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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he is Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, flowing to the gold Line Saw

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Speaker 1: and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's a little bit earlier than expected for

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Speaker 1: everybody here on a Monday edition of Talking Cowboys here

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Speaker 1: from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: As we've got plenty to break down. Just one more

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Speaker 1: preseason game on the docket for the twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. We've got three in the books. All three

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Speaker 1: have been losses, and we're gonna talk about that coming

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Speaker 1: up here just a couple of moments. So glad you're

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Speaker 1: with us on Talking Cowboys alongside professional football analysts, heck

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Speaker 1: My Harrison, we've got resident Super Bowl champion Isaiah stand

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Speaker 1: back in, the Great Rob Phillips, Cowboys insider, I'm Kyle

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Speaker 1: Yeoman's and gentlemen, well let's go. Let's take a step

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Speaker 1: back for a little bit. The Great Rob he Oh,

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Speaker 1: of course, that's the Great let's take a step back. You.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, I'm sorry your allergies acted up to you.

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Speaker 1: I had the double back crop. I thought my allergies

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Speaker 1: were tripping you double back. It was a little dusty,

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Speaker 1: it was a little yeah. Yeah, the Heppo filter not

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Speaker 1: working at great in my house apparently. No, you did

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Speaker 1: a great job right out with we're of course talking

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Speaker 1: about the Darren Woodson documentary that we alluded to on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: A Path to Safety the Deep Blue. Rob Phillips was

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Speaker 1: a huge hand and putting that together. Great shout out

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Speaker 1: to Mats as well as a fantastic job. Darren loved it, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what he said to you, Yeah, he said,

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Speaker 1: he told Nick he really enjoyed it. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: Keith Tucker, his best friend who's featured that part, reached out.

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Speaker 1: I think he enjoyed it. So that's that's always important.

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Speaker 1: You want to make sure that Isaiah and I were

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Speaker 1: just talking. You don't want to disrespect anybody, you want

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Speaker 1: to misrepresent anybody's life. That's that's something you really take seriously.

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Speaker 1: So I'm glad. I hope people watch it, hope people

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Up there. Yeah, if you if you missed

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Speaker 1: it on Saturday. You can go watch it right now

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Speaker 1: on demand. It's on Dallas Cowboys dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: go find it there in the video section. It's also

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Speaker 1: on YouTube correct, Yeah, on YouTube, Facebook, the website, anywhere

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Speaker 1: you want to go check it out. So plenty of

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Speaker 1: plenty of places. The Cowboys now app as well, which

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Speaker 1: you can download on your fire, your Broku. You can

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Speaker 1: watch it on the TV screen like you would any

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Speaker 1: other documentary, and it really is worth your time. It

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Speaker 1: is fantastic, very well done. Again Rob Phillips on that

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Speaker 1: and everybody that was involved with the Path to Safety.

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Speaker 1: Got a couple more I think one more documentary that's

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Speaker 1: coming out in the next week or two weeks or so.

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Speaker 1: Two more. Two more. Yeah, So there's one over Draft Stories.

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Speaker 1: It's called War Stories and it's about like inside Draft News. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really really cool. I got this very cool sneak peek

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Speaker 1: at that trailer. Man that's it's the guy that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: That is sick. Yeah, I heard it was and sultry. Actually,

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Speaker 1: who who might that be? I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Just check it out in two weeks. Sound good, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to get it We're in a box and

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Speaker 1: like two weeks from the from the podcast, you give

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Speaker 1: Heckma mad props for what his voice sounds like on

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Speaker 1: the documentary. Um, what's the other one that's coming out?

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Speaker 1: Jesse Holly, Right, Yeah, which some really cool that's really cool,

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Speaker 1: cool life and career story for him too, sounds really cool.

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Speaker 1: Two already out, we had The Path to Safety and

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Speaker 1: then also the Drew Pearson documentary, which is such awesome,

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Speaker 1: super fantastic, So lots to catch up on. If you

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Speaker 1: want to binge Dallas Cowboys, you can watch Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: You can see our interview with Darren Woodson that was

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Speaker 1: last Thursday. But let's talk about going on what we

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Speaker 1: saw binge watching wise on Saturday, and that was the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Houston Texans. Is the Cowboys fall twenty

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Speaker 1: to fourteen? There? Now oh and three? In the preseason, Rob,

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Speaker 1: you would like to get a couple of wins, you

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Speaker 1: really would just to kind of get the ball rolling.

