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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football present of my STA Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: August Felt, Jamie Earn on Mansie So, DeMarco far a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion defensive tackle by the way, for the Rams,

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Speaker 2: and Kyle Brant in New York. Kyle, I kind of

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Speaker 2: understand even though you're three thousand miles away, what it

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Speaker 2: must be like to go up against Mansi in a

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Speaker 2: game competition?

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Speaker 3: Was this hour?

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Speaker 2: We got something and he's actively just throwing darts my

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Speaker 2: way because we're going head to head today. You and

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Speaker 2: DeMarco got something going on BMFB.

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Speaker 3: What else we have this hour?

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Speaker 4: Show him no mercy for you.

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Speaker 1: Right after it, right for the throat, because he's going

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Speaker 1: to do the same to you. Listen, We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about Travis Hunter. We're gonna talk about rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what a wonderful time it

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Speaker 1: is to be in the second week of August in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five with the NFL season coming, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about it right now.

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Speaker 5: Let's go, Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by SUF That's right, GMFB, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Jamie Manti, Kyle DeMarco. I mentioned last night in Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: I went to Netflix premiere of I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: say it like that, but I.

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Speaker 3: Had to as an obligation when you go to something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: A Netflix premiere for the Cowboys documentary that's coming out

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Speaker 2: The Gambler, America's team, The Gambler and His Cowboys. And

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Speaker 2: I saw Jackie Slater DeMarco, who you played alongside and

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Speaker 2: has quite fond memories of that era. But I assume

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Speaker 2: Rams Cowboys just the history of what.

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Speaker 4: Did you think of Jackie when you met him?

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Speaker 2: Just a wonderful, jolly human that I would be terrified

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Speaker 5: A wonderful, jolly human I never met. I met the

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Speaker 5: other guy. Well, then wants to tear your face off.

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Speaker 5: No mentor that's awesome. Yes, good to see Jackie everywhere.

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Speaker 5: But yes, that was my welcome to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fantastic. There were a ton of people there.

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Speaker 2: Skip Bayless was there. I did an awkward wave as

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Speaker 2: if I think he watches GMFB.

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Speaker 3: He did not wave back, Kyle. So it's all right.

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Speaker 1: We're running on I did skip Bayless not wave back

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Speaker 1: at what's going on with that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: He had sunglasses on you. I don't know, Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, guess what, Jamie, you just got aggregated. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: go get them guys, Skip Bayless stiffs Jamie RDA on

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Speaker 1: the red coffee, wait about it?

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Speaker 4: On awful announcing. There you go.

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Speaker 3: No, not what I asked.

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Speaker 1: I saw Nick right at the gym yesterday. He tried

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Speaker 1: to work in on my set. I said no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not finished yet.

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Speaker 4: Get out of here.

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Speaker 3: There you go, guys, thank you, thanks for deluding the pool.

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Speaker 2: There all right, let's move on three and out, please,

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Speaker 2: for the love of God. On GMFB first down, Steeler

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Speaker 2: star Cam Hayward has been sitting out of practice because

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Speaker 2: he wants a new contract.

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Speaker 3: He's tied as.

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Speaker 2: The twenty second highest paid interior defensive lineman. That's so specific,

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Speaker 6: I've had to really justify playing the umber I'm playing.

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Speaker 6: You know, I understand I signed a contract last year

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Speaker 2: Elsewhere in that interview, Kim Hayward would not say no

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Speaker 3: So, gentlemen at the.

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Speaker 2: Table, what our our collective thoughts on Kim Hayward holding

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tough, good guy, good player, friend of the show.

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Speaker 7: You try.

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Speaker 1: It's out of respect for Cam to be like, where

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Speaker 1: I'm not a sports agent, but if you wanted the

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Speaker 4: Am I following the story right? Well?

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Speaker 1: The Steelers are probably like, well, yeah, we were thrilled,

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Speaker 1: They just paid TJ. Watt all this money they're trying

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Speaker 1: I'm very much in my feelings about this because I

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Speaker 1: I don't like the timing. It's kind of like Cam

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Speaker 4: But it's hard to imagine.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers being like, well, you're right, let's renegotiate again

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: I hate holdouts, I really do.

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Speaker 5: I hate when guys like Kim Hayward have to have

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Speaker 5: He's top ten, top five, and depending on who you have,

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Speaker 5: But I will say this. Holdouts I think are destructive.

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Speaker 5: They're distracting. But this is the best of all possible worlds.

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Speaker 5: I understand what you're doing. It's business, but you are

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Speaker 5: But unfortunately with Dallas and Michael Parsons and now with

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Speaker 4: They want new deals.

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Speaker 5: And I'm with you, Kyle, I wish you could put

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Speaker 5: So it's one of those weird things. Does he deserve

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Speaker 8: Well, guys, I think we learned somebody in this offseason,

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Speaker 4: We're learning it from Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 8: Guys, get it on paper, Get it on paper. The

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Speaker 8: Okay, So I love Cam Hayward and I said this

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Speaker 7: Of the Steelers.

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Speaker 8: I mentioned that as Cam Hayward and you know this

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Speaker 4: Have a TJ.

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Speaker 8: Watt Alex high Smith production if you don't have somebody

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Speaker 8: You don't have those numbers if you don't have the

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Speaker 8: all of those things. So I think it's unfortunate. I

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Speaker 4: I didn't know twenty second.

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Speaker 3: I know you that is insane.

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Speaker 2: Mant I just said one of these where like the

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Speaker 4: Second, you bought it that that's it. That's just just

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Speaker 8: But again, guys, get get it all on paper, Okay,

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Speaker 8: Like we can't just have verbals anymore.

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Speaker 4: It's get it all on paper.

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Speaker 8: And I think that if you look on paper, Cam

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Speaker 2: Get it all on paper, so you don't have to

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Speaker 2: get it off your chest in the public demeanor instead.

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Speaker 2: Second down Bears offensive coordinator Declan Doyle honestly may be

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Speaker 2: right now, Declan Doyle knows what his second year quarterback

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Speaker 9: I think that reps, reps, reps, reps, like we have

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Speaker 9: You have to really go through that process.

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Speaker 2: Declan Doyle, Kyle, I'm sure you can speak to this

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Speaker 2: as a Bears fan. Just a crazy rise in the

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Speaker 3: Now he is an offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Speaking about how to get Caleb Williams to a place

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Speaker 2: where he is elite, where he's fulfilling the prophecy that

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Speaker 2: many Bears fans have put forth. Kyle, first of all,

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on Declan Doyle as a human, but also

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams needs the reps. But he did play against

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Does this make you hesitant about how the

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Speaker 1: Well, Declan Doyle sounds like a long stick MIDI lax

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Speaker 1: bro and I completely salute.

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Speaker 4: I like the name.

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Speaker 1: I like the smart how smart he is. He's young,

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Speaker 1: he's up in coming like Ben Johnson, and Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: is going to run the show on offense.

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Speaker 4: We know that that's why.

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Speaker 10: They got hired.

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Speaker 1: But Declan Doyle is a guy behind him who is

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Speaker 1: maybe like a coach in waiting and bigger things coming.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully its first Caleb Plaane Caleb Plaine in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: There's a cool story that a lot of Bears fans

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Speaker 1: know about then everybody does. So they have the joint

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Speaker 4: That's the kind of reps he's getting.

