Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my partner in crime,
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Speaker 1: It is Packers Bears kicking off the NFL season on
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football and we have a lot of Packers
Speaker 1: Bear stuff to get to today and over the next
Speaker 1: couple of days leading up to Thursday. But we need
Speaker 1: to review this Packers fifty three man roster first because
Speaker 1: it was a busy weekend. At sixty five, the roster
Speaker 1: cuts were made, the waiver period occurred, these guys were
Speaker 1: signed to the practice squad. The Packers have their fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster for now West and on it. There
Speaker 1: only two quarterbacks. There are nine offensive linemen. There seven cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: Where do you want to start with this? I think
Speaker 1: you want to start with the quarterbacks. Um me speaking
Speaker 1: for both of us, I guess when I say that.
Speaker 1: But it's the story that everybody followed throughout training camp
Speaker 1: in the preseason, and typically it's always the one that
Speaker 1: is on the tip of everyone's tongue. And in this
Speaker 1: particular case, it ends up being Tim Boyle that gets
Speaker 1: the nod here to be the backup to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: They bring back Manny Wilkins on the practice squad to
Speaker 1: Shaun Kaiser has waived, he ends up with John Gruden
Speaker 1: now in Oakland. From Boyle's perspective, what a story this
Speaker 1: has become for this young man. I mean when you
Speaker 1: we've talked about a nauseum now about the the journey
Speaker 1: he traveled coming from the route that he did, the
Speaker 1: adversity had to overcome at Yukon, and I just thought
Speaker 1: it spoke volumes about his development. That you can talk
Speaker 1: about the six touchdowns, you can talk about the you know,
Speaker 1: the drives, the three consecutive scoring drives against Oakland, but
Speaker 1: what really stands out to me the most is no interceptions.
Speaker 1: And that was sort of his bugaboo a little bit
Speaker 1: when he was coming into the league, was you know,
Speaker 1: turning over the football. But you know, the people I've
Speaker 1: talked to about him have said a lot of those
Speaker 1: things were just circumstantial in college, and I think to
Speaker 1: his point, he feels like he needs to still grow.
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of potential in front of him,
Speaker 1: but to be in this position now, to be the
Speaker 1: primary backup Daron Rodgers, I think it's something that's well
Speaker 1: deserved for Boyle. Well, I think the biggest thing you
Speaker 1: said it was if you look at where Tim Boyle
Speaker 1: is now compared to where he was as a college player,
Speaker 1: it's that somehow, some way he's learned to protect the
Speaker 1: football because he the numbers in college said it all
Speaker 1: in terms of the times that the ball was being
Speaker 1: turned over, and really, when you look at it, we
Speaker 1: talked about long shot stories and training camp and how
Speaker 1: this guy makes it, and this guy really, you know,
Speaker 1: has a shot. You know, maybe maybe not, But if
Speaker 1: you looked at Tim Boyle's college statistics when he first
Speaker 1: signed as an undrafted rookie with the Packers and said
Speaker 1: that guy two years later is going to be Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers back up for the Green May Packers offense, nobody
Speaker 1: would have believed that. And that's just a credit to
Speaker 1: Tim Boyle and the progress that he's made, you know it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to use all the cliches about nose
Speaker 1: to the grindstone and everything like that, but this is
Speaker 1: a guy who has gone about everything the right way,
Speaker 1: even down to when there are twenty five reporters crowded
Speaker 1: around Aaron Rodgers locker to ask him questions. Tim Boyle
Speaker 1: is standing off to the side listening to how the
Speaker 1: a number one two time m v P quarterback is
Speaker 1: answering those questions. So, oh, hello, you guys. What's going on?
Speaker 1: You guys? Who are you? Guys are on? Yeah? All right? Hey,
Speaker 1: well should we do this? You want to jump in? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is all you don't have anything, but you don't
Speaker 1: have anything going on. We can do this, all right.
Speaker 1: You can take this over. You don't even need the chair.
Speaker 1: You can just jump into my spot. No, let's just
Speaker 1: kick it. What do you guys got We're talking about
Speaker 1: Tim Boyle. I don't know if audio wise you're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to pick up though. Does this amplify enough?
