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Speaker 5: It's been a say Casey Ward, Yeah, yeah, well dream champ. Now,
Speaker 5: very seldomly do I get a chance to see an
Speaker 5: artist come from you know where they where they coming
Speaker 5: in the game, to the furthest they they can go.
Speaker 1: This brother right here, I've.
Speaker 5: Seen him in the beginning. I've seen him go to
Speaker 5: record labels. I've seen him from being a person that
Speaker 5: the record labels will probably just you know, take a
Speaker 5: meeting with, to the man being the most important person
Speaker 5: in this goddamn game. Jay Z said it and made
Speaker 5: everyone in the industry mad. The only people movements units
Speaker 5: is juice and us this man has three Grammys, nine
Speaker 5: bill boards. I don't mean, I don't even want to
Speaker 5: count his plaques because it's too much. It's beyond beyond beyond.
Speaker 5: It's beyond beyond, beyond, legend, beyond beyond beyond, movies, beyond
Speaker 5: beyond beyond. Nigga, this movie with Adams Handler, Nigga, you
Speaker 5: fucked up, nigga.
Speaker 1: This man is a legend. He's an icon.
Speaker 5: I got to see him, I got to see him grow,
Speaker 5: I got to see him be the person.
Speaker 1: That he is saying.
Speaker 5: And I'm so happy to give this man his flowers today.
Speaker 5: In case you don't know what the fun we're talking about.
Speaker 5: You're talking about the one, the only, the motherfucking impeccable.
Speaker 1: What's going on? I got that, knew the video. Trying
Speaker 1: to the video. My wife said, you got the bad wrong.
Speaker 1: I said, he get it, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a, do you realize how iconic that is?
Speaker 5: Like like we all we're all on the group tad
Speaker 5: to be like yo, we gotta do something special, and
Speaker 5: we just all wanted to salute and and yeah city
Speaker 5: and the bill So.
Speaker 1: That's actually as matter of fact down here, Okay, Well
Speaker 1: it took place in Miami. Yep, it was down here.
Speaker 2: I actually it just got the recording, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I just got down her recording a large part of Nellyville, okay,
Speaker 2: and it's the second or third album on second album,
Speaker 2: and we were down here hooping and sucking around and
Speaker 2: ship like it and you know, got whack.
Speaker 1: Won't put the band head on it.
Speaker 2: But then I was about to take the ship off,
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what I'm fucking with
Speaker 2: let me you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We was sucking with City.
Speaker 2: We was going into the coming out of the Free
Speaker 2: City album. You know, wanted to keep representing, keep showing
Speaker 2: my little brother some love because he was you know,
Speaker 2: he was locked down.
Speaker 1: Didn't get a chance to City. Yeah City.
Speaker 2: That's actually he did the rap on ride with me.
Speaker 2: He wasn't never in the video and they were locked up.
Speaker 2: So you know, we named the same Luna takeout matter
Speaker 2: him and all of that ship and just started wrapping
Speaker 2: the band aid like fucking, I'm my whole cousin down.
Speaker 2: We're gonna ride this thing out until he get out
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 5: Band aid, represented until he came out, until he came home.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, all the way got holy ship.
Speaker 1: You know. You know what's crazy? I heard, but I
Speaker 1: didn't pay attention.
Speaker 5: So so I didn't pay attention as much as I
Speaker 5: should rather. So you're saying that that wasn't a style statement, he.
Speaker 1: Said, Yeah, it was him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: When we first we was down here hooping because we
Speaker 2: had rented a house or some ship and we had
Speaker 2: the studio in the house and down there hooping and.
Speaker 1: Got fucked up. And then I was like, okay, cool boath.
Speaker 2: But we was coming out of the Free City album,
Speaker 2: a little chick album. I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: this might be dope and I don't even lie something.
Speaker 1: Some little chicks soup my head up, like that man ship.
Speaker 1: Here we are, you know what I'm saying. And we
Speaker 1: were throwing it up for City, so we kept it rolling.
Speaker 5: It's crazy because I was on tour and I got
Speaker 5: I cought a cut right here. I don't know if
Speaker 5: you remember, I could a cut right here, and I
Speaker 5: had to put a band date on. It was like
Speaker 5: this motherfucker can't get a cut no more. But let's
Speaker 5: let's bounce around a little bit, righty. Super Bowl twenty
Speaker 5: twenty five just happened right, and it's mixed reviews. Me personally,
Speaker 5: I love to see hip hop on that stage, but
Speaker 5: I can't ignore what other people are saying, like did
Speaker 5: you feel because you did super Bowl? And uh, yeah,
Speaker 5: well we did it. I did it twice. I did
Speaker 5: it the first time.
Speaker 2: I think it was like oh one, and then yeah
Speaker 2: we did it the next time.
Speaker 1: I did it.
Speaker 2: But don't nobody really remember us because the nipple came out.
Speaker 1: Ja, yeah we was on that show. It was like me, nah, nah,
Speaker 1: I mean everybody, you don't know.
Speaker 2: Who was on that motherfucker you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 2: but yeah, we did it. No, Kendrick did Kendrick.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what. I don't know what people were
Speaker 1: expecting him to do. Like Kendrick is. You know, he's
Speaker 1: a rapper. He's a rapper. Like he wasn't go two steps,
Speaker 1: he wasn't going you know.
Speaker 2: I think he did a great job. I think he
Speaker 2: did a great job. I understood that it is the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, so as far as theatrically, some people could
Speaker 2: be effecting a little more.
Speaker 1: But I think he did a great job. Man.
Speaker 2: I loved it, and he did him you know, And
Speaker 2: who who I also think should get a lot of
Speaker 2: credit is whoever put that damn show together because that
Speaker 2: choreography and all that movement, and simultaneously, whoever did that
Speaker 2: the behind the scenes, them mofwuckers, they need to raise.
Speaker 5: See because you see, that's something that's very important because
Speaker 5: it's a lot because we understand that I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 5: as high as I've ever gotten in hip hop, I've
Speaker 5: never got the super Bowl status, so I can't relate
Speaker 5: to that, like you know what I'm saying, But can
Speaker 5: you explain to people like how that shit is?
Speaker 1: You got to really rehearse, Yeah, you and that shiit
Speaker 1: two weeks of rehearsals.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, it's in that actual city that
Speaker 5: the super Bowl's taking place.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the first.
Speaker 2: Time we did it, we started rehearsals somewhere else. It
Speaker 2: was like enclosed into a studio and they kind of
Speaker 2: set a mock stage up just to run it through.
Speaker 2: And the first time because they really didn't know because
Speaker 2: I was like the first rapper to get a chance
Speaker 2: to do any of it, and they had me on
Speaker 2: that so motherfucking fast, and my heart pound and this
Speaker 2: ship I'm down to that motherfucker. I'm racing like a motherfucker,
Speaker 2: Like damn, I'm really at the super Bowl. So you
Speaker 2: do all that rehearsal. We rehearsal for like eight it's
Speaker 2: almost like three four hours. Then it moved to like
Speaker 2: six to eight hours. Then then you might be rehearsing.
Speaker 2: The closer you get might be like twelve hour fucking rehearsal.
Speaker 1: But you know, you got breaks and.
Speaker 2: Ship in between her, and then yeah, the ship goes
Speaker 2: so motherfucking fast. So but nah, man, I should have
Speaker 2: this Bowl twice. Yeah, like I said, the second time it.
Speaker 1: Was it was Yeah, it was puff Me and puff
Speaker 1: Kid Rock Jessica, Jessica Simpson. I don't know if just
Speaker 1: Timberlake Simula. Yeah, yeah, he was the he was the coprit.
Speaker 7: Yeah he went unscathed.
Speaker 1: That kind of a lot of people like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: she did herself, you know what I'm saying, because I
Speaker 1: don't remember. So Janny got the slack for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, Janny caught a lot of motherfucker slack for that.
Speaker 8: Which now would have been nothing. And now the way
Speaker 8: she is, well you have only fans ship.
Speaker 5: So netly, All right, let's let's let's take it from
Speaker 5: the beginning, right. I always thought like your plot is
Speaker 5: always was always a little harder than anybody else because
Speaker 5: one you were like the first rapper coming from Saint
Speaker 5: Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: Is that correct to a certain degree? Okay, we had
Speaker 1: we had We had a few.
Speaker 2: People man that that came up, that came up out
Speaker 2: the lou but didn't get a chance to really get
Speaker 2: to a h.
Speaker 1: Bull Stars of the lou you're saying, definitely, definitely was.
Speaker 2: We had a bunch of bulletproof records and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: forget it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna forget a bunch of people.
Speaker 2: At this time because you're on the spot and that's
Speaker 2: kind of fucked up.
Speaker 1: So see, you know who.
Speaker 2: I know it was like bulletproof records because they were
Speaker 2: really really close with us, but they were super gangster
Speaker 2: nigga And that was the thing with Saint Louis. Saint
Speaker 2: Louis rapp was super gangster, like like did.
Speaker 1: You give me that? Put your kids in the cars,
Speaker 1: set the fuck up slapping with a pistol that time.
Speaker 2: But in uh agreed, you know, uh, And we was
Speaker 2: more doing things a little different. So a lot of
Speaker 2: people kind of looked at us at that time, like,
Speaker 2: you know, they're doing more party and they're doing more
Speaker 2: this and more of that. And we was kind of mixing,
Speaker 2: mixing both of them together.
Speaker 1: But what you don't remember first time and I'm gonna switch,
Speaker 1: first time I ever met Norri Okay, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1: It's like ninety I want to say, it's like ninety
Speaker 1: eight penalty record.
Speaker 2: I'm on fut my my little brother caught in signing.
Speaker 1: It was signed a penalty.
Speaker 2: I was cool, and we came to your session, and
Speaker 2: this is why I fucked with you to this day,
Speaker 2: because I don't know nobody. All I know is I'm
Speaker 2: up her by myself a Koda got Koda love Yes,
Speaker 2: And we came to your session.
Speaker 1: And at that time, it.
Speaker 2: Was the thin mustache, little hair on the top.
Speaker 1: Form real and he very tight shirt, very tight shirt,
Speaker 1: and he was at the board and.
Speaker 2: Y'all was he was either mixing or y'all was finishing up.
Speaker 1: No. No, And I was like, Yo, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is this ship? You know?
Speaker 2: And I'm just sitting in the back and you was
Speaker 2: walking around. You ain't know me from nobody on the
Speaker 2: fucking planet.
Speaker 1: Man. You dapped me up and gave me, gave me
Speaker 1: some smoke and ship. And I was just like, damn,
Speaker 1: that makes a LuSE of me, you know what. And
Speaker 1: I and I was like, man, I funk with dude,
Speaker 1: Like dude didn't know me from motherfucker can the paint? Man,
Speaker 1: you showed me a lot that missed so motherfucking much
Speaker 1: meat your hayes. You got to cute up. Now you're
Speaker 1: gonna get your You gotta cute up. But you sent
Speaker 1: me on the on the text. Yeah, he got a speaker.
Speaker 1: You gotta speaking. Try to be professional now you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, right what you don't talk? What
Speaker 1: what you said? Let you play something. You know it's
Speaker 1: not that smell me okay or yeah, because you was
Speaker 1: in there. You you were talking about this smell me
Speaker 1: and you was giving props out because you was like, no,
Speaker 1: that's not my ship. I got that from somebody. If
Speaker 1: you said I never take another man's glory, I was like,
Speaker 1: that was all it is? What all over that that's
Speaker 1: the only thing, man. I wanted my country grammar black.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you that. But I got it,
Speaker 1: got it. And one time you gave me a big compliment.
Speaker 5: Man, we were sitting there and you was like, Yo,
Speaker 5: I got the word country Grandma. I thought of it
Speaker 5: when I heard you say country Grandma because I said
Speaker 5: it on Super the You we said listen.
Speaker 1: The whole vibe was.
Speaker 2: You were sitting so much, and it was it's hard
Speaker 2: when you, like from the Midwest or from the South
Speaker 2: to get the respect that a lot of people want
Speaker 2: doing hip hop, Like, don't get it twisted all over
Speaker 2: the world, all.
Speaker 1: Over the country.
Speaker 2: Everybody know the Mecca is up there and everybody know that, right.
Speaker 1: So when you when you looking.
Speaker 2: At it like that, you it's almost like, yo, you
Speaker 2: want certain validation.
Speaker 1: That's that's why the OG and one of them, you know,
Speaker 1: one of my greatest rappers and influence, PIMC.
Speaker 2: He had us. He used to always have an issue
Speaker 2: in New York to a certain degree because he started
Speaker 2: early early late eighties, early nineties, and when he would
Speaker 2: come up top, he would never get.
Speaker 1: The love talk about motherfuckers with boom.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't let him, you know, do what he do,
Speaker 2: and that kind of put a stain on his view
Speaker 2: about it. So us being where we're from, it's just like, yo,
Speaker 2: you know, you want to rock New York. You want
Speaker 2: to rock.
Speaker 1: Master Square Guardian who don't want to fuck up the Apollo.
Speaker 1: You you want.
Speaker 2: That type of situation because you understand that this is
Speaker 2: where this shit started. So if that doesn't come a
Speaker 2: lot of times, you know you kind of.
Speaker 1: Feel like, well damn dad, why the fuck? Like hey
Speaker 1: this a bitch, and then you'd be like, well fuck it.
Speaker 2: Then were going home, you know so, But you was
Speaker 2: never one of those people you will always give motherfuckers.
Speaker 8: It wasn't the people necessarily individually we wanted to help
Speaker 8: you out.
Speaker 1: We have this argument all the time. Argument not an argument.
Speaker 5: We have a discrepancy, it's a disagreement. He always says
Speaker 5: that New York never showed the South.
Speaker 1: Love from it.
Speaker 5: I'm saying it might have not been the artist per se,
Speaker 5: It might have been the environment and saying, well, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you had a lot of people that that
Speaker 1: would speak out.
Speaker 2: Because they would come down. Motherfuckers hang out in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: you hang out down here in Miami. You can't be
Speaker 2: on too much bullshit because it ain't gonna go.
Speaker 1: Your way, you know what I'm saying. Like, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably say the industry as a whole
Speaker 2: because everything was based up there.
Speaker 1: They were step gate keeping. Yeah, he ain't got to
Speaker 1: say it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, but I mean,
Speaker 1: you know right I would say rightfully, not righteously, but
Speaker 1: rightfully to a certain degree.
Speaker 2: It's like, yo, nigga, you know you're protecting what you've got,
Speaker 2: and if you feel like you birth some ship, you're
Speaker 2: gonna hold on to it till you understand that. Yo,
Speaker 2: you might want to spread the love around you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and then you know, certain things happen.
Speaker 2: But man, you've always been that man. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Man card shout. Years you were hanging out, a lot
Speaker 1: of people didn't know you were saying hanging out.
Speaker 5: And because you didn't claim Saint Louis, it's because your
Speaker 5: swag like kind of like reflected.
Speaker 2: Well, I was able to make listen. Saint Louis made
Speaker 2: Saint Louis made me who I am, gave me my
Speaker 2: talent all of that ship hanging out in New York
Speaker 2: in the hall, and taught me how.
Speaker 1: To be a star, because you know New York, everybody
Speaker 1: in New York, they ain't doing ship. Nigga, walk up
Speaker 1: to you the CD, nigga, get the best CD. I'm
Speaker 1: the cdn't recognize that, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: you coming to yeah, the competation. So just getting a
Speaker 1: chance to hang out in the Hall of Ear the other.
Speaker 2: Day, going up the penalty records and all that shit.
Speaker 1: I was just seeing how.
Speaker 2: Things worked from from a different perspective because where we're from,
Speaker 2: we're looking to get in to the game, y'all. A
Speaker 2: lot of New York and the game from New York
Speaker 2: was looking like, yo, we are the game. So I
Speaker 2: had to start thinking like I.
Speaker 1: Am the game.
Speaker 2: And then once I started realizing and start thinking like, yo,
Speaker 2: I am the game, and that's when ship just just
Speaker 2: like boom, Because like I said, again, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: hanging out with.
Speaker 1: Niggas. We rolled up. We rolled up in Harlem. We
Speaker 1: all in a van. I didn't know what the fuck
Speaker 1: like the battle rap.
Speaker 2: Scene was like in New York. So I'm rolling with
Speaker 2: It's like me Cardy used to be some cats called
Speaker 2: the Teamsters. They was on Country Grandma and were riding
Speaker 2: around Harlem.
Speaker 1: These niggas is jumping out battling motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about niggas just jumping out on the
Speaker 2: corner on the corner and the niggas just like face to face,
Speaker 2: shoulder the pot.
Speaker 1: So I think, Nigga, I'm from the loop. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I came with these niggas.
Speaker 1: I got to leave with them. So they hop out, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I hop out. I go up. They like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we rapping, like what shit all right? And they spitting
Speaker 1: on each other ship. I'm like you, I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's finna hit it.
Speaker 2: Fuck him up and these niggas and when it's over
Speaker 2: and give each other death.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, I ain't never seen no ship.
Speaker 2: Like that, not like that, because we battle wrapped in
Speaker 2: Saint Louis, but it was never that intense, like you
Speaker 2: get that close to a.
Speaker 1: Nigga in the lou and get the spear and let
Speaker 1: nigga what the boafies.
Speaker 5: But you battle rapped, arguly the most battle rapped person
Speaker 5: in the hip hop.
Speaker 1: Only by default. I didn't know this story. Thought.
Speaker 5: I know, I know you could asking what happened only,
Speaker 5: but I did not never understand.
Speaker 1: Okay, what happened? You stretched song number one? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then what happened.
Speaker 2: And nigga, I actually I actually had a part of
Speaker 2: our management team at the time. Shout out to Courtey Benson,
Speaker 2: him and his brother was was cool with kr.
Speaker 1: Rest Okay, you know, I'm like, Nigga, this is the teacher.
Speaker 1: This is God, this is who the teacher. Never in
Speaker 1: my wildest dreams am I ever thinking that anything that
Speaker 1: I am doing is on his radar. It's never this nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm there's nothing I'm doing this on his radar? Why
Speaker 1: would the fun Hey Alrest one give a fuck about what? Nelly?
Speaker 5: He's number one, but then you forgot had a so
Speaker 5: called number one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, come on, my nigga, I ain't from
Speaker 2: no ship, I ain't from no barrel.
Speaker 1: I'm down here, you know what I'm saying. No, I
Speaker 1: know that, but I'm like, what the fuck? So what
Speaker 1: everybody got somebody label like and you would think that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, I party rap you talking about you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Okay, But then I got a call,
Speaker 1: so what was it? An interview? Was the actual? No nigga?
Speaker 1: I got a call. I think Courtney Mincing was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: KR is one, He's he's mad, you're trying to do
Speaker 1: that I'm like, Nigga, I'm thinking this is a new group,
Speaker 1: not the teacher, like you mean you mean screen or
Speaker 1: some ship to not one like car is one? You mad?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. You know, you're thinking, what the
Speaker 1: fuck that I didn't? Did? I like that? Piss off?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like Nigga, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: your number one song, you.
Speaker 2: Tried to jack on man, you t still this is sound,
Speaker 2: this is sound like you. Okay, So then he does this,
Speaker 2: you know, he does the battle. He wants to battle Nelly.
Speaker 2: That's where you're at, KRS.
Speaker 1: You want to battle Nelly. That's where you're at for real,
Speaker 1: all these niggas that's out there. You ain't saying ship
Speaker 1: to know Jane, you ain't saying. You ain't saying ship
Speaker 1: to nobody out here. You want to battle Nelly.
