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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did.

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Speaker 2: My name is Millie to Jericho, I'm Daniel Henderson.

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Speaker 1: And we're here to talk about the discourse, the film discourse, well,

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Speaker 1: to add to it at least, Yes, what what is?

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Speaker 1: I feel like discourse is being overused these days, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sort of like, that's a term that I remember

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Speaker 1: from grad school and that was being used casually amongst

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Speaker 1: just like people.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's one of those concepts I think that people

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Speaker 2: latch onto because it makes them sound real smart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of like real smart smart people

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Speaker 1: terms being thrown around lately amongst people who I know,

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Speaker 1: who I know personally are dumbasses.

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Speaker 2: Well, I got some discourse for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm ready. I'm ready to hear it.

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Speaker 2: So you know, you know, I watch a lot of

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Speaker 2: television with my grandma mm hmmm, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: it is daytime TV, of course, and there's just so

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Speaker 2: much weirdness that happens in daytime TV that I don't

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Speaker 2: think I think we could have a whole podcast about it,

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Speaker 2: which we will not. We don't have the time or

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Speaker 2: space in our lives for it. But someone should do it,

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Speaker 2: because there is a lot going on. There's a lot happening.

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Speaker 2: There's particularly a lot happening in commercials. So we've already

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Speaker 2: talked about the campus Une commercials and how now I

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Speaker 2: get ads and emails for it. One thing I noticed,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's possible. If I'm the first person

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Speaker 2: to put this out there, that's fine, I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering. I mean, I don't know if people are aware.

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Speaker 2: But Tom Selleck is the new Wilford Brimley. Okay, I have.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you're going to have nothing but support

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Speaker 1: for this theory.

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Speaker 2: I came with receipts I did.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm curious as to why you think this, and

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Speaker 1: it's simply because of.

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Speaker 2: Commercials. Yes, ok So, as we know Anthony Wilford Brimley,

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Speaker 2: who died in twenty twenty. Can you believe that twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was dead in nineteen eighty nine. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I know. I know. The man lived. He truly lived,

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Speaker 2: and growing up he was a spokesperson for a lot

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Speaker 2: of things. He was the face of Quaker oats, that's right.

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Speaker 2: He did diabetes education, that's right. And he did commercials

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Speaker 2: for Liberty Medical and Liberty Medical still to this day

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Speaker 2: does most of their advertising during the daytime slots of course,

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Speaker 2: right right. So he was like that spokesperson for like

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Speaker 2: old people shit shore when we were kids. Yeah, here's

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Speaker 2: how old we are. Now Tom Selick is now doing that.

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Speaker 2: Tom Selik is out here in a commercial for a

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Speaker 2: company called Aage that sells reverse mortgages, and he is

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Speaker 2: sitting down at and homes. He is sitting across from

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Speaker 2: tables like real folksy, like folks, I wouldn't tell you

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Speaker 2: to do something that wasn't completely right and safe for you.

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Speaker 2: Get a reverse mortgage, live your life. And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: at some point this week I have seen those commercial

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Speaker 2: hundreds of times. At some point this week, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: holy shit, he's Wilford Brimley. In our lifetime, we have

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Speaker 2: watched an actor become the new Wilford Brimley.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have so much to say and so many questions. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Number number one, there have been stages before Tom Selleck,

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Speaker 1: because I remember, and it's kind of that thing where

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Speaker 1: And I remember when it was like William Shatner and

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Speaker 1: Alex Trebek and all of this, all of these people,

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, okay, you're not I'm like sitcoms anymore.

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Speaker 1: You're maybe on celebrity roasts once in a while or something,

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Speaker 1: Magnum p I stuff, right, or even the friends.

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Speaker 2: Stuff, right. But he's on Blue Bloods. See, That's what

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm I'm like, that's why I'm kind of going, does.

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Speaker 2: He need to be doing these commercials? Like I'm like,

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Speaker 2: he seems fine, and this is this is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: He has been acting for like the years, yeah, for

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Speaker 2: very weird. I love that impression of Wilford Brimley that

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Speaker 1: In fact, if we get a user Casey to make

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure, I'm sure that's already done. Casey's quick.

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Speaker 2: Casey is lightning quick, but he is. It's like this,

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Speaker 2: you know, and a reverse mortgage is such a weird

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Speaker 2: And I don't even know if you're buying it because

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Speaker 2: it's like they give you money. It just seems like

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Speaker 2: and I don't know why he's a spokesperson for it,

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Speaker 2: but it is very strange to see him go from

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Speaker 2: you gotta get your reverse mortgage, go on vacation, have

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm also and this is because I'm not

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Speaker 1: a homeowner, Okay, I guess I'm a little unclear of

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Speaker 1: what a reverse mortgage is too.

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Speaker 2: Somebody is nobody knows what it is. Is that a scam?

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Speaker 2: Actually I don't. To me, it sounds like a fucking

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Speaker 2: reverse anything that's a scam. Okay, I'm looking it up.

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Speaker 2: But to me, it's like they pay you money so

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Speaker 2: that they like, whoever you're paying money to, I guess

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Speaker 2: owns your house when you die, or whoever he's giving

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Speaker 2: you money own owns your house because they're paying the mortgage.

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Speaker 1: It says, a reverse mortgage is a mortgage loan usually

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Speaker 1: secured by a residential property that enables the borrower to

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Speaker 1: access the unencumbered Okay, that's a big, big person where

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Speaker 1: The loans are typically promoted to older homeowners. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: why older homeowners? I guess that's kind of what I

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Speaker 2: I think probably because they have more time invested in

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Speaker 1: It says a homeowner who is sixty two or older

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Speaker 1: and has considerable home equity can borrow against the value

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Speaker 1: sum or a line of credit. Okay, so it is

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Speaker 1: Why we're like, what the fuck is a reverse mortgage?

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Speaker 1: And then that's why it's been like, you know, siloed

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Speaker 2: In that shit. They put them right on it. And

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Speaker 2: it's like basically, i mean from what it sounds like,

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Speaker 2: then and the house sells, you have to pay back

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Speaker 2: want to give your house to your kids or something, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the kids have to pay it back. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What if you die in one of these lawsuits from

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Speaker 1: the other commercials that you watch the morning, and then

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Speaker 2: Right? I mean, I'm very confounded by the entire process,

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Speaker 2: but nothing more than the fact that Tom Selick is

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Speaker 2: me at a moment where I'm like, I'm old. Now,

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Speaker 1: Well do you even think again I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: back to this And I don't know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Tom Selleck himself is going to like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like that's some CBS money that ain't nothing. That's actually

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Speaker 2: That's long running network money. If he doesn't need to

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Speaker 2: be doing it, does he actually believe in it? Has

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Speaker 2: he done it? Has he done a Riverse mortgage? Like?

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Speaker 2: It just brings up so many questions, Like Wilford Brimley

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Speaker 2: part of his diabetes education thing where he's like this

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Speaker 2: like the Liberty medical thing. He had a lot of

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Speaker 2: fucking medical bills. It makes sense. Wilford Brimley's trajectory made

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even though I gotta say, Wilford Brimley could have

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Speaker 2: Don't even get me started on Cocoon and how they're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I know here, Okay, I wanted to go

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Speaker 1: anything that you just said, was that do you remember

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Speaker 1: where you were when you first saw Tim Daily and

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, me too, huge crush.

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Speaker 2: On Tim Daily.

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Speaker 1: We have we talked about Wings, like how obsessed I

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Speaker 2: Noting it was it was a show for middle aged people,

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Speaker 2: so it is not surprising that you were obsessed with it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there there was. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like kids stuff once in a while,

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Speaker 1: but for the most part, I did watch like Empty

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Speaker 1: Nest and Wings when I was twelve.

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Speaker 2: This is why we're friends. It's totally fine, exactly.

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Speaker 1: We've We've outlined this several times on this podcast. But

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Speaker 1: Wings was I I was like, here are the two

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Speaker 1: hottest dudes in America.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't even really know a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of dudes at the time, to be honest, I just

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Speaker 1: he got like a rough on the edge, just party guy.

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Speaker 1: And then you got the uptight older brother guy. And

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Speaker 1: I loved the older brother guy, like of course I did.

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Speaker 1: I'm an older sister. I gravitate towards people like me,

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Speaker 1: and I always like in every boy band, in every

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Speaker 2: Your favorite new kid was Jonathan Knight's true, Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's like I'm always that, like, who's the older brother

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Speaker 1: who's like feeling a little too old for this scenario?

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Speaker 2: And that's me.

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Speaker 1: So I was I was like Tim Dally's my guy,

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Speaker 1: not for nothing. I saw him at the Women's march,

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Speaker 2: I was like, that is our woe king.

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Speaker 1: But then when I saw him in those vaccine commercials,

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Speaker 1: I was like, he's doing the old people commercials.

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Speaker 2: Now, what the fuck? He doesn't even look that old. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: think I just did. When you were screaming about Courtney

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Speaker 1: Yes, I did not know that either. He's known for Saw.

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Speaker 2: right now, dude has not taken a break. Like, why

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what these what these are

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Speaker 2: You haven't seen Doctor Chopper. We are watching Doctor Chopper

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Speaker 1: If Doctor Chopper is not the prequel to Doctor Giggles,

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Speaker 2: Thank you. But these are the thoughts I have, Like

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Speaker 2: He was an actor, he was a model, right.

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Speaker 1: He's been in like seven seven things, one of them

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Speaker 2: Come on? Like an apartment? Well, if he owns it,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's you know, he's he's got to basically let

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Speaker 2: I'm just I find it shocking, and I wasn't ready

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Speaker 1: Wilfrid Brimley, Wilfrid Brimley from Heaven is going to hold

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Speaker 2: Then joy glasses will grow on his face. Little round

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Speaker 2: It's like this, this dude never he always comes back

433
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: the same. He never dies. He never Wilford Brimley never

434
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: really dies. He passes the shit on. Twenty five years

435
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 2: from now, you're watching the Prices, right, you've just retired.

