WEBVTT - It's Time to Check your Nuts!

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Really excited for my guest today, Jesse Solomon from Summerhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm excited. Obviously we're going to talk about Summerhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>He was new last year, had a good last season.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I really wanted to talk about Jesse about

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<v Speaker 1>was the impact he had. He was very open and

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<v Speaker 1>honest about surviving testicular cancer and actually a two time

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<v Speaker 1>cancer survivor, and was very open about how he found

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<v Speaker 1>out his diagnosis when he was a younger guy, had

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<v Speaker 1>one of his testicles surgically removed, went through chemo. Even

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<v Speaker 1>during the season, you know, was taking calls publicly with

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<v Speaker 1>doctors about diagnosis and how things are going. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was really open about his fear, how scared he was

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and was just very vulnerable and open.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, he's a good looking finance guy. But those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about you know, these looking finance guys in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, they're like, you know, apples on the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a million of them, and so what sets him apart?

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<v Speaker 1>And this story really set him apart. He's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six ' five, good looking guy, a typical reality TV guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but his open book mentality and being so vulnerable is

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<v Speaker 1>really what drew us all to him and have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions about men's health things we should all

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<v Speaker 1>be doing. Is he coming back to Summerhouse and if so,

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<v Speaker 1>what's that going to look like because the gloves will

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<v Speaker 1>be off for producers and what will that storyline be?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they're in production right now, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting to talk to our guest today, Jesse Solomon.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me now is Jesse Solomon. Hey man, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for taking the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris, thank you for having me. Happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>You made your big debut on Summer House. How old

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<v Speaker 1>are you? I'm thirty one, thirty one and you made

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<v Speaker 1>your fora into reality TV. Yeah yeah, tell me that

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<v Speaker 1>thought process because you're a lot younger than me. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent a lot of time around reality TV, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious what the modern take is, like, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you grow up on and what made you think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good option for me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had a lot of different careers before

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<v Speaker 3>heading into reality TV. I only watched the Real world

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<v Speaker 3>for a few years when I was young, and that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like taught me what partying was. I think,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, but I was never a big reality TV

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<v Speaker 3>guy after that, and you know, I was working in

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<v Speaker 3>finance at the time and just kind of unfulfilled and

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<v Speaker 3>wondering if I was on the right path. And then

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<v Speaker 3>this opportunity came to me, and I think, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a digital first world these days, and I thought I

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<v Speaker 3>could do a lot of good if I had my

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<v Speaker 3>own brand and a bigger brand, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's turned out great.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm really grateful that I that I got the

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity and glad I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that kind of the thought process of this

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<v Speaker 1>could help my brand, and by the way that you

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<v Speaker 1>did great and they treated you very well and you're

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<v Speaker 1>still we'll get into your storyline and all that. But

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<v Speaker 1>what was interesting is, you know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>get into reality TV thinking this is going to be positive,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to help my brand. Oftentimes it doesn't,

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<v Speaker 1>but for you, it really has. In season one anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it felt like you were this really likable,

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<v Speaker 1>lovable guy. You know, the song of what would Jesse do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Season one to ease you into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you know, there's no guarantee that it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to turn out well, but I kind of just trusted

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<v Speaker 3>my myself. I thought it would be good to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>make new friends, obviously, go into this house and have

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<v Speaker 3>a good experience. But at the end of the day, like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's be real, you know, you're on a TV show,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A big commitment.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, not a lot of finance guys on TV

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<v Speaker 3>for a variety of reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>My family was not initially on board.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't understand, you know, the Instagram of it all

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<v Speaker 3>and all the opportunities that have come out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just figured if I could have my own platform,

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<v Speaker 3>I would be able to do things like promote November,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, give back with my time, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>been so great. I'm so blessed for all the opportunities

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<v Speaker 3>that have come out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Your storyline was very personal, and it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons I wanted to have you on because I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>much into health and especially men's health. Double testicular cancer

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<v Speaker 1>survivor and you were very open about this on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>which was awesome. Thank you were you always was that

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<v Speaker 1>your thought going into this of like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be open and honest about this. Were you apprehensive about it?

