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Speaker 2: you ready for the corniest transition ever? Yes, that would
Speaker 2: be not safe for work. Spencer Strider right now is
Speaker 2: not safe for Oh that was pretty good grade, real quick. Six.
Speaker 1: I was going to give it a letter grade. But
Speaker 1: if we're doing and you know what, I think that
Speaker 1: was a strong eight and a half but clever, perfect,
Speaker 1: Thank you. Arm was very like passive with the six.
Speaker 1: I was expecting like a two or three from him.
Speaker 1: So six is great. Spencer Strider. We just watched a sequence.
Speaker 2: He's got nine punchouts for four as we hit the
Speaker 2: record button against Arizona in it LANDA and right before
Speaker 2: we hopped on, we just watched a sequence to open
Speaker 2: the top of the fourth inning. Could tell Marte first
Speaker 2: pitch at the top of the fourth one O nine
Speaker 2: off the bat the other way. Acunya had like his
Speaker 2: play card, like sitting in the heel of his glove
Speaker 2: and he was on a dead sprint. It was a
Speaker 2: really good effort by Acunya. Hit off the edge of
Speaker 2: his glove, you know, kind of sat at the base
Speaker 2: of the wall. Could tell Marty with a leadoff triple
Speaker 2: first pitch of the fourth inning, Strider then strikes out
Speaker 2: Corbyn Carroll and makes him look like a low A ballplayer.
Speaker 2: He strikes out Christian Walker, makes him look like a
Speaker 2: minor leaguer, and then he strikes out Dominic Canzone, who
Speaker 2: is up from triple A. Looked like a triple A guy. Strider.
Speaker 2: They were talking about it on Brandon Goddon and his
Speaker 2: partner were talking about it on Bally Sports South and
Speaker 2: the Braves. Modern era record for k's in a season
Speaker 2: is Smoltz at two sixty seven. Stryder's gonna blow past that,
Speaker 2: and I know we did this exercise Peter with Ryan Finkelstein. Yeah, like,
Speaker 2: this guy is striking out fourteen per nine in his career.
Speaker 2: I know he's gotten blown up at points, but the
Speaker 2: best version of Spencer Stroyder looks like the best pitcher
Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: He does do that to us sometimes. I mean, right now,
Speaker 1: five innings, two hits, twelve k's against the Diamondbacks, who
Speaker 1: are no slouch offensively, who won the first two games
Speaker 1: against the Braves. Right we see the Braves as these
Speaker 1: juggernauts who can never lose, who are on pace for
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight game season, one hundred and eight wins,
Speaker 1: and the Diamonbacks come in there and they're feisty. Then
Speaker 1: sometimes you get Strider when he's feeling good, and he
Speaker 1: does look like the best pitcher alive. The problem is
Speaker 1: that the start before he got run up on by
Speaker 1: the White Sox. He's been a little bit more inconsistent
Speaker 1: this season, and I think it has a lot to
Speaker 1: do with his velocity. But when you see and I
Speaker 1: think I talked about this, there was one game where
Speaker 1: I faded Spencer Schreider in some form of facet. I
Speaker 1: took an over or something, and it was based on
Speaker 1: Streider's velocity dipping below like ninety six. It wasn't the
Speaker 1: typical ninety eight ninety nine at the top of the zone.
Speaker 1: But then he threw his first pitch at ninety nine
Speaker 1: in that game that I bet on. Of course, I
Speaker 1: lost it because when Streider has that, it's unbelievable. So
Speaker 1: I kind of grimaced when you said I could he
Speaker 1: could beat John Smoltz two hundred and sixty seven. K's
Speaker 1: not because he can't rack up that many cases. It's
Speaker 1: just will the innings be there for him? But in
Speaker 1: terms of a per inning, he's gonna blow past John Smoltz.
Speaker 1: If he threw as many innings as John Smoltz did
Speaker 1: in that season, which I assume was what in the
Speaker 1: two twenties, he'd be well over three hundred strikeouts at
Speaker 1: this pace. It's just in this day and age arm
Speaker 1: our old man thoughts. In this day and age, pitchers
Speaker 1: don't go past the fifth or the sixth inning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right now, Stre's got five IgGs, twelve k's. His pitch
Speaker 1: count is getting up there right now, I still at
Speaker 1: seventy two pitches. He might just throw. He might have
Speaker 1: twenty sharukouts in this game. It's we're speaking right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's for me even more than the velocity.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's like the command of the fastball.
Speaker 3: There's some days where he just gets he just gets
Speaker 3: launched on. Like it's really about the home runs. Twelve
Speaker 3: of his fourteen home runs this year have come on
Speaker 3: the fastball, and if you look at the spots, the
Speaker 3: majority of them are are right down the middle. And
Speaker 3: then the ones that you know kind of were just
Speaker 3: freak swings. One was a Miggie swing that I have
Speaker 3: no idea how he did that. It was that one
Speaker 3: that was off the plate inside, and then a couple
Speaker 3: just guys that cheated on on elevated fastballs and hitters counts.
Speaker 3: So for the most part, it's either a guy cheats
Speaker 3: in a hitter's count and gets it or it's missing middle.
Speaker 3: And the vast majority of his home runs are just
Speaker 3: fastballs that miss middle. So that's really it. And that's
Speaker 3: the crazy thing is as long as he keeps the
Speaker 3: ball in the yard like he's going to give you
Speaker 3: a quality start, and it just seems like when he's
Speaker 3: one of those guys to the point of being the
Speaker 3: most dominant. When he's locked in, it just seems like
Speaker 3: it's feudal to even try. There's few guys that make
Speaker 3: hitters look as silly as Spencer Strider makes them look.
Speaker 1: The only thing, Arma, and I totally agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think it is more fastball command than straight up velocity.
Speaker 1: The thing is, when he has ninety nine, I feel
Speaker 1: like he can get away with middle middle fastballs, like
Speaker 1: I've seen it, just blow fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like when he's ninety six and the command
Speaker 1: isn't there, that's when he really can get blown up.
Speaker 1: But when he's ninety nine he can miss middle and
Speaker 1: still get away with it. But these are big league
Speaker 1: hitters who can hit a bullet.
Speaker 2: So and the thing is, I think when he is
Speaker 2: ninety nine, if you close your eyes and think about
Speaker 2: Spencer Strider fastballs, you're probably viewing like, hey, top of
Speaker 2: the zone, he's getting swings underneath it, ninety nine, ninety
Speaker 2: eight upstairs. But to Arham's point, like this guy is
Speaker 2: so freaking good when it comes to east to west
Speaker 2: and north to south as well, Like I see so
Speaker 2: many ninety eights dotted on the lower outside corner to
Speaker 2: lefty bats. It's incredible from him when he's right, but
Speaker 2: when he's not right, it's down the deck and its
Speaker 2: bombs away. Courtesius stat Muse top ten in a single
Speaker 2: season for k's per nine among qualified pitchers. Strider in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three would have if the season ended today,
Speaker 2: and this is before this start against Arizona on Thursday,
Speaker 2: the twentieth fourteen point three case per nine would be
Speaker 2: the major league record. Shane Bieber in twenty twenty is
Speaker 2: two twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Throwout, Yeah, it didn't count.
Speaker 2: Garrett Cole in twenty nineteen with Houston thirteen point eight
Speaker 2: k's pernine. That was like out of body experience the
Speaker 2: entire year. Jacob de Gramm in twenty twenty, throw it
Speaker 2: out the window. Randy Johnson in two thousand and one,
Speaker 2: Pedro Martinez in ninety nine, Chris Sale in seventeen, schures
Speaker 2: Are in nineteen. Like, that's the company that Strider's in
Speaker 2: in year two of his major league career, and it
Speaker 2: is the start that Doc Gooden had. I know that
Speaker 2: we weren't alive for Doc Gooden, but this is what
Speaker 2: I think the old heads of baseball fandom were experiencing
Speaker 2: when they experienced Doc Good and they saw a guy
Speaker 2: that was on the trajectory to become one of the
Speaker 2: greatest came in of all time. And I it sucks
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna bring him up, But I think that's
Speaker 2: exactly the feeling that I had when watching Jose Fernandez
Speaker 2: an arm. I'm sure that's the same thing that you
Speaker 2: felt too.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 3: Was another one of those guys that when he was on,
Speaker 3: it was like good luck and it was musty te fun.
Speaker 3: It's exactly what Strider is. Yeah, you just laugh at
Speaker 3: the pitches that he's making. It's just it's there's a
Speaker 3: different level and there's just like this this laughable factor
Speaker 3: that's certain like just of the top top arms.
Speaker 4: In the game.
Speaker 3: Reached to Graham of course one of those guys too
Speaker 3: that it's to put it into words, but it's just
Speaker 3: like this guy's doing something that few can and Strider
Speaker 3: when he's on, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 4: On the mound.
Speaker 1: And I also want to shout out just I know
Speaker 1: we're talking a lot about Strider, but in that game
Speaker 1: right now, end of the fifth it is still zero
Speaker 1: zero because Zach Gallen, who is right now the front
Speaker 1: runner for the National League Say Young is also shoving
Speaker 1: against one of the best offenses that we've seen in
Speaker 1: the last half decade. And another guy, Corbyn Burns, just
Speaker 1: continues to dominate one four straight games for the Brewers,
Speaker 1: and with him again. Earlier in the season, his cutter
Speaker 1: velocity was down and so were a lot of his
Speaker 1: different pitches. It didn't have the same zip that it
Speaker 1: normally does. Past four starts, cutter velocity right back up
Speaker 1: to ninety five, and right now he is in the
Speaker 1: midst of a very good start against the Phillies. I
Speaker 1: just looked at there was a runner on first base
Speaker 1: and then I scrolled down two outs media double play.