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Speaker 1: He's getting practice reps, he's getting on the field reps.

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Speaker 4: He's getting a ton of reps.

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Speaker 1: My bottom line with this to any Bears, Fanny, anybody

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Speaker 1: For years, maybe even decades, there's been whining new about

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Speaker 4: So you got the.

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Speaker 4: You got him.

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Speaker 1: Now let his due, Let him do his mad genius thing.

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Speaker 1: And if that includes keeping Caleb on the sideline, fine.

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Speaker 1: In the three years he spent with Jared Goff in

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Speaker 1: Trust to Ben Johnson, you wanted him, you got him. Now,

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Speaker 5: Kyle, I was thinking Bond villain, Declan Doyle, Bond villain.

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Speaker 5: But I was skeptical. I mean, look, Matta, you played

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Speaker 4: It's been tough for a long time.

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Speaker 5: But I would say anybody who can come closest to

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Speaker 4: Going to work.

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Speaker 5: But throwing the ball around the yard in Chicago when

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Speaker 4: I just haven't seen it done yet.

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Speaker 5: But if anybody can't get this guy to his potential,

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Speaker 5: it would be Ben Johnson. Now Decklan Doyle, I'll work on,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm struggling a little bit, Guys.

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Speaker 1: You now, you you say what you on you thank

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Speaker 2: I think Kyle, when Kyle goes on things like that,

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Speaker 8: Able to go yeah yeah, and then I got to

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Speaker 8: just be ready to get back and put my gloves

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Speaker 4: Aren't coming on.

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Speaker 8: KB said that they ran seventy plays before the game,

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Speaker 8: and you know this to Markle, I don't you could

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Speaker 8: run semni plays all you want to. Seven game plays

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Speaker 8: are way more productive than seventy or seven hundred plays

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Speaker 8: I don't know if they had the defense out there

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Speaker 8: So I am on full board with Declan Doyle.

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Speaker 4: Reps reps, reps, reps.

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Speaker 8: I just you had a great opportunity to get those

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Speaker 8: it's just it's different I've been there. We've had practices

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Speaker 4: When you suit up for the game.

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Speaker 8: It's just a totally different it's a totally different environment.

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Speaker 8: So I just thought and I would hope, I hope

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Speaker 2: You just gave a really good insight into what you

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Speaker 2: like what the game tastes like, what it tastes like,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing out there, Manta.

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Speaker 4: Jam just on the other ends, SMEs like fear. That's

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Speaker 2: Third, the Patriots were one of ten teams to vote

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Speaker 2: were on that list as well. Yesterday, offensive coordinator Josh

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Speaker 2: McDaniels was asked if he may consider running the toush

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Speaker 2: push now that it did not get banned. It is

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Speaker 11: I've never done it, doesn't mean that I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 11: have been for a few years now. I don't dislike

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Speaker 2: I'm happy that the visor has moved, has lived on

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Speaker 3: The Toush push. How does that make you feel?

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Speaker 4: DeMarco, it's weird.

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Speaker 5: You have to be touchy when talking about the Toush push,

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Speaker 5: because if you say you wanted outlawed, that means you're

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Speaker 5: don't think the game is being officiated properly. I would

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Speaker 5: just say this, just make sure it is officiated and

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Speaker 5: you're doing it right.

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Speaker 4: You can't assist a guy.

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Speaker 5: You can't put two hands on a guy's back and

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Speaker 4: Just make sure you get that part right.

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Speaker 5: But other than that, it's just a short yardage play.

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Speaker 5: It's just trying to pick up the first down. It's

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Speaker 5: nothing we haven't gone through in our lives at some point.

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Speaker 5: So the Eagles made it famous, they gave it a name,

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Speaker 5: and now it's caused celeb But look, I think every

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Speaker 5: If you voted against it, it looks like you're a coward,

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Speaker 5: you're afraid of it. If you voted in favor of it,

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Speaker 5: just like the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: So it's just one of those weird things.

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Speaker 7: I love this.

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Speaker 4: I love this.

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Speaker 8: The only thing I don't like is we're not going

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Speaker 8: I wish that they played each other. Maybe they're playing

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Speaker 8: in the Super Bowl. I don't know, that's the only

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Speaker 8: there was just a battle of the toush push guys.

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Speaker 8: It's like watching WWE and the opponent uses his finishing

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Speaker 8: use the.

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Speaker 4: Rock bottom on the.

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Speaker 8: Rock like I still can't stag with Chris Jericho for that,

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Speaker 8: Like you broke my heart when you did the rock

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Speaker 8: bottom on the rock, Like that's what I wish. It

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Speaker 8: I wish we would have been able to see it

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Speaker 1: Just another short yardage play. This is the touch push,

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Speaker 1: just another short yardage play. It's like saying Sidney Sweety

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Speaker 4: Guys, guys, it's not even close.

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Speaker 1: This thing has a name and almost started World War

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Speaker 1: Three between the NFL. It survived, it lived its rock

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Speaker 1: and roll. And I'll tell you what man side. They

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Speaker 1: can't use it against Philly, but they could use it

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Speaker 1: And I like the Patriots thinking about doing it for

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Speaker 1: a bunch of different reasons. First of all, it will work.

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Speaker 1: just because they do it well. So all's fair now, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's there. If you have a big, strong quarterback and

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Speaker 1: This may be the last year.

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Speaker 4: For the push Push.

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Speaker 1: I want all the teams to do it, and the

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Kyle, it reminds me of twenty fifteen. I

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Speaker 2: and then he just kept beating everybody. So it's like,

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Speaker 3: Success with it, so be careful what you wish for.

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Speaker 2: That's the category that you're in when it comes to

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Speaker 2: Okay, we got two topics and the coin never just

439
00:18:13,548 --> 00:18:16,148
Speaker 2: lands on its side. Kyle DeMarco, Manta, you have to

440
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Speaker 2: pick the side. I'm gonna tee up two topic I'm

441
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Speaker 2: gonna take a topic and two options.

442
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Speaker 3: There's no wish you watch you here.

443
00:18:21,668 --> 00:18:24,028
Speaker 2: You pick an option, you stand by it, you make

444
00:18:24,068 --> 00:18:26,948
Speaker 2: your case, and then your opponent has to defend the

445
00:18:26,988 --> 00:18:28,068
Speaker 2: other side of the coin.

446
00:18:28,268 --> 00:18:29,028
Speaker 3: Boy, no matter what.

447
00:18:29,188 --> 00:18:32,428
Speaker 2: Okay, Kyle and DeMarco, you will be teed up twice

448
00:18:32,548 --> 00:18:35,268
Speaker 2: in Mantin and I going.

449
00:18:35,108 --> 00:18:35,748
Speaker 3: Up against each other.

450
00:18:35,908 --> 00:18:37,988
Speaker 2: Right, all right, Kyle and DeMarco, you're first. Who do

451
00:18:38,028 --> 00:18:40,748
Speaker 2: you want to see start sooner in the regular season?

452
00:18:41,148 --> 00:18:44,988
Speaker 2: Who do you see starts sooner? Jackson Dart or Shadur Sanders.

453
00:18:45,268 --> 00:18:47,148
Speaker 2: The coin will flip. They will tell us who gets

454
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Speaker 2: to go first and pick their topic. They pick their

455
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Speaker 2: answer and then defend the stands.