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Speaker 1: out of Saturday Night. Definitely did Garrick Hilbert win three

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Speaker 1: in there quick. Is that? Is that something to take

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Speaker 1: note in Isaiah absolutely, especially in a quote unquote dress rehearsing, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was that straight saying man, you know, a night

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Speaker 1: think so. Yeah. I really felt bad for Garrett Gilbert,

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Speaker 1: just love what they bringing the fullback into play. It's

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Speaker 1: like a lost art, right. But the things that we've

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Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert's to lou Well, if you're doing the underwear

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Speaker 1: So what am I doing. I am anticipating that you're

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Speaker 1: I know that you're going to be open. And I

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Speaker 1: he go get you some yards. So that's all the

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn? Sorry I was reading up. No, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: this is something maybe Adam Schefter had said about Dak

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Speaker 1: ready for the first game. He may not be one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent, But I mean I agreed with this with

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Speaker 1: his statement, Well, I didn't disagree with this statement. His

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Speaker 1: statement was alluding to what we've talked about in the past.

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Speaker 1: Not only now is he dealing with trying to come

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Speaker 1: back from an ankle, but now he's dealing with overcoming

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Speaker 1: a shoulder. So did he did he ever get to

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent? I think was a chef's question, like,

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Speaker 1: is he did he ever even have a chance to

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Speaker 1: get to one hundred percent? So if you've never even

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Speaker 1: had a chance to get to one hundred percent from

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Speaker 1: the ankle because he had to deal with the shoulder. Now,

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Speaker 1: is he ready going into the season? Is he had

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent going into the season? That is he ready?

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Speaker 1: Is he one hundred percent? I think the ankle's good.

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Speaker 1: I know the ankle's good. I think he's in good

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Speaker 1: shape with where the shoulder is. Right now. It sounds

446
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Speaker 1: like he's going to more of this week in practice,

447
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Speaker 1: not gonna play in this game Sunday. They're just gonna

448
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Speaker 1: get him ready for the opener. I think that this

449
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Speaker 1: discussion is more about the importance of having that depth

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Speaker 1: because you mentioned Andy Dalton, like, and this is where

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Speaker 1: I was going earlier, is I think some fans say, well,

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Speaker 1: if if that goes down, you're screwed anyway, right, and

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna win the super Bowl. But I think

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Speaker 1: the counterpoint that is, like two thousand and eight, Romo

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Speaker 1: breaks his pinky finger in Arizona, misses three games. They

456
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Speaker 1: just needed three games out of their backup quarterback to

457
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Speaker 1: just kind of keep them afloat, and they lost two

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Speaker 1: or three and they lost the last week of the

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Speaker 1: and missed the playoffs in a year that they were

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Speaker 1: supposed to be contending for the Super Bowl. You bring

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Speaker 1: them back fan trauma right now. I'm sorry, that is

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Speaker 1: like Silver Linings playbook forty four to six game and like,

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Speaker 1: but that's that's what you That's why you got to

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Speaker 1: feel good about your backup quarterback is even hopefully it's

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Speaker 1: not the last that's eleven weeks like Dak last year,

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Speaker 1: but maybe it's three games that maybe something pops up

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Speaker 1: and you got to make sure in a tight division race,

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Speaker 1: one more thing about Cooper Rush. Okay, your point. He

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Speaker 1: does look more comfortable and maybe the Cowboys must be

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Speaker 1: in practice to give him that opportunity. And that was

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Speaker 1: a good sign. To see our just real quick, our ones.

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Speaker 1: And to see Tyrn Smith, to see Lall Collins, We've

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Speaker 1: next break. I've got a hypothetical around the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna pick three weeks this season. I want you

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Speaker 1: Wait now can we can we even do it anymore?

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Speaker 1: Who was in the booth last week? That is a mute.