Speaker 1: We were talking about Tim Boyle and the fact that
Speaker 1: he deserved it. You being someone that came from, you know,
Speaker 1: a smaller school when an indirect route, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess you could probably relate to his story a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love his story. I mean, he bounced around a
Speaker 1: little in college, but then he gets here to the NFL,
Speaker 1: works his way up from uh from being relatively unknown,
Speaker 1: and here he is now he's the number two quarterback
Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers, behind Aaron Rodgers, a future
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Absolutely John Kon jumping in with us
Speaker 1: here at Packers unscripted. We're going unscripted here at this point.
Speaker 1: This is totally unscripted, honest to goodness, folks. But when
Speaker 1: we're talking about long shot stories, though, we also have
Speaker 1: to talk about Darius Shepard, the undrafted rookie wide receiver
Speaker 1: from North Dakota State, and you talk about what's on paper,
Speaker 1: as I just mentioned with Boil, when a guy arrives okay,
Speaker 1: five ft nine from an FCS school, coming into a
Speaker 1: wide receiver group that has Davante Adams, has redraft picks
Speaker 1: from the previous year, has Geronimo Allison, an established pro,
Speaker 1: and here this guy, Darius Shepherd, ends up making the
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. Again, hats off to a guy
Speaker 1: who did everything the right way to get where he is.
Speaker 1: So I was racking my brain about this. Do you
Speaker 1: ever recall, either your time in Green Bay, Pittsburgh, New Orleans,
Speaker 1: a guy that came in as a trialut player and
Speaker 1: made the fifty three as a rookie because Lucas Patrick
Speaker 1: did it, but it was a year after he was
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. The last did it, it was
Speaker 1: year after on The last guy who did it in
Speaker 1: Green Bay was Jared Boykin in two thousand and twelve.
Speaker 1: But even his story is a little bit different because
Speaker 1: he was signed by the Jacksonville Jaguars right after the draft.
Speaker 1: But then the Jaguars released him almost immediately because they
Speaker 1: found another guy whatever, they didn't have a spot on
Speaker 1: the ninety man roster. So then Boyken comes to Green
Speaker 1: Bay as a tryout guy on rookie orientation weekend, then
Speaker 1: ends up getting a contract and makes the fifty three
Speaker 1: as a rookie. Darius Shepherd. Nobody signed him after the draft,
Speaker 1: absolutely nobody, and his tryout opportunity was in Green Bay
Speaker 1: and he came out of that tryout camp and got
Speaker 1: a contract. And one of the more impressive things that
Speaker 1: I've ever seen when you look at the position that
Speaker 1: the Packers were in, they had three returning receivers that
Speaker 1: were all draft picks the previous year. Jake Kumero established
Speaker 1: himself in this offense. Gerano Allison was coming back from
Speaker 1: the core injury and then Trevor Davis, who everybody sort
Speaker 1: of forgot about. He ends up having a tremendous camps
Speaker 1: wait for Shephard to do that. When you look at it,
Speaker 1: Trevor Davis really had probably the best camp and it
Speaker 1: came at such a great time because the wide receiver position,
Speaker 1: albeit young, was pretty deep there. At one point in time,
Speaker 1: it was nine guys that you could see making the roster.
Speaker 1: So for what he did in news last two preseason games,
Speaker 1: he really made to claim like, hey, I'm here. Don't
Speaker 1: you forget about me yet? And I think he's going
Speaker 1: to be an integral part of this offense. And it's
Speaker 1: really interesting too. I'm gonna put this in a story
Speaker 1: that will be on Packers dot Com later this week,
Speaker 1: but Davante Adams recounted this where the right when the
Speaker 1: rookies had signed the first I think it was an
Speaker 1: IPW practice where they all get integrated in with everybody else.
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, the coaching staff had all of the rookies
Speaker 1: stand in front of the room and say state what
Speaker 1: they're signing. Bonus was Darius Shepherd had to go after
Speaker 1: Darnell Savage. Darnell Savage goes up there, however, many seven
Speaker 1: figure numbers. Darius Shepherd goes Darius Shepherd, North Dakota State
Speaker 1: zero dollars, zero dollars dollars. Now, the other thing I
Speaker 1: will say to and I may be completely off my
Speaker 1: rocker here, but there's a part of me when I
Speaker 1: saw that Shepherd had made this roster and what you
Speaker 1: said John about Trevor Davis, and we talked about how
Speaker 1: he came on so strong in the early part of
Speaker 1: camp and then when he came back after the injury,
Speaker 1: and the role that I think that type of receiver
Speaker 1: has in this offense. It made me wonder when Shepherd
Speaker 1: made the team, if that's the hedge against if something
Speaker 1: were to happen again to Davis, that Matt Lafleur doesn't
Speaker 1: lose that type of player. He's got another guy, a small,
Speaker 1: speedy guy, a return guy, all those things that Davis
Speaker 1: brings show Eppard also brings, and it doesn't go completely
Speaker 1: out the window just because you know something might happen
Speaker 1: to Davis. Yeah, And the other thing you want to
Speaker 1: avoid two is Tremon Williams. As much as you tipped
Speaker 1: your cap to him last year for jumping in on
Speaker 1: punt returns. That wasn't the plan, right, You want to
Speaker 1: have multiple options. I think Shepherd gives him that spot.
