Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1: Really excited for my guest today, Jesse Solomon from Summerhouse,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited. Obviously we're going to talk about Summerhouse.
Speaker 1: He was new last year, had a good last season.
Speaker 1: But what I really wanted to talk about Jesse about
Speaker 1: was the impact he had. He was very open and
Speaker 1: honest about surviving testicular cancer and actually a two time
Speaker 1: cancer survivor, and was very open about how he found
Speaker 1: out his diagnosis when he was a younger guy, had
Speaker 1: one of his testicles surgically removed, went through chemo. Even
Speaker 1: during the season, you know, was taking calls publicly with
Speaker 1: doctors about diagnosis and how things are going. And he
Speaker 1: was really open about his fear, how scared he was
Speaker 1: at the time, and was just very vulnerable and open.
Speaker 1: And look, he's a good looking finance guy. But those guys.
Speaker 1: The thing about you know, these looking finance guys in
Speaker 1: New York, they're like, you know, apples on the tree.
Speaker 1: There's a million of them, and so what sets him apart?
Speaker 1: And this story really set him apart. He's you know,
Speaker 1: six ' five, good looking guy, a typical reality TV guy,
Speaker 1: but his open book mentality and being so vulnerable is
Speaker 1: really what drew us all to him and have a
Speaker 1: lot of questions about men's health things we should all
Speaker 1: be doing. Is he coming back to Summerhouse and if so,
Speaker 1: what's that going to look like because the gloves will
Speaker 1: be off for producers and what will that storyline be?
Speaker 1: And I think they're in production right now, so we'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to talk to our guest today, Jesse Solomon.
Speaker 1: Joining me now is Jesse Solomon. Hey man, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for taking the time.
Speaker 2: Chris, thank you for having me. Happy to be here.
Speaker 1: You made your big debut on Summer House. How old
Speaker 1: are you? I'm thirty one, thirty one and you made
Speaker 1: your fora into reality TV. Yeah yeah, tell me that
Speaker 1: thought process because you're a lot younger than me. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time around reality TV, but
Speaker 1: I'm just curious what the modern take is, like, what
Speaker 1: did you grow up on and what made you think
Speaker 1: this is a good option for me.
Speaker 3: You know, I had a lot of different careers before
Speaker 3: heading into reality TV. I only watched the Real world
Speaker 3: for a few years when I was young, and that
Speaker 3: kind of like taught me what partying was. I think,
Speaker 3: all right, but I was never a big reality TV
Speaker 3: guy after that, and you know, I was working in
Speaker 3: finance at the time and just kind of unfulfilled and
Speaker 3: wondering if I was on the right path. And then
Speaker 3: this opportunity came to me, and I think, it's just
Speaker 3: a digital first world these days, and I thought I
Speaker 3: could do a lot of good if I had my
Speaker 3: own brand and a bigger brand, and.
Speaker 2: It's it's turned out great.
Speaker 3: So I'm really grateful that I that I got the
Speaker 3: opportunity and glad I did.
Speaker 1: It was that kind of the thought process of this
Speaker 1: could help my brand, and by the way that you
Speaker 1: did great and they treated you very well and you're
Speaker 1: still we'll get into your storyline and all that. But
Speaker 1: what was interesting is, you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: get into reality TV thinking this is going to be positive,
Speaker 1: this is going to help my brand. Oftentimes it doesn't,
Speaker 1: but for you, it really has. In season one anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, it felt like you were this really likable,
Speaker 1: lovable guy. You know, the song of what would Jesse do?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Season one to ease you into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, there's no guarantee that it's going
Speaker 3: to turn out well, but I kind of just trusted
Speaker 3: my myself. I thought it would be good to you know,
Speaker 3: make new friends, obviously, go into this house and have
Speaker 3: a good experience. But at the end of the day, like,
Speaker 3: let's be real, you know, you're on a TV show,
Speaker 3: so it's.
Speaker 2: A big commitment.
Speaker 3: You know, not a lot of finance guys on TV
Speaker 3: for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 2: My family was not initially on board.