456
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Speaker 3: Okay, KB, who do yeah?

457
00:18:53,028 --> 00:18:53,468
Speaker 4: Pick KB?

458
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Speaker 1: All right, give me my thirty seconds. I just wish

459
00:18:57,788 --> 00:19:00,388
Speaker 1: you gave me a question that was actually challenging. The

460
00:19:00,468 --> 00:19:03,988
Speaker 1: answer here is obviously Jackson Dart. We should just call

461
00:19:04,108 --> 00:19:07,188
Speaker 1: him Jackson Start at this point, like that's his new nickname.

462
00:19:07,388 --> 00:19:08,828
Speaker 4: This is a first round pick.

463
00:19:09,028 --> 00:19:11,468
Speaker 1: We're talking about it first versus a fifth due respect,

464
00:19:11,548 --> 00:19:13,628
Speaker 1: and its chadeur against the Panthers backups.

465
00:19:13,828 --> 00:19:14,828
Speaker 4: It's Jackson Dark.

466
00:19:14,988 --> 00:19:18,548
Speaker 1: There are exactly zero New York Giants fans who are

467
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Speaker 1: doing backflips about Russell Wilson's starting this season.

468
00:19:21,228 --> 00:19:21,988
Speaker 4: It's not his fault.

469
00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:23,988
Speaker 1: He's on his fourth team in five years or something

470
00:19:24,028 --> 00:19:26,228
Speaker 1: crazy like that. It is a first round pick and

471
00:19:26,268 --> 00:19:28,308
Speaker 1: a coach you need to win. Now, let's start the future.

472
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Speaker 1: It's Jackson's start.

473
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Speaker 4: I would say, hold the phone.

474
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Speaker 5: I think Russell Wilson has earned the right to at

475
00:19:34,828 --> 00:19:37,068
Speaker 5: least start in New York at least once, ten time

476
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Speaker 5: Pro bowler.

477
00:19:37,668 --> 00:19:38,948
Speaker 4: He's a Super Bowl Hi know.

478
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Speaker 3: You got a defense.

479
00:19:39,868 --> 00:19:40,668
Speaker 4: Now I'm getting there.

480
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Speaker 5: So I would keep second day a bench in favor

481
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Speaker 5: of Russell Wilson. I would start Shador Sanders because of

482
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Speaker 5: the opposite of Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco is a guy

483
00:19:51,028 --> 00:19:53,868
Speaker 5: that's forty. He's he's on the back nine. To use

484
00:19:53,908 --> 00:19:56,068
Speaker 5: your words earlier in the show, you might as well

485
00:19:56,068 --> 00:19:58,148
Speaker 5: get the future startered now. And I think the best

486
00:19:58,188 --> 00:20:00,988
Speaker 5: quarterback on that roster right now is Shador Sanders, So

487
00:20:01,028 --> 00:20:04,228
Speaker 5: you might as well get it started with him.

488
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Speaker 2: Doing DeMarco's apport, eats time on the previous topic before

489
00:20:08,948 --> 00:20:11,588
Speaker 2: he answers his own. Come on, Jamie, he knows what

490
00:20:11,628 --> 00:20:12,068
Speaker 2: he's doing.

491
00:20:12,268 --> 00:20:13,948
Speaker 4: Jame Lockety, that's me and you. It's our turn.

492
00:20:14,028 --> 00:20:15,308
Speaker 3: All right, Wow, here we go.

493
00:20:15,868 --> 00:20:17,948
Speaker 2: This man can taste football. Now, Manson and I are

494
00:20:17,988 --> 00:20:20,468
Speaker 2: gonna go. Who's a more important character in the NFC North?

495
00:20:20,588 --> 00:20:24,268
Speaker 2: More important character? Is it JJ McCarthy or is it

496
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams? Flip the coin, show one of our faces.

497
00:20:28,868 --> 00:20:30,068
Speaker 2: We need to get you a new headshot?

498
00:20:30,148 --> 00:20:30,708
Speaker 4: Yes please?

499
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Speaker 2: Okay, Jam, I'm gonna play the Kyle Brank game. I'm

500
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Speaker 2: gonna say Caleb Williams is.

501
00:20:39,148 --> 00:20:41,628
Speaker 3: More important in the NFC North for this?

502
00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:41,988
Speaker 7: Okay?

503
00:20:41,988 --> 00:20:42,188
Speaker 4: Good?

504
00:20:42,188 --> 00:20:43,268
Speaker 3: Start the clock thirty second?

505
00:20:44,108 --> 00:20:45,948
Speaker 2: Have you heard that there is a record that has

506
00:20:45,988 --> 00:20:50,828
Speaker 2: never been broken in Chicago? And how desperately desperation breeds

507
00:20:51,068 --> 00:20:53,908
Speaker 2: a really dangerous type of character, which is you will

508
00:20:53,948 --> 00:20:56,628
Speaker 2: do anything to produce this, which is.

509
00:20:56,548 --> 00:20:57,868
Speaker 3: The four thousand yard passer.

510
00:20:58,188 --> 00:21:01,308
Speaker 2: I constantly am asking Bears fans, would you seriously rather

511
00:21:01,348 --> 00:21:03,548
Speaker 2: have a four thousand yard pastor and settle for six

512
00:21:03,588 --> 00:21:05,788
Speaker 2: wins or seven wins just to say you have a guy.

513
00:21:05,988 --> 00:21:08,988
Speaker 2: There's so much pressure on Caleb Williams. There are some

514
00:21:08,988 --> 00:21:11,388
Speaker 2: people that say yes to that, Kyle, which is amazing

515
00:21:11,428 --> 00:21:13,828
Speaker 2: to me. Caleb Williams and the pressure and the and

516
00:21:13,948 --> 00:21:16,348
Speaker 2: the marquee of the Bears expectations this season.

517
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Speaker 3: He is a much more important character. Nancy North.

518
00:21:18,388 --> 00:21:21,028
Speaker 8: Okay, he was trying to get extra credit on that one.

519
00:21:21,228 --> 00:21:23,428
Speaker 8: I'll give you some extra credit. Start my clock. Okay,

520
00:21:23,548 --> 00:21:25,148
Speaker 8: you've got extra talent.

521
00:21:25,068 --> 00:21:26,028
Speaker 4: Over there in Minnesota.

522
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Speaker 8: Okay, you have Justin Jefferson, you got an extra receiver

523
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Speaker 8: and Jordan Addison. Now you're not gonna be there for

524
00:21:31,028 --> 00:21:33,868
Speaker 8: three weeks, but you got Aaron Jones, you got TJ. Howkinson,

525
00:21:33,908 --> 00:21:36,068
Speaker 8: and you got that Brian Flores defense. That's one of

526
00:21:36,068 --> 00:21:40,228
Speaker 8: the best defenses at applying fresher. The only different factor

527
00:21:40,508 --> 00:21:44,188
Speaker 8: this year to last year is the quarterback. Kevin O'Connell

528
00:21:44,588 --> 00:21:48,388
Speaker 8: is a Sean McVay Coaching Tree recipient or whatever you

529
00:21:48,388 --> 00:21:48,868
Speaker 8: want to talk.