Speaker 1: I mean when he's on I still think he's one
Speaker 1: of the best pitchers on the planet too. This Day
Speaker 1: in Baseball's were recording during the day games on Friday,
Speaker 1: like even Andrew abb It right now is shoving against
Speaker 1: the Giants. Just good pitching. You put out a great
Speaker 1: tweet on Twitter, Jack about uh with I think you
Speaker 1: should leave and what I should mention about that. I
Speaker 1: have gotten more dms saying I don't need to watch
Speaker 1: it. It's not as funny as people are saying. It's a
Speaker 1: very polarizing show because people are saying it's not funny
Speaker 1: at all. But I also also gotten a couple dms
Speaker 1: and people saying, you have to watch it. It's the
Speaker 1: funniest thing I've ever watched.
Speaker 2: So the YouTube comments say otherwise. I saw a couple
Speaker 2: of YouTube comments saying, you gotta watch it. I will
Speaker 2: tell you my mom, my girlfriend hate it. My dad
Speaker 2: and my brother love it with a burning passion. I
Speaker 2: have several friends that hate it. I have several friends
Speaker 2: that love it. So it's not it's not a cheeseburger, Like,
Speaker 2: nobody is going to have like a passive reaction to
Speaker 2: it. It is very black and white.
Speaker 1: Ar I'm kind of as a passive to cheeseburgers at
Speaker 1: least now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. I like it a lot. It's
Speaker 4: it's fun.
Speaker 3: But like I'm not I'm not one of those like
Speaker 3: I'm not jack with what I think you should leave.
Speaker 3: I'm one of the rare like it but don't love it.
Speaker 3: Guys like I enjoy putting it on. But I got
Speaker 3: to be in.
Speaker 2: A certain mood, that's for sure. Yeah, So I had
Speaker 2: no personality before that. So I just kind of viewed
Speaker 2: that show as a chance to give myself a little
Speaker 2: bit of personality, and I've ran with it. So that's
Speaker 2: what I got going on. Spencer Strider generational talent, Tim
Speaker 2: Robinson generational talent, Shintaro Fujinami generational talent. And now he's
Speaker 2: the seventh inning guy for the sixth inn guy for
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Orioles. What's he gonna do here?
Speaker 1: I thought this was a good move for Baltimore.
Speaker 2: I really did, because you know, Fuji, I think people
Speaker 2: were quick to make fun of him because he's got
Speaker 2: an era in the eighths, but it was also pretty
Speaker 2: overblown that, like, oh, over his last fourteen appearances, he
Speaker 2: has like nearing a sub too era, like a very
Speaker 2: low twos and you know, he's striking out twenty five
Speaker 2: percent of guys and he's walking eight percent versus like,
Speaker 2: you know, twenty compared to twelve percent walk rate in
Speaker 2: a twelve vru through his first you know, sixteen appearances.
Speaker 2: I think it's somewhere in the middle, like you can't
Speaker 2: expect lights out set up man Shintaro Fujinami. But I
Speaker 2: thought this was a really good middle relief pickup for
Speaker 2: Baltimore down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just oh ahead, go ahead, Peter. No, I was
Speaker 1: just gonna read you on the stats because you mentioned
Speaker 1: at the at the top of the episode his stats
Speaker 1: through like his first eighteen games in last sixteen games.
Speaker 1: Foolish Baseball put it out. So in his first eighteen games,
Speaker 1: he said, three time All Star in the MPB. But
Speaker 1: he came over and looked like the worst pitcher that's
Speaker 1: ever told the Rubbers because he was a starter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: twelve to one to ninety RA, twenty percent k rate,
Speaker 1: fifteen percent walk rate. But then in his last sixteen
Speaker 1: games two four five ERA, twenty six percent k rate,
Speaker 1: eight percent walk rate. Location has been much better. It's
Speaker 1: just Oriels. Fans looking for dill See said you got
Speaker 1: Shintaro fu Jadabi instead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I do. I do like the
Speaker 3: move because they literally gave up nothing. They gave up
Speaker 3: Easton Lucas, who's like, you know, a quadruple a depth arms.
Speaker 2: We got Pepperdine.
Speaker 4: I have no idea.
Speaker 3: All I know is that Easton Lucas was drafted by
Speaker 3: the Marlins, traded for Jonathan VR, who was then traded
Speaker 3: for my friend Gryff and Co. Nine, so indirectly was
Speaker 3: the first domino of bringing Griff to the Marlins.
Speaker 4: But Lucas is throwing well this year, but he's.
Speaker 3: Kind of like a lefty, crafty reliever, Like you throw
Speaker 3: him in in a spot start maybe two.
Speaker 1: Like it really was.
Speaker 3: I think a dump of salary for the Oriole or
Speaker 3: for the A's. I think they wanted to give Fujinami
Speaker 3: a shot. See how it looks. Turns out he's just
Speaker 3: a reliever. It's a one year deal. Go get a
Speaker 3: forty man arm and that's exactly what they did. But
Speaker 3: for Fuji, he has not walked a batter in ten outings,
Speaker 3: which is saying a lot, because you walked a lot
Speaker 3: of batters prior to that. Twelve k's no walks in
Speaker 3: his last ten appearances. The stuff looks good. His fastball's
Speaker 3: average ninety nine point eight miles per hour splitter averages
Speaker 3: ninety three to ninety four over that last ten start span.
Speaker 3: Like if it all clicks for this guy, and we
Speaker 3: know the Orioles had a little bit of a reliever
Speaker 3: lab going, like Fuji could be a nice little pickup
Speaker 3: for them here down down the stretch.
Speaker 2: I was right fourteenth round pick at a Pepperdine in
Speaker 2: nineteen easton Lucas. I gotta get a fucking life, man,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't know that. I like it. And I saw
Speaker 2: Jenner Cano suck in Saint Paul last year and when
Speaker 2: he had that like crazy start to the end. He's
Speaker 2: an all star with a sub too.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was shocking at the beginning, but then you see
Speaker 2: what Bautista has turned into at the age of what
Speaker 2: twenty seven was his rookie year. Last year, Cano is
Speaker 2: thirty and he's kicking ass like this twenty nine thirty
Speaker 2: like Fujin Nami can absolutely capture some of that magic.
Speaker 2: And being on a good team, I feel like might
Speaker 2: help guys. I don't know, like that's that's just a
Speaker 2: thought there. So I did like that pick up you mentioned.
Speaker 2: It's nothing. They didn't have to give up any of
Speaker 2: that world class farm. They can still go ad shit.
Speaker 2: My only worry is the Orioles. Fuji's gonna make what
Speaker 2: four and a half for the rest of this year,
Speaker 2: maybe four for the rest of this year. That's four
Speaker 2: million dollars, like they're feeling it. He signed one year nine, right,
Speaker 2: I think it's three to three the rest of the way,
Speaker 2: is it three point three? The rest of the way.
Speaker 1: My worry, just while you guys look up the contract stuff,
Speaker 1: is that the Orioles are going to keep being the
Speaker 1: Orioles and not trade anybody and not get the big
Speaker 1: time starter. At the deadline it.
Speaker 3: Was one year three point twenty five, so they're literally
Speaker 3: paying him like a million dollars the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: They will feel that too. Who did I actually fuse
Speaker 2: him with one year nine?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. It's so weird. Yeah, man, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know they would have to pay Otani twelve.
Speaker 2: That's my worry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But are you are you guys feeling kind of
Speaker 1: the same thing as me, where the Orioles have all
Speaker 1: these prospects but then just continue to not get at
Speaker 1: the big fish at the deadline, Like, do you guys
Speaker 1: really truly think that this is finally the year where
Speaker 1: they add the big piece? Because I just keep having
Speaker 1: my doubts and it's based on past history. Maybe they
Speaker 1: do it finally, But after the fud Ghinami deal, I
Speaker 1: was like, are we just in the same thing and
Speaker 1: it's not like the Orioles absolutely need to add an arm.
Speaker 1: It would be incredibly impactful, and they should, but they're
Speaker 1: not in dire need of one, and they'll probably just
Speaker 1: look at other system being like, I think we're fine
Speaker 1: right now, and the window's just going to continue to open,
Speaker 1: and we don't need to add a Dylan Cease right.
Speaker 1: We don't need to add to Shane Bieber, We don't
Speaker 1: need to add even a lucasgi Alito. I just keep
Speaker 1: having those thoughts of we always expect the Oriols to
Speaker 1: do it, and then they never actually do it.
Speaker 2: You know, the last time do you know the last
Speaker 2: time Baltimore won the American League East.
Speaker 1: It's been a while, but Ooles fans are in first place.
Speaker 1: They're probably loving it right now. The bird bath and
Speaker 1: right field is electric.
Speaker 2: That's my answer. Last time is fourteen, Like, if you
Speaker 2: are on the cusp of doing something you haven't done
Speaker 2: since twenty fourteen, I think now is the time they
Speaker 2: push their chips in.
Speaker 1: I agree that makes logical sense, right.
Speaker 3: But well, here here's the thing, though, is what's out
Speaker 3: there if Dylan C's indeed is not available, which is
Speaker 3: we've talked about that, that's insane to me. But if
Speaker 3: he's not available, Dilito doesn't really move the needle.
Speaker 4: Jamont might. I think Jaymn's a guy that could move
Speaker 4: the needle.
Speaker 3: But then you're looking at the rental market. That really
Speaker 3: the only controllable pitcher that can help you this year
Speaker 3: is Dylan Cees that I can think of, Like, is
Speaker 3: Aaron Savali gonna do that much for you for.
Speaker 2: The Orioles especially now forearm thing going on.
