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Speaker 1: Welcome to the giant UBTLE podcast. My name is John

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Speaker 1: Schmult today we're gonna be joined by a member of

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Speaker 1: our broadcast team and giant legend, Carl Banks. With Carl

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the giants heading into the ring

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Speaker 1: of honor round of course, going to preview giants and

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Speaker 1: cowboys on Monday night. Just a reminder, the giant Hubtle

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Speaker 1: G and now we're joined by our broadcast partner, friend

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Speaker 1: of the program and, of course, giants legend, Carl Banks. Carl,

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Speaker 1: what's going on, man, good man, never a dull moment Um.

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Speaker 1: Getting Ready for the Dallas game and working on a

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Speaker 1: few other giant related things that we'll be talking about

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Speaker 1: soon after this ring of honor. Yeah, absolutely we can.

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Speaker 1: We can tease that at the end here the game

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Speaker 1: against the bears. You might have some fun stuff going

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Speaker 1: on that end of the game later in the year.

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Speaker 1: But first let's start the ring of honor. On Monday

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Speaker 1: night call, you have connections to five of the guys

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Speaker 1: heading in, your teammates, Joe Morris, Otis Anderson, Rodney Hampton,

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Speaker 1: Leon Marshall, of course, vice president of Medical Services, Ronnie

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Speaker 1: by one, or whoever you want. Just to tell me

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Speaker 1: the giants ring of honor. Well, I mean it's not

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Speaker 1: with Ronnie Barnes and he's not not only a great

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Speaker 1: a friend of a friend. Right. So someone reaches out

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Speaker 1: He's never, never, not been an assist uh, or helping

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Speaker 1: like a legacy of greatness. Like when you look at

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Speaker 1: forget to make sure you're a metlife stadium for that

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Speaker 1: home game on September, twenty six giants and the rival

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great game. Limited individual and group

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Speaker 1: Take us to secure your seat today. So, Carl as,

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