WEBVTT - Common: Breaking Destructive Cycles

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple Podcasts. On this Red Table Talk, He's won

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<v Speaker 1>an Oscar and Emmy, a Golden Globe, and three Grammys

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<v Speaker 1>for his groundbreaking lyricism comment. He's taking a seat at

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<v Speaker 1>the table to share how he overcame the obstacles that

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<v Speaker 1>kept him from healing and finding real love. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in a breakup and the breakup was it was a

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<v Speaker 1>psycho repeating for me. I was like, man, why do

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<v Speaker 1>I keep doing this? How do I keep getting put

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<v Speaker 1>in this position? In his memoir Let Love Have the

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<v Speaker 1>Last Word, Common reveals how painful conversations with his family

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<v Speaker 1>forced him to make a drastic change. My daughter Mayer

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<v Speaker 1>confronted me and I was hurt and I was mad too.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's ready to answer our most burning question. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to be a d what's your ideal woman comments? Ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>listen up, we are about to meet Common. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why I wanted him to come to the

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<v Speaker 1>table was because there were definitely specific things in his

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<v Speaker 1>story that were very relatable to my story. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was raised by a single mother. Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had bouts with excessive drinking like I did. For it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like for similar reasons. And also I've been on

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<v Speaker 1>the search of the meaning of love as well. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship with his daughter that is very parallel to

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<v Speaker 1>the experience that you and Daddy had. Exactly. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations we've been having in our house is the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of men. Your dad included making the distinction between

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<v Speaker 1>providing for their family versus caring for their family. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Usually those men are not really caring about how they

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<v Speaker 1>feel in that case, they're not thinking about how the

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<v Speaker 1>people around them. I feel for man when when he's

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<v Speaker 1>challenged by his daughter, it makes him have to look

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<v Speaker 1>at things in a different way, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really related to his to his book, Well, let's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just bring them on out coming at real Good

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<v Speaker 1>to see you again. I'm so glad to have you here.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really moved by your book, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the major things in your book that moved me was

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<v Speaker 1>repairing your relationship with your daughter. Because we had a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of that and in that house, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in regards to will just thought winning, He

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<v Speaker 1>thought providing was enough, you know, until one day Willow

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, this is what was that conversation? What

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<v Speaker 1>was it? I don't even think it was a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was me choosing to just be like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do that. I can't do this

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<v Speaker 1>anyway right, like that's doing the whip, the hair and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that kind of stuff. It took her and

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<v Speaker 1>that relationship for him to stop and have to reevaluate

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<v Speaker 1>what is love. But my daughter Mayer confronted me because

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a late night call, so I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was like getting a call that was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a cool dad, Like it was like two in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. I actually had to start a film the

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<v Speaker 1>next day, so I was like, I'm gonna call you back,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk to are. And she called me right back like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even care, you don't even see why I

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<v Speaker 1>was at you. And it really it shook me for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute because I was like, wait, what what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? You know I don't and no, mother

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<v Speaker 1>and I weren't together, so it was becoming a fight

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to know. And then so eventually that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation turned into her saying you weren't there for me,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't fight for me as a father. It made

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<v Speaker 1>me feel like defensive. I was hurt and I was

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<v Speaker 1>mad too, because I'm like, you really believe some of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. What I really learned was like and after

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<v Speaker 1>I got past my own ego and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>got that, I said, look, you're right, I didn't fight

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to acknowledge that, and and I just

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<v Speaker 1>need to listen to her because this is what she's

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like, no matter what I think I've done, and

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<v Speaker 1>this and that, like, this is how she feels. And

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<v Speaker 1>and that was like one of those Heavens open moments

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<v Speaker 1>of me understanding how to apply love or like how

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<v Speaker 1>to and the way that it looked for her. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you believed you were doing your thing, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're a good dad. No, I definitely believe that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>why you're upset because you're like, wait, I thought everything

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<v Speaker 1>was fine. What's happening? Yeah, but I mean you know

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<v Speaker 1>something you just said, Jada too is like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>grow up necessarily with my father, right, So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways I learned to be a man is from

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<v Speaker 1>my homies and like other father figures, and to provide

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<v Speaker 1>and protect was the two most important things that we

