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Speaker 1: What's up, people, it's your boy, Cam Jay back with

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Speaker 1: another episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now

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Speaker 1: as we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to reflect on some of the incredible guests I had

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Speaker 1: the pleasure of sitting down with last season. But hey,

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Speaker 1: don't worry, though, I got you new episodes coming your

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Speaker 1: way real soon. Relax, I got you. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: in between time, let's rewind and play back some of

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Speaker 1: my favorite interviews from season one. For the grand finale

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Speaker 1: of our best season one interviews, I got something special

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Speaker 1: lined up for you, and not just because he's lined

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Speaker 1: up against opposing quarterbacks. We're spotlighting a young star on

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Speaker 1: the rise. But don't let his age fool you. This

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Speaker 1: guy's wise beyond his years. I'm talking about none other

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Speaker 1: than Giants defensive end Kavon Thibodeau. So I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: for tapping in a young bull, young gun, a young

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Speaker 1: killer off the Edge, Cavon Thibodeaux from from Oregon. You know,

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Speaker 1: fifth pick overall and twenty twenty two second year ran boy.

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Speaker 2: Went for for more than ten sacks, bro.

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Speaker 1: I just appreciate you tapping in with me. I mean

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Speaker 1: beyond sacks. You know, you still pushed in another fifty tackles.

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Speaker 1: You know what to work. We played all this year

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Speaker 1: and you know you were a menace. You were a

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Speaker 1: minis on the line and I love them.

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Speaker 3: I love to see the best of us, the best

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Speaker 3: of us this time.

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Speaker 2: Bro, you had a kid named Tommy Cutlet spinning that thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one for the young bulls. You know, he

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Speaker 3: almost got it done.

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Speaker 1: We gotta keep going, absolutely when you have a forty

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Speaker 1: million dollars quarterback that you hope to you know, be playing. Look,

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Speaker 1: I've been in that position where I've seen our starter

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Speaker 1: go and.

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Speaker 2: You could win, you could win some. But so I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna get away it.

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Speaker 3: Get tough, Yeah, get to deep end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you go from a Desert Eagle to a

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Speaker 1: smith and West and you're like, all right, we can

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Speaker 1: get the job done. So the second year, man, what

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Speaker 1: changed for you this year? You talk about for the

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Speaker 1: first year you got actially made. The second year you

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Speaker 1: turned it up.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Just the comfortability, you know you talk about being second

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Speaker 4: year in the system, second year, you know, going against

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Speaker 4: the best guys in the league, or the best guys

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Speaker 3: You get a little more time to rest, you get

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Speaker 3: more time off.

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Speaker 4: You know, obviously coming off college, you got the draft

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Speaker 4: and all that to prepare for, so you never actually

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Speaker 4: get your body time to rest and time to you know,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: So now I.

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Speaker 3: Had a full off season last year. I was able

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Speaker 4: I was able to really focus on the game and

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Speaker 4: how to get better and what I need to get

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Speaker 4: better at. And then you know, I was able to

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Speaker 4: and then playing alongside guys obviously Dexter Lawrence learning how

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Speaker 4: to rush the passer with you know, other guys Leonard Williams,

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Speaker 3: And then Disse on the.

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Speaker 4: Other side, and every other man that's kind of stepped

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Speaker 4: that's was a testament to you know, the players we're

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Speaker 2: PC answer, Yeah, yeah, give Flowers to everybody. I can't.

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Speaker 2: I got to go to big your big grol step.

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Speaker 1: You clearly hooped in high school, Big big, big yearl step.

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Speaker 1: I see what you did there, big lag big Lane.

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Speaker 1: From the film that I've watched. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: your first year, you show, you show some glimpses. This

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Speaker 2: Know how to say that without having to say pause.

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Speaker 2: You learn how to use your length more like it's

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Speaker 1: Know, but as a deepens of m bro you learn

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Speaker 1: how to extend your arms out, lockout and as well

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Speaker 1: as uh, you know, your long arm and power sort

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Speaker 3: So for me, you know, I used to use long

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Speaker 4: But you start to play against guys that aren't you

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Speaker 4: You got Trent William, you got you know, Peney Sewel,

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna let a guy's two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: five pounds long army, you know. And for me as

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Speaker 4: a rookie, I you know, you have that kind of

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Speaker 4: So me kind of coming into the second year, I

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Speaker 4: you know, put them on display, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a favorit pass social move now?

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Speaker 3: I mean I would say long arm.

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Speaker 4: You know that's always when you got when you are

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 4: You know, you see a lot of guys kind of

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Speaker 3: When you have a little more.

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Speaker 4: Weight behind you, you can't you know, you can use

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Speaker 4: your moves, you can throw them around. But me now

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Speaker 4: see how there's so many moves and it's really just

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Speaker 4: the angles. Your angles are a lot better off the

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Speaker 4: was like I got pressures and I got you know, hits.

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Speaker 4: But I had to kind of shorten that angle because

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Speaker 3: They get paid money, they do for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, I like to switch it up into in my mind,

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Speaker 2: A wide nine ish.

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Speaker 1: And you you still angle them down. So now instead

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Speaker 4: You never yeah, you never realized how much geometry was

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Speaker 3: Ale, Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Hit a girl look girlfriend out there like so so

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Speaker 1: so bring that over here, you know, like, oh you

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Speaker 1: know how you know how to show in a stell?

