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Speaker 1: What's happen everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: Monday Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, John.

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Speaker 2: Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: So glad to be with you this evening.

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Speaker 2: We've got a special show for you tonight, n D

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Speaker 2: with O d Yes nd Klu.

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Speaker 3: You know him.

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Speaker 2: He has been with us for about a year now

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Speaker 2: and does a great job on the Texas OG podcast,

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Speaker 2: amongst other things. And he's had a number of great guests.

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Speaker 2: Last week we had Fred Weary, he said, Jonathon Joseph,

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Speaker 2: He's Andre Johnson. On this week, you get a guy

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Speaker 2: that we've been looking to talk to for a long time,

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Speaker 2: Owen Daniels. So this show tonight is Owen Daniels sitting

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Speaker 2: down with n D Kalu and this conversation is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Sit back, relax and joy. Owen Daniels with nd Klu

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Speaker 2: on ND's Texans OG podcast.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back another edition of the OG podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm here with We call him OG. You might know

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Speaker 3: him as Owen Daniels, the best tight end the Houston

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Speaker 3: Texans have seen in their history and just a good

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Speaker 3: overall dude, not just a great football player, but a

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Speaker 3: great man. Thanks again for you. You know what I

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Speaker 3: will say, I appreciate you. Oh that's just real. When

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Speaker 3: I was down the dial doing my own show, I

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Speaker 3: called you. You were there. When I was doing something else,

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Speaker 3: I called you. Showed up. We're doing this podcast, you know,

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Speaker 3: on Texan radio, and you show up. So man, I

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Speaker 3: just appreciate you as a person. Oh man, Well, thank

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Speaker 3: you for saying that. I appreciate you as a person.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you as being a guy I could like, uh,

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Speaker 4: kind of lean on when I was young as far

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Speaker 4: as you you were, you taught me the ropes and

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Speaker 4: but like I could tell that, I could tell you

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Speaker 4: were taking these on me, like like big old Indy,

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Speaker 4: like you could do what he wants to do, whatever

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Speaker 4: he wants to Well, he's teaching me along the way.

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Speaker 4: And just you you were always like one of my

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Speaker 4: favorite favorite teammates in a lot.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you. That feelings mutual, you know what it

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Speaker 3: was When when at that time, I was you know,

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Speaker 3: running scout team and Kopiak said, hey, if you heard

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Speaker 3: that the tight end your cut from the teams, I said,

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Speaker 3: all right, I know, I know who's going to help

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Speaker 3: us get to the promise, Lamb, but uh, now I

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Speaker 3: appreciate you. We're just gonna have some fun and uh

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Speaker 3: and shoot the breeze. You know, we just had the

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Speaker 3: draft here, and you know, we talk about the first

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Speaker 3: like there's value in the later picks. And you're one

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Speaker 3: of those guys, you know, fourth round pick, been to

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Speaker 3: kind of talk about and go back and memory what

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Speaker 3: was your draft day experience? Where were you expecting to

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Speaker 4: Like for you, it was it was way different back then, right,

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Speaker 4: So fortunately it was crazy my Sunday morning, I got up,

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Speaker 4: it was Sean Payton.

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Speaker 4: First pick of the fourth round, ninety eighth pick. And

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Speaker 4: He's like, hey, uh's coach Peyton. We're gonna take you

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Speaker 4: And I was like, actually, actually, the Texans just called.

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Speaker 3: So that is very very cool. All right, So you

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Speaker 3: Especially with the Oilers being gone and you know it's

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Speaker 3: because as you said that, I started thinking again and again,

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Speaker 3: quote unquote Tennessee Titans, but It just felt like they

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Speaker 3: just felt like they got rid of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like, I mean I could, I can't

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Speaker 4: just like that's probably hard to grieve that and then

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Speaker 3: all the defensive linemen were black and we're walking out,

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Speaker 3: and one of us said something like, look at you,

436
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 3: punk Ota, I mean, excuse me, punk offensive lineman under

437
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,199
Speaker 3: the shade. Then Mike Brizel said something to the effect well,

438
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 3: we're not like you people who could run around all

439
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 3: day in the sun. And everybody said, whoa, what do

440
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 3: you mean you people? And when he thought about it,

441
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 3: like his face turned real white. It was I'm talking

442
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 3: about the defensive line. I'm talking about the defensive line.