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<v Speaker 1>What were your thoughts heading in and talking to the

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<v Speaker 1>producers about how to how to work this and play this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think quite frankly, it was a big reason

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<v Speaker 3>that they wanted me to be on the show because

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't just your typical finance bro living in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>I had another layer to me, and I'd been through

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<v Speaker 3>some things and I had a different perspective on life.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to be a part of my story, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just like any typical situation where you're coming into a

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<v Speaker 3>house and meeting new people, I didn't want to like

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<v Speaker 3>rush into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the first episode, Hi, I'm Jesse, I have testicular cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Amanda's like, what's the worst thing that's ever happened to you?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, let's wait till tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I knew it was going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>part of my story, and it's something that I'm open about,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought, you know, worst case scenario, reality TV

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't go well for me, I get canceled, whatever it

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<v Speaker 3>may be.

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<v Speaker 2>At least I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Be spreading awareness that there's normal people out there who

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<v Speaker 3>have gone through cancer, they've beaten it. There's light at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the tunnel for those that are going

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<v Speaker 3>through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can rest your fears. Nobody gets canceled on

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<v Speaker 1>reality no word, never mind. It's very interesting because so

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<v Speaker 1>when people came into the show and they had something

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic to tell, it was always interesting. Of when right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor was interesting, especially it's very different than Summerhouse

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<v Speaker 1>because Bachelor it's like, Okay, I may only have two

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with this person, you know, and you're thinking, is well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to make that my first thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, if you don't tell that story

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, you may have lost that opportunity. So

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<v Speaker 1>you had to weigh that option as well. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be that guy, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be that guy eventually. To bring this

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<v Speaker 1>story up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it wasn't strategic in any way. It just is

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<v Speaker 3>really a big part of my life. It factors into

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<v Speaker 3>my previous relationships, my relationship with my family. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>my friends are so important to me because they were

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<v Speaker 3>there for me when I was in chema. So it

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<v Speaker 3>just naturally comes up. I think, you know, I try

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<v Speaker 3>not to like rush into it on a first date, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>second date, Like it's something I want people to know about.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a big part of who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're thirty one, you're healthy, young, good looking guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the world by the tail, you have the

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<v Speaker 1>world by the tale, and then boom, you have this

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<v Speaker 1>bomb dropped on you. I have testicular cancer. That is something.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was young once. I wasn't as good looking

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<v Speaker 1>as you, but I remember that feeling of invincibility when

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<v Speaker 1>that bubble is burst at a young age. What was

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<v Speaker 1>your mentality, What was that process like when you found out?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was very scary. I was twenty four at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and I'd lived a very charmed life, to

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<v Speaker 3>be quite frank, And looking back, it just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense. You know, everybody's got their own sh and

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<v Speaker 3>this was just my sh So I was so surprised

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<v Speaker 3>and scared. At the time. I was perfectly healthy. I

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<v Speaker 3>work out, I eat pretty well, and you just it

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<v Speaker 3>was just a feeling of I don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen next, and you're completely out of control. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't feel like I did anything wrong, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>unfair a bit, but I was mostly just scared. And

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<v Speaker 3>then you learn more about it and you learn that

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, one of the more treatable forms of

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<v Speaker 3>cancer if you catch it early, which is why I,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, want to help promote that message with November

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, you got to check yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>If you feel something change.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to go to your doctor, get regular checkups,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, the best form of preventing cancer is

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<v Speaker 3>early detection.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys are really bad when it comes to medical stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I you know a lot of guys listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, but especially a lot of women listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this and for your boyfriends, for your husband's we what

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<v Speaker 1>should be the message to guys, you know, especially we

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<v Speaker 1>get very particular when our junk is involved, right, We

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<v Speaker 1>get very self conscious where we are, We get embarrassed,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's you know, colon cancer, cross state, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime our junk is involved, testicles, et cetera. All of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, we just let it go. And like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff is often very preventable. How do we jump

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<v Speaker 1>on this? What can we do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that's one thing about me is I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>open almost to a fault.