436
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: Who is in the commercials selling you a reverse mortgage?

437
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna google who's the most famous twenty five year old.

438
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: But this is the thing. It won't be them, because

439
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: they will be in their prime. They'll be brad pitting it.

440
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: So you're saying, somebody's gonna be at least in their thirties.

441
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: Somebody our age, Oh, our age. Okay, it's going to

442
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 2: be selling us things in twenty five years. Who is

443
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 2: going to be selling us reverse mortgages in twenty five years?

444
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: Or colonial pen insurance?

445
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: Chris Pine, Chris Pine. Here's why, here's why. He already

446
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: has like the smoker's gruff.

447
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? Like Chris Pine is

448
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: craggy hot, y'all.

449
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that, but Chris Pine

450
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: is fucking craggy hot, always has been.

451
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: When I saw the first wonder Woman movie, I.

452
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: Was like, this guy looks like he smokes like two

453
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: packs a day, and he's gotta be my.

454
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 2: Age or younger.

455
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: So he's he's already he looks like a seventies actor.

456
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, Okay, well, this guy's already doing

457
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: those commercials like he's doing them.

458
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: He's just the right look. But he's a star. It

459
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: has to be. He's a star. William Shatner was a star, dude,

460
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: Like he's a movie star.

461
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that movie star. Okay, maybe you're

462
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: right about that. All these are TV stars.

463
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 2: Love. I love this answer a lot. I'm thinking of, like,

464
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: who's the Tim Daily of our generation? Like? Is it

465
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: the dad from Twilight? I've oh, yeah, you know what

466
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Like just gave us enough to know who

467
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: it is, but like, not movie star. I don't even

468
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 2: know that guy's name though. That's the thing I don't know.

469
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't know him.

470
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: He's so hot and I don't know his name, and

471
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: I've never seen it the Tim Daily of our generation?

472
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: Like of of our age?

473
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: Is it Mark Paul Gossler? I mean that could be it.

474
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean he was a little bit more of a

475
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: teeny bopper though, that's like his his He was like

476
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: a child star.

477
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: Almost, but then he came back with what was that

478
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: show he did? Like Rizzoli and Isles know that was

479
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: the lead Franklin.

480
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: And bash I've talked about it, Yes, I've seen I've

481
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: seen Franklin and Bash merch in my desolate office space

482
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: at work.

483
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: I think it could be a gossly Er simply because

484
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: he's got a face recognition. Yeah, that's're a heart throb.

485
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: What look listen, what about your boy, your fucking boy.

486
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 2: What's what do you call him?

487
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: The one you see at the coffee shop all the time?

488
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: Your little Jojo Jojo dancer, Jimmy Jams Lewis yo yo.

489
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: It could be Vanderbeek. It could be Vanderbeek. I'm saying,

490
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: you see him all the time at my coffee shop,

491
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: and I went to when I lived in La Yeah,

492
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: I can see it. Come on, I got you. I

493
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: can absolutely see it. I think that's the level of

494
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking is like, you're famous enough, we know

495
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: your face, We're excited to see you in twenty five years. Yeah,

496
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: and then we're like, oh damn, they're selling us catheters.

497
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: Look, I mean, I sat there. I personally think Tom

498
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: Selleck is being greedy.

499
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: But you know, if this is, if this is.

500
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: The vibe, it's not do whatever you gotta do to

501
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: make that scratch. I'm just saying I will personally be

502
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: taking Cyanide pills because I will say I am too old.

503
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: I am simply too old to live. All of the

504
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: actors of my generation are now. You know, do hawk

505
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: at all this old people's stuff. They're wearing the sketchers

506
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: without laces, and I just simply.

507
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: Tell me, what, what is it? What is your beef

508
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: with sketches without laces.

509
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: I just I'm just My dad was the one that

510
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: told me that's this transitional shoe, the.

511
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: Transitional sho on to like old age.

512
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: He was like, I stopped wearing laces the minute those

513
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: sketchers came in the door, which he wanted coals at coals. Okay,

514
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: he's not wearing laces since.

515
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: What this is revolutionary to me? What? Yeah?

516
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was like, once those sketchers came through,

517
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: those like foamy they're like foam sneakers with no way.

518
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: You just slide them on and somehow you don't get

519
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: your heels stuck in the back. Like it's like this

520
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: weird technology that the Sketcher's brand came up with where

521
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, you don't have to struggle with

522
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: like trying to wiggle your heel into them. They just

523
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: slip in there. You don't have to tie any laces,

524
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: and they're a comfort orthopedic shoe.

525
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: I've seen these commercials, yeah, during the daytime, because they're

526
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: hawking the shit to pregnant ladies, old people. It's one

527
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: of those commercials where somebody like tries to put on

528
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: their shoe and they grab their back and they're like.

529
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, Oh. I was like, why don't you just

530
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: wear a fucking boat shoe? Wear a doc shoe. There's

531
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: two holes. There's two holes, that's not too many. Told no,

532
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: he won't even wear those?

533
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: Can I interest you in a slipper, a sandal, a birkenstock.

534
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: Well, he does wear a lot of like he wears

535
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: like recovery slides now because he's cool. He wears recovery slides.

536
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: What it's been your dad please golf?

537
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he slides into his hookah recovery slides. But then

538
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: when he wants to be like he's like I gotta

539
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: go to dinner, he's wearing those laceless sketchers. Or when

540
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: he goes to the casino, it's like, let me put

541
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: my dress shoes on my laceless sketchers.

542
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: Cannot believe that you have not sent me a picture

543
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: of this at any time in the past. You were

544
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: just hanging out with your dad.

545
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: Well, because it's like, I don't know how to feel

546
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: about it, to be honest, because I'm like, yo, my

547
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: dad's in this mode, you know, And it's all about.

548
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: Age, it's all about us confronting death. Of course it is.

549
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: But he has a whole spiel ready for it. He

550
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: told you it was a transitional shoe. Yeah, oh yeah,

551
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: he's Uh.

552
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: Listen, old guys love to talk about that foot where.

553
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: Make no mistake, they have opinions about shoes.

554
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: In a way that I never would have ever imagined.

555
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: So they don't have to be sneaker heads. They can

556
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: just be footheads. Oh yeah, they're all about that foot

557
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: that art support everything. And let me also say that

558
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: this in case you're wondering, listener, the transitional shoe, the

559
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: slip in sketcher is a transit, the next step, the

560
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: final step, the last pair of shoes you will own.

561
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: Velcrow romper stompers. It's fucking common for all of us

562
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: romper stoppers a velcro.

563
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: Are you talking about those extremely huge two velcrow strap

564
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: shoes that you could get it like you know, sears

565
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: or whatever.

566
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: Yes, but they have like a heel of varying thickness

567
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: and they are meant purely for sliding along the floor.

568
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: They're not meant for raising your feet. Wow, it is

569
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: your final pair of shoes. It is a romper stomper.

570
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: Do you think that Tom.

571
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: Selik is in those romper stumpers.

572
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: I think he's in transitional shoe. I think he's in

573
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: a slip on okay, or a Croc. I can see

574
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: him in a croc, I mean, not a transitional shoe.

575
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: It better not be, because I have like four pairs

576
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: of Crocs.

577
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: So unless I'm in denial about some shit, I think

578
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: Crocs and dance go sandals are transitional shoes.

579
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: Then that it's me into a fucking team dog, because

580
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I love a danceco clog and I

581
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: love love a Croc.

582
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: I mean, but here's the thing about both of those.

583
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: They can still be for working folks. I mean there's

584
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: a lot of like nurses and people in the food

585
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: and beverage industry that wear those shoes, so you can

586
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: still you know, you're not retired yet sometimes, but when

587
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: it comes to slipping in.

588
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is they are a transitional shoe because

589
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: you are old and concern with your foot health. Now,

590
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: oh one hundred percent.

591
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's if you like, when you move away

592
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: from waiting tables in converse and you move towards a

593
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: dance go towards an Allegria and towards any of these brands,

594
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: shoebrands that are one hundred and twenty dollars or more.

595
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: That's when suddenly you have a concern about you've got planners,

596
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: fasci itis or a bunyan or something, and you are

597
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: no longer young.

598
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: Hate to tell hate to tell it, babe, is just

599
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 2: the way it is. That foot ain't bouncing back. You're

600
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: transitioning to a bell crow shoe. Soon you're gonna get

601
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: to a point where you think a slip on sketcher

602
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: is a cute shoe. I see.

603
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I would be the last holdout for

604
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: a sketcher. But I've said a lot of things in

605
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: my life that I was like, I'm never doing that shit.

606
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: Man.

607
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: I didn't wear I didn't wear Birkenstocks. I had this,

608
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: like crazy I had this like crazy hatred of Birkenstocks

609
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: for years, and it was entirely because of that Jane's

610
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: Addiction video where the guy throws the Birkenstock on stage

611
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: and Perry Ferrell's like, somebody throws a Birkenstock?

612
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: Who threw a Birkenstock?

613
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: And I was like, fuck those shoes they're for hippies.

614
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: I have heard so many reasons why people don't like Birkenstock.

615
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: That is the weirdest one. Weirdest one because a music

616
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 2: video for I think it was for like the nothing

617
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: Shocking era. Although of Jane's addiction that is wild. That's

618
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: a wild confession. Listen.

619
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: The crator of Lollapalooza didn't like Birkenstocks, was offended that

620
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 1: someone threw one on stage during a Jains and the concert.

621
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: And that's I literally did wear them for like twenty

622
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: five years up until now, up until the last like

623
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: five to eight years of my life. I'm like, yo,

624
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: them shits are comfortable.

625
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: Do you remember that tan I had in la Oh?

626
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: I remember fucking Bergostocks. Dude for them all the time.

627
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: I'm still wear them all the time. Oh my god,

628
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: I will I would. I would also say, I personally

629
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: think that you would fred Flintstone it before you went

630
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: into a velacure romber snopper. Uhh yeah, I would never

631
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: do that. I just think you'd barefoot it. Yeah.