Speaker 3: Stroman's a rental, but that's a rental that I think
Speaker 3: can makes sense. I think what we're gonna end up
Speaker 3: seeing the Orioles do is just get the highest prized rental,
Speaker 3: which would be Stroman and or Jamont. I think if
Speaker 3: they go get Stroman could kind of be an audition too,
Speaker 3: because I do think they're going to spend a little
Speaker 3: bit this offseason because they have their core locked up
Speaker 3: for very cheap with control for a while and they
Speaker 3: can go out. Now if they like Stroman, they can,
Speaker 3: they can extend him. They can you know, probably give
Speaker 3: him a nice offer and keep him around. And now
Speaker 3: they've got their their probably most consistent and ace, so
Speaker 3: to speak, even though he's not truly an ace. That's
Speaker 3: a good start. I think they do something like that.
Speaker 3: I think they should call on seas and try. But
Speaker 3: if he's not.
Speaker 4: Available, what else is there?
Speaker 3: There's just not really any other impactful frontline options out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good transition into what we
Speaker 2: want to you know, talk about for the next you know,
Speaker 2: forty forty five minutes or so, is uh, you know,
Speaker 2: trade destinations for guys. And we each have three. I've
Speaker 2: got Eduardo Rodriguez, I've got Marcus Stroman and Tim Anderson Peter,
Speaker 2: which three you got?
Speaker 1: I have Shoho Tawni, I have Lucas g Alito. And
Speaker 1: then I'm trying to cook up something with the Cardinals
Speaker 1: and the Giants because they're just such a good match
Speaker 1: for each other, and that's more of a workshop. I
Speaker 1: have a huge Galaxy brain trade that I sent in
Speaker 1: the group chat got immediate two laugh emojis, so I'm
Speaker 1: probably gonna get laughed off the podcast for it. But
Speaker 1: I just got something that makes sense. So I want
Speaker 1: to workshop a Cardinals Giants trade. But then of course
Speaker 1: I have a Gelito trade and a Tani trade.
Speaker 4: That wasn't a joke.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a joke. We're talking Galaxy Brain. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right at Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2: Save that one for last, because if you do get
Speaker 2: laughed off the podcast, like, it'll come at the very end.
Speaker 2: So we get your other two.
Speaker 1: I bet if I you know mentioned, hey, I think
Speaker 1: Max shirs Are and Trade Turner are going to get
Speaker 1: included in the same deal. At the time. It might
Speaker 1: be funny. We're just talking trades. We're just talking trades.
Speaker 4: We'll get to that one.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna highlight Dylan Carlson and jam On and then
Speaker 3: I have a third one that I'm I have a
Speaker 3: a couple that I'm deciding between, depending on how the
Speaker 3: conversation goes, I'll pick the third one.
Speaker 2: Got you, I think mine are probably the least sexy.
Speaker 2: I can start with Erod if you want, and then
Speaker 2: we can just kind of go clockwise, or we can
Speaker 2: knock Mine out, Peters out, and Arms out if you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why did you start?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm looking at EDWARDO. Rodriguez obviously Lefty with
Speaker 2: the Tigers, and you know, he is one of the
Speaker 2: better rentals, and he just had a really good start
Speaker 2: earlier this week. I think Erod is a guy that
Speaker 2: is upping his price, possibly on the rental market. I
Speaker 2: still don't think he's going to be that impressive. I
Speaker 2: think Erod makes a ton of sense for the Houston Astros,
Speaker 2: and I want to figure out a way to get
Speaker 2: Erod to Houston. I know that there was a rumor
Speaker 2: going around about, you know, Dylan Ceese being the astros
Speaker 2: number one priority. Like, no, I don't think they have
Speaker 2: the farm to do that, especially with the control, but
Speaker 2: they have the farm to go get a rental Erod.
Speaker 2: I think they can honestly do a one for one here.
Speaker 2: Tell me if it's out landish right now, and like,
Speaker 2: this could be the Astros just bullying the Tigers and
Speaker 2: dominating this trade. If the Tigers were smart, I think
Speaker 2: I would start the conversation by asking for Clifford, for
Speaker 2: Ryan Clifford for e Rod. I don't know if they're
Speaker 2: going to do that. I trust Scott Harris to ask
Speaker 2: for Ryan Clifford. Do you think a Melton for Eduardo
Speaker 2: Rodriguez deal straight up gets it done or no?
Speaker 4: I think it could.
Speaker 3: People people really like I like Melton a lot too,
Speaker 3: and I know that people within the Astros org I
Speaker 3: was literally just talking about these guys today, as I've
Speaker 3: been kind of finalizing the top one hundred and also
Speaker 3: getting working on the Astros Top ten, I think that
Speaker 3: would get it done. Like Melton's pretty darn good and
Speaker 3: pretty well loved within that org, So yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I think that could do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think of the e Rod fit
Speaker 2: in Houston, Peter?
Speaker 1: I love the Erod fit in Houston. Right, they go
Speaker 1: down with Luis Garcia. They need starting pitching, Like Brandon Black,
Speaker 1: I don't think is the answer long term, Ronel Blanco,
Speaker 1: I don't think is the answer long term? You don't, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And this isn't our normal Astros
Speaker 1: team where we're used to where it's you know, Verlander
Speaker 1: and and you know Framber is the two and then
Speaker 1: Christian Xavier throwing no hitters. Christian Xavier has really struggled
Speaker 1: this season. Like this is an Astros team where we're
Speaker 1: not really used to them really needing starting pitching. And
Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, a starting pitching, you know, a
Speaker 1: starting pitcher would just be a cherry on top of
Speaker 1: the Sunday. This is a team that at this point
Speaker 1: is desperate for starting pitching. With the decline of Christian Xavier.
Speaker 1: So I think they absolutely need Eduardo Rodriguez, and I
Speaker 1: think Scott Harris can say, we know that you need
Speaker 1: Eduardo Rodriguez, We're gonna need a little bit more. We're
Speaker 1: gonna need you to overpay. And like you said, I'm
Speaker 1: confident Scott Harris's ability not to get bullied here. Right
Speaker 1: when he traded Gregory Soto, he certainly didn't get bullied,
Speaker 1: and he's a good GM. We just haven't seen it
Speaker 1: quite on the field yet, even though the Tigers have
Speaker 1: performed above expectations, I think they're going to get a
Speaker 1: decent Hall for e Rod. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I think the Astros are perfect fit there.
Speaker 2: All right, do we want to snake it? Somebody want
Speaker 2: to go?
Speaker 1: I'll go, okay, go ahead. So I was looking at
Speaker 1: trades for Lucasgilito because I think Dylan cees right now,
Speaker 1: I think it's like fifty to fifty. I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: Fifty to fifty he gets traded. It's almost like a
Speaker 1: coin flip at this point.
Speaker 2: With the socks ineptitude, I'd say thirty seventy he gets traded,
Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, thirty thirty seventy or no.
Speaker 4: Thirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's very unlikely.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to just sit on the most
Speaker 3: valuable asset, which is so fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: Of course they would, but at this point, I think
Speaker 1: it's ninety eight to two ninety eight being yes that
Speaker 1: lucasgi Alito at least gets traded. So I look back
Speaker 1: last year, who's a team that could really use a
Speaker 1: bullpen arm and use his starter on top of it?
Speaker 1: And I look back remember when the Cardinals acquired jose
Speaker 1: Kntana and Chris Stratton in exchange for Joan Oviedo and
Speaker 1: a third base prospect, Malcolm Nunez. Malcolm Nunyez, So I
Speaker 1: was looking at okay, two prospects or Ovieda wasn't really
Speaker 1: a prospect, but he was a good young starting pitcher
Speaker 1: who at least made his debuts so far. Yeah, tweener exactly.
Speaker 1: So who's a team with a couple of tweeners right
Speaker 1: now who also have a good pharm system that could
Speaker 1: use that. So my prediction is Lucas g Alito and
Speaker 1: Kenyan Middleton to the Dodgers for Emmett Shean and then
Speaker 1: another piece, most likely now the second prospect. I don't
Speaker 1: think it has to be crazy because san is you know,
Speaker 1: he's a twenty three year old starter who does have
Speaker 1: good stuff and arm raves about the Tulsa drillers. But
Speaker 1: I was thinking, maybe you add a land and knack
Speaker 1: on top of it and call it a deal.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say Shean's too good for that. She's
Speaker 2: not a tweener. Shean's like a big part of what
Speaker 2: the Dodgers want to do moving forward. I'm curious how
Speaker 2: low the stock is for Gavin Stone. I feel like
Speaker 2: Stone might not even be good for that, but she
Speaker 2: And I think is like not untouchable. Like if they
Speaker 2: have to go get if they have to go to
Speaker 2: part with Shean for Otani, they're gonna do it. But
Speaker 2: I think for a guy like gi Alido for a rental,
Speaker 2: I don't think they want to move she In at all.
Speaker 1: The thing is like, I wonder who they value more,
Speaker 1: Stone or Shean, because I'm looking at Shean and you know,
Speaker 1: he's had a bumpy start to the season. He's still
Speaker 1: is young, but so is Gavin Stone. And these guys,
Speaker 1: these rookie pitchers are gonna go through their ups and
Speaker 1: downs early, I personally think, and you guys can correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, of the top starting pitchers that
Speaker 1: they have is she and the guy that they would
Speaker 1: be most likely willing to move, because you are getting
Speaker 1: a guy in Lucas Gilito who has had a really
Speaker 1: good year, very similar to Jose Kintana in that sense,
Speaker 1: where Kintana was around a three to five era one
Speaker 1: of the better rentals at the deadline, very similar to Gilito.
Speaker 1: Then they got Stratton, but we're thrown in Middleton, who's
Speaker 1: been a great reliever. Maybe to sweeten the deal, they
Speaker 1: go with Kendall Graveman, Right, they go with a very
Speaker 1: good reliever in order to get Shean. But the Dodgers
Speaker 1: just have an embarrassment of riches of just really good
Speaker 1: young starting pitchers. So I thought Shean might be the
Speaker 1: odd man out in this equation. But I feel like
Speaker 1: that recipe of one of these young starting pitchers on
Speaker 1: the Dodgers plus a maybe Landin Nak is too much.