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Speaker 1: You were there. You were there, and you talked and

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Speaker 1: you made great points. There's there's only so much you

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Speaker 1: the ascension all the way through yea, hey, hey do

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Speaker 1: you take that do Our whole crew is is elevating

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Speaker 1: over here. You know what I'm saying. I heard you

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Speaker 1: talk about you we threw over there yet you don't

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Speaker 1: want to see us. Yeah, we haven't peaked yet. We're

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Speaker 1: not even in that fight. It's it's a yeah. I

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Speaker 1: would love that if that happen, If if Chris just

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Speaker 1: got in our ear and said, don't have him come down,

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Speaker 1: I would love it if we got him. Come on now,

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Speaker 1: all right, So I've got three games that I've picked

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Speaker 1: out on the Cowboys schedule. I'm gonna give you a

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Speaker 1: bye week beforehand too, So bye week Week seven, and

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Speaker 1: then weeks eight nine in ten at Minnesota and then

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Speaker 1: at home against Denver at home against Atlanta. I want

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Speaker 1: you to tell me to the record out of those

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Speaker 1: three games if you had to keep the sale a liar,

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Speaker 1: I guess the boat afloat. If you had to keep

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Speaker 1: the boat afloat with a backup quarterback, something happens. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's a three week deal for Dak Prescott. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna tell us which quarterback? Yeah, and then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell me what what the record would be? You want

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Speaker 1: to start? Okay, Isaiah, I'm going one and two with

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Speaker 1: all three? All three? But what with the first two quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: Nucci three? So it's it doesn't really matter either way.

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Speaker 1: You're going one and one and two? So which one

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Speaker 1: would be the win? It's Minnesota Denver is going to be.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be Atlanta. Okay, So that third week, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you would lose the first two and then the

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Speaker 1: third week would be a win with Cooper Rush and

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Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert. Okay, let's do Cooper Rush, Rob. I think

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Speaker 1: that's fair, like one and two. I mean, because like

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Speaker 1: you're looking at the quarterback matchup right, We're talking Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Denver in Atlanta. Well, Minnesota and Atlanta, Man, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's an edge at quarterback if Dak Prescott's not

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Speaker 1: in there. So I mean, that's that's the most important position.

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Speaker 1: I'd have to lean that way. Would you say, what

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Speaker 1: about Ben d Nucci? For you? You know, I think

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Speaker 1: it'd be hard pressed to win a game with with Ben.

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Speaker 1: He's not I don't think he's ready to be in

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Speaker 1: that position. I don't think that. I think he's got

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Speaker 1: a chance to still be a quarterback in this league

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Speaker 1: last night notwithstanding, but he's not competing to be the

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Speaker 1: backup this year. He's competing for a spot to develop.

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Speaker 1: You know, I look at it that way, and so

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Speaker 1: we saw last year he wasn't ready. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he'd be ready this year either. To be honest with you, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in Tostito's plasita right now right

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Speaker 1: are you gonna go? I'm not gonna do that, but

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Speaker 1: you know I would say, I'm right there with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go one and two for Garrett Gilbert and

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Speaker 1: I would you know, and close on that Denver game.

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Speaker 1: I just think that Minnesota, I think they would they

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Speaker 1: would confuse him defensively with all the tape that they

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Speaker 1: have on him right now. So that's the reason why

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that, But not that I think Denver is

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Speaker 1: that much better. But Atlanta is a dumpster fire this

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Speaker 1: year anyway. But one in two I'm gonna be one

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Speaker 1: to two, and I just think the Nucci wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: a chance at all. So it's it's it's the same

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Speaker 1: thing as Isaiah wanted two for Rush and Gilbert. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel? I actually agree completely? I don't

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Speaker 1: know for the Nucci. I know you really love I

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Speaker 1: loved his POTENTI and is the Nucci for me? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I like his added to I like his confidence. He

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Speaker 1: has some confidence. Yeah, well maybe a little too much.

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Speaker 1: But it's hard. It's true you do or nobody else.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk. Let's talk about Nucci. Man here for a second. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice watch, Kyle, thank you? Are you trying

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Speaker 1: to change the subject? Very nice? Thank you? Um, it's

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Speaker 1: hiding a Watchtan right now? Um with Benda Nucci? Do

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Speaker 1: you still like his potential? I like his potential, But

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Speaker 1: I hate that word. I know you do hate. I

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Speaker 1: hate that word because potential doesn't mean that you're actually

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Speaker 1: going to attain it. It just means it. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a possible. It's possible. Everybody has potential, So how does

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Speaker 1: that distinguish you from anybody else in the world. You

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Speaker 1: supposed to be the top one percent in the whole world.