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Speaker 2: Okay, come bringing it over here. Or a wife in

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Speaker 2: my case because you know I'm married with four kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good life, man, that's a good life.

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Speaker 3: But now I'm not there. Yeah, but I'm a crossover soon. No, No,

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Speaker 3: I mean a relative as soon as relative.

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Speaker 1: When that mustache and beard drop and connect, think about

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Speaker 1: when the connect, We'll talk about it.

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Speaker 2: No, don't do that, don't do that. Don't enjoy enjoy,

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Speaker 2: enjoy you know year two, enjoy your three, four or

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Speaker 4: Look, I think I got to your I was like

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Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna catch flat from wife you regardless, So

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Speaker 1: you know where exactly do you want to go with it?

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Speaker 1: But I'm sure you watched the games this weekend, Bro,

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Speaker 1: what what did you take away from the Conference championship games?

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Speaker 2: Because basically we all want to be there?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, obviously, Like dude, just first, I could you know,

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Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of a lot of people

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Speaker 4: the Lamar Patrick Mahone's game.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people are rooting for Lamar.

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Speaker 4: Because of the flat that he gets right, for his

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Speaker 4: and us knowing how to grind, like for example, you

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Speaker 4: do a swim move.

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Speaker 3: Your swim move is better than any swim move I've

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Speaker 4: But I could promise that there are coaches or people

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Speaker 4: you know like that work. You've heard that, and you've

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Speaker 4: to get to that point. But yeah, man, you talk

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Speaker 4: Jackson and what he can do and what he brings

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Speaker 4: I think as far as athleticism and.

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Speaker 2: Ability, athleticism crazy.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I feel like we're all rooted for him,

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Speaker 4: you know, watching the game. Obviously the Baltimore has a

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Speaker 4: great defense, but I think, you know, Patrick Mahons, they's

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Speaker 4: just been there too many times. I hate to say,

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Speaker 4: you've just been there too many times. You've done it

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Speaker 4: too many times.

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Speaker 2: King of the Hill. You got to prove them. You

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Speaker 2: got to prove them they wrong.

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Speaker 1: Because it's yeah, for super bowls now in five or

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Speaker 1: six years, even without this one, three super bowls in

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Speaker 4: Six years, got Chris Jones in the middle, Chris George

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Speaker 4: car is just living. Shout out to carloftas he's a boy.

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Speaker 4: You know, we were in the same Dravet class.

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Speaker 2: He's right right a minute, a man crazy.

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Speaker 3: And then the young guys in the back end, you know,

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Speaker 3: the dvs.

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Speaker 4: You gotta step up, you gotta make players, you gotta

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Speaker 4: stop it, and they making plays man. And I would say,

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Speaker 4: I would say on that, you know, when you just

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Speaker 4: talk about the game, it's tough when you know you

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Speaker 4: are fighting.

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Speaker 3: That uphill battle, you know, and they fought.

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Speaker 4: They obviously fall to the end, but you know it's

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Speaker 4: it's tough, man, So they're gonna get it, right.

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Speaker 3: I still I still see them being a good team.

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Speaker 1: If you give him back three plays as a Flowers

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Speaker 3: And left I left the house right when he when

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Speaker 3: he caught it, and he and he did the he

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Speaker 3: they're gonna score and I come back and I realized

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Speaker 3: It happens to the best of us. That's one of

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Speaker 4: See it the way it was game, Yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: It was a blessing like you like, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So there's there's flashes like as a rookie, you'd be like,

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Speaker 3: It's definitely, it's definitely you know, building grounds.

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Speaker 4: And I would say it's just tough, you know, when

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Speaker 4: You know, he's never been at a stage bigger than this,

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Speaker 3: And it's like stuff just man.

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Speaker 4: You know, sometimes the football guys, you know, sometimes the

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Speaker 2: It goes and no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's crazy you gonna bring up the football guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, Hey, them old coaches. You should swear, man,

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Speaker 3: I believe.

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Speaker 1: I believe in a football outlying source, brother Christian.

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Speaker 2: They can only be one guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, not the word we should use it

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Speaker 1: I came home one time, was like, man, the football gods,

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Speaker 1: and my mom looked at me. I was like, yes, ma'am, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not of clear, you're right, it ain't that football outliers energy.

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Speaker 1: to you know, you checked out that game which pat

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Speaker 2: People like people like did you see his dad smoke

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Speaker 1: Did you see his dad and my dad his wife

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Speaker 4: You can come on, I'm tiktoking, I'm dancing. I'm super

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Speaker 4: the I went to the I went to the Bills,

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Speaker 3: He's Jason.

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Speaker 2: Is that the way is that with Jason Kelsey like

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Speaker 3: Other side strow Exactly. Yeah, it was definitely a time.

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Speaker 3: But when you when you're winning, it's nothing people can

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Speaker 1: I don't like him because because I'm a winner that

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Speaker 4: And thinking about look, I just I just seen a

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Speaker 4: tweet that's like, yo, Patrick Mahons is going to be

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Speaker 4: the Michael Jordan of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Like, watch how many quarterbacks? How many great quarterbacks don't

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Speaker 3: that that's true. It's a bunch of Charles Barkley's and

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Speaker 3: out there with Michael Jordan's Yeah, your thirteen without a ring.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, I got a question for you. So

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Speaker 4: that was the thing that I saw in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: I think it was a gil rid Arenas and they

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Speaker 4: were talking about would you would you rather get, you know,

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Speaker 4: a fifty million dollar contract and a ring or one

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Speaker 4: hundred million dollar contract and no ring.

