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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Really excited for my guest today, Jesse Solomon from Summerhouse,

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Speaker 1: and I'm excited. Obviously we're going to talk about Summerhouse.

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Speaker 1: He was new last year, had a good last season.

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Speaker 1: But what I really wanted to talk about Jesse about

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Speaker 1: was the impact he had. He was very open and

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Speaker 1: honest about surviving testicular cancer and actually a two time

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Speaker 1: cancer survivor, and was very open about how he found

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Speaker 1: out his diagnosis when he was a younger guy, had

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Speaker 1: one of his testicles surgically removed, went through chemo. Even

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Speaker 1: during the season, you know, was taking calls publicly with

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Speaker 1: doctors about diagnosis and how things are going. And he

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Speaker 1: was really open about his fear, how scared he was

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Speaker 1: at the time, and was just very vulnerable and open.

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Speaker 1: And look, he's a good looking finance guy. But those guys.

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Speaker 1: The thing about you know, these looking finance guys in

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Speaker 1: New York, they're like, you know, apples on the tree.

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Speaker 1: There's a million of them, and so what sets him apart?

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Speaker 1: And this story really set him apart. He's you know,

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Speaker 1: six ' five, good looking guy, a typical reality TV guy,

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Speaker 1: but his open book mentality and being so vulnerable is

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Speaker 1: really what drew us all to him and have a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about men's health things we should all

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Speaker 1: be doing. Is he coming back to Summerhouse and if so,

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Speaker 1: what's that going to look like because the gloves will

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Speaker 1: be off for producers and what will that storyline be?

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Speaker 1: And I think they're in production right now, so we'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to talk to our guest today, Jesse Solomon.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is Jesse Solomon. Hey man, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for taking the time.

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Speaker 2: Chris, thank you for having me. Happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: You made your big debut on Summer House. How old

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm thirty one, thirty one and you made

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Speaker 1: your fora into reality TV. Yeah yeah, tell me that

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Speaker 1: thought process because you're a lot younger than me. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time around reality TV, but

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious what the modern take is, like, what

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Speaker 1: did you grow up on and what made you think

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Speaker 3: You know, I had a lot of different careers before

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Speaker 3: heading into reality TV. I only watched the Real world

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Speaker 3: for a few years when I was young, and that

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Speaker 3: kind of like taught me what partying was. I think,

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Speaker 3: all right, but I was never a big reality TV

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Speaker 3: finance at the time and just kind of unfulfilled and

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Speaker 3: wondering if I was on the right path. And then

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Speaker 3: a digital first world these days, and I thought I

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Speaker 2: It's it's turned out great.

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Speaker 3: So I'm really grateful that I that I got the

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Speaker 3: opportunity and glad I did.

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Speaker 1: It was that kind of the thought process of this

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Speaker 1: did great and they treated you very well and you're

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Speaker 1: still we'll get into your storyline and all that. But

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Speaker 1: what was interesting is, you know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: get into reality TV thinking this is going to be positive,

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Speaker 1: this is going to help my brand. Oftentimes it doesn't,

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Speaker 1: but for you, it really has. In season one anyway,

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Speaker 1: you know, it felt like you were this really likable,

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Speaker 1: lovable guy. You know, the song of what would Jesse do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Season one to ease you into it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, there's no guarantee that it's going

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Speaker 3: a good experience. But at the end of the day, like,

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Speaker 2: A big commitment.

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Speaker 3: You know, not a lot of finance guys on TV

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Speaker 3: for a variety of reasons.

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Speaker 2: My family was not initially on board.

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Speaker 3: They don't understand, you know, the Instagram of it all

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Speaker 3: But I just figured if I could have my own platform,

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Speaker 1: Your storyline was very personal, and it's one of the

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Speaker 1: which was awesome. Thank you were you always was that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think quite frankly, it was a big reason

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Speaker 3: that they wanted me to be on the show because

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Speaker 3: I wasn't just your typical finance bro living in New York.

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Speaker 3: I had another layer to me, and I'd been through

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Speaker 3: some things and I had a different perspective on life.

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Speaker 2: I knew it was.

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Speaker 3: Going to be a part of my story, and you know,

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Speaker 3: just like any typical situation where you're coming into a

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Speaker 1: Like the first episode, Hi, I'm Jesse, I have testicular cancer.