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Speaker 1: Outside of his potential, What is the value to this

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Speaker 1: team right now for him? Practice squad? Okay, yeah, development

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Speaker 1: what Rob was talking about. Yeah, can he get you

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Speaker 1: a good look from a practice squad stand point? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, got to one thing Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy said after the game was using his legs. He's

637
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Speaker 1: got that element of his game. They use some of

638
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: that redraw stuff and he can do that and that

639
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: helps you during the week, especially if depending on who

640
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: you're matching up with. I think that's the best situation

641
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, I'd be surprised, honestly if they

642
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: kept three quarters, these three quarterbacks, all three of them

643
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: on the roster. I just think you could go heavier

644
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: at another position. We talked about some of these other

645
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: spots that they're pretty deep at. That's how I feel

646
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: about it. He's definitely developing. He's fighting for, like you said,

647
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: fighting for a spot on the practice squad to further

648
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: develop his career as an NFL quarterback. I think he

649
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: has potential. There's certain things, I mean, besides the three turnovers,

650
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: which were awful turnovers. He did make some plays. He

651
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: did make some throws where you zip some things in

652
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, that's a good throw. He kept the

653
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: offense moving at certain points in the game. But just

654
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: like every young quarterback, it's just an accident waiting to happen,

655
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: and he fell victim to it. And you can't faught

656
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: him or blame him. Every young quarterback goes through those

657
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: young growing pains and he's not immune to him. You

658
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: gotta think about this guy. His first start in the

659
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: NFL was what Sunday night in Philadelphi was a Sunday

660
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: Sunday night. And that's a rough that's a rough way

661
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: to go, you know. And you know, luckily for him,

662
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: And there's been so many comparisons stone around for like

663
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: on the on the broadcast, you know, is he more romo?

664
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: Is he far because the gunslinger mentality is always put

665
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: the label that's put on young quarterbacks that just throw

666
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: it all around the park. But you know, again, before

667
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: you start putting all that out there discussion, it was

668
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: quickly texted me that and I thought they were joking. No,

669
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: I think babe, Babe kind of threw it out there,

670
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: but you know, Moose kind of dusted a little water

671
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: on it. I guess I could get it from the

672
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: gun gunslinger standpoint. I guess right, because he does. I mean,

673
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: he'll like As that said, he's not afraid to. I

674
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: feel like he's a guy that once he settles down,

675
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: once he settles down into a system, I feel like

676
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: he would be a very confident player. Okay, I really do.

677
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: I really feel like once he grasped the offense and

678
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: once he has confidence in that system, timing all that

679
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: kind of stuff with his receivers, I feel like he would.

680
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: I think he would. He would develop relatively quickly. When

681
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: can he settle down though, because nobody knows that. I

682
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: know nobody would know. But that's the thing is that's

683
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: really discouraging to me, is because we saw it last

684
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: year against Philadelphia, had to come in spot duty. Nobody

685
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: blames him for the Philadelphia game. I don't think because

686
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: it was a terrible situation. She had zero off season,

687
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: your rookie quarterback. You're coming from a small school. The

688
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: pace of play was just not there. For being the

689
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: nude she last year, you expected to maybe see an

690
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: uptick and that has there been an uptick. I don't

691
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: think there has. I think, if anything, it's even kind

692
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: of leveled off a little thing. I think more of

693
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: what you're looking for is better decision making. And I

694
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: think that's more so important than it is the physical

695
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: right because his arm motion and that's not going to

696
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna change. It's just not it's too late in his

697
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: in his life where that to change. So you deal

698
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: with it. Um, he finds ways to create windows with

699
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: his legs and all those other other all the other methods. However,

700
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: his decision making doesn't seem to have improved. I mean,

701
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: you look at his game. He went fourteen for nineteen

702
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: with three interceptions, so he was really seventeen for nineteen, right,

703
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 1: but he just three of those went to the Roman people.

704
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: I mean fourteen for nineteen. If you took the interceptions away,

705
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: fourteen for nineteen for one twenty, that's not bad. It's

706
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: a pretty good that's not bad at all. Right, So

707
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: it's it's the decision making. We're not talking about how

708
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: he was, how he had a really good pass completion percentage.

709
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: We're talking about the bad decisions that resulted in interceptions.

710
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: So he has to figure out a way to take

711
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: those off the table. If he takes those off the table,

712
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: he improves his position on rosters. Well. He also then

713
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: sent one touchdown, right, I mean in Arizona. No, yeah,

714
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: he threw a touchdown pass in Arizona to the other team.