Speaker 3: They don't understand, you know, the Instagram of it all
Speaker 3: and all the opportunities that have come out of it.
Speaker 3: But I just figured if I could have my own platform,
Speaker 3: I would be able to do things like promote November,
Speaker 3: you know, give back with my time, and it's it's
Speaker 3: been so great. I'm so blessed for all the opportunities
Speaker 3: that have come out of it.
Speaker 1: Your storyline was very personal, and it's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons I wanted to have you on because I'm very
Speaker 1: much into health and especially men's health. Double testicular cancer
Speaker 1: survivor and you were very open about this on the show,
Speaker 1: which was awesome. Thank you were you always was that
Speaker 1: your thought going into this of like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be open and honest about this. Were you apprehensive about it?
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts heading in and talking to the
Speaker 1: producers about how to how to work this and play this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think quite frankly, it was a big reason
Speaker 3: that they wanted me to be on the show because
Speaker 3: I wasn't just your typical finance bro living in New York.
Speaker 3: I had another layer to me, and I'd been through
Speaker 3: some things and I had a different perspective on life.
Speaker 2: I knew it was.
Speaker 3: Going to be a part of my story, and you know,
Speaker 3: just like any typical situation where you're coming into a
Speaker 3: house and meeting new people, I didn't want to like
Speaker 3: rush into it.
Speaker 1: Like the first episode, Hi, I'm Jesse, I have testicular cancer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Amanda's like, what's the worst thing that's ever happened to you?
Speaker 3: And I was like, let's wait till tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I knew it was going to be a
Speaker 3: part of my story, and it's something that I'm open about,
Speaker 3: and I thought, you know, worst case scenario, reality TV
Speaker 3: doesn't go well for me, I get canceled, whatever it
Speaker 3: may be.
Speaker 2: At least I'll.
Speaker 3: Be spreading awareness that there's normal people out there who
Speaker 3: have gone through cancer, they've beaten it. There's light at
Speaker 3: the end of the tunnel for those that are going
Speaker 3: through it.
Speaker 1: Well, I can rest your fears. Nobody gets canceled on
Speaker 1: reality no word, never mind. It's very interesting because so
Speaker 1: when people came into the show and they had something
Speaker 1: dramatic to tell, it was always interesting. Of when right,
Speaker 1: the Bachelor was interesting, especially it's very different than Summerhouse
Speaker 1: because Bachelor it's like, Okay, I may only have two
Speaker 1: conversations with this person, you know, and you're thinking, is well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to make that my first thing. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, if you don't tell that story
Speaker 1: at some point, you may have lost that opportunity. So
Speaker 1: you had to weigh that option as well. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be that guy, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: I want to be that guy eventually. To bring this
Speaker 1: story up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't strategic in any way. It just is
Speaker 3: really a big part of my life. It factors into
Speaker 3: my previous relationships, my relationship with my family. You know,
Speaker 3: my friends are so important to me because they were
Speaker 3: there for me when I was in chema. So it
Speaker 3: just naturally comes up. I think, you know, I try
Speaker 3: not to like rush into it on a first date, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: second date, Like it's something I want people to know about.
Speaker 3: It's it's a big part of who I am.
Speaker 1: Well, you're thirty one, you're healthy, young, good looking guy,
Speaker 1: you have the world by the tail, you have the
Speaker 1: world by the tale, and then boom, you have this
Speaker 1: bomb dropped on you. I have testicular cancer. That is something.
Speaker 1: And I was young once. I wasn't as good looking
Speaker 1: as you, but I remember that feeling of invincibility when
Speaker 1: that bubble is burst at a young age. What was
Speaker 1: your mentality, What was that process like when you found out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very scary. I was twenty four at
Speaker 3: the time, and I'd lived a very charmed life, to
Speaker 3: be quite frank, And looking back, it just kind of
Speaker 3: makes sense. You know, everybody's got their own sh and
Speaker 3: this was just my sh So I was so surprised
Speaker 3: and scared. At the time. I was perfectly healthy. I
Speaker 3: work out, I eat pretty well, and you just it
Speaker 3: was just a feeling of I don't know what's going
Speaker 3: to happen next, and you're completely out of control. I
Speaker 3: didn't feel like I did anything wrong, and it was
Speaker 3: unfair a bit, but I was mostly just scared. And
Speaker 3: then you learn more about it and you learn that
Speaker 3: it's you know, one of the more treatable forms of
Speaker 3: cancer if you catch it early, which is why I,
Speaker 3: you know, want to help promote that message with November
Speaker 3: that you know, you got to check yourself.