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<v Speaker 1>but they've been passed down from generation we learned, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm a caring individual, but I had to get

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<v Speaker 1>past beyond just like providing and protecting because of love

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<v Speaker 1>is an action word. That's what I've been really like,

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<v Speaker 1>It's an action word. So it's like that type of

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<v Speaker 1>understanding and just paying attention is what we weren't equipped with,

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<v Speaker 1>like we had that, you know exactly. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the that's the most important aspect of it

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<v Speaker 1>is if you're not allowed to like look at yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and feel your emotions like as deeply as you need

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<v Speaker 1>to feel them, you're you're never gonna truly understand how

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate your emotions to other people and how to

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<v Speaker 1>and how to emote. You know, when you put stuff

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<v Speaker 1>out on the table, you put the truth out there,

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<v Speaker 1>it strengthens the relationship, you know. It's like Moya was

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<v Speaker 1>harboring those feelings because she felt like, well, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>always have my dad here, so if I tell him

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff he did wrong, then I'm them less. Once

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<v Speaker 1>she was able to put it out, she felt liberated

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<v Speaker 1>and free and now she's more secure and the fact that, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell your dad whatever you need to tell them,

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<v Speaker 1>and the love is going to be there. We had

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<v Speaker 1>our own therapy session together because she was smart. She

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<v Speaker 1>was smart about She was like, Dad, we for this

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<v Speaker 1>book come out. We need to resolve this because she

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<v Speaker 1>said that. So we've been doing really great overall. She

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<v Speaker 1>just graduated from how our university. There was one aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of the book I'm very interested in why you decided

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<v Speaker 1>to reveal. I saw The Tale and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really difficult movie to watch, you know, it was really

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<v Speaker 1>it was rough. It's about a young woman who her

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<v Speaker 1>mother finds her diaries and realizes that she had been molests,

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<v Speaker 1>really raped. Yeah, so the writer directors the the woman

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<v Speaker 1>where it happens, so it was her story. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>movie was starring Laura Dern and I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>films playing her husband. While we were rehearsing, we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about sexual abuse and going through some things, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it popped in my mind and it was

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<v Speaker 1>strange because if I never had this thought but that

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<v Speaker 1>I was sexually abused, that I was molested, but I

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<v Speaker 1>had locked it out of my mind and until I

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<v Speaker 1>got to that film was the first time I faced

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<v Speaker 1>it since the night that that that I was molested. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like nine years old and it was by

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<v Speaker 1>my cousin's guy brother. So it was a difficult situation

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<v Speaker 1>for me to grasp onto UM and I started working

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<v Speaker 1>through it. Where let's say, what's interesting is that in

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<v Speaker 1>the book, you don't consider yourself a victim. Now why

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<v Speaker 1>is that? Well, I don't feel a victim because I

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<v Speaker 1>see myself as somebody who overcame that situation. I brought

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<v Speaker 1>it up in the book because it was like me

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<v Speaker 1>really doing my best to show what forgiveness can be about.

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<v Speaker 1>And though I'm still in that process, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>core of what I wanted to achieve. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into like this level of forgiveness, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to forgive for myself so I can move forward, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I talked about it also because we as black men,

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<v Speaker 1>black people don't talk about sexual abuse in our communities

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<v Speaker 1>and because it's taboo, and it's like you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>that uncle or that cousin to look bad. The family,

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<v Speaker 1>don't want the person to look bad, But what about

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<v Speaker 1>the child that's been effective? And then a child feels

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<v Speaker 1>like they can't say nothing, they can't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>How did your family feel and finding out, like your daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>your mother about what you had been through. My mother

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<v Speaker 1>took a little time to process it. Like when I

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<v Speaker 1>first told her, she was in shock a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a principal, so she knew about it happening

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of kids in her school, but to

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<v Speaker 1>have it happen her own child, so that shocked up.

