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Speaker 1: Well, Richie here we are.

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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, a belated happy birthday to rich Ormberger.

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Speaker 1: Of course has.

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Speaker 2: That difficult birthday for any guy when it's on Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 2: But hopefully your happy Birtime's Day birthday went well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did it, definitely did. We had a

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Speaker 3: neighbor watch the kids so we could do a staycation

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Speaker 3: and actually get some sleep for a change. When you

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Speaker 3: have when you have a couple of kids who are

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Speaker 3: value sleep. So having a couple of meals without having

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Speaker 3: something that they're gonna like and have it thrown at you,

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Speaker 3: it was really really nice, very RESTful, and you know

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Speaker 3: it doesn't sound like because I stepped away from the

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Speaker 3: sports world for a full twenty four hours and then

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Speaker 3: just Red recaps, it didn't seem like I missed very much.

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Speaker 1: No, you didn't.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is obviously We're gonna talk about this

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Speaker 2: new format for the NBA All Star Game later on today,

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Speaker 2: and a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of NBA news to get to.

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Speaker 2: But now we haven't put a rap on the NFL season,

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Speaker 2: and you know we're gonna be talking plenty of NFL

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Speaker 2: football throughout the year. That does not change. This is

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Speaker 2: no knock, you know, John Popmaro, this is gonna be

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Speaker 2: joining us. We're getting ready for spring training games. I'm

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Speaker 2: so excited about that. As you know, Rich, I spend

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Speaker 2: much of my week in Phoenix area. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be heading out as a fan, right, just go out,

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Speaker 2: spring training baseball. Absolutely love it. But the NFL still

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Speaker 2: rules the sports world, and nothing changes, and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have plenty of NFL news to get to. In fact,

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Speaker 2: let's start with a recap of what happened last week.

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Speaker 2: It seems longer ago than just last Sunday, Right, the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl Game which I had predicted that the Eagles

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Speaker 1: I wasn't alone.

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Speaker 2: I mean Bo Benson, of course, he's an Eagles honk.

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Speaker 2: He predicted a double digit victory. I know, Chris had

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Speaker 2: an Eagles victory. You held fast with the Chiefs winning

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Speaker 2: the game, But I mean, in retrospect, Rich going into

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Speaker 2: year long, as they were squeaking out victory after victory.

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Speaker 1: This is the worst nine to.

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Speaker 2: One team ever, worse ten in one team ever, worse

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Speaker 2: eleven and one team ever. We kept saying that in

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Speaker 2: as I sat down to watch this game, all I

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Speaker 2: telling me. The eyeballs have been telling me that the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: who are you know, peaking now playing their best football

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Speaker 1: I just thought the Eagles are a better team.

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Speaker 2: That convinced me that, you know, both teams played to

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Speaker 4: And it worked.

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Speaker 3: And credit to the players, because if you don't put

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Speaker 4: Those type of games won.

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Speaker 3: And so the Philadelphia Eagles defense, especially that front seven,

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Speaker 1: Oh and eight against Mahomes Mahomes three.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I would counter with the absolute no teams

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Speaker 1: So the Egos became.

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Speaker 2: Only the sixth team in Super Bowl history to never

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you can get it done without having

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Speaker 1: On one guy right now, and that is Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: So I was asking all you guys last week, and

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts and his stand amongst quarterbacks in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and statistically speaking, he doesn't compare with Lamar Jackson or

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen or Joe Burrow or you know several other quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you know I asked Bo Benson, mister Eagle,

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Speaker 1: Would you trade him straight up for Justin Herbert? And

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Speaker 1: he goes yes in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm going to ask you because you were in

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts places among current quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL? Or that game did not change anything

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Speaker 3: That game hasn't changed anything in my mind. But that's

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Speaker 3: not a slight to Jalen Hurts. I think it's pretty

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Speaker 3: complimentary to say what I'm about to say about Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 3: He is a top ten quarterback without question, and he's

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Speaker 3: most likely in my top eight. I mean, he is

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about how good that is. Think about

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts is the right guy for Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: That's a key right there. That is the whole thing,

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Speaker 2: We talk about this all the time. Some of the

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Speaker 2: and that is the thing about Jalen Hurts. Is he

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Speaker 2: a better No, Obviously, he can't throw the football like

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Speaker 2: he is the leader of this team. And give him

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Speaker 2: we thought, you know, Sirianni had lost this team. Maybe

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Speaker 2: Sirianni deserves a lot of credit, but I think Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts deserves even more because I believe Jalen Hurts got

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Speaker 3: Here's the quarterbacks who I would put in front of

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Speaker 3: It's Joe Burrow, it's Lamar Jackson, it's Josh Allen, It's

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, even though he just beat Patrick Mahomes in

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Speaker 3: They would be a better team with them than they

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Speaker 3: would be with Jalen Hurts. They have a better skill set,

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Speaker 3: They see more, they can do more in this game

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Speaker 3: just based on that skill set. Now, are they as

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Speaker 3: winning of quarterbacks in certain cases? No, but are they

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Speaker 3: more talented? And in my opinion, if Jalen Hurts was

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Speaker 3: to be in that conversation all of a sudden, Jaden Daniels.

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Speaker 4: I might put him ahead. I might put him ahead

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Speaker 3: He's got to be in that conversation if you take

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Speaker 2: Well again, it's you know, when you're in the court

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Speaker 2: Bart Star won five NFL championships, including the first two

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to the Chiefs, is their dynasty over or

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Speaker 2: In the aftermath of the Eagles domination of the Kansas

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. But the overreaction about the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, really out of the conversation. Seven years as

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hearing that.

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Speaker 1: It is over Andy Reid. Move aside.

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Speaker 2: That is the most ludicrous comment I've ever heard by

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Speaker 1: Would that make any sense to you? Right now? For

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Speaker 2: Fire Andy Reid and bring in someone else as a

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Speaker 2: We need someone to be put in that could actually

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Speaker 4: No, that would be ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: It would be a steep overreaction to what amounts to

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Speaker 4: After trading away Tyreek Hill. They win their.

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Speaker 2: Well wait a second, they won the last two Super

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Speaker 4: That's all on the outside. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: One of your best players, a future Hall of Famer

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Speaker 3: Is this going to be the dynasty that begins to

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Speaker 4: Now? Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: They didn't win the Super Bowl and there has to

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they come on, this is apps absurd and

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Speaker 1: Least for the near future. Let's talk about Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 2: Sure, Okay, his demeanor on that field was completely out

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Speaker 2: And when you see something like that happen on the

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Speaker 2: you can't walk away with that and not say this

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think very much about it at all.

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Speaker 4: No, I think they.

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Speaker 3: Probably still have a top five, if not at least

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Speaker 3: a top ten tight end, which is top third of

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Speaker 3: the NFL in Travis kelcey. And you can win a

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Speaker 3: lot of football games if you have a lot of

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Speaker 3: players of that ilk on your roster.

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Speaker 2: All right, On the other side, I have a proposal

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Speaker 2: as an alternative for Travis kelce But first let's.

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Speaker 1: Find out what is trending right now. Hi, Manci. Hello,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 6: Oh, you know, just dandy. Happy belated birthday, Rich.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much, thank you. Thanks.

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Speaker 6: I am glad to hear you got some sleep. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's good. No, I hear you.

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Speaker 7: I don't have kids, and I love my sleep, so

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Speaker 7: I can't imagine how much.

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Speaker 6: More you love it.

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Speaker 1: I can just having been through the experience it. Rich

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Speaker 1: is going to.

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Speaker 2: Now with three kids less yeah, and in many years

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Speaker 2: of limited sleep, yeah, none. It's really good to have

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Speaker 2: good sleep again. And I have when they become adults.

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Speaker 2: I know, Rich, it seems endless like it just like

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Speaker 2: ground hogs, day day after day after day after day.

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Speaker 2: Eventually it will change. They will sleep and you will sleep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be phenomenal.

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Speaker 6: Yes, So look forward to that, Rich, is what he's saying.

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Speaker 4: Look forward to that.

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Speaker 7: We've got a couple of men's college hoops games going on,

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Speaker 7: and one of them is in overtime, Number fourteen Memphis

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Speaker 7: and Wichita State, which is up Wichita State eighty two

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Speaker 7: to seventy nine with nineteen seconds to go in overtime.

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Speaker 7: Memphis is going to get the ball back here. I

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Speaker 7: know Memphis does have the ball back. I believe here,

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Speaker 7: but we're just not State is up early in then

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Speaker 7: oh halfway through the second half, number twenty Michigan and

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Speaker 7: Ohio State are actually tied at sixty five. In women's

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Speaker 7: college hoops, it has been number seven Yukon all over

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Speaker 7: number four South Carolina this entire game, seventy five forty

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Speaker 7: nine is a score. About seven minutes to go in

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Speaker 7: the game. The Daytona five hundred officially underway. You can

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Speaker 7: catch all the auction on Fox TV. Very early, just

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Speaker 7: eleven laps in. Austin Syndric is in the lead, tight,

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Speaker 7: Dylan is falling back behind. And then in the final

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Speaker 7: round of the Genesis Invitational, Patrick Rogers is officially teed off.

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Speaker 7: He was at the top of the leaderboard eight under par.

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Speaker 7: He is now even through this through his first hole,

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Speaker 7: so still at eight under par. Scottie Scheffler never doubt

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Speaker 7: that man. He is now just three shots back. He

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Speaker 7: is through five holes at five under par. Overall.

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Speaker 6: Okay, back to you guys, All.

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Speaker 1: Right, Monsey, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Great Monsey beligns Superstar, Superstar, Superstar. Once again, we are

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, and we are alive from the tay Iraq.

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Speaker 1: Dot com Studios.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me give you an alternative for Travis

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Speaker 2: kelcey if he is still contemplating, I mean, he's making it.

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Speaker 2: He wants to come back, obviously, he doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: walk off the field a loser. But as we all know,

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Speaker 2: there's no guarantee you're going to walk off the field

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Speaker 2: a winner.

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Speaker 1: That's just no guarantee.

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Speaker 2: And only one team's ever played in four straight Super Bowls,

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Speaker 2: and that would be the Buffalo Bills, who lost all four.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a tough road ahead for the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs because you know that the Ravens and the Bills

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals are all waiting for them down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Chargers as well.

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Speaker 2: But if I look at the landscape from a broadcasting standpoint,

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Speaker 2: the Kelsey Brothers, based on the numbers of their podcast.

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Speaker 6: Rule the World.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey's are hot, Yes, yeah, the Mannings are not.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So you know this alternative broadcast of Monday Night Football

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Speaker 2: with Peyton and Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed this, Rich they weren't

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Speaker 1: even on every week this year. They actually had days

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Speaker 1: where they weren't even onond.

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Speaker 4: That's always been a part of the deal.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's frankly more to do with the

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Speaker 3: commitment on their.

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Speaker 1: Side, exactly my point.

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Speaker 4: In other words, I think Manning.

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Speaker 2: Broadcast it's played its course. I don't know about you, Rich.

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Speaker 2: I remember we were together when it debuted, uh and

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Speaker 2: that first year we were watching, right, it was curious, Oh,

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Speaker 2: how this because a lot of people were actually believing that, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're going to get two of the great quarterbacks breaking

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Speaker 2: down x's and o's. But it's sort of now just

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Speaker 2: you know, they bring on a guest and they talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit, and you're not really watching the game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's sort of like, well, I

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Speaker 2: actually want to watch the gate right, you know, and

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Speaker 2: instead of you know, the bs going on with the

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Speaker 2: Manning brothers and whoever they have on their show, it's

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Speaker 2: when it's course. I mean, I think that the Mannings

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Speaker 2: are out, the Kelsey's are in. How about that? How

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Speaker 2: about if you really want to have an alternative broadcast

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe the Kelsey brothers would be more entertaining

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Speaker 1: than the Manning brothers.

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Speaker 4: Hmm? Do I think they would be more entertaining? I

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Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 1: Entertainment business otherwise, why am I watching?

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If you think the Mannings are entertaining right now, why

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Speaker 2: last time you watched them?

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Speaker 4: I do think they're entertaining.

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Speaker 3: I flip, I flip around, I watch I'm I'm more

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Speaker 3: of a traditionalist when I watch football. I prefer I

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Speaker 3: prefer a normal uh broadcast. However, I will say this,

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Speaker 3: when they have an interesting guest on right where somebody

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Speaker 3: who's going to join in, I'll be like, Oh, wow,

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Speaker 3: that's you know, that's a I Sometimes it's a strange

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Speaker 3: guest that I wouldn't expect to appear on a broadcast,

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Speaker 3: like an actor or a comedian or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Or it's you know, a former coach or a former

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Speaker 3: player who I'm interested in hearing their thoughts about a

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Speaker 3: game that's going on. I'll flip over to the Manning cast.

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Speaker 3: So and by the way, also, I found myself enthralled

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Speaker 3: and entertained at times with the broadcast they do, and

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Speaker 3: the numbers back it up. I mean, they're getting millions

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Speaker 3: of people's tuning in to watch that broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey's we get more.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're hot, the Kelseys are hot, But you're asking

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Speaker 3: a specific question, do I think they would do a

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Speaker 3: better job in the answer is I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea because it is a very specific

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Speaker 3: skill set.

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Speaker 1: Well, aren't they more relatable to the younger demographic?

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Speaker 4: Well you tell me, Steve.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Eli Manning was the last to retire,

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Speaker 3: and what was the year that he finally hung up

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Speaker 3: the football cleats.

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Speaker 1: Well that was twenty nineteen season.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean Travis Kelcey obviously wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 3: do this yet unless he announced his retirement.

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Speaker 4: But you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying I'm giving him an alternatively. I say,

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Speaker 2: all right here, if you retire, along with all the

578
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Speaker 2: other you know, countless promotional opportunities you would get, just

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Speaker 2: like your brother Jason had his first year out of football.

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Speaker 2: We're going to give you and Jason an opportunity because

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Speaker 2: of the huge success of your podcast it's one of

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Speaker 2: the top ten podcasts in the country, an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: replace the Manning brothers by doing whatever you guys want

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Speaker 2: to do as an alternative Monday Night Brobs.