443
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 3: And everyone who knows Mike knew that's exactly what he meant,

444
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 3: but it just sounded a certain way like we we

445
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 3: used to give him crap all year. Yeah, and it's

446
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 3: because he's such a great guy. But when I think

447
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 3: of the hot sun and Ota always thinking that's so good,

448
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 3: and then I remember right there that is and he

449
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 3: and for those listening, like he literally meant defensive. We

450
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 3: could have all been white and he would have said

451
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 3: the exact same thing as talking about.

452
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Speaker 2: You were listening to the Texas Joji podcast with Indy Koulu.

453
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: His guest this week is Owen Daniels.

454
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Speaker 4: Cool Man, I love like you're saying, Coop. I love

455
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 4: Coop like Coop. Coop knew how to take care of

456
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 4: took care of those older guys.

457
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 5: And I.

458
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 4: Experienced that when I was here in Houston and and

459
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 4: and like he helped me out with that in Baltimore

460
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: when he was there, and then obviously and in Denver.

461
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 4: So he was really the only reason I was able

462
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 4: to play a couple more years outside of Houston. I

463
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 4: think he's vouched for me and my my knee because

464
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 4: I was going to pass any physicals anywhere else. And

465
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 4: I don't even think I realized that at the time.

466
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 4: I was just like, he was like, can he play? Like, yeah,

467
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 4: I could play, and and he trusted me, and so

468
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 4: he was always a guy that from day one seemed

469
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 4: like he trusted me and I'll always have his back

470
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 4: no matter what.

471
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Speaker 3: He's the man I love absolutely same feeling. You won

472
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 3: a super Bowl. Not too many people are walking this earth,

473
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: you know, winning the super Bowl? What was that season like?

474
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 3: Like what part of the season did you know y'all

475
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: were a special team? Like, just kind of talk through that.

476
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 4: I just think that the whole group knew from the

477
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 4: beginning that we had something and we had Like obviously offensively,

478
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 4: that Denver team wasn't as explosive as they were like

479
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 4: a couple of years before that, I think twenty thirteen,

480
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 4: they had set all these crazy records. Right, we just

481
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: didn't have We didn't have that explosiveness. But we knew

482
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Speaker 4: that we could be clutch. And because we had Peyton, right,

483
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 4: we had Peyton and shouts Payton because he learned coach

484
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 4: Kobi X offense in his last year, So it was

485
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 4: like there was I think he was from my experience

486
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 4: the Kobi X offense, Peyton had a lot more freedom

487
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 4: to do whatever he wanted to do. But I think

488
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 4: as far as from Peyton's perspective, it was a lot

489
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 4: lot less than he was what he used to being

490
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 4: able to do. As far as adjusting protections. And there's

491
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 4: a couple times in games where I'd have a route

492
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 4: and this had never happened before any other quarterback. I

493
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 4: had a route and then all of a sudden, Peyton

494
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 4: changed the play and protection like now I gotta stay

495
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 4: in Like wait, what's going on here? Yeah, just just

496
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 4: so he could get a certain throw or whatever he wanted.

497
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 4: But everything was kind of built into Coop's offense, right,

498
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 4: Like all the all the the hots and everything were

499
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 4: kind of built into the foundation of what we did.

500
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Speaker 3: So it was.

501
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 4: Just super unselfish of Peyton to go that route, to

502
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 4: do that, and because I think we knew the defensive

503
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: guys that we had there and just Vaughn and DeMarcus

504
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 4: just unbelievable players. We had really good linebackers brand Marshall

505
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 4: and Dan Travaith and those guys are really really good.

506
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 4: And then the back end was just the no fly zone.

507
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 4: So like Key, even Chris Harris and TJ. Ward and

508
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 4: Daris Stewart just we knew we had right and we

509
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: had We went through adversity that year, like Peyton got hurt.