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<v Speaker 1>But we didn't talk much about it for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she just recently told me that she really

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<v Speaker 1>was like sad at one point about it. Then she

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<v Speaker 1>felt guilty at one point, but she's like, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad you're talking about this. But my daughter was Amy

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<v Speaker 1>was really proud. She was like, this really happened to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like yeah, And that's when she started process.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, man, you you know, I really am

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<v Speaker 1>proud of you for you know, when she when your

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<v Speaker 1>daughter tell you proud, you feel that all right? Good? Good?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? So yeah I know that. Also, um therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, And I think in the book you

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<v Speaker 1>said you started going to therapy in what was that

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<v Speaker 1>feeling or that moment that that made you Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you I made you make that decision. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember hitting up to that yeah rock bottom where it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, look I'm about to kill myself. Somebody back,

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<v Speaker 1>come help me. So what what was that feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>made you decide like, all right, I gotta I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>talk to somebody. I was in a breakup and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like the breakup was it was a psycho repeating

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<v Speaker 1>for me, Like I felt like I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>why do I keep doing this? How do I keep

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<v Speaker 1>getting put in this position or put myself in this position?

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<v Speaker 1>My acting coach she was like, I think you need

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<v Speaker 1>to talked to Susan, who was a therapist that I

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<v Speaker 1>sent people to. She's really good. And I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of still in the mode of like, I'm open to

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<v Speaker 1>trying a lot of things to work on myself, don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, But I wasn't all the way there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember it was strange because I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the car with w A. Moyer and we were about

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<v Speaker 1>to fly somewhere and I had to get in the

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<v Speaker 1>back seat to talk in private to the to the therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>But I needed it right then and there, like because

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<v Speaker 1>I was going through a pain that was just like

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get this off me so I could be

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<v Speaker 1>better for myself, for a moyer, for everything that I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the the catalysts, yeah, to get me there.

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<v Speaker 1>But as soon as I talked, I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is I felt. The healing happened as the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>was going, and I felt like things I was learning

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<v Speaker 1>about myself that I didn't no. I had the bad

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the wounds that I was carrying. I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to know those things so I can identify them and

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<v Speaker 1>like really say, man, if I want to quit your cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>I can make the change. What you said something very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting in your book. You said I had no real

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<v Speaker 1>memories of my parents loving each other, and our parents

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<v Speaker 1>are the first lovers we observe in our lives, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that on a lot of levels. And

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<v Speaker 1>trying to learn how to love a woman or learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to love a child, you know, it's it's difficult

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<v Speaker 1>because you're right, it's like we're not giving a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of examples, you know, and let let me. It's like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>my mother gave me all the love she could, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of that love was even pain too, because of

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<v Speaker 1>her and my father not being together, and that struggle,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with mother's son connections that a mother, like a

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<v Speaker 1>single mother, sometimes will put the responsibility of the husband

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<v Speaker 1>onto the to the young boy, to the child, and

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<v Speaker 1>the child is like, man, he's trying to do his best,

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<v Speaker 1>but he can't do what a husband could do, like

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<v Speaker 1>just provide the emotional energy and love and that um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that eventually transfers into like kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>an intimacy avoidance or something because you feel you feel

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure. Yeah, And so any time that show up

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship and you don't know it's from the past,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I don't want this, feel this, This feel

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<v Speaker 1>familiar in a bad way. It's so deep because I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard a lot of men raised by single mothers the

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty of in the fear of having deep intimate relationships

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<v Speaker 1>because of feeling like they're going to get swallowed, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose their their controls. Yeah. Yeah, and the mothers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't know that, they're just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>offer their love. Like I've been in situations where I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in a good relationship but the woman she needed

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<v Speaker 1>certain things, and I felt like it was becoming too mother. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was too much, and I was like, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to communicate that. Yeah, it reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>my mother. I need to identify it's really happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>if it is, I should be able to communicate that

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<v Speaker 1>and say the things I need. But that takes the evolution,

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<v Speaker 1>as you were saying, Willow, just to being able to

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<v Speaker 1>know what your emotions are, identifying them, and be able

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate that to somebody in a relationship. That's something

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<v Speaker 1>to give men more freedom to do that, like just

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<v Speaker 1>from the get go. And that's what the therapist help me.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm like, black people, let's use therapy. Man's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm not telling everybody like it's the only solution,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's so many tools out there for us to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the things that we've carried over through generations.