530
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Speaker 4: That's that's him. Pair all of those guys up. That's

531
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Speaker 4: why JJ McCarthy is the most important guy in NFC. North. Okay, Jane,

532
00:21:57,188 --> 00:21:58,028
Speaker 4: I thought you was gonna go.

533
00:21:58,788 --> 00:21:59,788
Speaker 3: That's the whole point.

534
00:21:59,908 --> 00:22:01,068
Speaker 4: I want to go first.

535
00:22:01,108 --> 00:22:03,268
Speaker 3: No, exactly, that's baby.

536
00:22:03,508 --> 00:22:04,028
Speaker 4: That's right.

537
00:22:05,068 --> 00:22:07,068
Speaker 2: Kyle, you've taught me well. Kyle and DeMarco, you're up next.

538
00:22:07,108 --> 00:22:09,148
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter played both sides of the ball.

539
00:22:09,188 --> 00:22:12,228
Speaker 3: Have you heard? But should he continue to play on

540
00:22:12,308 --> 00:22:15,868
Speaker 3: both sides, or should he stick to one and excel

541
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Speaker 3: at it. Flip the coin.

542
00:22:18,188 --> 00:22:20,988
Speaker 2: Take your stance, please, I hope it's to Marco first,

543
00:22:21,828 --> 00:22:22,428
Speaker 2: flip it on.

544
00:22:22,588 --> 00:22:23,908
Speaker 3: Okay, Kyle, go ahead.

545
00:22:24,588 --> 00:22:29,708
Speaker 1: NA, two coin tosses in a row, two wins in

546
00:22:29,748 --> 00:22:30,948
Speaker 1: a row, start the clock.

547
00:22:31,348 --> 00:22:32,028
Speaker 7: Of course, he.

548
00:22:32,028 --> 00:22:35,268
Speaker 1: Should play both sides of the ball. It's just like

549
00:22:35,348 --> 00:22:37,908
Speaker 1: all the parents are saying in youth sports. Right now, DeMarco,

550
00:22:38,148 --> 00:22:41,588
Speaker 1: you got to avoid specialization. You gotta spread yourself out

551
00:22:41,588 --> 00:22:45,308
Speaker 1: and do different things. Corner, wide receiver. I want him

552
00:22:45,348 --> 00:22:48,388
Speaker 1: to do even more. I want Travis Hunter to return kickoffs.

553
00:22:48,548 --> 00:22:51,228
Speaker 1: I want him to kick kickoffs. All of the things

554
00:22:51,268 --> 00:22:53,228
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars did to get him. You didn't do

555
00:22:53,268 --> 00:22:54,748
Speaker 1: it if you're just one side of the ball. And

556
00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:56,828
Speaker 1: you might say, have him play corner. They can draft

557
00:22:56,828 --> 00:22:58,468
Speaker 1: the wide receiver in the first round next year.

558
00:22:58,588 --> 00:22:59,268
Speaker 7: No they can't.

559
00:22:59,508 --> 00:23:01,628
Speaker 1: They spent that pick and they spent this. So he

560
00:23:01,628 --> 00:23:05,188
Speaker 1: plays both sides of the ball. Double threats. That's my man,

561
00:23:05,268 --> 00:23:06,588
Speaker 1: both sides. Go ahead, No, herd.

562
00:23:06,548 --> 00:23:08,868
Speaker 4: Start the club? Can he? Sure? Should?

563
00:23:08,908 --> 00:23:09,388
Speaker 10: He know?

564
00:23:09,588 --> 00:23:12,108
Speaker 5: And I'll present this. That's a lot of meetings, Kyle.

565
00:23:12,308 --> 00:23:15,268
Speaker 5: You got to go through offense, defense, aspect teams. From

566
00:23:15,308 --> 00:23:17,868
Speaker 5: the time he walks in, You've got three people in

567
00:23:17,908 --> 00:23:21,908
Speaker 5: your ear. And consider this, like Dion and Colorado, if

568
00:23:21,908 --> 00:23:24,748
Speaker 5: he's doing everything for entire games, you're gonna have to

569
00:23:24,748 --> 00:23:26,988
Speaker 5: give him times up time off. How do you think

570
00:23:26,988 --> 00:23:29,428
Speaker 5: that plays in the locker room, especially if you're not winning.

571
00:23:29,508 --> 00:23:31,948
Speaker 5: That's tough on Liam Cohen. So I'm sure he can

572
00:23:32,068 --> 00:23:34,148
Speaker 5: do it. What should you do it? I would think

573
00:23:34,188 --> 00:23:34,508
Speaker 5: about it.

574
00:23:35,308 --> 00:23:37,988
Speaker 2: You have an excellent finger point, and like should he

575
00:23:38,108 --> 00:23:40,788
Speaker 2: do it? It really makes you question yourself, all right?

576
00:23:40,828 --> 00:23:44,228
Speaker 3: Flipping out? Last round? You ready, mister? Are you ready

577
00:23:45,228 --> 00:23:47,788
Speaker 3: for this last one? Here are some fun moments from

578
00:23:47,828 --> 00:23:50,628
Speaker 3: the first week of the preseason. Take a look, take

579
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Speaker 3: a listen.

580
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Speaker 7: Hello, come on people, it was a great throw. Whoever

581
00:24:08,388 --> 00:24:14,308
Speaker 7: said that? If you don't really know about that?

582
00:24:14,388 --> 00:24:24,468
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Oh my gosh.

583
00:24:21,908 --> 00:24:22,908
Speaker 4: What bequote? Practice?

584
00:24:23,548 --> 00:24:27,788
Speaker 7: Such a freaking mayor border? Y'all, faith is going to

585
00:24:27,788 --> 00:24:28,228
Speaker 7: determine me?

586
00:24:28,308 --> 00:24:28,588
Speaker 9: He is?

587
00:24:38,628 --> 00:24:39,348
Speaker 3: Okay?

588
00:24:39,908 --> 00:24:43,588
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, Jameis Winston, who would you rather have miked

589
00:24:43,628 --> 00:24:44,628
Speaker 2: up all season long?

590
00:24:49,148 --> 00:24:49,828
Speaker 4: What are we doing?

591
00:24:49,908 --> 00:24:50,828
Speaker 7: This is really.

592
00:24:52,308 --> 00:24:55,108
Speaker 3: Okay, Justin Herbert?

593
00:24:55,948 --> 00:24:58,388
Speaker 2: I need you to be miked up all season long

594
00:24:58,468 --> 00:25:02,348
Speaker 2: because in the magic of television production and editing. Somehow

595
00:25:02,468 --> 00:25:05,108
Speaker 2: we just were able to make you sound as exciting

596
00:25:05,108 --> 00:25:06,868
Speaker 2: and as interesting as Jamis Wiston.

597
00:25:07,028 --> 00:25:08,668
Speaker 3: And that is not a knock on your personality.

598
00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:10,828
Speaker 2: It's the fact that you're kind of sneaky like that

599
00:25:10,908 --> 00:25:12,628
Speaker 2: where you know when you're miked up. And if you

600
00:25:12,708 --> 00:25:14,588
Speaker 2: really went back and listened to that Cliff, all you

601
00:25:14,628 --> 00:25:18,468
Speaker 2: heard Herbert say was hello football, take cover and some

602
00:25:18,548 --> 00:25:21,428
Speaker 2: sound effects like pew pew. I actually need to hear

603
00:25:21,508 --> 00:25:24,628
Speaker 2: him say more things. I need to discover Justin Herbert's

604
00:25:24,628 --> 00:25:26,628
Speaker 2: personality and I need it to be in a regular

605
00:25:26,668 --> 00:25:28,348
Speaker 2: season long miked up scenario.