Speaker 2: If you feel something change.
Speaker 3: You got to go to your doctor, get regular checkups,
Speaker 3: because you know, the best form of preventing cancer is
Speaker 3: early detection.
Speaker 1: Guys are really bad when it comes to medical stuff.
Speaker 1: And I you know a lot of guys listen to
Speaker 1: this podcast, but especially a lot of women listen to
Speaker 1: this and for your boyfriends, for your husband's we what
Speaker 1: should be the message to guys, you know, especially we
Speaker 1: get very particular when our junk is involved, right, We
Speaker 1: get very self conscious where we are, We get embarrassed,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, colon cancer, cross state, you know,
Speaker 1: anytime our junk is involved, testicles, et cetera. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, we just let it go. And like you said,
Speaker 1: this stuff is often very preventable. How do we jump
Speaker 1: on this? What can we do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's one thing about me is I'm so
Speaker 3: open almost to a fault.
Speaker 2: That it was easy for me to talk about stuff related.
Speaker 1: Were you always like that or did you get that way?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think I'm just an open book. I think I've
Speaker 3: always kind of been that way like things. I'm just
Speaker 3: not close to the.
Speaker 2: Chest for better or for work.
Speaker 1: Well, then you're a reality producer's dream then.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Usually it's like pulling teeth to get people to talk.
Speaker 1: So if you'll open up, that's that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely getting myself into trouble, but it'll be good TV. Yeah.
Speaker 3: My message to men is just check yourself once a month,
Speaker 3: you know, when you're in the shower, whenever it is,
Speaker 3: just grab your mouse, see if anything's changed.
Speaker 1: And but let's be honest, we're all washing our junk.
Speaker 1: You're touching yourself in the shower anyway, just give it
Speaker 1: a little firm squeeze and what are we What am
Speaker 1: I feeling for?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Just any regular irregularities.
Speaker 2: Don't get don't get too excited, not too much. Just
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Want to see if anything's changed since the last time
Speaker 3: you checked. That's really what you're looking for. And go
Speaker 3: to the doctor once a year, you know, check yourself,
Speaker 3: but also go to the doctor. If you feel anything
Speaker 3: that's painful, go to the doctor. It's probably nothing, but
Speaker 3: you'd rather be safe than sorry.
Speaker 1: Obviously, how did you get Did you self diagnosed and
Speaker 1: go check on something, or did the doctor you know?
Speaker 3: I was in New York for a couple of years
Speaker 3: and hadn't gotten a physical in a while, and I
Speaker 3: was like, let me just go get checked. You know,
Speaker 3: when you're a kid in your mom's house, she makes
Speaker 3: you go to the doctor every year.
Speaker 2: Goodness, So I just went and got a regular check up.
Speaker 3: The doctor said, you know, I don't think this is anything,
Speaker 3: but just get an ultrasound. And I completely forgot about
Speaker 3: it for a few weeks. I was traveling for work
Speaker 3: and I got back and I was like, I should
Speaker 3: get that ultrasound done. And I did a bunch of
Speaker 3: testing and I thought I maybe had like an STD
Speaker 3: and or it was.
Speaker 2: Like going to be the worst day of my life.
Speaker 3: And I go back to the doctor at night and
Speaker 3: he's like, so listen, you have testicular cancer.
Speaker 2: You're going to have to get one of your.
Speaker 3: Testicles removed, and you're probably going to need some chemo
Speaker 3: and radiation and.