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<v Speaker 2>That it was easy for me to talk about stuff related.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you always like that or did you get that way?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm just an open book. I think I've

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<v Speaker 3>always kind of been that way like things. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>not close to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Chest for better or for work.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then you're a reality producer's dream then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually it's like pulling teeth to get people to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you'll open up, that's that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely getting myself into trouble, but it'll be good TV. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>My message to men is just check yourself once a month,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when you're in the shower, whenever it is,

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<v Speaker 3>just grab your mouse, see if anything's changed.

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<v Speaker 1>And but let's be honest, we're all washing our junk.

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<v Speaker 1>You're touching yourself in the shower anyway, just give it

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<v Speaker 1>a little firm squeeze and what are we What am

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<v Speaker 1>I feeling for?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Just any regular irregularities.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get don't get too excited, not too much. Just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to see if anything's changed since the last time

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<v Speaker 3>you checked. That's really what you're looking for. And go

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<v Speaker 3>to the doctor once a year, you know, check yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>but also go to the doctor. If you feel anything

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<v Speaker 3>that's painful, go to the doctor. It's probably nothing, but

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<v Speaker 3>you'd rather be safe than sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, how did you get Did you self diagnosed and

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<v Speaker 1>go check on something, or did the doctor you know?

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<v Speaker 3>I was in New York for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 3>and hadn't gotten a physical in a while, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, let me just go get checked. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're a kid in your mom's house, she makes

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<v Speaker 3>you go to the doctor every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Goodness, So I just went and got a regular check up.

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<v Speaker 3>The doctor said, you know, I don't think this is anything,

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<v Speaker 3>but just get an ultrasound. And I completely forgot about

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<v Speaker 3>it for a few weeks. I was traveling for work

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<v Speaker 3>and I got back and I was like, I should

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<v Speaker 3>get that ultrasound done. And I did a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>testing and I thought I maybe had like an STD

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<v Speaker 3>and or it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like going to be the worst day of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>And I go back to the doctor at night and

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, so listen, you have testicular cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to have to get one of your.

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<v Speaker 3>Testicles removed, and you're probably going to need some chemo

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<v Speaker 3>and radiation and.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, where's my regular doctor and who were you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I thought I was just going to need

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<v Speaker 1>a pill penicillin shot for an STD. Man, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was scary and I didn't want to scare

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<v Speaker 3>my parents. It was just like a lot at once.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, luckily I just needed one surgery, got my

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<v Speaker 3>testicle removed, didn't need chemo at the time, monitored my

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<v Speaker 3>self by going to the doctor every six weeks after that,

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<v Speaker 3>and then a year later it's read to the lymph

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<v Speaker 3>nodes in my stomach, which you could consider like stage two,

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<v Speaker 3>and I needed four rounds of chemo. That took about

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<v Speaker 3>four months, and luckily I've been healthy ever since then

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<v Speaker 3>almost six years. I've got my six year appointment coming

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<v Speaker 3>up in September.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic, by the way, congratulations, thank you. Yeah, one day,

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<v Speaker 1>one year at a time. Right, Yeah, How did that

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<v Speaker 1>change your philosophy on life and your perspective, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>we've all been in that position where we're young, we're fit,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing our thing. Success is kind of coming quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and you're on that rise, and then you have this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of change of course, and this change of life.

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<v Speaker 1>What did that do to you philosophically, emotionally, mentally.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you learned to really appreciate your family first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 3>and your friends that are there for you and aren't

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<v Speaker 3>just there to do the fun stuff with you, but

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<v Speaker 3>to help you the hard times. You know you're on

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<v Speaker 3>your ass and who's there to pick you up or

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<v Speaker 3>is your dad and your brother? And that really meant

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. I think it's really hard for me now

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<v Speaker 3>to care about pretty much anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't sweat the small stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when I find myself feeling like fomo over something

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<v Speaker 3>or yeah, just things that aren't like big deals, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I just let it roll off my back. So and

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<v Speaker 3>it's really put things into perspective, like I enjoy the

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<v Speaker 3>small stuff now, whereas like I'm just happy to be alive,

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<v Speaker 3>as corny as that is. Like I go for a

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<v Speaker 3>morning walk and get a coffee and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is awesome. So it's really one of the better