510
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: Brock Oswaer started. That's the name here that.

511
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: People don't love, but like, listen, listen, listen. I play

512
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 4: with Brock and I love Brock like and people might

513
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 4: people say whatever they want. Like Brock played seven games,

514
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 4: start seven games, and he went five and two and

515
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 4: a lot of times with quarterbacks. It's the coaching that

516
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: you have around it. And he had a fantastic coach

517
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 4: and Greg Nap, all right, p Greg Nap, but like

518
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: he he and Nap was the same guy that was

519
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: here with TJ. Yeats helping him get playoff wins right

520
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 4: and with Shawby and so like, he had really good

521
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 4: coaching and the offense was great for him, and so

522
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 4: he thrived in that and that type of environment. And

523
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 4: our defense was there for us throughout the year, and man,

524
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 4: they showed up in the playoffs.

525
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Speaker 3: We scored.

526
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Speaker 4: We scored twenty points. One game, we scored twenty maybe

527
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Speaker 4: good twenty points again.

528
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Speaker 3: Like we were.

529
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Speaker 4: We were winning games, you know, scoring less than three

530
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: touchdowns a game in the playoffs.

531
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Speaker 3: And I think from the jump with the.

532
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Speaker 4: Coach, coach Phillips and Wade Phillips, he was he was

533
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Speaker 4: in charge of the defense, was the DC at the time,

534
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: and we just had we just had guys that could

535
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 4: get it done and shut down that high power. It

536
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 4: was Carolina was fifteen to one regular season and absolutely

537
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 4: dominated those guys. So I was like they were scoring

538
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: like thirty five a game and that Cam Newton squad

539
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 4: that was a great team. Nextual we played. But uh,

540
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 4: I don't remember a lot of the actual Super Bowl. Honestly,

541
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: it's like a blur to me. I got hit pretty

542
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 4: hard the first play of the game too. Something I

543
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 4: had something to do with that. I like, I tell

544
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I might might halfway joking, halfway serious, but

545
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: I think I got ko at that first play of

546
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 4: the game.

547
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 3: But it was it was I had a nice little

548
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: through route.

549
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 4: And eighteen yard reception to start the game, and but

550
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: I got hit hard from the stafety was like.

551
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: Side of my head.

552
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Speaker 4: And so I don't I don't remember a lot of

553
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: the rest of it, but because I woul usually get

554
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: up and celebrate and I was just kind of walking

555
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: off to the sidelight. But man, that season was just

556
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: like a grind. I remember being such a grind, just

557
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 4: as far as getting to the end of it, because

558
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: it was like we knew we had right and we

559
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 4: we've somehow found a way to get into that one

560
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 4: number one seed had to play New England twice that year.

561
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 4: We got him at home both times. We had him

562
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Speaker 4: at home both times. We had him in the regular

563
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 4: season at home, won in ot and then had him

564
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 4: in the AC Championship. And that's like any any game

565
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: that looked to my careers, like I had a chance

566
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 4: a couple of times to have some man coverage and

567
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 4: and win some cruise situations where they're shutting everyone else down.

568
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 4: And he found me for a couple of touchdowns that game.

569
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 4: But man, the mental grind of that season was was unreal.

570
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 4: So like they released me after that year. You know,

571
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: my knik was in no condition to keep playing.

572
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 5: Uh.

573
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 4: I was getting it drained every Monday. But the mental

574
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 4: ground like, oh my gosh, Like I played all nineteen

575
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: games that year the first time, all sixteen regular seam

576
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 4: games and then the three playoff games. I hadn't played

577
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 4: that in a full season since like two thousand and eight.

578
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 4: So you know, sometimes they sit us that last game

579
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 4: we had the Seeds locked up or whatever, But.

580
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Speaker 3: What a way to go out though. Yeah, you know,

581
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 3: and some of the guys you mentioned along with yourself,

582
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 3: what was that locker room like, oh my god.