Speaker 2: Like so I'm like, okay, well whatever, he did his
Speaker 2: ship and I wouldn't even planned on saying nothing. And
Speaker 2: then we got called to be like fucking with the
Speaker 2: rock the mic remaxing property, and I was just like, yo,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna say something, but I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna battle the teacher.
Speaker 1: I'm a student you're talking about.
Speaker 5: I was like, I was really because I didn't know
Speaker 5: Cares had something that said something about you.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, so.
Speaker 5: I just heard you're no he he nine years I
Speaker 5: thought you.
Speaker 1: Was like, no, sir Ca, I don't do that. I
Speaker 1: kick it, party, make money. That's that's always on my mind.
Speaker 1: Think about teacher. Never damn show, not with nobody that
Speaker 1: that has inspired me. That's what. Damn. They're twenty years
Speaker 1: older than me. Like you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: fucking with him for he's one of the best ever
Speaker 1: time he's a teacher, you.
Speaker 2: Know, And I just loves gonna get you all that ship,
Speaker 2: Like that ship influenced us down there, like man, and
Speaker 2: why that dang that was like I told you again,
Speaker 2: Saint Louis is anything gangster gonna roll in the loop
Speaker 2: anything gangs are gonna roll the Loup and all of
Speaker 2: that shit.
Speaker 1: It just didn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2: And he was trying to call me commercial and I
Speaker 2: was like, nigga, you did the sprite commercial.
Speaker 1: Did no commercial commercial? I ain't didn't no commercial none
Speaker 1: of that. You had Oozzi's before I knew what they was.
Speaker 1: I see you on the picture with the motherfuckers dropping
Speaker 1: now my street sweeping in the range. But now I'm
Speaker 1: fucking the game, you know what I'm saying. So it
Speaker 1: shit just sounded weird, bro.
Speaker 2: But did I fix it because I didn't understand the
Speaker 2: politics of him having a project that he wanted to
Speaker 2: introduce to the world, and he you're gonna go, You're
Speaker 2: gonna go with the niggas. That's that's at the top us,
Speaker 2: So let mess. You're gonna get depressed, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I took it personally because at that time, again,
Speaker 2: we was all on guard because we from where we're from,
Speaker 2: and we know niggas ain't niggas fake fucking with us.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Niggas is shaking our handcause we within radius, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But if we ain't in handshaking radius,
Speaker 2: the face is different.
Speaker 5: But so do you think her rus was capping or
Speaker 5: do you think that he was sincerely felt like that. No,
Speaker 5: I think he actually saw opportunity because I did wind
Speaker 5: up get a.
Speaker 2: Chance to work with him. He was doing a project
Speaker 2: was more along the lines of a stop divileuce type
Speaker 2: of project, and we got to hang out in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: and I love him, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: I was, I was hurt. I was hurt, and at
Speaker 2: that time I didn't do too much talking and ship
Speaker 2: or talking about what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: But you know, we was in the little nigga. We
Speaker 1: were ready. We were like it rap is it? What
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? You know we had niggas. That was wild, bro.
Speaker 5: We were young, one of the beat up cares one
Speaker 5: no queens, trust me, and we got to.
Speaker 1: Get the path. So like he's just he's just the
Speaker 1: ultimate angel. Just gotta let me just you know, walk
Speaker 1: the wait. I want to know you guys spoken, did you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, and it was explained and I told him.
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, man, I love you because like
Speaker 2: you inspired you. You you would go so I would never.
Speaker 2: He was like, no, it's never nothing personal. It was
Speaker 2: it was this, you did the number one where I'm from.
Speaker 2: You take a title of our song we at your Neck?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Something like that, And I was like, okay, cool, no problem.
Speaker 5: I was bringing up or he said Kres already had
Speaker 5: an album called Blue Yeah, some old school shi yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But then he didn't say nothing to Jay. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: what I do.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you a question. This is now,
Speaker 5: this is me personally. You have a fellow of love
Speaker 5: out of the out of the game.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you start questioning, questioning, do you want to
Speaker 2: be in it? Yeah, once the politics start rolling in,
Speaker 2: once I start figuring out, oh, once I start figuring
Speaker 2: out somebody was getting paid for the promo tour. You know,
Speaker 2: back in the day, that's how the Street Team Niggas
Speaker 2: used to get you. They they take you.
Speaker 1: To the club. It was working to the Street team,
Speaker 1: they take you it was working, yeah, but they'd take
Speaker 1: you to the club. But you got the highest records
Speaker 1: the Street Team niggas. Yeah, you know, the niggas.
Speaker 8: But the team ahead of the street teams, ahead of the
Speaker 8: marketing department, was the one on the take.
Speaker 1: Okay, not the Street team guys. But because you knew,
Speaker 1: well I don't know, you won't find out who's stealing.
Speaker 1: On your go down the area, house starts shaking the bushes.
Speaker 1: Whoever come to the door, yelling and lie, oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's who got the money? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when we get would.
Speaker 2: Come out, you know, we got the hoidest song on
Speaker 2: the thing. We was the first number one video on
Speaker 2: one O six and park ever to day one O
Speaker 2: six in Parker Country, grandmar with number one the first counter.
Speaker 2: So when we would go into these cities, we are
Speaker 2: getting told, you know, you go to the it's the routine.
Speaker 1: You know, you go to the UH, to the radio station,
Speaker 1: do what you do. Boom.
Speaker 2: She's like, Yo, you at a club tonight, She's like,
Speaker 2: all right, cool, It's like it's it's promo you on
Speaker 2: the flyer.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get up on.
Speaker 2: The stage, you do about two or three of your songs.
Speaker 5: Same ship you do now, yeah, and get a band
Speaker 5: for except they.
Speaker 1: Walk through. They called it, yeah, promo walked through. They
Speaker 1: promo walk through.
Speaker 2: But then you start finding out somebody got ten grand
Speaker 2: of that, somebody got the team to that, somebody got that.
Speaker 2: So then once you start bumking on that.
Speaker 1: That system.
Speaker 2: I think ours ended a little early, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, because you know, when you hustle, somebody
Speaker 2: making money and you're gonna smell it, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. And I grew up hustling. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, cause god damn club, pat we on
Speaker 1: the fly This promo. So, ain't nobody making the motherfucker
Speaker 1: diving this motherfucker. You know the DJ nigg who was
Speaker 1: just at the radio station. He on the fly with you. Yeah, nigga,
Speaker 1: we going out of these stations. He's the night were Yeah,
Speaker 1: my nigga. Now they coming through.
Speaker 5: You know you hype you you he picking.
Speaker 1: He can't even contain his excitement. He got you in
Speaker 1: that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: He knows what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Look, I got that right, were coming through la. He
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just but I'm excited to be there. But I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a part of the game. It's no, it's no
Speaker 2: ill Wills. It's just that's when you start understanding the
Speaker 2: politics of it, and then maybe your love starts waning
Speaker 2: a little bit, you know what I mean, because you
Speaker 2: start being like damn bro.
Speaker 1: But again you you you.
Speaker 2: Correct yourself because now it's like, okay, nigga, but you
Speaker 2: in so find something that you do love and latch
Speaker 2: onto that. See, I'm a positive nigga. I'm I'm a
Speaker 2: glass you half four.
Speaker 1: I ain't a glass half impest you see what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, motherfuckers they.
Speaker 2: Mad man, this ain't enough. I'm like, nigga, Okay, you
Speaker 2: gave me it right on. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: because I'm thankful because I grow up having not having shit.
Speaker 1: You thankful when you get shit.
Speaker 2: So you know, I looked at it and found something
Speaker 2: positive to stay focused on, to be able to be
Speaker 2: like Yo, that's why I'm a channel my energy and
Speaker 2: mine at that time was getting me, getting my family on,
Speaker 2: putting city on.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, this is just my opinion, So you
Speaker 5: don't You could be humble, but in my opinion, you
Speaker 5: put Saint Louis on the map as far as New
Speaker 5: age music.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But we always had a
Speaker 1: lot of it's.
Speaker 5: A lot of jazz, a lot of other things, but
Speaker 5: hip hop. And let me just give you your flowers
Speaker 5: because I know, I realize you're humble, but you are
Speaker 5: the person that was the biggest worldwide star, Like you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm gonna be honest with.
Speaker 5: You if you if you actually google Saint Louis, you're
Speaker 5: probably the first thing that comes up, probably the first
Speaker 5: all second thing that the.
Speaker 2: Only thing I wish I would have did was trademark
Speaker 2: the looh oh you ain't got that tradegas got you?
Speaker 1: Nah? I slept on that with somebody did it. Now
Speaker 1: it's all over Saint Louis. Wow. You know what restaurants
Speaker 1: the baseball team, you.
Speaker 2: Go to the hotel. You know how they got the
Speaker 2: commercial with welcome Welcome to the fourth Seasons Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: The Louis, not the four seasons. So that was the
Speaker 1: only thing. But thank you, Bro. I appreciate that, man.
Speaker 2: But like I said, again, it's a lot of We've
Speaker 2: always had the talent, just never had the light, you know,
Speaker 2: so very much an influence.
Speaker 1: But I'm thankful man, just to be where I'm at.
Speaker 1: That's superball.
Speaker 5: What's the real housewife, Real house Real husbands? Yea, yeah,
Speaker 5: house you know, I'm just like the real husband.
Speaker 1: What is that you? Kevin Hard? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Actually when it first started, it was it started as
Speaker 2: a skit Kevin was doing for because he was hosting
Speaker 2: the BT War. Yeah, and it was the original with me, keV,
Speaker 2: Bobby Brown, yeah, and Nick Cannon. If you look at
Speaker 2: the very first skit that ever was he was hosting
Speaker 2: Funniest Ship too, And I knew right there, like Bobby man,
Speaker 2: Bobby Brown, and he got stories you had.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: I hung out with him at the Waldorf for story
Speaker 5: and I just drink and just shut up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just let him talk that and that he got.
Speaker 1: He got some of the ultimate stories generation story.
Speaker 5: You ain't here that he cooked fried chicken with cocaine.
Speaker 5: He never heard that, the whole fried chicken with cocaine.
Speaker 5: It's in his book, nigga. So that's what I see.
Speaker 5: I see the only story I asked him about. I say,
Speaker 5: what did you do this, nigga? How did you get
Speaker 5: that confused?
Speaker 1: This nigga was telling us a story and out of
Speaker 1: nowhere he just threw this in there. He was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: when I punched Scott Baio and I kept going, we
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, nigga. He was like, what
Speaker 1: what's you talking about? The truck? No? What the girl? No, nigga,
Speaker 1: you punched Scott Baio? Yeah yeah, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2: Know the new audition niggas. Yeah, he would have one.
Speaker 2: It was his prerogative. Though, who you thought this is?
Speaker 1: This is? This is just spitballing.
Speaker 5: When we were coming up, everybody coming up, who think
Speaker 5: God more pushing you a mace? Were ready were ready
Speaker 5: to start the interview. Now, let's that you knocked them down.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. Listen, I ain't gonna lie. You
Speaker 1: was known as a slight, but you know what sniper is, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, long this, yeah, longest, longest Lord.
Speaker 8: I heard a lot about you, man, you brother, give
Speaker 8: me your church, about your jersey, yells.
Speaker 1: You go ahead. I'm married, man, I am to I
Speaker 1: We're gonna reflected this. We reflected reflected respect. He was
Speaker 1: a monster. That was a monster, Dad, straight way, Mom,
Speaker 1: straight up. Especially in the bandaid days. Keep the band
Speaker 1: aid on what you want to see, trow the rise,
Speaker 1: keep that bad day off.
Speaker 5: Because right now, because right now, I'm sorry Prince Montana,
Speaker 5: because right now, right now that they said that Prince
Speaker 5: Montana is the illis sniper.
Speaker 1: Right now he's taking.
Speaker 5: It everything that I'm taking everything down. I'm saying, your dad, Oh,
Speaker 5: do you think anybody could have sucked with you in
Speaker 5: the sniping.
Speaker 1: World and your dad.
Speaker 5: Not in a world on musically we're talking about sniping,
Speaker 5: taking take it down, taking it down, talking about.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to put my cat out there, like,
Speaker 2: but uh, he was the new It was a monster.
Speaker 5: That's your that's your nickname. Oh opposite or you gonna
Speaker 5: throw nigga in the bus. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Over like I'm only from a perspective, only from a perspective.
Speaker 1: Back then, you know, it was posters. You know, you
Speaker 1: go my poet if you got my post on the wall,
Speaker 1: you got you got chuck post on the water. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's that's kind of how it was down there.
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't want to say his name right now,
Speaker 1: but you got apple bottoms. Apple bottoms was a very
Speaker 1: successful Copple Bottoms was more so five years being yeah,
Speaker 1: because we had to go away for a minute. Years.
Speaker 1: Does it take you twenty five No? Not not twenty
Speaker 1: five years.
Speaker 2: I think we came out in oh three many years,
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two with.
Speaker 1: Your pants is your bottoms? It is legally look to
Speaker 1: get a drink.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that came about, you know, hustle mentality, like
Speaker 2: who's my biggest fans? Why am I steady trying to
Speaker 2: sell men's clothes and he was trying to sell men's
Speaker 2: I came out with the men's line first.
Speaker 1: What apple bottles? Oh okay, terrible?
Speaker 2: So yeah, we got we lost that in like oh
Speaker 2: three oh four, and then you know it was made
Speaker 2: a lot of money and.
Speaker 1: You had stores in Dubai.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first class. Yeah, Dubai doesn't was out there
Speaker 2: was out there early.
Speaker 1: Man, How the funk you knew to go to the
Speaker 1: What the fuck? I didn't? Man?
Speaker 2: My partnered with what was up and you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And they knew what was going on over there.
Speaker 2: So they was like, we had been to Dubai maybe
Speaker 2: a couple of times obviously doing shows, but they was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: they're opening up this big ass small out there. Either
Speaker 2: it was just opening or it hadn't been opened that long, right,
Speaker 2: And they were like, we're gonna get your store. And
Speaker 2: I'm thinking we're just going to be in another store
Speaker 2: in there. They was like, no, it's going to be
Speaker 2: an Apple bottom store.
Speaker 1: Flagship's crazy. And we was over there and.
Speaker 2: Line was down the street around the corner all through that,
Speaker 2: and I ain't think we had enough clothes in that
Speaker 2: damn thing for because we were brand new, you know,
Speaker 2: it was more about.
Speaker 1: The look than anything out. I think we had enough
Speaker 1: product in that ship like that. Yeah, you realize how
Speaker 1: your time you was though with everything.
Speaker 2: I try to be like the music, the music, the place,
Speaker 2: the melody.
Speaker 1: All that, Like, yeah, you gotta stay that. You gotta
Speaker 1: stay that way because I feel like.
Speaker 2: If you if you are creet eighteen, then you'll always
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to win. But if you are on
Speaker 2: a wave, if you if you surfing, you know, you
Speaker 2: got niggas who eight and you got.
Speaker 1: Higgas who surfing.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of rappers out here they surfing, and
Speaker 2: that's cool, Like whatever the wave is going, they can
Speaker 2: pull their surfboard out and you know, ride the wave
Speaker 2: of what's going on. But I always try to be
Speaker 2: out there creating waves or or move in anything anything.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it works sometime and don't.
Speaker 2: But again the glasses have full, so I'm gonna figure
Speaker 2: something out real quick.
Speaker 1: Na. Man, you were so ahead of your time with that.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it into the females and then I kid
Speaker 5: you not looking. When I first heard that you were
Speaker 5: in Dubai with a flagship star, I sat back and
Speaker 5: I was just like, why, why wouldn't it be in
Speaker 5: the lou n Two years later I realized how genius
Speaker 5: that was. I was like, you know, I started to
Speaker 5: go in Dubai and I was like, Wow, this motherfucker
Speaker 5: was so ahead of his time. So I just wanted
Speaker 5: to actually, if you know, but let's switch around real quick.
Speaker 5: Do you think you're one of the fathers of the
Speaker 5: rap sing along style?
Speaker 2: I definitely think I'm one of the ones that has
Speaker 2: made popularized popularized.
Speaker 1: They took it and took it to a level.
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to act like, you know, I
Speaker 2: ain't a product of Selo Green, act like I'm not
Speaker 2: a product of arrested Development. I'm not going to act
Speaker 2: like I'm not a product of Bone Thugs in Harmony
Speaker 2: and like you know, all of these.
Speaker 1: Influences even was doing it right, damn along it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but more so in a way of because you know,
Speaker 2: when Bone Thugs came out.
Speaker 1: They were they.
Speaker 2: Were so ahead of their time as well, you didn't
Speaker 2: have a lot of people emulating because I'm sure they
Speaker 2: know of some people, but no people that was on
Speaker 2: you don't you don't look to say it's another you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Also crucial conflict that was not.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that had influenced Nelly, But
Speaker 2: when you're in the middle of the map.
Speaker 1: That's why if you look at any any genre of music, right,
Speaker 1: A lot of the people who are super huge.
Speaker 2: Always come from the middle of the map. Why because
Speaker 2: we are a mixture of everything, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like New York, y'all can get trapped in your own bubble.
Speaker 2: Sometimes everything is following New York, Cali the same way.
Speaker 1: Because y'all so big, y'all have you don't have to live.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: Miami is a is a cult. It's almost like New Orleans.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, And there's nothing more culturally
Speaker 2: blacker than.
Speaker 1: New Orleans, like from the food, to speak, the language,
Speaker 1: the impact, the music. You know, you go down there,
Speaker 1: you like you walk into a time walk because they
Speaker 1: have a parade coming down and it's incredible and it's
Speaker 1: it's it's exhilarating. But when you're in the middle of
Speaker 1: a map, you look at Nelly, middle of the map.
Speaker 1: Kanye is the middle of a map, eminem. Whether you
Speaker 1: agree with him not, He's the middle of a map,
Speaker 1: the middle of the map, say Kanye, whether you are
Speaker 1: or not, well, yeah, whether you agree with Kanye or not,
Speaker 1: I mean, but he's an artist. I don't don't agree
Speaker 1: to Kanye.
Speaker 2: To get life advice, I don't look to know entertainer
Speaker 2: for life advice.
Speaker 1: That's the dumbest shit you could do.
Speaker 2: Like why, like your life mirrors are entertainer, You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We all could be looking at the
Speaker 2: same tree, but we're definitely looking out of different windows,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So, so I don't get
Speaker 2: how people and I don't even mean to break into
Speaker 2: that type of ship, but I don't see how people
Speaker 2: follow celebrities for political advice. That's that's the dumbest shit ever,
Speaker 2: Like why would it. Why would a celebrity give you
Speaker 2: the best advice politically when.
Speaker 1: He really has to believe that. And me, as.
Speaker 2: A man, protector and a father first, everything I think
Speaker 2: about is putting my family first. That's I have no
Speaker 2: choice but to put my family first.
Speaker 1: Not saying I don't care about anybody else, but my
Speaker 1: instant think like I'm gonna put your family before mine?
Speaker 1: Why the fuck am I thinking about you first? So
Speaker 1: why would I.
Speaker 2: Know what policies this gonna best suit you when I'm
Speaker 2: trying to create my generational wealth and what's going to
Speaker 2: help change the course of what my.
Speaker 1: Family has been following.
Speaker 2: So I owe that responsibility to my family. I can't
Speaker 2: yo Pops had at all. What the fuck happened? He
Speaker 2: worried about everybody else, what you mean, and he should
Speaker 2: have been doing this when he worried about how he
Speaker 2: look for everybody else. You can't do no shit like that.