632
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if I live another twenty five years, I

633
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: feel like there will be like very little I will

634
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: stick to. But I might stick to that because I

635
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: just don't think they look I can't make those cute.

636
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: No, but you're not supposed to be. The cute is over.

637
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: That's that's what that shoe signals. Yeah, there is no

638
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: more cuteness. That's been in too far, for sure. In

639
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: a holiday sweater, an elastic waist pant, polyester pant, which

640
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: I think they just mail to you when you retire.

641
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: I've never seen those pants for sale. Every single old

642
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: person I know has pair or two or three. Oh yeah,

643
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: oh yeah. I think they just send them to you.

644
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: They're like, welcome, you cross the thresholds a ARP and

645
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: then you just get polyester elastic pants in the mail.

646
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: They're like, we know that you are completely bogged down

647
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: by the idea of having choices, and now you'll just

648
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: receive pants in the mail, and you'll get a food

649
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: pill every day and wear these slidy, fucking ugly shoes

650
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: and you'll love it.

651
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: You'll just simply love it. Here's how you know the

652
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: polyester elastic waist pant is unconscionable. Not a single generation

653
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: has tried to make it cool. Not a single generation

654
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: has been like, you know what I'm rocking today? A

655
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: polyester elastic waist pant. Yeah.

656
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about this in a very

657
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: early episode, like no, no, like hipster came through and

658
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: is trying to take like deeply old clothes and making

659
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: them exactly you know, like like those sweaters that have

660
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: the doilies on them.

661
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: Yes.

662
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: Remember we were like, yo, like, how come we don't

663
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: see people on Melrose wearing fucking doily bib sweatshirts?

664
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: A doily bib sweatshirt with like those rose colored plastic glasses. Yeah,

665
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: that people like if you had if you had parents

666
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: who cared about your eyes, that's what you wore in

667
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: fourth grade. Yeah, that and old people they wore those glasses.

668
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think it's a compleak, a ton of ground.

669
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: We ended it on the darkest note possible.

670
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: This is some bleak shit. I'm just I'm just saying

671
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: Tom Selleck is a new wealthy brims getting old as hell,

672
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: and there's a transitional shoe that I was unaware of.

673
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one of those Hey, it's gonna be

674
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: one of those sodes you are classicisode.

675
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: And I cannot wait, I cannot wait. Do you want

676
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: to tell them what our theme is? So that we

677
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: can talk about your movie right away. Fuck yeah.

678
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: Our theme for this week, which was created by Daniel Henderson,

679
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: is mom I said it picked me up at eight o'clock.

680
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: These are movies about the mall.

681
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: Right, movies about the mall, the feature malls in classic scenes. Actually,

682
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: actually our movies were filmed at the same mall.

683
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: Did you know that? I know I looked at but.

684
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, a very famous mall called the Sherman Oaks Galleria

685
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: in Sherman Oaks, California, where they shot a lot of

686
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: amazing movies.

687
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, it's kind of an extensive list. If you're

688
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: ever like, if you're listening to this at night and

689
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: you're just scrolling on your phone, look it up.

690
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Valley Girl and Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

691
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: It was like it was the place in the eighties

692
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: to shoot.

693
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: Have we talked about this? You?

694
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: Have you worked in the mall before? Have we talked

695
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: about this? Oh?

696
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've definitely worked in the mall. I worked at

697
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: a Gloria Jeans in the mall. Okay, when I first

698
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: moved to California when I was nineteen. Yeah, and I'm like,

699
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: that's I live close to the mall. I could skateboard there.

700
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: That's where I'm working. What was the name?

701
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 1: So, what is the name of your favorite mall?

702
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: Like your mall if you were you know, here's the thing.

703
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: When I was growing up, our mall was the Orange Plaza,

704
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: right because my town is an Orange County, New York,

705
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: and Orange Plaza was your typical brown and orange affair. Then,

706
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: by stroke of pure luck, a new mall opened down

707
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: the street in that town, same town, new mall, and

708
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: it was called the Galleria. Oh wow, And it was

709
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: just in time for me to be in high school

710
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: and have friends who could drive, and we had a

711
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 2: brand new fucking mall at our disposal. Wow, this shit

712
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: was poppin'. So that's what I think of what I

713
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: think of a mall. I think of first Orange Plaza,

714
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: Rest in Peace, Queen, Yes, which is now a dirt mall.

715
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: It turned into like a dirt mall, and then it

716
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: was a flea market, and now it's like a series

717
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: of shops like a Chipotle and a bed bathroom beyond

718
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: kind of situation. But the Galleria still hoppin'.

719
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're lucky, because a lot of malls are not

720
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: cool anymore. There's a lot of shipball malls, especially around

721
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: here where I live, which there are times I secretly

722
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: love it.

723
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: Not gonna lie.

724
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes they have like one story you're like, oh, remember

725
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: that one store, and then you go in there and

726
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: it's like everything else is haunted as fuck. But then

727
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: you're like, but they got an h and m how

728
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: was this pos you know?

729
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: But every other store has a gate in front of it,

730
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: like dark inside.

731
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Or it's like your uncle's furniture business.

732
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: Liquidation furniture exactly.

733
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: He's like, I just picked all this stuff off of

734
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: a truck and I now I rented some mall space

735
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: and I sell it here and bamboo so oh good.

736
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 2: Well when well, this is how I want to ask

737
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: how important was the mall to you? And when was

738
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: the last time you've been to one?

739
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: The mall extremely important to me, like extremely like identity everything.

740
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Uh my my childhood mall like elementary school ish was

741
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: Woodfield Mall in right outside of Chicago.

742
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: That was my mall.

743
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: They had an ice skating rink. I took ice skating

744
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: lessons there. Then when I was a teenager, it was

745
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: town Center Mall uh in uh, you know, North Atlanta.

746
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: Aka Marietta, Georgia. That's where, like I think I've talked

747
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: about how I, uh, this was a mall where you

748
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: could still smoke, and so all the teenagers would smoke

749
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: in the mall. And I worked there too. I worked

750
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: at the survey place. I don't know if I've ever

751
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: talked about that job I held. I held that job

752
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: actually in two different malls I worked at. I worked

753
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: at at the survey place in town Center in high school,

754
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: and then after I graduated college, I went back and.

755
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: Worked at a survey place in a different mall. Look,

756
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: that's where you get the most foot track. I don't

757
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: blame you. Oh yeah, And like you know those I'm

758
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: gonna tell you a secret right now.

759
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe these businesses don't want to hear this,

760
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: but it's been so long since I worked there. Uh,

761
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: those surveys are being taken by like fourteen year old

762
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: people and their friends, and they're coming up with fake

763
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: names and phone numbers, and they're just they're just trying

764
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: to get five bucks or like a gift certificate to

765
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: like Bahama Breeze. They don't give a shit about your products.

766
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: So way of collecting information.

767
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I mean, listen, the reason why Clamato

768
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: is on our shelves is because I guarantee me and

769
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: like ten of my friends were doing surveys to be like,

770
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah, extremely interested, would definitely buy. I'm like, fill

771
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: this out, here's your five bucks.

772
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: And that was it.

773
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: So oh but yeah, those extremely important.

774
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: And what was your other question? What was time you've

775
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: been to a mall? Oh?

776
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: I went to a mall like two weeks ago because

777
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: I had to return some clothes and uh, I went

778
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: to a fancy mall here in Atlanta and.

779
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: It was dead. It was and I was.

780
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: Like, wow, like fancy mall, you know, a mall that

781
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: has like high end shit. So it was like the

782
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: gimbals they have like tom Ford and oh you know,

783
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: like there's a Nordstrom there. There's no I don't know

784
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: what else, but it was like it's kind of the

785
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: thing where it's like a ship ball mall and a

786
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: really high end mall are both desolate, yep, because it's

787
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: like nobody can fucking afford a shop at the tom

788
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: Ford mall, and then like nobody wants to go to

789
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: the Uncle's furniture liquidation mall.

790
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 2: So they share. They share a commonality weirdly enough, and

791
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: it's a weird it's a weird sad history because malls

792
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: take up so much space and in so many towns

793
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: they're just empty and useless. Yeah, and it's a sign

794
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: of like a declining. There's a certain kind of declining

795
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: that it's a sign of, but it's also a sign

796
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: of like greed and space. And I don't know, it

797
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: just it brings up a lot of weird feelings for

798
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: me to see a mall, especially an empty one.

799
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: Oh, I totally agree, And I just because it felt

800
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: like such the center of socialization for when like before

801
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: you had a car, it was just like you get

802
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: dropped off at a mall and it's like you're likely

803
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: to see all your friends there. You're gonna see your

804
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: crushes there, you know, and like that's just where you

805
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time. And so I don't know,

806
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: in a weird way, I'm like, well, then where.

807
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: Do the kids go if this mall?

808
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: I was like, they don't even fucking go shopping like

809
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: that anymore.

810
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: You know, where do the kids go? The kids are

811
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: making a million dollars a year's Instagram influencers. They are fine.

812
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: The kids they're going to Macy's or whatever.

813
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: Their social network includes actual celebrities. They are fine, I know, though,

814
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: it is it was just such a hub, a hub

815
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 2: of so many things, and it really was the center

816
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: of our universe, especially in the eighties and in early nineties,

817
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: and it was, I don't know, this is a very special,

818
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: weird place where you were forced to be around all

819
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: walks of life. Yeah, if you wanted to go and

820
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 2: buy a cassette or a CD, you had to suffer

821
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: through a mall. Yeah.

822
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, with these two movies that

823
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: we picked this week, You're movie in eighty four, my

824
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: movie in eighty five at the same damn mall.

825
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: This you couldn't have found. I mean, this is.

826
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: Probably like the absolute era in the absolute place. Like

827
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: it's just like the finest example of the power of

828
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: a mall ever.

829
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: Truly thought. I'm so excited. I'm so excited that we

830
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: each picked our movies. And I cannot way to talk

831
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: about yours.

832
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can'tot wait to talk about yours.

833
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, this is gonna be a fun one.

834
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: As you heard, we're on one.