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<v Speaker 1>Therapy is one of those things from a personal level

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<v Speaker 1>to a generational level where you can hear I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what was deep too. I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>there was a line I'll tell you there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in the book when you said you said that you

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<v Speaker 1>thought love was desired, right, yes, you know, willing, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have lots of conversations about trying to differentiate a

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<v Speaker 1>man stealing desire being the meaning of love. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>real thing that we as men really identify that as

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<v Speaker 1>being a love thing. When you're like yearning for this

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<v Speaker 1>person and it's it's but you get that feeling and

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<v Speaker 1>you want that feeling, and that's something that I really

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<v Speaker 1>used to like really think like, Okay, that tingle in

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<v Speaker 1>my stomach is what I want and that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>kept seeking that, and I know that that felt good.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you were getting these relationships and once the

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<v Speaker 1>once the tingle started to fade, you go deep. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think I think that was one issue

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<v Speaker 1>for sure for me. When that in love or honeymoon

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<v Speaker 1>whatever we all call it phase goes, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this don't feel as good, and I would start coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with excuses on why the relationship is not gonna work. Like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm in relationships, I don't do work as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to actually telling myself that, like my albums

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<v Speaker 1>are not as good, I don't focusing yeah for real,

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<v Speaker 1>And I really believed it, you know, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a matter of like getting past those walls I

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<v Speaker 1>had within myself to do the work like be like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what those walls were. And like the

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<v Speaker 1>therapist I work with, Susan, she was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>important things she said to me was like when I

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<v Speaker 1>was chasing for certain things or you know, like yearning

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling, she was like, remember you got guys loving you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Phil. You gotta remember like that. That really

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<v Speaker 1>helped ground me because it's like some of this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>I'm chasing, what am I doing? I read in the

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<v Speaker 1>book also that like myself, I was an excessive drinker

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<v Speaker 1>as well, you know, and I realized that part of

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<v Speaker 1>that was just needing to have that extreme feeling. You. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that I had to stop doing that, but

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<v Speaker 1>for you specifically, like how did you really just focus yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I started it by changing my diet, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of our biggest addictions that we don't like

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<v Speaker 1>American American don't talk about this food. But once I

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<v Speaker 1>saw I was able to not eat certain foods, that

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<v Speaker 1>showed me that I had the willpower to stop like

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<v Speaker 1>chasing girls as much like that was that was my

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<v Speaker 1>entry before I even knew it was an entry, that

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<v Speaker 1>was my entry, and then it just became what is

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<v Speaker 1>adding onto my life? Like if I go answer this

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<v Speaker 1>girl who texting me saying, oh you want to hang out?

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah, is this aligned with my overall purpose?

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<v Speaker 1>And and you know what is your real intention? My

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<v Speaker 1>intention is my attention and yo, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt anybody else. I don't want to extract energy from

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<v Speaker 1>me that I don't want to give away. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just started identifying those things and disciplined myself. But it

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<v Speaker 1>started with food and then it kind of rolled over

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<v Speaker 1>to alcohol where I could be like, Okay, I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna drink as much. I still had my little time.

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<v Speaker 1>I work hard. I'm like, oh blah, come out to

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<v Speaker 1>get nice right right now. You said in the book

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<v Speaker 1>also that you've accomplished everything, but that you're not a husband. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's all. And the fact that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a husband. Yeah, I would like to be a husband.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. You know, for a long time I was

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<v Speaker 1>in and out with that, like do I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a husband or am I doing this because

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<v Speaker 1>this is what society says to So why do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a husband. Now now, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>just want that partnership to be able to experience life

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm like growing as a human being and like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just spark each other. Um And to us

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun too, it's fun at times, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's hard. Also, I mean you talk about this fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, yeah, He's like, yeah, it's fun. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell me the positives and well, the positives

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<v Speaker 1>are having a partner to um because life is about growth.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things about life, partnerships, marriages is that

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<v Speaker 1>you you will grow exponentially. But it's a struggle because

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<v Speaker 1>it digs into your most intimate, deepest insecurities, insecurities, triggers

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<v Speaker 1>and fears. Tell me, do you feel like, what other

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<v Speaker 1>way would you have grown as much? That's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't have But that's the thing you do find

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<v Speaker 1>a deeper love you have to in order to survive