Speaker 1: Maybe like a twenty to thirtieth rank prospect. Maybe someone
Speaker 1: even outside would make the deal for a Lucasgilito and
Speaker 1: a big time reliever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they could put it together with some
Speaker 3: of those young guys. I definitely want to keep Shehan.
Speaker 3: I think he might be there.
Speaker 4: Best arm right now of the of that group.
Speaker 1: But they have who's just that group that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Probably Miller, Stone, she and Pepio.
Speaker 4: Besides Miller.
Speaker 3: Miller is in his own Miller's graduated, starting pitcher pitches
Speaker 3: every fifth day. He's separated himself very quickly. I think
Speaker 3: she hen Stone, then you have Nack, you have Frosco,
Speaker 3: you have, you have all those guys kind of in
Speaker 3: that range, Kyle Hurt, you have. I would I would
Speaker 3: think that they could just part with one or two
Speaker 3: of any of those guys and and get it done.
Speaker 3: I don't think they need to move she at hand.
Speaker 3: But like to Peter's point, just a couple of the
Speaker 3: really solid double A to triple A starters one or
Speaker 3: in a flyer and you could probably get it done.
Speaker 3: Because those guys are all thrown really well and have
Speaker 3: pretty good value right now from that double A and
Speaker 3: triple A area.
Speaker 1: That's why like workshopping it. So do you think like
Speaker 1: a Pepio and a Knack for Gilito and Kendall Graveman,
Speaker 1: do we have a deal we have still between rick
Speaker 1: On and Andrew Friedman, Knack and Hurt.
Speaker 4: I think would get it done.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I do. I think that we overestimate
Speaker 2: the price of rentals could be because it is two months.
Speaker 2: Like it's two months and you've got like, if you
Speaker 2: move Keenan Middleton, you got two months of Keenan, you
Speaker 2: got two months of Giolito going to La like you're swapping.
Speaker 2: I guess twelve years of service for four months of
Speaker 2: you know, help. So you got to view it in
Speaker 2: that way. I think if they were to move Gelito
Speaker 2: in Middleton, I don't think they need Graveman. If they
Speaker 2: were to go Geelito and Middleton, I think something like
Speaker 2: Frostso and NAC could get it done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. I like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be great for the White Sox too, honestly.
Speaker 2: I think so, yeah, they need they need warm bodies
Speaker 2: in that system. We've talked about that.
Speaker 4: That can throw.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: I was watching The Twins yesterday.
Speaker 3: I know Peter was two, and they're a frustrating team
Speaker 3: for a lot of reasons we've talked about. We just
Speaker 3: talked about on the last episode, but their rotation right
Speaker 3: now is unbelievably good. I mean, it's just been steady
Speaker 3: and consistent. Kentemi Aida now is throwing really well now
Speaker 3: that he's healthy, six and a third of nine.
Speaker 4: K's two runs.
Speaker 3: So you've got the best producing in terms of f
Speaker 3: war rotation and baseball, and then you've got a lineup
Speaker 3: that strikes out with the worst of them, and then
Speaker 3: also really struggles against left handed pitching and the second
Speaker 3: worst WRC plus against left handed pitching Byron Buckson can't
Speaker 3: play center. They're playing Michael A. Taylor out there, They're
Speaker 3: playing Willie Castro out there. They're like platooning them. It's gross.
Speaker 3: I think they need to go get Dylan Carlson. And Carlson,
Speaker 3: you know, he's not fully becoming the player that we
Speaker 3: wanted him to be, but he's still twenty four. But
Speaker 3: the big reason why I like him is he can
Speaker 3: play in everyday center field. He is way better from
Speaker 3: the right side, which is interesting. So he would definitely
Speaker 3: help with those platoon splits. And even if you want to,
Speaker 3: you know, give him some days off, you know, against
Speaker 3: some good rieties, you can do that. But I still
Speaker 3: think he helps them a ton. One forty two WRC
Speaker 3: plus in his career against left handed pitching, he's been
Speaker 3: really good against left handed pitching again this year. The Twins,
Speaker 3: their rotation's pretty locked up for a while. Cardinals want pitching.
Speaker 3: Twins have plenty of arms that, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: think they have to worry about in the rotation. Plus,
Speaker 3: they're going to get Chris Paddock back, you know, pretty soon,
Speaker 3: which is a decent arm that just adds to the fold.
Speaker 3: So I think they could put together some sort of
Speaker 3: package around Louis Varland, who instantly could be a rotation
Speaker 3: option for the miserable Cardinals pitching situation. And then you
Speaker 3: added David Festa, who threw in the Futures Game, who
Speaker 3: I actually think that they were kind of pushing in
Speaker 3: the Futures Game to show really nasty stuff, big time upside.
Speaker 3: You throw in a third flyer piece, you know, a
Speaker 3: lower level piece, and I think that could be enough
Speaker 3: for Carlson, given that he's good. He has three years
Speaker 3: of control, but I think his value's never really been lower,
Speaker 3: and the Cardinals have made it clear that their plan
Speaker 3: is to put him on the bench potential once Tyler
Speaker 3: O'Neil comes back, which would even further deplete his value,
Speaker 3: So I think Varlin Festa and a piece could get
Speaker 3: it done.
Speaker 2: Before last week, I would have said that that is like,
Speaker 2: you still need to add more on Minnesota side to
Speaker 2: get Carlson. But after what we've heard from Ali Marmle,
Speaker 2: like you don't need dead more. It feels like they
Speaker 2: might just let him go to you for misaiel Orbino,
Speaker 2: who's got like a five fifty ops in high A
Speaker 2: right now. So I like that move a lot. The
Speaker 2: fact that that guy is already being looked at by
Speaker 2: damage good as damaged goods by his own team is despicable.
Speaker 2: On Ali Marmle is like on the hottest of hot
Speaker 2: seats ever, and only half of it has to do
Speaker 2: with what happens between the lines.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that guy just needs to shut up, honestly
Speaker 5: sometimes honestly, dude, like he's he's the most immature major
Speaker 5: league manager I've seen in years.
Speaker 4: Just rips.
Speaker 3: Dudes like that all have like pros pro reputations to
Speaker 3: Everybody loves Dylan Carlson, everybody loves Styler O'Neill. Wilson contrere
Speaker 3: is another story. Yeah, but that like it's it's shocking
Speaker 3: to me because they kind of get the same treatment
Speaker 3: as Wilson.
Speaker 4: In a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: But just going back to the Twins side of it,
Speaker 1: Twins fans have to be hurting talking about making trades
Speaker 1: at the deadline, like do they trust their general manager
Speaker 1: after trading aways Spencer Steer ed Christian Acarnacio and straand
Speaker 1: for Tyler Valley. But at the same time, that's a
Speaker 1: trade that makes a ton of sense for him. And
Speaker 1: the Twins are such an interesting team because when they're hitting,
Speaker 1: which they are right now. They're having a pretty great
Speaker 1: series against the Mariners, and it's carried over since the
Speaker 1: All Star break. They're hitting home runs and Ward Julienne
Speaker 1: is fantastic. Max Kepler's finally hitting again, you know, even
Speaker 1: from top to bottom, like Willie Castro has been hitting
Speaker 1: for them, And when Willie Castro in the seven hole
Speaker 1: is hitting, this team looks incredible because arm you talk
Speaker 1: about the pitching, right, you can go down the line
Speaker 1: in every day from top to bottom, all the way
Speaker 1: down from Joe Ryan down to Ken to Maida. You
Speaker 1: can get an ace type performance. It's Ken to Miata
Speaker 1: versus Luis Castillo, and guess who outdueled who Ken to Miaida,
Speaker 1: Like that's what they can do every fifth day. But
Speaker 1: when they aren't hitting and they're striking out at a
Speaker 1: thirty percent rate, you're like, it doesn't even matter what
Speaker 1: they get from their pitchings. But when they are hitting,
Speaker 1: it's a really really good team and they could use
Speaker 1: just another boost of a guy who doesn't strike out
Speaker 1: every yet that and is good against left handed pitching,
Speaker 1: because that's also been their problem now when they're striking out,
Speaker 1: their problems are against everyone. But also Carlson adds that
Speaker 1: element of defense too, And Varland ranks really high in
Speaker 1: like stuff plus metrics because he's got really good stuff.
Speaker 1: He just hasn't fully put it together yet. I just
Speaker 1: feel like knowing what the Cardinals have done with their
Speaker 1: pitching development, like do they get him, but do they
Speaker 1: un lock something or does he just continue to be
Speaker 1: kind of met and no matter, the Wives end up
Speaker 1: just getting the best of the deal, because I think
Speaker 1: we know at this point Dylan Carlson is not damaged goods.
Speaker 1: He's just a good player who struggled a little bit
Speaker 1: last season when I think he was going through an injury,
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 3: Think he's everything they need to Like Peter said, like
Speaker 3: just a glue guy that they need. They need something
Speaker 3: in the middle of all these all these big whiffs
Speaker 3: and big boppers, and they need somebody that they can
Speaker 3: kind of just put out there in the outfield and
Speaker 3: not have to really think about it. And if that
Speaker 3: guy's even your nine hitter, as like a second leadoff,
Speaker 3: he's in a position where he can thrive.
Speaker 4: I think he needs a change of scenery.
Speaker 3: I really do think it'll be beneficial for him to
Speaker 3: just get out of Saint.
Speaker 4: Louis and I've been go thrive. I really do you know?
Speaker 2: He feels super Marshy, he feels super branded Marshie Ye
Speaker 2: and Brandon marsh was he was hitting ninth in the
Speaker 2: World Series? Was he not?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think it was eighth or nine. Like he is
Speaker 2: totally Brandon marsh of this year. So I think that's
Speaker 2: pretty spot on. Real quick, before we move on, have
Speaker 2: you noticed what all the older announcers are calling Edward Julienne.