Speaker 2: I don't respect it. I don't respect it.
Speaker 1: Man, not as no.
Speaker 2: Man, Not if you're saying you a father, not when
Speaker 2: you're saying you the head of the household, You the protector,
Speaker 2: You the motherfucker that they.
Speaker 1: See at the doorbell.
Speaker 2: Nah, you could be the nigga on the porch and
Speaker 2: tell your wife to go open the door.
Speaker 1: But my wife ain't opening nw door. I'm going to
Speaker 1: the door now.
Speaker 2: You can talk to her once you get past me.
Speaker 2: But I'm opening the door first, and I'm protecting everything
Speaker 2: in my house. So my natural instinct is going to
Speaker 2: be what best suits my house and if and since
Speaker 2: I can't do that, I remain silent on.
Speaker 1: Politics like that. Like I'm not going to never tell.
Speaker 2: You who you should vote for, who you should vote for.
Speaker 2: I would never tell you to do that, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like you should vote for Yeah, whatever, Chris,
Speaker 2: there they be mixing up them policies. You think you
Speaker 2: voting for this, and you fuck around and this is
Speaker 2: on the bill, like damn nigga, I thought I thought
Speaker 2: I was getting loans for underprivileged communities. Fuck around, and
Speaker 2: you didn't cut some security for your granny.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I told you mother. They didn't tell
Speaker 1: me that. You know what I'm saying. So you know
Speaker 1: that ship is it's a hard time to watch.
Speaker 5: Well, we want you to know that they Our show
Speaker 5: is about giving people their flowers where they can smell them.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: They thoughts when they can think of them, and they
Speaker 5: drinks when they can drink it, and we want to
Speaker 5: give you your flower I appreciate right.
Speaker 1: Now to your face, face to face, man, and man.
Speaker 8: Shut up.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something, Judge. Make it.
Speaker 5: We're gonna make it just retirment section as a snipe,
Speaker 5: but we're gonna put it right over there, put it
Speaker 5: right up there.
Speaker 1: But it was all day.
Speaker 5: Because you know, I'm gonna be honest with you, it's
Speaker 5: only really three people in this industry that I actually
Speaker 5: seen like come up from like like almost well, I
Speaker 5: didn't know at the beginning stages in Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: But when you came to New York, I know your
Speaker 1: story from there.
Speaker 5: I've seen your story, five story and fifty story and
Speaker 5: I love that ship. Like it's like it's like you
Speaker 5: ever see somebody and you just know that they're gonna
Speaker 5: they're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Like I know. I say that and it sounds so simple.
Speaker 1: But the truth I saw like that I saw.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I saw for real, I was just like,
Speaker 5: he's weird, but he's gonna make it. He's gonna go
Speaker 5: like it's not me, it's not me. But guess what,
Speaker 5: I'm not me the world. I'm a minute person. The
Speaker 5: world is different.
Speaker 1: Ya.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like being hood is like
Speaker 5: two percent of the world's population. They can't really I
Speaker 5: made those Yeah, but what I'm saying everyone can't relate.
Speaker 1: To being the hood thigga, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I to moving on.
Speaker 5: We got your flowers, yo. Now it's a quick time
Speaker 5: of slim. Well, let's talk about the alcohol real quick.
Speaker 1: Ye shine, Yeah, it's yeah mode shine, it's a moonshine.
Speaker 1: So again, ain't nobody slanging that.
Speaker 2: And again it's about knowing your knowing your lane knowing
Speaker 2: who you can or take serving services to a different ship.
Speaker 2: So uh, most shine right here, you know. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: this is the thing though too. We actually got a
Speaker 2: chance to uh man, I don't say, yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: be careful with this ship.
Speaker 1: I ain't even not to tell you.
Speaker 2: So at the time I had partner with somebody different,
Speaker 2: but actually the same thing I had to do with
Speaker 2: Apple Bottoms before we blew up. Now I got to
Speaker 2: do it with this because you know, when you first
Speaker 2: getting into things, you sometimes you you know, your first
Speaker 2: record deals is not your best deal. Find out what
Speaker 2: the fuck is going on, and you find out the
Speaker 2: lanes and the avenues that you need to go down
Speaker 2: to get to the place you talking about.
Speaker 1: So but this is something man, that.
Speaker 2: You know, kind of came up with because I'm actually,
Speaker 2: like you were saying, being kind of ahead of the game,
Speaker 2: being one of the first people that was able to
Speaker 2: be in a different lane and still be itself as
Speaker 2: far as like country music, pop music and all this
Speaker 2: other ship and the country world.
Speaker 1: And I always because the niggas drink moonshine.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, country niggas fuck moonshine.
Speaker 1: Up.
Speaker 5: I've seen the episode on Netflix about Moonshine. Yeah, they
Speaker 5: were still there was I was illegal and all that.
Speaker 1: Like I like that ship. This is the legal moon.
Speaker 1: This is the legal moon shine right here. Man. So yeah,
Speaker 1: like again, you gotta be careful with it. Man, it
Speaker 1: is very tasty, I would say in a play, Uh,
Speaker 1: that could be dangerous. Yeah, that's the thing. You look
Speaker 1: up and you then fucked up the whole bottle, and
Speaker 1: sometimes that may not be good because I see it's
Speaker 1: peace flavor. Yeah, gotta little got a little flavor.
Speaker 5: Definitely like the ladies to get a little saucy. I
Speaker 5: respect that because I mean they got to pour their
Speaker 5: own drinks. Yeah, everybody.
Speaker 1: The rules of the game. This is our drinking game. Ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be drinking. Mm hmm. Now I'm gonna do some.
Speaker 2: Most shots since we well, wait a minute, how many questions?
Speaker 1: It's questions that depends on you to drink. Okay, look,
Speaker 1: let me give them. Let me give him the decide
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. We're gonna give you two choices.
Speaker 8: If you pick one of the choices, we're not drinking.
Speaker 8: But if you say both are neither, like you don't
Speaker 8: want to answer basics.
Speaker 1: Then we all drink. We all shot.
Speaker 8: Are we drinking with you? We don't leave you if
Speaker 8: you don't answer the question. But if you answer, then
Speaker 8: we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't drink. Keep them. Okay, so everybody's gonna be
Speaker 1: drinking most you're gonna be drinking shots. What the fuck
Speaker 1: is that game? Don't worry about it. We are drink.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you do a shot. Okay, I'm gonna set it off.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm not all ready.
Speaker 8: Mason Cam, Mason.
Speaker 1: Cam, yep, and that you got to this is about h.
Speaker 2: I would probably say Killer only because.
Speaker 1: From the time I met Killer, he's always showed me love.
Speaker 2: Mace, and this just could have been where he was
Speaker 2: at in his life that I was in when I
Speaker 2: was introduced to him.
Speaker 1: He was already with puff.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, that was already could have been cool to
Speaker 5: love be because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, yeah, I was with cooler, but I don't
Speaker 1: used to. Don't like how you shipped it all at
Speaker 1: that time.
Speaker 2: My my little brother Cardan, he shopped on Cardi because
Speaker 2: Cardy was in Harlem World and he kicked at that.
Speaker 1: Time, he had kicked Cardy out of Hall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and didn't let Cardy be in the video that
Speaker 2: first video with the halling car done.
Speaker 1: Call on Cardi B. It's gonna No, I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: Cardi B. You know, I said, Cardi B in the
Speaker 1: video card everything, Yeah, Cardi BE. I don't know what
Speaker 1: did I say? No, No, you're right, You're right. You
Speaker 1: was right. We heard that Cardi B was in the video. No,
Speaker 1: not that. Now are we talking about it?
Speaker 9: I can't see I I don't know run.
Speaker 2: But no, at that time, Cardy was like fifteen years old.
Speaker 2: He was young man, and it really fucked him up
Speaker 2: that whatever happened happened. And I was that's when I
Speaker 2: was just trying to get on and I saw how
Speaker 2: I hurt.
Speaker 1: He was out like, man, don't worry about that ship. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm about to get on.
Speaker 2: Man, We're gonna you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 2: had a disdained for Mace.
Speaker 1: And so is that probably why when y'all met the energy,
Speaker 1: Was it you more or was it him? No? I
Speaker 1: mean eventually it got a ship ship ton better figured
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because again it was it wasn't that
Speaker 2: he felt the way that he felt. But again, if
Speaker 2: I come in there, if I come with you and
Speaker 2: the door, were leaving out that the same mother fucking
Speaker 2: dough together.
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't bringing nobody with me. I ain't
Speaker 1: leaving with you know.
Speaker 2: So at that time, Cardy was my with my family,
Speaker 2: so he had her part of the family and I was.
Speaker 1: Like, shit, fuck that nigga. But it wasn't like that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't always like that, because Mason's cool as fuck
Speaker 2: now you know what I'm saying, and we're super dope.
Speaker 1: But from the time I met Killer, it's all love.
Speaker 5: Right, This is a controversy question no ship Kendrick or Drake.
Speaker 2: As far as it's whatever here like that, Like asked that, Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you can't. You can't take away the artists
Speaker 2: of Drake. You can't take away what is what his
Speaker 2: artistry is to dude make hiss like he was making
Speaker 2: his He's doing his thing. Kendrick is Kendrick, He's he's
Speaker 2: a I don't know, like because I want to say
Speaker 2: Kendrick is holding down a whole coast to a certain degree,
Speaker 2: but then someone might say Drake is holding down a
Speaker 2: whole country. But you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But it's a great point, but it's a difference of
Speaker 5: feelings taking a shot.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm just help you outness.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 1: He was about to get very statistic.
Speaker 5: Shot because because you go to the like skinkarate class
Speaker 5: with Drake, we know that what.
Speaker 1: I'm saying is enjoy the explanation. And you ruined me.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I want to drink. If you look at
Speaker 1: if you look at Kendrick, you you you.
Speaker 2: Think of more of a traditional hip hop superstar.
Speaker 1: When you look at you just think of superstar.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, even though he is hip
Speaker 2: hop and not saying he ain't did his did his thing,
Speaker 2: but it's just different.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, I don't know why.
Speaker 2: People be so mad at him, though, I mean I
Speaker 2: understand to a certain degree. But again, it was never
Speaker 2: about relating to Drake's life. I've never the man. He
Speaker 2: started at the bottom, like he said, he was living
Speaker 2: at his mama house. My mama never had a house.
Speaker 2: I don't know if his bottom is his mama's house.
Speaker 2: I'm not again, I'm not looking at life advice from
Speaker 2: somebody who mama got a house.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to these bangers.
Speaker 2: He making the nigga making banging ass rackers, he knocking
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers out, So you know, I praise his.
Speaker 1: Hit making artistry. Kendrick is.
Speaker 2: Part of coming from a different coming from where we
Speaker 2: come from.
Speaker 1: That's how you look at it.
Speaker 2: I don't think Drake came from where we came from.
Speaker 2: But when somebody makes it coming from where you come from,
Speaker 2: you look at them a little different.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They get a little bit more of a validation because
Speaker 2: you understand and you understand the fight that they had
Speaker 2: to to get to where they are, and you could
Speaker 2: be like, man, they might not have made it, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But if somebody who started somewhere
Speaker 2: that you can't relate, you just appreciate what they do,
Speaker 2: Like Drake is a phenomenal artist. Kendrick is somebody who
Speaker 2: you be like, Yo that I know that Nigga, I
Speaker 2: could have knew Kendrick. I probably would have never known Drake,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So I appreciate Drake's music and
Speaker 2: the artistry.
Speaker 1: And I took the shot for noh, so you picked
Speaker 1: I guess if you didn't. And I don't like politics,
Speaker 1: I just did. I like that. Chiggy or Ja Kwan,
Speaker 1: the lou wants you to take a shot. I definitely
Speaker 1: was gonna do that. Do it anyway, I know what
Speaker 1: ye m hm.
Speaker 2: Now, Jay Kwan is my nephew, like literally, so you're
Speaker 2: not now, but it's family to the sense of Jay
Speaker 2: Kwan was super young when he came into the game.
Speaker 2: You know, when you come into the game and you're fifteen,
Speaker 2: sixteen years old, nigga and you you you're the one
Speaker 2: paying the bills, it's a different life.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a different life when you're that young.
Speaker 2: And now you go from being told what to do,
Speaker 2: to tell the niggas what to do and you don't
Speaker 2: even know, you're not old enough to know why you're
Speaker 2: telling him to do it.
Speaker 1: So that's just a difference.
Speaker 2: Even Missy, Missy, but I like Eve, but Missy, if
Speaker 2: I had to pick.
Speaker 1: Miss like, man, we got your money. Look you said
Speaker 1: that ship boy, there's I want the next answer? Sexy
Speaker 1: read a glorilla red. Yeah, yeah, I'm always right for
Speaker 1: the loop like this, how the loo work outside of
Speaker 1: the loop. Can't nobody talk? You can't. You can't do that.
Speaker 1: Now we'll talk about each other in the loop, right,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, but if you're not
Speaker 1: from there, because we don't have enough.
Speaker 2: We don't have a lot of artists like y'all got.
Speaker 2: We ain't got a lot of motherfuckers like Atlanta got
Speaker 2: to be able to look like something, we.
Speaker 1: Are really all we got. So we can't do that.
Speaker 1: You know what, I man not not to know outsiders. I
Speaker 1: can't do that.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you something. I was hosting the BT
Speaker 5: red carpet.
Speaker 1: Hm.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's the only wrapper I've ever ran from in
Speaker 5: my whole life.
Speaker 1: That you ran from.
Speaker 5: Sexy rad only rapper I've listened. I might have caught
Speaker 5: losses in life or never caught losses in this industry.
Speaker 5: I won every battle I've had it rap right me?
Speaker 5: Just I mean, I ain't talking about battle, but Sexy
Speaker 5: Red the only person that made me run. Why is
Speaker 5: that I'm on the red carpet? She read, just walking
Speaker 5: through you know what? You know what I mean, sex
Speaker 5: he Red is walking through.
Speaker 1: The nigga with the headbong's laughs. She stopped.
Speaker 5: She stopped, and she looked at the red carpet and
Speaker 5: she must have said, Yo, I'm gonna make this different,
Speaker 5: So mind you I'm with I'm with the other wingers
Speaker 5: over there. You know what I mean, Like these niggas,
Speaker 5: these niggas don't got no platinum records.
Speaker 1: These niggas ain't made it in R album. Niggas ain't discussing, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: For I'm standing there with a bunch of friends, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, only ship. But Sexy Ragon comes.
Speaker 5: She gonna recognize me, and she gonna you know so.
Speaker 5: But I'm sitting there and she looks at all all
Speaker 5: the franks, she says, she pulls out her money and
Speaker 5: starts making it rain. Ran my thinking it was a
Speaker 5: picture of the sixty red making you read you.
Speaker 1: People the you know I did the thirty youngs out.
Speaker 5: I was like, yo, that's the last thing I needed
Speaker 5: to be on tubal Oh man, what's the ship too?
Speaker 1: We too? We too me? And I'm like.
Speaker 10: A d what what.
Speaker 1: So if any there's no rapper in this world made
Speaker 1: me rad. But I give you you probably had the
Speaker 1: first nigga she made.
Speaker 2: Because Shy mean that man, she means that if anything
Speaker 2: she she she is definitely putting on.
Speaker 1: But she's authentic, man, She's authentic and gonna respect it. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe our heart.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I know that metro booming or murder Beads's.
Speaker 1: Take a shot stroke for stroll.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna take a shot because I don't want
Speaker 2: both stroke.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make you strength yea. Yeah, we're good. Okay,
Speaker 1: goo ahead, because you didn't go out with me the
Speaker 1: other night. I ain't gonna that has never happened. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you, nigga, I could call Noria anytime. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said you.
Speaker 10: I said, Yo, I'm coming down, nigga, I got I got.
Speaker 1: Eleven on Saturday. You know what I'm saying, like, come
Speaker 1: on out. You know when that pause I said, he said,
Speaker 1: I said, damn think I ain't never. I hain't never
Speaker 1: heard him breathe. I ain't never.
Speaker 10: Like I never know how you living. So I'm a check,
Speaker 10: come in check, come a check. I never heard this
Speaker 10: nigga free a day in his life. I don't know
Speaker 10: how you let my.
Speaker 5: Card In two seconds, he was like, come to the
Speaker 5: living of the night. I was like, okay the way
Speaker 5: I said it because I was like, I want to
Speaker 5: be some pokus and he just he said, I get it.
Speaker 1: I get He told me I'm a I'm a grandfather.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use I have to but that he can't
Speaker 1: call me granddaddy, Papa. I want you what you got
Speaker 1: tupop oh tupop, oh ship tupop, and he ever called
Speaker 1: me granddaddy out of the wheels. God damn right, don't
Speaker 1: come in here with that was a grand You better
Speaker 1: be having money in your I gotta get my own
Speaker 1: published in I gotta take him some ship. He can
Speaker 1: say tupop or tupa. But no, no, don't come here
Speaker 1: with that granddaddy. Oh man, big pun of both rest
Speaker 1: in peace, Yeah to both. Definitely. Uh Again, being from
Speaker 1: the Midwest, we didn't really get a chance to enjoy
Speaker 1: pun right.
Speaker 2: Because we only had a selective fewer songs that that
Speaker 2: that that was able to make it.
Speaker 1: On the station in Saint Louis and down there. So,
Speaker 1: but you know, his genius and just his his lyrical flaw.
Speaker 2: It's definitely underrated as a lyricist, pun is I mean
Speaker 2: you know, then you're talking about Biggie, who's probably regarded
Speaker 2: as one of the the best, off one of the best,
Speaker 2: depending on.
Speaker 1: Where you ask it. So but I'm gonna say Biggie,
Speaker 1: but no disrespect to pun at all. You ever got
Speaker 1: to meet Big No, okay, no, no, that don't got
Speaker 1: to beat pop? Well I saw pock and past Pac
Speaker 1: never had it, pod hasn't yours? Times in Saint Louis?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah? Who St. Louis? Yeah like that I like
Speaker 1: that word times? Yeah yeah really yeah, uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean Saint Louis. You all know.
Speaker 2: As a young as a young hen you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, like as a younger, But them old niggas,
Speaker 2: one of them old Saint Louis niggas over there, even
Speaker 2: he probably know a little bit more Bob know, a
Speaker 2: little bit more detail about what could actually happened like that,
Speaker 2: because Bob was you know, Bob was like a local
Speaker 2: terrorist at the time. He used to he used to
Speaker 2: own the hottest club in Saint Look. Well his family
Speaker 2: did call club Casino. They used to call it the Beano.
Speaker 2: That's where we used to break some of our records.
Speaker 2: In Ward six point eight, who actually broke country Grandmar
Speaker 2: That's the club he was in, and it used to
Speaker 2: be the hottest club in the lou And you would
Speaker 2: come there like when you like still in high school.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be eighteen older but you.
Speaker 2: Come to that motherfucker when you're like fifteen sixty because
Speaker 2: they got the cut though outday they got the side dough.
Speaker 2: You come to the side door, boom, you might have
Speaker 2: to pay like twenty five dollars. And Bob used to
Speaker 2: work there, and that motherfucker tored me sixty five.
Speaker 1: Dollars to get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, old nigga, hold on, listen, listen, I don't jump
Speaker 4: out yourself.
Speaker 1: And so we come. I don't know who the fuck
Speaker 1: y'all had in that was it E forty and the
Speaker 1: Click or the fab the whole family or some shit.