583
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, if you remember coach coach Kobe, like you know,

584
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 4: that was so my rookie year and six, that was

585
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 4: his first year as the head coach, right, So the

586
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 4: way he handled things from that spot is obviously going

587
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: to be different than the way he handled things twenty

588
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: fifteen as he evolved as a coach and kind of

589
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: learned things along the way. And I think he's a

590
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 4: little bit more kind of controlling of guy's personalities, Like

591
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 4: we wanted to be like low key early on, but

592
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 4: he just let the guys be who they were.

593
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Speaker 3: And in Denver, that's actually pretty cool for you to see,

594
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: like it was to see someone a first year coach

595
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: and then to see him nine.

596
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: Years later, yeah, that was that was our tenth season together.

597
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: Oh wow. And to see how he's evolved as a

598
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: as a coach. Yeah, I guess you almost have to

599
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: let guys be who they are in today's age.

600
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Speaker 4: I think that was that kind of allowed those guys

601
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: to kind of just be free and play like he

602
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: came in too, and I think he did take some

603
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: stuff from Coach Harball. And I love playing for Coach

604
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 4: Harball in Baltimore, and that's a guy that this, He's like,

605
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 4: we want you to be you, like show your personality. Like, well,

606
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 4: you show your personality. You still do these things right

607
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 4: to represent being a raven or whatever it was, and

608
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 4: but be who you are.

609
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: Be you.

610
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: That's that's why we have you in this room because

611
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: we like you. And so Coop kind of took that

612
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: and use it in Denver because we had personalities all

613
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: over the place. Yeah, you know, so, which was it

614
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: was great to be around. It was awesome to see

615
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: him kind of let guys be who do that, you know,

616
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 4: and because I think it was going to work against him,

617
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: fields are going to try to, you know, hold some

618
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: other guys back.

619
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Speaker 3: So really cool to see.

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Speaker 2: We got more great stuff from this conversation between our

621
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Speaker 2: guy and d klu and his guest on Texans og

622
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Speaker 2: podcast this week.

623
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Speaker 1: Owen Daniels, including in D's.

624
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Speaker 2: Thoughts about John Harbaugh, who Owen Daniels played for in Baltimore.

625
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Speaker 2: podcast with Owen Daniels. When we left the conversation, they

638
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: were discussing a little bit of time in Baltimore and

639
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: what John Harball meant to both guys.

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Speaker 1: One when Andy Klue was an Eagle and when Owen Daniels.

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Speaker 3: What's the raven Harball is funny, That's the cool thing

642
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: about football is like six degrees of separation. So when

643
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: I was in Philly, he was a special teams coach

644
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: now and I knew that he was destined for something

645
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: great because one meeting I'll never forget, he was sitting

646
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Speaker 3: in the defensive meeting room. He was actually just sitting

647
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Speaker 3: by me, just happened to be there, and at that time,

648
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm starting I'm thinking I'm the man's I

649
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: look I'm like, what are you doing in here? You

650
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: and I asked, what are you doing here? And just

651
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: looked at me as all clude, I'm not gonna be

652
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: a special team coach forever. And it was like a

653
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: light ball and I felt dumb. I was like, huh,

654
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: you mean people coaches actually have aspirations to do other thaneah,

655
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: And I was like okay. So I really started watching

656
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: him close and he was always real sharp, but he's

657
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: always reading and a lot of his books didn't have

658
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: anything to do with football, like psychology and the way

659
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: you think things through. And that's when I knew, like, Okay,

660
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: he's gonna be something special. So when he won Super

661
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: Bowls and the success that he's having in Baltimore, I'm

662
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: just not surprised, Like he's preparing for it for a

663
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: long time. Yeah. I mean my experience I was one year.

664
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 4: It was it was it was a unique experience going

665
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: to Baltimore to play for them because we have had

666
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: so many battles over the years. You know, they had

667
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: had the upper hand on most of them, but we

668
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: had a lot of close games we had with playoff

669
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 4: games to put against each other, and so it was

670
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: like a lot of respect back and forth between the

671
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: guys in the locker room. I already knew that I

672
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: had to like face every single week. And then my

673
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: locker's done two dours down from you know, from sugs

674
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: and uh so it was like he'll grind though he

675
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: grinded away. So like we did these things called first

676
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: of all, if we have three hour practice, you're allowed

677
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: to max out three hours.