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<v Speaker 3>things that's ever happened to me, and I'm grateful for

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<v Speaker 3>the experience. I just wish it didn't have to happen

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<v Speaker 3>for me to feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>Has it been a problem with women like having that conversation. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>you said on the second date or third day, whenever

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<v Speaker 1>you start feeling some sort of a connection, you have

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<v Speaker 1>that talk. Has it been and obviously that's something someone

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't want to be with anyway if it was

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<v Speaker 1>an issue. But has it ever been an issue where

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<v Speaker 1>that ends a relationship or causes a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>No? Never once.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, girls aren't like really doing a deep dive

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<v Speaker 3>on your nuts if they're ever down there, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say they're quite unsightly as it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, you nailed it.

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<v Speaker 3>If a girl had a problem with that, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>somebody that I want to be with anyways, And I

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<v Speaker 3>think usually it's it is a positive that I've been

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<v Speaker 3>through something and I have such a good attitude about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe girls don't want to procreate with a guy

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<v Speaker 3>who has answer in his genes. But you know, anything

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<v Speaker 3>could happen to anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you single now?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because you didn't hook up with anybody at Summerhouse?

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<v Speaker 2>Well or did you?

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<v Speaker 3>This is yeah, I mean that last season I was

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<v Speaker 3>a single guy. Yeah, I just started seeing someone and

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm not single, is the short answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, is this person in the house are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to see a love story for.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Chris?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing, because here, here's here's my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>As a producer, what worried me was you had testicular cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it

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<v Speaker 1>saved you, right Like, as a producer, I can't attack you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't make Jesse look bad. The dude has he's

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<v Speaker 1>had cancer twice and so, uh, cancer survivor. That gives

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<v Speaker 1>you that ride on season one. Season two is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be interesting. We're going to get to probably see

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<v Speaker 1>a different side of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, No, I'm definitely involved in a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>BS this summer and it's not BS, but it's it's drama.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're you're definitely gonna want to tune in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the first season you're not you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>close relationships with people, so you can't really get involved

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<v Speaker 3>in deeper conversations. But now these are like my close friends,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's easier for me to give my opinion. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess look at that smile on his face, Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse is in love something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's just a lot to date in a in

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<v Speaker 3>this environment. That's I'll leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Meeting on TV or just in this modern age.

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<v Speaker 3>Both, but I was referring to TV. Yeah, there's just

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of uh pressure, and I'm my rule of

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<v Speaker 3>thumb is just do exactly what you would do not

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<v Speaker 3>on TV, and be genuine and be yourself and hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>that comes through. And I know I'm a good person

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully other people think so. But if not, my

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<v Speaker 3>family and friends know it, and that's all I could

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<v Speaker 3>ask for.

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<v Speaker 1>You're happy, and that's right there. That's the most important thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully that will continue. But by the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>best teas ever for Summerhouse is we get to watch

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse find love and continue this story. That's a great tease. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>This should be everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, the Summerhouse doesn't air until like February, so.

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<v Speaker 1>So anything can happen. You might be married by.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, yeah, definitely. No, No, I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>A Summerhouse wedding. Come on, I know a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>is ordained and can do weddings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm ordained.

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<v Speaker 1>I can get out the Summerhouse quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever done a wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done about fifteen weddings. Yeah, back when you were

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, I did this other reality show that was

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<v Speaker 1>about love, and we did a bunch of weddings on

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<v Speaker 1>TV and I officiated. It got to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>so we would do these weddings, and in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>we would kind of get these if they had somebody

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<v Speaker 1>special in their life, they would come in and officiate

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding, but a lot of times they didn't, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we would get these kind of rent a priest

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<v Speaker 1>and they would come in and it was very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>because they weren't very TV savvy and we were doing

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<v Speaker 1>a live TV show or trying to tape something. So

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<v Speaker 1>eventually they were like, well, you guys know and love Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>He'll officiate your wedding and host. So I would host

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<v Speaker 1>the show and then go up and officiate the wedding

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<v Speaker 1>and then go back to hosting the show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is before the Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>Those during the Bachelor, I officiated weddings of Bachelor couples,

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor and Paradise. I did a couple weddings done in Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>In Paradise. We would kick off seasons times with the wedding. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a bunch of weddings.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your success right.

