1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Forever. Look man, oh I see you? Why why and 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness culture? 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: And they're back and they're back where this is our 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: first sash back in New York. They've returned l a 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: trap deft on Los Angeles now that we've been there 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: for nine months. Look, uh, it's not the pace for 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: me just yet. Here's here's what I was saying. Don't 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: let it hear you. You can't. Yeah, um, hopefully no 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: one who lives in a LA can. We'll hear this. 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: You you max out at four things you can do 11 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: in a given day, and then you're fucking zoon. I 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: will say this. I've we were just talking to hPG 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: about this before you came in. Um, I've never in 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: my life experienced people just being like, yeah, it's cool, 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: you're twenty five minutes later, and like to like wild, 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: like it's normal to be twenty five minutes late. If 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm three minutes later in New York, I'm having a 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: panic attack, full fledged cannot breathe on the shore. Also, 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: I don't exactly know how parking validation as a concept 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: works as a concept, what like, what do you do? 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: What's the transaction? How does that happen? And also it 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: takes time. It takes time. Also, Um, it's officially the 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: war of the hot producers. It's true. We have such 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: an amazing experience with our stunning producer Brett over in 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, so hot producer Joe get a little jealous 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: that we were giving so much attention to hot producer 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: that it contain jealousy. So you know, guys, y'all just boys, 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: girls and bes way in like like whose side are 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: you on? Well? And now you've heard both of their voices, 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: both their luscious voices, and you know, Joe received so 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: many compliments on his luscious tambo from Tera Able from 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: the New York, from ne York Magazine with that um observation. 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: But you know, Brett, that's a good voice. That's kind 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: of good voy spread you guys, you guys brown the mic, 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: he was wonderful. They're both taken men, So don't get 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: too excited. Both spoken for. We have such a good 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: guest today. She okay, I'm just gonna go. I'm gonna 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: list the credits because I've been a fan since day 39 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: motherfucking one from birth from her. Actually literally I took 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: today to refamiliarize myself with all the worlds, and it 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: was like taking a beautiful I don't want to say 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: the name j N Bath, j N Bath, j N Bath, 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: for which I was happy for the bubbles, for the bubbles. 44 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Here we go her fantastic album, quality notions. It's a classic, 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: truly a classic. And I don't mean to say that 46 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: as like a way of aging it. It's just truly 47 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: like people will study it, you know what I'm saying. 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: I also want to talk to her about it because 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: she has similar pet peeves to me regarding food. I 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: want to pizza. Just the works, okay. And then of 51 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: course she has her book How Do We Be in Public? 52 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: So so wonderful and um. She is going to headline 53 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Punchline in Philly July fit through seventh, and then we're 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: gonna talk. She wants to talk about the other dates. 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk dates, she said, So we're gonna talk 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: about dates in New York. She's gonna be an Edinburgh. 57 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: It's Philly dates, the whole deal. She's on a water 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: as Britney Spears has and please welcome to the show. 59 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: Jacqueline Novack, Oh my god, that was the tension building thrill. 60 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: It's a positive absolutely. I mean, like most it's a stress. 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Wow. And I was giggling a little 62 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: like I felt myself like like I couldn't resist making 63 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: like a little bit of sound. And I love that. 64 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: I love when the when the podcast guest makes a 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: little cameo with a giggle. Do you think it's like 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: a coy insistence and attention or I don't know, Like 67 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a toe in the water. I 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: thought it was a flirty, flirtatious little hinted a hello. 69 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: I think it's like, um, I think it's just like 70 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: a necessary reassertion because otherwise, I mean, it would be 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: more weird if you were just stone cold silent the 72 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: whole time. Yeah. If I looked really that's what it is. 73 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: If I looked really like out of this, Yeah, it 74 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: was like hello. We've had both people. We've had people 75 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: who just jumped in from the beginning. Yeah, we're like, 76 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: this is adic energy. We've had people who sat there 77 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: stoically and actually would make eye contact with us because 78 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: they feel like they can't even give the air of 79 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: being in the room, you mean, until they're introduced, until 80 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: they're introduced. Fascinating, isn't it. But you existed in the 81 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: plane of reality. Thank you. I mean I tried to 82 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: keep it real for us all you know, well, of course, 83 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean, artifice can only save us. At the same time, 84 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we love, we love artifice, but fly back 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: and forth, we fly back and forth that there is 86 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: a function to artifice. But why why let that encroach? 87 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: It's actually real culture number ninety six. We love artifics. 88 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: And fourth, absolutely, Jacklyn, Let's talk dates. Yeah, let's talk 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: dates about dates. Normally I'm like whatever, just like, go 90 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: to my Twitter or something, which is my full name, 91 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: or I'm like, which you could figure out somehow around 92 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, but now I'm like, or you 93 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: go to my Instagram because I recently created a link tree. 94 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: Explain this. Okay, So my instant is j C n 95 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: O V. I see that first link tree, is like, So, 96 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's a ridiculous claim I made earlier today 97 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: it's not true. But I'm gonna say anyway, because I 98 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: like to throw these things around me throw this around 99 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: to my boyfriend. I go, I'm actually one of the 100 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: first people to riff on Lincoln bio. Oh, Lincoln bio. 101 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure and I definitely wasn't one, Like 102 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean I had to, Like honestly, I don't think 103 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: if they're doing but honestly, like I don't remember seeing 104 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: a lot of other people doing mine, like all sorts, 105 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: like let me think, like, um, Lincoln's by like abe 106 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: Lincoln's does that? That's great? Listen and Yang Dunaway is 107 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: a big, big connoisseur of the Lincoln bio. But I've 108 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: hit a wall, so okay, so talk have you hit 109 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: a wall? Right? And you're like this this is like 110 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: me with sneakers, where it's like, okay, like it keeps evolving, right, 111 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: and you keep pushing it, pushing and pushing it, and 112 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: then you got to a point where like it's become 113 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 1: meaningless and you're like, is the only truth to simply 114 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: say Lincoln bio like have you have we gone too far? 115 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: And you need to come back around? But will But 116 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: then the terror is will they know that I have 117 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: gone that journey and that my plane Lincoln bio is 118 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 1: like it's like when you're wearing the okay for example, 119 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: like and I don't mean I know there's some like 120 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: sucken me like I don't know these basic ones that 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: I had like back in high school that were like 122 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: throwbacks then you know, they were like and it was 123 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: like it's it's basically blue ones that whatever. And now 124 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: they're like they've like back in and they've like brought 125 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: up they like those have like what was my vintage pair? 126 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: Then then they re right, So then I'm like, what 127 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: do I go buy them again? Now? Like no one. 128 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: So sneakers progressively moved like in my high school sort 129 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: of like preppy sneaker kind of like thing, being into 130 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: like new balance and being like yeah I get the 131 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: men's grays like whatever was big, and then as they 132 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: became more mainstream and like yes, yeah, first of all, 133 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: like yes, there was a there was a boom, like 134 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: a saturation. There was a saturation that was like the 135 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: cherry on Top was like the moment where it was 136 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: like they support trumpers like a dark cherry moment. To 137 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: be everywhere means there's got to be something dark. Yeah yeah, yeah, 138 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. You have reached that like so so, but 139 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: then it was like, okay, do I move Like by college, 140 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: I felt like, well, other people were like just getting around, 141 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: like the vintage simple sneaker. I was like so tired 142 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: of it that I was moving into like modern sneakers 143 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: and like kind of like like you know, like just 144 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: like what they became like crazy shapes. Yes, but I'm 145 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: like but no, no, no no, like these people don't. Yeah, 146 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: it's like something ahead of your time. It's it's hell, 147 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: it's hell. And so now basically if you were to 148 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: if you were to go and do Linky Bye Bye 149 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: or like Lincoln by Bible or something stupid, people would 150 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: be like, oh, she's doing that. No, meanwhile, Jack Wine 151 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: know that was the original. You have been a fan 152 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: of her since day one. And the truth is, like 153 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: I literally I think I was maybe like I'm only 154 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: actually the first person in my apartment just to do it, 155 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: and that's why my boyfriend still hasn't done it. So 156 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: like just like as a community as well, you know, 157 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: it's always nice to know, you know, give credit, but 158 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: you also want to like like you also want the 159 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: privilege of like as an artist, like that you get 160 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: to talk about your like lover as like just like 161 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: a character in your life. Yes, so it's kind of 162 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: like it goes two ways. But anyway, I really enjoy 163 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: making those claims like you know, like I knew, like 164 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: if anyone was around, it would be immediately. Um, well 165 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, do you feel imprisoned by Gaylyn's send being 166 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: like the greatest things wrapping? But then she hasn't been able. 167 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: He's never come out of that, do you know what 168 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying? And that's fine. He holds trying. He's kept 169 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: that consistent for what five years now? Like what is this? 170 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what every tweet with scent and he's 171 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: been doing this since did you never stop? I think 172 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's like a Christian shaw is 173 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: a horse thing where it's like, okay, this thing is 174 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: do you know what I'm talking about? It's like Chris 175 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: and Christin Shawl to do the spit back into that 176 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: and seven where it's just screaming Kristin Shawl as a 177 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: horse and then like and forth. They did a radio 178 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: loop on this. This is how funked up. It is 179 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: like there's a cycle of oh, this is funny, this 180 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: is getting old. I had it, Oh this is funny again, 181 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: I hate it. Open this is funny again? Like the 182 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: beats of amazing, Yeah that is is that what we're 183 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: touching on? Like with Gabe even like well, what what 184 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: I was? I actually feel like I feel like I 185 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: believe he reached something. I feel he actually got something 186 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: so good that it cannot and we'll not die. The 187 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: prison I was referring to is our prison, which is 188 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: like knowing that like I don't it would be like 189 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, you see, like this is like a cheeseball example. 190 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: I feel like like not wanting even not like familiar 191 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: with like you were like Anna win tours like banks 192 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: or whatever. Okay, like like a strong choice you like 193 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: hold onto three years and you're like if I like, 194 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: do you ever want to make an arbitrary choice? So 195 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: you have something, So you have something that is like 196 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: like when you see people who are branded so specifically 197 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: and you're like, god, damn that person like matail Lanes, 198 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: like mustache and the backwards hat and the big arms 199 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: and the tank top. That's like matail Lane. If anyone 200 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: ever was going to do that, you'd be like, bitch, 201 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: I see you're dressing up in matail Lane drag and dada. 202 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: But is there some sort of cycle with Anna towards 203 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: Win towards banks, for example, where it's like all their 204 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: all their lame all their cheek again, is that well? 205 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: I think I think I think she's safe because it's 206 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: like it's the sticking through when it's the sticking through 207 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: when it's not cool, that makes it like that's a 208 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: count choice, right, And so I believe Gab is safe. 209 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: And like, I also like obsessed without brilliant is like 210 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: some things are pure excellence and that is like someone asked, 211 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: like I'm be like why do you always do it? 212 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: And I like, even though we've never discussed with gave 213 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: like launched into like like a five sentence like explanation 214 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: of why I thought it was genius and it's like yes, 215 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: like and like I just like I don't know, like 216 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: sometimes people get it right, yeah right, you're gonna die. 217 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: A ridiculous example of this issue in college, I apparently 218 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: I and I've forgotten about this. I told my friend like, 219 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: like who wanted to attract the interests of like this 220 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: crush she had, like some older guy in the school 221 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: or whatever. I was like, I think it's really important 222 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: to get like a strong and bright accessory. Okay, I 223 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: was kind of like a red purse. Okay, like just that, 224 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: like matter what else you were, he's like, oh, there's 225 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: a red purse girl. Yeah, remember very that sounds like 226 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: maybe like like did I pull that from Cluel? Not 227 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: sure you know what? Song literally just came my which 228 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: would also works like if you want, if you were 229 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: the girl with the raspberry beret, you'd be unforgettable. Maybe 230 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: they even be a prince song about your girls. Well 231 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: then is it like what do you have? So what 232 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: do we do? Well? This is the thing I had 233 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,479 Speaker 1: to go. I have had to go through different iteration, 234 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: like visual iterations where I feel like different class now 235 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: I feel like an ass now it's like, oh, different glasses, 236 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: Like I should have just committed to one frame, one 237 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: hairstyle for a decade, the prison of branding. No, no, no, 238 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: I have I have a bird's eye view on this 239 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: because I do see you each day of my life, 240 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: and I feel that these glasses are it. But with 241 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: your frosted hair, I gotta go back to your frost 242 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: I love. But you're seeing the elements that you're like 243 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: it was this one and this one and I together 244 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: because it's a little bit of like modern new and 245 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: like a little bit of classic, which I think is 246 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: very you. And the reason I came to this is 247 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: because we were just taking a lot of lifts in 248 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: l A and Bowen's lift picture is this like very 249 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: severe photo, like with the with the us there and 250 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: then with the silver hair, and I was like, oh 251 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: that was it. Those glasses are incredible, but with these glasses, Um, 252 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: well okay, now let's okay. So now how does this 253 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: So let's talk to day Oh yes, simply the country 254 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: is there. But then I've put together all these shows 255 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: so I can try to work out this show before 256 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: I go to Edinburgh. So it's like I got to 257 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: um that John Elwide's gonna Chodlie's gonna like we're gonna 258 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: banter up front because we haven't that I'm sorry, I'm 259 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: not familiar with He's um celebrated young man. Oh I 260 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,479 Speaker 1: know the blonde Yeah, yeah, it's the blond one. And 261 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: and he's gonna we're gonna banter up because we haven't 262 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: gotten to do this cake shop days. And then he's 263 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: going to leave the stage where I'm gonna then do 264 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: my hour basically, and then he's going to come back 265 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: on and compliment me at the end. Oh that's wonderful. 