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Speaker 4: Why why replace them? Here's my thought.

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Speaker 3: Since the Manning brothers are successful doing what they do

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Speaker 3: and by the way they have their own production company.

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Speaker 4: That is right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Mannings would go away now and

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Speaker 1: they could do their own stuff.

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Speaker 3: But what if, and this isn't beyond this isn't a

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Speaker 3: leap of logic, especially in today's day and age, Like

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Speaker 3: what happened if Jason and Travis started their own production

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Speaker 3: company and then if they haven't already, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: and then they had a companion broadcast on Monday Night

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Speaker 3: football in the weeks that the Manning brothers didn't broadcast,

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Speaker 3: you know, and.

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Speaker 4: They split up the season.

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Speaker 3: Hey we'll do nine games, you guys do eight games,

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Speaker 3: and then we'll switch next year. And there's always an

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Speaker 3: alternative Monday night broadcast, and sometimes it's the Manning brothers

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Speaker 3: and sometimes it's the Kelsey brothers.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, in this.

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Speaker 3: World now, there has been this explosion of choices for

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Speaker 3: all of us. You can stream any show at any

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Speaker 3: time time. There's I mean a million different streaming services,

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Speaker 3: whether it be for audio or video or both. Like,

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Speaker 3: you have options. And so I think comparison is often

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Speaker 3: the thief of joy. And I think sitting here and

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Speaker 3: comparing Peyton Manning and Eli Manning to Travis and Jason

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Speaker 3: kelce It sort of robs you of the greater point,

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Speaker 3: which is they're all talented people, and they obviously all

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Speaker 3: have an audience, and so why do we need to choose?

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: If Travis Kelcey were to reverse course and make a

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Speaker 2: decision that he is retiring immediately from the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: because I remember when Tyreek Hill ended up in Miami

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Speaker 2: and so well that's the end of Kansas City. Because

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Speaker 2: my reasoning was, you had to pick your poison back

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Speaker 2: in the day. Either we're going to go all in

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Speaker 2: to try to stop or slow down Tyreek Hill, or

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Speaker 2: we're going to try to stop Travis Kelcey. All of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, you take Tyreek Hill out of the equation,

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Speaker 2: you become one dimensional. And the Chief's answer to that

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Speaker 2: was winning back to back Super Bowls. So if they

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Speaker 2: were if he were to retire, yeah, immediately, what kind

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Speaker 2: of impact would that have on the Chiefs?

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Speaker 1: What kind of impact would that have on Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: If Travis Kelcey were to retire.

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Speaker 1: Immediately immediately, I think first.

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Speaker 3: And foremost, his like say he announced his retirement to day,

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Speaker 3: you know, all of a sudden, Travis Kelce's out. I

633
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Speaker 3: think what it would do is it would give the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs a longer off ramp from the Travis Kelcey era

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Speaker 3: and find a way to replace his production. You know,

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Speaker 3: whether it means, hey, we're going to work a trade

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Speaker 3: or we're going to really turn our focus towards tight

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Speaker 3: ends in this upcoming draft. If they feel like there's

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Speaker 3: a suitable replacement somewhere in college football right now who's

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Speaker 3: ready to make the jump to the pros, I think

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Speaker 3: it would be helped, is the way I would answer

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Speaker 3: that question. Because knowledge is power. If you don't have

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Speaker 3: the knowledge of his decision, and I think that's the

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Speaker 3: reason why the Chiefs put him on the clock. They said, hey,

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Speaker 3: you've got a month to decide. We need an answer

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Speaker 3: by mid March, which I believe is the start of

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Speaker 3: the new league year, whether or not you're going to

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Speaker 3: be part of this team. And there may be some

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Speaker 3: incentives also tied to his contract if he is on

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Speaker 3: the roster after March fourteenth, So that could be the

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Speaker 3: reason why they made that a deadline as well. But

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Speaker 3: I think it's only fair for Travis Kelcey to make

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Speaker 3: that decision sooner rather than later. But also I think

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Speaker 3: it's fair for the Chiefs to give him some time

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Speaker 3: to muld the decision. And so I imagine shortly after

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl they sat down with Travis or called

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Speaker 3: him and said, Hey, this is what we're thinking. We

658
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Speaker 3: understand you're in a really unique situation where you can

659
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Speaker 3: play and we would love you to play, or you

660
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Speaker 3: can retire and you'd retire a Hall of Famer. It's

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Speaker 3: up to you. We're gonna give you until the fourteenth

662
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Speaker 3: of March. Please please please get back to us before then. Travis,

663
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Speaker 3: thanks so much, and he obliged because I think they

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Speaker 3: have a good working relationship. So to answer your question,

665
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Speaker 3: if I didn't already, I think what would happen in

666
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Speaker 3: the immediate aftermath of Travis Kelcey retiring would be the

667
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Speaker 3: Chiefs would get to work finding a way to replace

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Speaker 3: a Hall of Famers production, which is a tall task.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck, And I always the reason I asked

670
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: that is I remember this after the twenty eighth season.

671
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: A twenty eighteen season when New England beat the Rams,

672
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: who win their third Super Bowl in five years. Gwank

673
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: retired the next year without him, the Patriots are one

674
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Speaker 2: and done in the playoffs, and then a year after

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Speaker 2: that he reunites with Tom Brady and Tampa and they

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think that we can.

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00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: Always talk about quarterbacks and wide receivers, but when you

679
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Speaker 2: have a quarterback and a special tight end.

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Speaker 1: That's your safety guy.

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00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean there there is that connection.

682
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Speaker 1: I've seen it time and time again.

683
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Speaker 2: When great quarterbacks have an elite tight end, it's like that.

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Speaker 2: It's like that blanket, that safety blanket. Uh, and now

685
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they're gone. It can make a

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Speaker 2: big difference.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we got another quarterback

689
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Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about, and he is far

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Speaker 2: removed from any Super Bowl competition or conversation.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Steve Harbin and

693
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: Rich Honberger.

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Speaker 1: Here Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We are live from the Tyraq dot Com studios. Got

696
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: the Daytona five hundred rain delay happens almost every year.

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00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: I cover that two years in a row, was pouring

698
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: rainbow times I was there, and then we got the

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Speaker 2: NBA All Star Games.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that a little bit. Later on in

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Speaker 1: the show. Oh so John Balm morose, Rich, it's going

702
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: to be joining us later? Is that right?

703
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Speaker 2: I hear JP is going to be a Ritchie. Hello, Rich, Yeah,

704
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 2: they don't know where she is. Okay, Well that's okay. Uh.

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Speaker 8: He just texted me he's got trouble with the comrades,

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Speaker 8: So try to get him back here pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: All right, very very good.

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Speaker 2: Well, the guy that I was I'm going to talk

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Speaker 2: about with Rich is a guy that we're sort of

710
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Speaker 2: waiting on, and that is Aaron Rodgers, who, according to

711
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: reports now and this probably is a little overplayed, but

712
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Speaker 2: you know, was begging the Jets to keep him around.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about begging.

714
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Speaker 1: But we did say this.

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Speaker 2: As soon as the season ended, Aaron Glenn obviously hired

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Speaker 2: as a new coach. They're, you know, they try to

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Speaker 2: get back on track, the Jets. So they're not going

718
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Speaker 2: to sit around and wait for Aaron Rodgers to you know,

719
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: all spring, all summer, you know, in September and finally

720
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Speaker 2: say yeah, I'm ready to play.

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Speaker 1: That was never going to happen.

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00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: Jets needed an immediate answer on the future of Aaron Rodgers,

723
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Speaker 2: and then they pretty much made up their own mind

724
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Speaker 2: about Aaron Rodgers, and I think it was the right

725
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: decision that we need to clean the slate and move

726
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 2: on and go in a different direction. I don't know

727
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Speaker 2: how it's going to work for the Jets, but at

728
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: least it makes sense moving forward. I'll tell you what

729
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense moving forward if you're Aaron Rodgers is

730
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Speaker 2: to sign on with a team that has no hope

731
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Speaker 2: of winning a Super Bowl. When you think about it,

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Speaker 2: when Aaron Rodgers left Green Bay and ended up with

733
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Speaker 2: the Jets, at the time, it made some sense. The

734
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Speaker 2: Jets were deemed to have one of the better defenses

735
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Speaker 2: in the NFL, and they had some young, skilled players

736
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Speaker 2: that were promising, and all you really needed was a quarterback.

737
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Speaker 2: And now you're going to bring in a quarterback that

738
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Speaker 2: was just two years removed from being the league's MVP.

739
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Speaker 2: So on paper, it made a lot of sense. And

740
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Speaker 2: then unfortunately, very first game, four plays into the season,

741
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Speaker 2: blown Achilles. Aaron Rodgers is out, and I think time

742
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Speaker 2: passed Aaron Rodgers by and what we saw a year

743
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Speaker 2: ago wasn't working. But if you're Aaron Rodgers and the

744
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Speaker 2: only reason that you played for the Jets was the

745
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Speaker 2: opportunity to get back to the Super Bowl, which at

746
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Speaker 2: the time it was possible. Right, A lot of people

747
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: out there were predicting, Oh, yeah, with Aaron Rodgers, the

748
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: Jets are very much in the super Bowl. Conversation seems

749
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Speaker 2: crazy now because obviously they're not.

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Speaker 1: But why would Aaron Rodgers, let's say, sign on with

751
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Speaker 1: the Raiders. It doesn't make any sense.

752
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: If the only reason he still wants to play is

753
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Speaker 2: to win another Super Bowl or at least have an

754
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: opportunity to get back to the Big Game. If it's

755
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: just that, well, I can make another twenty thirty million dollars. Okay,

756
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: well that's fine, but just say it.

757
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: Just just come clean, right.

758
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: The reason I'm extending my career is is that nobody

759
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: can pay me the kind of money I can make

760
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: being a starting quarterback in the NFL. That is an

761
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: honest answer, and that would be the only reason I'm

762
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Speaker 2: hoping that Aaron Rodgers decides that it is over. Oh

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Speaker 2: we only have a few seconds here, Rich, So you've

764
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Speaker 2: heard my dietribe here about Aaron Rodgers. And again I

765
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: got the whole Jets thing. At the time, it appeared

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Speaker 2: the Jets could be a serious contender with a quality

767
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Speaker 2: quarterback like Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: But why would he sign with the Raider?

769
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Speaker 2: Why would he sign with any team just to pick

770
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Speaker 2: up a paycheck? Wouldn't be going the opposite of why

771
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: he said it. He wanted to extend his career, which

772
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Speaker 2: was to have an opportunity to win another Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think he looked at the Jets roster when he

775
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Speaker 3: originally asked for his trade from Green Bay and said,

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Speaker 3: this team's ready to win. They had a top ten

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Speaker 3: defense and they had a great offense, and they needed

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Speaker 3: a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We'll hold it right there, hold it right there. We'll

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Speaker 2: get more on that coming up. Plus the NBA All

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Speaker 2: Star Games. This is Fox Sports Sunday, all right, rolling

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Speaker 2: two major events in sports today. One is the NBA

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Speaker 2: All Star Games. We'll get to that new format in

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Speaker 2: a moment, and also the Daytona five hundred. You know,

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Speaker 2: NASCAR is the only sport whose biggest event is the

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Speaker 2: first event of the year. So imagine the NFL starting

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Speaker 2: the season with the Super Bowl and then playing the

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Speaker 2: rest of the schedule.

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Speaker 1: That's how NASCAR has always done it. So their marquee.

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Speaker 2: Event, the Daytona five hundred, is the first event of

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Speaker 2: the year, which is an interesting way to play it.

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Speaker 3: It's like the way I would equate it is Opening

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Speaker 3: Day in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 4: Is a big deal to a lot of sports fans because.

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Speaker 3: Where it's slated, obviously, is in a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a dead zone in terms of sports and sports interest,

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Speaker 3: and so it's really nice to have an excuse to

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Speaker 3: get out to an arena, stadium, or in this case,

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Speaker 3: a ballpark. With NASCAR, it's not shocking that their biggest

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Speaker 3: race is the first of the year, but it is

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Speaker 3: kind of an interesting way to propel you into a season,

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Speaker 3: and you know where they're going to run almost twenty races.

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Speaker 3: To have the one with the most acclaim happen first

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Speaker 3: is a little odd.

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Speaker 4: But yeah.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing about the Daytona running into the same

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Speaker 3: weekend as the All Star Game. I really I struggle

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Speaker 3: with this because, like obviously, there's a lot of auto

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Speaker 3: racing fans out there. It's not a niche that I

816
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: ever paid close enough attention to speak intelligently about.

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00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: But I certainly have.

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00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 3: Paid attention to pro basketball closely over my entire life.

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Speaker 3: If you ask me what I'd be more interested in

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00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: watching today the Daytona knowing nothing about auto racing really

821
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: other than how it works, you know, or basketball because

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Speaker 3: All Star games are on, I would tell you that Daytona.

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00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Because All Star Game. It's lost me completely. It has

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Speaker 3: no bearing on my life whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: All Right, well, I'm going to try to break it

827
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Speaker 2: down why you might be interested in the new format.

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Speaker 2: But I'm going to say that for a moment here,

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Speaker 2: as far as Daytona's concerned, I had the good fortune

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Speaker 2: of being there in both two thousand and nine and

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Speaker 2: twenty ten when Chris Myers and I were doing our

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00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: national show together. Of course, Chris so with NASCAR, He's

833
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: been leading the Fox coverage for decades now. As far

834
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: as NASCAR is concerned, I will say this, when you

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Speaker 2: look at the track in Daytona and it's it's an

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Speaker 2: insane event. I mean, you do right, thousands and you

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Speaker 2: got all these campers there. It's an unbelievable scene at

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00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: the Daytona five hundred. But you never really get the

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Speaker 2: perspective of the incline of that track. I mean it's

840
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Speaker 2: unreal the banking, Like literally, Rich, if you were at

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Speaker 2: the base of the track, you would not be able

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Speaker 2: to climb up that track.