Speaker 2: They're calling him Eddie Julian like they don't want to
Speaker 2: learn how to say it, like with a French twang
Speaker 2: at all, Like Edward Julien is like pretty easy to say.
Speaker 2: But they're just like Oh yeah, American baseball name Eddie Julian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Eddie Juliet sounds like you could play for
Speaker 1: like the nineteen twenty Philadelphia A's or something like Eddie
Speaker 1: Julian takes the gets up to the plate with like
Speaker 1: enormous wool pants like Eddie Juliant.
Speaker 2: Though, I think we should just call him by his
Speaker 2: name and like how you're supposed to say his name.
Speaker 2: But okay, I'm going to take you guys to Marcus Stroman.
Speaker 2: I saw that the Rays are quote doing their homework
Speaker 2: on Stroman, and I want to attach some sort of
Speaker 2: idea to this because I think that is a perfect fit.
Speaker 2: It was not like Morosi or Hayman that was saying like,
Speaker 2: oh rais have checked in. It was Patrick Mooney and
Speaker 2: Sahada Sharma who covered the Cubs for the Athletic and
Speaker 2: they said it like in a podcast conversation. They said,
Speaker 2: the Rays, you know, could have interested in Bellinger and Stroman,
Speaker 2: but they've done their homework on Marcus Stroman, and I
Speaker 2: think that's a good fit because the Rays need availability
Speaker 2: in the rotation so bad. You think about how volatile
Speaker 2: that rotation is, how talented it is, but how volatile
Speaker 2: like they should be clamoring for Zach Efflin two point zero,
Speaker 2: and I think that's Stroman. I think Strowman embodies reliability.
Speaker 2: He embodies six innings per start, seven innings per start
Speaker 2: of two run ball. He's gonna roll ground balls. He's
Speaker 2: going to strike out, you know, five guys and seven innings,
Speaker 2: and he's going to give you an opportunity to win
Speaker 2: if you have a good offense. We also know that
Speaker 2: they can deal with those loud personalities. We already saw
Speaker 2: the Wander Franco thing pop up, and they took care
Speaker 2: of it in a very quiet way, in a non
Speaker 2: ali marmole way. They took care of an immature Wander
Speaker 2: Franco moment. I think they can handle a guy that
Speaker 2: like you know, has you know it, has loud actions
Speaker 2: in the clubhouse and Strowman. So I think that this
Speaker 2: rental fit is perfect for a team that just needs
Speaker 2: good pitchers in the starting rotation consistently.
Speaker 4: I also think he wants to win. You see that.
Speaker 3: I mean talk about a guy that always just rises
Speaker 3: to the occasion on the big stage. I think they're
Speaker 3: gonna get You're always getting a really good version of
Speaker 3: Stroman right now. But I think you get the best
Speaker 3: out of Stroman if he's pitching meaningful baseball games for
Speaker 3: the Rays and he's gonna git free agency. That's the
Speaker 3: kind of guy that I could see the Ray's paying
Speaker 3: because it's not going to be out of this world money.
Speaker 3: And honestly, I know Stroman just kind of wants to
Speaker 3: hunker down in one more place and kind of play
Speaker 3: his days out there. From everything I've I've seen him say,
Speaker 3: what better place than a team that's perpetually in I
Speaker 3: would say in the Hunts and pretty competitive. And that's
Speaker 3: for a guy that has kind of struggled to play
Speaker 3: for competitive teams over the last.
Speaker 4: Couple of years.
Speaker 2: Can I give you a one for one idea, Ronda? No,
Speaker 2: but Sabe, I think that's enough.
Speaker 4: But Sabe might not be enough.
Speaker 1: And Meisner, it's just Cubs fans aren't gonna be excited
Speaker 1: with that return for Marcustra been considering he has more
Speaker 1: years of control.
Speaker 4: No, he he really doesn't.
Speaker 2: Though he's got a player option hell opped out.
Speaker 1: He might opt out. It's a good point he will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hmm, it's a rental.
Speaker 1: I know, But that God, that's just such a boring return,
Speaker 1: but it might it might be the answer. But I
Speaker 1: know they alre to get rid of Marcus Stroman when
Speaker 1: they're still somewhat in it in the division. You know,
Speaker 1: the Reds there, they went on that Coultrie where the
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers kind of bullied them a little bit, and
Speaker 1: then the Brewers themselves have their own issues, but they've
Speaker 1: been playing much better baseball. Like if the Cubs were
Speaker 1: to trade their ace, even though I think Justin Steele
Speaker 1: at this point is their ace, but Steels coming off
Speaker 1: a really rough outing gets the Red Sox, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't take anything away from his a status, but one
Speaker 1: of their aces, like kind of arm said, like would
Speaker 1: is Manzardo too much? Like we got to give Cubs fans,
Speaker 1: you know, something for Stroman at least, I mean.
Speaker 4: Rental season man I Willie Vasquez.
Speaker 3: Oh, they need to They need to clear a forty spot,
Speaker 3: so that that's the thing. So I think it's got
Speaker 3: to be either Bruhan, Arnda, Rene Pine would probably be
Speaker 3: of interest. They could use some catching help along with Amaya,
Speaker 3: but I think they should they should just play Amya more.
Speaker 3: I think Ronda and and A in another piece, Ronda
Speaker 3: and Blake Hunt or something like that. Is is good enough, Ronda.
Speaker 3: They can plug right in right away. They just need
Speaker 3: bats and he's a guy that can obviously swing it
Speaker 3: and he's big league ready.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know it's sad. I know it's underwhelming. I
Speaker 2: know like this disappointed, dejected look right now.
Speaker 1: Because I feel for Cubs fans. It's you know, they're
Speaker 1: They're a tough team to evaluate because they're not out
Speaker 1: of it, but they're in it either. And to trade
Speaker 1: Stroman and not get like if I'm the Cubs personally
Speaker 1: and I'm trading Stroman, no, yeah, I mean Junior Kevendaro
Speaker 1: would be fucking amazing. Not him, but like I would
Speaker 1: like at least a man Zarto. I would rather have
Speaker 1: like one top like one great prospect, rather than like
Speaker 1: three decent ones which may just end up not doing it.
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm just hoping for more. That's probably where
Speaker 1: I'm coming from, more than like the actual what makes sense.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, if I'm a Cubs fan and
Speaker 1: I'm trading Marcus Stroman, i want one of the best
Speaker 1: prospects you can give me, rather than two like decent ones.
Speaker 1: Maybe one ends up being a big leaguer, like I
Speaker 1: want one great piece, but it is a rental because
Speaker 1: he will opt out. It's just a tough situation, is
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: So tell me, let's play again. I'm gonna run through
Speaker 2: like the high price pieces in the in the raised system.
Speaker 2: Yeah and arm you tell me if Eric Neander hangs
Speaker 2: up the phone, if if Jed Hoyer asks for this
Speaker 2: Manzardo hang up?
Speaker 1: Is he hanging up for Stroman? Straight up? They traded
Speaker 1: Joe Ryan for Nelson Cruz, anything could happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they didn't know that that was coming with
Speaker 2: Joe Ryan.
Speaker 1: It was a yeah. But they're on a forty man
Speaker 1: crunch right now too.
Speaker 4: But that's not a forty man player.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, Curtis mead fuck now exactly. Yeah, h Cameron
Speaker 2: Arow hang up immediately?
Speaker 4: Can and Arrow on blocking?
Speaker 2: Yes, trade cars? No, Xavier Isaac dude exactly. So then
Speaker 2: the next options are Mason Montgomery, Slavis, Basave our Cole
Speaker 2: Wilcox like Basabe I think is the best of the bunch,
Speaker 2: and he plugs in immediately. Basabe is a triple a
Speaker 2: guy that can play third, short and second. You've got
Speaker 2: Dansby out right. Now you need a third basement of
Speaker 2: the future because it looks like Morell is not good
Speaker 2: enough at third base to play third base. I think
Speaker 2: bisab is the answer here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess if I'm Jed Hoyer, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: is it enough? I might just trying to extend him then, Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2: They they had their opportunity.
Speaker 4: They they don't want to pay him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they came out and said that they are probably
Speaker 1: not going to extend it by the deadline, which makes
Speaker 1: us think he's gonna get traded. This is a weird spot. Fine,
Speaker 1: it will trade the eleventh rank prospect for Marcus Stroman.
Speaker 2: All right, Peter, who's your next one?
Speaker 1: So I'll end with the Otani trade. Let's workshop my
Speaker 1: galaxy brain one. So when I look at the Giants,
Speaker 1: a report came out that Farhan Ziety is going to
Speaker 1: be an aggressive buyer. Now I don't know if I
Speaker 1: fully buy the report, because the Giants are really smart,
Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. But there was a report
Speaker 1: that came out that the Giants are going to be
Speaker 1: aggressive buyers, and I don't see why not. The Dodgers
Speaker 1: aren't exactly the same juggernaut that they once were. We're
Speaker 1: seeing Julio Reis the line right before our eyes. We're
Speaker 1: seeing him get beaten the hell up by the Baltimore Orioles, which,
Speaker 1: in the Orioles credit have a great offense. But this
Speaker 1: has been continuous starts of a guy who finished second
Speaker 1: in Analysai Young voting, who's now rocking an era in
Speaker 1: the mid fours, and it's not looking like it's getting
Speaker 1: any better. It may by the end of the season,
Speaker 1: but right now it's not. They have issues the Diamondbacks. Again,
Speaker 1: we talk about a team that I think is due
Speaker 1: for regression. Are they going to run away with the division?