Speaker 1: I think they're they may be hedging bets now with
Speaker 1: the roster being set, but I think it was those
Speaker 1: first two weeks when Trevor missed because of the practice
Speaker 1: injury with the Texans that Darius really stepped up and said, hey,
Speaker 1: look at me, guys. I think that's where he made
Speaker 1: his name, so indirectly, directly either way, they're both on
Speaker 1: the roster. Can I ask one questions if we're really
Speaker 1: going off script, Danny vitally sticks as the fullback. You
Speaker 1: got a chance to talk to him a little bit, obviously,
Speaker 1: spend some time with him, you know during training camp
Speaker 1: when you look at the fullback position and how it's
Speaker 1: evolving now in the NFL. To me, and not to
Speaker 1: lead you into the question, but it just seems like
Speaker 1: he's the perfect embodiment of kind of what you're looking
Speaker 1: for from that position in two thousand. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: he missed a couple of preseason games and and and
Speaker 1: I know that limited what we got to see him
Speaker 1: in the preseason, but when you look at the upside
Speaker 1: for what he can do, he really runs routes like
Speaker 1: a tight end. He's a little bit smaller than a
Speaker 1: tight end, but he runs routes very similar to a
Speaker 1: tight end, which is which is great to having this
Speaker 1: offense because there's a lot of fullback wheel routes and
Speaker 1: and and seem routes and stuff down the field twenty
Speaker 1: yard receptions, uh downfield for a fullback, which is not
Speaker 1: something that you see in a lot of offenses. So
Speaker 1: you need to be versatile in that aspect. And with
Speaker 1: kind of being nimble in the same mind, he needs
Speaker 1: to get through the line, he needs to get his
Speaker 1: read to the mic, to the safety, to the sam
Speaker 1: whoever he's blocking on the outside zone plays, and I
Speaker 1: mean he's got the versatility to do all of that well.
Speaker 1: And you got to have three Northwestern guys there is
Speaker 1: that you got Lowry Lancaster now Danny Visce. How could
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Speaker 1: Packers Bears. It's Week one, It's the kickoff of the
Speaker 1: NFL season. There are any number of storylines we could
Speaker 1: talk about here. One of the more intriguing ones to
Speaker 1: me is that as Matt Lafleur is getting ready for
Speaker 1: his first game as an NFL head coach, the guy
Speaker 1: on the other side was doing exactly the same thing
Speaker 1: in almost exactly the same circumstances last year. And Matt Nagy,
Speaker 1: he's getting ready for the Bears for his first game
Speaker 1: as a head coach. It's against the arch rival Packers,
Speaker 1: it's on national television Sunday Night football, is opposed to
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football, but the circumstances are eerily similar. And uh,
Speaker 1: I just I find it interesting that now that Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur is almost exactly in Matt nagy shoes from a
Speaker 1: year ago. It's really quite an interesting situation for the
Speaker 1: Packers to be in right now. And Aaron Rodgers even
Speaker 1: said a thirty to forty percent of the time, you're
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of unscouted looks in a game
Speaker 1: like this, But the part of this matchup that intrigues
Speaker 1: me the most is the fact that you have Mike
Speaker 1: Petton coming back with his defense, and you have Matteggie
Speaker 1: coming back with his offense. But now you've got Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur in his offense and Chuck Pagano picking up where
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio left off with the Bears defense. Everyone knows
Speaker 1: what the Bears are capable of. You look at it,
Speaker 1: it's just a murderer's row of talent that they have,
Speaker 1: particularly in that front seven. So seeing exactly how this
Speaker 1: new fangled offense that the Packers have, and Aaron Rodgers said,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be patient with it. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a work in progress. But seeing how that matches
Speaker 1: up with probably one of the stiffest test it's gonna
