1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtis. Here are the stories we're 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: following today. The US has struck targets in Iraq and 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: also Hooti rebels attacking a container ship in the Red 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Sea at Baxter has that story and more from San Francisco. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, that's a Hoothy attack. The Pentagon says it's 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: forest launch strikes against three installations in Iraq. Has not 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: only the ships, but also US bases have become targets 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: of the Hoothies. Bloomberg's Henry Meyer takes us through the process. 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: This was in retaliation for an attack on a US 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: base in Iraq that wounded three servicemen. So, you know, 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: I think that this is a pattern which we've seen 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 3: in the past. Obviously, they've been in a series of 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: attacks in recent weeks on US military installations in both 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: Syria and Iraq, which have met with American retaliation. 15 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: As for the container ship, it was enroute to Pakistan 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: from Saudi Arabia. The company says it's assessing but will 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: be sending it around the Cape of Good Hope. US says, well, 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: it is not seeking to escalate conflict in the region. 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: It will protect its people and facilities. So with that, 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: there is a risk of widening war or is there well. 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: Terry Haynes of a Pangaea policy in Bloomberg says there 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: is well more risk. 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 4: The risk I think is greater than a trailing risk. 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: I don't think it is inevitable or substantial at this 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: point though. But what the United States is going to 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 4: have to do is going to have to move past 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 4: kind of negative optioning things, by which I mean deciding 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: to take or not take certain actions and deal a 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: little bit more holistically now. 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, growing unrest in Israel over the holiday is a 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: demonstration's form asking for Prime Minister net and Yahoo to 32 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: get them freedom the hostages. Lek Harpas says a ceasefire 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: must be reached and reached soon. 34 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 5: Just admit that you failed and do the deal and 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 5: bring them back and you know, and after that you 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 5: need to start a long term negotiation for these two 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 5: state one state, don't you know, I don't care. 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: And the United Nations Secretary General Antonio Gutera says he's 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: named a senior humanitarian and reconstruction coordinator for Gaza. This 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: comes as Israel warns it will no longer automatically issue 41 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: visas for un representatives. Top Biden administration officials will be 42 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: in Mexico tomorrow to discuss the influx of migrants. Bloomberg's 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 2: Nancy Lyons has a story. 44 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 6: US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln and Secretary of Homeland 45 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 6: Security Alejandre Mayorcis will meet with Mexican President Andre's Manuel 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 6: Lopez Obrador to address the ongoing border security challenges and 47 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 6: what each country can do to alleviate the problem. B 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 6: Lincoln's office notes the migration across the southern border has 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 6: been unprecedented. Lincoln is expected to focus on creating legal 50 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 6: pathway into the US, as well as additional enforcement in Washington. 51 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 6: Nancy Lyons Bloomberg Radio. 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Nacy. Global News twenty four hours 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: a day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News 54 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: now in San Francisco. I'm at Baxter in. This is 55 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: Bloomberg garb Brian. 56 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: All right, thanks very much. 57 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 7: Ed. 58 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: Top business stories here. Apple says it is appealing a 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: ban on its smart watches. The move comes after the 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: White House declined to overturn a ruling. We get more 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: on the story from Bloomberg's Karen Moscow. 62 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 7: The ban followed a ruling from the US International Trade 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 7: Commission in October that determined Apple violated two Massimo Health 64 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 7: Technology patents related to a blood oxygen sensor in its watches. 65 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 7: After a review of the ban, the Office of the 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 7: US Trade Representative put out a statement today saying it 67 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 7: decided not to reverse the decision. Apple has stopped selling 68 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 7: the Apple Watch Series nine and Ultra two in the US. 69 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 7: The band threatens a business that generated about seventeen billion 70 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 7: dollars in revenue in the last fiscal year, according to 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 7: analyst estimates. Karen Moscow Bloomberg. 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Radio, and Apple stock actually was down about three tenths 73 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: of one percent in the latest trading. We'll have our 74 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: reporter Mark German for more color on the story. Well, 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: brister Miles Squibb has agreed to buy the drug developer 76 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: raised Bio for four point one billion dollars. It's the 77 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: latest deal in a spending spree by the company aimed 78 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: at bolsterring its pipeline. We get more on this from 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Madison Mueller. 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 8: Pharmaceutical companies. Big Pharma is really interested in getting in 81 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 8: on this space. We've seen deals with Eli, Lilly and Co. 82 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 8: Earlier this year at Bristol have bought another cancer drug maker, 83 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 8: Marati in October as well. We obviously have the massive 84 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 8: Advisor Stagen deal that was in the cancer drug space 85 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,559 Speaker 8: as well. So what's different about these drugs is these 86 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 8: are more targeted at the tumors. They attack the cancerous 87 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 8: cells and they leave the other healthy cells relatively unscathed. 