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Speaker 2: I'd have to answer it. I don't answer your question.

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Speaker 3: Don't answer it because of what the media is gonna say.

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Speaker 3: Don't aspen.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've got no fear of media.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm only going to ask this, does it matter where?

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Speaker 1: Because it's gonna matter where for me because there's places

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Speaker 2: Could not offer me enough money to get there too cold.

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Speaker 1: Like bro, my my only my only prayer before I

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Speaker 1: They could be like, oh, can, We're gonna make you

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Speaker 1: the highest paid defensive end at thirty five million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year, and I'd like, politely thank you for your offer.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take something else. Yeah, okay, I'm not Bro.

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Speaker 1: I'm never going to play somewhere cold, because after you see,

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Speaker 1: we're fighting over fifty MILLI dollars one hundred million dollar.

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Speaker 2: That's still more money than I've ever wanted in my life.

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Speaker 1: I came in this game, I was like, Hey, I

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: What I was like, Yo, I was like, I was like,

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Speaker 1: if I leave with ten I never have to work again, Mom,

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Speaker 1: never have to work again.

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Speaker 2: We're good man.

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Speaker 1: I passed that up like by year four or five,

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Speaker 1: you know. So Like so if you say fifty million

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Speaker 1: But it's going to depend on the where. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: Get that.

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Speaker 2: If you say, yo, Kim, you can.

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Speaker 1: Stay in New Orleans for the fifty or you have

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Speaker 1: to go to New England for a hundred, I'll be.

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Speaker 2: Right here in New Orleans jailing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now if you say boys.

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Speaker 1: Right, if you say if you say fifty Kim at

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Speaker 1: Cleveland or a hunt of a buffalo, I'm retired.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit you with a drunk line.

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Speaker 3: So look, let's say you saw the future. Let's say

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Speaker 3: you saw the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all got to be New Orleans only.

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Speaker 3: Four years ago. Four years ago. Yeah, four years ago.

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Speaker 3: They're like, look, we got two million to come to

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Speaker 3: future is gonna be. I'm talking about today nothing, but

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Speaker 3: you knew they win the Super they're gonna win the

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Speaker 3: next you know, high ready Super Bowls?

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Speaker 2: What you're doing, I'm staying right here in New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: Can That's what I like.

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Speaker 4: That's a great asswer don't do it.

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Speaker 2: But see you already playing the cold half of it,

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Speaker 2: because I'm not playing in the cold. I've seen that, bro,

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Speaker 2: I ain't playing.

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Speaker 1: You played my first played my first cold game bro

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Speaker 1: at Year twelve in Cleveland. Negative thirty and negative twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It was some dumb stuff. It was like it was

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Speaker 1: it affirmed everything I've ever believed in. I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't play gold. I played this game. I hated everybody.

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Speaker 1: I hated myself, like I'm not a good person in

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, screw you, screw you.

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Speaker 4: I was like, no better when you're losing in this cold,

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Speaker 4: no better, boy, man, I was saying the pain. So

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Speaker 4: so then you talk about the next game, you talk

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Speaker 4: just play?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: Lions, Niners, And it's like you just see like and

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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, right.

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Speaker 2: SI, Probably it was. It was in San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: It was it was in San Francisco. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know, that's San Francisco, you know what

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Speaker 4: Whatever, it ain't that bad. So but you're talking about

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Speaker 4: like that turmoil of continuously playing. Like man, I felt

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Speaker 4: you know you work so hard. It's like you come

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Speaker 4: up dish short. The check ain't even worth it, check

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Speaker 4: and you can keep my check.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: was enjoying my pizza. I was like, I was like,

442
00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,920
Speaker 1: all right, so this game over. I was like playing

443
00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,359
Speaker 1: with my kids doing some other stuff. No, in fact,

444
00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,840
Speaker 1: I think yeah. I was back by then, bro, Like

445
00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,360
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool, come back. I look

446
00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,560
Speaker 1: at look up, it's the fourth quarter and it's tied up.

447
00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,480
Speaker 4: I said, what yeah, it's some ducks on that and

448
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,080
Speaker 4: some ducks on that Niner team. We got some we

449
00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,280
Speaker 4: got some ducks on the you know, shout out to Pinasu, Man,

450
00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,080
Speaker 4: I mean, great player, great officer player. But you know,

451
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,720
Speaker 4: the forty nine has got some of our guys too,

452
00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,680
Speaker 4: so I'm happy for him.

453
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,040
Speaker 1: Scow ducks and look at the last of the pack. Man,

454
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,399
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even I don't even know

455
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 1: how to feel about that. Bro. In fact, beyond the pack,

456
00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,399
Speaker 1: like I was, I think when I left, like that

457
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,760
Speaker 1: was the last year of packed ten.

458
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Speaker 2: Think about that. So then it went pack twelve some

459
00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 2: I never claimed Colorado or Utah.

460
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Speaker 3: I was like, I mean we beat Utah, but you tah,

461
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,200
Speaker 3: they did beat that last time.

462
00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,199
Speaker 1: I mean calent horrible after I left, so like Cali right,

463
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,720
Speaker 1: real bad. And we used to we were scraping. You know,

464
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,399
Speaker 1: y'all used to have some We used to have some

465
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Speaker 1: battles out out out.

466
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Speaker 3: In the Eugene and Eugene.

467
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we used to have some battles.