Speaker 2: I was like, where's my regular doctor and who were you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I thought I was just going to need
Speaker 1: a pill penicillin shot for an STD. Man, this is
Speaker 1: a whole different direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it was scary and I didn't want to scare
Speaker 3: my parents. It was just like a lot at once.
Speaker 3: But yeah, luckily I just needed one surgery, got my
Speaker 3: testicle removed, didn't need chemo at the time, monitored my
Speaker 3: self by going to the doctor every six weeks after that,
Speaker 3: and then a year later it's read to the lymph
Speaker 3: nodes in my stomach, which you could consider like stage two,
Speaker 3: and I needed four rounds of chemo. That took about
Speaker 3: four months, and luckily I've been healthy ever since then
Speaker 3: almost six years. I've got my six year appointment coming
Speaker 3: up in September.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic, by the way, congratulations, thank you. Yeah, one day,
Speaker 1: one year at a time. Right, Yeah, How did that
Speaker 1: change your philosophy on life and your perspective, because again,
Speaker 1: we've all been in that position where we're young, we're fit,
Speaker 1: we're doing our thing. Success is kind of coming quickly
Speaker 1: and you're on that rise, and then you have this
Speaker 1: kind of change of course, and this change of life.
Speaker 1: What did that do to you philosophically, emotionally, mentally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you learned to really appreciate your family first and foremost,
Speaker 3: and your friends that are there for you and aren't
Speaker 3: just there to do the fun stuff with you, but
Speaker 3: to help you the hard times. You know you're on
Speaker 3: your ass and who's there to pick you up or
Speaker 3: is your dad and your brother? And that really meant
Speaker 3: a lot. I think it's really hard for me now
Speaker 3: to care about pretty much anything.
Speaker 1: You don't sweat the small stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I find myself feeling like fomo over something
Speaker 3: or yeah, just things that aren't like big deals, honestly,
Speaker 3: I just let it roll off my back. So and
Speaker 3: it's really put things into perspective, like I enjoy the
Speaker 3: small stuff now, whereas like I'm just happy to be alive,
Speaker 3: as corny as that is. Like I go for a
Speaker 3: morning walk and get a coffee and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: this is awesome. So it's really one of the better
Speaker 3: things that's ever happened to me, and I'm grateful for
Speaker 3: the experience. I just wish it didn't have to happen
Speaker 3: for me to feel it.
Speaker 1: Has it been a problem with women like having that conversation. Eventually,
Speaker 1: you said on the second date or third day, whenever
Speaker 1: you start feeling some sort of a connection, you have
Speaker 1: that talk. Has it been and obviously that's something someone
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to be with anyway if it was
Speaker 1: an issue. But has it ever been an issue where
Speaker 1: that ends a relationship or causes a problem.
Speaker 2: No? Never once.
Speaker 3: I mean, girls aren't like really doing a deep dive
Speaker 3: on your nuts if they're ever down there, so.
Speaker 1: I would say they're quite unsightly as it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, you nailed it.
Speaker 3: If a girl had a problem with that, it's not
Speaker 3: somebody that I want to be with anyways, And I
Speaker 3: think usually it's it is a positive that I've been
Speaker 3: through something and I have such a good attitude about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe girls don't want to procreate with a guy
Speaker 3: who has answer in his genes. But you know, anything
Speaker 3: could happen to anyone.
Speaker 1: Are you single now?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, because you didn't hook up with anybody at Summerhouse?
Speaker 2: Well or did you?
Speaker 3: This is yeah, I mean that last season I was
Speaker 3: a single guy. Yeah, I just started seeing someone and
Speaker 3: so I'm not single, is the short answer.
Speaker 1: Okay, is this person in the house are we going
Speaker 1: to get to see a love story for.
Speaker 2: You, Chris?
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you that.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, because here, here's here's my thing.
Speaker 1: As a producer, what worried me was you had testicular cancer.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it
Speaker 1: saved you, right Like, as a producer, I can't attack you.