678
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: Were we were three hours and it wasn't a warm up.

679
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 4: It was you gotta be warmed up, and that clock

680
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: is starting and we're going to practice, right. I mean

681
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: this thing things called double downs, which you know training camps,

682
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: like all right, we're on one field, like we could

683
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 4: be doing seven on seven and then oh i'man l

684
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: I'm doing other stuff or inside run or whatever it was.

685
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: But it was one field, so he had us split

686
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: up so it was like the ones and twos and

687
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: then everyone else on the other field. So you were

688
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: getting double the reps at the same exact time. So

689
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: I remember that, I remember that. I remember that that

690
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: was a grind. But I really loved playing for them.

691
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: Rest the thing that was no rest tough. Uh So

692
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 4: we hated seeing that on the script.

693
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: But but man.

694
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: Other than that, it was a fantastic playing out there

695
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: for him.

696
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: You brought up brock osbother the success you had playing

697
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: with him when he fell on tough times here in Houston.

698
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: Were you surprised? Were you like, that's not the guy

699
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: I played with or was it because he didn't have

700
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: the same supporting cast around him. I was just generally

701
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: surprised just.

702
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: Because just how well he was able to step in

703
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: and some you know, right in the middle of a

704
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: season where it was like, if Brock didn't perform, we

705
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: wouldn't have had a number one seed and it would

706
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: have been a tough, tougher, much tougher road. Right have

707
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 4: New England at home is a little bit different than

708
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 4: going to Foxborough to play. So I was, I was

709
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: surprised and so and I think a lot of that

710
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to I don't know who the guys

711
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: specifically who were here as far as who else he

712
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: was or who was the position coaches were as the

713
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: head coach, which was and it's just like, I don't know,

714
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 4: it was seemed like a rocky situation. And Brock is

715
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: like the nicest guy and he works really hard, and

716
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: my picture of him is like like, hey, he's gonna

717
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: do what he's coached to do, and right there, that's

718
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 4: that's all that's I mean, yeah, I mean he wants

719
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: to succeed. He wasn't like he's not a guy like Okay,

720
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get this this bag and then not care anymore.

721
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: You know.

722
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 4: I think he wanted to keep going with his career.

723
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: He wanted to and it was just I mean, it

724
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: was good timing for him. I guess, having that one

725
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 4: year of experience to play and then shod he can

726
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: do and then unfortunately didn't work out really but.

727
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: Fortunately for his bank account he worked out for Yeah.

728
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: We wish he had didn't. I have to feel so

729
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 4: much hatred.

730
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: You know, And I hope he doesn't care. I've only

731
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 3: I've never met him, but I've only heard great things

732
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 3: about the type of person he is. I will say

733
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: this because I had a chance to do some color commentary.

734
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: So when I watch games, college games, I'm always I

735
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: used to, so I listened of what they're saying, and

736
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: I didn't know he was calling the game, but I

737
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: remember watching it and I remember thinking, huh, whoever this

738
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: color commentary got, he's good. And then the picture shows use.

739
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 3: I'm sure Houston would appreciate me giving it. Hey, if

740
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: you trust me, like, come on, but he's doing I

741
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 3: would not be surprised if he's calling some national NFL

742
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: games in future.

743
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Texas Joji Podcast with Indy Kuu.

744
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: His guest this week is Owen Daniels.

745
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: All Right, I wanted to bring a full circle and

746
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: come back to what's going on now. We've talked about

747
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: players who turn into coaches and how that helps. That's you.

748
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: You're your coaching right now and you're coaching youth guys

749
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 3: who are truly trying to learn. Do you take anything

750
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: from any of the coaches you've had and do you

751
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: find yourself saying some of the things that they said

752
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: to you to your players? Now? Oh?