468
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,159
Speaker 1: Deshaun Jackson going crazy my freshman year gets y'all in

469
00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,159
Speaker 1: Auton back when it was like really rocking.

470
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Speaker 3: I mean it was right, it's still rocking, you know.

471
00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,720
Speaker 3: I know, Colch it's not much, but.

472
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 2: It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not

473
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,119
Speaker 2: the same. I'm trying to.

474
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 4: Throw when I came back. Listen, when I came back,

475
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,200
Speaker 4: I got I got ejected from a game.

476
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about for y'all. I'm talking for cal.

477
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 3: It's not Yeah, we used to pack seventy thousand.

478
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,800
Speaker 2: It's like sixty eight thousand out like people.

479
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 1: On the hills out there, roll you bro, you couldn't

480
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,119
Speaker 1: buy them tickets.

481
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 4: Buzz refused to sell them to you. And I think

482
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 4: I see people. I think more people, more people. Like

483
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,159
Speaker 4: there's a little there's a little hill right right outside

484
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 4: the stadium. I think more people sit up there on

485
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 4: that hill than.

486
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,440
Speaker 2: In the stadium, no doubt.

487
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

488
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 2: Oh it's bad, Like Cala.

489
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,399
Speaker 3: I didn't know that was that many bootleggers.

490
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 4: And it's crazy with their boot legging.

491
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,360
Speaker 1: And that's crazy, like things have changed. But I mean,

492
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, Oregon hasn't organ so stayed the same. They

493
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 1: got all that Nike money. It was like Uncle Phil Man,

494
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 1: which leads me to n I L. Though, Like what

495
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,479
Speaker 1: what's that even hitting on? Like listen, you you one

496
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: of the first to really capture n I L and

497
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,199
Speaker 1: make make you know everybody in the world jealous, you

498
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you had n I L.

499
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 2: Like what did that even feel?

500
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 3: Like?

501
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 2: Knowing like you was.

502
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 4: Like you wasn't phenomenally like the sickest. It was like

503
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 4: the sickest. It was the sickest thing that could have happened,

504
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 4: and sick meaning great just because you know, if you

505
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 4: were equipped with the infrastructure as far as like knowledge

506
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 4: and people around you, I mean, it was dope.

507
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 3: So me. You know, I was able to make money

508
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 3: during the time.

509
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Speaker 4: But you talk about the money they're making now compared

510
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 4: to when I was making money, it's not even close,

511
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 4: not even we've.

512
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: Been saying, but you're always gonna say about the next gen,

513
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: like that's.

514
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 4: Just you know, it's inflation. It is what it is,

515
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 4: and it's like and that's what I think. Like even

516
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 4: the guys that didn't, you know, in the league that.

517
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 3: Didn't, it's like, yeah, I'm sorry for them, man, they

518
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 3: had like they had to walk so we could run.

519
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 1: Looking at it and looking at cow guys like yeah, man,

520
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, like man, like compared to all the other schools,

521
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm not making anything, like hey, I got this deal

522
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 1: and I got like ten grand, ten grand, Hey boy,

523
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Speaker 1: you know what I was done with ten a test

524
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Speaker 1: spot and kind.

525
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: Of come on, come on.

526
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 4: But see, you know, the real the real problem is

527
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 4: that there's no there's no education infrastructure. So now you're

528
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 4: giving a bunch of a bunch of young guys who.

529
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 3: Don't have any liabilities.

530
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 4: So if I don't have any liabilities, I don't have

531
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,199
Speaker 4: to worry about what I use my assets on as

532
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 4: far as my money, you know, So It's like when

533
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 4: you talk about you're giving guys ten thousand, twenty thousand,

534
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 4: and thirty thousand. I had two cars in college. Why

535
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 4: did I have two cars in college? Because I could?

536
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: One was free and I paid for one. Why would

537
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 4: I pay for one when I got one free? But

538
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 4: it's just like having knowledge, having understanding of what's important.

539
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 4: And it's like, that's what I think is what's missing.

540
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 4: You know that in that whole level or education, you know,

541
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 4: giving guys understanding that, like you just hit for half

542
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 4: a million, you got to pay taxes on that big dog?

543
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: Who how to pay taxes on that big dog?

544
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 3: And they we don't get we don't know that, we

545
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: don't know. I've never paid tax I've never had a job.

546
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: Right.

547
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 4: So it's like, you know when you talk about the

548
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,719
Speaker 4: it's a it's a blessing, that a curse. And now

549
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 4: we just now that we have all of this, we

550
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 4: got to go. You know, we got to be proactive

551
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 4: about the information.

552
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: No doubt, I would say, how how is that navigating

553
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: that space? Do just like does college help out or

554
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: is it just like the wild wild West? You got

555
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: to figure out so for how to pay tax again?

556
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 4: Finance organ specifically we had they created and this was

557
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 4: a year I left. They created something called Division Street,

558
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 4: which is basically what we just talked about.

559
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 3: It's an infrastructure for student athletes.

560
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 4: To learn about an io, to learn about business and

561
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Speaker 4: basically give them resources on you know, the things they need.

562
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: Let me manage course exactly. But do your parents give

563
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: you a check book? Here's a checkbook? Do all schools

564
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 3: do that? No? Is it something that's regulated by the

565
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: n C double A?

566
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: No?

567
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely will it?

568
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 3: Will it be regulated by the nc double A when

569
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 3: they can put taxes on it, they can make the peace. Yeah,

570
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: when they can get their tech.