Speaker 1: I can't make Jesse look bad. The dude has he's
Speaker 1: had cancer twice and so, uh, cancer survivor. That gives
Speaker 1: you that ride on season one. Season two is going
Speaker 1: to be interesting. We're going to get to probably see
Speaker 1: a different side of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, I'm definitely involved in a lot of
Speaker 3: BS this summer and it's not BS, but it's it's drama.
Speaker 3: So you're you're definitely gonna want to tune in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean the first season you're not you don't have
Speaker 3: close relationships with people, so you can't really get involved
Speaker 3: in deeper conversations. But now these are like my close friends,
Speaker 3: so it's easier for me to give my opinion. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 1: I guess look at that smile on his face, Guys,
Speaker 1: Jesse is in love something like that.
Speaker 3: It's it's just a lot to date in a in
Speaker 3: this environment. That's I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1: Meeting on TV or just in this modern age.
Speaker 3: Both, but I was referring to TV. Yeah, there's just
Speaker 3: a lot of uh pressure, and I'm my rule of
Speaker 3: thumb is just do exactly what you would do not
Speaker 3: on TV, and be genuine and be yourself and hopefully
Speaker 3: that comes through. And I know I'm a good person
Speaker 3: and hopefully other people think so. But if not, my
Speaker 3: family and friends know it, and that's all I could
Speaker 3: ask for.
Speaker 1: You're happy, and that's right there. That's the most important thing,
Speaker 1: and hopefully that will continue. But by the way, the
Speaker 1: best teas ever for Summerhouse is we get to watch
Speaker 1: Jesse find love and continue this story. That's a great tease. Man,
Speaker 1: This should be everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the Summerhouse doesn't air until like February, so.
Speaker 1: So anything can happen. You might be married by.
Speaker 2: Then, yeah, definitely. No, No, I won't.
Speaker 1: A Summerhouse wedding. Come on, I know a guy that
Speaker 1: is ordained and can do weddings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ordained.
Speaker 1: I can get out the Summerhouse quick.
Speaker 2: Have you ever done a wedding.
Speaker 1: I've done about fifteen weddings. Yeah, back when you were
Speaker 1: a kid, I did this other reality show that was
Speaker 1: about love, and we did a bunch of weddings on
Speaker 1: TV and I officiated. It got to the point where
Speaker 1: so we would do these weddings, and in the beginning,
Speaker 1: we would kind of get these if they had somebody
Speaker 1: special in their life, they would come in and officiate
Speaker 1: the wedding, but a lot of times they didn't, and
Speaker 1: so we would get these kind of rent a priest
Speaker 1: and they would come in and it was very difficult
Speaker 1: because they weren't very TV savvy and we were doing
Speaker 1: a live TV show or trying to tape something. So
Speaker 1: eventually they were like, well, you guys know and love Chris,
Speaker 1: He'll officiate your wedding and host. So I would host
Speaker 1: the show and then go up and officiate the wedding
Speaker 1: and then go back to hosting the show.
Speaker 2: This is before the Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Those during the Bachelor, I officiated weddings of Bachelor couples,
Speaker 1: Bachelor and Paradise. I did a couple weddings done in Bachelor.
Speaker 1: In Paradise. We would kick off seasons times with the wedding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did a bunch of weddings.
Speaker 2: What's your success right.
Speaker 1: Bachelor wise, it's getting worse the more and more time
Speaker 1: goes by, the more and more people get divorced. I'm
Speaker 1: probably you know what, I have to go back. Luckily,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of weddings and couples in the
Speaker 1: private sector. They've all stayed together. So my you know,
Speaker 1: my track record in the private sector much stronger than
Speaker 1: on TV, because I definitely do have a couple of
Speaker 1: divorces now on TV.
Speaker 2: So you're telling me it's difficult on TV.
Speaker 1: You know, TV is you know, it's funny. You watch like,
Speaker 1: you know, the you know, Housewives of all the Housewives
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and it is difficult.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I've talked to many of the housewives and like it's
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's made any of our relationships stronger.
Speaker 1: It's a very difficult thing to navigate. You have to
Speaker 1: be very careful that you have to be phenomenal at communicating,
Speaker 1: and often we're not great at that, you know, that's
Speaker 1: usually our weakest link. But it sounds like you're a
Speaker 1: great communicator.