606
00:25:28,428 --> 00:25:30,388
Speaker 3: Manti wow wow wow.

607
00:25:30,668 --> 00:25:31,068
Speaker 4: Okay.

608
00:25:31,468 --> 00:25:34,988
Speaker 8: Obviously, Jameis Winston is one of the most entertaining figures

609
00:25:35,108 --> 00:25:38,508
Speaker 8: besides a football player. When he ever has a mic,

610
00:25:38,828 --> 00:25:39,388
Speaker 8: you need to.

611
00:25:39,348 --> 00:25:39,988
Speaker 4: Be locked in.

612
00:25:40,068 --> 00:25:42,788
Speaker 8: And the reason why he should be miked up besides

613
00:25:42,908 --> 00:25:45,228
Speaker 8: Justin Herbert is because the only reason why you want

614
00:25:45,228 --> 00:25:47,148
Speaker 8: to listen to Justin Herbert miked up is because you

615
00:25:47,188 --> 00:25:49,788
Speaker 8: wanted to listen to Jim Harball, because Jim Harvall is

616
00:25:49,828 --> 00:25:51,508
Speaker 8: going to be next to him, because Jim Harvall is

617
00:25:51,508 --> 00:25:54,268
Speaker 8: going to say something that's creative that's something that's going

618
00:25:54,348 --> 00:25:55,308
Speaker 8: to be on a tabloid.

619
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Speaker 4: So I want to listen.

620
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Speaker 8: To Jameis Winston because he's going to give me some gospel,

621
00:25:59,628 --> 00:26:01,508
Speaker 8: he's going to give me some energy, he's going to

622
00:26:01,508 --> 00:26:02,668
Speaker 8: give me something to laugh at.

623
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Speaker 4: So I got.

624
00:26:03,268 --> 00:26:07,908
Speaker 5: James, You got one, oh, Jamis all day every day.

625
00:26:08,308 --> 00:26:09,428
Speaker 7: I think man tis got it.

626
00:26:09,508 --> 00:26:12,108
Speaker 1: Jamie, your argument for Justin Herbert wanting to be miked

627
00:26:12,148 --> 00:26:13,748
Speaker 1: up is that the micd up package we just heard

628
00:26:13,788 --> 00:26:16,028
Speaker 1: of him wasn't good and he didn't say anything. That's

629
00:26:16,028 --> 00:26:18,108
Speaker 1: a tough one, you know. It's a tough angle to

630
00:26:18,148 --> 00:26:18,428
Speaker 1: go with.

631
00:26:18,628 --> 00:26:19,068
Speaker 4: I need more.

632
00:26:19,108 --> 00:26:21,508
Speaker 1: I go with jam Jamis as Charles Barkley potential.

633
00:26:21,588 --> 00:26:22,308
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

634
00:26:22,428 --> 00:26:25,428
Speaker 2: I just I would like more options to pick from

635
00:26:25,468 --> 00:26:26,908
Speaker 2: with with Justin Herbert, and I feel like if we

636
00:26:27,028 --> 00:26:28,708
Speaker 2: just add more to the pool, like we'll get there,

637
00:26:28,828 --> 00:26:29,428
Speaker 2: we'll get something.

638
00:26:31,428 --> 00:26:31,628
Speaker 7: Yeah.

639
00:26:31,628 --> 00:26:33,908
Speaker 3: No, he got it. They had to give him a.

640
00:26:33,868 --> 00:26:36,428
Speaker 2: Slow motion effect to just like draw out some of

641
00:26:36,428 --> 00:26:38,148
Speaker 2: the things that he says, like he's smart, he knows

642
00:26:38,188 --> 00:26:42,868
Speaker 2: what he's doing, all right, that was flipping out. I

643
00:26:42,868 --> 00:26:46,348
Speaker 2: think I've decided something. Officially. Wide receiver is my favorite

644
00:26:46,388 --> 00:26:49,708
Speaker 2: position in football. It is past catchers because it goes

645
00:26:49,748 --> 00:26:52,188
Speaker 2: across a ton of groups. It's wide receiver's tight ends,

646
00:26:52,228 --> 00:26:55,748
Speaker 2: occasionally a running back. It's fantastic And in this time

647
00:26:55,788 --> 00:26:58,948
Speaker 2: of year you are fat drafting for your fantasy team,

648
00:26:59,068 --> 00:27:01,628
Speaker 2: you are trying to make sure you know the two deep,

649
00:27:01,668 --> 00:27:02,788
Speaker 2: the three deep, the four deep.

650
00:27:02,828 --> 00:27:04,228
Speaker 3: You want to know your team inside it out. So

651
00:27:04,708 --> 00:27:05,508
Speaker 3: did you catch that?

652
00:27:05,748 --> 00:27:07,748
Speaker 2: Is a segment that I'm going to do throughout preseason

653
00:27:08,108 --> 00:27:10,428
Speaker 2: on guys that not only did they catch that, which

654
00:27:10,428 --> 00:27:12,108
Speaker 2: in the preseason you better be catching it to make

655
00:27:12,108 --> 00:27:14,268
Speaker 2: the team, but also it's their names. It's guys that

656
00:27:14,308 --> 00:27:16,188
Speaker 2: you might not know, so when you hear it on

657
00:27:16,228 --> 00:27:18,308
Speaker 2: the broadcast, you can tell your buddy, yeah, I know

658
00:27:18,388 --> 00:27:19,868
Speaker 2: that name because Jamie said it on.

659
00:27:19,908 --> 00:27:20,588
Speaker 3: Did you Catch That?

660
00:27:20,908 --> 00:27:21,028
Speaker 9: All?

661
00:27:21,108 --> 00:27:21,268
Speaker 3: Right?

662
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Speaker 2: Starting off with a guy in Philadelphia who, after preseason

663
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Speaker 2: Week one, Darius Cooper, had to stand up in front

664
00:27:28,548 --> 00:27:31,948
Speaker 2: of the local Philadelphia media and introduced himself because no

665
00:27:31,988 --> 00:27:34,628
Speaker 2: one had really done the media scram at his.

666
00:27:34,668 --> 00:27:35,668
Speaker 3: Locker just yet.

667
00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:39,348
Speaker 2: So Darius Cooper is from the suburbs of Saint Louis, Missouri.

668
00:27:39,468 --> 00:27:43,668
Speaker 2: He gets lightly recruited to Tarleton State the Texas. At

669
00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:48,068
Speaker 2: Tarleton State, he averaged twenty yards per catch. He goes

670
00:27:48,188 --> 00:27:51,908
Speaker 2: undrafted to the Philadelphia Eagles this offseason, and in the

671
00:27:51,908 --> 00:27:55,108
Speaker 2: preseason Week one game, he led all Eagles pass catchers

672
00:27:55,148 --> 00:27:58,628
Speaker 2: with six catches on seven targets eighty two yards and.

673
00:27:58,668 --> 00:27:59,868
Speaker 3: This touchdown.