Speaker 1: So it's ram nigga. We come to the door, it's
Speaker 1: usually it's only five dollars. It's only five dollars going
Speaker 1: through the front door. Twenty five dollars usually, you know,
Speaker 1: on a regular Saturday night at the side dough. So
Speaker 1: I always come through the side door, nigga, because I
Speaker 1: was baby face pinster.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like even if I were
Speaker 2: old enough, I still wasn't gonna fucking get it, So
Speaker 2: I'll go through.
Speaker 1: The side door. But this day, now, mind, you only
Speaker 1: got a hundred and fifteen dollars in my pocket? Wait,
Speaker 1: how old are you doing? At that time, I was
Speaker 1: like seventeen okay, but I got one hundred and like
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars in my pocket bottle with more. That's twenty
Speaker 1: five dollars to take. Yeah, take pictures sometimes, listen, take pictures.
Speaker 1: You could get three pitches. You can get two pictures.
Speaker 2: For ten dollars, or you could get like I think
Speaker 2: it was like four pitches for.
Speaker 1: Like fifteen dollars or some shit like that. Right, you
Speaker 1: know the pictures. You have to chance she ain't. You
Speaker 1: gotta have the background. Some nigga is drunk, her brushed
Speaker 1: us and shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: At the time, you like, the.
Speaker 1: Ship is flyes. So I'm like, yeah, boom, this nigga
Speaker 1: shrowd me sixty five dollars to get this shitney my
Speaker 1: whole night. I got to reschedule when rep you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I got to set out a
Speaker 1: whole nother budget.
Speaker 2: Somebody ain't getting no drink. So but I went through
Speaker 2: that motherfucker. That's how I met Bob. Wasn't on good terms,
Speaker 2: but he's a good dude now because he's a granddad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: For the grand daddy, long as you are to reach me,
Speaker 1: long as y'all.
Speaker 5: That's that's as long as I underrated five movie man
Speaker 5: that reached me.
Speaker 1: Ship Man, I don't know about underrated that motherfucker made life.
Speaker 1: I'm a little upset. I should have charged motive. Yeah, nigga,
Speaker 1: I was on fire right around that time.
Speaker 2: I should have changed a little more. But there was
Speaker 2: Adam Sandler Chris Rock.
Speaker 1: That was a great nigga because Rentalds. Let me tell you, nigga,
Speaker 1: let me tell you how how I found out, how
Speaker 1: far he was, how you swat he had? So my
Speaker 1: granny at this time that mind you, This was two
Speaker 1: thousand and four Country Grammar than did Nellyville just coming
Speaker 1: out with Sweatsuit the double album, Like I'm on fire.
Speaker 1: I'm look, this is fire, Granny. Granny is still that's nice,
Speaker 1: not at all. I'm still Cornell like I'm probably always be.
Speaker 1: But she was like, that's nice, Cornell. Yeah. I was like, Granny,
Speaker 1: I'm doing the Grammars. Yeah, I saw you on the Grammars. Baby,
Speaker 1: you look good. I just had to tell you. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw the football thing when you ran out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was good. You look good.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you know you can't get no rounds.
Speaker 2: I'm like, shit, okay, so I'm doing the I heard
Speaker 2: you doing it. We're sitting around and.
Speaker 1: She's like, I heard you doing the movie. I was like, yeah, Granny,
Speaker 1: I'm doing a movie. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: a football movie. Boh. I'm explaining to her, good baby,
Speaker 1: I hope you have fun.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if my auntie somebody said tell
Speaker 2: her who all tell.
Speaker 1: Her who in the movie. And I'm not thinking nothing
Speaker 1: of it. I'm not thinking nothing of it. My Brandy
Speaker 1: is like seventy year old black Saint Louis lady, not
Speaker 1: thinking nothing of it. I know I know who she married.
Speaker 1: My granddad. There was a motherfucker. Oh brod. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like straight like that, and I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, Adam saying that I know she's my granny.
Speaker 1: Don't know none of these people, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Adam said, look, you know Chris Rock because
Speaker 1: she you know.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, Adam saying, look, Chris Rock. Bird
Speaker 2: Renalds who.
Speaker 1: Bird Renals b Renalds who that my boy?
Speaker 10: I said, Yo, here you are, Brandy Fan is the
Speaker 10: most disgusting ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like you like? She like
Speaker 1: b renals? Well, yes you in the movie? What so
Speaker 1: what you're doing?
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, Grammys all that ship at this time?
Speaker 1: Twenty two million record? It doesn't even matter.
Speaker 4: She ain't.
Speaker 1: That's good baby, Burt reynolds Man.
Speaker 2: We had a whole conversation for about fifteen We ain't
Speaker 2: never talked fifteen minutes about my job, Like probably altogether,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I tell her what's well? She wanted to know, Burt random,
Speaker 1: why y'all feeling this movie? So tell me about what
Speaker 1: are you doing? You do it? I say, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: playing a running back. You didn't play you was a receiver.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm just playing it in the movie.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Because you know, she know
Speaker 2: about what I was doing. She was like, now you
Speaker 2: play receiver. You don't play running back. No, Grannie, I'm
Speaker 2: playing it in the movie.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Okay, you little.
Speaker 2: That's That's why I started living Oh small as ship. No, No, no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: hell y'all you be on set. You got all these
Speaker 2: great people on set, and these motherfuckers is telling stories
Speaker 2: sitting in the chair, and then your man bird Rental
Speaker 2: sits back like this and goes, everybody shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: Niggas ain't even filming. He's stopping the whole movie.
Speaker 2: Everybody want to hear this story because you don't know
Speaker 2: what year this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You just don't. You don't have You don't know if
Speaker 1: it's finna be the Hustle magazine, the Playboy magazine, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be blind brutee. You don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a dignitary politician.
Speaker 4: You do not know.
Speaker 1: He's got him all and he sits back like this,
Speaker 1: and everybody shuts the fuck up. Adam Sander telling jokes.
Speaker 1: Everybody cracking up. Chris Rocks is telling jokes. We got
Speaker 1: like nine comedians, you know how, they start firing at
Speaker 1: each other and going around, so it's hilarious.
Speaker 2: And Burt's just, you know, I remember shit shut down,
Speaker 2: and man, it was awesome. He told us some stories,
Speaker 2: some shit I can't really say right here.
Speaker 1: He got family sniper. He was like, you know, bo man.
Speaker 2: Boy man, because I mean again, you see how elderly
Speaker 2: black lady spoke up about him.
Speaker 1: So imagine what you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like I probably, yeah, he probably
Speaker 2: top three. You probably top three sniper of all time.
Speaker 2: No Dad, for me gotta be top three sniper of
Speaker 2: all time, all time.
Speaker 1: Okay, illmatic or reasonable doubt. I'm from the loo. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a shot. Okay, I respect that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a shot. I'm gonna take a I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a shot. I love how you put the shot down
Speaker 1: first before you take it. I like, I said, really,
Speaker 1: I know that. He said, yeah, here, alcoholic, don't say that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I noticed.
Speaker 8: I know, I I know that.
Speaker 5: At that moment, it's like, you know, I paced myself.
Speaker 5: This is we got it together. Try to like when
Speaker 5: you're going to keep it. This is keeping it together.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: He said, alcohol I know alcoholic. They got to go
Speaker 2: to meet because I'm a drunk.
Speaker 1: Tupaca easy rest and piece of Tupac Tupac love easy
Speaker 1: though bent easy. But that's not a So you got
Speaker 1: no stories of Park, just the stories that I ain't got. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that Easy got the hardest line
Speaker 1: in the world to me, he said, ice cube right
Speaker 1: the rhymes that I say, I was like niggas that
Speaker 1: day that was hard and shout out to d O C.
Speaker 1: Drink chams a lot night. I just found out that
Speaker 1: his story that easy.
Speaker 8: I know everybody chronic all that, like y'all don't even know,
Speaker 8: like but Forrett Easy, for stare of accompetence, that the
Speaker 8: d O C might be.
Speaker 1: The biggest What if his voice was and what it like?
Speaker 1: What could have been like? Because that whole album you'll
Speaker 1: see what you young niggas like, what are talking about?
Speaker 1: Not easy? It was easy?
Speaker 8: It was It was you'll see the super legends Kevin
Speaker 8: Hart or Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 1: keV. I love Dave, but keV is my brother. You know.
Speaker 1: I told you I came in the dough with a
Speaker 1: nigga like it's not gonna.
Speaker 2: You asked me about family, and you asked me about somebody.
Speaker 1: Who I like admire. I'm always roll with the family respect,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So just putting that.
Speaker 8: Any any good funny Kevin Hart story, you can tell us.
Speaker 1: Both y'all not not knowing what they say. If you
Speaker 1: don't want it out there, don't put it out there enough,
Speaker 1: you know, so rap City or your MTV raps.
Speaker 2: Rap City, rap City, I don't even think was Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I was on yr MTV reps.
Speaker 1: I think I did. I think.
Speaker 2: See your MTV raps just always felt like they were
Speaker 2: working for the man. Really, it just felt like they
Speaker 2: were working for the man, because you know, I'm old
Speaker 2: enough to.
Speaker 1: Know the history of MTV. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the principal office.
Speaker 8: And they were lucky to get a lover doctor drec.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. They were lucky. But you
Speaker 1: did get rocking jobs, right, you did rocking Jock Wall
Speaker 1: m TV. Yeah, yeah, the damn Marino Nick. Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking on. Let's let me tell you something. I
Speaker 1: am the the great test.
Speaker 2: Musician athlete of all time rapper athlete of all time.
Speaker 1: I say that because I don't play now I used
Speaker 1: to play. I am the greatest rap e lete of
Speaker 1: all time. Check my usually play baseball.
Speaker 2: I have all three m vps baseball and jock football,
Speaker 2: basketball and baseball and softball.
Speaker 1: Whatever else you want to do, check my check so
Speaker 1: if so, if but who all right? That don't mean
Speaker 1: that if I was playing basketball now it's it's some
Speaker 1: rappers that can probably out hoot me.
Speaker 5: But if we go through all three sports, all right,
Speaker 5: so two on two, who will be a partner?
Speaker 1: And what in basketball? What is what is wrong? It's you?
Speaker 1: You can get what I'm saying. Who against Gilly and Wallow?
Speaker 1: Who do I have? And see see Gilly? Gilly can
Speaker 1: hoop his asshole Gilly. Just I just got old. I
Speaker 1: wish I could have. I wish I could have hooped.
Speaker 2: Against Gilly when I when I was like when I
Speaker 2: was like forty sir, Oh, be honest, Gilly, I'm fifty.
Speaker 1: He like forty eight? Now, Billy, Like, for what is
Speaker 1: he he forty a or forty seven? He just forty?
Speaker 1: Didn't stop niggah three years? Map know, once your cross
Speaker 1: out the threshold, hold on Gilly ate forty one nigga, nigga.
Speaker 4: He was with Wayne, she was with Young Money. He
Speaker 4: wasn't with Big Tandy his knees and go out. Yeah,
Speaker 4: forty nigga. I was still doing backflips, you man. I
Speaker 4: just did a backflip on Dancing.
Speaker 1: With the Stars. I was forty eight, forty eight years
Speaker 1: and you did a back flip on dance with the store.
Speaker 1: That's just let you. When I was forty if if
Speaker 1: I who figures without forty, I can still dunk in forty?
Speaker 1: Fuck you mean, so what year you think you lost
Speaker 1: to that? Last year I turned fifty? I ain't never
Speaker 1: seen no nigga in the NBA and fifty, I ain't
Speaker 1: never see see when you an age and you seen
Speaker 1: niggas still in sports, you know, and you come from sports.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: I come from sports. You know. I always love music.
Speaker 2: And actually I wasn't even the first uh person in
Speaker 2: my family to make a record. My uncle Rudy Rested
Speaker 2: Peace was the first one to actually make a record
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty eight. That was in my family, saying,
Speaker 2: last thing, everything Rudy hains and that's who got me
Speaker 2: in the music.
Speaker 1: He used to have me like at.
Speaker 2: Seven eight nine years old singing Jackson five records and
Speaker 2: had my whole family is back up and shit like that,
Speaker 2: and taught me notes and chords and shit. And you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, so yo, my love for music
Speaker 2: came as a whole other ship. But I was playing
Speaker 2: sports baseball, football, basketball, basketball with my was my my
Speaker 2: weakest spoke.
Speaker 1: But everything else I'm now God damn good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you better not saying that. Do y'all even play football?
Speaker 1: New York basketball court right here? Oh? No, I can shoot.
Speaker 1: I ain't playing no defense straight in it for the
Speaker 1: straight For my defense is I go left and right?
Speaker 1: That's it? Help.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Flesh of My Flesh or is dark and Hell
Speaker 8: is hot DMX albums obviously flesh Flesh, Flesh rest.
Speaker 1: In pieces, Jada Kiss or Styles p mm hmm. Kiss
Speaker 1: Now it's just only to my this is yeah, only
Speaker 1: to my I know kiss Kiss has always showed Nelly love.
Speaker 1: I do no styles, I love them, but I have
Speaker 1: more of an interaction, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: all of them, you know what I'm saying. So ya, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fucked up too, because they.
Speaker 2: Ship kind of got stalled by some unfortunate things. Because
Speaker 2: they could have they they was on fire, they had
Speaker 2: a big could have had a hell of a run,
Speaker 2: especially I mean they had it though, no, they definitely did.
Speaker 2: That would show you that it could.
Speaker 1: It could have been because the run they had, they
Speaker 1: had to overcome so much ship career wise to be
Speaker 1: able to do that so you know what it's like.
Speaker 1: It's just like Nigga.
Speaker 8: If you ain't fucked up the comp money, you have
Speaker 8: a lot more, but you went to the crap game.
Speaker 8: But it shows you what kind of club they are
Speaker 8: to overcome it.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Like what the verses has done for them when they've
Speaker 8: done after that is crazy.
Speaker 1: No, man, they they they top five goat group. I
Speaker 1: respect that acting or rapping. Rapping. Actually, so when they
Speaker 1: came without rapping, right ya, like some of a bitch good,
Speaker 1: Well the city, I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll
Speaker 1: take it. This this one Mob Deep or mop Mob Deep,
Speaker 1: I don't know, direspect them m O P. But I
Speaker 1: don't think I know the brothers.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I I don't want to respect
Speaker 2: them like if I ever met him before, you know.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying I haven't interacted with them enough to
Speaker 2: know if I have or something like that. So I
Speaker 2: don't want to disrespect them because they hauled the fuck.
Speaker 2: But you know Mob Deep.
Speaker 1: I did. I did a joint with them, Meet them
Speaker 1: and Missy one of my favorite records. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, l A or Miami Miami. Thank you, Miami. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm both. I'm both.
Speaker 2: I don't want to only because you're asking the fifty
Speaker 2: old niggah who who you know.
Speaker 1: Like the Hill You know you come down here to
Speaker 1: retire nigga.
Speaker 2: Like you're asking a nigga who approaching retirement age like Miami. Yeah,
Speaker 2: definitely l A is that. But I don't know the
Speaker 2: good hard working people in l A. I telling people
Speaker 2: that all the time. I ain't never been to the
Speaker 2: to the real l A. I only know Hollywood h
Speaker 2: and all of that ship in the industry. So I
Speaker 2: don't judge that.
Speaker 1: On the hard working, every day people that were brought
Speaker 1: up and raised in l A. I only know these
Speaker 1: super superficial motherfuckers and niggas Butler Butler, Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and gang bangers and ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: So you know that's that's a lot of good folks
Speaker 8: in l A. Robin Thinker, Oh, justin timper Lake.
Speaker 1: It's the white boy question, Robin think again, that's family.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rival family.
Speaker 2: And I told you again your boy, just your boy
Speaker 2: through the sister out there. I said, I don't know
Speaker 2: why people don't trip out that.
Speaker 1: Like that nigga knew what was gonna happen. He said,
Speaker 1: I had no idea about Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, man,
Speaker 1: that nigga knew what was gonna happen.
Speaker 4: He was in on that.
Speaker 1: They rehearsed that man, that man knew that ship if
Speaker 1: he didn't need to be like, damn, like, you ain't
Speaker 1: seeing I ain't gonna cut the bull the motherfucker, Tedy.
Speaker 1: You was like, you know, that's the first thing you
Speaker 1: have said. It was like, oh God, what's Oh you're
Speaker 1: gonna trying to cover up or something. Nigga. You posed,
Speaker 1: But Johnny got that man obviously, But that's irrelevant.
Speaker 11: Nor all right, man, I know j T your man.
Speaker 11: He like, but Jenny was in on the two me
Speaker 11: it's nothing. Man didn't get no slack that nigga went.
Speaker 2: Out there half a hell of a career, like and
Speaker 2: Jazz Ship got Paul Nigga and forever stained this. Niggas
Speaker 2: aren't too stupid doing ship with jay Z and everybody. Nigga,
Speaker 2: I was hot, Yeah, Jenny was my sister. I was
Speaker 2: like my sister, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was hot, like you watch me Penny in real life.
Speaker 2: That's why, because you Jermaine all that like like like again,
Speaker 2: this is family, bro. When you watch unfair ship happen
Speaker 2: to motherfuckers who you give a funk about?
Speaker 1: You like, hey, man, whoa who whoa whoa whoa whoa
Speaker 1: whoa champ this nigga Egypt he good caught a penny though, right, Penny? No, man,
Speaker 1: he did not color Penny.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: Now you've been there, Okay, I don't think he would.
Speaker 8: He asked if you called her Oh no me, No,
Speaker 8: you ain't sing good times her penancer?
Speaker 5: No man, of course when I when I see Peter Parker,
Speaker 5: I'll be like your nigga. You you different man, see
Speaker 5: Spider Man like wher man nigga was so.
Speaker 1: Call her niggas Jackson, Penny, you're not.
Speaker 8: I'm just asking now, I'm asking for a friend. You
Speaker 8: could first name, No, he's never did it. Next one
Speaker 8: Michael Jackson or Prince.
Speaker 1: What Michael Jackson you talking about? Hand even know? Yeah? Why? Wow?
Speaker 1: Looks like you should wear Michael Jackson the zippers. I
Speaker 1: feel like like at one point you had the zipper
Speaker 1: chaps in your ass out What are you talking about
Speaker 1: like who like better than some high hands in your
Speaker 1: talking about? Like, how is that a good prod? It real? Like, no,
Speaker 1: I love friends. He's like, but what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Mike and plus you are you snipers? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike was a snipers. Yeah. He's like cheers rock and
Speaker 1: fellow rough riders. I'm a drink, yeah I do.
Speaker 2: Somebody called it out like, yeah, I'm a drink because
Speaker 2: I thought with both of that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. They motherfucker stacking up cut that's you noy go.
Speaker 1: That's you noy Where your grandpa glasses, don't you grandfather?
Speaker 1: I'mna just I'm gonna just be flying, nigga. I alright cool.
Speaker 1: Jordan and Lebron Jordan Jordan. I was born in the seventies, nigga,
Speaker 1: But I'm not taking nothing away from Lebron because some
Speaker 1: of my family members of Stone and I get it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's always the moment.
Speaker 2: What you see and when real time is gonna always
Speaker 2: have more effect on you than what you heard about.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So Rick Ross and Fat
Speaker 1: Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe's Jones's family not love for
Speaker 1: love for Roth, but Joe's family. I want to point
Speaker 1: something out to you. A lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 5: I was hanging out with jay Z and Fat Joe
Speaker 5: had one of the biggest records all the way up.
Speaker 5: I believe that's what it was, right all the way up,
Speaker 5: and Joe hit me. I was like, please hold me up,
Speaker 5: will hold And I was like, I don't how to do.