Speaker 3: I'm learning that I'm not as good as I thought.
Speaker 3: I'm very open. I just need to be open with
Speaker 3: the right people at the right times.
Speaker 1: Interesting. What is that's very cryptic? What does that mean?
Speaker 2: You like?
Speaker 1: That's it. That's an interesting self realization about yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just need to communicate with your partner and
Speaker 3: not other people about the world Warner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that's interesting. So you've always been very forthright
Speaker 1: with your feelings, an open book, but when it comes
Speaker 1: to love and dating someone is like, you've really got
Speaker 1: to bear your soul to her and be open and
Speaker 1: honest with her in a personal, kind of intimate way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I haven't been in a relationship in a while, so
Speaker 3: I'm not perfect. I'm definitely still learning. But have you
Speaker 3: been watching Love Island.
Speaker 1: On and off?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I watch I'm not a I don't really watch a
Speaker 1: ton of those shows, but I watch everything a little
Speaker 1: bit because I like to know what's going on in
Speaker 1: the business and in the world, because I'm a big
Speaker 1: TV producer at heart, and I love TV and I
Speaker 1: like to see what people are doing. And it's funny
Speaker 1: to watch a lot of my young producers that worked
Speaker 1: on the show have gone off to all these other shows,
Speaker 1: and photographers and directors and all that and I love
Speaker 1: watching their success and watching how stuff is done because
Speaker 1: if you know, even like a show like Summerhouse. And
Speaker 1: I don't mean this in a bad way for the producers,
Speaker 1: but we've all borrowed things from other shows, and you
Speaker 1: make it apply to your show and then you put
Speaker 1: your little thumbprint on it to make it a little different.
Speaker 1: And so I find it fascinating to watch like Love Island,
Speaker 1: Love is Blind, all those shows do you watch.
Speaker 3: I watched like the first seven or eight episodes of
Speaker 3: Love Island just because it blew up and I wanted
Speaker 3: to know what was going on as well. I think
Speaker 3: they have an incredible formula, like the fact that they
Speaker 3: can just pump out episodes so quickly.
Speaker 2: Pump out so many episodes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the following that these people are getting post show, like,
Speaker 3: it's really an incredible formula for reality TV. And I'm impressed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what you know, It's what The Bachelor used
Speaker 1: to be. But The Bachelor is also and is so
Speaker 1: antiquated in the way it shot, way how much money
Speaker 1: it costs. It's very expensive, and so they've had to
Speaker 1: cut back. They've cut back on the production, the days,
Speaker 1: the people, so the show is hurting on many levels,
Speaker 1: including production, and then you have a show like Love Island.
Speaker 1: They have gone the opposite side of the spectrum of
Speaker 1: very cheap crank these episodes out, get people in and out,
Speaker 1: and so production is tighter, and so it's you know,
Speaker 1: and The Bachelor just because of what it was back
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, you can't do that, you know, you
Speaker 1: can't just change or else you're not that show. So
Speaker 1: they're kind of a victim of their own success. So
Speaker 1: it is fascinating to watch all these shows and summerhow
Speaker 1: same thing. It's like you get everybody in there, it's
Speaker 1: like you can crank these out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there's five months between when filming wraps and
Speaker 3: when the first episode there is.
Speaker 2: It's kind of wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really takes a while, and they're moving as
Speaker 3: quick as they can.
Speaker 2: I know that. So it's a different, different formula.
Speaker 1: It's a difficult thing to do. Like I remember on
Speaker 1: The Bachelor that one of the toughest things was that
Speaker 1: break from show rapping to show airs because of relationships mainly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how long is that on The Bachelor, like because
Speaker 3: they really keep it quiet, but with us, it's like
Speaker 3: five months and it's your real life, it's like very difficult.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's you know the Bachelor was It depends
Speaker 1: on you know. What we used to do is a
Speaker 1: Baucher in the fall. You would wrap up right before
Speaker 1: Christmas break or really around Thanksgiving, and then it would
Speaker 1: air in January. So what you had like a month
Speaker 1: and a half to two months. Not crazy, but when
Speaker 1: a couple just you know, when the whole show's about
Speaker 1: getting engaged and they're happily engaged, and it's like, stop,
Speaker 1: I can't talk to my parents, I can't talk to
Speaker 1: my friends. I can't it's tough to foster that relationship.