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor wise, it's getting worse the more and more time

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<v Speaker 1>goes by, the more and more people get divorced. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably you know what, I have to go back. Luckily,

0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:18.439
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of weddings and couples in the

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<v Speaker 1>private sector. They've all stayed together. So my you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my track record in the private sector much stronger than

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<v Speaker 1>on TV, because I definitely do have a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>divorces now on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're telling me it's difficult on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, TV is you know, it's funny. You watch like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the you know, Housewives of all the Housewives

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff, and it is difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to many of the housewives and like it's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's made any of our relationships stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very difficult thing to navigate. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>be very careful that you have to be phenomenal at communicating,

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<v Speaker 1>and often we're not great at that, you know, that's

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>usually our weakest link. But it sounds like you're a

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<v Speaker 1>great communicator.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm learning that I'm not as good as I thought.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very open. I just need to be open with

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<v Speaker 3>the right people at the right times.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. What is that's very cryptic? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>You like?

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's an interesting self realization about yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you just need to communicate with your partner and

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<v Speaker 3>not other people about the world Warner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, that's interesting. So you've always been very forthright

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:29.040
<v Speaker 1>with your feelings, an open book, but when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to love and dating someone is like, you've really got

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<v Speaker 1>to bear your soul to her and be open and

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<v Speaker 1>honest with her in a personal, kind of intimate way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't been in a relationship in a while, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not perfect. I'm definitely still learning. But have you

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<v Speaker 3>been watching Love Island.

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<v Speaker 1>On and off?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I watch I'm not a I don't really watch a

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.359
<v Speaker 1>ton of those shows, but I watch everything a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit because I like to know what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the business and in the world, because I'm a big

0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.959
<v Speaker 1>TV producer at heart, and I love TV and I

0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>like to see what people are doing. And it's funny

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to watch a lot of my young producers that worked

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<v Speaker 1>on the show have gone off to all these other shows,

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<v Speaker 1>and photographers and directors and all that and I love

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.520
<v Speaker 1>watching their success and watching how stuff is done because

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, even like a show like Summerhouse. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean this in a bad way for the producers,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've all borrowed things from other shows, and you

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.400
<v Speaker 1>make it apply to your show and then you put

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<v Speaker 1>your little thumbprint on it to make it a little different.

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I find it fascinating to watch like Love Island,

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Love is Blind, all those shows do you watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched like the first seven or eight episodes of

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Love Island just because it blew up and I wanted

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 3>to know what was going on as well. I think

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 3>they have an incredible formula, like the fact that they

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 3>can just pump out episodes so quickly.

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Pump out so many episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the following that these people are getting post show, like,

0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:03.639
<v Speaker 3>it's really an incredible formula for reality TV. And I'm impressed.

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's what you know, It's what The Bachelor used

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to be. But The Bachelor is also and is so

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>antiquated in the way it shot, way how much money

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.679
<v Speaker 1>it costs. It's very expensive, and so they've had to

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 1>cut back. They've cut back on the production, the days,

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the people, so the show is hurting on many levels,

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>including production, and then you have a show like Love Island.

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<v Speaker 1>They have gone the opposite side of the spectrum of

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>very cheap crank these episodes out, get people in and out,

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.159
<v Speaker 1>and so production is tighter, and so it's you know,

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and The Bachelor just because of what it was back

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago, you can't do that, you know, you

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 1>can't just change or else you're not that show. So

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of a victim of their own success. So

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it is fascinating to watch all these shows and summerhow

0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.160
<v Speaker 1>same thing. It's like you get everybody in there, it's

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>like you can crank these out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well there's five months between when filming wraps and

0:23:58.280 --> 0:23:59.679
<v Speaker 3>when the first episode there is.

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of wild.