571
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: But Nuba, you find a way to get they cut

572
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: of course.

573
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Speaker 3: Man.

574
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Speaker 4: They tried to tell us my first year that, like

575
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Speaker 4: any deal, you get registered in this database. And I

576
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 4: raised my hand and I said, so, what's gonna happen

577
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 4: if we don't. The lady said, they're still kind of

578
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 4: figuring out what the repercussions are. I said, so, I'm

579
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 4: not gonna tell you what I'm making. Are you stupid?

580
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 4: I was like, what it makes sense? You want to

581
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: tell you how much money I'm bringing in? So you

582
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 4: got come on.

583
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: There's a reason why you want this list, baby, and

584
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 1: I can't help you. Ain't no way how I don't

585
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: know how much I can't.

586
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to read a contract.

587
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 4: And then look and then when you talk about, you know,

588
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 4: the resources, Now, for me, I was the you know,

589
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 4: a high draft pick. So there was already agents, we know,

590
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 4: an agent game. Everybody's reaching out and for me, I'm

591
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 4: getting I'm getting knowledge. I'm not going to steer away

592
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 4: these relationships.

593
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna learn. I'm gonna get everything I can.

594
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 4: So when when the time came, I kind of already

595
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 4: had a plan on what I was gonna do. You know,

596
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 4: I was already a big fan of Lebron, big fan

597
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 4: of you know, the movement of n I L. And

598
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 4: when it happened, it was like I was. I was

599
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 4: ready for it. Luckily, the first deal I did was

600
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 4: with Phil Knight, and it was like an n F

601
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Speaker 4: T at the time. So it was a space that

602
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 4: he didn't know and I didn't know.

603
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: But we got.

604
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: People exactly, we got people who were uh, he had

605
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: people that kind of showed me the way, and that

606
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 4: was kind of that first step.

607
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: And then from there it was just like plug and play.

608
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: Right when your first in nail deal coming from a

609
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: man who mastered the business plan, and what you're gonna

610
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: take you you gonna take five hundred grand or have

611
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: a sitting down with Jay Z.

612
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit down with Phil Knight.

613
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna sit down. I'm still getting that. I

614
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 4: ain't gonna get five hundred but I'm gonna still make

615
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 4: something off of.

616
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: Man. We love we love that, all right. So what

617
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: was that transition, like, like from from college to the NFL.

618
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: Because pre in I L boys got to league and

619
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: had to figure out how to have the you know,

620
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: the produciary responsibility of the finances to set aside and

621
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: figure out your life or you sort of figure out

622
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: in college, So that sort.

623
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 2: Of was it was.

624
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: It was it, you know, just neither here nor there

625
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: for you when you got to league. So did that

626
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: make it easier for you the transition or because it's

627
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: just like money?

628
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 3: It was definitely, it was definitely easier.

629
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Speaker 4: I say the bad part of the only it wasn't

630
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: really bad, But I say the only hard part was

631
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: that my taste got really expensive faster than I would

632
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 4: have hoped.

633
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: So it wasn't that I was a guy who's you know.

634
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: With you.

635
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 4: Know, so it's not like I'm a goot to go

636
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 4: blow my money, but it's like, yo, I might as

637
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: well just eat the highest quality food, at the highest

638
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 4: quality restaurants, at the highest quality you know, Like it's

639
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 4: just you realize, like, man, I can, so why wouldn't I?

640
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 4: You know, And in that part you have to understand

641
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 4: the time management. You know, people don't really realize like, yeah,

642
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 4: you get paid fifty million, forty million, thirty million, but

643
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 4: you still got thirty years left to live.

644
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: So it's like it's easy to go spend one thousand

645
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: dollars a day fifteen two hundred, two thousand, one hundred

646
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: and ten thousand dollars every two weeks. But then it's like,

647
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: you know, that's gonna run out.

648
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: Or it's good while I'm playing, but what happens beyond

649
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: after I'm playing?

650
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm over there.

651
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: So that was that was my idea.

652
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 4: That's been that's been my whole thing, where it's like,

653
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 4: don't keep all my eggs in one basket, continue to

654
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 4: you know, be open to longevity.

655
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: Basically, no, man hey, look look I put it like

656
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: this my my rookie year, I probably didn't spend that thing.

657
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: I paid for my car cash and was like.

658
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: This is my money and I need it now, Like

659
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how much long I'm gonna play. But

660
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: after that, my second year, I was like, oh, I

661
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: got to diversify the portfolio. I need I need a

662
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: rental property, I need this, I need this, I need this.

663
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: Bro.

664
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: After my fifty year, I was like, bro, I just

665
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: want to focus on football.

666
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: And then I was like I like somewhere around like

667
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: that fifty or six year, I was like, all right,

668
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: some moves I've made, Like you know, the first off season,

669
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: I go to Vegas and you have a Vegas weekend

670
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: the professional way, you know what I'm saying.

671
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: Like living, living, living or lavishly.

672
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: After your first one, you start thinking like, yeah, I

673
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 4: don't know how many more times I can.

674
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: Go to Vegas.

675
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: I'm not doing again. Hey look, I was thinking about

676
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: the super Bowl being in Vegas. I'm like, yeah, I

677
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: got one day. They getting six hours out of me.

678
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm make sure my mama come with me.

679
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: Bro.

680
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: Literally, I be like this.