Speaker 1: face this entire season, it's gonna be a big heat
Speaker 1: of victory. Yeah. And I'd like to get John's perspective
Speaker 1: here while we have him, because we hear a lot
Speaker 1: from guys like Rogers, from coaches about all the unscouted
Speaker 1: looks early in the season, especially the first three or
Speaker 1: four games. So from your time in the league, just
Speaker 1: how different is September football because of all the newness
Speaker 1: of everything and what guy's hot. You know, they hide
Speaker 1: stuff and don't put it on film in the preseason
Speaker 1: and all that. How different is September football from the
Speaker 1: rest of the regular season is pretty different, and especially
Speaker 1: the first game because the second game you have a
Speaker 1: day of work, you can draw frame. But this first game,
Speaker 1: the Bears are going to be watching our preseason games,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna be pulling up stuff from uh when
Speaker 1: the floor was in l a and when the flour
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta, and they're gonna be saying, this is
Speaker 1: what the Packers are gonna They're gonna be trying to
Speaker 1: hit us with stuff with this, just like we're gonna
Speaker 1: be showing these guys stuff. And when Chuck Pegana was
Speaker 1: in India right how when he was in Baltimore and
Speaker 1: saying this is kind of more what the defense is
Speaker 1: gonna look here from Chicago than what it looked last year.
Speaker 1: But to Chicago's defense, their three or four defenses, there
Speaker 1: three or four defense. These guys playing the same positions,
Speaker 1: they're just playing a little bit different of a play
Speaker 1: calling style. Chicago definitely has they have the edge on
Speaker 1: the learning curve with their new coordinator versus us, but
Speaker 1: nobody knows what this is gonna Look, you haven't seen
Speaker 1: an offense like this with Aaron Rodgers. It's hopefully when
Speaker 1: we open that present on Thursday night, that that Christmas
Speaker 1: present we've been waiting for for weeks. It's a big
Speaker 1: shiny toy and it comes out perfect. So this, this
Speaker 1: challenge against the Bears defense is really some done because
Speaker 1: you look, you look at what that Chicago Bears defense
Speaker 1: did last year. First in the league and takeaways. They
Speaker 1: actually scored six defensive touchdowns last year, which is a
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable number. They were first in the league in
Speaker 1: yards allowed, I believe, first in the league in points allowed,
Speaker 1: first in the league against the run, um and from
Speaker 1: personnel standpoint, you know Khalil Mack, Akeem Hicks, Leonard Floyd,
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith, all those guys in the front seven are
Speaker 1: still there. The biggest change really is the is the
Speaker 1: safety swap between the two teams. Adrian Amos now in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Haha, Clinton dis is uh is in Chicago.
Speaker 1: So how do you see this? Uh, this Bears defense?
Speaker 1: I guess my question to us is just how different
Speaker 1: do you think this Bears defense is gonna be with
Speaker 1: Chuck Begonald versus Vic Fangio when there's been so little
Speaker 1: change in personnel. Yeah, it's really I think going to
Speaker 1: come down to that secondary in the fact that you
Speaker 1: have Busker scrind now too as in there as their
Speaker 1: nickel after one of the changes at that spot as well.
Speaker 1: Adrian Amos had been sort of the the leader, the captain,
Speaker 1: the guy that brings everything together and to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, is talented. As Eddie Jackson was coming out
Speaker 1: of Alabama and coming off the injury that he did.
Speaker 1: I think Amos Not to take any credit away from Jackson,
Speaker 1: I think Amos, I mean, that's great to have a
Speaker 1: veteran like that that's been in the league that started
Speaker 1: every game that he's played, working alongside you in that
Speaker 1: in that capacity. Seeing how Clinton Dix, you know, moves
Speaker 1: into that spot, Davante Adams said, even you know, he's
Speaker 1: one of his best friends. You know, they go back
Speaker 1: a long way. They entered the league at the same time.