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it really takes a while, and they're moving as

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<v Speaker 3>quick as they can.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that. So it's a different, different formula.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a difficult thing to do. Like I remember on

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<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor that one of the toughest things was that

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<v Speaker 1>break from show rapping to show airs because of relationships mainly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how long is that on The Bachelor, like because

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<v Speaker 3>they really keep it quiet, but with us, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>five months and it's your real life, it's like very difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it's you know the Bachelor was It depends

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<v Speaker 1>on you know. What we used to do is a

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<v Speaker 1>Baucher in the fall. You would wrap up right before

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas break or really around Thanksgiving, and then it would

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<v Speaker 1>air in January. So what you had like a month

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<v Speaker 1>and a half to two months. Not crazy, but when

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<v Speaker 1>a couple just you know, when the whole show's about

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<v Speaker 1>getting engaged and they're happily engaged, and it's like, stop,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't talk to my parents, I can't talk to

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<v Speaker 1>my friends. I can't it's tough to foster that relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't really talk about it and live it like

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<v Speaker 1>you normally would, so you kind of, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you put a lid on it for a second

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<v Speaker 1>and then you got to like lift that lid off,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like the whole world knows. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult thing to figure out. If we had a

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<v Speaker 1>tough time navigating that early on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, interesting. Well, I will say that the producers that

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<v Speaker 3>we work with truly and they've been incredible to me,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when I was going through the cancer stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, it is amazing to create these relationships through

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. I love to hear it. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one other side note about your cancer diagnosis

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<v Speaker 1>and all that you got a call that you took

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<v Speaker 1>during the show you probably thought, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you knew ahead of time, but I love

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you just exposed all that and you

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<v Speaker 1>showed you know, getting the call and getting the diagnosis

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that stuff is great to see. I

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<v Speaker 1>think guys especially need more of that that it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to embrace that, don't shy away from those medical issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's amazing how many messages I get from people

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<v Speaker 3>saying I went through the same thing. Seeing you scared

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<v Speaker 3>about your appointment really hit home for me. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>seeing somebody get through it makes me feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>can get through it, like there's light at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the tunnel. People are like I thought I was

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<v Speaker 3>helping people just physically, but the emotional side of things

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<v Speaker 3>and being scared to talk about cancer the way people

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<v Speaker 3>have said they're able to open up about it after

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 3>me being so open, like it's really shocking, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just really glad that I was open about it because

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<v Speaker 3>it's a power of mind to be able to share

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<v Speaker 3>my story and not be self conscious about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad that it's able to help other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I for one, really appreciate that you did and

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<v Speaker 1>that you continue to do so. If nothing else comes

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<v Speaker 1>of this crazy show and your appearance on the Summerhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>that's enough. Like that was a great mark to leave

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<v Speaker 1>and a wonderful legacy to be known for. So appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate your time and Jesse, we'll look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to your next season. I know it's a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>we got to know and love you on season one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's not season one, but your first season, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see you next season on Summerhouse as well. That'll

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.880
<v Speaker 1>be next spring on Bravo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, thank you so much for having me. Make sure

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<v Speaker 3>to check out November dot com and to grow a

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<v Speaker 3>mustache in November. Do whatever you can to support.

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<v Speaker 1>It's creepy, it's weird, but it's worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It just spreads awareness and it's a good way to

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<v Speaker 3>raise money for a good cause.

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<v Speaker 1>And real quick before we go, because it is a

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<v Speaker 1>good cause. People talk about November all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if a lot of people even know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's just like, oh, you're growing facial hair.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if people really know what the

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<v Speaker 1>cause is. And it is about cancer, and it's about

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<v Speaker 1>using awareness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for men's health, you know, mental health, prostate cancer

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<v Speaker 3>to sticular cancer, suicide.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just good.

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<v Speaker 3>That we talk about these things because if people are

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<v Speaker 3>aware that there's resources to help them and there's people

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<v Speaker 3>that are going through something similar, you know, we can

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<v Speaker 3>help save lives.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm all for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, damn good to meet you, man. Really had heard

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<v Speaker 1>amazing things about you, and after talking to you, I

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<v Speaker 1>see why everybody loves you.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Really a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, thanks for having me. Great to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Jesse, Take care, take care, Thanks for listening. Follow

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<v Speaker 1>us on Instagram at the most Dramatic pod ever and

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<v Speaker 1>five stars. I'll talk to you next time.