835
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: So strap the fuck in, don't promise them shit. Do

836
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: not promise them shit, because I'll tell you right now,

837
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: me talking about my movie is going to sound like

838
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm having a stroke strap the fuck in.

839
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's get into it then.

840
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm going first. So my movie for the theme mom

841
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: I said to pick me up at eight o'clock is.

842
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: The movie from nineteen eighty five. It was written by

843
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: Stephen E. Desusa, directed by Mark L. Lester, and it's

844
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: called Commando.

845
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: Remember Sally, I promised to kill you last That's what alright, lie.

846
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: I am just get a start out by saying this

847
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: movie should have been called white Man Convinced as a

848
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: Black woman to do crimes.

849
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: And they have no romance, no romance, just crimes, just crimes.

850
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: We got to talk a lot about raid On CHOHn

851
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: like in this movie. Oh my god, her character is

852
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: absolutely essential, absolutely fucking essential.

853
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: I've talked about this movie before.

854
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Actually, remember when we remember when we did our bonus episodes.

855
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: Okay, it was very early on.

856
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: We did an entire bonus episode of our favorite action films,

857
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: and I think I revealed that I did not actually

858
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: see this movie when I was a child. No, and tbh,

859
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen a lot of that kind of classic

860
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: eighties action because that's our childhood, right, Like every every

861
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: boy in our school was obsessed with like Predator and

862
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: Commando and Determina. It was just like this big action

863
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: movie era. And the funny thing is is that I

864
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: had always heard that Commando was great, Like, how could

865
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: I have not seen it, despite the fact that I've

866
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: loved Terminator two since it came out, and I'm a

867
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: huge fan. I gotta say I'm a huge fan of

868
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: pre Govenator Arnold. We've talked about this as well, So,

869
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: oh god, how can you not see Commando? It's like

870
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: his best So at some point a few years ago,

871
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: I did rectify the situation and I went on a

872
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: date with someone and we watched it together. And while

873
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: the day did not ultimately work out, this movie did, thankfully,

874
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: because this shit is fun as shit. There's so many

875
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: things to love about Commando. Oh my god, it's so good.

876
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: It's first of all, it's directed by Mark Lester.

877
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 2: Like Mark L.

878
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: Lester, He's made some of the craziest movies that I love.

879
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: He made fucking.

880
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: Roller Boogie, he made the Class of nineteen eighty four.

881
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: He made stunts an incredible film that Robert Forrester was in,

882
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: and he packs a lot into Commando. I mean it's

883
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: like all killer, no filler, it's never boring. And then

884
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: you've got great actors in it. So you got obviously

885
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: like Arnold, but then you've got like ray Don Chong

886
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: and Vernon Wells and Bill Duke and our hersuit King

887
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: Dan Hedeia.

888
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: You have you know, well known actors playing absolutely bonkers parts. Yes,

889
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: one hundred percent.

890
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: But I will, having said any of this just now,

891
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: this movie is a showcase for Arnold Schwartzday. You're plain

892
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: and simple like and I'm gonna say this honestly without

893
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: a horny bone in me, I promise you. But the

894
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: ways in which Arnold was objectified in this film, without

895
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: one deflection to humor or like self facement, is a

896
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: fucking joy.

897
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: Oh. The male gaze is strong in this movie.

898
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean think about it, folks. I mean you

899
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: don't see that often at all, and I think that

900
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: we have sort of touched upon the subject in previous episodes.

901
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: It's that whole like there's like action movies and like

902
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: anytime there's like, you know, muscular dudes with no shirts

903
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: on in movies these days. Their movies are way too

904
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: self conscious. They don't pull this kind of shit that

905
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: you see in Commando. Okay, it's always like even in

906
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: a movie like Magic, Mike Channing Tatum to me is

907
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: probably like one of the most currently objectified men in film.

908
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: But he's like funny too.

909
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's funny and he cracks jokes, and he's like,

910
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: you know, self effacing, like he he like, you know,

911
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: ribs himself, and.

912
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 2: I'm just like that.

913
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: It's not Arnold in Commando at all.

914
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: He tries to make jokes, but it's never at his

915
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: own expense, right, No, he's not telling you. I know

916
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: I'm hot, and i know I'm sweating, and i know

917
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm muscular. Don't be afraid of that.

918
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: Just like I'm gonna show you I'm a normal guy,

919
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: but I'm also this like mythical beast.

920
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: He's like, no, I'm just a.

921
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: Straight up mythical beast, and you will like watching it.

922
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: A lord.

923
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: And this is Arnold, I swear to god, classic era Arnold.

924
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: He was right off the first Terminator movie. It's it

925
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: is flat top Arnold with his uncapped teeth, and he's

926
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: still like in full body builder mode. He is like huge,

927
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, this entire script is designed to

928
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: show how strong he is and how good he is

929
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: it killing people, and how he is a mythical creature.

930
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,479
Speaker 2: It's incredible. They come out of the gate with where

931
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: the first time you really see him, he's carrying a

932
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 2: tree down the side of a mountain. Yes, just straight

933
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: up carrying a tree, Yeah, down the side of a mountain.

934
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: Within five minutes of this film being on, there's a

935
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: really tight close up of his bicep and it's just sweating.

936
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine? And it's not there's no joke.

937
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: It's just literally like, here's my sweating, sweating, flexed bicep.

938
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 2: Who got the man rips through an airplane? In this movie,

939
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: he takes a car seat out of a car, Like,

940
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: you are absolutely correct that this is just about showcasing

941
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: his whole steez.

942
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: Yes, Like, I don't even have a one sentence synopsis.

943
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you, like the basic premise and

944
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: then we're just gonna go We're just gonna hit it

945
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: as hard as possible. Okay it The basic premise of

946
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: Commando is that Arnold plays the retired army or like

947
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: special Forces guy. And his name is John Matrix. I

948
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: mean we I cannot get over this name. It's like

949
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: a chev Chelli oh situation. John Matrix. Okay, he is retired.

950
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: He's like living with his young daughter, who was played

951
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: by Alissa Milano, right.

952
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: Jenny Matrix.

953
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: Jenny Matrix is her name, Jenny Matrix. They're living in

954
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: the mountains where they have this very peaceful, bucolic lifestyle.

955
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: In the opening credits, they're like feeding a deer out

956
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: of their hands, and they're like learning martial arts, and

957
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: it's this whole like we're having a lot quality daddy

958
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: daughter time. It's no idea if there's a mom or

959
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: where the mom is. It's just the two of them

960
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: ever mentioned, never hanging out. Alyssa Milano has a very sensible,

961
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: like older woman's haircut, and there are times if you're

962
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: not like if you're just kind of like if you're

963
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: looking at your phone and then you accidentally look up

964
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: or something, you will be like, is that his actual wife?

965
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: Like, No, that's his twelve year old daughter. I wanted

966
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: to raise this point because in this opening, in the beginning,

967
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 2: there is a point where she makes him a meal

968
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: and the way that she brings it to the table.

969
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 2: You're like, this is very wife ly. This is like

970
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: a very wife husband behavior. This is not dad daughter behavior.

971
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: And it's part of what she's saying, but also just

972
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: like how they're acting, yes, and then they like kiss

973
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: on the lips. At one point, she's straight up just like, oh,

974
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 2: what's going on in the news, and like giving him

975
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: like a fully plattered plate with like it looks like

976
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: a restaurant plate with like tomatoes on the side and

977
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: stacked on a bed of lettuce, and I'm like, sincerely.

978
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: So it's like, it's very bizarre. It's a weird vibe.

979
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 2: It's a weird vibe.

980
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: It's a weird vibe.

981
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

982
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: So of course suddenly a helicopter shows up in the

983
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: middle of all of this, Okay, as as it happens

984
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: in there in the life of the Matrixes, anything can happen,

985
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: including a fucking full on helicopter that just shows up

986
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: to their house. As it turns out, it's John Matrix's

987
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: former boss in the military, who's like he's literally like

988
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: gets out of the helicopter and says, listen, some bad

989
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: guys that you shut down back in the day are back,

990
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: and they are out here killing all your former buddies

991
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: at their civilian jobs, and they might be coming after you. Okay,

992
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: so here's the thing. The supervisor gets out of the helicopter,

993
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: tells him this fact, leaves him two army guys to

994
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: watch over them.

995
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: And the minute he leaves.

996
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: Some bad guy just pops out of the bushes, kills

997
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: the dudes, kills the dudes who were who literally just

998
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: got off the helicopter to protect before Arnold.

999
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: Gets a chance to tell one of them that he

1000
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: smelled them coming. Yes, yes, and like admonishing this dude,

1001
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: He's like, you didn't smell them coming, but your death

1002
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: is on you.

1003
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: Brow. Yes, he's got he's some he's like the best

1004
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: soldier that ever was. And he's like the Dalton of

1005
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: Special Forces guys. So like we cannot believe he retired.

1006
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's the best to have ever

1007
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: done it. He smelled people, He smelled people coming from

1008
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: a helicopter through the mountains.

1009
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: So these these bad guys pop out.

1010
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: Of the bushes, immediately killed the two guys and then

1011
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: kidnap Jenny Matrix. Okay, John Matrix comes down the Mountain

1012
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: to chase them. Then he ends up getting shot by

1013
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: a tranquil Azer dart by his former army buddy turned megabaddy,

1014
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: a guy named Bennett. He is played by Vernon Wells

1015
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: of the Mad Max movies of Weird Science. You definitely

1016
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: know him right, And a lot has been said about

1017
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: this Bennett character over the years, and a lot have

1018
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: questioned whether or not this Bennett character was gay because

1019
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: he's essentially.

1020
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: Wearing what we would now consider maybe.

1021
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: Gay fetish gear, like uh, chain mail, chain mail. Actually

1022
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: this chain mail vest that he's wearing.

1023
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: Is made of rope.

1024
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: And I was watching this documentary very recently about the

1025
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: International Male Catalog and there was a piece of clothing

1026
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: in that catalog that was that exact same vest that

1027
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: he's wearing.