Speaker 1: Probably not. They're a great team, They're probably end up
Speaker 1: making the playoffs, but you know they're not perfect. So
Speaker 1: the Giants I think see a reasonable window of making
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So I understand being aggressive buyers, but I
Speaker 1: think their main issue right now is the bats. Right
Speaker 1: They're getting production from guys but one through nine in
Speaker 1: their offense, Like when you get down to the six hitters,
Speaker 1: it just gets a little bit boring down there. And
Speaker 1: I know the Cardinals would be willing to part with bats.
Speaker 1: And when I look at a Giant system. I see
Speaker 1: a lot of really really good arms. So my galaxy
Speaker 1: brain was thinking, well, the Cardinals want to get rid
Speaker 1: of a guy, not get rid, but they're willing to
Speaker 1: trade a guy like Tyler O'Neill, and they have Mason
Speaker 1: Wynn coming up the pipeline. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: longer they're gonna stick with Paul de Young. I know
Speaker 1: he's available too, So I was trying to workshop a trade,
Speaker 1: a big time trade with Tyler O'Neill and Paul Deong
Speaker 1: heading to San Francisco because Brandon again, sorry.
Speaker 4: That's like an oxy moron.
Speaker 3: What big time trade with Paul de Youong and Tyler
Speaker 3: O'Neill headed to San Francisco.
Speaker 1: I think that's a big time trade. Paul de Young
Speaker 1: is having a pretty solid season for the Cardinals this year,
Speaker 1: and Tyler O'Neal has it has a lot of upside
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 4: I think, does he like do people even still look
Speaker 4: at him like that at this point anymore?
Speaker 2: I watched him get blown up by Kyle Nicholas and
Speaker 2: Triple a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: All right, so maybe it's not a big time trade.
Speaker 1: I still think it's a pretty sizable deal. No, You're
Speaker 1: getting two big leaguers that play every day exactly so,
Speaker 1: and they could use some outfield help and they could
Speaker 1: use some infield help. So I'm just trying to workshop
Speaker 1: what kind of prospects would be going over in a
Speaker 1: deal like that, because maybe it's not a blockbuster. Maybe
Speaker 1: people are more down on Tyler O'Neill, but maybe he
Speaker 1: just needs a change his scenery. Maybe in his head,
Speaker 1: Olie Marmal got in his head and he's just kind
Speaker 1: of not checked out. But I don't think he's fully
Speaker 1: checked in with the way the Cardinal season is gone
Speaker 1: and then your manager calling you out for not hustling,
Speaker 1: Maybe could just use a change of scenery. And I
Speaker 1: still do see a ton of talent in there, and
Speaker 1: Paul Deung is a serviceable big leaguer. So those two
Speaker 1: guys heading to San Francisco, what would it cost? I
Speaker 1: guess is my problem because I'm not truly sure, But
Speaker 1: I think those two pieces make a lot of sense
Speaker 1: for San Francisco, right.
Speaker 2: I think we initially laughed at the message because you
Speaker 2: had wizen Hunt in that deal, and that would be
Speaker 2: like addressed if I'm if I'm San Francisco, I'm not
Speaker 2: moving wizen Hunt for.
Speaker 1: Anybody phenomenal futures game. I was thinking, like, maybe would
Speaker 1: Carson wizen Hunt, maybe by himself do it for those
Speaker 1: two big leaguers Probably a little bit too much too.
Speaker 2: And the thing is like he looks better than Kyle
Speaker 2: Harrison does this year, just objectively better, like he may
Speaker 2: could he hop Harrison arm?
Speaker 4: It's possible.
Speaker 3: I mean, if Harrison keeps walking seven for nine that
Speaker 3: The crazy thing is this, Kyle Harrison's a year younger
Speaker 3: than him in a so and Kyle Harrison's strikeout numbers
Speaker 3: are still absurdity.
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll ever fully fully pass him,
Speaker 3: but he's definitely the second best arm in the system.
Speaker 1: But pretty margin, we'll surround it around Reggie Crawford. Oh right,
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to Crawford. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it would be more underwhelming than you think. I think
Speaker 1: it could be a Mason Black, Vaughan Brown, Haido Pomaris trade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be a lot, I think, But like, is
Speaker 2: that a needle mover?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, these these prospects are good,
Speaker 1: but you're getting too MLB ready obviously MLB ready players,
Speaker 1: you know, does months, in my opinion, have ulsar upside.
Speaker 2: What's hard for me is like how badly did the
Speaker 2: San Francisco Giants want to win in twenty three? Like
Speaker 2: we've talked about how much money they have coming off
Speaker 2: the books, Like they may just look at this like, hey, cool,
Speaker 2: we're winning, We're contending for a wildcard spot. Just wait
Speaker 2: till twenty four when we throw eight hundred million thousand
Speaker 2: dollars at everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think if you're a free agent too,
Speaker 1: do you want to go to a team that you
Speaker 1: know is clearing the books and maybe they make a
Speaker 1: bunch of moves next year?
Speaker 2: So I get what you're saying there, but think about
Speaker 2: like Texas got yes is from Corey Seger and Semion
Speaker 2: in that same scenario books clear starting from scratch. You
Speaker 2: want to be a part of this?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just think Ben Ark could go, Ben Arc
Speaker 1: could go. Yeah. Is Reggie Crawford so untouchable that just
Speaker 1: like a package just with him for those two guys
Speaker 1: is just way overdoing it?
Speaker 4: Like easy?
Speaker 3: They just drafted him in the first round off TJ
Speaker 3: and he's you just got promoted to hya he's hitting
Speaker 3: and pitching. I think that you know, they just invested
Speaker 3: a lot of money into him, probably want to see
Speaker 3: what he can do. But I think Paul De Young's
Speaker 3: gonna get his option to clin next year, so you're
Speaker 3: gonna get him for a couple of months in decline
Speaker 3: the option, and then Tyler O'Neill you would have for
Speaker 3: the rest of this year, assuming he's healthy, and then
Speaker 3: next year. But they also are attached to Mitch Tanneger,
Speaker 3: another often injured outfielder, for the next several years as well.
Speaker 2: And they have a mutual on Conforta. Do we know
Speaker 2: it's not a player. It's a mutual, right.
Speaker 3: I think it's a mutual, So it's it's a little crowded,
Speaker 3: but I I do think if they did, like ben
Speaker 3: Nar and somebody else, I think that the Cardinals would
Speaker 3: take that and run for Paul De Young and Tyler O'Neill.
Speaker 2: At this point, it's a player at eighteen for Conflorido,
Speaker 2: and I think he might opt into one year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely will opt into that.
Speaker 2: He did me. That sounds great. Eight dollars.
Speaker 1: That sounds great for a guy like Michael Colflorido. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: just trying to think because they do need bats, Cardinals
Speaker 1: are willing to deal bats. Farronse Adi said he would
Speaker 1: be aggressive and maybe, like, you guys are much deeper
Speaker 1: into the prospect stuff, so I refer to your guys'
Speaker 1: opinion on each individual guy whether he makes sense. I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at tiers of prospects and who potentially could
Speaker 1: make sense for a guy with all star level upside
Speaker 1: and a Paul de Young who's definitely better than Brandon
Speaker 1: Crawford is right now. And like, if farronse AIDI didn't
Speaker 1: come out and say that he would be aggresive buyers,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be looking to aggressively buy for the San
Speaker 1: Francisco Giants. But now I'm looking too aggressively by and
Speaker 1: those two guys immediately impact the lineup. It's just with
Speaker 1: you guys, it's tough. Every prospect's amazing.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you're not, Yeah, you're not trading a
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two first round pick for Paul de Young
Speaker 3: and Tyler O'Neal.
Speaker 1: Like, we're actually like Tyler o'neils chop liver over here,
Speaker 1: he kind of is. I don't think he's chopped liver
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think.
Speaker 2: His value is lower than Dylan Carlson.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I mean Dylan Carlson, you know, much younger,
Speaker 1: more years of control, and.
Speaker 2: Way less volatile too. Like Tyler O'Neal could strike out
Speaker 2: thirty five percent of the time.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, but Tyler O'Neil is also the guy that
Speaker 1: could completely switch it around and be the four star
Speaker 1: caliber outfielder. It's kind of like it's a big upside
Speaker 1: pick for the Giants. It's not quite swinging for the fences,
Speaker 1: but it could end up being that piece that puts
Speaker 1: you over the edge. Right.
Speaker 3: I just think the ship is kind of sailed, Like
Speaker 3: we had one good year from him and that's it.
Speaker 3: He was bad and twenty nineteen stint, he was bad
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, he was good and really good in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one while striking out thirty one percent of
Speaker 3: the time, then.
Speaker 4: Bad last year and bad and hurt this year.
Speaker 3: So I got I don't I don't know if anybody
Speaker 3: really wants Tyler O'Neil at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but have you seen his body?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Have you he's so hot. I I have.
Speaker 4: Seventy WRC plus and eight triple a games as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was striking out a billion times. And Indy
Speaker 2: last week it was it was fascinating before we hoped
Speaker 2: to arms next trade. Jared Kelnick broke his foot after
Speaker 2: kicking a water cooler last night. According to Ryan.
Speaker 4: Divish, Dude, are you serious?
Speaker 1: That's really yeah, that's really bad. I mean, do we
Speaker 1: just sell Mariners stock at this point? I mean what
Speaker 1: are we doing? I mean they're not even pitching well,
Speaker 1: like the bullpen is imploding, They're not hitting at this point.
Speaker 1: It's like we keep HIPing them up. We keep hyping
Speaker 1: them up. And it's honestly, when I say we it's
Speaker 1: mostly led by me.
Speaker 4: We're all in.
Speaker 2: And when Kirby goes seven innings a one run ball
Speaker 2: tonight against Minnesota, I'm all the way back in.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then Pablo goes seven innings to shut out
Speaker 1: because Americas can't hit.
Speaker 2: The Twins, and coltland Wong goes oh for four with five.