674
00:28:03,108 --> 00:28:06,748
Speaker 8: Second down and one over the top got it touchdown.

675
00:28:07,708 --> 00:28:14,028
Speaker 4: Darius Cooper auch twenty yard laser from Tanner McKee. Who's

676
00:28:14,068 --> 00:28:16,788
Speaker 4: got him in the end zone again. He's having fun tonight.

677
00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:19,668
Speaker 6: He well, I'll have a fun tonight watch him and

678
00:28:19,788 --> 00:28:22,748
Speaker 6: Darius Cooper from Tarlton State.

679
00:28:24,068 --> 00:28:29,748
Speaker 8: The guy had over fourteen hundred yards, sixteen touchdowns, almost

680
00:28:29,748 --> 00:28:31,148
Speaker 8: twenty yards per catch.

681
00:28:31,188 --> 00:28:33,748
Speaker 5: He's making in stating his case to be a part

682
00:28:33,788 --> 00:28:36,108
Speaker 5: of this football team.

683
00:28:36,228 --> 00:28:40,428
Speaker 2: Yep, Tarlton State the Texans. The only active NFL player

684
00:28:40,468 --> 00:28:43,668
Speaker 2: that is playing snaps in the regular season from Tarlton

685
00:28:43,668 --> 00:28:46,348
Speaker 2: State right now is the linebacker e J. Speed, who

686
00:28:46,388 --> 00:28:49,348
Speaker 2: actually plays for the Texans. So, Tarlton State, you might

687
00:28:49,388 --> 00:28:51,828
Speaker 2: have another guy putting your school on the map now.

688
00:28:51,988 --> 00:28:53,428
Speaker 3: Tarlton State is of the.

689
00:28:53,388 --> 00:28:56,108
Speaker 2: FCS and he was a first team All American as

690
00:28:56,108 --> 00:28:58,868
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. There were three last season. The other

691
00:28:58,908 --> 00:29:02,588
Speaker 2: one is Efton Chisholm. The third out of New England

692
00:29:02,628 --> 00:29:05,588
Speaker 2: the Patriots wide receiver. No, oh, that is not Wes Welker,

693
00:29:05,588 --> 00:29:08,788
Speaker 2: who would be another qualifier for a great undrafted wide receiver.

694
00:29:09,108 --> 00:29:12,428
Speaker 2: This is Efton chism the Third, five foot ten nearly

695
00:29:12,468 --> 00:29:16,548
Speaker 2: two hundred pounds. He is unmissible at practice, however, he

696
00:29:16,788 --> 00:29:19,748
Speaker 2: was missed in the draft. Like I said, undrafted out

697
00:29:19,748 --> 00:29:21,028
Speaker 2: of Eastern Washington.

698
00:29:21,348 --> 00:29:23,788
Speaker 3: He currently holds an FCS.

699
00:29:23,308 --> 00:29:26,508
Speaker 2: Record out of Eastern Washington because in all fifty three

700
00:29:26,548 --> 00:29:29,428
Speaker 2: games he played in college, he caught a pass fifty

701
00:29:29,468 --> 00:29:32,268
Speaker 2: three games straight. In the preseason game Week one for

702
00:29:32,388 --> 00:29:35,348
Speaker 2: the Patriots against the Commanders, Efton chism the third, I

703
00:29:35,388 --> 00:29:37,268
Speaker 2: like to say the whole thing had six catches on

704
00:29:37,308 --> 00:29:39,548
Speaker 2: eight targets, good for a touchdown and.

705
00:29:39,468 --> 00:29:40,628
Speaker 3: Fifty yards receiving.

706
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Speaker 2: His wide receiver coach Todd Downing said, Chisholm is an

707
00:29:43,308 --> 00:29:45,868
Speaker 2: absolute joy to work with. His work ethic is second

708
00:29:45,908 --> 00:29:46,388
Speaker 2: to none.

709
00:29:46,428 --> 00:29:49,388
Speaker 3: He's got to fight for all of his opportunities then

710
00:29:49,548 --> 00:29:50,428
Speaker 3: make the most of them.

711
00:29:50,468 --> 00:29:53,108
Speaker 2: So, as we mentioned Darius Cooper and Efton Chislm, two

712
00:29:53,348 --> 00:29:57,628
Speaker 2: of the three FCS wide receiver All Americans from last season,

713
00:29:57,628 --> 00:30:00,788
Speaker 2: that's number two on the list. Number three, you ever

714
00:30:00,868 --> 00:30:03,268
Speaker 2: show up at a job interview and you're like, I

715
00:30:03,268 --> 00:30:06,108
Speaker 2: want this job so bad, I will wear the company's

716
00:30:06,148 --> 00:30:08,748
Speaker 2: shirt to the interview. It's like if someone wanted to

717
00:30:08,788 --> 00:30:11,588
Speaker 2: be Kyle Brandt's assistant and he wears an angry run

718
00:30:11,628 --> 00:30:13,988
Speaker 2: shirt that he made at home to get the job.

719
00:30:14,068 --> 00:30:17,108
Speaker 2: That is what Isaac Testlaw did when he showed up

720
00:30:17,108 --> 00:30:19,108
Speaker 2: for his Detroit Lions interview.

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Speaker 3: This is Isaac Teslaw.

722
00:30:20,508 --> 00:30:23,748
Speaker 2: He grew up in Michigan and he has been a

723
00:30:23,788 --> 00:30:26,548
Speaker 2: lifelong Lions fan to the point when he came to

724
00:30:26,628 --> 00:30:29,708
Speaker 2: his interview out of Arkansas, he showed.

725
00:30:29,508 --> 00:30:31,748
Speaker 3: Up in a homemade test Law Jersey.

726
00:30:31,788 --> 00:30:35,068
Speaker 2: This is like the ring camera version in the Lions facility,

727
00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:37,668
Speaker 2: and there is Teslaw wearing a number ten made.

728
00:30:37,828 --> 00:30:39,748
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell actually said this was kind.

729
00:30:39,588 --> 00:30:42,628
Speaker 2: Of odd and intense and maybe a little overeager, but

730
00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:45,108
Speaker 2: apparently it worked because he went in the third round

731
00:30:45,188 --> 00:30:48,468
Speaker 2: to the Detroit Lions. He started out at Hillsdale College

732
00:30:48,708 --> 00:30:52,108
Speaker 2: the Chargers before transferring to Arkansas. Hillsdale, of course, is

733
00:30:52,148 --> 00:30:54,588
Speaker 2: in Division two in Hillsdale, Michigan, so he did not

734
00:30:54,708 --> 00:30:57,508
Speaker 2: stray far from home, like I said, a lifelong Lions

735
00:30:57,548 --> 00:31:00,668
Speaker 2: fan and now after making his homemade Jersey. He is

736
00:31:00,708 --> 00:31:03,588
Speaker 2: making an impression on training camp, and as head coach.

737
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Speaker 12: I thought he did well. I thought he played better

738
00:31:06,348 --> 00:31:08,868
Speaker 12: than he did the first week, you know. And I

739
00:31:08,868 --> 00:31:12,868
Speaker 12: would say ever since we put pads on, he's been

740
00:31:12,908 --> 00:31:15,908
Speaker 12: trending this way, you know. So that's a good sign,

741
00:31:16,188 --> 00:31:19,348
Speaker 12: is that you're getting better with pads on than the pajamas.