1028
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: And I found out it was called a stoker, So damn,

1029
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: I know.

1030
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this is a this is a

1031
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: real weird top for this guy to be wearing.

1032
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: And he's got like a chain lock around his neck.

1033
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: He's got a huge mustache. I mean it's like a bandana, yeah,

1034
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: around his neck. He's he's a queer coding happening, Yeah.

1035
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: Definitely, But it's it's very fascinating to just kind of

1036
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: think about while you're watching this film. So John Matrix

1037
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: has been triqualized, and then he finds out the whole

1038
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: reason that this is all happening was that the former

1039
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: dictator of this country called Valverde. The dictator is played

1040
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: by Dana Veya. As I mentioned at the open apparently

1041
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: at some point he was ousted by Matrix's squadron, and

1042
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: then now he wants his job back, and so he

1043
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: wants John Matrix to go to Valverde to get rid

1044
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: of the current president so that he could be the

1045
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: dictator again or something.

1046
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: And I, how's this guy for me? Pease exactly. So

1047
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: then here's what happens.

1048
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: They forced John Matrix to get on an airplane at Alverde. Okay,

1049
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: they and they put a one of their thugs on

1050
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: to monitor him. And they get on this airplane and

1051
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: they sit in their seats, which they don't give John

1052
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: Matrix the window seat.

1053
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: And I was like, why did they not do that?

1054
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: Because he can just easily get up and escape, because

1055
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: he can smell people coming up a mountain.

1056
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: Because they didn't know a man could rip through a plane.

1057
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: Well that's exactly what happens.

1058
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: Okay, First of all, they're still boarding, they're in the

1059
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: boarding process, and John Matrix kills the guy cracks his neck.

1060
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: Nobody in first class hears it or season.

1061
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: And then Matrix literally rips open portions of the plane

1062
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: to try to get to the wheels as the plane

1063
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: is taking off. It's in the air, and then he

1064
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: jumps off the plane from.

1065
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: The wheels just right into like a lagoon, right into

1066
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: a lagoon. Then what does he do.

1067
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: He heads back to the airport and is like, he

1068
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: synchronizes his watch and he realizes, Okay, I got eleven

1069
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: hours till I'm supposed to be in Valverde, and so

1070
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: as long as I can get this shit done in

1071
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: eleven hours, then they'll never know I.

1072
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: It's never on the plane. Okay.

1073
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: So anyway, fast forward to the airport scene, because this

1074
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: is the part where he actually meets raid On. Okay,

1075
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: the other thug that dropped him off is some guy

1076
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: named Sully. He's played by David Patrick Kelly and he's

1077
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: from the Warriors in Twin Peaks. He's a fucking creep

1078
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: in this movie, so creepy he sees it. We get

1079
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: the introduction to Ray Nonshang. Okay, she's a flight attendant.

1080
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: She's on the phone, presumably just after one of her workshifts,

1081
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: and this guy starts hitting on her while she's talking

1082
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: on the phone, this great creeper, rude as shit. Then

1083
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: he follows her to the car in the park, neck

1084
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: hits on or some more, calls her a horror, walks away,

1085
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: and then when he leaves, suddenly John Matrix pops up and.

1086
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: Is like, get in the call, follow that man.

1087
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: And she's like, are y'all working together?

1088
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: Like?

1089
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: Well, am I being assaulted twice in the same minute.

1090
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: Oh, but don't worry. I'm gonna rip the seat out

1091
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: of your car so I can sit two inches lower

1092
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: than I normally would.

1093
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: Yes, this guy is ripping car parts, ripping airplane parts,

1094
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: that's how strong he is.

1095
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: It was unnecessary for him to do that, Like, it

1096
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: did not help out When he was sitting down on

1097
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 2: the onoessensibly what was the floor of the car, his

1098
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: head was still fully visible above yeah, fucking car door.

1099
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: It gave him maybe an inch and a half tops.

1100
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: There was no real.

1101
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: Comfort in that move.

1102
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: And you know what, despite the fact that Raydon is

1103
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: like fucking terrified about all of this shit that's happened.

1104
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: She's a great part of this film. I think she's

1105
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: essential to this film. She's got all the jokes, all

1106
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: the brains. We love to see it.

1107
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: Of course. So what happens. They start heading towards the.

1108
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: Sherman Oaks Galleria, and this mall scene is incredible for

1109
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: so many reasons. I mean, first of all, the galleria

1110
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: is in full eighties mode. There's like all the old

1111
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: store logos, and there's like that weird giant balloon stick

1112
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: art shit.

1113
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 2: In the raptors.

1114
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is, like a peep peo

1115
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: peo like laser balloon.

1116
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: It's a core and it's fucking packed. It's packed.

1117
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So they walk into the mall, John Matrix and

1118
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: Raydon and they're like and and John Matrix tells her

1119
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: in very simple terms. It's like he just says, I

1120
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: used to talk to that guy who called you a

1121
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: whore in the parking deck because he kidnapped my daughter.

1122
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: So what has to happen is that you got to

1123
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: go over to the Bennegins or wherever he.

1124
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 2: Just walked into.

1125
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: You got to try to put the moves on him

1126
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: and then bring him over here so I can tell

1127
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: so I can make him tell me where my kid

1128
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: is and then fucking murder him in front of all

1129
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: these people. Like that's the plan, right, And then, of

1130
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: course that plan immediately goes to shit because the David

1131
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: Patrick Kelly guy finds out what the fuck is going on.

1132
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: He runs to a phone booth to call his boss

1133
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: in Valverde or whatever, and then John Matrix literally goes

1134
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: ape shit, Like he humps from another level down to

1135
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: where Sully is using the phone, and then he rips

1136
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: the phone booth out of the foundation. The entire phone

1137
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: booth came off of the fucking foundation. And I'm like,

1138
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: this guy is a mythical beast. I mean, who in

1139
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: the fuck is doing this shit? And like it's pure

1140
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: pandemonium in the galleya.

1141
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: Everyone's screaming and running.

1142
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: There's like a hundred ball cops are all getting shot dead,

1143
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: there's cops falling down the stairs. I mean, it's wild.

1144
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: And then at some point John Matrix swings from one

1145
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: of the little balloon Theo's balloons. He swings from like

1146
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: the top deck onto a moving elevator and then he

1147
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: gets hit by a car in the parking deck.

1148
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? And then hit like.

1149
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: Eventually he gets to the car with raid On, they

1150
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: get into another high speed chase. It ends in a

1151
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: double car crash. Matrix completely unharmed, and then he grabs

1152
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: Sully out of his car, holds him over the side

1153
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: of a cliff Sugar night style, and he's so fucking strong,

1154
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: He's only holding the guy with one arm. I'm like,

1155
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: this guy is on some serious Royd's. I don't know

1156
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: what how is this strong?

1157
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: But listen.

1158
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: So you have this epic mall scene and then the

1159
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: other most memorable scene in the film comes up very

1160
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: shortly after this.

1161
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

1162
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: So John, Matrix and raid On go to a motel. Okay,

1163
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: the King Bill Duke, another battie, another Valverde battie. He's

1164
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: posted up at this motel. So you know that he

1165
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: and Arnold or get into a brawl.

1166
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: Okay. Arnold throws him through a door into.

1167
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: The next room where there are two random people having sex.

1168
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: Okay. I have debated.

1169
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: I have debated this with several people, including our guests

1170
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: from last week, Pete and Scottie on their podcast. I'm

1171
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: pretty sure the woman is pegging the guying him.

1172
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, when he busts open the door, she is

1173
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 2: behind the dude, Okay, doesn't necessarily have to mean that,

1174
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: but it means that.

1175
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: I it would be legendary if true. I don't know

1176
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: if anybody's gotten like hard confirmation that that's exactly what's happening,

1177
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,839
Speaker 1: But in my mind, I really want that to be happening.

1178
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 2: Dude. This is why I don't buy any accidental queerness

1179
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: in this movie. Like they're too bold, they're too provocative.

1180
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 1: But just imagine crashing into another person's hotel room but

1181
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: there's a woman pegging a guy. I mean, that's just

1182
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: like fucking. That's like chaos of the best order ever.

1183
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm just like, this is incredible, it's fun and

1184
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: it's funny too because Raydon's like crouching in the corner

1185
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: while all of this is happening, and she's and she

1186
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: says like some of the funniest lines, Like she basically

1187
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 1: is like I can't believe this macho bullshit, and that

1188
01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: these guys eat too much red meat, which maybe, like

1189
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: that was that was a very astute eighties observation, is

1190
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: that red meat was causing all of this, you know,

1191
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 1: hyper testosterone happening all around her. And I gotta tell

1192
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: you that if that's the problem, that is that's the problem.

1193
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: Because the rest of this film, Arnold is continuing his

1194
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: face of superhuman strength. He's flipping fucking cars, He's pulling

1195
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: giant chain locks apart with his bare hands. He's driving

1196
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: excavators through buildings. At one point, they break into this

1197
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: like Arby Navy store and they do this like toys

1198
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: r us fun run grab or they're just like taking

1199
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: all this like military grade weapons, shit and equipment. I mean,

1200
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm lucky that I didn't see this in eighty five,

1201
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: because I swear and I'm lucky I wasn't a twelve

1202
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: year old boy in eighty five, because I swear to God,

1203
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: I thought, I think my head would have exploded if

1204
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: it were me. You know, watching this scene of like

1205
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: them just grabbing weapons.

1206
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 2: The way this movie flows, it definitely is like meant

1207
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: to be re enacted on a playground.

1208
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. I mean, Raydon accidentally fires a

1209
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: rocket launcher in the wrong direction and she blows up

1210
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: a fucking building. She ends up flying a plane that

1211
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: she doesn't know.

1212
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: How to fly. She is getting her pilot's license, right,

1213
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: but she doesn't fly though what is it she does

1214
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 2: a fly says those or whatever.

1215
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: It's like this weird She's like, this is the only

1216
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: plane I don't fly, and of course like it's harrowing,

1217
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: but she makes it because she's essential to the film.