753
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, I mean I had so, I had one

754
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: position coach for my entire career in the NFL. Yeah,

755
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 4: it was Brian PERRANI coached me every year of my career,

756
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 4: and so he was very detailed orient as far as

757
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: playbook right, as far as like knowing your assignments, and

758
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: because his experience with the game plan that he didn't

759
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 4: play tight end so as far as like technique and

760
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 4: things like that.

761
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: It was.

762
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: Relying upon like okay, watching the older guys, with the

763
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: older guys saying and uh, you know, how how do

764
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: they how are they you know.

765
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: Having success on a player to play basis.

766
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: And because usually tight ends, you're a little bit more

767
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 4: under you're a little undersized compared to these these edge players,

768
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: like I don't even want to call them linebackers or devens,

769
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: the edge players.

770
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: And so.

771
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 4: What I take to my h school kids I coach

772
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 4: is just fundamentals, you know, as far as like keeping

773
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: things as simple as possible, right, that the less you

774
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: got to think about. And like, you know, coach, you

775
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 4: hear coach say, hey, you got to get your hands inside.

776
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: You got to get your hands inside when you're blocking,

777
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 4: right whoever it controls, right, It's like, okay, that is correct,

778
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: that is that is the right thing to say, But

779
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: like how do you do that right? Like why is

780
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: that guy keep lobster army? Why the guy keep having

781
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: his arms outside?

782
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: And why why is that?

783
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 4: It's because you know, you can keep your elbows tight,

784
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 4: you can have inside hands, right, So it's not get

785
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: your hands inside, it's keep your elbs tight. Right, So

786
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: it's the simplicity of that, and then you I I

787
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: I'm still kind of like learning myself as a coach

788
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: because I didn't ever see myself get into coaching ever.

789
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: I didn't know what I wanted to do when I

790
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: was done playing. And the whole transition thing with a

791
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: lot of guys go through is very, very difficult, and

792
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: I struggled with it tremendously and a lot of things

793
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: in my life are kind of happened at all at

794
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: the same time.

795
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 3: And I was able to have a situation where.

796
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: One of our old coaches from here, Everett Coleman, who

797
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: has been at the Concaid School for shoot, he might

798
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: be going on thirty years or at least over there,

799
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 4: which is it is incredible because he looks like he's

800
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: he's like my age, but he was here as assistant

801
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: strength conditioning and we spent four years together here and

802
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 4: he's kind of like a connection to the coaching that

803
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: I had over there because he coaches over there as

804
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: well as the head and strength conditioning of that school.

805
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 4: So shout out to coach e. But yeah, he helped me.

806
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: Get in over there.

807
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 4: And one of my brother was kind of another avenue

808
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: because his boss was very close with the head coach,

809
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 4: acking kid, and so you know, I was looking for

810
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: something and I didn't know what it was. And I

811
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, I can give this a shot because

812
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: it's not like a I'm not jumping into a full

813
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: time thing that's eight hours or ten hours a day.

814
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 4: It's it's this amount of time, and I can, you know,

815
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 4: have football in my life in some capacity.

816
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: I think you know, anyone who.

817
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 4: Stops playing a sport, that's like a loss. You know,

818
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: it's a loss no matter when it happens, and it's

819
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 4: there's a grieving process and it's like you know, you've

820
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 4: done something for so many years of your life and

821
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden not do it. It's it's

822
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 4: very difficult, but finding a way to still like be

823
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 4: involved with the game like I had it. I had

824
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: it within the game, but when I was playing, I

825
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: had to change. I was a quarterback, you know, I

826
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: was a quarterback for two years in college and then

827
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, football is like, no, we got

828
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: you got to you gotta do something different. You got

829
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: to play a different position, and uh god or the

830
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 4: football guys like, yeah, you gotta do something in this game.

831
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: You want to keep playing, you gotta do something different.

832
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: So like, Okay, I love it, I want to play.

833
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: I love be on the field, and so I'm still

834
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 4: on the field. Now it's coaching, you know. I feel

835
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: like I have, you know, to to live a dream

836
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 4: to play in the NFL and to have all that

837
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 4: experience along the way.