Speaker 1: It's like Georgia Courber is probably gonna pitch great, like
Speaker 1: Luis Castillo pitched pretty well. They still lost six to
Speaker 1: three because Munjos came in and blew it and Tom
Speaker 1: Murphy dropped the ball. For a pass ball and the
Speaker 1: Twins ended up winning, thankfully for me. I was on
Speaker 1: Twins Mondy because I'm watching the Maritors. I'm like, even
Speaker 1: with your best arms, like what your minas won sixty favorites,
Speaker 1: They're just not as good as I want them to be.
Speaker 1: And there I said it. They're not as good as
Speaker 1: I want them to be. Mariners fans. And your fricking
Speaker 1: lefty who looked like Babe Ruth through April and May
Speaker 1: has now started striking out all the time. And they
Speaker 1: just kicked a water cooler and he broke his foot.
Speaker 1: Julie Rodriguez, I'm waiting, Typhrien, waiting, waiting, waiting the league leaders.
Speaker 1: That strikeouts is like it's bad hip up there hitting.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Cal raw He does kind of look at.
Speaker 4: He does kind of look.
Speaker 2: Like me up there, honestly, man, all right, what's your
Speaker 2: next one?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: The banners are really running my day.
Speaker 4: It's really I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1: Peter I took off my Mariners, had to put on
Speaker 1: my just baseball hat.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send Aaron Savali to the Arizona Diamondbacks because
Speaker 3: they just need they just need some some depth.
Speaker 4: They just need an arm h.
Speaker 3: And I think they need some control. So I'm sending
Speaker 3: Aaron Savali to the d Backs going the other way.
Speaker 3: There's a few different ways we can workshop this one,
Speaker 3: but I think A J. Vukovich is a perfect trade chip.
Speaker 1: Too much, that's that's too much.
Speaker 3: Well, you got multiple years of control, multiple years of
Speaker 3: control of Savali. He's pitching really well this year. I
Speaker 3: look at what the d Backs could part with. I
Speaker 3: think Vukovich is a guy that's performing at a high level.
Speaker 4: You could move maybe, you mean when if.
Speaker 3: It requires it, But he's kind of pitching out of
Speaker 3: his mind right now. I'd move him in this deal.
Speaker 3: I would, But even if that's too much, you could
Speaker 3: do like a Justin Martinez Slay Chaconi and then aj Vukovic,
Speaker 3: like any kind of combination of that. I think Chacconi's
Speaker 3: a guy that'll really benefit from getting out of the PCO,
Speaker 3: and I think the Guardians could help unlock something with him.
Speaker 3: He's kind of a Dada darling pitcher still just turned
Speaker 3: twenty four. I think Chaconi and Vukovich for Savali could
Speaker 3: get it done.
Speaker 1: You see, like this podcast isn't doing enough numbers right now?
Speaker 1: How about Corbyn, Carroll In, Gavin Williams, bow Naylor and
Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez. Let's just fuck some shit up.
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. I think I think that's
Speaker 2: not sexy enough. So let's put a kuna on the Yankees.
Speaker 2: Yes for and harr perfect. No. I think that's a
Speaker 2: good deal. I think it gets it done. I do
Speaker 2: you think you have to add Savally is a guy
Speaker 2: that honestly looked like a DFA candidate not long ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know Savale's value, to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, do you think you need to add more
Speaker 2: than Vukevich? I don't think you do.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Peter, where do you value Aaron Savally?
Speaker 3: I know you're you're you're You're Guardians correspondent.
Speaker 1: I've watched way too many of their fucking games this year.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Yeah, how much would you what would you
Speaker 3: give up for an on your team if you need
Speaker 3: a pitching It's so funny.
Speaker 1: There's a part of me that would rather have Ern
Speaker 1: Savali than Lucas Gilido. I mean, I think Aaron Savally
Speaker 1: is is just very safe. I think he gets you
Speaker 1: through in it.
Speaker 4: I think he just keeps.
Speaker 1: All on the ground and he allows himself contact and
Speaker 1: he's just He's just I can put my head on
Speaker 1: the pillow and know that Aeron Savali is pitching, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got a chance to win. I know,
Speaker 1: I said that on the last podcast. Look as Giltto,
Speaker 1: there's always the chance of just getting fucked. On Savali,
Speaker 1: there's way less of that chance. So I think he's
Speaker 1: actually gonna garner a bigger return than we think because
Speaker 1: I think he's just a solid ass pitcher and kind
Speaker 1: of has been solid except for these like stretches where
Speaker 1: he looked obviously hurt, like this stuff was down. He
Speaker 1: didn't look like himself, But he is looking like himself
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I think Eron Savally, I like that
Speaker 1: you mentioned Hi Marton because I think he might be
Speaker 1: the most underrated arm at this deadline that's gonna get
Speaker 1: a bigger return than people might think.
Speaker 3: Well, because to your point, he's one of the only
Speaker 3: guys with control too that are probably gonna get moved.
Speaker 3: So you know, I was looking at the Reds and
Speaker 3: I'm like, the Reds aren't gonna give up what they
Speaker 3: you know, what's necessary to get somebody like Savali, I
Speaker 3: think they want to rental one. Honestly, I know you
Speaker 3: look surprised with that point by Peter Jack, but like
Speaker 3: I actually agree Giulito. I don't feel good about every
Speaker 3: fifth day. I mean, and I know he has better
Speaker 3: better peaks, like the peaks are definitely better, but I
Speaker 3: don't really need peaks as much. If I'm the d Backs,
Speaker 3: I need someone to help me kind of get to
Speaker 3: the promised land and then you know, in the playoffs,
Speaker 3: just seven arm that I know if he has to
Speaker 3: come in, and if he isn't going to totally cook
Speaker 3: me when it comes to, you know, putting him in,
Speaker 3: Like I know he's not gonna just cook me. I
Speaker 3: can lean on somebody like Zach Gollan, I can lean
Speaker 3: on a healthy maryle Kelly and go from there. I
Speaker 3: think it's Vukovic and then with the control, I think
Speaker 3: Slay CHACONI I'm gonna stick with that one. I think
Speaker 3: that's a pretty pretty darn good return for the d
Speaker 3: Backs or excuse me, for the Guardians, because they get
Speaker 3: a guy that can play all over, has been really
Speaker 3: producing offensively, really good athlete. He was a big time
Speaker 3: football and basketball player in Vukovic and then DRACONI. I'm
Speaker 3: telling you they'll turn him into a four or five
Speaker 3: type pretty easily. And he's close to big league retty,
Speaker 3: so just another arm for them in the fold.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, yes, and you guys sold me. I think
Speaker 2: that I was victim of sex appeal when it came
Speaker 2: to di Alito's name, because gi Alito was like good
Speaker 2: at one point, and Savali has never been really good
Speaker 2: at one point. He's just been like yeah.
Speaker 1: Fally no, yeah, those boring guys, but like sometimes boring pays.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like give me five.
Speaker 2: Especially on the hills, especially on the mound.
Speaker 1: Just so safe and just pretty good. Like Jilido. I
Speaker 1: don't think his peaks are enough to like vault the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks to another level, but his valleys could end up
Speaker 1: really hurting you so bad valleys.
Speaker 2: Best peak in baseball so far this year probably Lance
Speaker 2: ln and a tech performance. Right. The peaks are peaks
Speaker 2: are hot as fuck for Lance Linn.
Speaker 1: Okay, at one game or the Meridor starters and bullpen
Speaker 1: all pitch well and they hit that one time.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, crazy, I bought it. Okay, uh my last one.
Speaker 2: We each have one more Tim Anderson's on the move.
Speaker 2: Tim Anderson has to be on the move. Tim Anderson
Speaker 2: is a shell of the value of what he held
Speaker 2: coming into this year. I think this is the chance
Speaker 2: for one of the best teams in baseball to go
Speaker 2: at a shortstop. And I think the Dodgers are still
Speaker 2: perfect for Tim Anderson. I don't think they need to
Speaker 2: pay much at all. And I think the White Sox
Speaker 2: fans are gonna be pissed. And I think that Rick
Speaker 2: han is initially going to ask for a lot because
Speaker 2: of the name recognition of Tim Anderson and the team
Speaker 2: USA second baseman Tim Anderson. But that's not the Tim
Speaker 2: Anderson you're getting right now. And if there's any team
Speaker 2: that can take Tim Anderson and turn him back into
Speaker 2: that batting title guy, I think we know who it is.
Speaker 2: It's the team that turned Jason Hayward back into an
Speaker 2: eight hundred ops guy. So ta to the Dodgers. Four
Speaker 2: frosso straight up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of those moves where I'm okay
Speaker 1: giving trash and Frosto's not trash. Tim Anderson has been
Speaker 1: horrible and not just oh, you know, he's having a
Speaker 1: down year. He's been arguably baseball's worst player, like you
Speaker 1: do not have to give up much for him, and
Speaker 1: White Sox fans like, oh, now we're going to sell
Speaker 1: him right like not after he hit three thirty, Now
Speaker 1: we're going to sell. But he's hitting two forty. Oh,
Speaker 1: White Sox fans, I'm sorry. And also just before we
Speaker 1: keep moving on and you know how we were slurping
Speaker 1: Spencer Schreider six innings, four earned. Dimbacks are now winning
Speaker 1: five to three. Gallot out dealinggum.
Speaker 4: Was it a home run?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Home run?
Speaker 1: See exactly what happened? So the d Backs home run
Speaker 1: by Emmanuel Rivera three run bomb off Strider or oh no,
Speaker 1: it might have been his just third of the year.
Speaker 1: We're not watching. Don't sue me. We got Emmanuel Rivera, Corbyn,
Speaker 1: Carrol Off, Kirbyates whatever he blew.
Speaker 2: Its scoring plays right now. Dominic Canzone first big league
Speaker 2: homer in the seven. It took it to the seventh.