1218
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: There's also this like really epic scene where Arnold jumps

1219
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: out of the seaplane and he canoes to the island

1220
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: where like the you know dan Hedea characters, Evil Layer

1221
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: is and he's wearing these like black swimming breefs and

1222
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: then he weapons up like he's he's like basically naked canoeing.

1223
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: He gets to the shore, pulls all of his weapons

1224
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: out of the canoe, and then he starts put on

1225
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: It's like this see where he's putting a most like

1226
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,879
Speaker 1: tactical gear and like camel makeup, and there's like smoke

1227
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: in jungle. It's like there's this like free jazz saxophone

1228
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: that's been wailing literally the entire film, and it just

1229
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: kicks in a high gear and it's just this like

1230
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: ridiculous straight guy camp moment. You know what I'm saying,

1231
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 1: Like absolutely so over the top, and it's.

1232
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: This is the entire film.

1233
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: The entire film is basically like, look how strong Arnold

1234
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger is. Let's watch him kill as many people as

1235
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 1: possible and that and that's and raid On is there

1236
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: to provide levity.

1237
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: It's certain points. Dan Hidea is doing an accent mm

1238
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: from I don't know where hard to say, Yeah, I

1239
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 2: could not figure that out at all. Yeah, but why,

1240
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I get they've made up velve. He could

1241
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: have just been Dan Hadea. Yeah, it's true. That was

1242
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: a choice. It was a choice.

1243
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: It's a very eighties choice. Commando was straight guy Camp.

1244
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: It's also gay guy camp. I mean, it's everything, it's

1245
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: everything to all people. And honestly, it's so fun.

1246
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 2: It's so eighties.

1247
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, it's really like it really

1248
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: just packs a quick little punch, incredible.

1249
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: Mal scene and you know, I don't know.

1250
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean again, I watched this later in life, and

1251
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: now I'm regretting it because I think that if I

1252
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: was watching this as a child, I probably would have

1253
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: maybe have been a different person who knows it.

1254
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: Was pretty dope. I saw it as a child, and

1255
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: not when it first came out, Like I was seven

1256
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: when it first came out, I probably saw when I

1257
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 2: was like ten or eleven, and there were definite re enactments.

1258
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: There was a lot of jumping off of things into

1259
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: piles of leaves, attending that you were John Matrix.

1260
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was like like for me, like it felt

1261
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: like such a good classic Arnold role.

1262
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: Yea, so great choice, great mall scene. Oh great, I

1263
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: mean I loved it. I loved revisiting this time. I

1264
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: also loved revisiting my film. Oh of course. So my

1265
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 2: movie was released in nineteen eighty four. The screenplay is

1266
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 2: by Tom Everhart and it was also directed by Tom Eberhart.

1267
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 2: And my movie is Night of the Comet. Hey, I'm sorry,

1268
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 2: at the End of the World makes me a little nervous,

1269
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you a one sentence synopsis.

1270
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: My one sentence synopsis is two valley girls try to

1271
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: survive after a comet turns almost everyone on planet Earth

1272
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: into piles of red dust, but inexplicably turns some people

1273
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 2: into zombies.

1274
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:49,480
Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned this this movie during the Miracle Mile episode.

1275
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, this is an old standard for me, like

1276
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 2: an old favorite, and it's one of those movies where

1277
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: I never knew the name of it. For a while,

1278
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: like I always caught the end of it or caught

1279
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: a certain parts, and I never knew the name of

1280
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: it for a while, and then one day I saw

1281
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,919
Speaker 2: it from the beginning and I was like, holy shit. Yeah,

1282
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: but it is a standard and this movie is it

1283
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 2: is not good, but it is fun. Yeah, it is

1284
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 2: a bad fun movie. And this movie is also two stories.

1285
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: So in one story you have two valley girls trying

1286
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: to survive the apocalypse, and in the other story, you

1287
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: have a bunch of scientists deciding if they want to

1288
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: help anyone who survived the apocalypse. Like it's a very

1289
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: strange like watching these scientists, scientists fight over whether or

1290
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: not they should like save the only people left on

1291
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 2: Earth and have them like come down to their bunker.

1292
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: But first and foremost, there's a comment coming. And it's

1293
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: a fucking party like all the planet Earth, especially in La,

1294
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: in downtown La. It is a goddamn scene like people

1295
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 2: are holding upside. It's like a tale gate party for

1296
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,879
Speaker 2: a comment. Oh my god, that I forgot.

1297
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: I have not seen this movie in ages, and I

1298
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: forgot how fucking funny it is. At the very beginning

1299
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: of the movie, where it's that voiceover that's like sounds

1300
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: like a scientist type guy that's like explaining the comment,

1301
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: and then it immediately.

1302
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 2: Cuts to these like stupid.

1303
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: People in like Times Square that are like common fever baby,

1304
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: Like it's so funny, and.

1305
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: This one's also like weird and frustrating about the movie

1306
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: because it's that part is absolutely hilarious. But there's this

1307
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 2: whole voiceover about like the visitor has been here before

1308
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 2: and hashim been back for sixty five thousand years and

1309
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and then you never hear anything about

1310
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 2: it again, never hear anything about it again for the

1311
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,799
Speaker 2: rest of the movie. So you're like, Okay, this comment

1312
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: is probably tied to this visitor thing, but like who

1313
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: knows because we never hear about it again. So there's

1314
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: these these two all girls that are sisters. Could not

1315
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 2: buy two people being sisters less like I could not.

1316
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 2: There's no way in the course of human history that

1317
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 2: anyone is related in this sister pairing. So you have Regina,

1318
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 2: and Regina is played by Katherine Mary Stewart, and she

1319
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 2: works at a movie theater and she's obsessed with video games,

1320
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: and she also within like ten minutes of the movie

1321
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: starting protests and then negotiates fucking the projectionist who looks

1322
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 2: like a lumberjack. Yeah, and his name is Larry and

1323
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: he's played by Michael Bowen, a young Michael Bowen. Wow.

1324
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: And this is the only reason she survives this comment

1325
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: is because she's inside the projectionist booth fucking this lumberjack guy.

1326
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 2: Then you have her Samantha, and Samantha dresses like a

1327
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 2: French fried dipped in ketchup. She gets punched in the

1328
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 2: face by her very evil step mother. Their dad is

1329
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 2: like an army guy or he's like a military guy

1330
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 2: who's just gone. Yeah, and they're left with this horrible

1331
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: step mother who's like fucking everyone in the neighborhood and

1332
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 2: like hates them. But other than that, Samantha's genuinely unbothered. Yeah,

1333
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 2: Like there's not much getting to Samantha. So then the

1334
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 2: comment happens and we see the evil step mother out

1335
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 2: in this like block party looking up and the sky

1336
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 2: turns red. And then the next time you see those people,

1337
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: they are piles of clothes on the street next to

1338
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 2: piles of red dust that used to be people, and

1339
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: not even the dog survive, Like there are dog collars

1340
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: out there like nothing has survived. You were outside while

1341
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 2: this comment was happening. You died. Yeah, no explanation for

1342
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: how was it in the trail of dust for the commet?

1343
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. Did they drop something down, what did

1344
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: the visitor come down and chomp them all? I don't know,

1345
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: and you will never know because they never revisit this.

1346
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 2: But both Regina and Sam survived because they were inside.

1347
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 2: So Sam, because she got in a fight with her stepmother,

1348
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 2: is spent the night in the lawn shed and Regina

1349
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 2: was in the projection booth. So Regina comes home and

1350
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: there's this scene where she leaves the theater and it's

1351
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: the l Ray Theater, which is a pretty famous theater

1352
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: in la and I looked it up. Not only is

1353
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: it still hoppin', guess who's playing pretty soon Tody's and

1354
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: Reverend Horden heat fuck, yeah, it sounds like my jam.

1355
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: So she comes out of the l Ray and is

1356
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 2: completely unfazed by the piles of clothes and dust everywhere everywhere,

1357
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 2: And then she has to go around to the back

1358
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: of the building because she locks herself out and Larry

1359
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: was supposed to leave, but his keys are there and

1360
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,799
Speaker 2: that's where we see our first zombie. I'm saying zombie

1361
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: because I don't know what it is, but it's like

1362
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 2: an undead or half dead person with big old cuts

1363
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 2: in their face who's trying to like kill her. Right,

1364
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 2: she does get away somehow because weirdly, in the middle

1365
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: of the fight, she like throws the keys to the

1366
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 2: motorcycle that Larry drives. At the motorcycle, I'm like, why

1367
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: are you throwing these keys.

1368
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: She's like, I just want you to be closer. You

1369
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: guys should be together.

1370
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 2: You sink case. So then she goes back home, meets

1371
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: up with her sister. She's like, the world this fucking ended.

1372
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: Have you not noticed? And her sister's like, man, and

1373
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 2: she keeps like pouring a bowl of cereal, like maybe

1374
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. And they decide to go to a

1375
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 2: radio station because one it's the eighties and two it's

1376
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 2: still broadcasting, so they're like, there's got to be people

1377
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 2: alive there. No one is there. It's a looped tape.

1378
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: But at least they meet Hector, and Hector is the

1379
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: weirdest person you would ever want to be caught dead

1380
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 2: with at the end of the earth. Hector is a weirdo.

1381
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 2: He pulls a gun on them right away. Then he

1382
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: starts talking like he's just an absolute weirdo. But of course,

1383
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: because he's a last dude on Earth, Regina starts flirting

1384
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: with him, and Samantha's just straight up djaying. She's like,

1385
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be pressing buttons and pulling levers, and

1386
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 2: then she gets a call on the broadcast phone for

1387
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 2: the radio station from some people in the desert. Like

1388
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: when I say she's unbothered, she does not. It's the

1389
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: end of the fucking world. And she does not even

1390
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: care that the phone rang and somebody was like talking

1391
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 2: to her. She's like, I don't know some people in

1392
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: the desert. So Hector in the in the middle of this,

1393
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 2: decides to go to San Diego to make like super

1394
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: sure that his family is dead and say the weirdest

1395
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: lines ever committed to screens. So he's in San Diego,

1396
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: he's at his mom's house. She's dead presumably yeah, and

1397
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: then this kid breaks in and he just starts spouting

1398
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,879
Speaker 2: the lamest lines. He's like, you're luky, I like kids,

1399
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 2: and then the kid like chases him out of a

1400
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: window and he's like, there goes the neighborhood and I'm like, Hector,

1401
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: what is the point of view? Hector?