Speaker 1: That turn around? Yeah, you know when they had beef.
Speaker 1: They have beef.
Speaker 8: This is when they the beef was kind of like that,
Speaker 8: I mean, but they were still weren't on talking terms
Speaker 8: what I mean, what I mean.
Speaker 5: So then Joe hit I hate Bleak and me and
Speaker 5: Blee was like, let's let's try to bleak this. Yeah,
Speaker 5: let's try to make this settle. So we got Joe
Speaker 5: and jay Z on the phone, and then from there,
Speaker 5: these motherfuckers, Uh look, they did the remix and everything,
Speaker 5: and me and Bleak is like, Nigga, we they you
Speaker 5: niggas like they owe us, Like like Nigga, we did
Speaker 5: this and hip hop hip hop all y'all too.
Speaker 2: That's how I feeling. All that ship got to happen
Speaker 2: for a reason. Them chain reactions, you know. So let
Speaker 2: me ask you, Oh, that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't
Speaker 2: there you was.
Speaker 1: Get you let me get Yeah, this from the glass
Speaker 1: like this is when I did the Joe. But I
Speaker 1: feel like this is what Joe is doing to you.
Speaker 1: I feel like Joe feels like he put you on
Speaker 1: a shanty back together. You need twenty percent on the
Speaker 1: baby because he said I'm not negotiating that. He said
Speaker 1: versus like versus.
Speaker 5: He invited you correct and then she was on joe
Speaker 5: Rules side, yo, And I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: That famous walk when you walked across that stage, Yo,
Speaker 1: it was uncomfortable, but you was going for that goal. No,
Speaker 1: I was going for It's.
Speaker 5: Uncomfort, I mean so legendary when you you performed and
Speaker 5: you see her and you saying I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Get by from the whole time, from the whole time
Speaker 2: I walked there, and in truth to the thing, because
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting that I had somebody with me.
Speaker 1: When I came there. No, I'm just saying, no, I did.
Speaker 1: I had somebody with me when I came there, just
Speaker 1: because I wasn't on that. I'm like, I'm heurre for Joe.
Speaker 1: My name, and then we come and when we get in,
Speaker 1: we walk down the steps and into my mama is
Speaker 1: on the phone, and she turned around and look up
Speaker 1: at me and like like she saw a funk of ghosts. Nigga.
Speaker 1: It was just and I just grin and walked past.
Speaker 2: And when we went in Joe joe dressing room and
Speaker 2: we were just hanging out. So I guess she gave
Speaker 2: the world whatever the case. But I didn't want the intensity.
Speaker 2: I didn't want it because I'm here celebrating these brothers music,
Speaker 2: you know, because I fucked with Joh. I fucked with
Speaker 2: Joe obviously, and they fuck with each other, so you
Speaker 2: don't want it to be crazy.
Speaker 1: So I didn't, you know. I was like, man in
Speaker 1: me old over here and break the ice. That's what
Speaker 1: I That's what that was. So that's that's because that walk,
Speaker 1: That walk was serious. Yeah, I remember, I forgot who
Speaker 1: was in my way. I think it was Josh. They
Speaker 1: had the nerve to be performing going by and move
Speaker 1: I think I bumped. I was like, oh, but you
Speaker 1: saw rub the back, nigga, don't want to slow that
Speaker 1: down to show the rub on the back. They I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you you with all.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She that was I'm gonna be honest with you, and
Speaker 1: she was trying to act tough. She was like, she
Speaker 1: walked over, you know, Chris. Chris like, what you want
Speaker 1: to do, babe? Chris said, what you want to do?
Speaker 2: He was gonna stop me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So she gave she gave a rub on the back. Man,
Speaker 2: she knew what time it was in order. Now we'll
Speaker 2: move along, No, we.
Speaker 1: Do kind of Joe. Uh, Joe was a good Yeah.
Speaker 1: Joe was always you guys gotta get back together. Something
Speaker 1: does not feel right of our business, right, Nelly? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? I was like, now, you know, he
Speaker 1: used to always say that you're my brother. I love you,
Speaker 1: but you know how I feel about my sister. She's
Speaker 1: the greatest. You have to get back Joe. I'm not
Speaker 1: with that. It's not going down. I'll call you. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. That was crazy, I guess so that that
Speaker 1: was the plain place I put them back together. He
Speaker 1: can't have that credit, he can't hit that credit because
Speaker 1: if it funk up again, I know what to call
Speaker 1: God damned Joe too. Okay, the chronic or all eyes
Speaker 1: on me? The chronic. The chronic.
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, I love I love Tupat, but all eyes
Speaker 2: on me ain't ain't his best album To me is
Speaker 2: Me Against the World's Me against the worst.
Speaker 1: Of Double Do. It's a double discuss. Our lives on
Speaker 1: me is the double Me against the world is the
Speaker 1: joint when he was in jail? Yeah, Like, no, nigga,
Speaker 1: it is. Where were you at when the chronic dropped?
Speaker 1: Like what were you high school? I was in high
Speaker 1: school because the chronic was that ninety two, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was in high school.
Speaker 2: Depending on what part of ninety two, I might have
Speaker 2: been a junior. I might have been a senior.
Speaker 1: You car out cast drink? I'm in drink. There's no
Speaker 1: way I can I know, so no weapon like because
Speaker 1: it ain't no outcasts, Probably it ain't. No, ain't no
Speaker 1: Nelly with you.
Speaker 2: That's how much influence you GK got on outcasts and and.
Speaker 1: Me like, pimp is ship. We gotta do that? Ship?
Speaker 1: Pimp is him looking up? What's that we do? And
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. I got the burgers and ship.
Speaker 5: No, I want some burgers though, ships far that's right?
Speaker 5: Manny Fresh or Swiss beats m M.
Speaker 1: Fresh love Swiss Love Swiss Many freshman four hundred degrees. M.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's Swiss Saint.
Speaker 2: But again where I'm from, it's definitely regional, like four
Speaker 2: hundred degrees Julie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see me, I eat sleep, ship and talk rap.
Speaker 1: You see that. I say this on TV that I
Speaker 1: had some feeling chage is a fault that to sit
Speaker 1: the new return still was brought back. Boy Chrizy, you
Speaker 1: as Jamaine the pre partimulant. J D loved him, but again,
Speaker 1: family and j D sniper. That's why he is sniper.
Speaker 1: That's why he's a good sniper. Jackson's that's why he's
Speaker 1: a great sniper. Why he's good at what they do because.
Speaker 2: Everybody j see under the radar on on on a
Speaker 2: lot of ship And I'm only saying that all bullshit
Speaker 2: aside because of.
Speaker 1: The music, Like I don't see the love you give.
Speaker 1: Always give the j D like you know, like I
Speaker 1: love at that time.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like respectfully and outside of
Speaker 2: current situations him and puff do versus puff Is, don't
Speaker 2: get murdered.
Speaker 1: Easy. I'm gonna be That's what I listen.
Speaker 5: I wasn't got did you say East coast. What you mean,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying is back then, how they
Speaker 5: didn't versus j D.
Speaker 1: Smart? He knew he didn't want he didn't he didn't
Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't want no part, He didn't want
Speaker 1: no parts. Jad he knew that Puff is smart, Puff,
Speaker 1: ain't he? Biggie Catalog Total Catalog, Biggie Catalog told me
Speaker 1: more than that.
Speaker 2: Matt Craig, Matt Craig, Matt what now you you're now
Speaker 2: you again at this time? Why do you think he
Speaker 2: wanted the whole versus in New York? JD can hold
Speaker 2: versus anywhere.
Speaker 1: Puff. Puff only wanted the whole versus in New York,
Speaker 1: Massa regarded. He only wanted to have it in New York.
Speaker 1: But it's the biggest arena. He only wanted to have
Speaker 1: it in New York, in the biggest arena of the world,
Speaker 1: in the world. I only wanted to have it in
Speaker 1: the world most famous. You said, the biggest, most famous.
Speaker 1: Change your language, brother, whatever you want to take it,
Speaker 1: go mine, whatever you want to take with the Massacre
Speaker 1: regard is the biggest basketball platform in the world. You entertainment,
Speaker 1: You do realize when you're talking about JD. You talk,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking that away from j You're talking about
Speaker 1: going all the way back to to create Christ always backwards.
Speaker 1: I want my closet backwards. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you, what did he didn't do? Though? Four days?
Speaker 1: What is it that he didn't do? No? No, I
Speaker 1: can't take nothing from JD.
Speaker 4: Ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta give JD all his fucking accolades, all
Speaker 5: his props, all his flowers.
Speaker 1: I got you take it, but you gotta go back
Speaker 1: to New York just because I saw it more. You
Speaker 1: know what, I respect it. I respect it. I already
Speaker 1: told you how we get down. It's just I told
Speaker 1: you I'm gonna be biased for the loop call it
Speaker 1: so I don't feel like I'm being biased.
Speaker 5: What I feel like I'm being is more of what
Speaker 5: I saw, Like I got to see this a little
Speaker 5: bit more.
Speaker 1: I told you everything you see impacts you more exactly
Speaker 1: than what you heard.
Speaker 2: But that's why I said, y'all only basing it off
Speaker 2: of what New York media gave you, what New York
Speaker 2: radio gave you.
Speaker 8: What and you see what I'm saying, and what would
Speaker 8: be the criteria. Jermaine actually produced hands on most of
Speaker 8: his records.
Speaker 1: Well, so where are you going there?
Speaker 8: Ain't what I'm saying, ain't no just produced. Like you
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying about the criteria. Fucking have a criteria.
Speaker 8: Dreams that we talked about. You gotta have a criteria.
Speaker 1: Let them battle. I think.
Speaker 8: So what you want to puff to do record, you
Speaker 8: gotta have a criteria. If nothing man is on the record.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you get a producer credit for the
Speaker 2: motherfucker even if you just said that, but see what's
Speaker 2: going you can get the producer credit. He gonna get
Speaker 2: the right credit. And then he probably referenced the fucking song.
Speaker 2: Because you can lock JD in the room by himself,
Speaker 2: he will come out with the song. He can't perform it,
Speaker 2: he can make the beat and he can write it smash.
Speaker 2: You can lock him in that motherfucker with an MP
Speaker 2: and he will sit right by that motherfucker and do
Speaker 2: that write that bitch melodies boom, And then you start
Speaker 2: sounded like this is my confession.
Speaker 1: This man, I thought, I can say. Yeah, So you
Speaker 1: start hearing him about his stories that this NIXT sniper
Speaker 1: stories that he put in the record other people, that's
Speaker 1: his story. We know to these records carefully. Now that's
Speaker 1: his story. Man, confess confession. Oh along, let me get
Speaker 1: up all right, Jesus all right, I mean for the
Speaker 1: next one, Get the next one.
Speaker 5: The chronicle. We said that one, We said that one.
Speaker 5: We said that one, said that, We said that one
Speaker 5: gosses not.
Speaker 1: You can see all the okay uh wo tangle in
Speaker 1: w A n W A greatest group of all the
Speaker 1: greatest rap group of all time, greatest rap group of
Speaker 1: all time. Easy, you got the whole group.
Speaker 2: Multi platinum, Easy is multi platinum, ice Cube is multi platinum,
Speaker 2: Doctor dre is multi platinum, came back, did a whole
Speaker 2: other album.
Speaker 1: Like there, it's like it's like new addition to me.
Speaker 2: New addition is the greatest group of all time Morning because.
Speaker 1: Everybody in that bitch went multi platinum, came back together,
Speaker 1: them niggas with multiplatinum together, everybody went their way with multiplatinum,
Speaker 1: came back together with multiplay, no contemn and did separate again.
Speaker 1: Like what's you talking about this? That was this new edition.
Speaker 1: You got Bobby Brown, you got you got.
Speaker 4: B b d.
Speaker 8: Even Ralph was man Nigga, Ralph Transman Gil Nigga, who.
Speaker 1: Didn't even start coming in and get something damn, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like Paula. Then the producer nigga,
Speaker 1: what's the nigga? Mike Bibbins. Michael Bibbins, he was the
Speaker 1: part of me all that. Yeah, that's crying of crazy.
Speaker 1: The niggas went ape ship right like dad? We got
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown out of that nigga. Yeah, cocaine chicken. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's all he got out of done go game before.
Speaker 1: But a minute, what are you talking? You know I
Speaker 1: said it earlier. The nigga he had so much coke
Speaker 1: in his house. He did it by accident.
Speaker 5: Listen, he did it by hen He thought it was flower,
Speaker 5: so he so he dipped it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he dipped the ship. This is in his book.
Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. This is in his book.
Speaker 5: And every time I say I'm like to me about
Speaker 5: the cocaine fla and the chicken nigga, he tells me
Speaker 5: the story.
Speaker 1: He doesn't give a fuck. But did he eat it?
Speaker 1: Did he say he ate it? I've never asked that question.
Speaker 1: That's probably how you knew it was Clo. That's right, enough,
Speaker 1: ship nigga. The smell in that house at that time,
Speaker 1: you know he had I mean yeah, like damn, like,
Speaker 1: what's that smell? I don't know? Forrell or yeah Pete
Speaker 1: Forrell again?
Speaker 2: Family love Yay Midwest you know love Yeah's artist Street.
Speaker 1: Let's say that ship. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't know what my nigga be all sometimes like man,
Speaker 1: you got to help yourself at some point. Just got
Speaker 1: your money. You're gonna go a hand again, nigga.
Speaker 2: Like you want to edit that like you said about
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like, but good lord, you know you
Speaker 2: just be watching like, oh.
Speaker 1: We love you, but she I don't know, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go for it. You won't take a shot. I'll take
Speaker 1: a shot. No, no, no, no, take a shot. And
Speaker 1: this is not let's just do it because you know why,
Speaker 1: why is that jeers? What the fuck is that tea
Speaker 1: or something? Nigga? Because here you can trust definitely listen,
Speaker 1: you're my friend. They make that. It's called Mama Wana.
Speaker 1: Who what it's called mama wana? They make that and
Speaker 1: Mamajuanna can't do it. He made this is a story.
Speaker 1: He's made. He makes up the story, make up a story.
Speaker 1: Just let him do it with dirty feet. What nigga,
Speaker 1: you just told me cocaine and chicken fried chicken. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I know. That's why I'm believing you. I knew. No,
Speaker 1: you can't come back to their stories. You can't tell correct.
Speaker 1: You could have told me anything after that out of
Speaker 1: the analog or digital to do?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Nigga? I am computer illiterate. I don't know. So he's
Speaker 1: analog my song Else, nigga, he didn't. He been hooking
Speaker 1: up the electronics and since he was twelve, that's it.
Speaker 1: Once I realized he knew what the fuck he was doing.
Speaker 1: That was a wrap that market sounds like we taking
Speaker 1: the man. That boy was nine years old, and the
Speaker 1: video game in every TV in the house. That was it.
Speaker 1: So this is I don't know what the fuck do
Speaker 1: analog do? Listen how hot he was created? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know of it. But I'm saying you saying analog
Speaker 1: or like like you know, recording on tape, recording on computer.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying that. Really, you're talking about real real
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, that that's analog, yo, wa for you so
Speaker 1: far away from that's like you don't really.
Speaker 12: Technical terms and ship, you know, but it's what we
Speaker 12: recorded on no real, the real digital that.
Speaker 1: Analogue as well. Okay, ship, well ain't that not? Yeah again?
Speaker 1: Because real, the real you ain't that you go, uh,
Speaker 1: you're real. The small dads are for that.
Speaker 8: You the real did you had the dance with with
Speaker 8: then you have to look at and the little Deaths
Speaker 8: were digital.
Speaker 1: That was when we went digital.
Speaker 2: Okay, see my album Nigga? All right, I didn't know
Speaker 2: that say that like that?
Speaker 1: It's like you like so that? Really? I said, my
Speaker 1: asked this. Let back to the interview. Okay, loyalty or respect?
Speaker 1: H I think if you if you give me your loyalty,
Speaker 1: then you respect me, because you ain't gonna get your
Speaker 1: loyalty to a motherfucker you don't respect you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, who would do that? So it's got
Speaker 1: to be It's got to be loyalty, you see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because I can say I respect you but
Speaker 1: not be loyal to you.
Speaker 2: But I can't be loyal to you if I don't
Speaker 2: respect you, so it'll no. I'm just saying, it's just logic.
Speaker 2: You know, you didn't know that analog or that.
Speaker 1: Or so what are we doing? I said, loyalty?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. It was so beautiful. I got to
Speaker 1: take a shot with you.
Speaker 5: Yo, you get that tell my wife on your no,
Speaker 5: I feel like you was gonna I feel like I
Speaker 5: was gonna jump me earlier you text me and say
Speaker 5: I'm call you with my wife.
Speaker 1: I was. I was mad, nervous. Oh no, I was
Speaker 1: on the phone. I was on the phone, and what
Speaker 1: I was like, damn to entertainers going on to save
Speaker 1: my son. She was trying to put some ship on
Speaker 1: him and take pictures. She was you know, she was
Speaker 1: dressing him up. This nigga is the only nigga never
Speaker 1: leaves that he changes clothes to change rooms. He never
Speaker 1: leaves out like I never seen you. So yeah, I've
Speaker 1: never seen what. He changed clothes like, he got on
Speaker 1: another outfit. Happened like it's new. She's she's done, man.
Speaker 1: But she's yeah, she's a great. She's a great mother. Man,
Speaker 1: she's a great. God damn me mother. But it's just like,
Speaker 1: damn bro, I feel for use. When he gets older
Speaker 1: and he gonna be like damn co. It might be like,
Speaker 1: how is it being the father? Is this your first
Speaker 1: time being the father?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No shot, no shot, No, of course you ain't let
Speaker 1: me finish.
Speaker 13: Okay, you know what I mean, like being a new
Speaker 13: being a new father at this age because your son
Speaker 13: no wait, I don't know what right now.
Speaker 8: We're talking about the new six months Okay, okay, you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna have meadow glasses. That's a scary part of give
Speaker 1: young kid. I mean, it's it's possible, It's very possible.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, again, you get to this
Speaker 2: age you don't have children before, it's a little different.
Speaker 2: Like my daughter was first, so when she would cry
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, you know, you pop up.
Speaker 1: And then she also your daughter, so you know, as
Speaker 1: a dad, it's just actually it's actually like, what's she crying?
Speaker 1: You know, you get up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: By the time my son was born, that nigga be
Speaker 1: yelling through the night, I'm like, yoh, he was like
Speaker 1: you good. That nigg gotta learn. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Everybody just be running to you as a man in America, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm teaching them not you know, you know, because your
Speaker 1: your girls when you were father, it's just a little different.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I feel like they all can come home. And I
Speaker 2: fucked up because I told my daughter, Yeah, baby, don't
Speaker 2: worry about it. You can always come home. You always
Speaker 2: got a room. My son he could come home, but
Speaker 2: he get the couch. Eventually he got to get the
Speaker 2: fuck out. He got to here, man, he got.
Speaker 1: To You got to go. You can always come home.
Speaker 2: And sometimes it may not ship when shi it don't
Speaker 2: work out. I ain't knocking that because you got to
Speaker 2: get back up on your.
Speaker 1: Feet, you know what I'm saying. But just no, nigga,
Speaker 1: this is a temporary. But you know, oh no, you
Speaker 1: go get out, you gonna work, you gonna do something.