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Speaker 4: I've been.

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Speaker 2: It's such an incline that it's there's no way without

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Speaker 2: putting your hands.

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Speaker 1: On the ground that you could walk up. It is insane.

847
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: I've been at Brickyard in Indianapolis and.

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Speaker 1: It's more than way more than that.

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Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is like, even if it's steeper,

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Speaker 3: it's the same effect where you're you're looking at and

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00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 3: you're like, how do these cars even stay on the road.

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00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they've got to.

853
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: Be doing speeds in act of one hundred miles an

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Speaker 3: hour just to make that term without falling inward back

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Speaker 3: toward the middle of the track.

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00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 4: It's really really steep.

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Speaker 1: You can't see it well.

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00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: It's sort of like the undulation of the greens, like

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00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: when you watch The Masters. Yep, you know the greens

860
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: look you know, on TV fairly flat. And then you actually,

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00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: when people will talk about this at Augusta National, there

862
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: is no flat outside of the T box. There's no

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Speaker 2: flat spot on the entire course, not in the fair ways,

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Speaker 2: not on the greens. It's no flat. But you can't

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Speaker 2: see that on TV. It's crazy stuff.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back because you were just embarking

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Speaker 2: on your conversation about Aaron Rodgers the point I'm making

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Speaker 2: about Aaron Rodgers and his future in the NFL, And

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Speaker 2: yesterday I was talking to Adam Kaplan. I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: two teams that potentially might have been a spot for

872
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: him would have been the forty nine Ers if they

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Speaker 2: didn't buy into Brock Party, or maybe the Vikings if

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Speaker 2: they didn't buy into Sam Darnold. But appears Rock Party

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Speaker 2: will be back, and the Vikings seemingly do want Sam

876
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 2: Darnold will return. Those are teams that you know would

877
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: definitely be in the conversation of a possible run to

878
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. But the Raiders, I mean some of

879
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: these teams that people are talking about, why would Aaron

880
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: Rodgers do that? Outside of well, it's a paid.

881
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: Check, yeah, why would he do it? Let's put it

882
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: this way, if Aaron Rodgers has enough self confidence and

883
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: trust in his abilities. We've seen this before where a

884
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 3: team looks pretty desperate and then all of a sudden

885
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: they renovate the roster a little bit, they get a

886
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: competent quarterback and things start to improve or they dramatically improve.

887
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: We've seen that before, and we've seen it with veteran quarterbacks.

888
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: It's not unprecedented in the NFL now in terms of

889
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers doing it at this stage in his career

890
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: with the Las Vegas Raiders or any team Frankly, who's

891
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: in that range where you know they're low on the

892
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: list of making a run into the playoffs or even

893
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: making a deep run into the playoffs.

894
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he would be very interested in that.

895
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: How about the Steelers.

896
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 4: The Steelers are interesting from this standpoint. It's a consistent.

897
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: Culture with a winning philosophy and a head coach who

898
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: has led this team to a five hundred plus or

899
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: excuse me, a plus five hundred season every year of

900
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: his coaching career. So you can guarantee at least that's

901
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: the line right. Hold that line right, and then what

902
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: can I add to it? If Aaron Rodgers thinks that

903
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 3: he can add enough to get them over the top

904
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: and endto the playoffs and maybe win a couple of

905
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: games for a change here, because recent history reflects that

906
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: the Steelers struggle even if they get to the playoffs

907
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: to win a game, then yeah, the Steelers could be

908
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: an option. Here's the funny thing about Aaron Rodgers, though,

909
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: I don't think.

910
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: He is just going to be.

911
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: What's the word satisfied with just any team or any situation.

912
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if the steel are going to be

913
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: an attractive enough option. I don't know if the Raiders

914
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: are going to be. I'm curious if he doesn't take

915
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: a year and like almost like a gap year like

916
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: we've seen other.

917
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: Take another year off.

918
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, come on, now, then that he's done, Richie,

919
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: you keep hanging on to this delusion that somehow Aaron

920
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: Rodgers is still an upper echelon quarterback.

921
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 4: He is not. Oh I didn't say that he is.

922
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: He could take off another year and then return at

923
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 2: age forty three.

924
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: I'm saying this.

925
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: I'm saying if there isn't a good enough option out

926
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: there for Aaron Rodgers to take, I mean, look at

927
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco. That guy came off of the couch and

928
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 3: he helped lead Brown's team into a playoff win.

929
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: Well how about this month yesterday?

930
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: My point is like, if Aaron Rodgers is on the

931
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: couch and he gets a phone call from a team

932
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 3: who right, she said.

933
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know be Joe Flacco. Yeah, that would I

934
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: would agree. That would make some sense. By the way,

935
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 2: be sure to check out Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel

936
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: a ton of your great videos many of our Fox

937
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: Sports Radio shows.

938
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: Just sertch Fox Sports Radio on YouTube.

939
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: You can see a whole bunch of video highlights from

940
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: our shows and then subscribe so you can always have

941
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 2: instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube.

942
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm watching NBA coverage right now. They

943
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: have this annual Retired Players Association luncheon. Ernie you know,

944
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: does the m scene and they're parading out some of

945
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: the legends of the game. They had Oscar robertson on.

946
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: They have Rick Barry talking right now. They also had

947
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: an immemorium, you know, legendary basketball figures that have passed

948
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: away in the last year and the last two they

949
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: showed just hit me like a ton of bricks. Bill

950
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: Walton and Jerry West. I mean it's just these are

951
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: people I knew. I mean, in Jerry West situation, completely idolized.

952
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: I mean he was my He was my number one

953
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: sports idol growing up as a kid because basketball was

954
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 2: a sport I played best as a kid, and I

955
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: idolized Jerry West, who was the biggest start of the league.

956
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: I mean they had Wilt, they had Gayil Goodrich, they

957
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: had all these great players, but Jerry was the guy.

958
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: And then of course Bill Walten No.

959
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: I hated when he was at UCLA, just hated, but

960
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: then obviously got to know Bill over the years and

961
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: absolutely fell in love with this man.

962
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, just it's always tough, those immemoriams.

963
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: This sort of reminds you as you get older, especially

964
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: you're just the people you grew up with, and you know.

965
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: Rich, I hate to tell you, you're.

966
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: Pushing level four. Yeah, you're getting close closed in. Does

967
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: that even set in with you, like, you know, as

968
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: you get a little bit older, just remember this when

969
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: you were in high school, right, because you just had

970
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: your thirty ninth birthday. So you're you're in high school

971
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: and you're introduced to a thirty nine year old. Uh huh,

972
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: they might as well will have been a hundred right.

973
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 3: Oh dude, I just spoke to a middle school kid

974
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: who my wife asked him to guess my age because

975
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: he's a buddy of one of my son's friend's neighbor whatever,

976
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 3: and he goes a fifty five idiot.

977
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't matter.

978
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: Like when you're a kid. Yeh, everyone's old. Anybody older

979
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 3: than you is old.

980
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: You know.

981
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: So it's but listen, I hear what you're saying, and

982
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: I think it's a part of every sports fan's life.

983
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 4: At a certain point you get a little.

984
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: Misty eyed about absolutely yesteryear and the pros and the

985
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: greats from your time as a kid, and that's your era.

986
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: I mean, there will be a time, and I don't

987
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: think soon, but like where Michael Jordan fans are going

988
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 3: to mourn a great loss, you know it's going to be,

989
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, unfortunately, tragically many Laker fans and

990
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant fans suffered that loss and mourn that loss

991
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 3: a lot sooner than is really necessary or fair. But

992
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: but yeah, like it's it's kind of it's kind of

993
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: a thing, like there's seasons of sports, and as these

994
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: seasons pass, I think we take for granted, uh maybe

995
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 3: some of the greatness that we've gotten to observe over

996
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 3: the over the past years. Because the beautiful thing about

997
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 3: sports is you can remember the greats or you could

998
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: wrap your arms around the current greats, because you know,

999
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: all records are made to be shattered. You know, all

1000
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 3: championships are made to be you know, one by you know,

1001
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: a new up and comer.

1002
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: You know, dynasties are challenged.

1003
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: Everything has challenged because we don't nothing's predictable in sports.

1004
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: Here here's the here's the amazing thing.

1005
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: As as mournful as I am with the passing, the

1006
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: legends I grew up with tuup basketball's greatest legends whose

1007
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: careers precede me watching NBA basketball, are still very much alive.

1008
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: Bob Coosey is ninety six years old. Yeah, and Bob Bettett,

1009
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: the first man to get to twenty thousand career votes,

1010
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: is ninety two years old. So God bless them, God

1011
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: bless them. Two of the earliest superstars, I mean superstars

1012
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: of the NBA, the first two NBA players to both

1013
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: make First Team All NBA ten times in their career.

1014
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: That's when they still alive.

1015
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: They shot foul shots underhand into peach baskets, and they

1016
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 3: all wore linen suits and.

1017
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: Bowler hat is what they did back in the day.

1018
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: It's a much different game, all right. Coming up on

1019
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: the other side, all right, let's try to make some

1020
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: sense of this new All Star game format. I'm gonna

1021
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: explain it to Rich because he he sort of already

1022
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: dismissed it without really understanding. I think what's at stake

1023
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: today and whether it's gonna work or not, we'll find out.

1024
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: But we're going to try to explain what they'll do

1025
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: as the new format for the NBA All Star now games.

1026
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday.

1027
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: Steve Harman and or Rich Armbager, Fox Sports Sunday. We

1028
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 2: are live from the tire Raq dot Com studios. All right,

1029
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: let me preface by saying that it is sad for

1030
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 2: someone that remembers when the NBA All Star Game actually

1031
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: was a legitimate game where the best players on the

1032
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: planet actually tested each other to see how great they

1033
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: were against the other great players. I mean that to

1034
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 2: me alone should be enough incentive, right, I mean, you're

1035
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: one of the obviously elite players in the league, and

1036
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: now you're going to be on the court with all

1037
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: the best players.

1038
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: In the league. This was big for Kobe.

1039
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: There's a reason why Kobe was a four time All

1040
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: Star Game MVP because he welcomed the challenge of being

1041
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 2: great going against the best. You didn't have to convince

1042
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant to show up and play one hundred percent.

1043
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: He just didn't.

1044
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it was as he just said, Look, this

1045
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: is like a dream for me that I get to

1046
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: be on the court for one game. I know it

1047
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 2: doesn't count the standings. Ultimately, winning championships is what I'm

1048
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: looking at, but for one game, I get to test

1049
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: myself against the absolute best in the NBA. So he

1050
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: didn't need any kind of hocus pocus incentive to play

1051
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: well or play one hundred percent on the big stage

1052
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: of the.

1053
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: All Star Game. But those days agne.

1054
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: So here's the format Rich and I want to get

1055
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 2: before we get into your thoughts on watching this. Here's

1056
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: the basic format. So you picked the same number of

1057
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: All Stars. There were twenty four All Stars, twelve out

1058
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: of the East, twelve out of the West.

1059
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: That did not change.

1060
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: And then, as you know, what we did in recent

1061
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: years is the top vote getter, which usually was Lebron

1062
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: in the West and Giannis in the East, would then

1063
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: pick from either side, right, they would be sort of

1064
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: the honorary captains, and that way you sort of mix

1065
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: the best of West and East on both sides. That

1066
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: was a gimmick that really didn't get a lot of

1067
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: traction because the games were not really played legitimately.

1068
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: So what they.

1069
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: Decided to do was this, We're going to have now

1070
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: four teams. We're going to divide up the twenty four

1071
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 2: players into three teams of eight, and then another team

1072
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 2: of eight is made of the future stars.

1073
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: That's right, So these guys aren't even All.

1074
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 2: Stars, but they're rising star rising stars, yes, they hope, okay.

1075
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: So and then when they picked the teams, it was

1076
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: done systematically. So you have Shack as the honorary captain

1077
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: of what is called the old team. So it's the

1078
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: All Stars that were selected that are the oldest All Stars.

1079
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 2: So that's like Lebron and you know, the older guys,

1080
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 2: Durant and those guys, and you put them up against

1081
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: the rising stars.

1082
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: And then another team is like the international.

1083
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: Players that are All Stars versus the younger American born

1084
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 2: NBA All Stars.

1085
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: So that's the format. So they're they're thinking here.

1086
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: Rich is, well, the older All Stars don't want to

1087
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: lose to a bunch of non All Stars rising stars,

1088
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 2: so their incentive is to play hard in that matchup.

1089
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: And then International versus American and the format is simple.

1090
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: First team to forty wins and then the winner of

1091
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: the two sets will play a championship game. Same thing,

1092
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: first team to forty wins. All right, so that's the format.

1093
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: Your pluses, your minuses, your reason, as you said earlier,

1094
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 2: of having zero interest in watching this.

1095
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 3: Well, all right, so you know, to give people some criteria,

1096
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 3: Team Shack is going to be Lebron, James, Steph Curry,

1097
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, Kevin Durant, Damian Lillard.

1098
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 4: The list goes on.

1099
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the team guys, Team Chuck, Donovan mcmichell, Nikola Jokic,

1100
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: You have Trey Young, Shay Gildess, Alexander Victor Wembin Yama,

1101
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: Team Kenny, Anthony Edwards, Jallen Brunton, Jaron Jackson, Kate Cunningham.

1102
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: So Charles has more of the international team.

1103
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's gonna be I believe Candice Parker.

1104
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 3: Who's going to coach or be the honorary captain of

1105
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: the team of rising stars. Who is going to face

1106
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 3: one of Chuck Kenny Shack.

1107
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna face Shack first.

1108
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: So here's here's that's way I feel about all this.

1109
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 3: So are those names that we love. If you're an

1110
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: NBA fan and you would love to see play really

1111
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: hard in an exhibition game, yeah, yeah, but they're not

1112
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 3: going to really no, even in.

1113
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: A format where all you have to do is get

1114
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: to forty points and the game's over.

1115
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll be shocked if we see a good product.

1116
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: I'll be shocked.