1402
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean he theoretically is like, you know, the only

1403
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: man left or something.

1404
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1405
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: They keep floating that idea around a lot of this movie,

1406
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: and honestly, I think Robert Beltran, the actor who plays actor,

1407
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: is hot.

1408
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 2: I think he.

1409
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: I This movie weirdly is like this bridge between like

1410
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: Eating Raoul and chopping mall. Like there's so many like

1411
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: shared actors, and like Mary Warnolf's in this movie, you know,

1412
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: and she and Robert Beltran were in Eating Raoul and

1413
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: that's what I saw him for the first time and

1414
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: was like, yo, he's hot. So in this movie, I

1415
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: was like, they're kind of like both the sisters are like,

1416
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: do we think he's hot? Because we might have to

1417
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 1: have babies with him to continue the human race, so

1418
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: let's figure that out.

1419
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 2: You know. It's so wild. But they're like trying to

1420
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: negotiate this, and he's like, I'm going to San Diego,

1421
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 2: be right back, and You're like, okay, they both want

1422
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 2: to repopulate the earth with you, You get that right, Yeah,

1423
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 2: But then so Samantha finds out shit. Samantha has a

1424
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: little rash, but it's you know, She's like, it's probably

1425
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 2: just stress. It's no big deal. And then it's time

1426
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 2: for the mall. So while they're killing time waiting for

1427
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: Hector to come back, they go to the mall and

1428
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: it's an eighties fucking shopping spree and it is like

1429
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: a girls just want to have fun style song, and

1430
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,480
Speaker 2: they're trying on outfits and they're coming down the stairs

1431
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 2: and their fucking coats and their jewels and they're having

1432
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: a goddamn blast. It is the most I think it's

1433
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 2: part of the reason I chose this for a mall

1434
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: movie is because it stood out to me even as

1435
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 2: a kid, as like one of the most memorable mall

1436
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: scenes because what happens next is unhinged. This is an

1437
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 2: unhinged scene, so you figure out they're not alone in

1438
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 2: this mall. There's a guy named Willie who comes on

1439
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: over the speakers, and let me tell you, creeps will

1440
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 2: always survive. Creeps are like roaches. The creeps absolutely survived,

1441
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: and they are kind of like the leaders on the

1442
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: mall now. And what's weird about Willie is though even

1443
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,839
Speaker 2: though he's a total creep, he's wearing like a salon

1444
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 2: smock m so it just kind of takes all the

1445
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 2: teeth out of anything. He says, yeah, and then he

1446
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: like he's kind of pretending to be nuts, like he

1447
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,560
Speaker 2: shoots his own guy and she's like, you're crazy, and

1448
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm not crazy. I just don't give a fuck,

1449
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: Like he's trying too hard to kind of be that

1450
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 2: bad guy. And he's also half zombie. Yeah, that is

1451
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: very clear, inexplicable, never discussed. He's wearing sunglasses the whole

1452
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 2: time and he takes them off and she's like, oh,

1453
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 2: you're one of those and he's like yep, and that's it. Yeah,

1454
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 2: it's very bizarre.

1455
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: I think they're called the stock Boys or the Evil

1456
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: stock Boys or something like that. They're like this group

1457
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: of like punk looking dudes that are in the store.

1458
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: I had to actually do a double take because I

1459
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 1: actually thought that Willie was played by jellabe Offer.

1460
01:23:58,400 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 2: From The Dad Kennedys.

1461
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 1: I was like, Ah, that's him, and then yeah, I guess,

1462
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: I guess it's a different actor. But I was like, Oh,

1463
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: this guy is weird as shit. He definitely looks like

1464
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 1: he's in an eighties punk band. But then he's how

1465
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 1: is he a half zombie? I don't understand how this works?

1466
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: And I literally never explained. And they were apparently inside

1467
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: because they survived the comment, right, but they were inside

1468
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 2: and still got kind of turned a little bit. I

1469
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 2: wish somebody took a moment and to just say, hey,

1470
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 2: guess what, we need to explain this at some point

1471
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: in this movie.

1472
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: Listen, We've talked about this because you know a lot.

1473
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: You were famously very into science fiction and have you know,

1474
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: you understand the rules of science fiction and I always

1475
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 1: have a lot of questions for you. So in this movie,

1476
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: there are like no rules.

1477
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 2: To any of this shit.

1478
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, so as a I mean, in

1479
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: your world, is.

1480
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: This like unforgivable? You like you have to give something right,

1481
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 2: absolutely unforgivable. Because now I'm focused on what the fuck

1482
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: is happening to make people turn? Yeah? And is this

1483
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,959
Speaker 2: gonna come back at some point in the story?

1484
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:04,719
Speaker 1: Right?

1485
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 2: And it never? Is? It kind of? I mean it

1486
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 2: kind of is at the end. And trust me, I

1487
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: am gonna spoil this movie because it is bad. It

1488
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 2: is a bad movie. So they're in this fucking mall

1489
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 2: and then the scientists are like yeah, I guess we'll

1490
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: save them. And they're like, where would two girls go

1491
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: who have nothing to do? And they decide, like they

1492
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: figure out that they're at the mall and they go

1493
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 2: in and save them, and it's a whole fucking thing.

1494
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 2: And then they they split the girls up. They take

1495
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: Regina away with them on this helicopter and they leave

1496
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 2: Sam at the mall with one of the scientists and

1497
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: they're gonna experiment on Regina and try to kill Sam,

1498
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: essentially because Sam has been exposed to the comment again,

1499
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 2: never explained what does it mean to be exposed? What

1500
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: does it mean like you have a rash and then

1501
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: what is this? How you progress to zombie style? Never explain. So,

1502
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 2: but don't worry, because Hector comes back just in time

1503
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 2: to watch one of the scientists die by suicide at

1504
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: the radio station. Like he just comes in dressed like

1505
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: Santa Claus and he's like, hey, I'm back. My whole

1506
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 2: family's dead, and she's like, I'm killing myself and he's like,

1507
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: who are you? Where are the people I was here with?

1508
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 2: She's like injecting herself with a fucking liquid and he's like,

1509
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: I would like so many answers please, Yeah, are you

1510
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: a zombie? Who knows what's going on? I just showed up,

1511
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,799
Speaker 2: I have gifts, It's almost Christmas time? What's new? What's happening,

1512
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: what's popping? And truly, who are you? And then she

1513
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 2: just dies but he finds out that sam was taken.

1514
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 2: He saves her. We don't see it, but he saves her,

1515
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 2: and then they pull off a heist, as you do,

1516
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: with her inside of a trunk they play, They play

1517
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 2: a surprise heist. They save Regina and some kids that

1518
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: are also being experimented on by these scientists in this desert,

1519
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 2: and then in the end they all turn into the

1520
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: fucking Hogan family. This movie makes no sense, and yet

1521
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: I cannot stop thinking about it and watching it every

1522
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: few years. It is the weirdest ending. And then Samantha

1523
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 2: at the end is like, oh god, you guys are

1524
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,560
Speaker 2: like a whole family now, you with your fucking experimented

1525
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 2: on kids, and you got the last guy on Earth,

1526
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: I guess. And then this guy just randomly pulls up

1527
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 2: in a car and is like hey, and she's like,

1528
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 2: oh thank god, and like hops in with him and

1529
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: drives away.

1530
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I Hugh, First of all, we had a really

1531
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: good setup for Regina, right. I was like, she works

1532
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: at a movie theater, she plays video games, she's cool

1533
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: as shit.

1534
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 2: She like has taken self defense classes like her dad

1535
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 2: of you had to use like assault weapons exactly, like, yo,

1536
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 2: this is our queen.

1537
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the movie she like

1538
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: is essentially Sandy Duncan from the Hogan family. Yeah, she's

1539
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: a mom.

1540
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,839
Speaker 2: Is she wearing a doily bib dress, a Doiley sweater

1541
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 2: and she's eighteen. Let's not forget she's eighteen. She puts

1542
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 2: on the uniform so fast, a fucking belted Doiley sweater

1543
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 2: and a long ass Laura ingleskirt and boom, she's a

1544
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 2: mom to these two kids from a lab and the desert.

1545
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 2: It's just it could not be stranger if you tried.

1546
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: So wild. It's so wild, but it's weirdly, it's so

1547
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: much fun to watch, but it is not good.

1548
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: Listen, that moll scene is really iconic because it's just like.

1549
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 2: It is the song.

1550
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,839
Speaker 1: Girls Just Want to Have Fun made famous by Cyndy Lapper,

1551
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: but it's definitely not Sidy Lapper singing. It's somebody else

1552
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: singing it, right.

1553
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: It is a B side it's like a B track

1554
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 2: maybe C track singer. They had no music budget for

1555
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: this movie. They had no budget for this movie, so

1556
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 2: they definitely didn't have a music budget for this movie.

1557
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: This is like someone's ant singing in a garage with

1558
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:08,799
Speaker 2: their fucking cassio.

1559
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 1: Somebody pressed record while their aunt was on Star Search

1560
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: and was like, we're just gonna use this.

1561
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: For the film.

1562
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 1: They but it's like the part where they're like, there's

1563
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: this like really great shot of her putting down her

1564
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 1: like assault weapon next to some pumps some like looks

1565
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: like a pump, feels like a sneaker, And I'm like,

1566
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 1: that is a tablescape if I ever saw one, that's

1567
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 1: for fucking Thanksgiving.

1568
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 2: I need, like, you know.

1569
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: A an automatic style weapon next to some shoes some

1570
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 1: ladies footwear.