266 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: That's going to be a Union hall that the tickets 267 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: just went on sale celebrated Face July twenty one. I 268 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: think they're all in the link tree Jack No of 269 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: j c enevi Um. And then I'm doing some UCB 270 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: late night UCB East late nights. But just head to 271 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: the instagram for all the dates. Okay, but we're going 272 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: to Philly, We're going there, We're going everywhere has the dates? 273 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Can I can I connect with you about my appetizer? Um, 274 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: so you discuss I'm a big Wings fan as well. Yes, 275 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: this is huge for me. You have an amazing joke 276 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: about like being born early because you think I love it, 277 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: but uh, and I feel I was also born earlier. 278 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: It may have been the same reason. But when people, 279 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: let's talk eat, you know, getting people eat wings and 280 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: they don't quote use all of the buffalo a k A. 281 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: They don't suck that thing bone dry exactly until it 282 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: could be quote a Gypsy's era. Do I see Gypsy 283 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: in the same I believe it's because I've since changed 284 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: it because like like me, like you know, back in 285 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: two sixteen or whatever, you know, like we're moving quite 286 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: fast now, and not not to say that this believe Yeah, yeah, yeah, 287 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it was, Um, I 288 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: think it was even for the right. Wait maybe and 289 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm making that up. No, no no, no, it was gypsy's 290 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: hearing and like I didn't recognize gypsy as like a thing. 291 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: That's I don't think anyone did. Archetypal changed it to 292 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: pirate winch. That would now watching two years, I can't 293 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: say winch. But you know that they went down to 294 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: the did you hear about this? They went out to 295 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: the Pirates of the Cribby and then they changed the 296 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: whole scene where they're like doing the like h auctioning 297 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: of the women, and they made it so that the 298 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: women in power, like they changed the whole rime because 299 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: the the women are like in charge of the auction 300 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: in some way and it's not like it's not like 301 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: a prostitute. Then when we enslave men like and have 302 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: like the great like genocide of the male absolutely which 303 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: was which is coming? Um, oh my god, yes, when 304 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: people when people don't so yeah, I have a real 305 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: problem with this because first of all, I leave them dry, 306 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: their their clip art. They're they're jewelry, jewelry for whatever 307 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: group I feel like and disparaged. It's like, God, County 308 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: is such an indignity. I mean, like you know, like 309 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: just because like it is a constant issue, because I 310 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: do feel and it's just like coming up constantly. Now 311 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: I do feel like stand up. You're kind of like 312 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: getting up like to be cheap, like che's all about it, right, 313 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: you are kind of like getting up in the bar 314 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: and speaking to the people, right, so like if you're 315 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: too um like you kind of I sometimes feel like 316 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: you've got to move the people along because the joking 317 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: quality notions that like I've kind of been revisited or 318 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: everything on quality is currently being revamped, which is why 319 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: I may like or expanding home, which is why I 320 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: may pull it might be the quality notions demos get 321 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: it out and then like you know what I mean, 322 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: because to the Wilson or something, because it's kind of 323 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: like it's like this it's like a medley of me 324 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: just going up and going through my note and going 325 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: and I'm like a lot of these are like you 326 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: did that at a fest a few years ago? Is 327 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: that what it was? It was just and and but anyway, 328 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: it's like there's all these things. It's just it's just 329 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: tough to stand up because you're like you're like trying 330 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: to communicate. So in that on that album, I have 331 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: this same where I'm like I've been doing it, like 332 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: I was doing a version of it this weekend in context, 333 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: which is like, you know, oh what a bummer, like 334 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: that my boyfriend is. I mean, I don't say oh 335 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: what a bummer, but I mean I guess I opened 336 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: on Oh what a hummer. I'm like, you know, I 337 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: have my things about the shame of being a heterosexual 338 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: woman in the same age. And then I'm like, and 339 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: my boyfriend, like he's a heterosexual male and like I 340 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: don't think he's like ever at sex with a dude, 341 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like humiliated for him, and it's that kind 342 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: of thing, right, And then I'm like and like some 343 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: of the audiences in front of like are like oh, 344 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: like you know, like shocked and like whatever. And so 345 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: then I'm like nudging them along by being like, no, well, like, 346 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: don't you see like it's obviously like really manly for 347 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: a man to like people take down like a lion, 348 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: a lion not coming from me, a flower. Like it's 349 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: basically I'm like, it's fruity to like women like girls whatever. 350 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: So I'm utilizing obviously like sort of like I'm kind 351 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: of like I'm going like, no, you're a fruit utilizing 352 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: like the language, the language which is now questionable. But 353 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: I will say this, I listened to it and I 354 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: didn't think a second thing about it. I said that 355 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: joke was like extremely smart and like the language I 356 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: got right right, But also I can understand other people 357 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: being like, but you're still the word is here, and 358 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: because this language is here, I don't think so yeah honey, um, 359 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess because I'm like I feel like 360 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: it nudges them. I feel like it's not just the confused, 361 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: because then what happens is like the people that are like, huh, 362 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: why would you like your boyfriend? You know, get it? 363 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: And then like I say that and they like laugh 364 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: despite themselves and like go home ever so slightly changed, 365 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, it's not my most involved version 366 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: of what I was going to say about like like 367 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: you know whatever that amongst you know, but it's like 368 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: kind of like but I also like, maybe like who 369 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: am I serving if I'm only if I'm not nudging alot, 370 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: I know it sounds very self whatever because that is 371 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: something I think about a lot, like oftentimes even with 372 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: this podcast. It's just like like because we're a doing 373 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: like quote unquote like cultural takedowns, and I'm like, Okay, 374 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: who are we being too hard on? Who are we 375 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: like talking about? Maybe not the right way because especially 376 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: like with gay men, like there is this like proclivity 377 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: I think because the way we've been socialized to kind 378 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: of like talk about women like we own them and 379 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: also like its relationship that's like both loved and absolutely 380 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: and I think it's with women towards gay men and 381 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: like really every kind of group towards each other, Like 382 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: the way that you talk about each other like in 383 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: general is in general terms, it's like obviously like if 384 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: you went really down the road with it, it's all proble. Yeah, 385 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: but how much do we care? And at which point 386 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: do we start caring? Sure? I think, Jacqueline, I think 387 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: you escape all of this because I remember, because you 388 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: are the best no no, no, because you always I mean, 389 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: you're part of your trademark is that you always have 390 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: this layer of awareness on top of what you're saying, 391 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: because remember this matter. I think Matt and I saw 392 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: you after fifty first Jokes a few years ago, where 393 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: I think you like you. You you went out, you 394 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: went off on your thing about on a joke about 395 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: pizza probably probably, but then but then you broke out 396 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: of it at a certain point and you were like okay, 397 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: and like and I think something happened. Do you remember this? 398 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: Something something happened. And then you broke out of that 399 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: and you were like, all right, whatever, Like I'm like, 400 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: I'm riffing on pizza, but like I'm not gonna come 401 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: up here and do a fucking like Mark Norman thing, 402 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: you know, like I think, oh my god, that's so funny. 403 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: It was like it got such a good response. I 404 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: mean when you were shooting on Mark Norman and he 405 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: was there, he was there here. Yeah. I was like, 406 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: I was like, right, because I'm feeling the I'm feeling 407 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: the anxiety of like frustration at like Mark presenting like 408 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: this pollished like I'm just like, you know, I'm constantly 409 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: suffering at my own way and actually talked like I 410 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: literally like everything, you know, I just see like the 411 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: opposite of what I do, and I'm like, that's what 412 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: I should should have done. Of course that's not you know, 413 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: you gotta be you and you gotta like find your 414 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: way and whatever. But in the moment you think, yes, 415 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: this is what yeah, yeah, yeah, I like sorry, like 416 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: because I'm like, you know, like there's always one person 417 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: that becomes the face of your anxiety of the evening. Yes, 418 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: like it could be someone else on the show that 419 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: like you feel like times, but like it's often then 420 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: more than not even And I never seen me and 421 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: they've never seen me do good. You know those people 422 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: that you just memorize as having never seen you do. 423 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: I have in my head a file cabinets of every 424 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: time everyone has seen me before, and whenever anyone is 425 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: like oh hey, like in the continent, I'm like, no, 426 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: they never saw me. They don't even know that this 427 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: is not a real interaction. Oh my god, it's so 428 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: I haven't I'm very bad, But I have the people 429 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: who I care. It's not even people that you've bombed 430 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: in front of. Like I have this anxiety and it's 431 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: so funny because I'm I'm opening for him this weekend. 432 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: But with John, like I have this inferiority complex with 433 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: John Early that has like followed me for years and years, 434 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: and like he's always been so supported and so great 435 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: and he's seen me do well. It shows and like 436 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I have to prove anything. But 437 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: it's also like, oh, but it's John, Like he's I 438 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: think a lot of gay men have that with gay 439 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: comics have that with him because he he really is 440 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: the first one to really embrace all this special specific 441 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: shit about him and like, really he was doing gay comedy. 442 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: Was he really got away with it in a way 443 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: that it's like, oh my god, he's doing it because 444 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: of the way we're socialized. Doing it means like maybe 445 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: he's the only one that ken and that does get 446 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: you a little bit in yea, but obviously that's not true. 447 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: In the last couple of years, it's like really broke 448 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: open to everybody, and I think, like truly, just him 449 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: succeeding is just it's so much better Rule number seventy 450 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: eight of culture all ties in the moat. But anyway, 451 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: to go back to the first jokes, thing like you 452 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: always have the warders, I think you are you escape 453 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: that sort of whatever questionable language. I mean, right, well, 454 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: who cares? Well, that's the thing. There's a wink, there's 455 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: a wink. There's always good to the not the cheap seats, 456 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: right right, the cheap seats. I don't know, it's always, 457 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: but there is a thing. It's like, you know, you're 458 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: doing comedy and you should be able to get up 459 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: there and be messy because you're the comedy, Like you're 460 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: the jester and you're supposed to be the one who's 461 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: a mess in front of the king. But now it's 462 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: just like the king being like write down everything that 463 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: justice the Potentially it's hard. It is a weird position 464 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: to be in. Yeah, no, and yeah, and like yeah, 465 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: getting is like purpose, like I know, like I can 466 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: like sitting here and like launched in like so typical 467 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: like my anxieties of the day, Like why couldn't I 468 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: keep it locked down? You know what I mean? I 469 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: mean I asked about chicken wings. I want my experience 470 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: with the wings, all right. But there was like a 471 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: new appetizer thing that no one ever likes that I 472 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: felt like maybe I should share it now because like 473 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: this is my only chance. Oh it's just I don't 474 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: think it's on like any anywhere because like no one 475 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: ever likes this, but like I think it's so funny, 476 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: which was just like a thing which is one of 477 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: my other appetizer issues. It could be on there. I 478 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: don't even remember. But it's like I hate when there's 479 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: two there a couple of things, okay, but I hate 480 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: when um so like me and my friend are like sharing, 481 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: don't worry, I'm not doing my my other nachurals bit 482 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah you do, She's going to do whatever 483 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: you're one, you know or whatever, like about like and 484 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: that's also like a version on quality otions, right version 485 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: artist sorry, different naches issue, which is let's say I'm 486 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: meeting nachos, me and my friends sharing it is the appetizer. Okay, 487 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: there's like it's like down to mostly the end and 488 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: kind of soggy, and it's just like the remains okay, 489 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: but like I'm still working on it, right, And they 490 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: come and they're ready. They come by with our burgers 491 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: and they think that automatically like surely because the entrees 492 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: here I've forgotten all about, Like I no longer interested 493 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: these because of course, like I recognized as a full 494 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: burger and fries or whatever, and does me okay, put 495 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: them down, but don't take that away. And just because 496 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: it looks like soggy like to you, it's like they 497 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: were there for me when you weren't, and when and 498 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: when the entree was like and I saw them age 499 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like I saw them fresh, 500 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: and I saw them like they took me here as 501 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: I ate them. Yeah. I went out to dinner with 502 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: Sydney Washington yesterday and there was like and those three 503 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: little mommies away and I was like, I don't think so, No, 504 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: those are for us, Like they're the same family of 505 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: the other ones. Like I ate them. I will eat 506 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: them all. They'll all end up in the same place. 