715
00:34:54,200 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: He did, so he's got sound pass that's true. Truth.

716
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: Dang it. Chris came in. There was a big six

717
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: to Lonnie Johnson for those who haven't watched the game yet.

718
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's where I stand. I feel like

719
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm grilling you here, But you are the former quarterback

720
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: at the table. But how do you teach the decision making?

721
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: Can you teach decision making? Absolutely? I think he's learning that.

722
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe that he's not learning how

723
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: to make That's just decisions. It's just at the end

724
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: of the day, he has to make the decision not

725
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: to make that throw, you know. I mean like for

726
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: a long time when I was playing quarterback, I had

727
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: to make the decision not to try to make the

728
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: big play in the field. It's like throw it away,

729
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: Like that was a learning process for me, Like, no,

730
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I want to make a play. I'm looking for anybody

731
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: and everybody. Heck, but go deep, go that way goes

732
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: six yards. I don't care. I'm gonna throw it if

733
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: I hit you, good, if I don't hit you. It's

734
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: at least incompletion. He's not to the point where he

735
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: can make it just incompletion. He's to the point where

736
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: it's like big play or interception. He has to get

737
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: to the point where it is either big play or

738
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 1: guess what, maybe it's just throw it in the ground

739
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: or just throw it away. And that takes a lot

740
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: for you to get to that point. But there's gonna

741
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: be one time where he does it in the game.

742
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna play that was easier to not thought why

743
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: haven't done Why? Why haven't I done this the whole time?

744
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: And when that clicks for him, I think he will

745
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: start making huge jumps. Parcels called it impulse throws. Yea

746
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: when when Romo And I'm not comparing him directly to

747
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: Romo because Dave got me in trouble on Twitter. I

748
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: quoted me, Yeah, Romo needed some time too, you know,

749
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: And I wasn't. I was joking. I wasn't making a

750
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: direct comparison. That's not fair to Bed. But he had

751
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: that touchdown drive in Arizona. That was impressive. Yeah, um,

752
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: but yeah not Cooper Rush did it the other night,

753
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: did it last night, uh, Saturday night and got away

754
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: with it. An impulse throw that should have been picked off.

755
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert strown it into traffic at least twice in

756
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: these three games. You could be around the league and still,

757
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: you know, get yourself in trouble doing that. So for him,

758
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: it is the decision making. It's seeing things faster, seeing

759
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: the field developed faster. That's where Dak, I think to me,

760
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: is really his game is just taken off because he's

761
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: seen everything now, you know, and sometimes it takes just

762
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: being on the field. You have to have the talent

763
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: to do it as well. And I think for Ben too,

764
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: like he's not the tallest quarterback and I think sometimes

765
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: he's it looks like maybe he's struggling a little bit

766
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: to see over things too. That's one that's a myth though.

767
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: The whole Yeah, I know, so the whole scene, the

768
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: seeing over the line thing, it's just not a it's

769
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: not a thing because guys are looking at passing lane,

770
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: you're looking through you're looking through lanes. So that's that's

771
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: when the footwork comes into it. I think that's I mean,

772
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's he's totally debunking everything that everybody's ever said

773
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: about about the hype thing. Drew Brees is totally debunked it.

774
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: You know, you go Alway, Doug Flute, everybody has Oh,

775
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of you know, freaking um Wilson,

776
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I mean, these guys are not tall, um,

777
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: so they're seeing you're seeing through lanes. It just really

778
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: comes down to him, just hey, don't do that. Don't

779
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: do that, young fella, Like, just just don't. It's not

780
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: worth it. Throw it away. You have your legs, us

781
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: your legs. Nobody's gonna yell at you for for running

782
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: three yards and sliding death. That's much better than throwing

783
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: the ball up in the air. But to PE's point,

784
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: that's exactly what you had even alluded to before. It's

785
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: just having the vision to see when a guy is

786
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: going to be open, to throw him open, that maturity

787
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: in his decision making process. He just hadn't got there.

788
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: We hadn't seen him get to that point, and therefore

789
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: that's why you're getting those errand throws. Yeah. I mean,

790
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: but like even myself as a young quarterback, I had

791
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: to learn to sit in the pocket because when I

792
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: wasn't confident with the timing and when I wasn't confident

793
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: with you know, throwing to just sitting back there in

794
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: the pocket, I took off. I was gone, right, I

795
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: was gone, and I was considered a running quarterback. But

796
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: I bet you what we were getting the first down.