838
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: It's like now I almost feel responsible to the can't

839
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: just like be with me.

840
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 4: I wanted to pass that alone to like it's along

841
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 4: the way, Like when you get to college, you learn

842
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: things like man if I only would have known that

843
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: in high school, and you get to the league and

844
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: it's like, man if I only would have known that

845
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 4: in college. And so being able to, you know, pass

846
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 4: some knowledge, John longloai that these kids, hopefully they're listening

847
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 4: a little bit football life, you know. So it's it's

848
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: great for me, and it's great to have some structure

849
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 4: in my life and all those different little things. But yeah,

850
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: coach was great. I'm looking forward to my sixth year

851
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: or so. Yeah, just getting back to the I'm always

852
00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: big fundamentals. Guy's keeping this simple, you know, and then

853
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 4: just what I learned from Coup will work hard in

854
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: practice because football is a practice sport, you know.

855
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: It's when you're young you can kind of like be

856
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: a gamer.

857
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: I guess you could turn on it on Friday nights,

858
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: but like, uh, life in general, I guess I like

859
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: to like kind of apply it all to.

860
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: Like that's kind of how it's always looked at sports.

861
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 4: Sports are hard, so you can like apply it to

862
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 4: your everyday things, right, every day everyday activities, every day interactions.

863
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: And you know, if you're.

864
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 4: Not a stranger to adversity, which is going to happen

865
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 4: all the time in sports, then you won't be so

866
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 4: shook by adversity maybe on a day to day basis,

867
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 4: you know type of things.

868
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: So exactly where I was going with that, but no,

869
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: you've hit so many great points, like even on the

870
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: adversity and like in my day to day life now

871
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: there are times that I have to read like a

872
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: forty page contract because I need to know where to

873
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 3: sign right, and I'm like, I don't want to do this,

874
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: and I find myself saying, you know what, idiot, if

875
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: you can make it through three days when you're with

876
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: the Eagles, you can do this. It's like you kind

877
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: of just tap into what you had to overcome on

878
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: the field. And I mean.

879
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 4: There's so many things like that like are good to

880
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 4: apply and also some things that are not so good

881
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 4: to apply as far as like expectations and things like that,

882
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 4: and like like you know, the performance or like sometimes

883
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: I wish I could go back and like watch the

884
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 4: film you just used to watch it and getting feedback

885
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 4: right away on things, And sometimes I could be work

886
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: against you, so but but yeah, I try to, you know,

887
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 4: pass along the stuff to the young kids that can

888
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: be helpful just you know, obviously on the field, but

889
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: like past that right outside the lines too.

890
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: I love what you said about the hands because I

891
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: always even though I never played tight end, I always

892
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: heard coaches get your hands inside, get your hands inside.

893
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: I never heard anybody say, hey, get your elbows tight.

894
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we can hold when we get our hands aside. Well,

895
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: you know, I can't block indeed without holding him like

896
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hold him.

897
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: I gotta get my hands in there to do it.

898
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: It looks legal, and the only way to do that

899
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: is to have my els tight.

900
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 4: So I like literally put some sometimes I'll put like

901
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: like mini bands around the elbows to keep it like

902
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 4: so they can so they can't ye that and it

903
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: feels weird, but it's obviously an exaggeration of a feeling.

904
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 4: But now just seeing if that that that works out for.

905
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: Him, all right? Last question, do you get a chance,

906
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: because I don't like to assume former players are watching

907
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 3: most of the current games, do you get a chance

908
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: to watch the current team, the current Texans or whatever

909
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: team you follow.

910
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I I watch it closer than I

911
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 4: did when you know, probably my first handful of years

912
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: out of the league. I don't know if it's just

913
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: still part of like a process, the greeting process of

914
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to get too close to this. It

915
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: might sound weird, but it's like it's a real thing.

916
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: I don't want to get too close to the team

917
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: that I played for. Like I don't know, but now

918
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: I feel very you know, I love watching these guys

919
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 4: and they's an exciting group.