507 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: That's why they belong. You know, it's hysterical. This will 508 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: this will free you about about if you ever have 509 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: hesitation about taking the last whatever, like the last yeah, 510 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, never cookie is or something. Okay, so you're 511 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: already free. But it's like it's like the last cookie 512 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: is no different than the first. Quak, Hey you took 513 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: seven before, Like I mean, do you know what I'm saying? 514 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: I think? And also like it's about who wants it 515 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: the most at the point I really don't believe in like, 516 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: well I've had the most, I've had the second most, 517 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: I've had the least. It's like I always ask him, 518 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: like who wants that last? There? Yeah, but the difference 519 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: is there's an existential difference in that last cook You're right, 520 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: I'm refusing context, Like it's kind of like there's a 521 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: purism that's false to what I'm saying, but like it 522 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: sometimes needs to be acknowledged because like I'm like, yeah, 523 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: but you had no qualms three cookies ago. It maybe 524 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: I stand by. Maybe I actually coming around. I think 525 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: you always just gotta ask you always, and then if 526 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: they say no, we don't mind, that is on them 527 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: and that they should go to their therapist about it. 528 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely there is Okay, can we just quickly revisit the 529 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: wings thing? Because I am I am on the other 530 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: side of this to say no, I just discard the bones, 531 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: even if there's ship left over. But you mean the 532 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: thing you order that's delicious. Well, here's the thing like 533 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm putting. I'm putting this in my mouth and there's 534 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: some weirdness. There's something inedible there. And so the marrow 535 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: the bone, well, you don't eat the bone, but leave 536 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: the bone behind. I know the fact that's a tiny 537 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: piece of jewelry. It's like it's like, I'm not okay, 538 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: let's say visit the visit the bit. It's all in 539 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: the text. This is what is key. Okay, what you're saying, 540 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: you're saying, like the gristle or the like, it's just 541 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: bone marrow, y'all. It's even girls. I'm not saying. I'm 542 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: saying the bone, the literal bone gets in my way 543 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: when it's in my mouth, and my body just rejects, 544 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I don't want this anymore. And 545 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: I can understand that because there is then more meat 546 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: and front of you that is more easy. That is 547 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: one of my critiques of the of the heterosexual mail. Okay, 548 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: this is what There's two issues in here, and this 549 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: is when I get into the wing. Okay, it's one 550 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to see you, Okay, not you guys, 551 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: my potential lover. Okay, I don't want to see him, 552 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: not to go into a bit, but you know you 553 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: forced it, forced it. I want someone who gets into 554 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: the corners or the flavors. I don't want someone who 555 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: feels little carnage. It runs the other way. Get into 556 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: the corner with it. Anyway. That's that's my bit language. Okay. 557 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: But there's that piece and then and then there's one 558 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: other thing you said. I was dying to respond to um, 559 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: it gets in my way. It's it's um, it's in edible, 560 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: the grizzle, the marrow, it's the mouth feel is off, 561 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: Like there's in front of me that I can the 562 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: other me being in front of you that you can 563 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: move on. Yes, that's the other piece. So the heterosexual 564 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: males is another issue. But this is something I just 565 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: thought about the long time because these guys that claim 566 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: they can't like they can't do monogamy, okay, because they 567 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: love can I say pussy, say proud? Guarantee? I was 568 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: doing it like a podcast and something and like where 569 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: they're like, can you like try to keep it friendly 570 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: and like for some reason, never never hurt more my life. 571 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: It was like I was like psychotic. I never asked 572 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: that question because then it's in their head and then 573 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: you will say ye, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Would you like, 574 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, would you like some nose with your soup? 575 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: You know, you like, don't talk about the nose, don't 576 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: talk about the nose. Would you like some nose with 577 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: your soup? It's like, I don't know, it's some kind 578 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: of like like old Jewish joke or something. Yes, of course, 579 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: wait so they love oh yeah right, And so they're like, 580 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: I love pussy so much, okay, like that, I like 581 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: can't be tied down with one like and I'm like, 582 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: excuse me, okay. And it's similar to not finishing the wing. Okay. 583 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: It's like, no, you've never actually had a pussy in full. 584 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: You've like basically the only the only thing you think 585 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: is hot is novelty. And it's like, wow, that's gonna 586 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: like so I see it as similar to the wing. 587 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: It's like someone that's like, I love Sundays. I live Sundays. 588 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: That's why I need ten Sundays. Okay, time for another Sunday. 589 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: And you see him and he's like he takes a 590 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: cherry off the top and like eats it. Sorry to 591 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: reference cherries on the top again, Okay, I can't do 592 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: it organically, Okay, just like take a fight of the 593 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: thing with a little bit of like like like with 594 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: the whipped cream again, and then like time for the 595 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: next Sunday because I love Sundays. And you're like, you 596 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: never you've never gotten into the messy, goopy slop. If 597 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: you it's rule of culture number six. If you haven't 598 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: eaten stop, you have not eaten Sunday. You're so right. 599 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: It's food is so telling, like like a guy, like 600 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: when you hook up with the guy once and then 601 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: they were like goodbye. I don't understand. They get to 602 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: act like they're these they're more sexually, they have a 603 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: greater sex drive than that's it's unfair and it's like no, no, no, 604 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: but you only like the only thing like look, it's challenging. 605 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: We all find novelty attractive and it's like it's always 606 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: fun to like. But I've been thinking that's like it's 607 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: like like through the Through the Ages, like I read 608 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: in college is like book four Married Couples, like with 609 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: the because I'm like, if I'm gonna want to be 610 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: married or something like I want to be in a monograaus, 611 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: can you keep it alive in marriage or whatever? Like 612 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: I read it like an advance because I needed to 613 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: think about, like whether I was going to pursume an 614 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: augamy because it was worried. And it's like it's like, 615 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: surely there is more in this world that is hot, 616 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: right than only than than not only just crossing boundaries 617 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: in general, because you could do there's a number of boundaries, right, 618 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: like with a person, you could go deeper and deeper, 619 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: like literally just the first one like that. The only 620 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: thing that's taught is like is like stepping over Hey, 621 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, we're friends. No, we're not. Like that's 622 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: the only thing. Like we have to do better. We 623 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: have to try, like we have to have a better 624 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: palette for like for like sex. Okay, great, So then 625 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean, at what point does someone just eat every 626 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: single like yeah, when every little piece of gristle mare 627 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the line, Oh it's too much. 628 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: What's the end of the line sexually? Like you feel 629 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: completely You're right, right. I think it's like it must 630 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: be like what is it? It's just what it is 631 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: with my ex, I can say that. That's like when 632 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: you have a medical issue and you tell your partner, 633 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: can you look at this? And it may not be 634 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: on like your yes, that's when you're like you're past 635 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: it or you're there. That's when you know you know 636 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: you're there, You're like okay, like potentially this is like 637 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: a life situation because I check out the little things 638 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: on my body that even I can't see. Okay maybe, 639 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: And that's why I reject kind of sometimes that like 640 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: like keep you know, like keep the door closed and 641 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: you pee. I'm like, no, but can we find it? 642 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: Can't we find like a post like postmodern thing? Yeah, 643 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: like way towards hotness, Like I don't want it to 644 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: just be like keep the mystery alive like it when 645 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: you first met, like that seems or if you or 646 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: if the mystery, if if the mystery being alive defeats 647 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: this like sexiness, maybe that's not the true exactly. We 648 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: should dig deeper. We should dig deeper. And you've already 649 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: answered my question, Jacqueline, because as soon as you're done 650 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: eating every single thing off that bone, it becomes a 651 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: pirate wench is earring when you make it something beautiful, 652 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, The Lovely Bones. What a vicious book? 653 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: Can you believe the first chapter? I didn't read it. 654 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: I was too scared. Don't read it. Don't read it. 655 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: It's hilarious, it's great. I mean I read it, you know, 656 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: like when it came out or something. The Lovely Bones 657 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: refer to like as I recall it, like a lovely 658 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean it was a metaphor of like the lovely 659 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: Bones of like grief that like in the in the 660 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: in the grief and in the absence of there's really 661 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: a bag of bones in the book Oh God, there 662 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: is all right, right a metaphor the literal and like 663 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: the things that come out of it from this raw 664 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: space of grief, the things in the relationships that come 665 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: out of like Handley or whatever, and like that's something 666 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: like that. Did you see the movie Mark Wilberg, Mark Wahlberg, 667 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: Rachel Vice. I believes the young daughter and then Stanley 668 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: Tucci and dominated no, he's the he's the killer. And 669 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: he got nominated for an Oscar for that, and I'm 670 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: like a little bit, I don't think so, honey, Yeah, 671 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: pedophile and you get an Oscar on It's like, yeah, 672 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: anything brave, we'll get an Oscar nomination. Like I had 673 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: a camera on me while I was dressed as a 674 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: pedophile talking creepy, and it's an Oscar nomination. It's like, 675 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: did you really get in there? Like here's that move 676 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: or is it a show? There's something that just came 677 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: out with with Laura dern oh the tail right, that 678 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: the thing and it's like they was really article about 679 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: how they shot it. So there's like a young girl 680 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: and her like sexual you know, abuse or whatever. I 681 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: did a proper relationship something and it's like they were 682 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: like a therapist was on set, the girl was never 683 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: basically the child actor was never. This is like how 684 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: it was described actually like not to be like crasped 685 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: by thought was kind of funny. Like they're like like, 686 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: so you know, it's based on the director or someone. 687 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: It's based on their like a actual story of like 688 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: a relationship with someone like a coach or something. And 689 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: that was that they like kind of thought was normal 690 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: at the time and like looking back like kind of 691 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: like unpacked it whatever. So this movie is like I 692 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: think it's like the adult self and she like and 693 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: then memories and like girl self and having and they 694 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: wanted to actually have these scenes of like the sexual 695 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: like acts going on in some form like see it 696 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: like like you gotta see it, like it's ugly and 697 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: like you gotta stop like making it like a subtle 698 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: like brave oscar thing that you don't see anything. It's 699 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: just like a guy like like lurking in a corner 700 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: and you're like brave. Yeah, and also making rape a 701 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: movie thing and making making like rape for movies. Yeah. Yeah, 702 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: So it's like it's like let's let's do it. Let's 703 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: like but let's not make it and like make a 704 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: traumatizing experience for the actor, but it sounds so that 705 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: for example, instead of leving or lay on a bed 706 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: like on her back, okay, like she's I was really 707 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: like the filmmaking of it, and like she's like standing 708 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: against the wall that's made up to look like a bed, 709 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: and then her hair is glued like against the wall 710 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: bed and then like you know, the direction never has 711 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: anything to do with it, Uh, the male actor and 712 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember who is right now, but like the 713 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: star and I just forgot who was like never on 714 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: set with the girl you know, like okay, like like 715 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: like she's never acting the scene. Oh wow, that's crazy. 716 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: So the directors like and then the directors like to 717 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: get the shots that was totally like you just fell 718 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: off your horse, okay whatever, like like Grandma took gave 719 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: you a piece of candy. And it's like kind of 720 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: like disturbing in another way because it's like is that 721 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: is that It's like is there something still not inappropriate? 