1571
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely unreal, Absolutely unreal. Yeah, it is a sh and

1572
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 2: she has at one point one of those. I don't

1573
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 2: think ever wore one. But I always associate these like

1574
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: sparkly berets with Ricky Lee Jones. Oh yeah, because like

1575
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 2: her bangs are over the beret, like it's only on

1576
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 2: the back half of her head. It's like a yamaca

1577
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,560
Speaker 2: beret and it's super sparkly, and she's wearing one of

1578
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: those like suit jackets that's also a skirt, Like it's

1579
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 2: just short enough to be it's long enough to be

1580
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,440
Speaker 2: a skirt, but too short to be a dressed.

1581
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: She looks like Rebby Jackson in the Centipede videock.

1582
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 2: Ah, not Rebby Jackson. It's twenty twenty two. She fuckets

1583
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 2: did it.

1584
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: They're like all they all look like they're about to

1585
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: go on the town, all kinds of like, yeah, bejeweled,

1586
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 1: you know, furs and like fancy berets and shit.

1587
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 2: I'm like, none of this. All these outfits are not

1588
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 2: conducive to.

1589
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 1: Nuclear holocaust or of the apocalypse or whatever the fuck

1590
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:11,480
Speaker 1: is going on. Y'all are just running around doing career opportunities.

1591
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 2: In these furs. You need to get in one of

1592
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 2: those scientists jumpsuits and leave this day to night barbie

1593
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: shit behind. There's no room for glitter in the apocalypse.

1594
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 2: Get yourself in a fucking tactical uniform. There's nothing but

1595
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 2: dust around you. The sky is blood ran through the

1596
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 2: whole movie. Yeah, Like, ma'am, I know you're eighteen and

1597
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 2: like the sixteen I'm guessing, but again, it's the eighties,

1598
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 2: so every teenager looked like they were forty, like her

1599
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 2: younger sister looked older than her somehow, I don't know,

1600
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 2: but like, come on, get in some get yourself down

1601
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 2: to the husky boy section of that fucking nor Stroms

1602
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 2: or whatever the hell you were that sears. You need

1603
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 2: a husky pair of dungerreaths, not even jeans. We're not

1604
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 2: talking Jordash, We're not talking designer. You need a hunger

1605
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 2: ree you know, working denim that can withstand this dust.

1606
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: You need the velcro romper stomper of pants. You need

1607
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 1: sinking that is tactical and sensible.

1608
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: Get for this. Yeah, exactly got you got to do?

1609
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, okay, let's have a tiny bit

1610
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: of fun to this off brand version of girls.

1611
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 2: Just wanna have fun, But like.

1612
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: You got a fucking world out there that you don't

1613
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: even know what the fuck is going on.

1614
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would not I would personally not

1615
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 2: be playing dress up. I'd be freaking the fuck out.

1616
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,879
Speaker 2: I'd be thinking, first and foremost, is our water tainted?

1617
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 2: Where's that water supply? Because there's red dust bodies everywhere?

1618
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:50,719
Speaker 2: The fuck are we gonna drink? What did you get

1619
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 2: what are we gonna drink? What are we gonna eat?

1620
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:55,799
Speaker 2: Do we have to cover ourselves up from this stuff

1621
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 2: that's in the fucking air? Is that why Sam has

1622
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: a rash? Again? It's never explained. How do you get

1623
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 2: exposed it? I mean, there were so many steps before

1624
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 2: shopping spree. Yeah, they need a commando style bust into

1625
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 2: an army Navy store shopping spree. Oh.

1626
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 1: I was literally waiting for that, Like I was like,

1627
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: I know, I hadn't seen this movie in forever. I

1628
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: felt like there was definitely like a mall madness situation,

1629
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 1: but I didn't realize it was the opposite. I thought

1630
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 1: it was gonna be like, Oh, they're gonna go and

1631
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 1: get like weapons and stuff. I was like, oh, yeah,

1632
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 1: I forgot that they have this like opulence this first section,

1633
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:35,919
Speaker 1: this Tommy Gunn with the shoes or whatever, and I'm like, wow,

1634
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 1: was I off the mark? I misremembered this film completely.

1635
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 2: So they have to have one last gasp where they're like,

1636
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 2: we're never gonna have fun again, so we may as well.

1637
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 2: They didn't know the Hogan family was coming for them,

1638
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: like we're never gonna have fun. We're eighteen and sixteen

1639
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 2: and our lives are held now, and I guess we're

1640
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 2: just gonna bop around in this mall and then fucking

1641
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 2: Salon selectives. Willie comes out and is like, what's up.

1642
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 2: I'm the least fucking threatening dude of all time. They

1643
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 2: could have just pitched him over the banister, like there

1644
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 2: didn't even need to be a fight. He was just

1645
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,560
Speaker 2: like such a strange I don't know, it was a

1646
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 2: very strange character.

1647
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Regina fought a fucking zombie at the beginning of

1648
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,759
Speaker 1: the film. She can take this guy out, no problem.

1649
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 2: She could take this guy. She could take this guy.

1650
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 2: She doesn't but she could take this guy. So yeah,

1651
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 2: it is. It is just one of those mall scenes

1652
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 2: that I clearly associate with this movie, but also with

1653
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 2: this timeframe of like totally it is an Aquinet scrunchy

1654
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 2: sock time. Yeah, and I love it. It's so fun and

1655
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 2: I truly The last time I watched this movie was

1656
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 2: a few years ago with my friend Amelia, who had

1657
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 2: never seen it before, and I was like, it is

1658
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 2: not good, it is fun. We're gonna watch it. We

1659
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 2: got we got some wine and some pizza and we

1660
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 2: watched the night of the comment, and she is also

1661
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 2: a television writer and a writer in general. And as

1662
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 2: soon as it was over, we both to each other

1663
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 2: and we're like, who has the rights to this? We

1664
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 2: got to remake this? Yeah you should. If I was

1665
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 2: ever going to remake anything, it would be this, because

1666
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 2: I would just just to explain the fucking story, yeah, bully,

1667
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 2: and give it like a new mall scene. What would

1668
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 2: a new mall scene be?

1669
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't even like, yeah, I mean it

1670
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: would it would. It would be what Instagram stores.

1671
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 2: Sponsored ads like Etsy. Who knows? But somebody does, somebody

1672
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 2: owns the rights to it. We couldn't get it.

1673
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: Wow, that's fascinating. Yeah, such an iconic mall scene. But

1674
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 1: a real fun movie. I mean a lot of loose ends,

1675
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: of course, but you know, it is so such a

1676
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: vibe that like eighties la vibe. I mean, it kind

1677
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,560
Speaker 1: of shares that in common with Miracle Mile, which I

1678
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: think is so cool that you actually brought this movie

1679
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:58,480
Speaker 1: up during that episode.

1680
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like, yeah, I mean both.

1681
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: I can't believe both these movies. This wasn't planned, by

1682
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: the way. When we came to the episode, we were like,

1683
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 1: what are what is something we want to talk about.

1684
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: And then they just happened to be both shot at

1685
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: the same mall within like a year of each other.

1686
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 1: However they were, the movies were released within a year

1687
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:24,600
Speaker 1: of each other. I'm like, well, here we go, primetime mall. Yeah,

1688
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 1: holy shit.

1689
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 2: Oh that was fun, fun, fucking fun. It is again

1690
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 2: just the wild just the Wild Ride. Yeah.

1691
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I if you have stories of the mall

1692
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: or anything, any feedback, you can email us at I

1693
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 1: Saw What You Did pod at gmail dot com.

1694
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 2: And you can also find us on our socials at

1695
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 2: I Saw pot on Instagram and Twitter, and you know what,

1696
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 2: why you're at it? Just why don't you leave us

1697
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 2: a five star review? Why don't you leave us? We've

1698
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 2: had a lot of people leaving Saint Almos Fire reviews,

1699
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 2: which I love. I love it too, I absolutely love it.

1700
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 2: But let's give you knows something else to do, because

1701
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 2: a lot of people tell us they want to leave reviews,

1702
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 2: but they don't feel like they can write leave us

1703
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 2: a five star and just comment a transitional shoe just

1704
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 2: like ten of you do that to make us laugh.

1705
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 2: You can still keep doing sant Almost.

1706
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: Fire, but I will I will never not laugh at

1707
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: sant almos fire reviews that will always be with me.

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Speaker 2: But give us a transitional shoe and an emoji, it

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01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 2: will make me laugh so hard. You know, if you know,

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Speaker 2: you know? And look, we also have some movies for

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01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 2: you next week. Oh yeah, Millie, do you want to

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Speaker 2: tell them what the movies are? Yeah? I sure will.

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01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,759
Speaker 1: If you don't get this theme, you're fucked.

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01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 2: Basically question your whole life. If you don't get this, you.

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01:37:56,640 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: Are absolutely fucked. No. The movies for next week are

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Speaker 1: The Omen from nineteen seventy six and Pet Cemetery from

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01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: Uh uh, cannot wait to watch both of those with

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Speaker 2: my grandma.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're probably in her Hall of fame.

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Speaker 1: Those are probably all timers.

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Speaker 2: Huh, both iconic to her. Yeah, iconic for different reasons

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Speaker 2: and for me also for different reasons. But I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: This was a blast. Next week is going to be

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Speaker 2: a blast. We might be back on our daytime caffeination

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Speaker 2: recording routine. Oh I think so, I think so, so.

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Speaker 2: Get ready, folks, listen.

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Speaker 1: Danielle is always a fucking pleasure to this podcast with you.

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01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 1: Tom Selleck is the new Wolford Brimley and I don't care.

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Speaker 2: What anybody says. It's it's just the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Bye.

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Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production, produced and mixed

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Speaker 2: by Casey O'Brien and our theme song is by Tom Bryfogel.

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Speaker 2: Artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstart Caring,

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Speaker 2: Tile Gareth and Daniel Kramer. You can follow us on

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Speaker 2: Instagram and Twitter at I Saw pod, and you can

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Speaker 2: email us at I Saw What You Did Pod at

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Speaker 2: gmail