Speaker 1: You ain't lay up on me. No, not as a man,
Speaker 1: not as a man. And then I said, so she
Speaker 1: like that to my daughter as far as you know, baby,
Speaker 1: come home and let's just say she's always Daddy's girl.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one h two. Yeah, but she won't leave.
Speaker 1: She took it literally, and I can't. I can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't do nothing. No, she don't stand like that.
Speaker 1: That's my baby. Better. No, she still thinks she's Daddy's
Speaker 1: the little girl that she is. That's a good thing, man, No,
Speaker 1: it's a great thing. It's a great fucking things. Great
Speaker 1: that you can right that you work for. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my cat though.
Speaker 5: So it leads me to my next question is going
Speaker 5: to be very awkward. After the fun we just said,
Speaker 5: I'm with you, but I also got to ask you
Speaker 5: about tip of trail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about credit card? She famous and the ass.
Speaker 1: It wasn't my idea. You do know that though it
Speaker 1: was It was the ladies. No, it was the No,
Speaker 1: it was was that was that white chocolate? I think
Speaker 1: of some of the dances.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we was running out of ones and I said,
Speaker 2: all I got is my card. I said, I'm a
Speaker 2: swife and.
Speaker 1: She said, go for it. You go too fast. She
Speaker 1: probably charged tell yeah, because first off was BT cut.
Speaker 1: It was already out. It was already out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it was already out. And at that time,
Speaker 2: like I told you, you know, we was making all
Speaker 2: kinds of music. We make music for everybody.
Speaker 1: So I was like, fuck it, I'm watching this show.
Speaker 1: I want to make a video for this ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like let me Yeah, it shout out to Miami because Sami,
Speaker 2: Uncle Luke. You know what I'm saying, Oh ship, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna shut up.
Speaker 1: But he threw one of the most famous Uncle Luke
Speaker 1: parties in Saint Louis, Louis, well he used to do.
Speaker 1: He did a beach party, a fake beach.
Speaker 2: Party, and say, look, you know, we ain't got no
Speaker 2: goddamn beaches and no ship.
Speaker 1: But for somebody, these niggas brought in trucks of saying
Speaker 1: all kind of and did some ship beach and niggas
Speaker 1: made the beach right there, right on the roof front too, right,
Speaker 1: not too far from what a casino ato in the
Speaker 1: Four Seasons. But he brought Luke, and Luke brought Miami
Speaker 1: about the ladies. Thank God for Luke, God bless Luke man.
Speaker 1: So this is where the wipe happened. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: where I would probably say my wanting to put my
Speaker 1: own video on be to your version of that well
Speaker 1: because the peep show.
Speaker 2: Well, no, before that I said that to say when
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, you can do this in music.
Speaker 2: This is like awesome, you know, like you get, let's
Speaker 2: get you can have this if you can have this type,
Speaker 2: I'm trying my best.
Speaker 1: My nigga is the version of this ship. So but no,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when he did.
Speaker 2: His party and he showed Luke live closer than person
Speaker 2: and it wasn't on TV. Like I told you again,
Speaker 2: the ship that you actually see has more of an
Speaker 2: influence on you just some ship that.
Speaker 1: You might see on TV.
Speaker 2: So the concert was live and then motherfucker per it
Speaker 2: looked different. Nigga talk about HD. It just looked different.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna make some videos like this,
Speaker 2: like this ship gonna be Yeah. But it eventually led
Speaker 2: up to Tip Drill because it was like Uncle Luke
Speaker 2: and them for fifty eight and.
Speaker 1: All that shit popped that Guccie and all that, and
Speaker 1: it was running.
Speaker 2: I was just saying their influence on me even wanting
Speaker 2: to do it at a certain point because I've always like, yo,
Speaker 2: I want to make one of those type of videos.
Speaker 1: But at that time, Universal was like even the fuck up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it just was what it was. And then
Speaker 1: BT came out with which is crazy that they did that.
Speaker 5: That's the discripancy that people are having. Did you make
Speaker 5: that for BET or was BT already created?
Speaker 2: No, We was doing the dirty versions the remix album. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: we remixed a lot of the songs and that was
Speaker 2: one of the songs. Tip Drill was the remix to
Speaker 2: EI and we was like, yo, fuck it because BT
Speaker 2: Universe wasn't gona shoot no videos. We hadn't planned on
Speaker 2: shooting no videos for the remix, and I think we
Speaker 2: might have shot tip Drill with our own fucking mud
Speaker 2: need or some ship if I'm not I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: But when we saw when I saw that BT young cut,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, fuck it, let's do a video
Speaker 2: for this.
Speaker 1: Since because we're.
Speaker 2: Going back and forth, they don't want to shoot no
Speaker 2: video boom more, so let's do something like this.
Speaker 1: This won't be expensive, you know.
Speaker 2: Because video budgets back then niggas and niggas was heating.
Speaker 2: You didn't even have to do nothing but just bring
Speaker 2: niggas water.
Speaker 1: And you might leave with two thousand dollars a day.
Speaker 1: So but that's how that came about. As far as
Speaker 1: tips real, I wanted to do the remix to EI
Speaker 1: and but Bennie Boom does that? Bennie? Can you google it?
Speaker 1: Has was that Bennie Boom who shot that? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: the swipe of the car was always credited to the
Speaker 1: but it wasn't mine.
Speaker 2: It was a girl like because we ran out of
Speaker 2: wands for a split second and then we had to
Speaker 2: call up over the Magic City and they brought Yeah,
Speaker 2: we was in atlant We was in Atlanta at what
Speaker 2: was that?
Speaker 1: What was old boy name? Ray Buchanan, the nigga used
Speaker 1: to play for the Falcons. His wife wanted us to
Speaker 1: shoot it there. She's a lesson, she's a legend. I
Speaker 1: ain't like. It wasn't his idea. His old lady was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you can use ours. I don't know who
Speaker 1: had that connection, but I was just like, yo, what's
Speaker 1: your wife's gonna say. She was like, she she's the
Speaker 1: reason y'all shooting it? I said, no, ship, I love
Speaker 1: this man, all right? So e I ya remix Tip
Speaker 1: Drill that was the remix. Tip Drill was the remix
Speaker 1: e I was the first one. Yeah, that was on
Speaker 1: Country Grammar. What's the first record we came out with
Speaker 1: Country Grammar? Country Grammar? Yeah, let's talk about that. The
Speaker 1: them the single, as you said, it actually came out
Speaker 1: in like ninety eight locally, Okay, locally.
Speaker 2: Then that's what kind of got us, you know, the
Speaker 2: deal so to speak, because six one eight, who.
Speaker 1: Used to DJ at the club I was telling you
Speaker 1: about that. Bob's family owned in Illinois and East St.
Speaker 1: Louis the Beano.
Speaker 2: We used to take records over there and he would
Speaker 2: break them after we did give me what you got.
Speaker 2: So it was actually our early and then got us noticed.
Speaker 1: Then Universal, I re recuded it, I re recut it
Speaker 1: with Universal Record recorded.
Speaker 2: It and we put it back out again. But Universal
Speaker 2: never really liked Country Grammar. They just thought it was
Speaker 2: a cool record regional, but they never really liked the record.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to go with it. First. I had
Speaker 1: to fucking kicking screen.
Speaker 5: About the same Universal that it signed to Little Way
Speaker 5: Break Okay continue.
Speaker 1: So even with that, if it wasn't for cash money,
Speaker 1: we might not even got signed a Universal. Because even
Speaker 1: when I was coming up to the Penalty Nigga, my
Speaker 1: four demo records was Country Grammar, E, I Ride with
Speaker 1: Me and batter Up all four singles off of Country Grammar,
Speaker 1: those were my Those were my demo records. You know,
Speaker 1: you're sitting in somebody's office playing those are the records.
Speaker 2: You played the whole records off of the album, and
Speaker 2: then I did. Then now about twelve bout.
Speaker 1: Twelve labels, was like god, you know I was trying
Speaker 1: to sign the Penalty.
Speaker 2: No, but I thought I was gonna get signed the Penalty.
Speaker 2: I always touched it, but it never you know, it
Speaker 2: never happened like that. So then we kind of it
Speaker 2: was just shopping the ship. Like Leo Leoi said, I
Speaker 2: don't know what to do with that. I you he
Speaker 2: had just had scar face. You're not just mean the
Speaker 2: Penalty records.
Speaker 1: You're we went through you know, New York got all
Speaker 1: the all the record labels, and it's like through these
Speaker 1: meanings or some Cooter love some you had a bunch
Speaker 1: of people that was working in our favors, so to
Speaker 1: speak like that. Like even.
Speaker 2: Trail, who played a large role, the only Trail played
Speaker 2: a large role in us being signed and being successful
Speaker 2: and even hooking up with Kudah. He actually is the
Speaker 2: one that gave cool the tape Trail. I met Trail
Speaker 2: in can Coon of ninety eight. Remember when everybody used
Speaker 2: to go to cant Coon and ship then back in
Speaker 2: the day for spring breaking over there. And I went
Speaker 2: down there in ninety eight, but I went down there
Speaker 2: to sell T shirts and shit, nigga, I was hustling.
Speaker 2: They would just came back, I'm managing them and say, yo, nigga,
Speaker 2: we just left can Coon. This was like ninety seven.
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, you gotta come, nigga. You know
Speaker 2: I'm back all my mother hustling. I'm trying to see
Speaker 2: what gonna come of it. I just went back then,
Speaker 2: just into taking trips niggas just to have fun. Like
Speaker 2: so you know, when you a block beatter, you a
Speaker 2: block beata period, and to lead that block got to
Speaker 2: make sense, like damn show not to be going to
Speaker 2: no beach, nigga.
Speaker 1: I wasn't culture like now, I didn't leave a loop,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I wasn't cultured. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like just the way to have fun.
Speaker 2: I fun was playing some space, some dominos, some shit
Speaker 2: eating and going to his U Terrorists club. But but
Speaker 2: Treill I actually met Trail and now they said we
Speaker 2: were staying in the same hotel. And like I said, again,
Speaker 2: for it to make sense, I had to figure out something.
Speaker 2: So I brought a whole bunch of T shirts down
Speaker 2: in cant Coon because loving him, it just came back
Speaker 2: and said, yeah, you gotta come, man, it's cracking.
Speaker 1: They got these clubs. They blow the mistic shit out
Speaker 1: the ceiling. It's wild. And they had this what happens
Speaker 1: in can Coon stays in cant Coon. And they got a.
Speaker 2: Sand for a Vegas store. That ship was down in CanCon.
Speaker 2: That shit came out of can Coon. What happens in
Speaker 2: CanCon stays in cant Coon.
Speaker 1: And that's why I met Triller. He was and in
Speaker 1: the same hotel.
Speaker 2: And I had these T shirts and the nigga bought
Speaker 2: like two T shirts like full price too.
Speaker 1: I ain't even have to you know, how to take fifteen,
Speaker 1: so I started at thirty. That nigga bought two for
Speaker 1: thirty two at thirty piece. I was like, nigga, I
Speaker 1: throw them extra.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: He was cool as fuck.
Speaker 2: Come to find out, when we left that came back
Speaker 2: to Saint Louis, this nigga was in my manager's basement.
Speaker 2: Somehow he had met my manager's wife's sister. Woh, come down,
Speaker 2: this nigga's in the basement.
Speaker 1: I'm like yo.
Speaker 4: He's like yo.
Speaker 1: He was like yo, I heard you got a rap group.
Speaker 2: Do your manager? And Treil knew damn near everybody. So
Speaker 2: Treil had our demo CD two. He passed it, I
Speaker 2: think to the rough riders. He passed into a lot
Speaker 2: of people. So it's documented. It's a few people that
Speaker 2: was like, yeah.
Speaker 1: What's the name? Had it? Dang? Yep, dang had it?
Speaker 1: Because Dame actually said something, he said, yeah. They asked him,
Speaker 1: it's one thing you great said, yeah, I should have
Speaker 1: signed Nelly, he said, he said, after looking at it,
Speaker 1: I I should.
Speaker 2: Have signed he said, But it was it came from Trail.
Speaker 2: And if you know Trail, you know Trail always he's
Speaker 2: a good dude, but he always coming to you with something.
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's both. So you don't know, and
Speaker 2: it just it just happened that at that time, Trail
Speaker 2: was passing out them Country Grammar CDs and Dame was
Speaker 2: a little hesitant on that ship.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that passed up ship. JD.
Speaker 1: My brother, he passed JD. Motherfucker was on backwards. No,
Speaker 1: you stuck on nah at that time. Wait, he had
Speaker 1: the Braids ship. This is that that?
Speaker 8: But you said passing out Country Grammar CD. So the
Speaker 8: demo was the album already.
Speaker 1: My four songs, Yeah, my four songs was Country Grammar E.
Speaker 1: I Ride with Me in batter up.
Speaker 2: Wow, all the false things off of there, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: We put some other ship around it.
Speaker 8: So nobody can say a label made those records with you,
Speaker 8: like A and R didn't do those records, you got it?
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, hell yeah, that shit wouldn't have sounded like that.
Speaker 2: Like once, you could tell when the motherfuckering label start
Speaker 2: getting into an artist project, you know, if you know enough,
Speaker 2: you can tell.
Speaker 1: Because and you still got to be versatile. Versatility is
Speaker 1: the key.
Speaker 2: That's why I give Jay all his credit because when
Speaker 2: you can stay around doctor Dre, doctor.
Speaker 1: Dre ain't having it if you doctor Dre ain't coming
Speaker 1: out unless he got him a young hot nigga. Ever,
Speaker 1: if you take his history, he had easy, he had snoop.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and every time he do that, he
Speaker 2: makes us and he makes a historic project almost to
Speaker 2: a certain degree, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So he knows that hip hoppas.
Speaker 2: For the youth, by the youth, you know, so they
Speaker 2: will always have the large majority of controlling it. The
Speaker 2: problem is now hip hop didne got old, and just
Speaker 2: like when anything gets old, their opinions get stronger, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Because when we was young, we
Speaker 2: had no opinions.
Speaker 1: You ain't give a fuck about nothing at twenty five.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you got no opinion about this shit,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just.
Speaker 2: Saying like older people got opinions. Well, I don't think
Speaker 2: that's right. That's why they talk like that.
Speaker 1: You don't say that shit. Yah, that's right because you
Speaker 1: didn't been through enough ship to where you're you're judging
Speaker 1: that from something when you're young. I don't know why
Speaker 1: the nigga's tripping fuck them. I don't care. So you
Speaker 1: know that's why you gotta make let the kids. Let
Speaker 1: the kids do the do what they do.
Speaker 2: I just hate all these old niggas shitting on the babies.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, man, why is y'all shitting on them? Man? Motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: You say, go Legend all that ship? Now, they weren't
Speaker 2: saying that ship when Country grandmar draw.
Speaker 1: So I know what they feel like when you when
Speaker 1: you the people that's saying you're fucking up music because
Speaker 1: they said that to me, Oh he's fucking up in
Speaker 1: hip hop boo. It's just what the fuck. And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, and when you're that person,
Speaker 1: it don't feel like Legend go inspirational. You don't.
Speaker 2: You don't feel like that. You don't feel like that
Speaker 2: at all. You feel like, why y'all fucking with me?
Speaker 2: So change the station.
Speaker 1: Nigga turned it off like you ain't against them, you exactly.
Speaker 1: But that's how we sound to some of these babies,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I'm just inquiring, try to understand a little more
Speaker 2: from the older hip hop generation, Try to understand what
Speaker 2: it was like then. When couldn't nobody tell us ship?
Speaker 2: I had a person told me, Yo, don't put that
Speaker 2: song out. You're talking about a drive by. I said, Nigga,
Speaker 2: this ship hard. They said, Yo, you're mixing a nursery
Speaker 2: rhyme with a drive by. You're gonna have little kids
Speaker 2: singing about a drive At that time.
Speaker 1: I gave not to fun.
Speaker 2: Fuck this old nigga. He trying to tell he's trying
Speaker 2: to fuck up my ship. I he hat that's the
Speaker 2: only thing that's going through my mind.
Speaker 1: He was right.
Speaker 2: I still didn't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: because I was I was young and tuking.
Speaker 1: What what? What?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: What? Oh? No, Yeah, that's how you was feeling. You
Speaker 1: couldn't not tell you ship? Oh No, I love this ship, man,
Speaker 1: I love it, But let's let's talk about girls for
Speaker 1: a war weed the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, grills actually came. We were doing putting more records
Speaker 2: onto Sweatsuit. We were combining Sweatsuit one from Sweat one
Speaker 2: from Soup, combinding the album, throwing some more songs on it.
Speaker 2: You know how they get to doing that ship wish,
Speaker 2: I just knowing what I knew now, definitely should have
Speaker 2: been making motherfuckers pay for more when the labels would
Speaker 2: make us do that type of shit and we weren't
Speaker 2: up on it. But when you look at those extra
Speaker 2: songs that now digital, no like when you emerge an album,
Speaker 2: when you merge two albums, because in order to qualify
Speaker 2: for a album, it just has to be like nine songs.
Speaker 1: But you're given well, could be could be changing changing it,
Speaker 1: you could be right, but it's somewhere along that lines, right.
Speaker 2: So, but what I'm saying is when you look at
Speaker 2: we was putting fifteen, sixteen, twenty songs, and if you
Speaker 2: look at now what I'm saying now with the fins
Speaker 2: in the in the in the streaming ship that you
Speaker 2: could give to the oh my god, motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gave ship a lot of ship away. We
Speaker 1: gave a lot of ship away. We fu up, but
Speaker 1: wheels came about and we was putting some more ship
Speaker 1: over there. And I went down to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: And this when I understood JD's philosophy on how he
Speaker 2: was making hits. I didn't understand this ship. So I
Speaker 2: went down and got down there. Probably like Tuesday, we
Speaker 2: went out and JD went out Tuesday, we ain't do nothing.
Speaker 2: We went out Wednesday in Atlanta, you know, usually every
Speaker 2: day somewhere, and we was going out every night. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, we're in the studio, we're doing
Speaker 2: some ship. We fucking around, but I ain't getting what
Speaker 2: I need and JD was like, fuck it, could we
Speaker 2: be in there?
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, let's go out. I said, damn, all right,
Speaker 1: cool where we're going? He said, We're gonna go to
Speaker 1: Magic City? Fine? You know you excuse Like okay, I
Speaker 1: thought he was going to go to another ain't cool.
Speaker 2: So we go to Magic City boat and I'm in
Speaker 2: there and I forgot which song come on, but it
Speaker 2: was something to the beat that that gave me.
Speaker 1: The melody for the grills and the concept.
Speaker 2: And I'm just in there and I was saying something
Speaker 2: and I was over in one area and JD was
Speaker 2: up in another, so I boom.
Speaker 1: Chop came over us like yo, nigga, I got it
Speaker 1: burnt out. We left us.
Speaker 2: We left Magic City, went straight to the studio and
Speaker 2: he started playing that that.
Speaker 7: That infamous do done thn on done on done thun
Speaker 7: done done. And I was like, you know, you know,
Speaker 7: you know, you know when you're hear something in your face, Yeah,
Speaker 7: go ahead.
Speaker 1: So he was like, h now, here's the key.
Speaker 2: That only came because that was the vibe we just left.
Speaker 2: That was the vibe that literally just left. I was
Speaker 2: doing the same shit, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: had told him what I was on and is there
Speaker 2: in the middle of the club, and he went right
Speaker 2: back to that motherfucker and kept that vibe.
Speaker 1: And was like, and I was able to, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, come up with the hook and everything,
Speaker 1: and I did. I actually did two verses. It's a
Speaker 1: verse on grills that never been heard.