88 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 8: There's a lot of innovation happening in this space, and 89 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 8: big pharma wants in on. 90 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: That Berg's Madison Mueller. AstraZeneca has agreed to acquire China's 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: Gray Cell Biotechnologies for as much as one point two 92 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: billion dollars. That story from Bloomberg's Tracy Junkie. 93 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 9: AstraZeneca has agreed to acquire Shanghai based Gray Cell Biotechnologies 94 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 9: and a deal worth as much as one point two 95 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 9: billion dollars. Grey Sale's work is in cell therapy, modifying 96 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 9: a patient's own immune sales to fight cancer. According to 97 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 9: their statement, one therapy and the works could treat blood 98 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 9: cancers such as multiple myeloma and autoimmune. 99 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 10: Diseases like lupus. 100 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 9: Astra in November struck another deal with Chinese biotech Echogene 101 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 9: to co develop a weight loss pill Tracy Jonkie Bloomberg 102 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 9: Radio Well. 103 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: FedEx shares rose after the package shipping company entered into 104 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: a share repurchase agreement with Mazooho Markets Americas. The agreement 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: is to repurchase one billion dollars of FedEx's common stock. 106 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: Under the terms of the deal, FedEx will receive an 107 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: initial share delivery of roughly three zo point two million shares. 108 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: On December twenty eighth, FedEx is up forty five percent 109 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: this year, despite slumping recently in the wake of giving 110 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: a disappointing outlook. China is sanctioning a US company and 111 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: two human rights researchers over work related to Shinjog. Bloomberg's 112 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Bonniao has the story from Hong Kong. 113 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 10: China's Foreign Ministry said it was freezing any assets held 114 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 10: in China by the firm Coron. Coron is an early 115 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 10: based company that identifies sanctions and compliance risks for organizations. 116 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 10: Two researchers at Caron were also bought from entering China 117 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 10: and had any assets there frozen. Chinese companies are now 118 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 10: banned from working with them and the company. It's the 119 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 10: latest in a dispute between the US and China on 120 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 10: allegations of forced labor in Shinjiang. Earlier this month, the 121 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 10: US sanctioned a pair of Chinese officials. They were said 122 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 10: to be linked to human rights abuses against minority groups, 123 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 10: including vegas in the region in Hong Kong. I'm Bonnie 124 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 10: al Bloomberg Radio. 125 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: Joining US now for a closer look at the Apple 126 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: story is Mark German, Bloomberg, Chief correspondent on Global Technology. Mark, 127 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: thanks very much for being with us. So Apple will 128 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: challenge this, Ben, what are the grounds that we think 129 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: they'll have or be using for the challenge? 130 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 11: Well, this is pretty cut and dry from the ITC, 131 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 11: the International Tree Commission, and Massimo point of view. Apple 132 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 11: violated these patents. They need to do something so they're 133 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 11: no longer in violation. And Apple's belief is they have 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 11: a software update up its sleeves that will bring the 135 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 11: Apple Watch in compliance with the ITC. And so what 136 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 11: Apple has done is they submitted detail of this software 137 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 11: upgrade to the US Customs Agency and on January twelve, 138 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 11: the US Customs Agency will make a decision whether or 139 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 11: not to approve the refresh to the Watch to make 140 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 11: that fix. And if they go ahead and approve that 141 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 11: and the ITC and other entities and the US agree 142 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 11: the Apple Watch can come back to market. Obviously, this 143 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 11: is a potentially lengthy and windy process, and this is 144 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 11: something they are probably going to have to go back 145 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 11: on forth with them a couple times. But we see 146 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 11: some resolutions possibly occurring in the next two or three 147 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 11: weeks or so. 148 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: Might there be any damages paid to Masimo? 149 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 11: No, no, no, The damages would have come in a 150 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 11: lawsuit that actually ended it in a hung jury. This 151 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 11: was a couple months ago, and this was the lawsuit 152 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 11: over patent infringement over trade secrets. So that lawsuit ended 153 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 11: in a hung jury. Masumo actually asked for three billion 154 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 11: dollars espectually three point one billion. The judge knocked down 155 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 11: the damages in half to one point something billion. Apple said, 156 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 11: if they they're found guilty, they should only owe about 157 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 11: thirty five million, As a good lawyer does knock that 158 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 11: down to, you know, less than three percent of the 159 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 11: total equation of what the company is asking for. But yeah, 160 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 11: that ended in a mistrial. Now that's going back to 161 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 11: trial round two, probably at the tail end of this 162 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 11: year or the tail end of twenty twenty four. But 163 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 11: until then, there's going to be no damages. This is 164 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 11: purely an injunction in two parts, importing the devices into 165 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 11: the US and seizing sales at Apple retail and online stores. 166 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 11: So no damage is here. The only damage is to 167 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 11: Apple's bottom line of not being able to push out 168 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 11: as many watches as they normally would. 