WEBVTT - #427 Packers Unscripted: Week 1 is here 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:20.720 Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.959 I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my partner in crime, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.720 West Hodkoits were coming to you here from our studios 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.640 at Lambeufield and West. We made it. It is we run. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:35.080 It is Packers Bears kicking off the NFL season on 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.440 Thursday Night football and we have a lot of Packers 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.960 Bear stuff to get to today and over the next 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.599 couple of days leading up to Thursday. But we need 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.800 to review this Packers fifty three man roster first because 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.400 it was a busy weekend. At sixty five, the roster 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.880 cuts were made, the waiver period occurred, these guys were 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.640 signed to the practice squad. The Packers have their fifty 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.160 three man roster for now West and on it. There 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.560 only two quarterbacks. There are nine offensive linemen. There seven cornerbacks. 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:06.320 Where do you want to start with this? I think 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.240 you want to start with the quarterbacks. Um me speaking 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:10.800 for both of us, I guess when I say that. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.959 But it's the story that everybody followed throughout training camp 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.160 in the preseason, and typically it's always the one that 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.480 is on the tip of everyone's tongue. And in this 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.559 particular case, it ends up being Tim Boyle that gets 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.440 the nod here to be the backup to Aaron Rodgers. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.240 They bring back Manny Wilkins on the practice squad to 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.279 Shaun Kaiser has waived, he ends up with John Gruden 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.319 now in Oakland. From Boyle's perspective, what a story this 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.240 has become for this young man. I mean when you 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:40.000 we've talked about a nauseum now about the the journey 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.240 he traveled coming from the route that he did, the 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.040 adversity had to overcome at Yukon, and I just thought 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.960 it spoke volumes about his development. That you can talk 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.160 about the six touchdowns, you can talk about the you know, 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.680 the drives, the three consecutive scoring drives against Oakland, but 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.040 what really stands out to me the most is no interceptions. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.280 And that was sort of his bugaboo a little bit 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.040 when he was coming into the league, was you know, 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.320 turning over the football. But you know, the people I've 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.000 talked to about him have said a lot of those 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.720 things were just circumstantial in college, and I think to 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.680 his point, he feels like he needs to still grow. 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.040 There's still a lot of potential in front of him, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.120 but to be in this position now, to be the 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.320 primary backup Daron Rodgers, I think it's something that's well 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.320 deserved for Boyle. Well, I think the biggest thing you 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.919 said it was if you look at where Tim Boyle 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.640 is now compared to where he was as a college player, 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.200 it's that somehow, some way he's learned to protect the 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.600 football because he the numbers in college said it all 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.320 in terms of the times that the ball was being 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.480 turned over, and really, when you look at it, we 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.639 talked about long shot stories and training camp and how 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.760 this guy makes it, and this guy really, you know, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.960 has a shot. You know, maybe maybe not, But if 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.680 you looked at Tim Boyle's college statistics when he first 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.880 signed as an undrafted rookie with the Packers and said 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:59.079 that guy two years later is going to be Aaron 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:03.280 Rodgers back up for the Green May Packers offense, nobody 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.560 would have believed that. And that's just a credit to 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.400 Tim Boyle and the progress that he's made, you know it. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.679 I don't want to use all the cliches about nose 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.320 to the grindstone and everything like that, but this is 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.960 a guy who has gone about everything the right way, 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:22.160 even down to when there are twenty five reporters crowded 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.640 around Aaron Rodgers locker to ask him questions. Tim Boyle 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.280 is standing off to the side listening to how the 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.320 a number one two time m v P quarterback is 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:37.560 answering those questions. So, oh, hello, you guys. What's going on? 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:43.160 You guys? Who are you? Guys are on? Yeah? All right? Hey, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:47.360 well should we do this? You want to jump in? Yeah? 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.360 This is all you don't have anything, but you don't 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.360 have anything going on. We can do this, all right. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.840 You can take this over. You don't even need the chair. 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.600 You can just jump into my spot. No, let's just 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.480 kick it. What do you guys got We're talking about 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.280 Tim Boyle. I don't know if audio wise you're gonna 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.119 be able to pick up though. Does this amplify enough? 