742
00:31:20,348 --> 00:31:23,428
Speaker 12: So that was awesome, you know.

743
00:31:23,508 --> 00:31:25,388
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell's all about when you put the pads on.

744
00:31:25,428 --> 00:31:25,588
Speaker 4: Now.

745
00:31:25,628 --> 00:31:27,868
Speaker 2: Teslaw at his high school in Michigan was a long

746
00:31:27,988 --> 00:31:30,348
Speaker 2: jump record holder. So that's going to bode well if

747
00:31:30,348 --> 00:31:32,628
Speaker 2: you're a wide receiver or pass catcher, and a good

748
00:31:32,628 --> 00:31:34,668
Speaker 2: thing for Jared Goff to have in this line's offense.

749
00:31:34,748 --> 00:31:37,668
Speaker 2: Number four, let's check in elsewhere in the NFC North.

750
00:31:37,708 --> 00:31:38,388
Speaker 3: This is John A.

751
00:31:38,508 --> 00:31:41,828
Speaker 2: Walker, an undrafted free agent out of Texas A and M,

752
00:31:41,868 --> 00:31:44,948
Speaker 2: but he actually started his college career at Division two

753
00:31:45,188 --> 00:31:48,548
Speaker 2: Grand Valley State. In the first week of the preseason

754
00:31:48,628 --> 00:31:51,348
Speaker 2: for the Chicago Bears, he led the Bears offense with

755
00:31:51,388 --> 00:31:55,668
Speaker 2: three catches, forty one yards and a touchdown from case Keenum.

756
00:31:55,908 --> 00:31:58,828
Speaker 2: Now here's a Listen to the touchdown, but specifically pay

757
00:31:58,868 --> 00:32:01,908
Speaker 2: attention to the celebration potential.

758
00:32:04,908 --> 00:32:08,708
Speaker 10: Rights touchdown for Chicago. How the up Bears hap the

759
00:32:08,788 --> 00:32:14,508
Speaker 10: lead again? The little floating fade pass for the rookie

760
00:32:14,508 --> 00:32:17,148
Speaker 10: out of Texas A and M by way of Grand

761
00:32:17,268 --> 00:32:18,668
Speaker 10: Valley states, what a play?

762
00:32:18,748 --> 00:32:19,708
Speaker 7: Want to throw it a catch?

763
00:32:20,988 --> 00:32:21,228
Speaker 3: Now?

764
00:32:21,308 --> 00:32:22,948
Speaker 2: You might want this guy to make the team just

765
00:32:22,988 --> 00:32:27,188
Speaker 2: because his professionalism on the Jewbee slide. That is a

766
00:32:27,228 --> 00:32:30,028
Speaker 2: TikTok dance. That is every right now a viral sensation.

767
00:32:30,268 --> 00:32:32,468
Speaker 2: This is not the first time Joddy Walker has.

768
00:32:32,428 --> 00:32:33,948
Speaker 3: Hit the Jewbee slide.

769
00:32:34,068 --> 00:32:36,548
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a sideways moonwalk if you want

770
00:32:36,548 --> 00:32:38,828
Speaker 2: to translate it. He did it in an intro video

771
00:32:38,908 --> 00:32:40,788
Speaker 2: for Texas A and M. He did it, I think

772
00:32:40,788 --> 00:32:42,428
Speaker 2: when he signed with the Bears, and now he's doing

773
00:32:42,468 --> 00:32:44,708
Speaker 2: it catching touchdowns in the preseason for the Bears. So

774
00:32:44,748 --> 00:32:47,748
Speaker 2: if you like touchdowns elevations, let's hope Johnny Walker makes

775
00:32:47,788 --> 00:32:50,588
Speaker 2: a fifty three men roster. Lastly, Man Titeo and I

776
00:32:50,628 --> 00:32:53,108
Speaker 2: got to go to Chargers training camp for back together weekend.

777
00:32:53,348 --> 00:32:56,268
Speaker 2: We're watching We're watching Trey Lance, We're watching Justin Herbert.

778
00:32:56,508 --> 00:33:00,028
Speaker 2: And there was an undrafted free agent wide receiver at

779
00:33:00,068 --> 00:33:03,428
Speaker 2: Camp Dale Von Campbell or d Camp if you will,

780
00:33:03,868 --> 00:33:06,508
Speaker 2: And this is one of these players. He is massive,

781
00:33:06,668 --> 00:33:10,428
Speaker 2: check it, six foot four, two hundred and twenty pounds

782
00:33:10,468 --> 00:33:13,828
Speaker 2: going up and getting balls from these quarterbacks for the Chargers.

783
00:33:13,988 --> 00:33:16,308
Speaker 3: He is your classic three stop college player.

784
00:33:16,348 --> 00:33:20,228
Speaker 2: He went from Illinois to Nevada to South Carolina before

785
00:33:20,268 --> 00:33:22,468
Speaker 2: finding his home in Los Angeles.

786
00:33:22,508 --> 00:33:24,388
Speaker 3: Now, not only can this guy.

787
00:33:24,348 --> 00:33:27,628
Speaker 2: Move at six foot four, two twenty, he was a

788
00:33:27,748 --> 00:33:30,468
Speaker 2: part of a relay team in Texas.

789
00:33:30,508 --> 00:33:32,428
Speaker 3: He went to high school in Texas.

790
00:33:32,308 --> 00:33:35,068
Speaker 2: On the four by two hundred crew that won a

791
00:33:35,188 --> 00:33:37,908
Speaker 2: Texas state title in the four by two hundred. Six

792
00:33:37,948 --> 00:33:40,748
Speaker 2: foot four, two twenty won a relay for for the

793
00:33:40,788 --> 00:33:42,948
Speaker 2: four by two hundred. I think that's fast, I think

794
00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:44,148
Speaker 2: that's big, and I think.

795
00:33:44,028 --> 00:33:45,428
Speaker 3: That's really good for a wide receiver.

796
00:33:45,708 --> 00:33:48,108
Speaker 2: Dale Von Campbell everybody in his two In his game

797
00:33:48,668 --> 00:33:51,148
Speaker 2: against the Saints, he had three catches sixty two yards

798
00:33:51,428 --> 00:33:54,028
Speaker 2: and he's a good, nice, big target for Justin Herbert

799
00:33:54,028 --> 00:33:54,948
Speaker 2: and this Chargers offense.

800
00:33:55,068 --> 00:33:56,468
Speaker 3: There it is did you catch that?

801
00:33:56,628 --> 00:33:58,868
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's not just the ball, it's the names.

802
00:33:58,908 --> 00:33:59,308
Speaker 3: It's guys.

803
00:33:59,308 --> 00:34:01,468
Speaker 2: Maybe they're late round flyers on your fantasy team, but

804
00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:04,028
Speaker 2: it's fun to go to the undrafted guys, the late

805
00:34:04,108 --> 00:34:05,308
Speaker 2: round go and see where they're at.

806
00:34:05,388 --> 00:34:07,428
Speaker 3: Kyle Bryant, great job, James.

807
00:34:07,228 --> 00:34:09,468
Speaker 7: Thank you, Yes, that was great, Jamie.