920
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 3: And obviously.

921
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 4: With Whey everything, the organization has everything in place right

922
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 4: now with Demico being back, because that's that's my draft

923
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: class buddy, and we spent tons, you know, six seven

924
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: years here together and he's a fantastic guy for this

925
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 4: organization and now it's like he said it really really

926
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: fun to watch. I went to a few games this

927
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 4: past year. I think the most games I've been to.

928
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 4: I went to three games this past year. I don't know,

929
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: it's a lot for me. It's hard. Sometimes we got

930
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: coaches meetings on working Kate on Sundays, so we got

931
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 4: to work around that. But yeah, I love I love

932
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 4: what I see now. It's like Houston's a place like

933
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 4: guys want to come here, right. I think the tight

934
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: end room is fantastic right now with what the guys

935
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: they got, like just what they were able to show

936
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: last year and then in the playoffs. And I know

937
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 4: they had addition to the meeting the meeting room through

938
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: the draft, right they got a guy another guy.

939
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 3: So got to meet Dalton over.

940
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: The weekend at JJ's softball thing for the first time.

941
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 4: So I just hope he keeps playing well. And Brevin

942
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 4: obviously a very very explosive guy to hopefully he keeps

943
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 4: on improving and showing what he can do out there.

944
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: Hear it all the time for people.

945
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: Man, what if you put on with Daniels in this group,

946
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: it would be in a crazy, crazy group.

947
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: Appreciate OD for stopping in with Indy, who does.

948
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: A great job, a great, great job with the Texas

949
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: OG podcast, we get back.

950
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: We'll go around in the NFL.

951
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: A couple of things happening, including say you're Franklin talking

952
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: trash towards your Texans.

953
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: That's next the Texans All Access. We won.

954
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: Final segment of this edition of Texans All Access brought

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959
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: teased earlier that Zier Franklin. If you know who he is, well,

960
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: he's the Colt starting linebacker. He just signed a three

961
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: year extension. He was doing an interview and he was

962
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: asked about the Tennessee Titans and he just said this.

963
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: He was on Chris Long's podcast The green Light, and

964
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: he said, do you have any beef for the Titans?

965
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: Said no, because I already smacked him a couple of times.

966
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: We did not I but anyways, they smacked the Titans

967
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: a couple times. Then he continued, it really is Houston

968
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you.

969
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: I like CJ. Man.

970
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: I support all our young brothers at quarterback, but CJ

971
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: he doesn't set a lot of wild stuff.

972
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: To me and our run ends. He is feeling himself.

973
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: I need to see that boy again.

974
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: Quote unquote, he continued, Well, we were talking and you

975
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 2: know how the Super bowls at Radio Row. He had

976
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: the XM radio right before me, and he was on

977
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: there talking about how he cooked the Colts in both games.

978
00:46:59,480 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: I saw him.

979
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: I pulled him aside and was like, you know, when

980
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: you played Anthony, that was Week two, it was like

981
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: twenty eight to seven in the second quarter, you're kind

982
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: of blowing We were kind of blowing you out.

983
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you threw for three hundred.

984
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: But I was like, that's what you consider it cooking

985
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: with the loss, I mean, congratulations. Then I have to

986
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: remind him as well that he's never beaten Anthony. Anthony

987
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: is Anthony Richardson and Franklin feel himself. He had his podcast.

988
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: He was talking about how great CJ was, But I

989
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: guess he didn't care for CJ too much. More so,

990
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: I hear, here's one piece of advice. If you don't

991
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: like somebody cooking. You stop him, simple as that. All

992
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: you gotta do is just stop him and Nico and

993
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 2: Tank and Diggs and Mixon and Schultz. Yeah, just stop

994
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: all them and you'll be good.

995
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: All right.

996
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for the show. Appreciate so much

997
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: Indie Clue for the work he does. Our guest this week,

998
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: Owen Daniels, who was great. All you've for listening, Well,

999
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: see tomorrow everybody, and as always, go Texans. We'll see

1000
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: tomorrow and as always, go Texans.