797
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: We weren't having a negative yardage. I wasn't throwing an interception.

798
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, I think I have the lowest

799
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: interception percentage of my school's history because I was not

800
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: going to make a bad throw, you know, I did

801
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: not want to do that. So I had to learn

802
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: to sit back and trust my guys and throw the

803
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: ball and guess what to throw the ball away, and

804
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: not try to run people over and slide. And so

805
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: he has to get there. He has to get there,

806
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: and unfortunately he's just not there yet. But I feel

807
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: like at some point in time, if he continues to

808
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: receive opportunities, he will that that light ball will come

809
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,120
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816
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00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on, for sure, so does

867
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense this past offseason. By the way, Heck Mahrrison, isaiahs,

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Speaker 1: Dan Back, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's here on Talking Cowboys.

869
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: If he's just joining us, we've just talked a lot

870
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: about the offense, talked a lot about the backup quarterback

871
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: position and just how concerning it is for this Cowboys organization.

872
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: The concern going into the off season was the defense,

873
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: and so far I've seen a turnaround, at least in

874
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: my opinion. I want to get y'all's opinion. But there

875
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: was a weird instance, and weird shouldn't be a thing

876
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: anymore because of twenty twenty now into twenty twenty one

877
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: by any means, but no Dan Quinn or Carlos Watkins,

878
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: both of which leaving the stadium out of precaution in

879
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: terms of contact tracing for COVID nineteen and so Joeett

880
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: Junior had to call the plays on Saturday, really a

881
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: last minute thing. But this is a guy who Coach

882
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: McCarthy coach Quinn both have a lot of confidence in

883
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: what did you see from the defense on Saturday? Because

884
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: even if the offense was pitter pattering, I thought the

885
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: defense showed a lot of positives. Yeah, it's not enough

886
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: to say about the job that Joe Junior did. And

887
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about twenty twenty and the

888
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: whole newness of weird, that we're experiencing. When I heard that,

889
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: you know, Quinn was was out, I was like, wow,

890
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: this is this can't happen during the regular season, So

891
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: whatever happens, let's see what Joe Witt does and it

892
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: then it reminded me that Joe Witt was one of

893
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: the candidates when we were looking for a defensive coordinator

894
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: as well. So it just talks about how dynamic this

895
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: coaching staff is. And and I'm not going to go

896
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: out there too far with some of the superstars that

897
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: we have on this coaching staff, but I just felt

898
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: like Joe Witt did an awesome job with dolling it up.

899
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: And man, I don't know what we're We're three four A,

900
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: We're four three hybrid. It's a hybrid all over the place.

901
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: And I just thought that, first of all, just the

902
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: way that they're using Micah Parsons. Micah Parson is everywhere.

903
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: He's standing in the A gap, he's out on the edge,

904
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: he's at the same he's everywhere on the field, and

905
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: just some of the blitzes that Wit was dolling up.

906
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: I loved him. I love the pressure from the safety position.

907
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: I love some of the stunting that we saw with

908
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: Oca DIGGI Zola and uh Micah And I think you

909
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: pointed that out in a tweet. How that you know

910
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: how successful that was. And look, Michael Parsons is everywhere.

911
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: He is all over the place, and this kid is

912
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: If you thought he was good in the draft, well

913
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: at least Idea, Yeah, of course I thought he was good.

914
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: But you know, he is a lot more. He is

915
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: a lot We're getting a lot more. And his ability,

916
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: uh to blitz it and just cover all of the

917
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: weaknesses that people thought that he had. He doesn't have any,

918
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: I guess right now in preseason. But from a defensive standpoint, Colum,

919
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: I'm with you. There's so much that I'm seeing from

920
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: God's like Darnce Armstrong, even Bley and I I had

921
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: himself a game, didn't Bradley a nice setting that this now?

922
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: He did At one point he made a tackle and

923
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: he like did a split. Did y'all see that? Yeah?