169 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we mentioned that the reaction in the marketplace 170 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: wasn't so severe today with Apple stock down three tenths 171 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: of a percent. We have seen some considerable gains for 172 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Masimo over the past month or so, but let's set 173 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: that aside for the moment. In terms of the reaction 174 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: for Apple, we do say in our story that the 175 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: business does generate some seventeen billion dollars in sales. Is 176 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: that not large enough to really move the needle on 177 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: earnings or is there another reason why the stock didn't 178 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: budget that much? 179 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 11: Okay, well, to answer one question, the seventeen billion on 180 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 11: an annual basis is material on an annual basis. If 181 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 11: you look at it in terms of sales, stopping for 182 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 11: a month, you're talking about a one or so billion 183 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 11: dollar head win, maybe two billion dollars head win at most. 184 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 11: So I would consider that fairly immaterial. Second part of 185 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 11: your question is why didn't the stock move today. Well, 186 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 11: nothing happened today, Brian. To be honest with you, this 187 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 11: move happened two days ago. Apple stores stopped selling the 188 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 11: launches two days ago, and the move was essentially finalized 189 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 11: and announced about eight days ago, not yesterday, but the 190 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 11: previous Monday. So there was nothing necessarily new for the 191 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 11: market to trade on. The market had been trading on 192 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 11: this for the past eight days, so it was completely 193 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 11: priced in at this point. The development we had today 194 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 11: was the trade organization. Catherine Tie, the ambassador for that 195 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 11: organization in the US, put out a statement saying that 196 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 11: she wouldn't be detilling or intervening. Well, that was obvious 197 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 11: given the sales stop two days ago. So that's true. 198 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 11: But you're not seeing much of a reaction. 199 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you know. The market does tend to 200 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: overreact a little in some of these cases. Let's talk 201 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: a little bit about Massimo stock. It was up twenty 202 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: seven percent over the past month or so, so this 203 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: has meant a great deal to the company. 204 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 11: So why are Masimo investors buying up more stock or 205 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 11: why are people investing in Masamo? Let me give you 206 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 11: a couple one. I believe that there are hopes from 207 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 11: certain investors or people who are buying into the stock 208 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 11: that Apple will need to strike in agreement with Massimo 209 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 11: to inject more cash into Massimo in order to get 210 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 11: a cross licensing agreement or buy a portion of the patent portfolio, 211 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 11: which would obviously juice Masumo revenue considerably. And if you're 212 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 11: getting in at the current price in Masumo, you might 213 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 11: be getting lucky because it may go up significantly because 214 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 11: of that influx of money from Apple. Right, that is 215 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 11: a bet that some people are making now who was 216 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 11: up to me. I don't trade on Massimo. I would 217 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 11: bet against that because I don't think there's going to 218 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 11: be a settlement. Part two, Massimo is now a household 219 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 11: name thinks is lost in this Apple No matter how 220 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 11: many millions they spent on this lawsuit, no matter how 221 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 11: briefly or how long the Apple Watch is banned from 222 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 11: retail stores and online in the US, what they've spent 223 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 11: and invested on this is priceless in terms of marketing. 224 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 11: So many people are now familiar with Massimo that had 225 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 11: no idea Masimo existed two months ago, and that's great 226 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 11: for their stock. 227 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: Well back to Apple, because that's the one that most 228 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: people know about. One of the points I think that 229 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned was that Apple is not selling this now, 230 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: but other retailers are still able to, like Best Buying, 231 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Walmart and such, they can sell these products for what 232 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: just I guess as long as they last. 233 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 11: They can sell these products as long as they last. 234 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 11: That's right, because like I said at the two part 235 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 11: in junction one is the season desisted Apple retail and online, 236 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 11: as well as the import band. As long as Best Buying, 237 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 11: Target and Walmart and Costco and you name it have 238 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 11: supplied the Apple Watch, they can keep going. The problem 239 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 11: is is if they run out of new watches before 240 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 11: some a concession is reached to be able to import 241 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 11: new ones from China and Vietnam. 242 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you know this, and pardon 243 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: me if I'm catching by surprise, but do companies like 244 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: Target and Walmart do they sell much of this compared 245 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: to what Apple actually moves out of its own retail. 246 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a good question. The majority of Apple products 247 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 11: are actually sold outside of Apple's retail channels, right, and 248 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 11: particularly for the iPhone. The iPhone, more than fifty percent 249 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 11: of iPhones are sold from the carriers, so certainly that 250 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 11: is a component. But I think the bigger picture here 251 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 11: is this is not really going to impact are effect 252 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 11: they're Q one because Apple only stops sales on the 253 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 11: twenty first and online the twenty fourth retail stores. 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