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:05.880 We were talking about Tim Boyle and the fact that 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.920 he deserved it. You being someone that came from, you know, 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.400 a smaller school when an indirect route, I mean, I 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.720 guess you could probably relate to his story a little bit. Yeah, 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.240 I love his story. I mean, he bounced around a 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.479 little in college, but then he gets here to the NFL, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:24.200 works his way up from uh from being relatively unknown, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.239 and here he is now he's the number two quarterback 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.919 for the Green Bay Packers, behind Aaron Rodgers, a future 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.680 Hall of Famer. Absolutely John Kon jumping in with us 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.239 here at Packers unscripted. We're going unscripted here at this point. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.360 This is totally unscripted, honest to goodness, folks. But when 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.200 we're talking about long shot stories, though, we also have 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.599 to talk about Darius Shepard, the undrafted rookie wide receiver 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.880 from North Dakota State, and you talk about what's on paper, 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.000 as I just mentioned with Boil, when a guy arrives okay, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:56.880 five ft nine from an FCS school, coming into a 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.760 wide receiver group that has Davante Adams, has redraft picks 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.000 from the previous year, has Geronimo Allison, an established pro, 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.080 and here this guy, Darius Shepherd, ends up making the 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.960 fifty three man roster. Again, hats off to a guy 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.640 who did everything the right way to get where he is. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.760 So I was racking my brain about this. Do you 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.640 ever recall, either your time in Green Bay, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.040 a guy that came in as a trialut player and 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.720 made the fifty three as a rookie because Lucas Patrick 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:24.960 did it, but it was a year after he was 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.479 on the practice squad. The last did it, it was 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.200 year after on The last guy who did it in 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.080 Green Bay was Jared Boykin in two thousand and twelve. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.880 But even his story is a little bit different because 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.159 he was signed by the Jacksonville Jaguars right after the draft. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.640 But then the Jaguars released him almost immediately because they 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.800 found another guy whatever, they didn't have a spot on 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.240 the ninety man roster. So then Boyken comes to Green 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.080 Bay as a tryout guy on rookie orientation weekend, then 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.680 ends up getting a contract and makes the fifty three 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.640 as a rookie. Darius Shepherd. Nobody signed him after the draft, 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:01.240 absolutely nobody, and his tryout opportunity was in Green Bay 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.200 and he came out of that tryout camp and got 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.240 a contract. And one of the more impressive things that 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.120 I've ever seen when you look at the position that 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.359 the Packers were in, they had three returning receivers that 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.600 were all draft picks the previous year. Jake Kumero established 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.320 himself in this offense. Gerano Allison was coming back from 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.760 the core injury and then Trevor Davis, who everybody sort 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.680 of forgot about. He ends up having a tremendous camps 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.359 wait for Shephard to do that. When you look at it, 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.120 Trevor Davis really had probably the best camp and it 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.120 came at such a great time because the wide receiver position, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.120 albeit young, was pretty deep there. At one point in time, 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.480 it was nine guys that you could see making the roster. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.840 So for what he did in news last two preseason games, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.400 he really made to claim like, hey, I'm here. Don't 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.800 you forget about me yet? And I think he's going 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.640 to be an integral part of this offense. And it's 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.600 really interesting too. I'm gonna put this in a story 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.280 that will be on Packers dot Com later this week, 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.640 but Davante Adams recounted this where the right when the 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.920 rookies had signed the first I think it was an 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.240 IPW practice where they all get integrated in with everybody else. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.479 Matt Lafleur, the coaching staff had all of the rookies 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.800 stand in front of the room and say state what 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.320 they're signing. Bonus was Darius Shepherd had to go after 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.520 Darnell Savage. Darnell Savage goes up there, however, many seven 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.239 figure numbers. Darius Shepherd goes Darius Shepherd, North Dakota State 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:24.440 zero dollars, zero dollars dollars. Now, the other thing I 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.200 will say to and I may be completely off my 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.040 rocker here, but there's a part of me when I 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.120 saw that Shepherd had made this roster and what you 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.200 said John about Trevor Davis, and we talked about how 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.080 he came on so strong in the early part of 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.800 camp and then when he came back after the injury, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.560 and the role that I think that type of receiver 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.120 has in this offense. It made me wonder when Shepherd 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.320 made the team, if that's the hedge against if something 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.120 were to happen again to Davis, that Matt Lafleur doesn't 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.720 lose that type of player. He's got another guy, a small, 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.920 speedy guy, a return guy, all those things that Davis 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.600 brings show Eppard also brings, and it doesn't go completely 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.280 out the window just because you know something might happen 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.200 to Davis. Yeah, And the other thing you want to 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.200 avoid two is Tremon Williams. As much as you tipped 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:11.920 your cap to him last year for jumping in on 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.480 punt returns. That wasn't the plan, right, You want to 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.000 have multiple options. I think Shepherd gives him that spot. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.680 I think they're they may be hedging bets now with 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.720 the roster being set, but I think it was those 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.640 first two weeks when Trevor missed because of the practice 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.600 injury with the Texans that Darius really stepped up and said, hey, 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.560 look at me, guys. I think that's where he made 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.440 his name, so indirectly, directly either way, they're both on 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.000 the roster. Can I ask one questions if we're really 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:40.280 going off script, Danny vitally sticks as the fullback. You 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.000 got a chance to talk to him a little bit, obviously, 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.480 spend some time with him, you know during training camp 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.719 when you look at the fullback position and how it's 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.400 evolving now in the NFL. To me, and not to 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.040 lead you into the question, but it just seems like 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.640 he's the perfect embodiment of kind of what you're looking 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.040 for from that position in two thousand. Yeah, I mean, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.679 he missed a couple of preseason games and and and 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.760 I know that limited what we got to see him 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.240 in the preseason, but when you look at the upside 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.520 for what he can do, he really runs routes like 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.120 a tight end. He's a little bit smaller than a 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.280 tight end, but he runs routes very similar to a 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.640 tight end, which is which is great to having this 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.560 offense because there's a lot of fullback wheel routes and 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.800 and and seem routes and stuff down the field twenty 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.480 yard receptions, uh downfield for a fullback, which is not 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.240 something that you see in a lot of offenses. So 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.080 you need to be versatile in that aspect. And with 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.080 kind of being nimble in the same mind, he needs 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:30.640 to get through the line, he needs to get his 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.000 read to the mic, to the safety, to the sam 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.760 whoever he's blocking on the outside zone plays, and I 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.040 mean he's got the versatility to do all of that well. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.640 And you got to have three Northwestern guys there is 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.160 that you got Lowry Lancaster now Danny Visce. How could 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.280 I guess that you're going to work that in somehow? 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.080 Of course I had to. 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And Matt Nagy, 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.040 he's getting ready for the Bears for his first game 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.960 as a head coach. It's against the arch rival Packers, 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.320 it's on national television Sunday Night football, is opposed to 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:41.520 Thursday Night football, but the circumstances are eerily similar. And uh, 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.800 I just I find it interesting that now that Matt 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.760 Lafleur is almost exactly in Matt nagy shoes from a 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.760 year ago. It's really quite an interesting situation for the 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.679 Packers to be in right now. And Aaron Rodgers even 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.320 said a thirty to forty percent of the time, you're 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.040 gonna see a lot of unscouted looks in a game 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.200 like this, But the part of this matchup that intrigues 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.320 me the most is the fact that you have Mike 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.599 Petton coming back with his defense, and you have Matteggie 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.840 coming back with his offense. But now you've got Matt 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.720 Lafleur in his offense and Chuck Pagano picking up where 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.280 Vic Fangio left off with the Bears defense. Everyone knows 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.199 what the Bears are capable of. You look at it, 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.480 it's just a murderer's row of talent that they have, 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:19.240 particularly in that front seven. So seeing exactly how this 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.360 new fangled offense that the Packers have, and Aaron Rodgers said, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:23.880 you know, you gotta be patient with it. It's gonna 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.120 be a work in progress. But seeing how that matches 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.320 up with probably one of the stiffest test it's gonna 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.640 face this entire season, it's gonna be a big heat 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.840 of victory. Yeah. And I'd like to get John's perspective 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:34.920 here while we have him, because we hear a lot 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.160 from guys like Rogers, from coaches about all the unscouted 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.520 looks early in the season, especially the first three or 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.040 four games. So from your time in the league, just 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:47.960 how different is September football because of all the newness 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.160 of everything and what guy's hot. You know, they hide 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.080 stuff and don't put it on film in the preseason 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.640 and all that. How different is September football from the 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.079 rest of the regular season is pretty different, and especially 0:11:58.120 --> 0:11:59.800 the first game because the second game you have a 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.199 day of work, you can draw frame. But this first game, 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.200 the Bears are going to be watching our preseason games, 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.760 but they're gonna be pulling up stuff from uh when 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.920 the floor was in l a and when the flour 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.240 was in Atlanta, and they're gonna be saying, this is 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.000 what the Packers are gonna They're gonna be trying to 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.160 hit us with stuff with this, just like we're gonna 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.440 be showing these guys stuff. And when Chuck Pegana was 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.800 in India right how when he was in Baltimore and 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.640 saying this is kind of more what the defense is 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.320 gonna look here from Chicago than what it looked last year. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.320 But to Chicago's defense, their three or four defenses, there 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.760 three or four defense. These guys playing the same positions, 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.440 they're just playing a little bit different of a play 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.920 calling style. Chicago definitely has they have the edge on 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.440 the learning curve with their new coordinator versus us, but 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.600 nobody knows what this is gonna Look, you haven't seen 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.520 an offense like this with Aaron Rodgers. It's hopefully when 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.240 we open that present on Thursday night, that that Christmas 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.640 present we've been waiting for for weeks. It's a big 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.800 shiny toy and it comes out perfect. So this, this 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.480 challenge against the Bears defense is really some done because 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.040 you look, you look at what that Chicago Bears defense 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.840 did last year. First in the league and takeaways. They 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.040 actually scored six defensive touchdowns last year, which is a 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.000 pretty remarkable number. They were first in the league in 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.280 yards allowed, I believe, first in the league in points allowed, 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:19.680 first in the league against the run, um and from 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:24.120 personnel standpoint, you know Khalil Mack, Akeem Hicks, Leonard Floyd, 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:28.000 Roquan Smith, all those guys in the front seven are 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.880 still there. The biggest change really is the is the 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.880 safety swap between the two teams. Adrian Amos now in 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.800 Green Bay. Haha, Clinton dis is uh is in Chicago. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.800 So how do you see this? Uh, this Bears defense? 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.440 I guess my question to us is just how different 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.800 do you think this Bears defense is gonna be with 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.120 Chuck Begonald versus Vic Fangio when there's been so little 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.480 change in personnel. Yeah, it's really I think going to 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.480 come down to that secondary in the fact that you 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.600 have Busker scrind now too as in there as their 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.240 nickel after one of the changes at that spot as well. 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.880 Adrian Amos had been sort of the the leader, the captain, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.480 the guy that brings everything together and to be honest 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.160 with you, is talented. As Eddie Jackson was coming out 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.200 of Alabama and coming off the injury that he did. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.920 I think Amos Not to take any credit away from Jackson, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.720 I think Amos, I mean, that's great to have a 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.640 veteran like that that's been in the league that started 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.679 every game that he's played, working alongside you in that 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.760 in that capacity. Seeing how Clinton Dix, you know, moves 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.560 into that spot, Davante Adams said, even you know, he's 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.360 one of his best friends. You know, they go back 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.480 a long way. They entered the league at the same time. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.160 But he has a few new tricks for him as 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.480 well that he wants to show. So you know what 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.240 you're gonna get with Mac. You know, everybody in that front, 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.280 I mean me personally, I look at real Kan Smith. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.160 I think that's one of the most exciting young inside 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.280 linebackers in this game. Danny Raven right next to him, 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:49.240 So that standpoint, you know what you're gonna get. It's 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.680 that secondary and seeing how Aaron Rodgers reacts to it 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.760 is gonna be the big thing to follow because outside, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:55.760 Kyle Furler is as good as they come. Yeah, Kyle 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.880 Fuller certainly a veteran cornerback that Aaron Rodgers and these 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.320 Packers receivers of based numerous times. John, what's your take 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.000 on this whole The switch of the safety's the how 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.800 Clinton Dix is now in Chicago and Adrian Amos is 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.840 in Green Bay. It's going to be a storyline a 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.400 lot of people want to talk about ultimately. Do you 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.560 think it will Do you think that change in personnel 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.120 specifically will have a big impact on this game. I 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.760 believe it will have a big impact down the stretch 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.920 of the season, but in this game specifically, the only 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.080 way it could possibly have an impact is these guys 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.680 have seen these skill players on the other teams, so 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.400 they kind of know how they run routes. They kind 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.080 of have tells or so they think these guys could 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.080 be set up for something by one of these receivers. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.880 And I know what DeVante is talking about. He ha 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:39.840 ha has played against them for years. He knows what 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.080 he routes he's gonna run, But does he You know, 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.480 they can come out with a double move or kind 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.480 of one of the bite routes where it looks like 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.440 he's going to the post and come back. So so 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:52.120 so that that being said, it's only if they really, 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.600 really epically failed would impact this game. I think the 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.080 true test of this game is the run offense for 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.800 our guys versus the number one rush defense from a 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.880 year ago. We now run the outside zone, which is 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.520 perfect for this defense because the chem Hicks is the 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.440 run stuff for this defense. We gotta get him running 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.960 sideways early on. But which way do we run? Do 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.640 we run at Mac? He's so good at stopping a run, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.800 you might want to make him chase down on the backside, 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:20.640 but he's that fast too, say he's pretty good at backside. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.560 That's the hardest part is Max Still. You know you 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.080 want to get a team Knicks moving with or a 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.760 cheam Hicks moving with with the front with the outside zone, 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.480 But which way do you run? Do you run at 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.400 MC or do you run away from him? Yeah, no doubt. 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.520 And also from the standpoint too, but this game breaks down. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.440 I mean, we haven't seen Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams yet, 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.120 and that's what I was guys end of playing in 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.200 this preseason. And as Aaron Rodgers said, that isn't going 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.080 to dictate anything. If they come out slow, it's not 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:46.720 because they didn't play in the preseason. If they come 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.480 out fast, it's not gonna because they didn't play in 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.440 the preseason and we're arrested. But seeing how Aaron Jones 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.400 I mean to me, that was the biggest storyline of 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.600 the off season, other than everyone making a big thing 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.400 out of the Floor and Rogers, is the fact that 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.960 what the flour has done with running backs in the past, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.240 what that offense has done, how they incorporate them in 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.399 the passing game, how they get them open in space. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.920 Aaron Jones is perfect for it, and Jamal Williams is 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.560 a natural pass catcher. And will there be a pitch count? 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.400 I mean, these guys have not played in a game yet. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.720 Now there's gonna be seventy players on offense. What's the 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.280 pitch count gonna be Aaron Jones has never touched the 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:19.840 ball more than twenty times in the game, yet the 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.600 averages five point five yards of carry. I'd like to 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.320 see him touch the ball on Yeah. Yeah, Well, when 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.040 we look at what's going on with the Green Bay 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.639 Packers right now, the first full practice in preparation for 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.280 the Bears was on Sunday, and a couple of things 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.679 from an injury standpoint. Jimmy Graham, who has been dealing 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.480 with a finger injury, he missed some time at the 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.800 end of training camp, he was back on the practice field. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.280 And Kevin King, who has been out essentially since Family 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.080 Night with a hamstring issue, he was also back on 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.160 the practice field. So the Packers working their way back 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.119 here to try to get as close to full strength 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.359 as possible for this opener. Yeah, and they did everything 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.800 they could to get to this spot and being as 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.320 healthy as possible. And it's especially given this time frame 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:02.760 that they were given. I mean, I don't know how 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:04.560 many times you opened up on a Thursday night or 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.520 how you know, Mike McCarthy handled it, But when you 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.000 have a seven day timeline like that, you have to 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.600 be cognizant of your guys. I thought Matt Lafleur did 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.680 that for the most part. I mean there's a couple 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.200 role players that were ingrained in that rotation against Kansas City, 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.560 but for the most part, it was about making sure 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.280 that Okay, we're gonna have a healthy fifty throughout their 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:26.000 healthy forty six out there going into Chicago. And as 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:27.959 Aaron Rodgers said, there may be a couple of pebbles 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:29.600 along the road, but as long as you have your 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.640 main guys in your core offense and defense available, you'll 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.720 have the horses to get through. Well, they bubble wrapped 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.000 these starters in the preseason. I just want to get 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.119 him to the games. It's it's it's why. I mean, 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.040 the preseason will will definitely change. But where the Packers 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.399 truly lucked out as they had four Thursday night preseason 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.840 games in a row. This weekly schedule is their new 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:52.040 weekly schedule. I mean you you basically walk in her 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:53.680 on Sunday and say, well, this is our Wednesday, and 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.840 everybody knows it. Yeah, yeah, And and that routine is 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.840