1117
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 4: And you know what, I'll stand corrected. If we get

1118
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 4: a good product out.

1119
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: Of this all star game format, I'll be shocked and

1120
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: I'll stand corrected, and I'll give all of the credit

1121
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: to Adam Silver and the list of consultants and players

1122
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 3: and whoever else helped him come up with this new format,

1123
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: because I think this is gonna flop.

1124
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a joke, just like

1125
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 4: past years.

1126
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: I think the only thing that this prevents is the

1127
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: video game cartoonish final scores that we have seen over

1128
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 3: the course of the years, as the All Star Games

1129
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 3: have had unlimited scoring. You know where both teams are

1130
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: scoring in the one hundred and fifty to two hundred

1131
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: range and nobody's playing any defense. I look, I don't

1132
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: blame any professional basketball player for protecting themselves.

1133
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: Oh come on, when you say protecting themselves, rich, Really,

1134
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: every time you take the cord you could get hurt.

1135
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: It's the same thing in football, right, show up?

1136
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: I mean years and years at the Pro Bowl, which

1137
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: was played the week after the Super Bowl, the stars

1138
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: would show up, they would play hard, and is there

1139
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: a risk that they could get hurt. There's always a

1140
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: risk you can get hurt in every game. It didn't

1141
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: stop them from testing themselves against their peers, meaning the

1142
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: best players in the league, and then it just stopped.

1143
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: It's simple, and so it just either make it a

1144
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: skills competition or just a bit.

1145
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: Why do we have to do that? Why do we

1146
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,479
Speaker 1: have to lower the ball?

1147
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 4: Do you watch? Do you watch the All Star Game?

1148
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: When I used to? I used to change? What changed?

1149
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 4: When when last time you actually watched it?

1150
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: Well, I mean either last year? I want it's the NBAL.

1151
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: I haven't watched the Flag Football game in years. For

1152
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: the NBA, NFL, probal It is my point. But I

1153
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: did watch the All Star Game last year.

1154
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 4: Would you think of it?

1155
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: What was awful?

1156
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1157
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: But why is it awful?

1158
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: Why do the players nowadays say screw it, I don't

1159
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: want to play because I could get hurt. Really, because

1160
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: you already took off fifteen games this year for load management,

1161
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: and you can't show up for a freaking All Star game, which,

1162
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: by the way, is the fans game. They're the ones

1163
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: that decide who gets to play in the game. They're

1164
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: the ones that are being catered to. You can't give

1165
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: out a little effort for the fans, you know, for

1166
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: twenty minutes on the court, to play hard and see

1167
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: how you fare against the best in the game. Is

1168
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: that really asking too much?

1169
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1170
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: I think I think what you I think what you're

1171
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: asking for is too much.

1172
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 4: And here's the reason why. Because everything's changed.

1173
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: We literally as it changed.

1174
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 3: We were literally just having the conversation about how I

1175
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 3: mean this is a week ago when the trade occurred,

1176
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 3: but how Luka Donci is. Part of the reason why

1177
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: the Mavericks may have traded or been comfortable trading Luco

1178
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: Way is because they didn't want to sign him to

1179
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: that three hundred and fifty million dollar max contract. When

1180
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: you are earning some part of a third of a

1181
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: billion dollars to play a sport and then somebody says, hey,

1182
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,479
Speaker 3: do you want to play in this exhibition game where

1183
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 3: you could potentially get injured or not or just go

1184
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 3: out there and goof around and just pretend.

1185
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? I look, there's no incentive anymore.

1186
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: Back back when the All Star Game meant something to

1187
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: the players, it was because if you could showcase your

1188
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 3: skills on a national scale, maybe you could get a

1189
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: shoe deal. Like, if you showcase your skills on a

1190
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 3: national scale, maybe you could have an ad campaign. I mean,

1191
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: that's that's what you were vying for. You were vying

1192
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: for real opportunity and real money.

1193
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: Now wait a second, there is one All Start that

1194
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: had a.

1195
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 2: Different view of in terms of effort exerted in the

1196
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: All Star Game.

1197
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Jaron Jackson Junior.

1198
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 6: When you step on the floor, do you feel like

1199
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 6: Friday is on the line of that All Star Game

1200
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 6: that you have to show up and show I.

1201
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 9: Told them earlier, I said, I'm just gonna.

1202
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 6: Pick up full court Okay, we're into that.

1203
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm.

1204
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 9: Just gonna do it just because you know, let's just

1205
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 9: set a different tone. Yes, it's a different format. Obviously,

1206
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 9: you're not trying to get blown out in a game

1207
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 9: of forty in the first game. It's a shows it's

1208
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 9: for everybody else. What you start to learn when you're

1209
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 9: really in it. It's like, Okay, if I go too

1210
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 9: hard and I'm not me per se. But let's say

1211
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 9: I'm like twelve years in and I got to stretch

1212
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 9: like I'm old dr.

1213
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 4: So I gotta, like I really gotta.

1214
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 9: I gotta get there, So I'm not about to be

1215
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 9: running like I'm not about to be doing all that.

1216
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing for Jaron Jackson Junior.

1217
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 2: So he says, yeah, you know, obviously two years ago,

1218
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: defensive player of the Year in the NBA, I'm going

1219
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 2: full court now. If no one else is doing it,

1220
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: if you're the only guy playing hard, then obviously he'll

1221
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: back off because that he doesn't want to look stupid. Yeah,

1222
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: I just I mean, look, you're making all this money,

1223
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: and really you can't.

1224
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: You can't just sag.

1225
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: It's not like you're gonna play forty minutes, You're gonna

1226
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: play twenty minutes.

1227
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 3: I know, I know it's hard. Hang on a second,

1228
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: Hang on a second. Like, let me give you an example. Say,

1229
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. You've gotten to a point in your

1230
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 3: career where you're working at a law firm and you

1231
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: made partner, and you've been partner for a decade, right,

1232
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 3: and you are one of the best trial attorneys in

1233
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 3: the country, and then all of a sudden, your law

1234
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 3: firm decides once a year that you're gonna do all

1235
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: of the work that the paralegals or the attempts that

1236
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: get brought into the office or interns during the busiest

1237
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: times of your office. They're gonna flip flop it. They're

1238
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: gonna make you do some of that work, and you're

1239
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: gonna do it for a substantially less amount of money.

1240
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: Like I mean, compare this to any business, you know,

1241
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 3: Compare this to you know.

1242
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 4: They they made.

1243
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 3: A show that was almost a parody of this called

1244
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 3: Undercover Boss, where the CEO of a company would go

1245
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: down to the fast food restaurant that he oversaw from

1246
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 3: a national platform and he would work on the fryer

1247
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 3: for an afternoon and he'd be like, man, I had

1248
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: no idea how difficult this was, you know, And it's like, yeah,

1249
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 3: you know you could. You could do it poorly for

1250
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: one day and laugh along. And by the way, they

1251
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 3: were probably being paid handsomely to be on that show,

1252
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 3: just mind you. So that's just a side note to it.

1253
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: But my point is this, like nobody wants to do

1254
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 3: something that they're not properly incentivized to do.

1255
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: Relaying golf. They play the Ryder Cup for nothing.

1256
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 3: You're telling me that those guys gain nothing from playing

1257
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: in the Rider.

1258
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: They don't get paid by by the PGA or the

1259
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: maker millions on the PGA, or.

1260
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: Do their endorsers pay them for the Ryder cupany and

1261
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: the endorsements don't come for NBA players.

1262
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: They don't make any money off the court, on the

1263
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: on the All Star Game.

1264
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: Not about these guys not showing it for this All

1265
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: Star Game and giving it one hundred percent effort.

1266
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: This is what they're doing to the fans to spit

1267
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: right in your face.

1268
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 3: And by the way, we're on the same side of

1269
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 3: the argument. I'm just explaining to you why it's happening.

1270
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 4: I mean, and by the.

1271
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 3: Way, as disagreeable as you find it, and or I

1272
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: find it, or anybody finds it. The reality of the

1273
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: situation is, unless Adam Silver finds a way to appropriately.

1274
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: Insensivize, he's the most overrated commissioner in the history of sports.

1275
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: Everyone talks about the great Adam Silver.

1276
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: This guy is a lightweight because he handed the reins

1277
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: to the players, and that's why he's universally loved by

1278
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 2: the players of the league. He has no backbone. I

1279
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: knew David Stern. I interviewed David Stern a lot of

1280
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: He was a hard ass. He had it his way

1281
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 2: or the highway. Adam Silver is the complete opposite, and

1282
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't think the NBA is better for it. All Right,

1283
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: that's a personal opinion. Let's find out what's trending right now,

1284
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: all right. Monzi Belanyas of course, is a major fan. Monzi,

1285
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: do you do a care about the All Star Game?

1286
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: Have you ever cared about the NBA All Star Game?

1287
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: Does it bother you that the players who are making

1288
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: thirty forty to fifty sixty million dollars a year, it's

1289
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: too much to ask for them to give one hundred

1290
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: percent effort in this mid season showcase for the NBA.

1291
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 6: Saying that it bothers me is putting it nicely. Yeah,

1292
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 6: it's very annoying. It's very frustrating. I loved the NBA.

1293
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,479
Speaker 7: All Star Game, especially back then when they would wear

1294
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 7: their own jerseys and it was really East versus West.

1295
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 6: Oh, it was so good.

1296
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 7: And I remember that one year they always played defense,

1297
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 7: but one time Shaq was taking the ball up the

1298
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 7: court and he like put it in between his legs

1299
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 7: and slow motions like those were the very minimal antics.

1300
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 2: You could have fun exactly and still play hard.

1301
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 7: Absolutely, you know, like you want to throw it off

1302
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 7: the backboard to yourself.

1303
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 6: That's the fun we're looking for. But we want you

1304
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 6: to play defense.

1305
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 7: The pride is out the windows there at the end

1306
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Speaker 7: of the game, exactly.

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Speaker 6: There's no pride. And I don't disagree with you that

1308
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 6: it starts.

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01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 7: With Adam Silver and just we talked about it a

1310
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 7: little bit yesterday that everyone's buddy buddy with each other.

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01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: He's so weak.

1312
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 7: But I feel like it's pride, Like I don't want

1313
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 7: like everyone just wants to all be the same, and

1314
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 7: it's like, no, I want you to hate each other

1315
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 7: for just a second.

1316
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 6: I want you to hate each other.

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01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like well lit and I

1318
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: we're going to get into that level of frustration if

1319
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: you're an NBA fan, which we all are.

1320
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 7: Which we are, Yes, but it's hard to not be frustrated. Yes,

1321
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 7: we'll check in right now. In men's college hoops, one

1322
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 7: game going on on FS one and it's number nine

1323
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 7: Saint John's edgy number twenty four create in twenty six

1324
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 7: to twenty five. Wichita State did have an eighty four

1325
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 7: to seventy nine upset Overnumber fourteen Memphis in overtime, and

1326
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 7: number twenty Michigan held on to defeat Ohio State eighty

1327
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 7: six to eighty three at the Genesis Invitational.

1328
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 4: A new leader.

1329
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 7: It's Denny McCarthy who is now ten under part overall,

1330
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 7: but Scotti Scheffler is two shots back.

1331
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 6: Who is right now world number one?

1332
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 7: Yes, Daytona five hundred after just eleven laps has been delayed.

1333
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 6: Jeff Gluck, who writes.

1334
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 7: For The Athletic, tweeted this just to give you guys

1335
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 7: an idea of what they're expecting. He tweeted that NASCAR

1336
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 7: is expecting it ter rain for a while, like two

1337
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,959
Speaker 7: to three hours after it clears, they're going to try

1338
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 7: to dry the track. Typically takes about two and a

1339
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 7: half hours to do that, and then they want to

1340
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 7: get the race going.

1341
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 2: So President Trump was there as he was for the

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01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: super Bowl, but as soon as the rain happened, he

1343
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: got out of there.

1344
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 6: Yeah his hair, he can't mess up the hair.

1345
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he left.

1346
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was there at the beginning, but the

1347
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: rain said, yeah, I'm out of it.

1348
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 7: But are they all really just gonna sit there for

1349
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 7: five six hours?

1350
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: We'll do that, I GUARANTEGI what.

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01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 6: We what are we doing? Can we just be like,

1352
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 6: all right, see you tomorrow, wrap it up, go home.

1353
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 2: Both years I was at Daytona, it rained during the week.

1354
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 2: I think one of the years that was a rain delay.

1355
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: They did the same thing with the Indianapolis five hundred.

1356
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: They'll sit around wait for the rain to go.

1357
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, all I know this.

1358
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 2: If I'm going in the car at two hundred miles

1359
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: an hour and you're saying, yeah, I.

1360
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 6: Think it's dry, we think it's try. Yeah, absolutely what

1361
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 6: you think.

1362
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 4: I'm sure you got all the moisture off there.

1363
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 7: Also, if it's cold at night, like because at this point,

1364
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:25,879
Speaker 7: isn't it going to be dark when they start.

1365
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah they have lights.

1366
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, this makes no sense back to you guys.

1367
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:31,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't sell tickets for tomorrow.

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01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 4: I don't.

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01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: I don't think well, first of all, when I went today.

1370
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Speaker 2: The thing that really got to me when I went

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01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: to Daytona both those years is how many people camp

1372
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: out all week? You got all these trailers. I mean,

1373
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: the parking line is like a trailer park. They'll spend

1374
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: the entire work. So the idea that they would stay

1375
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: an extra night.

1376
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they will stay next to it.

1377
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 8: It's an entire week to drink out there. Everyone's drunk

1378
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 8: already exactly.

1379
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 6: So then just reschedule for tomorrow.

1380
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1381
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1382
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 2: We are live from the tire rack dot com studios,

1383
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 2: all right.

1384
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, the the all stary.

1385
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,480
Speaker 2: It's a lot of frustration, and it's it's it's unfortunate

1386
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: because I I don't think it has to be that way.

1387
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: But you know, I wanted to talk about this.