Speaker 1: But he has a few new tricks for him as
Speaker 1: well that he wants to show. So you know what
Speaker 1: you're gonna get with Mac. You know, everybody in that front,
Speaker 1: I mean me personally, I look at real Kan Smith.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the most exciting young inside
Speaker 1: linebackers in this game. Danny Raven right next to him,
Speaker 1: So that standpoint, you know what you're gonna get. It's
Speaker 1: that secondary and seeing how Aaron Rodgers reacts to it
Speaker 1: is gonna be the big thing to follow because outside,
Speaker 1: Kyle Furler is as good as they come. Yeah, Kyle
Speaker 1: Fuller certainly a veteran cornerback that Aaron Rodgers and these
Speaker 1: Packers receivers of based numerous times. John, what's your take
Speaker 1: on this whole The switch of the safety's the how
Speaker 1: Clinton Dix is now in Chicago and Adrian Amos is
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. It's going to be a storyline a
Speaker 1: lot of people want to talk about ultimately. Do you
Speaker 1: think it will Do you think that change in personnel
Speaker 1: specifically will have a big impact on this game. I
Speaker 1: believe it will have a big impact down the stretch
Speaker 1: of the season, but in this game specifically, the only
Speaker 1: way it could possibly have an impact is these guys
Speaker 1: have seen these skill players on the other teams, so
Speaker 1: they kind of know how they run routes. They kind
Speaker 1: of have tells or so they think these guys could
Speaker 1: be set up for something by one of these receivers.
Speaker 1: And I know what DeVante is talking about. He ha
Speaker 1: ha has played against them for years. He knows what
Speaker 1: he routes he's gonna run, But does he You know,
Speaker 1: they can come out with a double move or kind
Speaker 1: of one of the bite routes where it looks like
Speaker 1: he's going to the post and come back. So so
Speaker 1: so that that being said, it's only if they really,
Speaker 1: really epically failed would impact this game. I think the
Speaker 1: true test of this game is the run offense for
Speaker 1: our guys versus the number one rush defense from a
Speaker 1: year ago. We now run the outside zone, which is
Speaker 1: perfect for this defense because the chem Hicks is the
Speaker 1: run stuff for this defense. We gotta get him running
Speaker 1: sideways early on. But which way do we run? Do
Speaker 1: we run at Mac? He's so good at stopping a run,
Speaker 1: you might want to make him chase down on the backside,
Speaker 1: but he's that fast too, say he's pretty good at backside.
Speaker 1: That's the hardest part is Max Still. You know you
Speaker 1: want to get a team Knicks moving with or a
Speaker 1: cheam Hicks moving with with the front with the outside zone,
Speaker 1: But which way do you run? Do you run at
Speaker 1: MC or do you run away from him? Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1: And also from the standpoint too, but this game breaks down.
Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't seen Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams yet,
Speaker 1: and that's what I was guys end of playing in
Speaker 1: this preseason. And as Aaron Rodgers said, that isn't going
Speaker 1: to dictate anything. If they come out slow, it's not
Speaker 1: because they didn't play in the preseason. If they come
Speaker 1: out fast, it's not gonna because they didn't play in
Speaker 1: the preseason and we're arrested. But seeing how Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: I mean to me, that was the biggest storyline of
Speaker 1: the off season, other than everyone making a big thing
Speaker 1: out of the Floor and Rogers, is the fact that
Speaker 1: what the flour has done with running backs in the past,
Speaker 1: what that offense has done, how they incorporate them in
Speaker 1: the passing game, how they get them open in space.
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones is perfect for it, and Jamal Williams is
Speaker 1: a natural pass catcher. And will there be a pitch count?
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys have not played in a game yet.
Speaker 1: Now there's gonna be seventy players on offense. What's the
Speaker 1: pitch count gonna be Aaron Jones has never touched the
Speaker 1: ball more than twenty times in the game, yet the
Speaker 1: averages five point five yards of carry. I'd like to
Speaker 1: see him touch the ball on Yeah. Yeah, Well, when
Speaker 1: we look at what's going on with the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers right now, the first full practice in preparation for
Speaker 1: the Bears was on Sunday, and a couple of things
Speaker 1: from an injury standpoint. Jimmy Graham, who has been dealing
Speaker 1: with a finger injury, he missed some time at the
Speaker 1: end of training camp, he was back on the practice field.