924
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: That that that scared me a little bit because had

925
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: Heckmiman done a split like that on the field. You

926
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: care flighted me about it there too, but you definitely

927
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: would have had a new talent. But all in all,

928
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: I was definitely pleased with the job. And the last

929
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, we talked Rob p. We talked

930
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: p about the offense. Last year. I think that the

931
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense was number one at points off of turnovers,

932
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: meaning points scored against them on turnovers. You saw when

933
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: they did get have the turnover, they gave up that,

934
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, gave up the touchdown initially, but then in

935
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: the second half had a goal line stance which and

936
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: only gave up a field goal, which I thought was

937
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: good as well. And that's to me, that was the changing, Uh,

938
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: to see the defense hold up like that. I think

939
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: for the first time this preseason, we've seen the culture

940
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: of our defense show up, the new culture, the dan

941
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: Quinn culture, which is fast and furious and relentless. I

942
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: think we saw that and regardless of who was in

943
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: the game, Um, these guys were flying around dumb Toto defense.

944
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, all about family exactly, It's all about family. Family.

945
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: But these guys were relentless. I mean, you saw guys

946
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: all over the place, and you know, you just alluded

947
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: to the different fronts and stunts and things that they brought. Um.

948
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: Obviously that comes from the defensive coordinator. You know, he

949
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: did a great job. Stepping in for Quinn. But the players,

950
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: the players showed up. Man Bradley and I Michael Parsons,

951
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, you started talking about it was good to

952
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: see Malik Hooker in there. Um, it was good to see.

953
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: Um who else was Jabriel Cox? That's somebody had my

954
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: eye on. He was flying around. I mean, you think

955
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: about that's gonna be your second wave over, that's your

956
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: second lineup coming in as your linebackers. So, I mean,

957
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: it was really good to see these guys and they

958
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: were having fun. They were having fun, and we talked

959
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: about this all offseason. These guys were having fun, running around,

960
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: hitting and just celebrating. Just hit him with the coach.

961
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: It just showed up. It showed up. And I'm really

962
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: hoping that that was not just a one time appearance

963
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: and that that is the new identity for this defense.

964
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at some of the PFF grades just

965
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: for fun, just to kind of see where everybody kind

966
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: of fell in. Michael Parsons scored a ninety ninety plus.

967
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: Jabille Cox had an eighty two. He was the third best.

968
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: Who was the second best player on that list If

969
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: you had to guess, he's a defensive end. Wasn't Dorrence

970
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: Armstrong was mister Randy Gregory? Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah,

971
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: yeah he was. He was coming off the ball man

972
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: with with the front seven. I mean, and you guys,

973
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: credit to both of you in terms of the idea

974
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: to revamp the front seven, because at least at the moment,

975
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: it looks like it's working. I mean, they are revamped.

976
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Randy Gregory coming back having a full offseason,

977
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: looks like it continues on. He even said it. There's

978
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him. There's a lot of

979
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: pressure on that defensive line. Michael part and certainly adds

980
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: to that mix as well. But how much improved have

981
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: you seen from that side of the football. It's night

982
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: and day right now year because last year, I mean,

983
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: now you have now you have to compare it. This

984
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: is preseason. Let's let's not get Crazil. Okay, this is

985
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: preseason and we're playing against the Houston Texas. Okay, so

986
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: let's let's yeah. I was going to make sure we

987
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: temper our expectations right correctly. However, what they put on films,

988
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: where they put on film and they were flying around

989
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: and they were being dominant, these are still professional athletes

990
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: that they're playing against. Now, it's not Tampa base Front.

991
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: Let's get that very clear now. But it is very

992
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: encouraging to see these guys thriving, says, you know, seemingly

993
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: thriving within this new system and building confidence, because that's

994
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: really what pro athletes need. And it kind of sounds silly.

995
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, well, your pact pro athlete, you shouldn't need

996
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: to feel that. No, No, you do. You do every

997
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: every level. You need to feel good about what you're doing.

998
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: You need to feel good about your assignment. You need

999
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: to feel good about where you fit in the scheme

1000
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: and how how impactful can you be on the field. Also,

1001
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: or Gizua, he did a great job. He was jumping

1002
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: off the screen. You know, you look at guys that

1003
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: are jumping off the screen. This dude was in the

1004
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: backfield now, oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah, often and with energy.