Speaker 1: You can't really talk about it and live it like
Speaker 1: you normally would, so you kind of, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like you put a lid on it for a second
Speaker 1: and then you got to like lift that lid off,
Speaker 1: and it's like the whole world knows. And so that's
Speaker 1: a difficult thing to figure out. If we had a
Speaker 1: tough time navigating that early on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting. Well, I will say that the producers that
Speaker 3: we work with truly and they've been incredible to me,
Speaker 3: especially when I was going through the cancer stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so yeah, it is amazing to create these relationships through
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 1: That's good. I love to hear it. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you know, one other side note about your cancer diagnosis
Speaker 1: and all that you got a call that you took
Speaker 1: during the show you probably thought, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you knew ahead of time, but I love
Speaker 1: the fact that you just exposed all that and you
Speaker 1: showed you know, getting the call and getting the diagnosis
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff is great to see. I
Speaker 1: think guys especially need more of that that it's okay
Speaker 1: to embrace that, don't shy away from those medical issues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing how many messages I get from people
Speaker 3: saying I went through the same thing. Seeing you scared
Speaker 3: about your appointment really hit home for me. You know,
Speaker 3: seeing somebody get through it makes me feel like I
Speaker 3: can get through it, like there's light at the end
Speaker 3: of the tunnel. People are like I thought I was
Speaker 3: helping people just physically, but the emotional side of things
Speaker 3: and being scared to talk about cancer the way people
Speaker 3: have said they're able to open up about it after
Speaker 3: me being so open, like it's really shocking, and I'm
Speaker 3: just really glad that I was open about it because
Speaker 3: it's a power of mind to be able to share
Speaker 3: my story and not be self conscious about it, and
Speaker 3: I'm glad that it's able to help other people.
Speaker 1: Well, I for one, really appreciate that you did and
Speaker 1: that you continue to do so. If nothing else comes
Speaker 1: of this crazy show and your appearance on the Summerhouse,
Speaker 1: that's enough. Like that was a great mark to leave
Speaker 1: and a wonderful legacy to be known for. So appreciate it,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate your time and Jesse, we'll look forward
Speaker 1: to your next season. I know it's a while, but
Speaker 1: we got to know and love you on season one.
Speaker 1: Well it's not season one, but your first season, and
Speaker 1: we'll see you next season on Summerhouse as well. That'll
Speaker 1: be next spring on Bravo.
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much for having me. Make sure
Speaker 3: to check out November dot com and to grow a
Speaker 3: mustache in November. Do whatever you can to support.
Speaker 1: It's creepy, it's weird, but it's worth it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It just spreads awareness and it's a good way to
Speaker 3: raise money for a good cause.
Speaker 1: And real quick before we go, because it is a
Speaker 1: good cause. People talk about November all the time, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of people even know
Speaker 1: what it is. It's just like, oh, you're growing facial hair.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if people really know what the
Speaker 1: cause is. And it is about cancer, and it's about
Speaker 1: using awareness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for men's health, you know, mental health, prostate cancer
Speaker 3: to sticular cancer, suicide.
Speaker 2: So it's just good.
Speaker 3: That we talk about these things because if people are
Speaker 3: aware that there's resources to help them and there's people
Speaker 3: that are going through something similar, you know, we can
Speaker 3: help save lives.
Speaker 2: So I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: Well, damn good to meet you, man. Really had heard
Speaker 1: amazing things about you, and after talking to you, I
Speaker 1: see why everybody loves you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Really a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thanks for having me. Great to meet you.
Speaker 1: Right, Jesse, Take care, take care, Thanks for listening. Follow
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Speaker 1: five stars. I'll talk to you next time.