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Speaker 3: Amanda's like, what's the worst thing that's ever happened to you?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, let's wait till tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I knew it was going to be a

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Speaker 3: part of my story, and it's something that I'm open about,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, you know, worst case scenario, reality TV

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Speaker 3: doesn't go well for me, I get canceled, whatever it

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Speaker 3: Be spreading awareness that there's normal people out there who

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Speaker 1: Well, I can rest your fears. Nobody gets canceled on

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Speaker 1: reality no word, never mind. It's very interesting because so

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor was interesting, especially it's very different than Summerhouse

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Speaker 1: because Bachelor it's like, Okay, I may only have two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't strategic in any way. It just is

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Speaker 3: It's it's a big part of who I am.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're thirty one, you're healthy, young, good looking guy,

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Speaker 1: you have the world by the tail, you have the

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Speaker 1: And I was young once. I wasn't as good looking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very scary. I was twenty four at

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Speaker 3: be quite frank, And looking back, it just kind of

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Speaker 3: then you learn more about it and you learn that

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Speaker 3: it's you know, one of the more treatable forms of

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Speaker 3: you know, want to help promote that message with November

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Speaker 2: If you feel something change.

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Speaker 3: You got to go to your doctor, get regular checkups,

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Speaker 1: Guys are really bad when it comes to medical stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I you know a lot of guys listen to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's one thing about me is I'm so

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Speaker 3: I think I'm just an open book. I think I've

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Speaker 3: always kind of been that way like things. I'm just

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Speaker 1: Well, then you're a reality producer's dream then.

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Speaker 1: Usually it's like pulling teeth to get people to talk.

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Speaker 1: So if you'll open up, that's that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely getting myself into trouble, but it'll be good TV. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My message to men is just check yourself once a month,

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Speaker 1: And but let's be honest, we're all washing our junk.

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Speaker 1: Just any regular irregularities.

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Speaker 3: Want to see if anything's changed since the last time

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Speaker 1: Are you single now?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, because you didn't hook up with anybody at Summerhouse?

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Speaker 2: Well or did you?

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Speaker 2: You, Chris?

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing, because here, here's here's my thing.

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Speaker 1: I can't make Jesse look bad. The dude has he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, I'm definitely involved in a lot of

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Speaker 3: I mean the first season you're not you don't have

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it.

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Speaker 1: I guess look at that smile on his face, Guys,

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Speaker 3: It's it's just a lot to date in a in

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Speaker 3: Both, but I was referring to TV. Yeah, there's just

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Speaker 1: You're happy, and that's right there. That's the most important thing,

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Speaker 2: Then, yeah, definitely. No, No, I won't.

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Speaker 3: I'm learning that I'm not as good as I thought.

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Speaker 3: I'm very open. I just need to be open with

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Speaker 1: Interesting. What is that's very cryptic? What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: You like?

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's an interesting self realization about yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just need to communicate with your partner and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that's interesting. So you've always been very forthright

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been in a relationship in a while, so

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Speaker 1: On and off?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the following that these people are getting post show, like,

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Speaker 3: it's really an incredible formula for reality TV. And I'm impressed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what you know, It's what The Bachelor used

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Speaker 1: to be. But The Bachelor is also and is so

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Speaker 1: antiquated in the way it shot, way how much money

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Speaker 1: it costs. It's very expensive, and so they've had to

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Speaker 1: cut back. They've cut back on the production, the days,

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Speaker 1: the people, so the show is hurting on many levels,

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Speaker 1: including production, and then you have a show like Love Island.

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Speaker 1: They have gone the opposite side of the spectrum of

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Speaker 1: very cheap crank these episodes out, get people in and out,

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Speaker 1: and so production is tighter, and so it's you know,

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Speaker 1: and The Bachelor just because of what it was back

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago, you can't do that, you know, you

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Speaker 1: can't just change or else you're not that show. So

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Speaker 1: they're kind of a victim of their own success. So

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Speaker 1: it is fascinating to watch all these shows and summerhow

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Speaker 1: same thing. It's like you get everybody in there, it's

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Speaker 1: like you can crank these out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well there's five months between when filming wraps and

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Speaker 3: when the first episode there is.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of wild.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really takes a while, and they're moving as

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Speaker 3: quick as they can.

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Speaker 2: I know that. So it's a different, different formula.