1005
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: Not only was he making plays, but you saw guys

1006
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: after the play like being live. That's what I'm used

1007
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: to seeing in a successful dan Quinn system. They got

1008
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: to figure out that that d tackle deal because Neville's

1009
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: gonna come back, you would hope in the next couple

1010
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: of months. Before that, Okay, so Brent Urban started the

1011
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: game with osa Osa looks like he's gonna play, He's

1012
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: gonna be could be an impact player week one. You

1013
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: get that out of a third round draft pick, man,

1014
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: that's a that's a really good draft pick. Um. So

1015
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: that's that's really encouraging. They worked justin Hamilton in there,

1016
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: so they got to figure that out. But yeah, the

1017
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: front seven man, Mike McCarthy spoke after the game. He's'

1018
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: he said, I don't want to disrespect any of my

1019
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: former teams, but I have not seen a linebacker group

1020
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: with this much depth and talent that we've seen, And

1021
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: I think he's right. I mean that sub package where

1022
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: they've got Mike and Keanu Neel together, that's a really

1023
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: fun group to get in terms of fast, physical Have

1024
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: you ever seen Mighty Ducks too? This kind of reminds

1025
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: me of Fulton and Dean Portman's going at it, you know,

1026
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: and like that's that's a really good sub package there. Texans. Okay, look,

1027
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: Zeke said it last week that they want their this

1028
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: offense to be the number one offense in the league.

1029
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Houston's going to compete for that. You know,

1030
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: they're they're not. They're not. They're not a very talented

1031
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: offense top to bottom. But so that is keep that

1032
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: in mind. But look, anytime you hold somebody to zero

1033
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: for ten on third down like that is saying something.

1034
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: And one of them, I think it was a drop

1035
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. But that was impressive. And you heck,

1036
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: you mentioned the quick change in the first quarter. They

1037
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: didn't respond to that great. I mean, they gave up

1038
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: some some runs there in that first drive and you

1039
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: kind of thought, man, that's that's kind of looks a

1040
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: little like last year. But they did a better job overall.

1041
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: And it was three point two yards of carry for

1042
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: the game Houston had, so overall, I mean, yeah, that

1043
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: was an impressive performance. They just look comfortable. Like you said,

1044
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: they're changing things up. They are blitzing, which is some

1045
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: cool blitz packages they got. They're coming. They're coming. But

1046
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't see a lot of bus either.

1047
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: The communication seems to be pretty good, you know, top

1048
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: to bottom. So now I love that, and I love

1049
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: what you're talking about as far as the linebacker group,

1050
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: because man, all of a sudden, there are a lot

1051
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: of decisions that have to be made there as well.

1052
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: Because what are you gonna do once you see your

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Speaker 1: rookie Jabril Cox, take them you know where, take the

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Speaker 1: reins in that position. He plays really well in pass coverage.

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Speaker 1: That's what got him drafted with how superior he was there.

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Speaker 1: Now he's showing you things in the running game as well,

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Speaker 1: also blitzing. Now he came on a blitzing and Thompson

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Speaker 1: got credit for but that was all because of Jabril

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Speaker 1: Cox and what he did. And so what do you

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Speaker 1: do now with Layton? What do you do now with Jalen?

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Speaker 1: Guys that are making money, trying to make that big

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Speaker 1: money that are now second tier, third tier guys when

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Speaker 1: you're they're afterthoughts when you start talking about what they

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Speaker 1: do as far as in those sub packages. Because ken

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Speaker 1: On Nil is man. He is a general when he

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Speaker 1: the guys respect him and that's based off of his

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Speaker 1: actions on the field and he's just putting it. He's

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Speaker 1: putting that tape out there. Also man at the safety position.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't have questions before, you have bigger questions

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Speaker 1: now because Jeron Curse he had a good game. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about questions in a good way. Yeah, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: a great in a great way, great way. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's going to be a discussion Wednesday, is I mean,

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Speaker 1: we talked about the dB room last week. Let's try

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Speaker 1: and let's try and talk about that on Wednesday a

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Speaker 1: little bit because I want to get deeper into that.

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Speaker 1: And we've got to get out of the way because

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Speaker 1: there is another podcast after us. It's Players Lounge. Just

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Speaker 1: got to get started. Yes, you can tune into that

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Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. But we'll be here on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: eleven twenty. I believe it's the start time, so it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit off. We have to work around coach

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Speaker 1: McCarthy's schedule, so we'll make sure him do that and

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Speaker 1: we will be right back here SWBC Mortgage Studios on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Do yourself a favor. Go check out A Path to

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Standback, heck My Harrison and the great Chris Beam

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Speaker 1: in the back up. Kyle Yeoman's thanks for listening so long.

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