Speaker 1: And Kevin King, who has been out essentially since Family
Speaker 1: Night with a hamstring issue, he was also back on
Speaker 1: the practice field. So the Packers working their way back
Speaker 1: here to try to get as close to full strength
Speaker 1: as possible for this opener. Yeah, and they did everything
Speaker 1: they could to get to this spot and being as
Speaker 1: healthy as possible. And it's especially given this time frame
Speaker 1: that they were given. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: many times you opened up on a Thursday night or
Speaker 1: how you know, Mike McCarthy handled it, But when you
Speaker 1: have a seven day timeline like that, you have to
Speaker 1: be cognizant of your guys. I thought Matt Lafleur did
Speaker 1: that for the most part. I mean there's a couple
Speaker 1: role players that were ingrained in that rotation against Kansas City,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, it was about making sure
Speaker 1: that Okay, we're gonna have a healthy fifty throughout their
Speaker 1: healthy forty six out there going into Chicago. And as
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said, there may be a couple of pebbles
Speaker 1: along the road, but as long as you have your
Speaker 1: main guys in your core offense and defense available, you'll
Speaker 1: have the horses to get through. Well, they bubble wrapped
Speaker 1: these starters in the preseason. I just want to get
Speaker 1: him to the games. It's it's it's why. I mean,
Speaker 1: the preseason will will definitely change. But where the Packers
Speaker 1: truly lucked out as they had four Thursday night preseason
Speaker 1: games in a row. This weekly schedule is their new
Speaker 1: weekly schedule. I mean you you basically walk in her
Speaker 1: on Sunday and say, well, this is our Wednesday, and
Speaker 1: everybody knows it. Yeah, yeah, And and that routine is
Speaker 1: something that the Packers are going to have to do
Speaker 1: with it again with a Thursday night game in week four.
Speaker 1: So um so nothing, nothing new. This is this is
Speaker 1: one of the more unusual I think starts to the
Speaker 1: season we've seen, with two Thursday night games in September
Speaker 1: and the Packers obviously opening with back to back division
Speaker 1: opponents here Chicago in Minnesota, and you didn't even talk
Speaker 1: about the biggest storyline of this entire thing, Eddie Pinero
Speaker 1: is the kicker for the Chicago Bears. They're sticking with them.
Speaker 1: They're sticking with them. You had some rough spots. Are
Speaker 1: either of you surprised it's not Sam Ficking. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: it's not Sam Fick. I'm I'm a little I'm a
Speaker 1: little surprised. I William I thought that's who it was
Speaker 1: going to be. And with what's been going on in
Speaker 1: Minnesota with their kicking situation, they they ended up releasing
Speaker 1: the guy that they traded a fifth round draft pick
Speaker 1: to Baltimore for and then didn't they just swap punters
Speaker 1: yesterday and yeah, they picked up coal Quitz. So yeah,
Speaker 1: what's been going on in the division with with with
Speaker 1: these teams and these teams the Packers are playing right
Speaker 1: out of the gate. It's been interesting and I don't
Speaker 1: know how you felt about it. Back in two thousand
Speaker 1: and twelve. But even when Mason was going through is
Speaker 1: tough times and in Georgia to Vecchio came in, I
Speaker 1: still felt, you know, the entire time, if Mason's your guy,
Speaker 1: you feel confident that he's gonna be able to work
Speaker 1: through this, and there were signs of that at the
Speaker 1: end of two thousand twelve going into thirteen. I should say,
Speaker 1: then you then you stick with your guy. The only
Speaker 1: thing I can go off of right now with Chicago
Speaker 1: is that they've been through such a carousel right now
Speaker 1: with their kickers, they're finally like, we trust his guy's talent.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to stick by him, because if you
Speaker 1: just keep that carousel moving, you're never gonna get any balance.
Speaker 1: So to your answer question, I was surprised, but after
Speaker 1: hearing Mattneggie talk about it, I mean, I guess you've
Speaker 1: got to kind of hope that if you show enough
Speaker 1: confidence in a guy who's going to perform. It takes
Speaker 1: a lot of courage to have to swap out a
Speaker 1: kicker moments before the open owner of the season, and
Speaker 1: Eddie Bannero has been there. They said he's been practicing.
Speaker 1: It is at the at a Soldier Field instead of
Speaker 1: at the facility they think they have some That's the
Speaker 1: right call, and if you remember, that's basically the reason
Speaker 1: they got into this problem in the first place is
Speaker 1: cutting bait on Robbie Gouldts too early, and it's difficult
Speaker 1: to find a kicker when you don't. I can only
Speaker 1: imagine the tension that will be in that stadium and
Speaker 1: Soldier Field if there is a big Bears field goal
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and if it just happens to
Speaker 1: be from forty three yards away. That's why you trust
Speaker 1: your kicker, Michael. All Right, Well, with that, we're going
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