1388
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: You know, you heard Draymond Green uh basically said that

1389
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 2: the NBA is boring. Uh And he cited, you know,

1390
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 2: the three point shooting, the proliferation of three point shooting,

1391
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: which by the way is the reason that guy has

1392
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: four rings is because of three point shooting. But that aside,

1393
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: and then the idea that it's not a very physical

1394
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 2: game anymore, scoring his way up because teams are frankly

1395
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: just playing less defense.

1396
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the way it is.

1397
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: And and I look, that's frustrating to me as a fan.

1398
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: I prefer a more physical game. I obviously prefer an

1399
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: inside out game. Aesthetically, I prefer that kind of basketball.

1400
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: But that's not my biggest problem. My biggest problem is

1401
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,440
Speaker 2: just the fact that they're there's a lack of intensity

1402
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: in these games. In other words, the regular season it

1403
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: used to be about rivalries, right when if you go back,

1404
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 2: you don't even have to go back to the nineties.

1405
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:15,480
Speaker 2: In the two thousands, there were still some very intense rivalries.

1406
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: Rich You've talked about this during your NFL career. Yeah,

1407
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: you have games they sort of run into each other,

1408
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 2: you know, regular season games, but there are certain games

1409
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: where you have a rival and the intensity, even if

1410
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: it's a regular season game, gets taken.

1411
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: Up a notch.

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: I feel like we don't have that doesn't seem to

1413
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: be very many, if any, intense rivalries, right, now in

1414
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: the NBA, and so what we're seeing night in and

1415
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: night out is a general lack of intensity that you're

1416
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: just going through the motions and just waiting until the

1417
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: postseason arrives. That's the biggest problem I have currently with

1418
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: the NBA is the fact that the rivalries have evaporated.

1419
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: Because there's no stress, there's no urgency. There's eighty two

1420
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 3: games and maybe maybe fifty of a matter, like, if

1421
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 3: we're being honest with each other.

1422
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't always that way, right, No, No, not that

1423
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: long ago, wasn't that way.

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 3: I understand that they've they've diluted this product so much

1425
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 3: that now you have a bunch of players who are

1426
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 3: satisfied going out there and doing three quarters of the

1427
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 3: work to maybe only two thirds of the games that

1428
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: they actually appear in. And then of those games, maybe

1429
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 3: they have to have a winning percentage that's you know,

1430
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 3: that's above fifty percent. But they can still sneak into

1431
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: the play in tournament. When there's only thirty teams and

1432
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 3: twenty teams get to go to the postseason, it's ridiculous.

1433
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. So only only ten teams get left out?

1434
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean playing around yet, right.

1435
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 3: Right, That's what I'm saying because technically the play in

1436
01:11:58,960 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: tournament is.

1437
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: The although it's amazing because those play in games do

1438
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: not appear in the record books, right, They're not considered

1439
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 2: playoff games. So if you look at you know, like

1440
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:16,839
Speaker 2: Basketball Reference, there is no inclusion in the record books

1441
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 2: of any of the playing games.

1442
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: Well, and which is really bizarre.

1443
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 3: It's almost it almost feels like it's something that the

1444
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 3: NBA is ashamed of that they actually need to employ

1445
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 3: to again incentivize better play. Right, Like, I'm I am

1446
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 3: so tired of the lack of urgency of the NBA.

1447
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 3: It makes me sick to my stomach that an eight

1448
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 3: year old, right, my oldest.

1449
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 4: Right now is nine.

1450
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 3: So say my nine year old is an enormous Luka

1451
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 3: Doncic or Lebron James fan or Kevin Durant fan or

1452
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard fan. You name the superstar, right, and I

1453
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 3: bring him to the arena that that superstar plays, and

1454
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 3: on a night where that player is healthy, has absolutely

1455
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with him, could absolutely suit up, put on

1456
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 3: his basketball shoes and play. He sits down because he

1457
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 3: wants to rest himself. It just it's just absurd. These

1458
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 3: guys are getting paid hundreds and hundreds of millions of

1459
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: dollars and they're still not appropriately incentivized to play every

1460
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 3: game of the regular season. Look in the NFL, they're

1461
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 3: seventeen games. I mean, are we hitting a point where

1462
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 3: we may see a point of diminishing returns where teams

1463
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 3: can rest players at certain points in the season too?

1464
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1465
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,520
Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean there's gonna be another regular season expansion.

1466
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna move to eighteen games. I don't know if

1467
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,879
Speaker 3: that's the line of diminishing returns.

1468
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 4: I guess we'll see.

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: NBA NFL regular season ratings.

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01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 2: Were down slightly, although the Super Bowl was the most

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01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: swatched Super Bowl of all time, considering that game was

1472
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: a blowout at halftime, that's a pretty amazing number.

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01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 4: It's a pretty amazing number.

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Speaker 3: I here's my problem with it, though, Like all these

1475
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 3: other sports leagues like baseball, like the the NFL is

1476
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 3: heading in the same direction. The reason why people care

1477
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 3: about the regular season in the NFL is because there's urgency,

1478
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: because players are stressed out that if they don't perform

1479
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 3: well during the very limited amount of time they have

1480
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 3: to perform well, well, then they may miss the postseason,

1481
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 3: or they miss some bonuses.

1482
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 4: On their contract, etc. Etc.

1483
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,879
Speaker 3: There is none of that concern or worry in the NBA,

1484
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: and frankly almost none of it in Major League Baseball either.

1485
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: The best season in my life watching baseball was coming

1486
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 3: out of the holdout or lockout during the pandemic, where

1487
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 3: the players and the owners had to rush to figure

1488
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: out their season. Played sixty games and it was an

1489
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 3: absolute dead sprint towards the playoffs. It was the most

1490
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 3: I've ever seen players try and strive and care in

1491
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 3: my lifetime.

1492
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: It made baseball great again.

1493
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 3: When you look at the NBA, they these guys put

1494
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 3: up lackluster performance, sometimes starting in the second quarter, because

1495
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 3: if a regular season game is lost, who cares will

1496
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,480
Speaker 3: win tomorrow night? There's no urgency.

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01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: Steve all right.

1498
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: On the other side, there's another sport that I'll wait

1499
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: a second. On the other side, there was a happening

1500
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 2: in the NBA, and I mean a happening that should

1501
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 2: not have happened, a happening that should not have happened.

1502
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 1: We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Orritchrberger Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

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01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot Com studios.

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01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: So last night.

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01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: Mac McClung became the first ever three time winner of

1507
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: the Dunk Contest. So this guy shows up every year

1508
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: and like, people are like, who is Mac McClung, and

1509
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 2: why do I never hear about this guy except for

1510
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: the slam down competition.

1511
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: Here is the Mac McClung resume.

1512
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: He has played four years since leaving Texas Tech.

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01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: In the G League.

1514
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, in four years he's averaged over

1515
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: twenty one points a game in the G League.

1516
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 1: Wow.

1517
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 2: His NBA career rich in four years has consisted of

1518
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: a total of five games. He has played five games

1519
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: in the NBA in four years, one this year, and

1520
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: his scoring average is zero point zero. He came out

1521
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: representing the Orlando Magic, of which he played one game. This,

1522
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,440
Speaker 2: to me is very comparable to the only thing comparable

1523
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: I can think of where somebody is that good at

1524
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: one thing but not good enough to actually play in

1525
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 2: the league is the long drive competition in golf. Right,

1526
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: they had that long drive competition where they get those

1527
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 2: huge guys and they hit the ball four hundred yards

1528
01:16:58,840 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: and they're.

1529
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 1: Not PGA two players.

1530
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,799
Speaker 2: They have one stick, they can hit a golf ball

1531
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 2: a mile, that they don't have the game to actually

1532
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: play on the PGA Tour. You don't see big names

1533
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: in that competition. You see a bunch of names you

1534
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: never heard of. But it's like, Wow, that guy can

1535
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 2: hit the ball a mile. That's the only thing comparable

1536
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: I can think of to what is now the NBA

1537
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 2: Slam Dunk Competition, and that they allow Mac McClung, who

1538
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: is a G League player and has been for four years,

1539
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 2: has only played five games ever total in his NBA career,

1540
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:37,520
Speaker 2: to compete in this NBA Slam Dunk Competition.

1541
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 3: I think that it's interesting that you bring up how

1542
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 3: he's performing in the G League because I was unaware

1543
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 3: of whether he was a great player in the G

1544
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 3: League or if he was just a great dunker.

1545
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 4: Right, he actually.

1546
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 2: Plays pretty well and been consistent over four years about

1547
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: over twenty points a game.

1548
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 4: I'll make I'll make this comparison.

1549
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 3: Now, how long I mean he's he's won three in

1550
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 3: a row, so he's been bouncing around the G League.

1551
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: For four years the league.

1552
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 3: Imagine, imagine if there was a triple A player in

1553
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball who we only had awareness of at

1554
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 3: the home run Derby who was consistently winning it. But

1555
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,839
Speaker 3: we knew that he couldn't hit a real major league curveball,

1556
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he just he he

1557
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 3: can't hang, but when he has meatballs thrown over the plate,

1558
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 3: he can drill him out of the yard.

1559
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: Good combarrasson.

1560
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: I mean, how impressive is that for everybody to because look,

1561
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 3: here's the thing, the reason why people show up for

1562
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 3: All Star Week or people show up for the Slam

1563
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 3: Dunk contest. And don't get me wrong, this is no

1564
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to offend McClung. I think he's a

1565
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 3: phenomenal athlete and I think he does this this one

1566
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: thing insanely well. And by the way, at the G

1567
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 3: League level, hanging twenty points tonight is nothing to turn

1568
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 3: your nose up at. That's very impressive as well. But

1569
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: it's not the point of the All Star Game because

1570
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 3: he is not an All Star in the NBA. Now.

1571
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: If this a game, by the way, is if his

1572
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 3: clips were going viral for the G League All Star Game,

1573
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 3: I think I would be more excited about it than

1574
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 3: I am for the NBA All Star Game, because I'd

1575
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 3: be like, look at this rising star.

1576
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 4: Look what he's doing.

1577
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 3: Maybe I would do more research on him, but it's

1578
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 3: almost like it almost feels like the NBA are trying

1579
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: to find workarounds that don't actually work for the fans,

1580
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 3: and this is one that does.

1581
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 4: Not work for me.

1582
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: I think, well, I think McClung is a phenomenal athlete.

1583
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm not interested by the way.

1584
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 2: One of the five games he played in the NBA

1585
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 2: scored twenty points. Yeah, in one of those games he

1586
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 2: actually scored twenty points. Shay, you say there has been

1587
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 2: some reaction around the NBA to this McClung phenomena.

1588
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1589
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 10: John Mouran came out and said Mac might make me decided.

1590
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 10: Dounk Jannis reacted to that and said, if you do it,

1591
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 10: I'll do it to jaw And and Zach Levine actually

1592
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 10: responded an hour ago saying, thinking I might have to

1593
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 10: do it again. So people are saying it, Okay, this

1594
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 10: happens almost every year.

1595
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: Why and maybe that's a great thing. Look, Mac McClung

1596
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 2: doesn't have to prove anything. I mean what that first

1597
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 2: dunk over the car unreal?

1598
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 4: It was.

1599
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 2: But if he inspires some of these stars to get

1600
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: back in the competition. Mack McClung has done his job.

1601
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: We have much more coming up. Keep it here. This

1602
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday. It's an All Star Sunday sort of,

1603
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: and we're celebrating it is Fox Sports Sunday. We are

1604
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,280
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1605
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1606
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,120
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1607
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,280
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Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. Uh. Yeah, it is an

1610
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 2: All Star Game Sunday. They have skills competition still going on.

1611
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why, but they do, and it.

1612
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: Was pretty interesting. They have it by team.

1613
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: They had the Senate Tonio Spurs duo of Chris Paul

1614
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 2: who's no longer an All Star, and Victory Webin Yama Wemby,

1615
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 2: who is.

1616
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: An All Star and just a freak.

1617
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1618
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,759
Speaker 1: This is the frustrating, frustrating thing about the NBA.

1619
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 2: There are some great players, now, yeah, I mean there

1620
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: are some phenomenal talents in the NBA. And yeah, I

1621
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: actually read somewhere Chris, Chris, you made a point about

1622
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: they are now blaming the NBA media for all the

1623
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: negative comments.

1624
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 8: It was just one person who I follow, who usually

1625
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 8: I respect on these matters. But I do think there

1626
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 8: is a there's a certain take out there that I

1627
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 8: would say is that it's not that the NBA is

1628
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 8: in trouble, that this is actually the best the NBA

1629
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 8: has in its play. It's just that we have become

1630
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 8: jaded and that we have a I mean, we have

1631
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 8: a over abundance of people, especially if you look at

1632
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 8: inside the NBA, who do nothing but denigrate the game

1633
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 8: that is being played on the court.

1634
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 10: Right.

1635
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: Like I said, my problem again, it's your problem, is

1636
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 2: basically what it comes down. If you don't like the

1637
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: style of play, that's fine, that's a matter of opinion.

1638
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 2: There's not everyone dislikes the style of play. A younger

1639
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: generation has grown up with this style of play. They

1640
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 2: like this style of play. That's not my problem. That's

1641
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: not my problem.

1642
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 4: They kind of like it.

1643
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 3: The ratings aren't as strong as it was back when

1644
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 3: we'll say the nineties, in the early two thousands, compared

1645
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 3: to the twenty twenties, the ratings aren't even comparable, right,

1646
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 3: But so so, the money is bigger than ever grew

1647
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 3: up with this league, do not like it as much

1648
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 3: as the people from yesteryear.

1649
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 8: But again, I wouldn't even understand that I would even

1650
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 8: add to that. I was telling Steve this too. You

1651
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 8: don't even need to go that back that far. You

1652
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 8: can go to the twenty tens, like the early to

1653
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 8: mid twenty tens. Before we had Golden State Cavaliers dominating

1654
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 8: everything for about three years. But there was a plurality

1655
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 8: of teams. When the Miami Heat had the Big Three,

1656
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 8: you saw the Big Three. In Boston, you had the

1657
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 8: Oklahoma City thunder Harden had just gone to the Rockets

1658
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 8: and they looked like being a contender. The Pacers were

1659
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 8: around there, The Golden State Warriors are coming on, the

1660
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 8: Spurs were this, you know, still looming threat to everything.