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<v Speaker 1>and being a happy union, right, yeah, and deeper. So

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<v Speaker 1>if love is your journey, I do believe being in

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<v Speaker 1>the union is the best way to do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a struggle. Well, that's what you have to And

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying this over and over aga you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have the freedom to create a union that works

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<v Speaker 1>for you, constricted by necessarily the social people. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you envision for yourself. But you and your partner

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<v Speaker 1>have to be clear on what you want out of

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<v Speaker 1>that relationship and also being flexible within that and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that it's gonna change, right, Because but I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>that there has to be a purpose. That's why when

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that people get married because of their love

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<v Speaker 1>for God, I'm like, that's a good purpose, right. People

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<v Speaker 1>get married because for family. That's a good purpose because

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<v Speaker 1>along the way, you are going to need something other

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<v Speaker 1>than the two of you that is gonna have you

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<v Speaker 1>found family. Okay, so what are you looking for in

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<v Speaker 1>a woman? What's what's your idea a woman? Comments? Ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>listen up, I like a woman that's definitely a spirituality

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Fun. Yeah, so that means sense of humor, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sense of human right this weekend becauld I need that

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. I love you know, I like to crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I want a friend to like that that I can

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<v Speaker 1>share those things with. And I know I got to

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<v Speaker 1>do my part. I'm just talking about what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, but I want to grow like I learned it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as long as you got some things in

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<v Speaker 1>your listen, you know what you want, You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get everything because I'm not perfect, So neither would that

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<v Speaker 1>person be perfect? Right right, Yo, you're not gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>it all. You got that lesson, Willow, I mean just

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I got that lesson because I can't be

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<v Speaker 1>everything for one person, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you really want to be and you're really trying,

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<v Speaker 1>you get it. Do you understand like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what it feels like. Yeah, like okay, I can't expect

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<v Speaker 1>this from somebody else. This isn't realistic. No, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's how it happened for me. Hannah.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to look at my sem and go, boo,

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't everything because you ain't everything on it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta gotta wed you gotta. I had to really

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<v Speaker 1>look at what I am and what I am not. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well we're gonna bring the fishball ever figut

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<v Speaker 1>you out here? Thank you, sir. Good. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>from LaToya from Detroit, Jada, Willow and gam Have any

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<v Speaker 1>of you been to therapy? Yeah? Yeah, that's yeah. Collective

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<v Speaker 1>we've been to Yeah, couples therapy, individual therapy, any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of therapy. Yeah, we believe in therapy in this very

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>we do therapyrapy has been very very helpful, very helpful,

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<v Speaker 1>So we believe in it. Finding the right one, finding

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<v Speaker 1>the right one. A Lista from Atlanta, Willow. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>identify with Common's daughter Amy? I do? I do? Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously lives are different and your relationship with

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>her is different than everything, but I can definitely relate

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<v Speaker 1>to that feeling of like all of the success and

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<v Speaker 1>the and the touring, like what will it take for

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<v Speaker 1>me to get what I need from you? Like? Am

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I not enough? That is? That is okay? Brianna from Portland, Oregon, Common,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved you and Angela as a couple. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the two you together recently are YouTube back together. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to answer them, We'll look and I answer

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<v Speaker 1>this by saying I am dating and I have a

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<v Speaker 1>great companion and that companion could be that present. Right. Yes, nice,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much so much. I love doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you on what you all dope. This

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<v Speaker 1>was food for the song. It really was good. On

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<v Speaker 1>our next red table talk, meet a married couple and

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<v Speaker 1>their girlfriend. Thomas and I were in open relationship after

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<v Speaker 1>one year of meeting each other. Definitely, sex is part

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but it's not the first thing. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>three way relationship called a truffle. I'm not doing it

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, oh look at me because of the sex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nothing to do with it, and that's what men

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<v Speaker 1>think it is, and I hate it. Jada and Gamey,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever been interested in being in a thruffle? Hell? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm trying to stay open minded, but

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<v Speaker 1>my gut tells me this is a bunch of fracking apple.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. It's a generational show called the Red Table.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, we're gonna do this little good

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<v Speaker 1>swipe up. You want to do it? Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you do you do it? Ah, you sit right there.

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