681
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: I'm like I'd be running things off, you know, off

682
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: the fam. I'm like, hey, like hey, bro, how much

683
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: you make a year and he was like, hey, would

684
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: you do this? And he was like, hey, that's crazy.

685
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: If I hear like a hype response from him. Yeah,

686
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: like I use.

687
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: Other people to ground me.

688
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, hey, mom, like, oh yeah, I

689
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: was thinking about you know, like my secondar in the league.

690
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm thinking about this Audi R eight.

691
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't even know what. I was like,

692
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: Mama's one hundred eighty one hundred. I said, cool, okay,

693
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: bring me back to life. Bring me back to life.

694
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, like you gotta have some some some sort

695
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: of browning situation. Yeah, because you can get into a

696
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: locker room and you know, keeping up with the Joneses,

697
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: keeping up with the Joneses. When you know your boy

698
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: rolled in with the with the whatever that keys by

699
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: what big big coming in. You're like, I had the

700
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: same tie for eleven years and every year I'll be like, bro,

701
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: like I'm two models behind.

702
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: I should I should go ahead? And that at some

703
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: point where you're like why, I.

704
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: Rolle like what what iPhone do you have? Right now?

705
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: I have no clue what iPhone I have?

706
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: Fourteen fourteen, but it's got a crack in it, so

707
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: the fifteen is probably happening.

708
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna happen.

709
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 4: But like once you get it, it's just like we

710
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 4: we upgrade because we can. But then it's like, you know,

711
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: you get to a point where it's like, man, oh

712
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: this is the same thing.

713
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: Until until the phone starts slowing down on me. I'm

714
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: used to rocket for my rule is like every two

715
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: or three years, so like yeah, two or three yeah,

716
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: but I got a crack in it, so like it's

717
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: gonna have to.

718
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 4: It's sad because look, if you ask Cam ten years ago,

719
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: his phone had a crack in and he was taking

720
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 4: it down to the place on the corner getting it

721
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: fixed by one.

722
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: Of the one of the places for sixty bucks.

723
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: Now he just get a whole phone up.

724
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: Ain't you done?

725
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: Changed up?

726
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: Can changed up?

727
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: You?

728
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: Boo?

729
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: Hey boom, there's some there's some things in life you

730
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: don't fight. Come on, I feel like I feel like

731
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: that one. Hey, traveling. Traveling is that one thing for me.

732
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: Like I may be tight, I mean be a tight wad,

733
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: and a lot of places in my life we travel.

734
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm here to sleep, the best, eat, the best marshal,

735
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: the best commercial I've ever seen was why save during

736
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: your travel when you can save on your travel.

737
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I would ever want to be

738
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: that guy that have to save during the travel.

739
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: It was a great commercial. I was a great commercial.

740
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: Was there is there any place that you've traveled so

741
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: far that.

742
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 4: You like, dang man, I've done kind of my first year,

743
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: I did like a world tour. So I did uh

744
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: Dominican Republic first I did, and then I went to

745
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: where I go, Jamaica. Then I went to Africa. I

746
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: went to South Africa. Then I went to Hawaii, then

747
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: I went to Uhos.

748
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: I went to Botswana. It's the city I went to.

749
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: I flew into Johannesburg and then like we drove about

750
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: five hours to a small country probably only hold like

751
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 4: I think a million people.

752
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: It was called Botswana.

753
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: Though, and we drove through they say the caves or

754
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: the mountains where the first remains of humans were found,

755
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: so literally like civilization. Yeah, the first people walked the earth.

756
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: We kind of drove past. So that was pretty dope.

757
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: Uh. And then this year I'm going to Spain, going

758
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: to trying to put something together.

759
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: Nigeria.

760
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: I just did my DNA test found out I was Nigerian.

761
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna try to go out there and uh

762
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: and go get some knowledge and some you know history Spain. Yes, San,

763
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: go to Barcelona. Yeah, I'm going to Barcelona. Then go

764
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: down to Uh.

765
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm gonna go to I'm flying to Paris, go

766
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: to Barcelona, stay in Paris for a couple of days,

767
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 4: go to Barcelona and then uh. There's another place called

768
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: something would end, but it's an island, Mosique Modico.

769
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: There's a few of them. I'm gonna just simply say

770
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: add in San.

771
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: Sebastian, San Sebastian, it's.

772
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: Right there by if you find in the France first right,

773
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: it's right there. It's a connection area of France and

774
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: Spain on the what the Poconos, Poconese whatever mountains.

775
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: My geography is the worst. It's it's Basque country.

776
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: But it's one of the most beautiful spots that I

777
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: think I've seen it eight Like think think of a

778
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: fire city that meets like beach and whatever it is,

779
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: it is beautiful. Seastian, Bill Bao, San Sebastian. You gotta

780
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: go to a soccer game.

781
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: It's this.

782
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta go check you gotta check it out. Anyways,

783
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: it's funny just to hear you talking. Like I've seen

784
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: you talk before, you know, pre draft whatever that was

785
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: going through. But it's like you talk well beyond your years, bro,

786
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: and even this year, it seems like you've become so

787
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: sort of like a vocal leader even as a young kid.

788
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Then I say kid, because you know, second year you

789
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: got to ten years, you.

790
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: Got thirteen two.

791
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Hey, bro, that's that sort of happened for me.

792
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: Bro, Like my second third year of the league, all

793
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: the old heads got sort of pushed out, went to

794
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: another team, got paid whatever it was. I looked around

795
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, from a rookie to event, like

796
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: was my life? You know what I'm saying, Like, eh

797
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: like that. So you know you talk about you just

798
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: being like a vocal leader early on this stage? Is it?