808
00:34:09,468 --> 00:34:10,868
Speaker 4: I have all kinds of reactions.

809
00:34:11,508 --> 00:34:14,108
Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating with the Lions that Detroit, with

810
00:34:14,188 --> 00:34:17,148
Speaker 1: their automotive history has a guy named Tesla coming in

811
00:34:17,188 --> 00:34:18,988
Speaker 1: now as a fully electric vehicle.

812
00:34:19,228 --> 00:34:22,028
Speaker 4: But I like the story. I've been wearing his own jersey.

813
00:34:22,268 --> 00:34:24,868
Speaker 1: There's a legendary story in Hollywood of like twenty five

814
00:34:24,908 --> 00:34:28,188
Speaker 1: years ago when they were casting the original Toby Maguire Superman,

815
00:34:28,428 --> 00:34:31,788
Speaker 1: that Freddie Prince Junior walked into the casting offices in

816
00:34:31,828 --> 00:34:34,868
Speaker 1: a full Spider Man costume to try to impress them,

817
00:34:34,948 --> 00:34:36,908
Speaker 1: be like I can play this role. Didn't work out

818
00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:38,588
Speaker 1: for Freddy. They went with Toby Maguire. But I like

819
00:34:38,668 --> 00:34:39,908
Speaker 1: that Tesla had that in him.

820
00:34:40,148 --> 00:34:40,788
Speaker 7: The other guy.

821
00:34:41,708 --> 00:34:43,828
Speaker 1: This is especially you guys at the table as ex

822
00:34:43,868 --> 00:34:46,748
Speaker 1: players will relate to this. Darius Cooper right out of

823
00:34:46,788 --> 00:34:50,268
Speaker 1: Tarlton State. Can we see Darius Cooper? Because I think

824
00:34:50,308 --> 00:34:52,948
Speaker 1: it is so funny that he's this wide receiver wearing

825
00:34:53,188 --> 00:34:55,068
Speaker 1: forty one in training camp.

826
00:34:55,268 --> 00:34:56,188
Speaker 4: That is unheard of.

827
00:34:56,468 --> 00:34:58,788
Speaker 1: There's never been a wide receiver number forty one. It

828
00:34:58,828 --> 00:35:01,228
Speaker 1: is this random number they give you when you're the

829
00:35:01,268 --> 00:35:03,028
Speaker 1: guy from Tarlton State and you got to go out

830
00:35:03,068 --> 00:35:04,108
Speaker 1: there and just make it look good.

831
00:35:04,388 --> 00:35:06,508
Speaker 4: I looked it up at Tarlton State. He were number six.

832
00:35:06,948 --> 00:35:08,988
Speaker 1: Six is a number for modern times that works for

833
00:35:09,028 --> 00:35:11,788
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I can't think of a wide receiver ever,

834
00:35:11,908 --> 00:35:13,908
Speaker 1: you'd have to go back to black and white when

835
00:35:13,948 --> 00:35:16,188
Speaker 1: they wear forty one. But it's like he's making it

836
00:35:16,228 --> 00:35:18,468
Speaker 1: look good. I'm going to rock this. Forty one one

837
00:35:18,468 --> 00:35:20,628
Speaker 1: of the worst number is an NFL history or sports

838
00:35:20,668 --> 00:35:22,868
Speaker 1: history outside of Derktovinski, And I'm going to make it

839
00:35:22,868 --> 00:35:23,188
Speaker 1: look good.

840
00:35:23,228 --> 00:35:24,028
Speaker 4: And I respect that.

841
00:35:24,148 --> 00:35:24,908
Speaker 7: Darius Cooper.

842
00:35:25,308 --> 00:35:27,468
Speaker 3: It's Sopervi Kyle and he's the number forty one.

843
00:35:27,548 --> 00:35:29,428
Speaker 2: When he catches a touchdown like that, it's like you

844
00:35:29,508 --> 00:35:31,428
Speaker 2: have to justify the forty one, be like, well he

845
00:35:31,508 --> 00:35:34,228
Speaker 2: is out of Tarlton State, Like you have to like it's.

846
00:35:36,868 --> 00:35:39,188
Speaker 8: Well, James, that that was awesome. I looked up the

847
00:35:39,308 --> 00:35:43,428
Speaker 8: name Efton chisholm so e Fton. It comes from Old

848
00:35:43,548 --> 00:35:46,788
Speaker 8: English language and it means settlement by the river.

849
00:35:46,868 --> 00:35:48,468
Speaker 4: And when I think of a settlement by.

850
00:35:48,388 --> 00:35:50,548
Speaker 8: The river or a house or a cottage by the river,

851
00:35:50,628 --> 00:35:53,228
Speaker 8: I think of like smoke coming out the chimney and

852
00:35:53,228 --> 00:35:55,428
Speaker 8: what I've seen from fton Chishlm. He ain't afraid of

853
00:35:55,428 --> 00:35:57,788
Speaker 8: no smoke now, oh he also ain't afraid to be

854
00:35:57,828 --> 00:36:00,428
Speaker 8: on no island whatever dB you put out there. So

855
00:36:00,788 --> 00:36:03,348
Speaker 8: I thought that was brilliant. I do like ftin Chishlm.

856
00:36:03,348 --> 00:36:06,188
Speaker 8: There's a new boat, the Patriots and these receivers they

857
00:36:06,228 --> 00:36:09,588
Speaker 8: have these names Wes Welker. Yeah, it kind of lines

858
00:36:09,628 --> 00:36:10,508
Speaker 8: up perfectly with them.

859
00:36:10,588 --> 00:36:12,588
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd keep the forty one. I would try to

860
00:36:12,628 --> 00:36:15,148
Speaker 5: make that hot and thirty eight. Yes, I try to

861
00:36:15,148 --> 00:36:16,668
Speaker 5: make hand them back to where I went to school.

862
00:36:16,668 --> 00:36:17,588
Speaker 5: Who was the second guy?

863
00:36:17,588 --> 00:36:17,868
Speaker 4: Again?

864
00:36:18,788 --> 00:36:21,308
Speaker 3: It would be it was Chism, wasn't it Darius?

865
00:36:21,308 --> 00:36:21,748
Speaker 4: Is that the guy?

866
00:36:21,828 --> 00:36:23,668
Speaker 5: Or Elsworth or something that's make you want to put

867
00:36:23,668 --> 00:36:28,788
Speaker 5: your pinky out when you drink, you know, and careful.

868
00:36:28,468 --> 00:36:35,548
Speaker 3: Kyle, It's it's not Tesla. It's Tesla.

869
00:36:34,748 --> 00:36:35,028
Speaker 4: Law.

870
00:36:36,628 --> 00:36:39,588
Speaker 1: Your fast law sounds like like a cheap version of

871
00:36:39,588 --> 00:36:40,388
Speaker 1: a Tesla that.

872
00:36:40,348 --> 00:36:41,668
Speaker 4: You get on a knockoff.

873
00:36:42,948 --> 00:36:44,908
Speaker 7: I get it live.

874
00:36:46,028 --> 00:36:48,548
Speaker 2: Did you catch that on GEOMAF You look for those

875
00:36:48,588 --> 00:36:50,188
Speaker 2: guys throughout the season?

876
00:36:50,188 --> 00:36:52,588
Speaker 3: Animal Unearth some more as August rolls out