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Speaker 1: It's a difficult thing to do. Like I remember on

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor that one of the toughest things was that

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Speaker 1: break from show rapping to show airs because of relationships mainly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how long is that on The Bachelor, like because

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Speaker 3: they really keep it quiet, but with us, it's like

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Speaker 3: five months and it's your real life, it's like very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's you know the Bachelor was It depends

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Speaker 1: on you know. What we used to do is a

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Speaker 1: Baucher in the fall. You would wrap up right before

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Speaker 1: Christmas break or really around Thanksgiving, and then it would

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Speaker 1: air in January. So what you had like a month

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Speaker 1: and a half to two months. Not crazy, but when

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Speaker 1: a couple just you know, when the whole show's about

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Speaker 1: getting engaged and they're happily engaged, and it's like, stop,

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Speaker 1: I can't talk to my parents, I can't talk to

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Speaker 1: my friends. I can't it's tough to foster that relationship.

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Speaker 1: You can't really talk about it and live it like

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Speaker 1: you normally would, so you kind of, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: like you put a lid on it for a second

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Speaker 1: and then you got to like lift that lid off,

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Speaker 1: and it's like the whole world knows. And so that's

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Speaker 1: a difficult thing to figure out. If we had a

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Speaker 1: tough time navigating that early on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting. Well, I will say that the producers that

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Speaker 3: we work with truly and they've been incredible to me,

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Speaker 3: especially when I was going through the cancer stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so yeah, it is amazing to create these relationships through

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 1: That's good. I love to hear it. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: you know, one other side note about your cancer diagnosis

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Speaker 1: and all that you got a call that you took

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Speaker 1: during the show you probably thought, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you knew ahead of time, but I love

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Speaker 1: the fact that you just exposed all that and you

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Speaker 1: showed you know, getting the call and getting the diagnosis

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Speaker 1: and all of that stuff is great to see. I

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Speaker 1: think guys especially need more of that that it's okay

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Speaker 1: to embrace that, don't shy away from those medical issues.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing how many messages I get from people

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Speaker 3: saying I went through the same thing. Seeing you scared

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Speaker 3: about your appointment really hit home for me. You know,

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Speaker 3: seeing somebody get through it makes me feel like I

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Speaker 3: can get through it, like there's light at the end

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Speaker 3: of the tunnel. People are like I thought I was

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Speaker 3: helping people just physically, but the emotional side of things

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Speaker 3: and being scared to talk about cancer the way people

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Speaker 3: have said they're able to open up about it after

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Speaker 3: me being so open, like it's really shocking, and I'm

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Speaker 3: just really glad that I was open about it because

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Speaker 3: it's a power of mind to be able to share

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Speaker 3: my story and not be self conscious about it, and

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that it's able to help other people.

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Speaker 1: Well, I for one, really appreciate that you did and

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Speaker 1: that you continue to do so. If nothing else comes

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Speaker 1: of this crazy show and your appearance on the Summerhouse,

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Speaker 1: that's enough. Like that was a great mark to leave

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Speaker 1: and a wonderful legacy to be known for. So appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate your time and Jesse, we'll look forward

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Speaker 1: to your next season. I know it's a while, but

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Speaker 1: we got to know and love you on season one.

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Speaker 1: Well it's not season one, but your first season, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see you next season on Summerhouse as well. That'll

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Speaker 1: be next spring on Bravo.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much for having me. Make sure

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Speaker 3: to check out November dot com and to grow a

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Speaker 3: mustache in November. Do whatever you can to support.

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Speaker 1: It's creepy, it's weird, but it's worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It just spreads awareness and it's a good way to

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Speaker 3: raise money for a good cause.

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Speaker 1: And real quick before we go, because it is a

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Speaker 1: good cause. People talk about November all the time, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of people even know

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Speaker 1: what it is. It's just like, oh, you're growing facial hair.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if people really know what the

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Speaker 1: cause is. And it is about cancer, and it's about

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Speaker 1: using awareness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for men's health, you know, mental health, prostate cancer

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Speaker 3: to sticular cancer, suicide.

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Speaker 2: So it's just good.

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Speaker 3: That we talk about these things because if people are

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Speaker 3: aware that there's resources to help them and there's people

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Speaker 3: that are going through something similar, you know, we can

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Speaker 3: help save lives.

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Speaker 2: So I'm all for it.

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Speaker 1: Well, damn good to meet you, man. Really had heard

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Speaker 1: amazing things about you, and after talking to you, I

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Speaker 1: see why everybody loves you.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Really a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thanks for having me. Great to meet you.

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Speaker 1: Right, Jesse, Take care, take care, Thanks for listening. Follow

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Speaker 1: us on Instagram at the most Dramatic pod ever and

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Speaker 1: make sure to write us a review and leave us

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Speaker 1: five stars. I'll talk to you next time.