Speaker 2: I did it, but I took it off because I
Speaker 2: wanted the features on there.
Speaker 1: So we put Paul wall On there.
Speaker 2: We had to get Paul wall On there because at
Speaker 2: that time him and TV Johnny was killing the game.
Speaker 1: With that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I called Paul, I said, listen, do you
Speaker 2: don't worry about it? You know, sometimes the motherfuckers when
Speaker 2: you do different styles and shit, you kind of like
Speaker 2: want to say, Yo, how you heard me on the record?
Speaker 2: Because I do that because the motherfucker say, yo, I
Speaker 2: want Nelly on the record.
Speaker 1: I don't know which Nelly you talking about because I
Speaker 1: go in there and do one Nelly, you might be
Speaker 1: looking for another Nelly.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, yo, which Nelly? Like how you just
Speaker 2: give me a reference of a sound or a melody
Speaker 2: of how you how you heard Nell?
Speaker 1: Right? But with JD I didn't have to do that
Speaker 1: with both verses.
Speaker 2: So then when Paul Wall came in, I said, jadd
Speaker 2: I said, Paul, I said, you can do whatever you want,
Speaker 2: but you.
Speaker 1: Got to say what it do? Baby? Is the ice scam?
Speaker 1: Paul Wall, I say, you say whatever the else you
Speaker 1: want to say. After that, I said, that's all I need.
Speaker 1: That's all I need over the line, That's all I need,
Speaker 1: and I'm out of here, like I already know what
Speaker 1: that shit is supposed to sound like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I might not be able to play it,
Speaker 1: but I know what the fuck is supposed to sound
Speaker 1: like and I know why he's the right person for that.
Speaker 2: So we got Paul on there, and actually Murphy Lee
Speaker 2: album was coming out, but we had Kim Folk album out,
Speaker 2: and it was originally posed to it was originally going
Speaker 2: to be Murphy Lee on the record, but it got
Speaker 2: switched to give up an Ali because they had their
Speaker 2: project out.
Speaker 1: Kim Folk.
Speaker 2: And Murph didn't get on that record, but it was
Speaker 2: going to be Murphy first because Murphy was somebody who
Speaker 2: was trying to get the pressure fold.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But JD, I thought we was going out every night.
Speaker 2: JD said, no, Nigga, I'm working. He said, y'all partying.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm standing up on the couch. I'm listening
Speaker 2: to tempos. I'm watching what motherfuckers got on. I'm watching the.
Speaker 1: Club talking about every trip club. I'm thinking every night
Speaker 1: we going out. He's studying, he's working.
Speaker 2: That's why when I came to him with that hot
Speaker 2: a about the about how I felt and what I want,
Speaker 2: he was able to duplicate that same feeling as soon
Speaker 2: as we got back to the studio because you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because he was already on that, and
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, nigga.
Speaker 1: I've been kicking it all week. You've been here working.
Speaker 1: I thought, he's it's a genius. Yeah he is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm being honest with you.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: We love you. You ain't you ain't drinking by the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm being honest. Man.
Speaker 5: It's beautiful having your head with us because a lot
Speaker 5: of people don't know how hip hop you are.
Speaker 1: People just look at your accolades and where you went to.
Speaker 1: People don't understand the struggle. I've actually seen that. I
Speaker 1: have been a part of that. But foot all that
Speaker 1: you you scave through this whole ship and you won.
Speaker 1: What's the meaning the game? Yes? Yeah, but it's all
Speaker 1: it's a it's a fight. The first. Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something. It's a fight. It's so hard to
Speaker 1: break through the barriers that you broke through. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm asking. I appreciate it. Yah, Well listen again, half full.
Speaker 2: So I'm always grateful being able to do what, not
Speaker 2: just me myself, but even my little brothers. Like he
Speaker 2: produced four five tracks on Country Grammar. He rapped on
Speaker 2: Country Grammar. We named the Saint Lunatic album after him,
Speaker 2: Free City.
Speaker 1: So I say hardware.
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to say that it's hard work
Speaker 2: because I know somebody that went through hard and ship,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, So not to be at
Speaker 2: a place of being thankful. It's cool, But when you
Speaker 2: watch other artists think that they are struggling, when it's like, yo, Nigga,
Speaker 2: I was just thrown in the deep end and was
Speaker 2: told to swim, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I didn't.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody break Nelly. That's what you gotta understand. Ain't
Speaker 2: nobody break Nelly. My area wasn't hot, You didn't.
Speaker 1: Break your upstream? Tell me in your area, who ain't.
Speaker 2: Been our Kanye got a chain from Rockefeller, fifty gots
Speaker 2: stamped by doctor Dre.
Speaker 1: And them and them. Nellie got thrown into the fool.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, if you look at.
Speaker 2: A lot of this ship that, even even if it's
Speaker 2: around my time or whatever, not discrediting anything, because this
Speaker 2: is all the dope ass artists that inspired me in
Speaker 2: one way or nothing. Richard Trying is one of my
Speaker 2: favorite albums of all time. Motherfucking ye. You know how
Speaker 2: I feel about the Ye?
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I say that they that I
Speaker 1: know this new nigga's tough.
Speaker 2: Different, He's different, He's definitely different. But everything else niggas,
Speaker 2: even my brother Jah. He got to be on a
Speaker 2: song with Hove before he came out. You know, Ship
Speaker 2: Drake had Wayne. So you said you had no body,
Speaker 2: I had no I had nobody but my city and
Speaker 2: the niggas.
Speaker 1: That I came to the club with. That's all we had.
Speaker 1: That's all we had.
Speaker 8: Hold without being said though, because you guys have been
Speaker 8: skitting around the whole when you went to Harlem and
Speaker 8: all this, y'all, y'all talking insider talk. People watching, they
Speaker 8: don't know, how did you get to Harlem? How does
Speaker 8: the connection with Harlem world happen? Carden?
Speaker 1: That all came through trail again, that all came through trail.
Speaker 2: Like I said again, when I met Treill down in
Speaker 2: Cancun and he was motherfucking hanging. He was actually down
Speaker 2: there with Mace and everybody, I think a whole Bible
Speaker 2: or whatever the case he was down there with. And
Speaker 2: once he came back to Saint Louis because he had
Speaker 2: ran into our manager's wife sister, they wind up being
Speaker 2: together so he got the album and he was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: this ship is dope.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna try to help.
Speaker 2: And he brought that ship back up to New York
Speaker 2: and he was trying to pass that around to the
Speaker 2: connects that he knew. That's how we got off the
Speaker 2: topic because we started talking about who he passed it to,
Speaker 2: and I was like, Dame Dame had it.
Speaker 1: I know he got it to.
Speaker 2: I think it was d from Rough Riders and a
Speaker 2: few other people for Upper in New York. But the
Speaker 2: ship never spawned it off. But he said, Yo, I'm
Speaker 2: going down to Atlanta. Jermaine Duprie is having a birthday party,
Speaker 2: and I know Mace is going to the party.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get the tape to Mace. So
Speaker 1: we was like, fucking cool. Is your tape? Trail had it?
Speaker 1: So we was like fucking cool.
Speaker 2: So we drove down to Atlanta and at that time,
Speaker 2: Mini Van staying like kind of right outside. Jady got
Speaker 2: this party at the motherfucking where was at the art museum.
Speaker 2: He had a party at one of the art museums
Speaker 2: down that motherfucker. This is the time all Limos niggas
Speaker 2: rolled in Limos and you.
Speaker 1: Like Limos, I like Glimborough.
Speaker 2: But they had like motherfucking aisles and blocks of fucking
Speaker 2: Limos just parked outside this and we was parked down
Speaker 2: the street a little bit in the minivan. They probably
Speaker 2: thought we were they're the rob niggas, probably because that's
Speaker 2: how shady we was looking, Nigga compared to what was
Speaker 2: going into the party.
Speaker 1: Everybody was dressed up little.
Speaker 2: So we outside party trail took our manager t Love,
Speaker 2: and we're standing outside, were waiting slow down. Nigga with
Speaker 2: the mask. He run up, He run up to he
Speaker 2: run up to the door, just on some fuck it
Speaker 2: and talking to the boy. He said, Yo, could you
Speaker 2: tell our manager that you know that we out here.
Speaker 2: We just look at the boot and dude said, okay,
Speaker 2: what's your manager's name?
Speaker 1: Who is you? He was like, yo, we sa loa
Speaker 1: text Tony Davis. The nigga goes down the list said
Speaker 1: oh y'all on here? Oh he said what he said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all y'all on the list.
Speaker 2: Man Nigga ran back over there. The world we would
Speaker 2: say say, yo, Nigga, we on the list. We get in, Nigga.
Speaker 1: We shot my fucking car like, So we going into
Speaker 1: a j D party now, mind you, No, not like that.
Speaker 1: We know Bob, okay, we know, we know Big Bob
Speaker 1: all right, Bob that was the motherfucker man. Okay, he
Speaker 1: got some stories too, so we he's like, fuck it.
Speaker 1: So we go in there now, mind you, nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm literally still representing where I live in Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: I'll just say that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So my attire, it's reputable of the cars upon which
Speaker 2: my street.
Speaker 1: You're like, you know what, So everything I got over.
Speaker 1: I got on the Saint Louis Blue Sejourity, I got
Speaker 1: on the big Blue and Go. I got on some
Speaker 1: mother fuck blue dann there like Blue Dickie shows about
Speaker 1: this mother passer. Were like, fucking We go into the
Speaker 1: party now, mind you, nigga, were sticking out. There's no
Speaker 1: way you don't see us. Everybody in this motherfucker iss flies.
Speaker 2: Fuck nigga, Elton John and in this bitch my fucker
Speaker 2: kind of motherfuckers. So the way the party is set up,
Speaker 2: when you go up these steps to the to the
Speaker 2: VIP area, you got this party right here so everybody
Speaker 2: can see you.
Speaker 1: Everybody so we walking up these motherfuckers and you could
Speaker 1: tell everybody like, who the fuck is niggas? Why is
Speaker 1: they in the party? Look at what we got out?
Speaker 2: We were like, so we following Trail and Love and
Speaker 2: they take us over to the section where Mace was
Speaker 2: at and Trail was like, yo, these the group out
Speaker 2: from Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: I was talking about you know what I'm saying this,
Speaker 1: and Mace said.
Speaker 6: Give the tape to Cool, Give the tape to Cool Somal, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there he is. Because you know Mace would have added,
Speaker 1: you know, he would have added he never heard it,
Speaker 1: he never listened to it.
Speaker 2: Could have got the tape Cool, he said, good, it
Speaker 2: could be you know what I'm saying. Trail was like, yo, son, well,
Speaker 2: well you know he bigged us up. And as soon
Speaker 2: as got as soon as Cooda got today, come on,
Speaker 2: hold on, let's just try South people.
Speaker 1: No, he said, get to take the kudo. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what the I was a fuck with, you said, everybody, give.
Speaker 2: So Gay to take the cool. The Coola left the party,
Speaker 2: jumped in whatever he was in and played it. The
Speaker 2: nigga called us about about an hour and were like, yo,
Speaker 2: I'm fucking with it.
Speaker 1: Can y'all get up to New York and I got
Speaker 1: a studio, come up, hang out, let's let's just knock
Speaker 1: out some records to see what comes from it. So
Speaker 1: we was like, yeah, cool, made our way up to
Speaker 1: New York. He had a studio. I think it was
Speaker 1: in Jersey. Was that ship in Jersey? He had a
Speaker 1: studio in Jersey? Nigga, We thought we was in New Yeah.
Speaker 1: You couldn't have told us nothing said well, yes and no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that I'm out of that. That's
Speaker 1: y'all politic. It doesn't know, but I'm saying it shows
Speaker 1: like it because we didn't know the difference. You know,
Speaker 1: when niggas ain't never really left where they left, bro,
Speaker 1: you just know it.
Speaker 2: So we did the studio. We stayed for about two days.
Speaker 2: We stayed actually stayed in the studio. Nigga slept on
Speaker 2: the floor. We just recorded some records for him as
Speaker 2: at that time as the group, and he took them ships.
Speaker 1: He was shopping them. He probably shopped him for a
Speaker 1: couple of months, maybe a couple of months, and then
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, I don't know about the group,
Speaker 1: but I think if Nelly, I said, I think I
Speaker 1: can get Nelly a deal. That's what, Because you guys
Speaker 1: are presented as a group.
Speaker 2: First, always, always, I wasn't doing solo records at all,
Speaker 2: but at that time, y'all was shopping as a group
Speaker 2: as a group lunatics, and he tried to shop it
Speaker 2: as a group, but he was like, yo, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I can get the group of deal, he said,
Speaker 2: but I think I can.
Speaker 1: Get Nelly a deal. Then he can put the group on.
Speaker 1: Who is this guy Kudo cuts? Not no my duty?
Speaker 2: When Mace was like, I think he was managing Kuda
Speaker 2: and he got that famous line in the record. Okay, cool,
Speaker 2: So we like, we think cool to the man. Any
Speaker 2: nigga get a shout out in the record, especially a
Speaker 2: hit record.
Speaker 1: Yes, So we followed up with him on some other
Speaker 1: ship and he was like, yo, I think I can
Speaker 1: get Nelly a deal. But no, no, he was I
Speaker 1: was in the group.
Speaker 2: I was in the group, all right. But so when
Speaker 2: I'm this team player, okay, I played sports again, I
Speaker 2: played sports my whole life.
Speaker 1: I'm a team player. I was brought up like that.
Speaker 2: I'm very coachable. So if I got a bad first.
Speaker 2: I'm a bad first. If I got a bad ninth,
Speaker 2: I have bad ninth.
Speaker 14: Whatever it takes to win, whatever good, whatever it takes
Speaker 14: to win.
Speaker 2: So I was never a solo watist because I would
Speaker 2: we would do records. I come in and do my
Speaker 2: verse and i'm i'm I'm I'm back beating the block,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then I start working at like ups because I.
Speaker 2: Needed some insurance because I just had my daughter. But
Speaker 2: that's more so that's how but it saved me.
Speaker 1: No, this is what it feels like.
Speaker 8: It feels like that's the typical industry. How you separate right, No,
Speaker 8: by that conquered type of vibe.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You think like that after
Speaker 1: there's something to divide and conquer. Ford when you're in
Speaker 1: the beginning, there's no way you're thinking like that because
Speaker 1: as long as you remain loyal, as long as you
Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to do, then how can they
Speaker 1: divide and conquer? Now, they did try to put me
Speaker 1: out and I was like no. They was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you you get on, you can.
Speaker 2: Put the group on whatever, hold on, hold on, And
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, sound good.
Speaker 1: But I need it in the paper you had it
Speaker 1: in the paperwork, and the paperwork it said, if I
Speaker 1: sold this.
Speaker 2: Amount of records latics as automatically, get the deal automatically.
Speaker 1: And I think it was only like either three fifty
Speaker 1: or two fifty. It said, what's the thing you did,
Speaker 1: nigga the first day that the first day that album
Speaker 1: came out, they brought me a gold. It brought me
Speaker 1: a day. And the group did have a deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, everybody a group of deal and everybody had
Speaker 2: solo deal.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They were like a Woo Tang clan in a sense,
Speaker 1: and much respect to because they had a good influence
Speaker 1: on so xplaining that to us. So once you went platinum,
Speaker 1: right yep, then you had a deal for all your
Speaker 1: It wasn't even about going platinum. We just had to sell.
Speaker 1: He didn't have to go as a total. As a total.
Speaker 2: All I had to sell was I think three fifty love,
Speaker 2: but I even three fifty, Well, three fifty is.
Speaker 1: Going to be going if you if you think about it,
Speaker 1: like depending on when it happens, like if you up
Speaker 1: to three fifty at that time, and like two or
Speaker 1: three months, nigga, you you go easy. You already go
Speaker 1: because they didn't already read up and you and read ship.
Speaker 1: But if I mean, you know, if you had three
Speaker 1: fifty in fucking two years, then yeah, I guess there's
Speaker 1: no reason to get a group of deal.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: So you baked into your deal, made sure it was
Speaker 1: in the right the group, make sure it was in
Speaker 1: the right homeans you was doing the Wotang deal. But well,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Woutang deal was. Making sure
Speaker 1: that everybody was in well, yeah, well, making sure that
Speaker 1: the label sticks to given them an opportunity eating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you you got to cooking. If you cook, you right, right.
Speaker 2: If you don't cook, you ain't gonna eat another You're
Speaker 2: gonna be relying on the no motherfucker to feed you.
Speaker 1: But if you can cook, you can eat.
Speaker 2: So everybody had an opportunity to go out there and cook.
Speaker 2: The group cook, so and our whole ship probably would
Speaker 2: have been different if he would have been out, because
Speaker 2: you know, at that time, whatever song you was on,
Speaker 2: if you had a feature, that was the next motherfucker
Speaker 2: to come out.
Speaker 1: He was actually on ride with me.
Speaker 2: But because he wasn't out when rival Me came up,
Speaker 2: because rival Me would have been a launch for him.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. He would have been that
Speaker 1: nigga don't drink like that. No, I just yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: what was that on me?
Speaker 2: I thought I was fucking up ship. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: don't charge. If he would have been out our course,
Speaker 2: uh could have been, would.
Speaker 1: Have been different.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been the way. It wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: the way that. It wouldn't have been the way that
Speaker 2: it turned out. Why that nigga get the comfortable chair.
Speaker 2: I'm older than him. That ship got owns.
Speaker 1: You got hydraulics on that ship. No, you played me.
Speaker 1: That chair was an option.
Speaker 4: We love.
Speaker 1: I got a line up the chairs. When you get
Speaker 1: niggas need options this year, nigga ain't no, sir, Paul, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, you know you gentlemen, ain't slip.
Speaker 1: I got the same ship he got, man, No, that's good.
Speaker 1: Tell your niggas. Tell these niggas man, Man, just city,
Speaker 1: many city, spud whatever you city. He would have been
Speaker 1: after the rival on the rat he was.
Speaker 2: He did the rat so he was on the demo
Speaker 2: originally he was on the record. Yeah, he was on
Speaker 2: the demo. No, you wasn't on the demo. No, he
Speaker 2: wasn't on the demo. I put put him on there
Speaker 2: once we did the album. Once we did because we
Speaker 2: re recorded everything.
Speaker 1: And then Highs for You wasn't in you. You in
Speaker 1: jail and this record is fucking number one. How does
Speaker 1: that nigga he made money in jail? They charged him
Speaker 1: to be in jail. Wait a minute, yeah you got jail.
Speaker 1: What isn't this nigga to be in there because you
Speaker 1: were making too much money? Oh yeah, yeah that's her.
Speaker 1: Wait what yeah? Ten seven hundred and fourteen dollars and
Speaker 1: thirty eight cents a year. Damn well yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like so.
Speaker 3: When if you're if you're worth more than what the
Speaker 3: government gives them per year?
Speaker 1: What yeah they charge you for Yeah yeah, that nigga
Speaker 1: pan for it to not go nowhere my shoes, my
Speaker 1: T shirts. This nigga out here with bad days, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: don't start that ship. Just started trusting this nagger for
Speaker 1: a long time.
Speaker 2: He looked over her shoulders, like no, but when this
Speaker 2: nigga first came home, he had to be comfortable.
Speaker 1: What he didn't like it was quick like people. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess it's move movements. When your movements, I don't know,
Speaker 1: niggas explain it's natural.