799
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: You know?

800
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: The is it the factors that contribute to that is

801
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: like your willingness to be that, to step into it,

802
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: because I mean you you still had up until halfway

803
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: through the season, you had Little Williams. Yeah, you got

804
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: Sexy Dexi over there. You know, you got some old heads.

805
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: But it seems like the more you talk, the more

806
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: you amped up. Came that spark for your defense.

807
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: So you know, I.

808
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: Would say, first, you know, when it talks about leadership

809
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: is position first based off of quarterback, running back, middle, linebacker, safety,

810
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: guys who you know kind of are the focal points

811
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 4: of the defense or of the offense. So that's kind

812
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: of the initial leadership role. And then Dexter Lawrence obviously

813
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 4: who's the biggest guy you know in the room, right.

814
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: It makes no you know when a guy.

815
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: But then it comes to play right, And I think

816
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: that's the big component that you learn once you start

817
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: to you get into the league that it's all about

818
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: how much you contribute on the field and if you're

819
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 4: able to contribute on the field. So even my first year,

820
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: like you know, you want to lead guys, but if

821
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: you ain't making plays anybody listening, that's the truth behind it.

822
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: So then once you know, the second year comes and

823
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 4: now it's like, okay, I'm more of an instrument in

824
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: the defense. You know, a couple guys leave, a couple

825
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: guys get traded, and now it's like there are voids

826
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 4: that have to be filled.

827
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: In a team chemistry standpoint.

828
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: You know, that's when you have to make that decision

829
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: where you know are you going to be that guy.

830
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: To step in?

831
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: You know, And it's tough because people think leadership is

832
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: something that you can choose. You know, it's not really

833
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: something you choose. It's something that your teammates kind of

834
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: kind of revere you as you know. So for me,

835
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 4: I would say that it was just learning how to

836
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: be a leader. You know, you think you know how

837
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 4: to lead until it's time to lead, right, and you

838
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: think you have everything figured out or you think you

839
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 4: know what you're doing until you get in adverse situations.

840
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 4: So for me man first year, you know, I think

841
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 4: it was just understanding the landscape, understanding where I fit in,

842
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: understand it, you know people. And then second year it

843
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: was okay, how can I help my teammates be their

844
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: best selves?

845
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: Right?

846
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: So you know, before every game, I'm asking Bobby, you know,

847
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: my at the linebacker, I'm like, what do you need

848
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 4: for me.

849
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: For you to play your best? What?

850
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: What parts do you think I can support your vision,

851
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: you know, as a leader of the team and be

852
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: a support on the.

853
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: Same bobbys last night because I've never tried but there yeah, okay, okay, yeah, okay, okay.

854
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: Exactly that was a good and I never heard. Okay, Okay,

855
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: that's a good I like that.

856
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: I like that.

857
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to take that back to it. Yeah, Oka.

858
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: But he's he's definitely a true leader.

859
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: And I think you know, when it comes to leadership,

860
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 4: you have to kind of emulate certain people. So I'm

861
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: very blessed to have a true leader, natural leader that

862
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 4: I can you know, emulate as far as off the field,

863
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 4: as far as taking care of your body, as far

864
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 4: as watching film and things like that to you know,

865
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: continue to be a vessel for other teammates, younger teammates

866
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: coming in and things like that.

867
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: In fact, man, like I said, I love I love

868
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: to see the growth.

869
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: Bro.

870
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm looking forward to your your what are you.

871
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: Looking forward to it?

872
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: And your three?

873
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 3: Man? Honestly, I'm just I'm chasing these sacks.

874
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: Man.

875
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 4: You know, you know how that you know how that moment,

876
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 4: but you know how that feel to be to be

877
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: in the hunt. You know, it's it's it's a great

878
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: feeling because it's all is a new challenge. But that's

879
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: where I'm at. You know, obviously it's going in my

880
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 4: third year. Third years year for renegotiations. If you're one

881
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: of those guys, right if you're one of the ones.

882
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 4: So for me, you know, Michael Strahan said one great

883
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: thing to me. Seriously, he said one great to me.

884
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 4: Think to me when I got in the lead, he said,

885
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: you know, it's easy to be one of the eleven

886
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 4: guys on the field, but you want to be the

887
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 4: one out of the eleven.

888
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: And that's that that's that difference. So that's kind of

889
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: what I'm working on this year.

890
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: Shout out Mike, Come on, Mike, Mike, friend that money.

891
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: Man, Mike straighthean definitely he's a girl up watching that man.

892
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to be like him.

893
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: And then I realized I was like, man, I'm too

894
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: eighty five.

895
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: This is even so, this is even surreal because I

896
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 4: was looking at you like that. Now we're sitting here

897
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 4: on the podcast, were sitting here in the league together,

898
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: and it's though, for real, it's amazing.

899
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: I remember you were talking about it was one.

900
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 4: It was really you and von Miller are two guys

901
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: that I've always looked at, just on a vocal standpoint

902
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 4: of people who you know are going to give their

903
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: tips in pass rush. But you talk about you know,

904
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 4: I think you said something where you like if you

905
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: do it. If you go fast with bad technique, you're okay.

906
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 4: If you go fast with good technique, you're doing great.

907
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: But if you go slow with bad technique, you're.

908
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: Gonna be on the bench somewhere.