722 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: Because I right, but I think it's almost like to 723 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: then use the imagery that you purposely got a different 724 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: way to mean a different thing has like a kind 725 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: of weird quality. It's like later when you're like when 726 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: you've grown up. But like she apparently she did read 727 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: the script and like, yeah, that's what I'm saying because 728 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: I was. But but if they were like not being 729 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: honest with her on set, she I wonder if she's 730 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: gonna like watch it back later and be like, oh, 731 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: I don't and be like look at her seeing herself 732 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: reacting to the situation and feel weird about it because 733 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't her natural. It's almost like, oh, oh, look 734 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: at you acting like how like it's like, no, that 735 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: was me acting like It's like you didn't get to 736 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: choose your own shot anyway, So you can never be 737 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: really stand behind it. You can never truly staying behind 738 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: the performance, right, And you're like and you're almost like, 739 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: I would never play like like maybe later you're like, 740 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: I would never play like, you know, a face of 741 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: trusting confusion like that, And then you it's like film 742 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: is the director's medium. Medium. It sounds I don't know, 743 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: that's a hard one. It sounds like, yeah, it's like 744 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: a hollowed out portrayal in a way. But also I 745 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: understand wanting to like make sure, yeah, just protecting and 746 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: just making sure everyone is okay. I think it is 747 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: the right choice, and like I'm coming at it kind 748 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: of hard. No, no, no, but it's bizarre, it's fascinating. Yeah, no, 749 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: it's very it's it's a little crazy. Can I ask 750 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: a question? Did we get to the Lovely Bones by 751 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: talking about chicken bones? Yes? We did that. Is I 752 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: fly where you take me? Yeah? I know where you 753 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: take me? High? We fly where you take a potential 754 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: potential title of where, she says when she gets on 755 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: the plane, she you know when you walk in and 756 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: like you see the flight attendance, you just make sure 757 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: you go in and check in the cock. But hey, 758 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: just sing know, man, I fly awhere, you take me whatever? 759 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: You're going to a flight when they know that they 760 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: could be creative with it, you know, I find it's 761 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: a smoother ride. Absolutely. You want to take a dip 762 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: here and there? You want to go fourteen thousand instead 763 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: of thirteen honey. I was like, I'm still here, I'm 764 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: still flatter. My god, have you ever had any horrific turbulence? 765 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 1: I had a bad one that was like we dropped 766 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: two feet and it was screened to laugh, But oh 767 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: my god, I'm waiting for that day to happen, and 768 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: I will be scared too. I can't. I'm furious that 769 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: we have extended like the thing we do. Everyone was screaming, 770 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: think they were going to die. It wasn't It's not 771 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: as like good. There was just one It was like 772 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 1: one comical moment. Okay, that felt like it probably felt 773 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: like in all honestly, you're not expecting me feel this 774 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: as why like like you know, like Pirates of the Caribbean, right, 775 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: a little like dips again and there's like a little 776 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: stomach drop. It's not crazy, right. It wasn't like really long, 777 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: but it was like it was like this, it was 778 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: like what you and everyone like and for like there's 779 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: something meetic to me, like because everyone yeah, and then 780 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: like one person kind of like stumbled and fell on 781 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: their knees in the and there was a lot of 782 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: turbulence after that. But that was the one dip. And 783 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: then I was like tweeting it Jip I think it was. 784 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: I was like tweeting at Jip Blue like from the plane, 785 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: like and then like and then there was like a 786 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: thing like we're gonna we're gonna land. Oh wait, it's 787 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: too choppy to land like we're going back up, and 788 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: then like fuel as low, so we're gonna go again, 789 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna get another We're gonna try again. And it 790 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: was like I like turned on the little like TV 791 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: thing was like coming in and out like like I 792 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: hadn't watched any content like quickly like focused on it 793 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: really intently and like and like it was, and then 794 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: getting off the plane like I wanted deats like yeah, 795 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: how exactly went down? You know, and like I never 796 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: got a response from Blue was very weird. I see 797 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: them respond to other people's stuff. Oh wow. Honestly, maybe 798 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: they saw that you were a comedian and didn't want 799 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: you to them honestly, Wait, no, I don't want to 800 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: hear from the from the from the like pilot, I 801 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: about exactly what specifically is going on, Like just you 802 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: have fans that we're going to give it another fuel 803 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: as I never want to hear the fuel that's the 804 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: worst thing you can hear. We're gonna try again. What 805 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: if we feel like it's like it's like it's like 806 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: options of decrease. Well, here's my big question. Okay, I'm sorry, 807 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm like soaring, I'm not having eaten anything today, 808 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: and wait, I had lunch. I forgot I had lunch too, 809 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: and I fell asleep right after and it was so bad. 810 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: There's just chicken and slop sitting in my stomach because 811 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: I ate the slap. I follow the rules, So what's 812 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: the big question? But I'm like, I'm like soaring and 813 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: so like I feel like people are gonna let them talk. No, no, 814 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: this is we we concede to our guests. So so 815 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: you were going to impose a big question? Oh yeah, 816 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: are you ready? So the big question? This is what 817 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 1: comes to mind every time there's like a lot of turbulence, okay, 818 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 1: And I'm there's always some noises with I believe landing 819 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: gear should stay open and down the whole time. Why 820 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: are we like pressing button on the questionable? Similar to 821 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: like I know this is how it works. Like and 822 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: I've never gone skydiving, okay, like don't really plan to, 823 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: but like the whole release of the shoot like terrifies me. 824 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: Like gizmos and gadgets and mechanical release always seem like 825 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: potential for failure. So like if you could hold the 826 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: parachute closed like just like a bunched up fabric and 827 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,479 Speaker 1: then like suddenly like let it go. Okay, that would 828 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: feel a lot safer to me. You would rather take 829 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: it into your own hands than have yes, because like 830 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: like I can't think of aecing metaphor, but it's like, yeah, 831 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: give over. Why give over something your life to something 832 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: that's like that's basically like at the like at the 833 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: mechanical level of like a zipper or spring or like 834 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: those kinds of things are like always like what breaks, 835 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: there's a margin, there's a margin forever and all of this. 836 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put out a gas failure that if we 837 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: put it in everyone's hands, like if we sent them 838 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: flying out of the planes with the ball of like 839 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: umbrella in their hand, I bet we'd have more deaths. 840 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna think. So I went. I did it when 841 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old and young and dumb and 842 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: not hesitate at the door. Here's the thing, here's the 843 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: thing you Yeah, you got to do tandem. And so 844 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: when I was eighteen years old, like all my high 845 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: school friends like, let's do it to celebrate graduation. I 846 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: was like, okay, and so we did it. And basically 847 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: the rule is you signed like your life away like, literally, 848 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: you sign like a book that says like if you die, 849 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: can't sue babe, And so I signed on the line. 850 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, we're all doing it. Meanwhile I 851 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: get in the plane. I quickly remember I have a 852 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: fear of flying. So then we're up in the air 853 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: feet and they say like once you get in the 854 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 1: plane itself, there is no turning back. They can't. They can't, 855 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: you can't stay in the plane. And did you know that, 856 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: because yeah, yeah, baby, um no, But what happens is 857 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: the plane drops. The plane doesn't land back at that base, 858 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: plane land somewhere else, and it's like a rotating thing 859 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: of planes. I think it's like a different plane, like 860 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: you'd be miles away. But I bet some people would 861 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: take the like fear would be like, yeah, take me 862 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: to Vermont right right, just like anywhere you want to go. 863 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: And I'm sure if you really want to do it, 864 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 1: they couldn't throw you out of the plane. But anyway, 865 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 1: you did sign, So what what was it like? Everything? 866 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: Here's here's what they terrified you. You sit there and 867 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: you're you're on tandem. So the guy they had me with, 868 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: I actually have it on video and if I ever 869 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: do I want to add a show someday, like show 870 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,479 Speaker 1: the video because it's also funny because I'm like eighteen 871 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: years old and like, hey, my name is Matt. So dark, 872 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: so dark. It's so dark and triggering and and you're 873 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: like it's just this. Yeah, it was bad. So the 874 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: guy they the guy they chose to put on my 875 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: back was this guy with like spiky hair, like comically spiky, 876 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 1: like like cartoon from Nickelodeon, Spikey that's like that, Oh 877 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: my god. So he's on back. I think his name 878 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: was something insane like fucking Trask. I don't know, um, 879 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: but he's on he's on my back, and like what 880 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: they do is all my friends went, and then I 881 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: was going, and then my friend was going behind me, 882 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: so it couldn't be this thing of like they all went, 883 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, something happened where I had 884 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: to stay. So at that point I was like, oh 885 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: my god, we have to go. What they do is 886 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: they sit you on the ledge of the plane with 887 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 1: your legs dangling, feeling the air, and then you go 888 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: one rap forward to rap forward, and then on three 889 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: you were supposed to front flip out of the plane 890 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: and then throw your arms and legs back and like 891 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: sane like, so you do like a front flip like 892 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: it's some fucking transporter ship, Jason, stayth of nonsense. Now 893 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be a special effects wizards. How do 894 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: you know you're coming out of the roll? What I mean? 895 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Also, remember there was a guy in 896 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: my back, so I trusted him, all right, and he 897 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: will help you help and he'll scream like legs out 898 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: if like that to the wind, and you're just like, 899 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: so you do it. And Trask was the one who 900 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: pulled the ship. Yes, he eventually pulled the shoot. But 901 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: and we'll call him Trash. He's officially trash. We flip out. 902 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: I watched the video later. I did not successfully flip. 903 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: I merely flopped out, like I see myself like trying. 904 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: But you also see like my mouth fem like no. No, 905 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 1: I got the video of it too, because I had 906 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: to pay for the video, Like I was like, if 907 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, I want, you know, video evidence. 908 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: So I do a front flip out do it and 909 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: for the first like fifteen seconds, you feel that free 910 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: fall like you were talking the Pirates of the Yes, 911 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: that but then the rest of it is I would 912 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: I would say it was similar to when you stick 913 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: your hand out of a car on the highway. It's 914 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: like that air on your arms. That's what it feels like. 915 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: The whole rest. Yes, very what it looks like when 916 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: you see wind tunnels, exact exactly, and so like I'm 917 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: on your whole body and yes, and so you do 918 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: see a moment because it's like a minute and a 919 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: half where you're in free fall and you the video 920 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: catches me like having listened for a time of like, 921 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm 922 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: trusting it, and guess what if I'm going to die, 923 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: it is already decided. So then I'm like, I'm like 924 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: free in the moment and then they pull he pulls, 925 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: the shoot it pulls. And what they don't tell you 926 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: what's unclear about the skydiving experience, not even that it's 927 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: that you float down from three thousand feet for ten minutes. 928 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: So that's the part that fox me up, Like the 929 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: free fall was fine, but it's not this thing where 930 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 1: they pull it and then seconds later you're on the ground. 931 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: It's ten minutes of just you in the harness with 932 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: the stranger on your back and just this piece of 933 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: fabric above you and literally thousands of feet under you. 934 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: And that is what people don't realize is that is 935 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: the part that's the shoot has been pulled. It actually 936 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: where the terror begins in ten minutes. And then he 937 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: started to do this thing where he started to like 938 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: put bank on the rope so that we would do 939 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: like a flipping motion. Why because that's what people do. 940 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, right, I got my two 941 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: fifty out of him, so and it was like it 942 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: was expensive too much. So like then I start to 943 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: get really violently struck, like I know myself get nauseous 944 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: because I realized the gravity of the situation, like literally 945 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 1: not no pun intended, but like I'm like, oh my god, 946 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: we're now floating down. It's going to be ten minutes 947 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: of this and he's spinning it. And I started to 948 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: get really nauseous. I hadn't eaten that day because I 949 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: was too nervous. I should have known, like I always 950 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 1: need to go on roller coasters on a full stomach 951 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: or else I get nauseous. I start to dry into 952 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,720 Speaker 1: my own shirts, spitting into my T shirt and really 953 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: having a hard time floating down ten thousand feet, spitting, coughing, 954 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: sputtering into my shirt. Trash is like, oh you okay, dude. Honestly, 955 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't don't think you canswer in 956 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: your bro voice. I was like, yeah, dude, I don't 957 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: think you should spin. I don't think we should talk either. 