1661
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 8: There was at least a good ten to a dozen

1662
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 8: teams that were relevant any given year, and I felt

1663
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 8: every night there was something at least these teams were

1664
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 8: playing for. And those Stars are playing every night too well.

1665
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 2: But now we have a league where we're just having

1666
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: a revolving door of champions.

1667
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 8: Didn't even mention lob City in there, Like, you know,

1668
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 8: there's just so many things from the twenty tens.

1669
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I mean, right now, you want the

1670
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 2: best team in the NBA this year is okase, that's right.

1671
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 4: I mean they just.

1672
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: Rattled off what seventeen straight I mean, and they're not winning.

1673
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 2: They are blowing people out. Much like that too. The

1674
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 2: Cavaliers are so good in the East.

1675
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 8: But yet everyone you talk to out there, if they

1676
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 8: follow the NBA, is like, yeah, yeah, it's still it's

1677
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 8: still the Nuggets.

1678
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: To watch Shawty, I get they A revolving door is

1679
01:23:59,240 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 2: not a good thing.

1680
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: You know, you need a focus.

1681
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 2: As frustrated as it was for a lot of NBA

1682
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 2: fans when we had the four straight years of the

1683
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 2: Cavs essentially Lebron versus the Golden State Warriors.

1684
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: And you know, we were just starting to remember Rich.

1685
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: We would sort of like, you know, can we get

1686
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 2: through the playoffs and we get to the inevitable matchup.

1687
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: But those those four NBA finals put up some pretty

1688
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: respectable numbers, because now you've got Lebron versus Steph, You've

1689
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 2: got you know what I mean, people looked forward to

1690
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 2: that matchup. Now it's just this hodgepodge from one year

1691
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 2: to the next, Where what do we got here, Well, well.

1692
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 3: Let me let me slow down the conversation because I

1693
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 3: think it's sped up and we breeze past the original point,

1694
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 3: which was the fact that it's a commentary that is

1695
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 3: growing in steam, right, that it is the fans' fault

1696
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 3: for not enjoying the product.

1697
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 4: Like, here's my problem with.

1698
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 3: That whole that whole idea, that whole spin, frankly is

1699
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: what it is.

1700
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 4: It falls on deaf ears with me.

1701
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 3: If I go to your restaurant and I don't like

1702
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 3: the experience, do a better job. If I go to

1703
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 3: your burger joint and I don't like your burger, make

1704
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 3: a better burger. If you show up and listen to

1705
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 3: our radio show and you don't think we do a

1706
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 3: good job, stop listening. It is not up to the

1707
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 3: consumer to provide a great product.

1708
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 4: It is up to the MBA.

1709
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 3: Like, how dare anybody have this opinion that it is

1710
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 3: beholden upon the consumer to make a good product or

1711
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 3: to celebrate an inferior product.

1712
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 4: Screw you.

1713
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 3: It's not my job to make sure that you have

1714
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 3: good ratings. I mean that is, don't tell me to

1715
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 3: eat my vegetables like I'm a grown man. If I

1716
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 3: choose to go to the NFL because it's like, you know,

1717
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 3: eating ice cream every time I turn on the television.

1718
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: Well, guess what, that's what my brain wants.

1719
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to go have green beans that are

1720
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 3: you know, fresh out of the freezer, you know, on

1721
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 3: some random weeknight watching Oka see blow the doors off

1722
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 3: the Clippers.

1723
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:13,799
Speaker 4: Screw you, NBA.

1724
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 3: Make a better product and I'll pay attention, Like, don't

1725
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 3: tell me as the consumer that I need to do

1726
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 3: a better job of enjoying your crummy product.

1727
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 2: Well, but here's the point, is the fact that if

1728
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 2: you're getting paid for a lesser product more money, where's

1729
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: your incentive to improve the game?

1730
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: Exactly? Money is coming into the NBA than ever before.

1731
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: This league has done the best job of growing internationally.

1732
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 2: I mean it's been well versed about the billions of

1733
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: dollars that come in from China into the NBA.

1734
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: A lot of people not happy about that.

1735
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: But if you're the NBA, hey, I mean, no one's

1736
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 2: going to argue about that money coming in, and so

1737
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 2: there is no incentive. You know, you we can argue

1738
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: until you know, ratings are down. Didn't seem to bother

1739
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 2: anybody when they've cooked up these television contracts. They're paying

1740
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 2: more money than ever. So you know, I get what

1741
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: the NBA is saying is the fact that you know,

1742
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 2: you complain constantly that the product isn't as good. Well,

1743
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 2: guess what our sponsors. The television contracts tell a different story.

1744
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 1: If we were that bad, they would not be paying

1745
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: us this money.

1746
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they are yeah, yeah, Well well here's the

1747
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 2: thing with contracts.

1748
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 3: So so okay, so you know, this is probably getting

1749
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 3: too far down the road of like American exceptionalism, right,

1750
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 3: but but I mean it's true, like we're we're playing

1751
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 3: the best, most attractive brand of basketball in this country.

1752
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,440
Speaker 3: We have the most stars, we have the best players

1753
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: on the planet. Now, you can make the argument that

1754
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 3: you just did, and you did a good job, Steve

1755
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 3: of laying it out, like where is the incentive for

1756
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 3: these stars to play really hard basketball over the course

1757
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 3: of an eighty two game season. They're overpaid, and you know,

1758
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 3: they've expanded the postseason to include twenty teams now, so

1759
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 3: there's not as much incentive in the regular season anymore.

1760
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 4: Completely agree with all that.

1761
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 3: But if you have a great American product and you

1762
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 3: bring it over to China, where they don't have as

1763
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 3: many good players as we do in the United States.

1764
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 3: And you say, hey, here's a great brand of basketball

1765
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 3: for you to enjoyed compared to what you.

1766
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 4: Have, Well, then of course they're going to consume it.

1767
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 3: You bring it to Africa, you indoctrinate the country with

1768
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 3: visits from NBA superstars, You bring it to Europe, you

1769
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 3: bring it to Australia, and then as a result, now

1770
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 3: basketball has become more of a global sport. But out

1771
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 3: in our country, what used to be this insanely competitive,

1772
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 3: extremely special product that we all celebrated gleefully here has

1773
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 3: been diluted and watered down and turned into this tangible,

1774
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 3: sellable product that is being foisted up as better than

1775
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 3: what you have overseas. But it is not to our

1776
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 3: standard here. So that's the problem. Americans got a taste

1777
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 3: of how good it could be, and then you went

1778
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 3: global and you watered down our product. And so I

1779
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 3: don't blame anybody like whoever this this person is, who

1780
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 3: is spreading this this ideal that we should bow to

1781
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 3: the NBA and thank them for making such a great product.

1782
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 4: I can't do that. It's not in me.

1783
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 3: I'm either gonna watch your product because it's great, or

1784
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:37,759
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna watch your product.

1785
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 4: Now.

1786
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 3: Do I still hang in there and watch a lot

1787
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 3: of NBA basketball?

1788
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1789
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'll turn on the NBA a bunch

1790
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 3: of nights during the week. But can I tell you,

1791
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 3: and I know this for certain, the reason why the

1792
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 3: ratings are plummeting is because I don't enjoy it as

1793
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 3: much as I used to.

1794
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm gonna give you what I

1795
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 2: think is the worst take that I've heard yet about

1796
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: why the All Star Week in the NBA is less

1797
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 2: of a show than it could have been.

1798
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,799
Speaker 1: Worst take that I've heard. Are you ready for this? Yes,

1799
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 1: it's coming up.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and Rich Harberger,

1801
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday.

1802
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: We are love from the tire Rack dot Com Studios.

1803
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 4: All right.

1804
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 2: So again, as a culprit myself, I don't want to

1805
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: sit here and claim that I haven't done the same

1806
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 2: countless times.

1807
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: I'd be a complete hypocrite. I have overplayed stories many.

1808
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 2: Times over the course of my broadcast career. Rich has

1809
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 2: been party to many of those. However, sometimes even I

1810
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 2: have to take a step back and say, do you

1811
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 2: understand what you're actually saying. You know, I don't agree

1812
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: with everything that other people talk about. Sometimes I do.

1813
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: In fact, sometimes they'll say something I wasn't thinking about.

1814
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 4: I steal it.

1815
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, well that was brilliant, and how I'm going

1816
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: to use it as my own. That's the way it works.

1817
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 2: But sometimes I'm hearing people, I'm like, are you really

1818
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 2: understanding what you're saying. So one of the stories leading

1819
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 2: up to this All Star Week, because we remember last

1820
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 2: year and it was certainly a highlight of the All

1821
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 2: Star Week last year, was Sabrina Inescue going toe to

1822
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 2: toe with Steph Curry in a three point shooting contest.

1823
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 2: She was there to the end, easily could have won.

1824
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 2: She put on a display of shooting that was remarkable

1825
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 2: and it was a highlight. Steph appreciated, She appreciated the recognition.

1826
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:48,719
Speaker 1: It was theater to watch. It was great.

1827
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:53,839
Speaker 2: So everyone was anticipating that, hey, she's great, but Caitlin

1828
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 2: Clark's next level.

1829
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 1: They made an offer to her.

1830
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: And she said thanks, but no thanks, because the first

1831
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 2: time I want to compete in a three point shooting

1832
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: contest is at my All Star Game.

1833
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,520
Speaker 1: The WNBA All Star Game, So I'm hearing.

1834
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 2: Some people that are like, she ruin All Star Week,

1835
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, you understand what you're saying here that

1836
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 2: the only way to save NBA All Star Week is

1837
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 2: for a w NBA player to show up. You have

1838
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 2: realized how how out of sorts that is. Let me

1839
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 2: ask you this because I maybe I'll be surprised by

1840
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 2: the answer. Is Kaitlin Clark right now the biggest star

1841
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 2: in the basketball universe man or woman?

1842
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 4: Is Caitlin Clark the biggest star in basketball? Man or woman?

1843
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 4: I would argue, I would argue.

1844
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 3: Well, right now, because her season's over and she's not

1845
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 3: making headlines every single day, not as much as when

1846
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 3: when she was, I would say it would be Lebron James.

1847
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,799
Speaker 3: You could argue, you could argue Luca took that mantle

1848
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 3: for a short time, though.

1849
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 1: She's a bigger story than Luca.

1850
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:18,560
Speaker 3: Well, I'm saying overall, like when when you think about

1851
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 3: just who the the general public is going to pay

1852
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 3: more attention to, I would say, right now, it's probably

1853
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 3: Lebron James, But Kayln Clark, Let's put it this way,

1854
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 3: she makes my top five.

1855
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 2: Well, okay, can I bring Monzi into this? Conversation because

1856
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,839
Speaker 2: she was nodding her head. Can you open up Monzi's

1857
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 2: mic right now? Because Manzi, we didn't actually cover this yesterday,

1858
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 2: but I was meant to.

1859
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 1: It sort of slipped through her a couple of hours.

1860
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask the question, just like I asked Rich.

1861
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 2: Is Kaylen Clark right now the biggest star in the

1862
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 2: basketball universe?

1863
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 7: I think you could argue yes, So when when the

1864
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 7: argument is made?

1865
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 2: And I wasn't saying that their argument was wrong, but

1866
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 2: I don't think people really understood what they were saying

1867
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 2: a lot of times that the idea that Kayln Clark

1868
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 2: would turn down the opportunity to compete in the NBA

1869
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 2: three point shooting contest, that they that destroyed the NBA

1870
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 2: All Star Week.

1871
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, she is, in my opinion, And if you

1872
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,560
Speaker 7: told me that she wasn't, I feel like you have

1873
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:22,719
Speaker 7: an argument for that as well.

1874
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 6: But I think when you.

1875
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 7: Are living rent free in people's head like that, you

1876
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 7: are absolutely the most popular NBA woman or female or

1877
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 7: male player right now.

1878
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:35,759
Speaker 6: She's living rent free.

1879
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 2: I don't all that's what I'm saying. She's the biggest,

1880
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,719
Speaker 2: the biggest, best, most, I mean, we're talking about Lebron

1881
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 2: and I understand where we're going. But Lebron's forty years old.

1882
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,600
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I mean, these best days are behind him

1883
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 2: and she is still emerging.

1884
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 1: It's amazing, isn't it? Rich though, Thank you Monci.

1885
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 2: It's the idea that you know a year ago, when

1886
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 2: we were talking about Caitlin Clark all the time, you know,

1887
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 2: after another great run an I one, then of course

1888
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 2: she immediately had to jump into the WNBA, had to

1889
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 2: shake off a little bit.

1890
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was fatigue early and that.

1891
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 2: She just got better, better, better better, And you're thinking,

1892
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 2: all right, well, how long is is this going to be?

1893
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Like lynsanity?

1894
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 2: You know, there was a moment where you know, Jeremy

1895
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 2: Lynn was the talk of the NBA and then it ended.

1896
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: Is there any end to this with Caitlin Clark?

1897
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're doing a pretty good job

1898
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 2: with her, you know, not overplaying her and just I

1899
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 2: don't know, keeping her news because this was a big story,

1900
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 2: the fact that she turned down the opportunity to compete

1901
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 2: in the NBA three point shooting contest.

1902
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 3: I think that actually, I think the opposite. I think

1903
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 3: that the WNBA has completely fumbled the opportunity to make

1904
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:46,679
Speaker 3: her an even bigger star.

1905
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 1: I think that, but has that hurt her star?

1906
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 6: Well?

