark, this

2567
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 1: wasn't on my list. But I like Luke Combs. I

2568
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind seeing Luke comes do do a set at

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. I think he'd be pretty pretty incredible.

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Speaker 1: I know we saw a couple of years ago at

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Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium. We had all of the Doctor Drake Katz,

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Speaker 1: But I would love to see Eminem do it solo,

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Speaker 1: and I like Dua Lipa. Actually now I think she

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Speaker 1: might be big enough here the next couple of years,

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Speaker 1: she might actually be able to headline a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So that's who I am.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't like her, you know, I'll go with since

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Speaker 2: I just brought him up, why not Tupac's hologram. Why

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Speaker 2: can't we have that? I've seen it at Coachella. It worked.

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Speaker 2: He can perform next to guys he was on albums

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Speaker 2: with like Snoop Dogg and Dre out There. Whatever, I'll

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Speaker 2: take that. I'll take my Deftone since I saw them

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Speaker 2: recently and you know, I'm like from Sacramento and that's

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Speaker 2: a big deal to me, and they're bigger than ever

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Speaker 2: and it's the weirdest thing. And Michael Jackson's hologram too,

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Speaker 2: since I know he already did it, we could just replay.

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Speaker 1: That Adam leading into the AI he thought the AI Revolution.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Adam. Good for you man, Thank you, Mark,

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Speaker 1: you Bree, thank you guys for listening. Projecting il next

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Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports or Radio.