Speaker 2: You know, niggas doing no, but it's really natural when
Speaker 2: you done did nine years.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You know, niggas movements matter. That
Speaker 1: shows you not to like people. We on the bus
Speaker 1: move we on the bus moving to to loose. Whoa
Speaker 1: you just he was walking down calling each other boots
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what, like, man, bitch, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: niggas trying to die? Caught me a bitch? Y'all call
Speaker 1: it the other bitches? Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: So, what's the next thing? Because I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 5: with you. I was in Hawaii and when What's Sexy Red.
Speaker 1: That came on? He was in he was in the club,
Speaker 1: I was in a pool like that. She want to
Speaker 1: shoot everybody. I used to want shoot everybody. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: that what rappers going through the day. I think that's
Speaker 1: what she's going through. See just the thing and it's
Speaker 1: no just.
Speaker 2: There's no disrespect to any of our great female artists period.
Speaker 2: Because I'm a fan. Again, I don't judge. I don't
Speaker 2: judge you see what I'm saying. But if you want
Speaker 2: to talk like facts like men have taken so much
Speaker 2: and as is warranted mm hm, as it's justified. Men
Speaker 2: have taken for speaking the way that we do about
Speaker 2: our women in music.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So, but when you look at a span of when
Speaker 2: women have literally controlled the music, controlled the music.
Speaker 1: The biggest songs are definitely definitely songs of like sex,
Speaker 1: very much, very much sex. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like and again they can they can do that. It's
Speaker 1: not it's not an issue.
Speaker 2: But if you look at their stories, they're doing it
Speaker 2: more so because of the business.
Speaker 1: When you when you think because.
Speaker 2: They're rapping, but they're married and so in other words,
Speaker 2: you know, whole music, whole music was cool into a
Speaker 2: real hot showed.
Speaker 8: Up minus the Lauren Hills, minus the Queen Latifa's.
Speaker 1: Real music was cool until a real one showed up.
Speaker 1: I don't think you going to no, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like a real a real some real ship. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then a real one showed up and now everybody like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: well where you think it was going. Don't shop on
Speaker 1: our little sister now because she telling her truth, y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all opened the door for her to tell her truth.
Speaker 1: So don't ship on ours, you know what I mean, Like, nah,
Speaker 1: I don't shop on ours. It was cool to a
Speaker 1: real one showed up where they say King Vaughan gangster
Speaker 1: real music was cool to a real one showed up up.
Speaker 1: So you know, gangster music is cool until a real
Speaker 1: one show up. That's just facts and Searley came with that,
Speaker 1: that real on ans and either you could say what
Speaker 1: you want to say about it, but it's it's there,
Speaker 1: and it's possible because of something that came before it.
Speaker 1: Right If you mad at anything.
Speaker 2: That's before, you are in your face right now, don't
Speaker 2: get mad at what's in your face right now, get
Speaker 2: mad at.
Speaker 1: How it got there. Okay, so let's say this right
Speaker 1: now because that's what we advocate as a community because
Speaker 1: they you know, shuld'll be like.
Speaker 2: Yo, you know, you get mad on our brothers because
Speaker 2: they gotta do this, they do that. But we say, yo,
Speaker 2: track the history and then now you know how we
Speaker 2: got here, so that that has to be a factor
Speaker 2: in anything you don't like. If it's anything you do
Speaker 2: not like, don't question the why you don't like it
Speaker 2: in your face, question how what you got what you
Speaker 2: don't like is there, But but.
Speaker 8: Now we have an opportunity to shed line on other things.
Speaker 8: Sat Louis right now in St.
Speaker 1: Louis.
Speaker 14: Who's doing it right now? You know it's repping Saint
Speaker 14: Louis right now. I mean everybody that come out to
Speaker 14: lou rep Rep lou because it's a.
Speaker 8: It's A is the next the next evolution of MC
Speaker 8: is coming MC specific.
Speaker 1: I saw work with all of them right now. He
Speaker 1: could get hold of who who who hot out? Help
Speaker 1: you got you got J I like j R is always,
Speaker 1: but J j R Is a Saint Louis legend. He's
Speaker 1: he's he's dope. But I'm talking about them babies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: h slow well, maestro slower there. There's a little homie
Speaker 1: with him. Now he fires. Fuck.
Speaker 2: I don't even use my studio no more. I could
Speaker 2: barely get in there. My son produces and he gotta crazy,
Speaker 2: and the niggas took over.
Speaker 1: Man. They look, Oh, I got to schedule. I got
Speaker 1: to schedule time. I got a schedule. I got a
Speaker 1: schedule time in my own ship. What's your production name? Itzzle?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, I told you that they got to get out.
Speaker 1: You better come up with something.
Speaker 2: I love him to death. I will pick him up
Speaker 2: from anywhere. But we're gonna go fight, find you something
Speaker 2: to do together. You gotta do it right, got there, right,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with you.
Speaker 1: Now. But he dope, man, And I love it because
Speaker 1: he loves it.
Speaker 2: Because you don't, you know, just because your kids sometimes
Speaker 2: get into what you do. Sometimes they might feel like
Speaker 2: they supposed to. And I never want what I'm doing
Speaker 2: to make them feel like they shouldn't decide who they
Speaker 2: want to be, you know what I mean, or work
Speaker 2: for the right. The only thing I want them to
Speaker 2: do is be good people. I just say, Yo, just
Speaker 2: a good person. I don't give a fuck about none
Speaker 2: of that other ship. I mean, I hope you do
Speaker 2: something productive and what's the name, but just be a
Speaker 2: good person. At the end of the day, just be
Speaker 2: a good person. And that comes with just knowing treat
Speaker 2: everybody with respect.
Speaker 1: I don't give Yeah. Yeah's talk about juice.
Speaker 2: So after the respect, you want to go to pimp juice. No, yo,
Speaker 2: pimp juice that was in the pipping her when you had.
Speaker 1: The Definitely, I mean I'm talking asking a question. Listen.
Speaker 2: I didn't understand what kind of situation I was putting
Speaker 2: myself in with Pimp Juice and not from that. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about Nigga from the Pimps, not like that, which
Speaker 2: Nigga the Pimps was.
Speaker 1: Something Nigga like Nigga. We went, we went to we
Speaker 1: went to Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Cleveland, like, Nigga, Uh, what a you know?
Speaker 2: You Midwest Nigga, Like you got a bunch of the
Speaker 2: cities A lot of other people may not. But when
Speaker 2: you from the Midwest, you got a lot of favorite
Speaker 2: cities in the Midwest that.
Speaker 1: Everybody may not be. Like Nigga, that ship problem.
Speaker 2: Like that, like that, like but Cleveland at the time,
Speaker 2: like Cleveland, all that, Cincinnati, the Minnesota's all that ship.
Speaker 2: When we was first getting on Nigga, we we loved
Speaker 2: doing shows up and down that motherfucker, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So because it was rough in New York,
Speaker 2: first couple of nether shows, it was rough. I gotta
Speaker 2: tell you, Nigga, it was rough. Oh don't nobody won't
Speaker 2: say shit, You don't say nothing.
Speaker 1: No, I'm holding you personally responsible because I knew you first.
Speaker 1: You were supposed to put the word out. You should
Speaker 1: have hit me.
Speaker 2: Nah My, Nigga, we went Cleveland and all the pif
Speaker 2: because that's why they gave me that pimple juice the glass.
Speaker 1: Nigga.
Speaker 2: We walked in the club. It was after the concert
Speaker 2: we was on too. We walked to the club. You
Speaker 2: can see all these niggas right here, right cool.
Speaker 1: Our section is here.
Speaker 2: The way the club is set up, all the VIPs
Speaker 2: like this. The club is in the middle, so our
Speaker 2: v I section was over here. So we come through
Speaker 2: the door blind. We can see everybody like what. We
Speaker 2: go to our section. One song, we see these niggas.
Speaker 1: They were like, oh yeah, niggas. One song came on
Speaker 1: the nigga bow were like, niggas right there. Next song
Speaker 1: came on, the niggas bow were like, another song came on, niggas.
Speaker 1: That third song, these niggas was in the section nigga
Speaker 1: I saw to God, It's like a click went oh shit.
Speaker 2: Them niggas had their whole section over here. On God,
Speaker 2: they had their whole section over here, and it was
Speaker 2: like twenty of them with the chalices, and they had
Speaker 2: brought me my pimp juice cup. All the pimps had chalices. Nigga,
Speaker 2: they are in the club with the chalices he studied
Speaker 2: and everything.
Speaker 1: Look continue you get to you. No, I mean that,
Speaker 1: I wonder you couldn't believe it. I under say the experience.
Speaker 1: I was at the Players ball here in Miami, so
Speaker 1: I know all this ship too. Him. No, I've just
Speaker 1: said the experience with these brothers is unlike no other.
Speaker 1: We're in Cali and use the pimp. Nigga, what's the pimp? No,
Speaker 1: but you got it right. No, I didn't get pimper.
Speaker 1: I got the Player of the yea. Yeah, congratulations, But
Speaker 1: you got you got. I never got that. I never
Speaker 1: got that. I got Oh, you just gotta Siller jealous,
Speaker 1: damn ship God.
Speaker 2: Okay, Nah, I never got it, never got pimp all
Speaker 2: Player of the Year. But we nigga Don Magic wand
Speaker 2: the brother Don Magic wand Green and Yellow. We in
Speaker 2: the nigga were in the studio. I don't know our
Speaker 2: whole cuz don't get mad. But we were in the
Speaker 2: motherfucker studio Me Unc Snoop and Dom Magic wand we smoking,
Speaker 2: we smoking the butt the blood come to uh to
Speaker 2: Don Magic wand Magic wand.
Speaker 1: Through his nose, Oh ship nigga, Oh God, try to
Speaker 1: hand that motherfucker, un said she that's yours. Cuse yo, yo,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like, we cannot believe this motherfucker hit
Speaker 1: this blood through his nose and then try to hand
Speaker 1: somebody that ballfucking uncles like she that's yours? Cut you
Speaker 1: keep that. I had never seen no ship like that
Speaker 1: before in my life. I said this, man, Jay, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess the nose nose? God? Yo, man, I'm so
Speaker 1: proud of you. Thank you, cham I really, I really like.
Speaker 5: We come from alumni. Uh Like you know, college people
Speaker 5: have their ship. Well, we have our own ship. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: you got that. We got that society.
Speaker 2: But you come to find out that you can't funk
Speaker 2: with everybody in that society. We can, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying as far as the hip hop, but I
Speaker 2: think the the common around that you can find with
Speaker 2: anybody can be a foundation for any type of relationship,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So regardless regardless of what it is.
Speaker 2: It's like, Yo, if you can find a common ground
Speaker 2: that that means that much to you that you're able
Speaker 2: to be like, Okay, you respect that, Okay, I respect that.
Speaker 1: As far as you won't go that far. I won't
Speaker 1: go there far, you know, but you.
Speaker 5: You sing like like, I'll be honest, man, I love
Speaker 5: with what you what you did.
Speaker 1: I love because can you know what I saw? What
Speaker 1: I saw was termination m hm and who to love?
Speaker 2: He saw the vision, he saw the vision he had
Speaker 2: to because I didn't not like that. I mean, I
Speaker 2: was just in the group. I was in the group,
Speaker 2: and I'm going back and forth.
Speaker 1: Me and City because like I said again, he was
Speaker 1: producing a lot of music back then as well as rappers.
Speaker 1: So I would go sometimes sometimes I would take him
Speaker 1: because we stayed in t neck. We stayed in when
Speaker 1: I used to come up to the future record, he
Speaker 1: came up to generally a couple of times, not showing
Speaker 1: up to that video being locked up?
Speaker 3: How did that make you feel? I mean, by what
Speaker 3: the video the ride with Me video? I mean, by
Speaker 3: that time, I had missed so many videos. He was
Speaker 3: used to that, but I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 3: But this is the one that you featured on though. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I'm focused on what's going on there make the more, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I would Yeah, by that time, when it was just
Speaker 3: like okay, I didn't made the decision where.
Speaker 1: I have to mentally prepare yourself, and you gotta do that.
Speaker 8: You deal with what you're dealing with, right Yeah, school,
Speaker 8: that's dope, that's the outside step.
Speaker 2: But I gotta be I have to be where I am.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe they were charging that man to be
Speaker 2: in there though.
Speaker 1: That's the craziest I ever heard of my life. Right now,
Speaker 1: they charges to be in jail.
Speaker 2: Like because he's making money, he getting getting published, he
Speaker 2: gets like like he got he gets publishing off country
Speaker 2: grammar and like the contrary to rumor like.
Speaker 1: Or whatever, he's getting charged. Can't hear that? Mary wanting
Speaker 1: this right now? So when when all it makes the
Speaker 1: government they get a certain is that just the state
Speaker 1: of Is that just a statement? Everywhere is everywhere is
Speaker 1: a federal penitentiary.
Speaker 3: Federal gives the state a certain dollar amount per inmate persons.
Speaker 3: How they get mattresses, they pay for the pillars, to socks,
Speaker 3: the t shirts, underworld, that everything. So if you're worth
Speaker 3: more or as much as what you can get per
Speaker 3: year for each inmate, then they make you pay it yourself.
Speaker 1: What else?
Speaker 2: But I thought that was you Missouri law. I ain't
Speaker 2: know that they're doing that. Ship So niggas in jail
Speaker 2: right now in New York playing that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying that. No, but everybody ain't in
Speaker 1: st lunatics. Everybody ain't. No, I know, but it's some niggas.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, without saying some names right now.
Speaker 8: But it's wild because in third world countries they make
Speaker 8: you paid to be in prison.
Speaker 1: That's you just they don't know what they're paying that
Speaker 1: nigga who's paying. No, Yeah, but then you got to
Speaker 1: have the attorney general in the state that's on that
Speaker 1: like that. You know what I'm saying. That's wild man.
Speaker 5: Oh mister just saying in english's gonna understand the tools
Speaker 5: people party let's called Yeah, yeah, we get a chance
Speaker 5: to rock out.
Speaker 2: Uh party are tour myself job. There's a couple of
Speaker 2: people in there. I'm taking the tics texts back out
Speaker 2: with me. Well, you know, city always been here with
Speaker 2: me and majority of the crew except for one. Except
Speaker 2: for one motherfucker, Holly.
Speaker 1: He will never be anywhere near anything I'm doing.
Speaker 2: Don't wait till I get drunk to start doing that subject.
Speaker 2: But nah, you should have said that. We should have
Speaker 2: talked about this earlier when I could have composed myself
Speaker 2: right then, I'm gonna tell.
Speaker 1: No, it's all good. I'm just because you know why
Speaker 1: it's me. No, I don't hold that ship.
Speaker 5: Let me just say something. Yeah, outside of looking at
Speaker 5: that's the inside of looking out. Actually witnessed this Lunatics
Speaker 5: as a happy conquired with the group.
Speaker 1: Yo, I saw it me.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm I'm the best person to have
Speaker 5: a vision. What I'm saying is I saw it.
Speaker 1: And I loved it.
Speaker 5: I actually loved you know. I tell you, I tell
Speaker 5: you a story. I can only tell me one time.
Speaker 5: I can on you know, put it in your mouth,
Speaker 5: So I can only tell me one time. It's like, Yo,
Speaker 5: you know what, Yeah, I think I had did it Atlanta,
Speaker 5: and then I did uh Milwaukee, and y'all did Atlanta
Speaker 5: in Milwaukee right behind me, which fast right, and then
Speaker 5: and you know, I can only told me say, you know,
Speaker 5: you are ruling with the same amount of people of earlier,
Speaker 5: the same lunatics, but it's only you and the r
Speaker 5: m hmm. So he basically mc hammer.
Speaker 1: He basically said, they said, but I got none of
Speaker 1: them is ten million, and I had the same amount
Speaker 1: of people that ever I was feeling with me. But
Speaker 1: that's where we're from again.
Speaker 2: And then go back to when you're young and you're thugging,
Speaker 2: you know, listening, you know what I'm saying. And it
Speaker 2: goes to what I was saying about the older people
Speaker 2: having a lot more patience with the young ones, because
Speaker 2: you got to know what we didn't do. Like we
Speaker 2: always like to say we had og we listened to. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we didn't, and we didn't listen to And you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, it's just not like that. But
Speaker 1: but but let's just get with you.
Speaker 2: But with you having a lot of them people out,
Speaker 2: you probably had a lot of brothers that was from
Speaker 2: your area, a lot of brothers you was.
Speaker 1: Trying to help.
Speaker 5: I want to save everyone. So I tell you, like, well,
Speaker 5: I can only tell me that. I can only said, man,
Speaker 5: you know so many people.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I look to you because you hoping
Speaker 2: a lot of the motherfuckers don't want going I want
Speaker 2: to save it. Hold on, let me, well, not just
Speaker 2: save everybody, but you hoping it's somebody in there that's
Speaker 2: looking around, that's going to find a lane.
Speaker 1: It's not about you carving out a lane for everybody.
Speaker 2: What happens is that niggas think it's your job to
Speaker 2: carve them out a lane. It's just to help them
Speaker 2: see more than they would have saw on their own.
Speaker 2: All you're supposed to do is help the motherfuckers see
Speaker 2: more than what they would have.
Speaker 1: Saw on their own. It's up to that person. If
Speaker 1: that person ain't got it, they ain't got it.
Speaker 2: So why should you stake your reputation on a motherfucker
Speaker 2: who ain't gonna go out? Because a motherfucker that hard,
Speaker 2: you ain't got to stake your reputation.
Speaker 1: On it, he gonna go. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like, nigga, if you know you gotta go dude,
Speaker 2: ther you ain't gonna take a nigga who might shoot.
Speaker 1: You. Won't take a nigga who you know gonna get down.
Speaker 1: But how hard is it? Because for me, are you
Speaker 1: thinking they gonna go down? Come to find out, some
Speaker 1: niggas just want you to call that shit out. You're like,
Speaker 1: damn you look back, like nigga you you yeah.
Speaker 15: You know because for me as a leader, right, the
Speaker 15: hardest job in the world, hardest job in the world,
Speaker 15: really leaders, really hardest job in the world is to
Speaker 15: lead on any level, just.
Speaker 1: Not that up it a little bit.
Speaker 5: Hardest job is to lead with good intentions, because if
Speaker 5: you're leading with good intentions, you're gonna be contigued.
Speaker 2: Well, those are your blessings. You can lead with bad intentions, Okay,
Speaker 2: but but you're you're the You're the one with the
Speaker 2: most initiative. You're the one with the most drive.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, Like, because you can have
Speaker 1: bad intentions. They do it all the time. Coats.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker follow a coat off the side of a motherfucker mountain.
Speaker 2: You shot what I'm saying, like, give you their money.
Speaker 2: They motherfucker make you dress a certain way, haveing sex.
Speaker 1: With your wife and your daughters.
Speaker 2: Are Like a motherfucker can mentally fuck your head up
Speaker 2: to where you truly are believing in this person and
Speaker 2: you are allowing things that you know, on the other hand,
Speaker 2: are truly immoral to what you should.
Speaker 1: Believe or how you do. But he got you so
Speaker 1: fucked up you believe this is the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: being a leader, it's still hard for that motherfucking coat leader.
Speaker 1: That nigga still up at night, worried about how you're
Speaker 1: gonna keep control, or.
Speaker 2: How he worried about an uprising. At any moment, he's
Speaker 2: working that harder, you know, like the devil. The devil
Speaker 2: worked harder. Thank god, he up all night. He worked
Speaker 2: harder than guy. He gotta change your motherfucking mind a
Speaker 2: little bit. Take it the picture, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: You're a granddad. Get you, get you some water. You're
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