958 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I think I'm gonna I'm throwing up 959 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 1: into my shirt. The contents of my driving his hell, 960 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 1: oh it was horrible, and I did it the whole 961 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: way down. And then like the video was off you 962 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: by this point because they can't like floorce you. So 963 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: like the last thing you see him pull the him 964 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: pull the shoot. Then there's off camera ten minutes and 965 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: be like yeah yeah, into my shirt. And then the 966 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: next shot is just us landing and me landing, and 967 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 1: the guy with the video camera goes, hey, it's Matt, 968 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: what do you think one of many? And I just 969 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,399 Speaker 1: go with like days, look in my eye like I've 970 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 1: been punched in the face. I just give like a 971 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: lazy thumbs up and it ends on my face. I 972 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: can't believe I've never shown you this. I have to 973 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: show you. I think you have to post because it 974 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,359 Speaker 1: was such an insane experience, and I said, I said, 975 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: never again. But this is the part of the story 976 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: that is and this comes back to what you were saying. 977 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: My other friend, Kevin, did not have a negative experience. 978 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,720 Speaker 1: He loved it so much so that he went again. 979 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,280 Speaker 1: He wanted to do because if you go three times 980 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: then you don't have to go handon, then you can 981 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: go by yourself. So he was and only after three times. 982 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to swim with someone on 983 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: your back? So then he goes, get this, He goes 984 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: a second time, he has the experience, he does it. 985 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: They land, the guy goes to him that was on 986 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 1: his back. He goes. Obviously there was no time to 987 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: tell you this. I didn't want to tell you while 988 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: we were in made air, but we had to go 989 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: to the backup shoot the first shoot, Paul, Oh my god, 990 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: And that happens not uncommonly, Okay, it happens to my friend, Okay, right, 991 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 1: and I couldn't have a friend, No, my close friend 992 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 1: Kevin from from high school. I'm really disturbed, Okay, because 993 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: here's the thing. It's like, why are they betting on 994 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: two okay, when when one can go then certainly the 995 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 1: second one can, So why are we doing it at all? 996 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: It's not safe and it's three even enough. Well here's 997 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 1: the thing. It's like then you really sit down and realize, oh, 998 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: one place where not supposed to be midair? Midair. You're 999 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: not supposed to be up there. You're not supposed to 1000 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: be in midair. You're not supposed to be deep diving 1001 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: in the sea. I'm sorry, truly truly scuba diving like 1002 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: like it's even worse, Oh my god, like with the 1003 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 1: air tanks, like like there, what a bad idea to 1004 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: choose to like have your breathing rely on a tank 1005 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: of air and like a series of gizmos and gadgets. 1006 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:33,439 Speaker 1: Once again, gizmas gagets might be the title of It's 1007 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 1: not no no like. I mean, first of all, I 1008 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: have you ever seen like one of the great one 1009 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: of the finest films and frankly like pieces of American drama, 1010 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,839 Speaker 1: Like I think it could have been staged on on 1011 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: the stage open water Water, open Water. I saw the 1012 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: trailer and I was like, I can't get it, and 1013 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: I think open Water because it's so simple. I like, 1014 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: I always like laugh about the idea of like really 1015 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 1: like a really stripped down theatrical production, like you know 1016 00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, like just like like like two stools, 1017 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: like even though they're like like whatever, like but it's 1018 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: like like hinter style maybe like the best. But I 1019 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: think it is like amazing. You can see it? Have you? Do? 1020 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: You know? Open Water? Open Water is the story of 1021 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: a couple that goes on like a vacation trip on 1022 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 1: their honeymoon or something, and they go and they come 1023 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: up and the boat has had to leave because of 1024 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: like some issue or something, and they forgot them. They 1025 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: didn't got them, like there's like a clerical error or 1026 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 1: something on the boat. Again, you don't sign your life away? Yeah, yeah, 1027 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: and the boats like wet clipboard right you? Right? Like 1028 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: how many like life vest you took with you? Oh 1029 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: my god? Why isn't this automated? So they are out 1030 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: in open water and they eventually Stark starts to circle 1031 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: them and spoiler alertly when did this come out? Spoiler 1032 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: his faces it all, But I'm like, no, no, don't 1033 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: tell him. I won't talk because I won't tell you 1034 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: what happens. But like, what happened to you? What happened 1035 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: to you? When? When did this come out. I'm gonna 1036 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: say this is nine years ago. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, 1037 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: at least because I feel like and I actually I 1038 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: showed up Broken Water to which which is not even 1039 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: made by the same people. It's one of those like hey, 1040 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to know. Yeah, it's like just like for 1041 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 1: the love of the game, you know, like they're like 1042 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: we're making an open water. Two is like its own 1043 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: like kind of one or two is like a group 1044 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: of people and the premise is like they're on this 1045 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: yacht and they decided to go swimming outside of the boat. 1046 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: They let the ladder down, they screw up, like the 1047 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: ladder is like up, like so they're stuck outside their 1048 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: own like fancy boat in the in the middle of 1049 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 1: the water, like pitifully like trying to like move up 1050 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: at the slot like the side of their boat. I 1051 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: love Oh my god, that's actually I love it. It's 1052 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: like there's like a dramatic kind of like simple horror. Yes, 1053 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: it's right there. That should have been the first. That's 1054 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: a comment. That's comments. It is a comment. Uh, And 1055 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: there's more to it even like you know, like yeah, 1056 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: there's more about like wealth and like status that comes 1057 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 1: into playing political it's not. It's although it doesn't have 1058 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 1: the simplicity like the couldn't I don't that could be staged. 1059 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 1: It's not about just like basic Yeah, I think I'm 1060 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: human being should just not be not even underwater. They 1061 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,720 Speaker 1: shouldn't be in water. Oh yeah, I believe we should 1062 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:30,760 Speaker 1: be in the shallow water because imagine if we were primitive, 1063 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: which we once were, we need to be there. But no, 1064 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: no deep diving, no real no, no, not no deep 1065 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: not even deep diving. But Matt and I were just 1066 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: at Alcatraz a couple of weeks ago, and they we 1067 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 1: did we did one of the tours where they explained 1068 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: all these attempted escapes, and there's only been one successful 1069 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: escape from Alcatraz where the man like gets out whatever, 1070 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 1: and then genius plans to get plan together involving like 1071 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: taking flaws or some sort of like a stuff every 1072 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: day for seven years, like going at one bar, going 1073 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: at one bar, and then he escapes through like the 1074 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: vents or something. Climbs, climbs up the vents to the roof, 1075 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: crosses over the roof, lands, lands among lands, at the shore. 1076 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: I guess, walks with purpose like he's going somewhere like 1077 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: as if he has the permission right and then and 1078 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: then like they have no way of knowing what the 1079 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 1: conditions are on the water from the from inside in December, 1080 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: in December and San Francisco waves are crashing, crashing, and 1081 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,919 Speaker 1: he has to basically the Tory basically describes in like 1082 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: like amazing detail his swim from the island to the 1083 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: shore in San Francisco. But he has to, like but 1084 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: then just the waves are pushing him towards the sea 1085 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, Georgey squares my targets that miss 1086 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: is that? And then the next target is um, okay, 1087 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 1: get the next another land another, another landmark, what's it 1088 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: called the fucking the fucking military base that's mexical in 1089 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,720 Speaker 1: gate Bridge, just misses every landmark until he basically lands 1090 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: at like right by the Golden gate Bridge, and then 1091 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 1: he immediately gets taken and then he's hypothermic this and 1092 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 1: then he's hypothermic washes up, so he wasn't even dead hypothermic, yeah, 1093 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: and then and then they find him like in a 1094 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: ball and then he was literally that night now brought 1095 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: back to Alcatraz. And so that humaning shouldn't be in 1096 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: water but this is But that was like a fascinating 1097 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: story because they said, like he had literally done this 1098 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,919 Speaker 1: thing that he had worked on for seven years, every 1099 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 1: single day hatching this genius plan to break out of Alcatraz, 1100 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: and then he gets to the cliff and he was like, 1101 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't think I can do this. 1102 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 1: I literally don't think this is possible. And he has 1103 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: to make a decision like, am I going to go 1104 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: back and like possibly even die because they shoot me 1105 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: dead right here and I'm trying to get out and 1106 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 1: I might be a danger to the I didn't know 1107 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: this either. Families that lived on Alcatraz, like the families 1108 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: of guards and the people, so that that was like 1109 00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: and they felt very safe there, or do I literally 1110 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: probably died doing this, but I'd rather have that than 1111 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,879 Speaker 1: be in prison. And he decided to go for it 1112 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 1: and it didn't work. Go for it? So but do 1113 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 1: you think there was a god when people go for it? 1114 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 1: I love people go for it culture number undred and four. 1115 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: It's incredible when people go for it because it's so hard. 1116 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: It's so hard for it. I mean, and he both, 1117 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, he showed grit um like he did the 1118 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: long term right. He was able to do the long 1119 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: term thing and he was able to do the spontaneous 1120 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: like move to not to be Both those guys showed 1121 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: range and one yeah he showed range. He really, when 1122 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: they make a musical of it, the number on the 1123 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: cliff is going to be amazing. Oh that's like should 1124 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 1: I go there? No, I don't know, I hear it. Yes, 1125 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean I'm also seeing the light swirling over javert 1126 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: like it'll be like that, like the dive like is 1127 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:10,919 Speaker 1: done through the lights. Yes, absolutely, you're like amazing, we're 1128 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: thinking in such stagey terms. Yeah, I don't know. I 1129 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: see it as a musical. For some remason, I think 1130 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 1: it is Alcatraz the musical at the musical. Um wait, 1131 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: we have to ask you the question that we ask 1132 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: all yes, And that's just shows how crack a lack 1133 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: in this conversation has been that we are getting there 1134 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: nearly an hour into the discussion. But Jacqueline, what was 1135 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: the culture that made you say culture was for me? Like, 1136 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 1: could have been something in pop culture you experienced as 1137 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: a young and or like you know a movie that 1138 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: you saw maybe even later in life that was like okay, no, 1139 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: actually this like what what did you say is the 1140 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: pop culture that defines Okay, it's really hard to say, 1141 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: but I mean, and I'm probably not the first person 1142 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: to say this, but I would say a good, big 1143 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: one would probably be Greece to g too, not even 1144 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: the first. It's it's the fourt anniversary of it's the 1145 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: first Greek timely for me, you know, for me, I 1146 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: mean Greece. You know, Greece is great, but Greece Too 1147 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 1: is really I mean, it's big for my family, including um, 1148 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: my cousins and and on Thanksgiving, my sister would like 1149 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: usually direct us in a few Greece Too numbers. Um, 1150 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: We're all just really be fans of it. And I 1151 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: do believe that a large part of my personality is 1152 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: perhaps molded up after Stephanie z anony Um and kind 1153 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: of like so like for me, like I feel like 1154 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 1: it gave me something to model myself in high school 1155 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: after okay, which was like yeah, like like yeah, like 1156 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm like these are my friends and whatever, but I'm 1157 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: also like independent, you know what I mean, and like 1158 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to like, um, like hang with who 1159 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: I want when I want, you know what I mean, 1160 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: Like give a brief summer. I think a lot of 1161 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: the children don't fair enough, and also like get in 1162 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: there because it holds up because I have to say, 1163 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't know the plot of Greece. I watched once 1164 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: as a child, and I hated it because it wasn't 1165 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: grease one of course, and and like it's like it's 1166 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 1: lackings are it's you know, like you just have to 1167 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: like let it, like you just have to just just 1168 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: embrace it on its own terms. It's like it's got 1169 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: sort of like there's something like trashy about it, and 1170 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: it's like wonderful. So it's like, um, a couple of 1171 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 1: years later, Um, new kids, except except Frenchy is like back. Shea, 1172 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 1: I guess she's back from she went high school. She 1173 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: So Sandy's cousin Michael Carrington, Um, who's who's like nerdy 1174 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 1: and has an accident and whatever. Okay, like like a 1175 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 1: male centrad So okay, shows up and friend, she's like 1176 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 1: gonna like friend, She's like, I'm gonna show you around 1177 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 1: the same thing, right, and then um, and Michelle Iver 1178 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 1: is already there. Michelle I was a pink lady. It's 1179 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: like senior year. Um, and and there's the other pink 1180 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 1: ladies and it's like things are on the rocks, but 1181 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: she didn't with with like the T Bird like of 1182 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 1: her Johnny, okay, like these are kind of the rocks 1183 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: when she's like kind of like over his like macho 1184 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: like nonsense again and like she's like so cool okay, 1185 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: and like she's like dreaming of a cool rider, which 1186 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 1: is like a wonderful song, which is like I want 1187 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: to see O L R I d R. That's cool, um, 1188 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: you know. And it's it's like like dances around like 1189 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: the empty stage because there's a theater production that plays 1190 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, heavily in and like a big talent. Like 1191 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: they're all everyone in the schools like participating, Like even 1192 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: the T Birds are like of course they're all like 1193 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: one because there's like a prize or something and it's 1194 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 1: like whatever so um so like so Stephanie's and he's 1195 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 1: like kind of like and Stephanie's only strikes up a 1196 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 1: friendship with this very nerdy Michael Karrington who's like doing 1197 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 1: everyone's homework for them, like doing homework for the T Birds, 1198 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, to get money. Oh yeah, it definitely wants 1199 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: to get money too. Well, this big secret hot is coming, okay. 1200 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 1: So he's like he's like doing everyone's homework and like 1201 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 1: getting money, and he's like going, like buysy a beat 1202 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: up motorcycle okay, And because he hears like Stephanie's non 1203 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: me being like I want a rideer that's cool. I 1204 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: want to want more than the boy next door. I 1205 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 1: want hell, I'm wheels. Just give me that, you know, 1206 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: back motorcycle with a man growing out of the seat. 1207 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: And then by night or we'll be wrong cool right, Okay, 1208 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: it's incredible. I'm gonna spotify that. It's so good. And 1209 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: and so he likes he's playing piano for the like 1210 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 1: talent show like whatever. So he hears this and he's 1211 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 1: like I gotta get cool. So he pays the money. 