909
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: You said something like that, and that stuck with me

910
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 3: Like that, that stuck with me. That was something that

911
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: that I've taken.

912
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 4: And then you know, obviously there are gems that other,

913
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 4: you know, guys like you have been dropping, and it's

914
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: just up to the younger guys to keep you know,

915
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 4: using those gems and implement them into your game.

916
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: Man, I'm trying to tell you.

917
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: Look, I learned I learned that one early earlier, the

918
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: young thing, because my rookie year I was out there like,

919
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: all right, well I got to play the run. I

920
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: gotta have this technique. But if you move slow, even

921
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: if it's the right answer.

922
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: You're wrong, don't matter, you're wrong.

923
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: But if you move fast and you'd be like you

924
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: it's a b and you missed the wrong one, you

925
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: can still be in the right spot.

926
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: And you think about a guy like you think about

927
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: a guy like Max Crosby, and you know he's a

928
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: guy who right now is the epitome of you just

929
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 4: do it hard, do it fast. Everything's gonna work out.

930
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 4: He has This is no knock to him. He has

931
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: one move.

932
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 3: That swipe is the most danger it's move I've ever

933
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: seen a human.

934
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: Dude, He's got to counterspin too.

935
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: His his swipe is stupid. But understand how many guys

936
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: are gonna keep getting got with the swipe. How many

937
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: guys are gonna keep getting got with the long arm,

938
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: how many guys gonna keep getting got with a swim. Look,

939
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: when you perfect your craft, it doesn't matter about them.

940
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: I said this early, and often, an office a lineman

941
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: is just office a lineman. I'm now rushing against the

942
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: quarterback because I needn't know how fast he's releasing the ball,

943
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: because off's a lineman.

944
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: Their cattle. There's gonna be strong. There's gonna be strong ones.

945
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 4: But whatever, I never swiped till I saw Max Crosby

946
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: get like thirteen sacks off all swipes. Then I was like,

947
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 4: you know what, I was like something I need to

948
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: figure out. I gotta figure it out. And then he

949
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: just plays hard.

950
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 3: Man. When you play hard and you play every snap, dude,

951
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: you reap the benefits of it.

952
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

953
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: I was hoping you're gonna say, hey, I'm evolving to

954
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: a killer run stopper.

955
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: But you know what, I get it.

956
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 4: Look, age, that's the no, no, no, see, don't overlook

957
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 4: the run. That is the difference to me between a

958
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: lot of past rushers out there. Uh and let's say

959
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 4: four down football players. I told myself when I came

960
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: into Sleep, I'm be a four down guy. I'm not

961
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 4: the biggest guy, not the fastest guy, not the strongest guy,

962
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: but I'm going to be trustworthy on first down all

963
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 4: the way to fourth.

964
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: So when you talk about run stopping, you talk about

965
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: things like that, like that's you can't even rush the

966
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: passer unless you set in edge.

967
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: You got to I'm like, hey, I'll be waiting for

968
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: the move on my way. In fact, y'all think I was.

969
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: I think I was damaged by then the whole high

970
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: echo Anloyd goes like, all I could do is stop

971
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: the run.

972
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: Look.

973
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 4: Look, the cold the coldest thing is when you see

974
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: guys like and to me, I I came out of

975
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: a system in college where it was like there was

976
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: no jumping around blocks to make a play right, And

977
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 4: it's like when you're in the league, though, it's like,

978
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: you know, you almost get frustrated a little bit because

979
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 4: it's like, yo, all these guys are making these tackle

980
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: for losses and are jumping around blocks and I've a

981
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: gap and here you are, like but and it's like me,

982
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: you will, you take it, you make it. And it's

983
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 4: like you start to realize that when you are a

984
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: guy who has the instinct and you have the trust

985
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 4: within your coaches, it's like, you gotta go play big

986
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 4: and make big plays. And you know, I always think

987
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 4: of a guy like TJ Watts.

988
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: TJ.

989
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: Watch go to the casino one time.

990
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: You go, you TJ Y get twenty sacks and he's

991
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: gonna get ten tackles for losses because he gonna jump them.

992
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: He gonna take it, he gonna he gonna play his game.

993
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: And it's amazing.

994
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: He knows his body type and he's like, look, what

995
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: I'm not here gonna do is is set the edge

996
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: every time against somebody who outweiys me by eighty to

997
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: ninety pounds. But what I can do is give you

998
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: all this movement. Oh, I can shoot up the field.

999
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh and now now you're nervous, and now I'm underneath

1000
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: and he also has got huge interior d linemen like

1001
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: across the board.

1002
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: But you know, but shoot, I appreciate you, bro. I'm

1003
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: gonna wrap this up real quick.

1004
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: Bro. I appreciate you tapping in with with me on

1005
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: my podcast Off the Edge. Bro.

1006
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: I see nothing but great things going for you.

1007
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: So you know, if you had eleven sacks this year,

1008
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: But I try and tell people, don't worry about the sacks.

1009
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: Worry about your process, because the sacks.

1010
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: Are gonna come.

1011
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you already built the process, so just keep

1012
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: on believing and keep on striving for greatness.

1013
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for having us. I appreciate you, bro.

1014
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: So there you have it. It's a wrap. I just

1015
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: want to say a huge thank you.

1016
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: To all my awesome listeners for rocking with me. But

1017
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: before I go, you know the drill come on now.

1018
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,480
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1019
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,720
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1020
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1021
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1022
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