1907
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,719
Speaker 3: I think she has stardom because of all the work

1908
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 3: that she's put in, Yeah, and then the fact that

1909
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 3: she's handled the spotlight as well as she has. I

1910
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 3: don't I don't credit anybody else for that because I

1911
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 3: think and I think, I'm not arguing with the point

1912
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 3: you're making about her being a star. I think she

1913
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 3: is a star, but I think it's based more on

1914
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 3: her own merit than how well she's been marketed. I

1915
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 3: think they've done an awful job marketing her, and I

1916
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 3: think in spite of that, she still has persevered and

1917
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 3: become an enormous star in this country. Now, when you

1918
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 3: say the biggest star in basketball, I don't think it

1919
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 3: translates as well internationally as maybe we think. I think

1920
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 3: that Lebron James is still a bigger star overseas. Kevin Durant,

1921
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 3: I think, obviously, you know some of the players from

1922
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 3: you know, Europe, are you know Yannis or Jokic or

1923
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 3: Luca Like, they're obviously bigger fan favorites overseas, But in

1924
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 3: this country, she has really captivated the audience who pays

1925
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 3: attention to sports, not just basketball, and I think some

1926
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 3: of it is because she's become a very polarizing character.

1927
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 4: In all of this, and I think that works.

1928
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 3: I think when you are polarizing, you are automatically popular,

1929
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 3: and as a result, you get a boost to the

1930
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 3: old Q rating that a lot of people don't get

1931
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 3: to enjoy. And for her sake, like I said, she's

1932
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 3: doing it all the right way because people will come

1933
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 3: to her with controversial questions or controversial concerns and she's like, look,

1934
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 3: I'm just here to play basketball and make my team better.

1935
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 3: So I love the way she's handled all this.

1936
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 1: Well, there's another aspect to this. Let's let's talk about this.

1937
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 2: So the original idea was in rescue and Steph Curry

1938
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 2: would be joined by Klay Thompson and Caitlin Clark, right,

1939
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 2: all these great three point shooters, And there is a

1940
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 2: theory the reason that Kaitlin Clark turned it down is

1941
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 2: she's not all that confident how well she would do.

1942
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at her numbers in the WNBA,

1943
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 2: her three point percentage as a rookie was thirty four percent.

1944
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,839
Speaker 1: That was an elite, not even close to elite.

1945
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 2: I mean even in the WNBA you have women that

1946
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 2: shoot at a forty percent clip like you do in

1947
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 2: the NBA, and as well as in Escue did last year.

1948
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 2: She may have looked at that saying, well, all the

1949
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,679
Speaker 2: spotlight would be on me and if I fall short,

1950
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 2: that's not good for my pr So I think that

1951
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 2: you know, remember there was that all that talk about

1952
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 2: the three on three league that they were going to

1953
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 2: offer you ice Cube, you know, was going to offer

1954
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 2: this huge deal to join the three on three league,

1955
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 2: And we're like, that would not be a good idea

1956
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 2: her and a half court set going against NBA players.

1957
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 2: I mean kidding me, she would be overwhelmed. So she

1958
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 2: I think she's she's playing a very smart game. She's

1959
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 2: not going to put herself in a position that could

1960
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 2: actually have an adverse effect on her popularity. And I

1961
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 2: think there was a risk, I mean risk reward, Right,

1962
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:44,919
Speaker 2: you have to think, all right, what am I risking

1963
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 2: and what's the actual reward? If I do well, is

1964
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 2: it going to raise my star? No, because my star

1965
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 2: is already there. But if I don't do well, people

1966
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,560
Speaker 2: will be all over me, like, oh man, did you

1967
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 2: want to see Kayleb Clark. She was terrible in that

1968
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 2: three point shooting and she's not gonna risk that.

1969
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of gameplay going on

1970
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: right now to keep her star alive. I'm sort of

1971
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: with you, Rich, I'm not quite sure.

1972
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 2: As you said, the WNBA is bombed on this as

1973
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 2: far as not embracing her and what she can bring

1974
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 2: to the entire league. They just seem to complain about

1975
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 2: her constantly. I saw her being interviewed where the interviewer

1976
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 2: was on ESPN was basically trying to have her admit

1977
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 2: that the only reason that your star is because of

1978
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 2: the color of your skin.

1979
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:32,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, what are you doing?

1980
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 3: I mean, this is what I mean. She's become insanely polarizing. Yeah,

1981
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 3: because of the color of her skin, because of her

1982
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 3: sexual orientation, because the fact that she's this young woman

1983
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 3: who was a superstar out of college basketball. And while

1984
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 3: there were veterans in the WNBA who have been grinding

1985
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 3: for twelve years, fifteen years, twenty years, or near twenty

1986
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 3: years in certain cases, they were complaining like, well, where's

1987
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 3: our stardom. It's like, well, I'm sorry, that's not how

1988
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 3: this works. No, You don't get to choose whether or

1989
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 3: not you're a star. Everybody else does. You know exactly

1990
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 3: the point, that's exactly it. Being a great player, a

1991
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 3: great athlete does not necessarily make you a star.

1992
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:14,799
Speaker 4: That's correct.

1993
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 1: As you say, the public decides who the stars are.

1994
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 3: I mean, look, let me let me give you two

1995
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 3: who have been playing alongside of each other for the

1996
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 3: majority of their career in the NBA.

1997
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 4: You have Lebron James.

1998
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 3: Superstar, no question about it, right, Kawhi Leonard also a

1999
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 3: finals champion, also a Finals MVP, He's won championships with

2000
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 3: different teams like But Kawhi Leonard is not a star.

2001
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 3: He's a great player, but he's not a superstar Lebron

2002
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,679
Speaker 3: James is. And now you could say, hey, it's not fair,

2003
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 3: or you could even defend how big of a star

2004
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard is if you want to. I'll entertain the

2005
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 3: debate or the conversation for sure, But I don't think

2006
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 3: it's I don't think it's even deniable to suggest that

2007
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 3: Lebron James is the bigger star.

2008
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 2: Is Shay gildess All Alexander, who arguably right now is

2009
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 2: the best player in the league, is he a star.

2010
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 3: No, no, he's a great basketball player, and nobody's going

2011
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 3: to deny that. But if you compare him to the

2012
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 3: recognizability and the acclaim around say Steph Curry, I mean,

2013
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 3: Steph Curry's the bigger star. And you could say, well,

2014
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 3: Steph Curry can't even hold Chase Jock right now, It's like,

2015
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 3: well that may be true, maybe that is true, but

2016
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, Steph's the bigger star.

2017
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: Oh easily. It's just the biggest stars in this league

2018
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: are still Lebron.

2019
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 2: And Steph that's right, and the star and they sent

2020
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 2: Tatum is not a star.

2021
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 4: No, no, he's not. He's a great basketball player.

2022
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 3: And I think in Boston he probably can't go anywhere

2023
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 3: because he'll get mobbed. They love him in Boston. But

2024
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 3: I mean, Jason Tatum is in a star. He doesn't

2025
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 3: have star power. Caitlin Clark does now the fact that

2026
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 3: you didn't sign up for the three point contest. Maybe

2027
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 3: it's public relations. Maybe somebody and her team said, hey,

2028
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 3: it would be a bad look for you. It's over exposure, etc.

2029
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 4: Etc. Maybe that's true, or maybe she just doesn't feel

2030
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:10,720
Speaker 4: like doing it, you know what I mean?

2031
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 3: Like, sometimes you have an opportunity where you go, Yeah,

2032
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 3: that's just not for me.

2033
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure why, but I'm.

2034
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 2: I just think back on a risk reward again, and

2035
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 2: she's like, all right, what, I'm risking a lot because

2036
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 2: if I don't shoot well and you could have a.

2037
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: Bad day shooting.

2038
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, she's a bad shooter, but you have a

2039
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,600
Speaker 2: bad day at the office. But under the spotlight of

2040
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 2: that kind of a competition, I mean, ian Escu didn't

2041
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 2: have anything to lose last year.

2042
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean she was a great player in.

2043
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,959
Speaker 2: The WNBA, a celebrated college player, but she wasn't.

2044
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 1: A star, no, and she shot the ball.

2045
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 2: Incredibly well, and all of a sudden, her you know,

2046
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 2: star power rose didn't overnight make her a star, certainly,

2047
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 2: but it had helped her.

2048
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: But she had nothing to lose if she didn't play well.

2049
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 2: All right, So she's a WNBA player, Do you expect

2050
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 2: her to go toe to toe with Steph Curry?

2051
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,799
Speaker 1: Come on, it wasn't a fair competition, all right, good stuff?

2052
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's find out what is trending right now,

2053
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 2: let's get all worked out.

2054
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 1: We do now.

2055
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 6: I I'm loving this.

2056
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 7: I also think the other side of this, You guys

2057
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 7: are not wrong in the various reasons as to why

2058
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:17,200
Speaker 7: maybe she chose not to, But another reason it could

2059
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 7: be really because she's trying to make the WNBA more

2060
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,679
Speaker 7: popular apps and she wants her first one.

2061
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 6: To be at the WNBA in Indy.

2062
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: Well it's it's but now here.

2063
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 4: That's a great point.

2064
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 1: But here's the thing.

2065
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 2: She she is in essence really doing this for the WNBA,

2066
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 2: really does the WNBA has done.

2067
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 1: Nothing for her.

2068
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 6: Right, No, you are not wrong. You are not wrong

2069
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 6: about that. They really have fumbled the bag when it

2070
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 6: comes to Caitlyn Clark. Absolutely, But you know.

2071
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 7: Like that's I'm not saying that she wasn't there thinking

2072
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 7: of the risk reward and doing it, But the fact

2073
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 7: that she's waiting to do her very first one in

2074
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 7: the w NBA is just going to make it more exciting.

2075
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 2: I just find it ironic that she's doing the w

2076
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 2: NBA favor when the league gets has done everything in

2077
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 2: their power to diminish the impact that she's had on

2078
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 2: that lake.

2079
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 7: Well, luckily for her, you know, the WNBA is pocket

2080
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 7: change for her.

2081
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 6: She's not doing it to make money. She's doing it

2082
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 6: because she.

2083
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: Loves like, I'm amazed she's still playing in the league

2084
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: with you.

2085
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 7: I know, I know, but I'm glad she's kind of

2086
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 7: taking time away. To be honest with you, because like

2087
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 7: you said, they haven't taken care of her. So let

2088
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 7: her step away. Let her step away. In women's college

2089
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 7: hoops today, number seven Yukon did end number fourth South

2090
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 7: Carolina's seventy one game home winning streak.

2091
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 4: Wow.

2092
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 7: Yes, eighty seven to fifty eight was the final score.

2093
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,560
Speaker 6: Their last home loss.

2094
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 7: Was December third of twenty twenty, so they don't know

2095
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 7: what it's like to lose at home until today.

2096
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 1: Awkward.

2097
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's awkward.

2098
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 6: It's awkward. You know what I mean if you're a fan.

2099
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 7: Yes, Amilrim still doing it a uk He's still doing

2100
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 7: it at Yukon.

2101
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 1: Records are unreal.

2102
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 6: Good for him, Good for him.

2103
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:01,639
Speaker 7: In men's college one game going on right now, it's

2104
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 7: been back and forth between number twenty.

2105
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 6: Four Creighton and number nine Saint John's.

2106
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 7: Creighton is on top right now, fifty three to fifty two,

2107
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 7: about twelve minutes to go. You can catch all the

2108
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,719
Speaker 7: action on FS one, Whichitas State did have an upset

2109
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,440
Speaker 7: over number fourteen Memphis eighty four to seventy nine in overtime,

2110
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 7: and Number twenty Michigan held on to defeed Ohio.

2111
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 6: State eighty six to eighty three.

2112
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 7: Yes, the NBAL Star festivities are going to wrap up

2113
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 7: with the All Star Game and in its new four

2114
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 7: team format, three games. The first one's gonna tip off

2115
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 7: at a twenty Eastern time. Other NBA news that Shay

2116
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 7: found very interesting, Rod Boone of the Charlotte Observer reports

2117
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 7: that Mark Williams has not returned to the Hornets after

2118
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 7: that trade that was rescinded with the Lakers. He has

2119
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 7: not reported to the team.

2120
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 2: Well, he's been hurt most of his time there anyway,

2121
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 2: So is there a reason.

2122
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,759
Speaker 6: There's not a lot of details. It seems more.

2123
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 7: That he's hurt, like his ego is hurt.

2124
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 6: That's more of how I'm reading Between.

2125
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: The whne Let's see, he was leaving them for the Lakers.

2126
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 6: There were three Yeah.

2127
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was excited.

2128
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 6: He was excited.

2129
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2130
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 7: It seems it's more really just ego right now with

2131
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 7: Mark Williams. The Daytona five hundred still on a rain

2132
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 7: delay again.

2133
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 6: Why are we waiting go home?

2134
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 2: No, because they have they have to do it tomorrow'll

2135
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:20,639
Speaker 2: do it, go home, Go home?

2136
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 7: Okay, the Genesis Invitational, last one hear Maverick McNeely in

2137
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 7: the lead. I'll buy himself by Himself twelve under part

2138
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 7: overall Scottie Shuffler World number one, four shots back, Okay,

2139
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:30,720
Speaker 7: back to.

2140
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 1: You guys, all right, mon so, thank you very much.

2141
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 4: Oh.

2142
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 1: By the way, don't forget after the show.

2143
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 2: Podcast is going up if you miss any of today's show.

2144
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,800
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2145
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts, then follow rate and review the

2146
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 2: podcast again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

2147
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,960
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2148
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 2: we get off the air. By the way, a programming

2149
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 2: note Rich two weeks from today, so not next Sunday.

2150
01:46:56,400 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 2: The following Sunday is Oscars. Oh yes, And if you

2151
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,680
Speaker 2: have been listening to me over the years and this

2152
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 2: show with Rich and I together for many years, we

2153
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 2: have a very special guest that joins us on Oscar Sunday.

2154
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 2: And the reason I mentioned this is this is an

2155
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 2: opportunity for you to make easy money. The man's name

2156
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 2: is Lucky Leshu and he will in a very short segment,

2157
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 2: just one quick segment. We rattle off I think there's

2158
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 2: twenty four categories and we just ask him the winner

2159
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 2: in each category. And his batting average is remarkable, not

2160
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 2: just in the major categories, all the categories. I think, Rich,

2161
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 2: it's safe to say, over the years collectively is well

2162
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 2: above ninety percent.