1212 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: He like fixes up the bike, you know, and he 1213 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: like practices in the field and like falls over, but 1214 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: then he gets pretty good, like where's her helmet? And 1215 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: like one night at the bowling alley, okay, we're they're 1216 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: all singing, We're gonna scalp tonight. It's incredible, right, and 1217 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: so like and like um hey Johnny, Johnny goo bull 1218 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: that strike and I just might be a night and 1219 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: then like what's going on because the tea birds are there, 1220 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: the ladies are there, and someone comes up like okay, 1221 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 1: like blows past them and like goes zooming up until 1222 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: like like a car and like and then they start singing, 1223 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 1: who's that guy on that motor cycle? And then Michael 1224 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: on the thing. What would they say if they knew 1225 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 1: it was Michael? Okay? And he's still hid it okay, 1226 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 1: and so they're like, who's that guy? And then like 1227 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: he comes around and like Stephanie's only like gets on 1228 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 1: and like rides through the night with him because she 1229 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: doesn't care who it is. Yeah, he's a cool ride 1230 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 1: and she kisses him with the helmet still on, like 1231 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 1: and so it's like you just see like he drops 1232 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: her off and she's like you know that it's really important, 1233 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 1: and like Michael's like still like tutoring her and like 1234 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: and like but like the way like but there's something 1235 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: about like I honestly it's so cheeseball, but like I 1236 01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, like that's what I'd be, like, like, yes, 1237 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: you can be part of the Pink Ladies but not 1238 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 1: want to be owned like property, Like yeah, yeah. So 1239 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: she does this thing where she's like she's like in 1240 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 1: front of like Johnny, She's like in the bowling reality 1241 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 1: before let me see how this works. I think this 1242 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: is what happened. Like Johnny's like upset and she's like 1243 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: she's like, she's like, I'm gonna I can kiss whoever 1244 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,439 Speaker 1: the you know, yeah, you never know who I want whatever, 1245 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: like kiss the next guy that walks in here. Oh yeah, 1246 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 1: and like john like John's like, oh yeah, go for it. 1247 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 1: And like if this old man walks in, okay and 1248 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 1: everyone's like she was like, she walks over and read 1249 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: that moment Michael, like nerdy Michael comes in, she grabs 1250 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 1: him and was like what and it's like to make 1251 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: a point. Now the great thing but okay, the other 1252 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 1: thing is Keyan agrees to Okay, just give you one 1253 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: more like like flavor to like get you excited. I mean, 1254 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: it's all incredible. It opens with it never called back 1255 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 1: to school, okay, okay, okay, and then you get in 1256 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 1: there and then they're in class and they're learning um 1257 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: about reproduction and stuff full number. It's like production but yeah, 1258 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 1: like but just stay into work. Oh my god, Flowers, 1259 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 1: it's not put your stame into work, but there's stuff 1260 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, that was good. They used like real language. Yeah, yeah, 1261 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: they really do. So it's amazing. And then basically ultimately 1262 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 1: like so that mystery like unfolds and things come to 1263 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: a head at the big like at the big you 1264 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 1: know production that night, and there's like danger and risk 1265 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 1: of death and like, um, but there's the one song 1266 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 1: that sucks. There's one song, you know, there's sometimes like 1267 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 1: one time that sucks. Although, what's the song that sucks 1268 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 1: in regular Greece? Is there one? Wait? I feel like 1269 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 1: there is. Wait, let me think hopelessly devoted to You You 1270 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 1: does not suck. Grease light and it does not suck. 1271 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 1: Summer Nights does not suck. You're the one that I 1272 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: want doesn't not suck. We Go Together does not suck. 1273 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 1: I guess one of those songs maybe no, but it's 1274 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 1: a very strong score. There's one increase too, and like 1275 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: maybe you know, like for me, like the Tango Marine 1276 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 1: and Rent is not I don't like and I'm like 1277 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: always the comedy, the comedy. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, 1278 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: get me away from the comedy. Yeah, yeah, I don't 1279 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: get me back to like forget regret. Yeah, I love 1280 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: that Tango Marine, like I feel guilty like not liking it, 1281 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 1: but like anyway, charades, I just want to put that 1282 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 1: out there. It's called sharade. It's sad. It's like a 1283 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 1: dark Knight of the Soul from Michael where he just 1284 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 1: like you see him moving through the cafeteria getting food 1285 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,919 Speaker 1: and singing like about the charade. That is like it's 1286 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 1: very it's very not good. It should have changed. It's 1287 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: like special, So wait is he? Is it the kind 1288 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,919 Speaker 1: of movie where it's like this person would never ever 1289 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 1: get the attention to these people, but like you're watching 1290 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 1: it and you're like, but he's so hot, you know, 1291 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 1: he's he's very beautiful, and like I forget who the 1292 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 1: actor like is now, Like I can't remember his name 1293 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 1: because it's just like the movie is real to me, 1294 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's absolutely like a handsome man. But 1295 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 1: I in my youth, like because I still always felt 1296 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: like I perceived him as like the nerdy cheeseball, So 1297 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 1: I was like kind of like I was like I 1298 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 1: saw that he was like aesthetically like whatever, fine, but 1299 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 1: like I was still like I'm like he's still cheeseball. 1300 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Into the railed by the romany you buy the presentation 1301 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 1: of like like I guess, like what is it not? 1302 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: She's all that, she's all that. Like when they're like, 1303 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 1: oh yeah her, you're like she's nothing like literally the 1304 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 1: whole trope and not another team movie, which is a 1305 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: brilliant of just like taking off, Like Okay, then that's 1306 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,920 Speaker 1: really ridiculous. Yeah, that's a good movie. None of there's 1307 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 1: no change to him. I mean basically like there's no glasses. 1308 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 1: He may have glasses, but like there's nothing other than 1309 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,919 Speaker 1: putting on the motorycle's and she is. And the nice 1310 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 1: thing is that when she's tutoring, when they're tutoring and 1311 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: he's tutoring her, and he's like he's like like she's 1312 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: like into him, and she's like falling for him in 1313 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: the tutoring setting, So it's not like she's only falling 1314 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: for the cool writer. It's like there's like a flirting there, 1315 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 1: and it's like why are you hanging out with nerds? 1316 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 1: You know, Like she's into she's into his personhood absolutely 1317 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: there you go and she goes like, there's a catchup 1318 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 1: on your burger. Okay, she's got to put burger And 1319 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: I love it. And I feel like that was a 1320 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 1: part of my personal like can I get a can 1321 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 1: I get some catchup from my friend's Hamburger? Please? I 1322 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 1: feel like that it's fed into my heart. And you 1323 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 1: know the way she said Hamburger was probably just like 1324 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 1: that and so iconic realizing right now Greece is it's 1325 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,679 Speaker 1: problematic the fact that she comes in and her leather 1326 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 1: get up at the end and he's like Sandy and 1327 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: then he basically just gets to flip back and dance 1328 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 1: sexy with her and then everything's fine. But like, she 1329 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 1: only earns their respect when she embrace us for like 1330 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 1: sexuality that like, and she conforms to the male gaze 1331 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 1: and she fully does. And also she discovers it in 1332 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 1: one day, which means there's probably got to be some 1333 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: like stuff going on there, Like that's not who she 1334 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: wants to be, that's what you want to her. I 1335 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 1: don't think so agreed. I appreciate that it's like, right, 1336 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: it's a latent sexuality for Sandy, like it's always been there, yes, 1337 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 1: but yes, like the patients having sex with him on 1338 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:16,040 Speaker 1: the beach that summer, right, were they having sex? Is 1339 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: that up for debt or under? She says, they splashed 1340 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: around in the spool. I mean they showed them like 1341 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 1: lying there that like they show visual I mean the movie, like, yeah, 1342 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 1: they do kind of they fade into They definitely discuss 1343 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: at the least heavy petting. Yeah, but I don't think Sandy, 1344 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they were having sex because then he 1345 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: tries to such a boom later and in the car 1346 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,840 Speaker 1: and she's like, oh it figures, it figures into her 1347 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 1: sort of like prudishness, Sandra. Yeah, no totally, but he's 1348 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 1: being like he's been like really hideous to her in 1349 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: the car. It is grotesque that now he's like trying 1350 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 1: to make a move. But yeah, like it is like 1351 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,639 Speaker 1: what like and it's like looks like I like smoked 1352 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 1: figurettes in college like to try to be like you 1353 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: better shape up cool and I'm bringing into my own 1354 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:10,599 Speaker 1: body like like you know, like you it's like, yeah, 1355 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 1: it's it's an issue. It's an issue. But really no 1356 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 1: connection to Grease One, for you know, I Love It 1357 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: Too was the thing that like open all the doors, 1358 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 1: all right, So right in terms of the culture or whatever, 1359 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 1: like yeah, like Grease Too has to be a huge one. 1360 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean we embodied it ourselves. We watched it a 1361 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 1: lot um, you know, but like I would do a 1362 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 1: lot of back to back. No, I was going to 1363 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 1: drop into like a different one, but I should do it, 1364 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 1: like because I was gonna go into like adventures and 1365 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 1: babysitting mine with Beetle Juice was like a big double feature. Yeah, 1366 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 1: beetle Juice. That was. And honestly, do you think that 1367 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,679 Speaker 1: that kind of like like form your sense of humor 1368 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 1: a little bit like that? Possibly, like I do see 1369 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: like Michael Michael Keaton's Beetle Juice. I'm like, I'm like, 1370 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 1: that's got to be a comedic influence. And obviously we 1371 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 1: know why, Okay, I mean, I mean, all right, little 1372 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Mermaid obviously and Ursula like doing like you can easily 1373 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 1: obviously see me doingun fortunate souls like around in the basement, 1374 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then like saying, you know, 1375 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: I was scared of her, though, did you have any 1376 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,519 Speaker 1: fear towards her? I loved her. I think I was 1377 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,600 Speaker 1: scared at the same time as like the thrill of 1378 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 1: embodying her, like her, like humor of her. There is 1379 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 1: a thrill just even this moment. Listeners, let us know 1380 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,759 Speaker 1: if you relate to this. But the moment when Ursula 1381 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,960 Speaker 1: poor unfortunate souls like spins around this plume of smoke 1382 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,519 Speaker 1: and says and sings. It's sad but true. There's like 1383 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,439 Speaker 1: there's such like a like a kinesthetic thing about it, 1384 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 1: which just like moving through I'm like, oh my god, 1385 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 1: that's mind blowing. She is, she's she's. I was never 1386 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 1: scared of her. I was always like, oh that, what 1387 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 1: is that? And then you find out, Oh, it's based 1388 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: on divine and that's why I find comforting. Like I'm like, 1389 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 1: it's like, isn't it sort of sweet? Like I was 1390 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,320 Speaker 1: profoundly influenced by hersel like not knowing like what was being, 1391 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 1: Like the influence that was being like snuck into me. 1392 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of like so like I like, yes, like 1393 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 1: like now I very much appreciated, you know what I mean. 1394 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 1: It's like a trojan force for John Waters stuff. It's like, 1395 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: oh wow, early it planted the like love and it's 1396 01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 1: like there's something you're responding to. Like, so, I mean 1397 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,760 Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. If there had been an inspiration for her, 1398 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,760 Speaker 1: I'd be like, how would you create? How would you have? Ye? 1399 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 1: Like that that would be like genius? Yes, yes, yes, 1400 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 1: you know. I mean I think it was when she 1401 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 1: got very big. Yes, that I'm scared of her, but 1402 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 1: I think I always appreciated poor unfortunate souls. But she's 1403 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:44,280 Speaker 1: that's it's it's funny now, but like for kids, she's scary. Yeah. 1404 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 1: And also I liked that there was like she was 1405 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 1: like a female villain, yes, like because I think that 1406 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,600 Speaker 1: was like there's a lot of she was that she 1407 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:56,559 Speaker 1: was a female villain who used her sexuality and malefic 1408 01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: that never did that that right, because those those are 1409 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: like right, it's a different kind of like icon like 1410 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 1: like Ursula was like heavy, right, and like eating like 1411 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 1: suckling and eating like yeah, those little live like overtly 1412 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 1: sexual yeah yeah, like like and you know, it's sort 1413 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: of like feminine. It's kind of like everything that's shameful 1414 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 1: about femininity and that I feel like it's like I mean, 1415 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 1: which again makes sense, right, but like it's like like 1416 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:28,000 Speaker 1: her like um, her tentacles like floating around her like 1417 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 1: feeding herself, like squeezing the little things and bursting like 1418 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,519 Speaker 1: a little stick or whatever. I never forgot that image. 1419 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,640 Speaker 1: And then the tiny like also like sort of like 1420 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,719 Speaker 1: I mean, were really disturbing it was like the tiny 1421 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 1: peor unfortunate souls that were kept in that. Oh yeah, 1422 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,639 Speaker 1: so sat she had the vanity, she had the boudoir 1423 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 1: or whatever the like and her two like eels. Oh 1424 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:56,599 Speaker 1: my god, it's like that's true. We we would glad 1425 01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,719 Speaker 1: if you want to get the performance going, well, just 1426 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 1: like flop around you. Imagine if you were like brilliantly 1427 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,640 Speaker 1: like like we really did like the stage work that 1428 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 1: was necessary for you to be like to be able 1429 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,639 Speaker 1: to move like just by like manipulating your abdominals, you're 1430 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,160 Speaker 1: completely suited. Like I could do it. I know you could. 