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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my partner in crime,

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Speaker 1: West Hodkoits were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at Lambeufield and West. We made it. It is we run.

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Speaker 1: It is Packers Bears kicking off the NFL season on

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football and we have a lot of Packers

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Speaker 1: Bear stuff to get to today and over the next

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Speaker 1: couple of days leading up to Thursday. But we need

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Speaker 1: to review this Packers fifty three man roster first because

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Speaker 1: it was a busy weekend. At sixty five, the roster

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Speaker 1: cuts were made, the waiver period occurred, these guys were

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Speaker 1: signed to the practice squad. The Packers have their fifty

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Speaker 1: three man roster for now West and on it. There

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Speaker 1: only two quarterbacks. There are nine offensive linemen. There seven cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: Where do you want to start with this? I think

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Speaker 1: you want to start with the quarterbacks. Um me speaking

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Speaker 1: for both of us, I guess when I say that.

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Speaker 1: But it's the story that everybody followed throughout training camp

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, and typically it's always the one that

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Speaker 1: is on the tip of everyone's tongue. And in this

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Speaker 1: particular case, it ends up being Tim Boyle that gets

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Speaker 1: the nod here to be the backup to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: They bring back Manny Wilkins on the practice squad to

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Speaker 1: Shaun Kaiser has waived, he ends up with John Gruden

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Speaker 1: now in Oakland. From Boyle's perspective, what a story this

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Speaker 1: has become for this young man. I mean when you

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Speaker 1: we've talked about a nauseum now about the the journey

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Speaker 1: adversity had to overcome at Yukon, and I just thought

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Speaker 1: it spoke volumes about his development. That you can talk

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Speaker 1: about the six touchdowns, you can talk about the you know,

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Speaker 1: the drives, the three consecutive scoring drives against Oakland, but

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Speaker 1: what really stands out to me the most is no interceptions.

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Speaker 1: And that was sort of his bugaboo a little bit

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Speaker 1: when he was coming into the league, was you know,

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Speaker 1: turning over the football. But you know, the people I've

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Speaker 1: talked to about him have said a lot of those

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Speaker 1: things were just circumstantial in college, and I think to

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Speaker 1: his point, he feels like he needs to still grow.

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Speaker 1: There's still a lot of potential in front of him,

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Speaker 1: but to be in this position now, to be the

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Speaker 1: primary backup Daron Rodgers, I think it's something that's well

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Speaker 1: deserved for Boyle. Well, I think the biggest thing you

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Speaker 1: is now compared to where he was as a college player,

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Speaker 1: it's that somehow, some way he's learned to protect the

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Speaker 1: football because he the numbers in college said it all

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Speaker 1: in terms of the times that the ball was being

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Speaker 1: talked about long shot stories and training camp and how

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Speaker 1: this guy makes it, and this guy really, you know,

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Speaker 1: has a shot. You know, maybe maybe not, But if

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Speaker 1: you looked at Tim Boyle's college statistics when he first

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Speaker 1: signed as an undrafted rookie with the Packers and said

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Speaker 1: that guy two years later is going to be Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers back up for the Green May Packers offense, nobody

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Speaker 1: would have believed that. And that's just a credit to

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Speaker 1: Tim Boyle and the progress that he's made, you know it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to use all the cliches about nose

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Speaker 1: a guy who has gone about everything the right way,

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Speaker 1: even down to when there are twenty five reporters crowded

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Speaker 1: answering those questions. So, oh, hello, you guys. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: You guys? Who are you? Guys are on? Yeah? All right? Hey,

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Speaker 1: well should we do this? You want to jump in? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: This is all you don't have anything, but you don't

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Speaker 1: have anything going on. We can do this, all right.

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Speaker 1: You can take this over. You don't even need the chair.

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Speaker 1: You can just jump into my spot. No, let's just

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Speaker 1: kick it. What do you guys got We're talking about

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Speaker 1: Tim Boyle. I don't know if audio wise you're gonna

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Speaker 1: We were talking about Tim Boyle and the fact that

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Speaker 1: I love his story. I mean, he bounced around a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Absolutely John Kon jumping in with us

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Speaker 1: here at Packers unscripted. We're going unscripted here at this point.

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Speaker 1: This is totally unscripted, honest to goodness, folks. But when

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Speaker 1: to talk about Darius Shepard, the undrafted rookie wide receiver

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Speaker 1: from North Dakota State, and you talk about what's on paper,

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Speaker 1: as I just mentioned with Boil, when a guy arrives okay,

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Speaker 1: and here this guy, Darius Shepherd, ends up making the

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. Again, hats off to a guy

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Speaker 1: who did everything the right way to get where he is.

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Speaker 1: So I was racking my brain about this. Do you

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Speaker 1: year after on The last guy who did it in

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Speaker 1: But even his story is a little bit different because

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Speaker 1: But then the Jaguars released him almost immediately because they

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Speaker 1: as a rookie. Darius Shepherd. Nobody signed him after the draft,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Davis really had probably the best camp and it

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Speaker 1: So for what he did in news last two preseason games,

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Speaker 1: but Davante Adams recounted this where the right when the

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, the coaching staff had all of the rookies

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Speaker 1: Darnell Savage. Darnell Savage goes up there, however, many seven

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Speaker 1: figure numbers. Darius Shepherd goes Darius Shepherd, North Dakota State

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Speaker 1: zero dollars, zero dollars dollars. Now, the other thing I

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Speaker 1: saw that Shepherd had made this roster and what you

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Speaker 1: And you got to have three Northwestern guys there is

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Speaker 1: that you got Lowry Lancaster now Danny Visce. How could

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Speaker 1: Packers Bears. It's Week one, It's the kickoff of the

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Speaker 1: NFL season. There are any number of storylines we could

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Speaker 1: me is that as Matt Lafleur is getting ready for

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Speaker 1: in almost exactly the same circumstances last year. And Matt Nagy,

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Speaker 1: So to your answer question, I was surprised, but after

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Speaker 1: Eddie Bannero has been there. They said he's been practicing.

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Speaker 1: It is at the at a Soldier Field instead of

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Speaker 1: imagine the tension that will be in that stadium and

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Speaker 1: your kicker, Michael. All Right, Well, with that, we're going

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