2163
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 1: Some years he's even been better than that.

2164
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: But we do as a service because that's one thing

2165
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 2: you can actually wager on. Now, Rich, I know you

2166
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 2: are knee deep in wagering. So anytime you have, you know,

2167
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 2: some kind of information that gives you a leg up

2168
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 2: on the competition, so to speak, it's worth listening to.

2169
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 2: So this is the reason we do that. It's not

2170
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 2: a sports segment. It's strictly a service to our listeners

2171
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 2: that if you engage in that kind of legal gambling

2172
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 2: and when a wager on the oscars and have sort

2173
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 2: of inside information, we're going to give it to you. Yeah,

2174
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:26,679
Speaker 2: because this guy has the leg up on everybody else

2175
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 2: on who actually will walk away with the oscar.

2176
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lucky Lushu is the man. He has been doing

2177
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 3: it with you for forever. But he has been an

2178
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 3: interview guest of Hours for a decade and he's been tremendous.

2179
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 3: Here's what I will say is, let's put it this way.

2180
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 3: If you've listened to any of the sports betting advice

2181
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 3: that we've doled out here on Fox Sports Sundays or

2182
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 3: Red Zone Radio in the course of the past football season,

2183
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 3: and you're thinking to yourself, like, yeah, you know some

2184
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:02,679
Speaker 3: of that worked most if it didn't, Lucky Leshu he's

2185
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 3: a lot more automatic than we are.

2186
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's we're talking a ninety percent k.

2187
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 2: If you don't believe us, go back in some of

2188
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 2: the old podcasts, tell me yeah, and you can hear

2189
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 2: his picks and like, wow, that guy like nailed like

2190
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:19,640
Speaker 2: documentaries like short subject you know, all those small categories

2191
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 2: that nobody sees anything, don't know anything. That's how good

2192
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 2: he is. So anyway, that'll be two weeks from today. Also,

2193
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 2: we're going to bring back looking for John Paul Morosi JP.

2194
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 1: How about spring training right now?

2195
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a quick question, rich As spring

2196
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:37,959
Speaker 2: training games will get started next week they've already reported,

2197
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 2: but actual games will start next week. So we heard

2198
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 2: that Shoho Tani is on the mound and he's beginning

2199
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 2: to you know, get himself ready to get back as

2200
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 2: a pitcher, but after the season he just had as

2201
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 2: a DH, which, by the way, he didn't miss any

2202
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 2: of the season and put up historic numbers. Obviously, Is

2203
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 2: it really worth the risk of him possibly being injured.

2204
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:12,840
Speaker 2: This guy's had two major arm surgeries already. Is it

2205
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 2: worth the risks of him maybe re injuring in his

2206
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 2: arm when he would be out of the lineup, even

2207
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 2: as a d H or.

2208
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: An extended period.

2209
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 2: Is it worth the risk right now for the Dodgers

2210
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 2: to go in that direction after the season he just had.

2211
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 4: You know, here's the thing.

2212
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 3: You as magical of a season as it was, there

2213
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 3: was something missing from the story, wouldn't you agree?

2214
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:39,799
Speaker 1: I agree.

2215
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2216
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:44,960
Speaker 3: When you have a player who is literally rewriting the

2217
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 3: history books.

2218
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: Never been done before.

2219
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 2: Stop with the Babe Ruth comparisons, folks, it's never been

2220
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 2: done before.

2221
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 4: You you have to let him. You have to let

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01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 4: him compete.

2223
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you have.

2224
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 4: To let him do it.

2225
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 3: So if he feels ready, and I think you can

2226
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 3: trust show Hey to have an understanding of what he's

2227
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 3: capable of, because I think he's worked through or I know,

2228
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 3: we all know he's worked through several injuries already since

2229
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 3: he's been a major League baseball player, and he's played

2230
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 3: phenomenal baseball all along. So I mean, granted, there was,

2231
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 3: you know, a time where he was still getting acclimated

2232
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 3: to the to the pros in the United States, and

2233
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 3: there was a little bit of an on ramp there.

2234
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 3: But since he's really gotten his feet wet, he's soared,

2235
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I wouldn't put any further restrictions on show, hey,

2236
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 3: outside of what he and the team of doctors and

2237
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 3: physical therapists who are handling the situation, because you have

2238
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 3: to let this.

2239
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 4: Type of athlete compete, you have to.

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Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree with you. I mean, it's

2241
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 2: worth you got to roll the dice, at least initially.

2242
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the reasons you gave him seven

2243
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in contract was his unique ability to

2244
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 2: do both and juster in the three years that he

2245
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 2: was a full time pitcher.

2246
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 1: For the Angels along as being a hitter.

2247
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 2: Let's see, his record was thirty four and sixteen, Wow,

2248
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 2: thirty four and sixteen with a sub three er and

2249
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 2: averaging about eleven strikeouts per nine innings.

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Speaker 1: Along with being a hitter. So is it worth the risk? Yeah,

2251
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely worth the risk.

2252
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 2: But you know, you got to trust and I agree

2253
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 2: with you. If you're the Dodgers, whatever you want, you

2254
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 2: call your own shots. Nobody we promise you, nobody's going

2255
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 2: to say we want you to do this if it's

2256
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 2: against your will. But you got to be honest with us.

2257
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 2: If there's any fatigue in the arm, if there are

2258
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:50,679
Speaker 2: any concerns at all, you gotta tell us. Yeah, that's

2259
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 2: all we ask, you know, just be honest with us

2260
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 2: and we'll do what we ever have to do.

2261
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 1: But I'm excited to see him get back on the mound.

2262
01:52:58,160 --> 01:52:59,679
Speaker 1: I'm excited to not wait.

2263
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 3: I think that show Heyotani brings a unique brand of

2264
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 3: baseball to a sport that's really desperately needed a shot

2265
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 3: in the arm, no question. And there've been a couple

2266
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 3: of different I don't want to say failures to launch,

2267
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:18,480
Speaker 3: but superstars in baseball who haven't really created the gravity

2268
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 3: that show Heyotani has created. You know, you look at

2269
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 3: Bryce Harper for years and years trying to help shepherd

2270
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 3: in a new era of younger baseball fans and more

2271
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:33,759
Speaker 3: wide interest. It didn't really pan out. Same with Mike Trout.

2272
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 3: Aaron Judge, I mean, Aaron Judge is exciting, but he's

2273
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 3: kind of long in the tooth. He started his baseball

2274
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 3: career at what twenty eight, you know, I mean at

2275
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 3: the major league level. He kind of toiled in the

2276
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 3: minor leagues for a long time. So it's not gonna

2277
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:49,679
Speaker 3: last very long.

2278
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 4: Show.

2279
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:55,599
Speaker 3: Heyotani gives you a longer on ramp to enjoy the

2280
01:53:55,840 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 3: majesty and the towering ability of his of his game.

2281
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 3: And I hope he's able to sustain. I hope he's

2282
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 3: able to pitch and hit at the level that he's

2283
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 3: capable of for a long time because he could really

2284
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 3: reinvigorate baseball.

2285
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge, by the way, he will be thirty three

2286
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,719
Speaker 2: in April's you're right about that. By the way, show,

2287
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 2: he will be thirty one in July, so we're gonna

2288
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 2: have to see how that arm holds up. All right, Well,

2289
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 2: can talk about a big week ahead? And wow, this

2290
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 2: All Star weekend continues. This is Fox Sports Sunday. I

2291
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 2: don't know, I you ed, so we cut back an

2292
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 2: hour once the football season is over. That was fast

2293
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 2: that flew, buddy, I mean like wow, I was like

2294
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 2: ready coming up and there not there is that.

2295
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 4: No, there's nothing next.

2296
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 1: But not us.

2297
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 4: There's plenty.

2298
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 2: I want to thank Moncey is always brilliant. I've been

2299
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: recommending some horror movies.

2300
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

2301
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 7: In fact, if you have any, rich I love horror.

2302
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 6: The scarier the better.

2303
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 1: And I gave her one that really good.

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01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 6: Don't really enjoyed it.

2305
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 1: I have another one on our list.

2306
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 6: Yes, I really enjoyed it.

2307
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 1: The movie. What's that actually the name of the movie. Oh, yeah,

2308
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 1: well actually it was years ago. Strange Darling, Strange Darling.

2309
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 1: He recommended it.

2310
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 6: It's really good.

2311
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 7: It's it's just not a typical movie and it's not

2312
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 7: like like scary pop No, it's not old, but it's

2313
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 7: just it's it's a different take and it's not like.

2314
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:40,080
Speaker 6: Pop out spooky scary.

2315
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 1: By the way, it's only an hour and a half

2316
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 1: it is, which is lovely.

2317
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's uncomfortable, it's suspenseful. It's because it's in

2318
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 7: the acting was phenomenon.

2319
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: And very original, very very original. Chris doing his brilliant job.

2320
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 2: Yes, we always thank you, Chris.

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01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 8: I'm always here and hanging on and it's trying to

2322
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 8: go through the throws without football, right.

2323
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 1: I know.

2324
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 2: Well, I got good news for you in a second

2325
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 2: for UFL. No, I'm not talking about I didn't look

2326
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 2: up the UFL schedule and then.

2327
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 1: I stopped myself on the TVs. Whether you like it

2328
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 1: or not, I know it will be.

2329
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 4: Well.

2330
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 1: That's that's better than pickleball, which we had on to God.

2331
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: That is painful.

2332
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 2: That is not a sport. By the way, if you

2333
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 2: play pickleball, you're not an athlete. I'm not saying athletes

2334
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 2: can't as a plane. Pickle ball does not make you

2335
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 2: an athall is not athletic. No, it's not at all.

2336
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 2: Who I work up with sweat, good for you. That's

2337
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 2: really about your lack of conditioning that you're working up

2338
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 2: such a sweat Plaine.

2339
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 4: Pickle or maybe it's warm out.

2340
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, and Shade stepping in today, Shaye, uh, great

2341
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 2: to have you here.

2342
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 1: Hey, guys, it's amazing working with you.

2343
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 4: Guys.

2344
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 10: Are kidding me? No, honestly, I was so boring today.

2345
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

2346
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 10: Back to Bernie, Yeah, thank you you guys.

2347
01:56:58,360 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 4: It was a good time.

2348
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:00,080
Speaker 1: We thank you very much.

2349
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 2: I do have good news as far as the NFL

2350
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 2: is concerned. So we talk about the NFL is never

2351
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 2: out of the news. So coming up on February eighteenth,

2352
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 2: which is Tuesday, that is the day when teams can

2353
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 2: start designating franchise or transition players.

2354
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so that begins that process.

2355
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 2: So it's always interesting as you go into free agency

2356
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 2: and everything else, trying to work contracts and then all

2357
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:29,240
Speaker 2: of a sudden you tab some a franchise player. Of

2358
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 2: course they have to agree to that tag, so that

2359
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 2: begins that process. And then rich if you can believe it.

2360
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 2: So today is the sixteenth, am. I right, sixteenth of February.

2361
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,040
Speaker 2: We are just eight days away from the start of

2362
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 2: the scouting combine.

2363
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 4: Wow.

2364
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, eight days away at Lucas Oil Stateium in Indianapolis.

2365
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:51,120
Speaker 4: I like that.

2366
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 2: They never leave Indy for that. That's an Indie event.

2367
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 2: You know, there's been talk they're going to move it around. No, no, no,

2368
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 2: just keep it an.

2369
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: Indy that works.

2370
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 2: So you know, it's all good stuff coming out as

2371
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 2: far as the National Football League to get ready for

2372
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. And then we begin the process as

2373
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 2: we start already thinking about you know, some of the

2374
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 2: off season moves and guys going everywhere.

2375
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 1: Talking earlier about Aaron Rodgers, is he even gonna play

2376
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, and if if he does, is

2377
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 1: he gonna be? I just again, don't don't. I would

2378
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 1: beg Aaron Rodgers. Don't be the quarterback of the Raiders.

2379
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Yeah, it doesn't serve you because you're

2380
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 1: not gonna win a super Bowl with the Raiders next year. Yeah,

2381
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 1: I promise you're not.

2382
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 2: They got brock Bowers and nothing else. Could he make

2383
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 2: them a little better? Yet they're not gonna be super

2384
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 2: Bowl contenders And you're not really doing the Raiders any

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Speaker 2: service because how long are you gonna be there? Is

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Speaker 2: there a quarterback they have that you're gonna mentor maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe if they draft let's say, uh Shudour Sanders, Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe you know, but you have Tom Brady there.

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Speaker 1: He can tutor him.

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Speaker 3: Can I've gotten out of the habit of saying never,

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Speaker 3: because I'm constantly amazed by especially the abilities of great

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Speaker 3: athletes like I remember there was a long stretch where

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Speaker 3: people would say, after the back surgery or the second

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Speaker 3: back surgery or the third, hey, Tiger Woods is never

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Speaker 3: going to win a major again, and then he went

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Speaker 3: out and won the Masters on it.

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Speaker 2: That's not an individual event that's he wasn't dependent on

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Speaker 2: other people.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I get that, But my point being, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what the future for Aaron Rodgers is. But

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Speaker 3: if I were in his situation, I would be picky.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't just sign it.

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Speaker 2: But in any situation, I mean again, if you're San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: they apparently have decided we're going to move forward with

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Speaker 2: brock party.

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Speaker 1: Is that a good decision?

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Speaker 2: If the Minnesota Vikings also are, like, yeah, Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: forget those last two games, he was good enough, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna move forward for him.

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Speaker 1: Are that Is that the right decision for those franchises?

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Speaker 3: I think in case of San Francisco, yeah, that's probably

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Speaker 3: what's right. In the case of Minnesota Vikings, they drafted J. J. McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: I think they've got to move on and kick the

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Speaker 3: tires on the front first round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting how that plays.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: That's good news, all right.

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Speaker 2: So Rich is going to give us a complete breakdown

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Speaker 2: next week of what we saw in the NBA All

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Speaker 2: Star Games. You gotta break it down play by play.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to that much more coming up here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.