1431 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 1: Like all your moves would like almost like trigger like, 1432 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 1: so you'd be on something smooth, you make the subtle 1433 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,719 Speaker 1: like wiggles, but you'd like shoot across the stage. Yes, honestly, 1434 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: we had a friend on the show, Amy Joe Jackson, 1435 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 1: who's played Ursla, and like, yes, and she says that 1436 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 1: to get into the costume is a procedure, but it's 1437 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: necessary to bring the phone. Absolutely, she she she she 1438 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 1: bore it. The whole fantasy bore it. Okay, I think 1439 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,920 Speaker 1: it's time. It might be time. Did I get did 1440 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 1: I say anything? Did I get? You know, we covered 1441 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 1: a large swath of let me tell you something, I 1442 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,920 Speaker 1: think that people and so have you stayed in myself? 1443 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 1: I first stand after greeze To, I think, so yeah, 1444 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 1: I think I'm never going to turn on you know, 1445 01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:01,400 Speaker 1: like I'm like yeah, like actually yeah, like I do 1446 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 1: literally wrong that I'm saying, you can't see a Michellefivor 1447 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 1: performance and not leave being like who the hell is that? 1448 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Even in hair Spray? But also she turns out so 1449 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,960 Speaker 1: many great performances, like she'll take quote unquote take a break. 1450 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,479 Speaker 1: But like even the movies that no one really knows about, 1451 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 1: like this is a movie called Stardust, she's amazing. She 1452 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,639 Speaker 1: plays a witch. Oh no, no, I think I've definitely 1453 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,640 Speaker 1: seen that. It's like a children's high fantasy movie. And 1454 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,760 Speaker 1: there was a movie called White Oleander, which I think more. 1455 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,920 Speaker 1: But she was incredible in that Psycho Um and she 1456 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 1: was so good in that, and like the typical monster 1457 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,719 Speaker 1: mom fair but does it well. And then of course 1458 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 1: you know all her iconic performances. But it really all 1459 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 1: started with was it grease To, which is our first thing? 1460 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,200 Speaker 1: Or was it Scarface? Do we know Scarface definitely came 1461 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,559 Speaker 1: out before Greece too really you think I can't, like, 1462 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,920 Speaker 1: I denifinitely Greece. You came up because I'm like, to me, 1463 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,760 Speaker 1: it's like I've always been confused a Greece because of 1464 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 1: the time period of the thing. And that's gonna like, 1465 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,400 Speaker 1: who's gonna remember like seventy years from now, I'm gonna 1466 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 1: think it was made in the fifties and or whatever. 1467 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 1: And that is always they do such a quote unquote 1468 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 1: good job I feel in evoking the fifties that I'm 1469 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: always like, oh, this is the fifties movie, but it's 1470 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 1: not fully seven and that is part of it. That's 1471 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 1: like part of what's the weird dynamics. Anyway, It's so 1472 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 1: great when you see something just like Nail, like a 1473 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 1: period like I'll say right now, like I think the 1474 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 1: show outside that does it best right now is marvelous. 1475 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 1: Mrs Maisiel. I don't even know how they accomplished what 1476 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 1: they accomplished, but that is like it's fun to time 1477 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,479 Speaker 1: like I mean, it's it's crazy. It's fun to think 1478 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 1: about a period piece that was done like decades ago exactly. Oh, 1479 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 1: this is a this is like a Victorian likes you know, 1480 01:16:55,479 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 1: it's a nineties Victorian it's hilarious sensibility. Yeah, what was 1481 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 1: the way we did like period pieces in the nineties, 1482 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,559 Speaker 1: Like what did we think, like, you know, like there's 1483 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 1: a double refraction. It's like, okay, it's one thing and 1484 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,000 Speaker 1: then another. Anyway, I have have ever seen the Age of 1485 01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:14,240 Speaker 1: Innocence that um, she's incredible and that she's like give 1486 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,799 Speaker 1: that movie so much life and vitality. And I watched 1487 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 1: it in high school and I was like, I hate 1488 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 1: this movie. It's boring, and I really don't. I'm not 1489 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm not a Dawn day Lewis fan. I think he's 1490 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 1: sort of boring when he's not playing wacko hilarious. But 1491 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,759 Speaker 1: but looking back at that movie, I'm like, that movie 1492 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:39,879 Speaker 1: was lush. Looky, there's a full shot. I'm a period piece. Honestly, 1493 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,639 Speaker 1: if I felt I had any real talent like that, 1494 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 1: I would love to. But I know I put on 1495 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 1: the costumers. Well no, just act like a period like 1496 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,639 Speaker 1: to bring out the like. But like, I do think 1497 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 1: there's like a new like look. If I one day 1498 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,519 Speaker 1: director period beast, I will have some like things, which 1499 01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,560 Speaker 1: is like we're not automatically doing a British accent just 1500 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 1: because old timey you know what I mean, And that's 1501 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,120 Speaker 1: so true. We also don't have to like look like 1502 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 1: our skin males will look better than it would have 1503 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 1: looked in the eight D. You're not like, well, actually 1504 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 1: we do. But you other where it's like there could 1505 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,599 Speaker 1: be a way to be where you do it, where 1506 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 1: you like make the adjustments and you're like, yeah, we're 1507 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: not going to talk like I don't know. This is 1508 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,720 Speaker 1: me making up rules for my own work where I 1509 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to do the hard thing. There are nachronisms 1510 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,800 Speaker 1: no matter what. It's like, you know, it's like there 1511 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 1: has there has to be and it's like, you know, 1512 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 1: I was I was watching marian Into out on the plane. 1513 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,320 Speaker 1: I was just going to bring that up and I 1514 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 1: was like, okay, but this still works. It still works 1515 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 1: even though she has like it tells her story, you know, 1516 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Chuck Taylor's or whatever the thought it's just stylized. Yeah, 1517 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 1: does she wear a converse? Okay, they're like going for 1518 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 1: like there's like and the soundtrack is like fully contemporary 1519 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,880 Speaker 1: and like she wears like you know, footwear of that's 1520 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,200 Speaker 1: modern and she like, you know, I think to like 1521 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,679 Speaker 1: she doesn't have an accent, like we're telling the story. 1522 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,519 Speaker 1: She speaks like hairston Dunes the um. But then there 1523 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,680 Speaker 1: was enough Oh what like Shakespeare in Love, you know 1524 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like was that home movie. I'm like 1525 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:05,000 Speaker 1: Shakespeare language Shakespeare, you know, because even it's a good 1526 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 1: one too, because even Shakespeare, because even shakespeare writing was stylized, right, 1527 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,680 Speaker 1: no way, it's not like they all talked in like 1528 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 1: also like Shakespeare. You know what I think is a 1529 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,479 Speaker 1: funny thing to say about Shakespeare. It's like so like 1530 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: whatever I mean, it's very subtle. I mean, it's very 1531 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 1: not I'm overly building up. But I love to do 1532 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,160 Speaker 1: that because I kind of feel like why like trick 1533 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, like what I'm about to say, it's not 1534 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,600 Speaker 1: that interesting, okay, but it's slightly amusing to me. And 1535 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,920 Speaker 1: it's just like it's like a funny I find it 1536 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:41,639 Speaker 1: fun and funny to say Shakespeare is not funny because 1537 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 1: like you know how like I love like you know, 1538 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 1: like how there's like you kind of want to in comedy, 1539 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,760 Speaker 1: like I mean, or in anything, right, like appreciate the classics, 1540 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 1: like look like like Moliere was big for me, you 1541 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's like and you're like 1542 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 1: like you try to read it or something. You're like 1543 01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,719 Speaker 1: You're like, you're like what kind of day? I'm like whatever, 1544 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,720 Speaker 1: like go like those are the things that get Are 1545 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,680 Speaker 1: you saying that you like library sales where I'm like, 1546 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, like my stand up is going to be 1547 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:14,040 Speaker 1: informed by like balls for me? Yeah, yeah, I am 1548 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,120 Speaker 1: an amalgamation of everyone who's come before. I agree with you, 1549 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,719 Speaker 1: Shakespeare is not funny. I took. I took a camp. 1550 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,439 Speaker 1: I took like a week long day camp when I 1551 01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,680 Speaker 1: was in seventh grade where it was like a Shakespeare 1552 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,680 Speaker 1: camp and we just a unit was learning how to 1553 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 1: insult someone with Shakespeare until the dumbest, at least cool 1554 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,600 Speaker 1: thing I've ever encountered. Honestly, I feel it's like I 1555 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 1: feel like it's like asked an answer that I say this, 1556 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 1: all the listeners are gonna be like, yeah, which we know, 1557 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 1: but I don't get Shakespeare, okay, so you know everyone's 1558 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,040 Speaker 1: gonna be like girl, no, no, no. I think the 1559 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 1: people will make up a good point. Flotsam and Jetsam okay, 1560 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 1: I honestly, because it's actually flats of one of them 1561 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 1: was very well read, and Jetson was like the dumb 1562 01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:00,439 Speaker 1: one who like watched Real Housewives. Um, okay, it is time. Now. 1563 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 1: This is our segment on our show where we take 1564 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 1: one minute to reel again something in culture. You may 1565 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:06,599 Speaker 1: know what if you're a listener of this show, it's 1566 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:11,439 Speaker 1: called I don't think so honey, And we very much 1567 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 1: appreciate will this episode come out before after our live show? Okay, well, 1568 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 1: we we love that you came out to our live 1569 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 1: show at the Bellhouse. Then, um, and we had we 1570 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,120 Speaker 1: all had a fabulous time, and we're gonna get you 1571 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,680 Speaker 1: on one of them since yes, because we need it. 1572 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 1: Have it all right, So, um, you have I have one. 1573 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,240 Speaker 1: It's based on a shared experience we just had. Oh 1574 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,000 Speaker 1: I think I have one similar Okay, and it's going 1575 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,839 Speaker 1: to be different, but I can tell it's gonna be different. 1576 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 1: But okay, we'll see. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think, 1577 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,719 Speaker 1: so hony. His time starts now. I don't think so honey. 1578 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,719 Speaker 1: When you go see a play and in the theater 1579 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 1: people are unwrapping food, you have been told it's like crazy. 1580 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 1: And I actually think this is even worse than the 1581 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,639 Speaker 1: cell phones going up, because you can forget that your 1582 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:59,759 Speaker 1: cell phone was on. You can't forget what it sounds 1583 01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,080 Speaker 1: like you're unwrapping a piece of candy. I don't think so, honey. 1584 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,519 Speaker 1: It is so loud, and then guess what you trying 1585 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,679 Speaker 1: to like, do it quieter is making it worse because 1586 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:15,960 Speaker 1: you're elongate. Everyone listening to it, So you need to please, honestly, 1587 01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,000 Speaker 1: if you're watching a player or whether there's gonna be 1588 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,679 Speaker 1: a scene, change unwrapp it quickly. Then I don't think so, honey. 1589 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,679 Speaker 1: If we're in the middle of literally Dina Menzel's last 1590 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:28,200 Speaker 1: monologue in skin Tight, it's your last emotional and I 1591 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,160 Speaker 1: am I am I wrong, someone started opening the gift 1592 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,519 Speaker 1: wrapper and you literally lost ten seconds of what she 1593 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,280 Speaker 1: was saying. I don't think so, honey, opening things during 1594 01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,719 Speaker 1: the thing, I would rather you put set a firework off. 1595 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,680 Speaker 1: And that's one a minute. But here's the thing that 1596 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,799 Speaker 1: you know, what happened during her last monologue was also 1597 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 1: a cell phone coming off there honestly was It was crazy, yes, 1598 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,080 Speaker 1: And here's the thing they obviously we're all concerned about 1599 01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,679 Speaker 1: the cell phones going off during performances like that's something 1600 01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,760 Speaker 1: that they went on for a minute long time. And 1601 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,719 Speaker 1: also there was one of the USh was like running 1602 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 1: up and down the aisle, was trying to find who 1603 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,679 Speaker 1: it was. And it's just like a girl, I can't 1604 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,880 Speaker 1: believe this. Someone went with strict denial, but you don't 1605 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,720 Speaker 1: acknowledge that it's your phone. You're like, no, it can't be. 1606 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,400 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I can't be the assholet no, 1607 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,800 Speaker 1: just turn it off. And also, honestly, honestly, there was 1608 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 1: there was someone right in front of you guys, yeah, 1609 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,720 Speaker 1: right in front of us who was who was unwrapping 1610 01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 1: And I was just like, god, like, I know, I 1611 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:24,839 Speaker 1: feel like I'll feel like a dick being like excuse 1612 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 1: me stop, but like excuse me stop, and it's like 1613 01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 1: it's a rule. And he got the theater, his partner, 1614 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,439 Speaker 1: whoever he was, its chastise and they were like stop unwrapping, 1615 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 1: and then he got louder and he raised. It's like 1616 01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,640 Speaker 1: an indignance. It's like it's like the thing of like 1617 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,519 Speaker 1: when someone is like knows they're wrong, but it can't 1618 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,000 Speaker 1: take it. And honestly, it probably was like a lot 1619 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,559 Speaker 1: of stuffy, older white guys in there, And honestly, that 1620 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,719 Speaker 1: is another thing. It's like I don't think so honey, 1621 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,240 Speaker 1: these people at the theater who are a certain demographic 1622 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,599 Speaker 1: who can't live without their phones being on full fucking 1623 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,000 Speaker 1: volume and blast. It's like, guys, come on, and then 1624 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,960 Speaker 1: you're the one who's telling our generation that we're inappropriate, 1625 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,680 Speaker 1: like you're inappropriately. Seriously, the behavior at the theater by 1626 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,400 Speaker 1: these people and the unwrapping of candy, it is really sick. 1627 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,200 Speaker 1: I know Joe appreciates it because he comes from the theater. 1628 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate this deeply as well. Thankank you. We almost 1629 01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 1: we saw this. We saw for people to be mentioned, 1630 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,200 Speaker 1: we saw skin tight. We well, yes, we saw skin 1631 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,639 Speaker 1: tight roundabout theater company's skin type. It was lovely. I 1632 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 1: loved whenever I see Adina Menzel on stage. I'm like, oh, 1633 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,200 Speaker 1: there's a Dina Menzel, you know what I mean. She 1634 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,800 Speaker 1: is a star. And I'm like, you're like, oh, yeah, 1635 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,240 Speaker 1: she's great. She's a Tony winning yes, and like, honestly, 1636 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,600 Speaker 1: there are so many there's there's like so many like 1637 01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 1: it's a place. It's not a musical. So if you're 1638 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,559 Speaker 1: going to see her, give you Adiana vocals, you're gonna 1639 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,160 Speaker 1: see her ground at Adina acting. And it was fun 1640 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,040 Speaker 1: and it was about like some interesting things. Um, so 1641 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 1: we would recommend seeing skin tight. So Honey is going 1642 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,080 Speaker 1: to be um from the same experience. Wow, And this 1643 01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,559 Speaker 1: is I don't think so honey, and his time starts now. 1644 01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,160 Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey. The a gay gentleman who 1645 01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 1: sat next to me at skin Type, who fucking read 1646 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 1: me when I said when I compared. First of all, 1647 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,559 Speaker 1: I was talking to Manson who came over. We didn't 1648 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,200 Speaker 1: we're not seeing together, but man City came over during intermition. 1649 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 1: They were like, how do you like the show? I 1650 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,440 Speaker 1: was like, I like it. It It reminds me of like um, 1651 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 1: it's like it's like a modernized Neil Simon play. And 1652 01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,439 Speaker 1: then this this fucker had the audacity to butt into 1653 01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,599 Speaker 1: this conversation that he was not a part of, and 1654 01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,840 Speaker 1: he said, well, let's not be too generous, okay, And 1655 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,360 Speaker 1: I was like, ah ha ha fun But then which 1656 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,639 Speaker 1: which isn't even in the issue? Well, I mean one, 1657 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,719 Speaker 1: it is an issue rude. But then during at que 1658 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 1: there's this there's just there's just comedic pattern. There's a 1659 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,560 Speaker 1: callback to like these people like putting on like botox, 1660 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,240 Speaker 1: and it's funny. But then then he goes then he 1661 01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:50,120 Speaker 1: taps my shoulder and says, okay, now it's Neil Simon, 1662 01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,720 Speaker 1: and I go, sir, do not bother me while I 1663 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,719 Speaker 1: am trying to enjoy this play. And so first of all, 1664 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I was right, thank you for acknowledging my correctness. But 1665 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,559 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, that man, And that's one minute. 1666 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 1: You know what, these people they think they run ship 1667 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:07,439 Speaker 1: and they get it. They can get away with all 1668 01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:11,760 Speaker 1: their nonst it. Really this is a delay. I wish 1669 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,400 Speaker 1: we were going to the theod tonight. On this we 1670 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,759 Speaker 1: can show them how eat. Okay, I get being hungry, 1671 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 1: I get wanting snacks, like working into like a cloth bag, 1672 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 1: like figure it out. We're just like, yeah, just literally, 1673 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 1: well you don't need it, right, I'm coming up with 1674 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,439 Speaker 1: the most like if someone cloth bag with a soft like, 1675 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,880 Speaker 1: if you can like sneak soft chocolate in your mouth, 1676 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,200 Speaker 1: go for it. Do that the slow like And I've 1677 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,519 Speaker 1: known the shame and I actually believe in the movie 1678 01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,000 Speaker 1: there and I think, I'm sorry the podcast is over, 1679 01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,200 Speaker 1: but I just want to say one thing, which is 1680 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 1: and I think you'll you'll appreciate. I actually weirdly believe 1681 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 1: that the snacks they sell the movie theater and the 1682 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,680 Speaker 1: noises they create are part of the deal. Yeah, And 1683 01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 1: so it's almost like maybe if it's a silent moment 1684 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,920 Speaker 1: in a quiet place and you go, you know, you 1685 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 1: try to be reasonable with yours or whatever. But I 1686 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,880 Speaker 1: believe that those are all fair game in movies because 1687 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:14,720 Speaker 1: they're part of the movie. The movie going experience is 1688 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:18,400 Speaker 1: different also because you're not paying seventy dollars for a ticket, 1689 01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,120 Speaker 1: like you're in the same room. You're in the same 1690 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If you can hear it, and 1691 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,280 Speaker 1: they can hear and honey, we can all hear. And 1692 01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:28,920 Speaker 1: I think what needs to happen is we need to 1693 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,680 Speaker 1: have a progression where the just the voice coming up 1694 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 1: before the play is not going to be enough. I 1695 01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,760 Speaker 1: think I think an Austra needs to get on stage 1696 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,960 Speaker 1: and be like, Hi, guys, thank you so much for coming. 1697 01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Due to constant issues, we are going to have to 1698 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 1: ask everyone right now to turn off their phone. And 1699 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,960 Speaker 1: this is going to be a reminder at this time 1700 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,320 Speaker 1: that it is not appropriate to unwrap snacks are in 1701 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:54,800 Speaker 1: the part? Can I get a verbal yes? This is 1702 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,800 Speaker 1: what they do at path Mark, I mean not path Mark, 1703 01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:01,120 Speaker 1: Landmark cinemas but for talking and wonderful. Literally a guy 1704 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 1: comes out and says welcome, like absolutely, and zero screen 1705 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 1: policy doesn't matter what you're doing, just you pulling out 1706 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,960 Speaker 1: your phone at all in the light it I think 1707 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,360 Speaker 1: we need to they do. They do a similar thing 1708 01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,559 Speaker 1: in Alamo Draft Pass where after one warning if they 1709 01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 1: will come to you if you pull your screen out 1710 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,000 Speaker 1: and they say please leave. And also I feel like 1711 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,400 Speaker 1: it is yes, yes. And also the thing that they 1712 01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,519 Speaker 1: do sometimes that like Alamo Drafthouse, which I don't think 1713 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 1: is maybe enough or maybe not going about it the 1714 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,479 Speaker 1: right way is they'll have like a funny video before 1715 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,400 Speaker 1: the movie, which is like turn your phone off, like 1716 01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:34,000 Speaker 1: a funny video, like like the Little Evan the Little 1717 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,000 Speaker 1: Red Things are like maybe ruined the movie. Yeah, it's 1718 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,559 Speaker 1: like girl, it's not don't be don't be pressed. I 1719 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:46,679 Speaker 1: don't think it's funny. Girls not show me. I mean 1720 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:48,320 Speaker 1: we can talk about this, like like I'll have to 1721 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,280 Speaker 1: come back to talk about but like are like play 1722 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 1: like in life is about noise in the movie theater 1723 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 1: and talking and how the two of us are going 1724 01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,840 Speaker 1: to handle it, Like we got like a real fight, 1725 01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:01,160 Speaker 1: like like with someone in a lady where Yeah, because 1726 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,880 Speaker 1: I turned around one hundred and eighty degrees to face 1727 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,120 Speaker 1: them when they were like like making like homo pheltic 1728 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,880 Speaker 1: coffin like and like whatever, and I turned around and stared. 1729 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,680 Speaker 1: And then like Chris knows he's not allowed to say 1730 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,920 Speaker 1: anything because because it's like he's too scary. So if 1731 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,760 Speaker 1: he says stuff like it's gonna like trigger a fight. 1732 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,000 Speaker 1: When it comes from it's like, we take it seriously 1733 01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,760 Speaker 1: because we're not going to right. But then when they 1734 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,400 Speaker 1: disrespect me in response, then Chris is like, oh, no, 1735 01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 1: you didn't you know, And then he's like he's like 1736 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,000 Speaker 1: like defending then he launches into defending me. I hadn't 1737 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:38,920 Speaker 1: prepared for that everything anyway, Yeah, honestly, more respect. There 1738 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 1: was one moment where Sydney Washington, my seat made, did 1739 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,120 Speaker 1: speak out in the middle of the play. And it 1740 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,160 Speaker 1: was when the Dina Menzel comes down the stairs on 1741 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:46,880 Speaker 1: like a great dress at the end and she goes, 1742 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 1: Sydney goes, oh, she didn't come to play with these 1743 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:54,640 Speaker 1: others like out loud, and I was like, yeah, that's okay, 1744 01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 1: fair enough, and especially in that fucking audience, like just 1745 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,519 Speaker 1: all like he was out of the window. I' gonna say, 1746 01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:05,439 Speaker 1: a bunch of bridging tunnelers. Honestly, maybe like people who 1747 01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,440 Speaker 1: feel entitled to come in because they up and age. 1748 01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,559 Speaker 1: There you go, I mean not not to that sounds 1749 01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,920 Speaker 1: ages classes. If they're not acting like that, we wouldn't 1750 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,960 Speaker 1: have reason to talk about it. It's unacceptable. Okay, great, Jacqueline, 1751 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,680 Speaker 1: it's time for year. I don't think so, honey. Oh no, 1752 01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm not ready. I totally forgot weight. What do you 1753 01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,240 Speaker 1: think you don't know? I had it and then and 1754 01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:29,519 Speaker 1: then I had three ways. Let me just revisit. Um no, 1755 01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,200 Speaker 1: I've paniced, ground me in something. Just give me the topic. 1756 01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:37,040 Speaker 1: The topic is going to the theater. Alright, Well, I 1757 01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,639 Speaker 1: guess I could do, like, wait, what bothers me in acting? 1758 01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,439 Speaker 1: All right, it's too hard to explain? All right? Let 1759 01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,559 Speaker 1: me think, um yeah, But oftentimes when you think it's 1760 01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,439 Speaker 1: hard to explain, but then you find immediately get going. 1761 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:51,160 Speaker 1: If I were to give you this, I don't think so, honey, Goldilocks, 1762 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:56,479 Speaker 1: not the story, the person who's the person like the 1763 01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:01,240 Speaker 1: girls herself to negative of it. I don't know I 1764 01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,160 Speaker 1: could do. I don't think so, honey. Gina Davis or 1765 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:07,880 Speaker 1: I could do. I don't think so, honey, Marissa tom 1766 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:14,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny. Um, I mean, let 1767 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:18,160 Speaker 1: me try Goldilocks first, Okay, I don't this is this 1768 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,719 Speaker 1: is Jack Lenovac's trouball. I don't think so, honey, topic 1769 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,720 Speaker 1: because she's decided to go into the trouball and this 1770 01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:29,360 Speaker 1: is your topic. Is Goldilocks, not the story the person 1771 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:35,120 Speaker 1: and your time starts now Goldilocks. I don't think so, honey. 1772 01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,599 Speaker 1: I'm tying your nonsense, okay, And I'm tired of, frankly 1773 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:42,400 Speaker 1: hearing about you. Your story doesn't mean anything to me. Sorry, 1774 01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,519 Speaker 1: trying different things that come in different sizes, Like that's 1775 01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:49,320 Speaker 1: not like deeply spiritual or like archetypal in any way, 1776 01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,439 Speaker 1: Like that doesn't deserve to be something that's referenced, like, 1777 01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:54,639 Speaker 1: oh that's the Goldilocks theory. Oh that's the gold luck story. 1778 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,639 Speaker 1: It's like what did you do? You walked into sometimes 1779 01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 1: when they weren't there? Wow, I don't know, Like I 1780 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,000 Speaker 1: don't like that, Like that's shocking, particularly because like they 1781 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,040 Speaker 1: were bears, right, I guess there were bears, And it's like, 1782 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,000 Speaker 1: so who wouldn't be afraid to go into the bears house, 1783 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,400 Speaker 1: like you're safer in there with the bears are outside, exactly, 1784 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,320 Speaker 1: like she didn't do anything courageous. If there's time of 1785 01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,000 Speaker 1: something obnoxious about obviously like her trying all the beds whatever, 1786 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:18,280 Speaker 1: like people. But it's generally the fact that my problem 1787 01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,439 Speaker 1: isn't that. It's not that she's a bit. The problem 1788 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 1: is that she thinks her story is worth telling. It's 1789 01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,760 Speaker 1: not you didn't do it's not it's not worth telling. 1790 01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't think so seconds. I don't think so, honey, 1791 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:33,400 Speaker 1: you're not enough to endure. That's one minute she's told 1792 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,599 Speaker 1: this young girl in the industry Goldilocks, that she's not 1793 01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:40,479 Speaker 1: I mean that was a pretty splendid I don't think so, honey. 1794 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, you suble because I panic this, I 1795 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:54,000 Speaker 1: panic with choices. But that's because guess what, No, it 1796 01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:55,720 Speaker 1: is king and actually this is the I want my 1797 01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,240 Speaker 1: This is gonna be big for me. I need more 1798 01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,200 Speaker 1: things pushed on me, like you like more improvising in 1799 01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:04,599 Speaker 1: your life. But yeah, are just like forced no, no, 1800 01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:06,200 Speaker 1: no one should force you to do something you don't want. 1801 01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,599 Speaker 1: But Jaqueline, if you have an open invitation to send 1802 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:11,000 Speaker 1: us a record, and I don't think so many at 1803 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,479 Speaker 1: any time. Yes, and we'll use it as our segment, 1804 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,120 Speaker 1: which is Voicemamo, which we're always But what about Goldie Lucks? 1805 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:21,759 Speaker 1: It won't be replace right, No, no no, no, no no, Goldilocks 1806 01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:25,439 Speaker 1: is canon for I can't believe that she went in 1807 01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:28,840 Speaker 1: there and tried all the beds. Unbelievable. That's insane because 1808 01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,360 Speaker 1: guess what, you don't know who was in there. It's 1809 01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,160 Speaker 1: just it's insane for you to do. What is that entitled? 1810 01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,680 Speaker 1: She thought? But she thought she was being interesting by 1811 01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,320 Speaker 1: doing it. That's what she told. Someone has done it 1812 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,720 Speaker 1: and gone about her life. But that is the big 1813 01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,320 Speaker 1: story from the life, doesn't seem And also it's a 1814 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,759 Speaker 1: story that we keep telling. Is that an astops fable? 1815 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a stop or if it's 1816 01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 1: the brothers grand whoever. It's like it's only utilized. I'm done, 1817 01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 1: but it's like it's only utilized for this, like for metaphors, 1818 01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,760 Speaker 1: but there it's a meaningless metaphor. It's meaningless. But it 1819 01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,519 Speaker 1: really is really cold. Really, what is the story at 1820 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,760 Speaker 1: the end of it? That we like averages, stay out 1821 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,240 Speaker 1: of things, whatever, it's pushing the status quo. It's pushing 1822 01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:11,160 Speaker 1: the middle. You know what you are. It's forcing assault 1823 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:15,160 Speaker 1: towards the middle, and that makes it very dangerous. Um. 1824 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 1: This has been This is one of our more intellectual episodes. 1825 01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,320 Speaker 1: We dove into culture, we waded through it, and I 1826 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,320 Speaker 1: don't trust me because of the reference to open water 1827 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,360 Speaker 1: again spoiler alert. We branched out into different topics and 1828 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that as a reference to the 1829 01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 1: link tree, but check out Jacklin's link tree on her 1830 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:37,960 Speaker 1: Instagram and also maybe a good title of that would 1831 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,200 Speaker 1: be the link tree tree. Or we've got some other 1832 01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,479 Speaker 1: promote their brand, like when I haven't yet been sure. 1833 01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,559 Speaker 1: If the tree isnt work out, the tree will work. 1834 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,720 Speaker 1: You are originating. You are the pre eminent riffer on 1835 01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,040 Speaker 1: link in bio, which is a lie. Everyone will see 1836 01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,000 Speaker 1: the evidence that it's a lie. I think it's funny 1837 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,800 Speaker 1: thing to stay around the house, around house, around the house. 1838 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,720 Speaker 1: Let's end a song as we always do. Yeah, I 1839 01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:08,840 Speaker 1: want who all right? Where? Not? Oh? L yes? R 1840 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:15,800 Speaker 1: D right baby? Oh, I'm Michelle. You will know me 1841 01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,479 Speaker 1: for more serious fair in the future. I will earn 1842 01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:31,000 Speaker 1: many nominations. Controversially, never whine for this episode of the 1843 01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:37,360 Speaker 1: podcast bye, Thank you, Jacqueline. This has been a Forever 1844 01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:41,840 Speaker 1: Dog production executive produced by Brett Bohum, Joe Cilio, and 1845 01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:46,559 Speaker 1: Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please visit Forever Dog 1846 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:52,000 Speaker 1: Podcasts dot com and subscribe to our shows on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 1847 01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,840 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Keep up with the 1848 01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:58,160 Speaker 1: latest Forever Dog news by following us on Twitter and 1849 01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 1: Instagram at Forever her Dog Team and liking out page 1850 01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:04,040 Speaker 1: on Facebook. M