Speaker 2: Bottom six. Gallon allowed a solo shots to Orlando Arcia.
Speaker 2: Can Zone first big league home off. Uh yeah, off Strider.
Speaker 2: That was a three run shot, and then solo homer
Speaker 2: for Emmanuel Rivera a hit her later.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, until he gets killed man it's that's the
Speaker 3: only way you gotta catch one. By the way, Elie
Speaker 3: de la Cruz just threw a ball ninety nine point
Speaker 3: eight miles per.
Speaker 2: Hour relay on a relay awesome.
Speaker 1: I hate the way Twitter sometimes acts about Ellie de
Speaker 1: la Cruz, not when he does good things. I think
Speaker 1: everybody you know rallies around those good things, except for
Speaker 1: some people, like he'll do something and we'll tweet out,
Speaker 1: like Ellie day la Cruz, look at this throw, how
Speaker 1: amazing is Just watch this clip and people like yabab
Speaker 1: be struck out your bat before yeah got off, dude, Like,
Speaker 1: just shut up, just watch the cool highlight you yeahad
Speaker 1: I hate that.
Speaker 4: I agree, No, that that's that's Bad's absolute facts.
Speaker 2: You think Anderson for frostso is fair?
Speaker 4: I almost think it's an overlay.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna, honestly, for Tim Anderson, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give you the same treatment that I just gave Peter.
Speaker 3: I honestly think that's an overpay because, like, honestly, Frosso
Speaker 3: is seen by some as like a top one hundred guy, and.
Speaker 2: Who is taking on ta who want a team that
Speaker 2: doesn't need him? Frankly, who else is.
Speaker 3: So if I offer, if I offer Land and Knack,
Speaker 3: who's beating it. Who's coming in and beating my offer?
Speaker 2: Probably the fucking Mets.
Speaker 1: I just spit, almost spit out by water, because we're
Speaker 1: talking about in twenty twenty three that a guy who
Speaker 1: almost is a top one hundred is an overpay for
Speaker 1: Tim Anderson, like just the free fall. I know that,
Speaker 1: I know so sad.
Speaker 3: And also the other point, and I'm really glad what
Speaker 3: that we've had these conversations because like I've been just
Speaker 3: digging into this for months now. I think it's really
Speaker 3: good that we've just had these thought exercises because I
Speaker 3: don't think people realize most of these assets aren't that
Speaker 3: good at the trade deadline, Like it's good players that
Speaker 3: can help you, but from a pure trade value perspective,
Speaker 3: most of these guys aren't worth much and they're either underperforming,
Speaker 3: they're hurt, or they don't have control or all of it.
Speaker 3: And so you're in a spot here where, like I
Speaker 3: know we're wired to like trade top prospects, but I
Speaker 3: actually think this is gonna be one of the deadlines
Speaker 3: where notable players will get moved, but the returns are
Speaker 3: gonna be asked, and everyone's gonna be like what the hell?
Speaker 1: And you know what, the more I think about this,
Speaker 1: the more I think these notable players, gams are gonna
Speaker 1: get on the phone and the gms are gonna be
Speaker 1: like arm and be like we're not gonna give you
Speaker 1: what you want, and nothing's gonna fucking happen. Like everyone
Speaker 1: gets so excited every trade deadline, like Otani's gonna get traded.
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna pitch and Otani trade and next thing
Speaker 1: we know, he's just not traded because already, Marna, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it in a little bit. But a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys just don't get moved, Like Aaron
Speaker 1: Savali gets moved and that that's the deadline, and Jason
Speaker 1: Foley like a lot of teams unload bullpen arms and
Speaker 1: like that's it, Like that's sometimes what happens at these
Speaker 1: deadlines is that a lot of top players are put
Speaker 1: in articles for clicks. One of them gets traded, a
Speaker 1: couple of three four starters gets traded, and a couple
Speaker 1: of big bullpen pieces get traded for actual good prospects,
Speaker 1: and then we react to them and we're like, why
Speaker 1: they trade that prospect, that prospects ends up being good,
Speaker 1: and then that's the trade deadline. So it's fun to
Speaker 1: talk about and you know, throw rumors out there, but
Speaker 1: really what we're left with that most trade deadlines is
Speaker 1: a fuck ton of nothing. That's normally what happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talk about trade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but now let's let's segue to the trade of
Speaker 3: the best player of all time.
Speaker 2: If you want to save the Otani one for last yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so arm you go.
Speaker 3: So this is this is a rental move too, but
Speaker 3: this will probably be one of the most expensive rental
Speaker 3: moves out there, and I think there's a team that
Speaker 3: can justify it very easily. I know the Padres are
Speaker 3: were plying better right now, and I just I'm I
Speaker 3: want to see them kind of fall apart so that
Speaker 3: this trade can go down, because this trade would amp
Speaker 3: me up.
Speaker 4: Blake's now to the Orioles. I just I would love
Speaker 4: that more than anything.
Speaker 3: And I think with where the Orioles are at in
Speaker 3: terms of how they're performing this season, on top of
Speaker 3: the fact that their system is so damn good, I
Speaker 3: think they can pay for the steepest rental. Like if
Speaker 3: you're the Reds you're not paying for the steepest rental.
Speaker 3: If you're you know, some of these other teams that
Speaker 3: are playing well, even the Giants, like, you're not paying
Speaker 3: for the steepest rental. I really think it makes sense
Speaker 3: for the O's and they can even consider extending him.
Speaker 3: He's going to be a free agent again. It's another
Speaker 3: trial period for the Orioles. I would love to see
Speaker 3: the O's go get Snell and give up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of what a couple months of
Speaker 3: one of the guy that's pitching like one of the
Speaker 3: best pitchers in baseball may look like it's ultimately just
Speaker 3: going to be a bidding war. But if I offer
Speaker 3: Connor Norby and you know, a solid mid level prospect,
Speaker 3: is anyone going to top that for a couple months
Speaker 3: of blake'snew.
Speaker 2: Would you do Norby and McDermott. Yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know who's topping that.
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone really could.
Speaker 3: And the Orioles wouldn't even feel it, not, not not even remotely.
Speaker 2: They might that they made the trait, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: it still won't do it.
Speaker 1: They still won't do it. Knowing the Orioles even though
Speaker 1: that makes total sense that they should.
Speaker 4: They'll say, now it's two months, we don't We're building
Speaker 4: for the future here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like McDermott and Norby is a great return for
Speaker 3: a rental, like unbelievable return. So I'm about a guy
Speaker 3: that in Norby that could play second base for them
Speaker 3: tomorrow if they needed it. And you know, you're you're
Speaker 3: seeing somebody like, uh, why am I John a blank?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Jake crodin Worth struggling like pretty badly. I think they
Speaker 3: could just use another solid infield back. We'll see if
Speaker 3: they're going to retain uh, we'll see if they retain
Speaker 3: Hassum Kim after this year. But again, I think it's
Speaker 3: just good to get a good bat and just a
Speaker 3: solid prospect. But even if it's not Norby, like, you
Speaker 3: could interchange a lot of different other you know, prospects
Speaker 3: that are kind of in that range, and Judd Fabian
Speaker 3: may be of interest. There's I think they could especially
Speaker 3: after drafting drafting somebody in that plays the outfield as well.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that that kind of makes it
Speaker 3: feel a little bit better. They went out and you know,
Speaker 3: they've they've drafted several of hitters still in Beavers, and
Speaker 3: then I don't know, I just feel like I feel
Speaker 3: like they're kind of fine in the outfield, So especially
Speaker 3: after drafting Bradfield, they might just be fine. And and
Speaker 3: they're loaded out there right now. Could be a good
Speaker 3: time to catch it on Fabian and you know, but
Speaker 3: it might be a lot for rental.
Speaker 1: Tony time.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: So I have two teams that we've talked about before
Speaker 1: that I want to workshop what they could do. But
Speaker 1: I want to kind of talk about what I've been
Speaker 1: hearing about the Otawni trade in general. So Artie Moreno,
Speaker 1: the owner of the Los Angeles Angels, says that he
Speaker 1: does not want to trade Otanni to the Dodgers. He
Speaker 1: has come out and he's basically said, we are not
Speaker 1: trading him to our neighbor. We're just not going to
Speaker 1: do it right. And I even if it like impacts
Speaker 1: the team more, even if they could give the best offer,
Speaker 1: they just don't want to train him to the Dodters.
Speaker 1: So I kind of took the Dodgers out of the equation.
Speaker 1: Another team that we talked about, the Rangers. I cannot
Speaker 1: see them trading sho Hao Tani within the division. I
Speaker 1: just cannot see it right. The Yankees have been floated.
Speaker 1: The Yankees suck. They're not fucking trading for Otani. They
Speaker 1: just aren't. If they do, I would love that would
Speaker 1: be the most love of being wrong of all time.
Speaker 2: You guys should fucking boom him after a week.
Speaker 1: I know, after a week he give them two ruds
Speaker 1: and six innings that we boom off the field, he'd
Speaker 1: probably want to leave it their reside anyway. So he's
Speaker 1: not getting traded to the Yankees. So who are the
Speaker 1: two other teams that make a lot of sense? The
Speaker 1: Giants and the Rays? And we could definitely workshop those
Speaker 1: two teams. But I got a plums pick, I got
Speaker 1: a classic Peter Apple. Ain't gonna happen. But it's a
Speaker 1: damn fun conversation and it kind of makes sense. The
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies. Oh and I'll tell you why. So First,
Speaker 1: Dave Dombrowski is a crazy man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he he.
Speaker 1: Doesn't give a shit about leveraging the farm and giving
Speaker 1: up for a big piece like Otani. Like I bet
Speaker 1: Dave Dombrowski is sitting in his office right now and
Speaker 1: being like nobody's talking about us, and he's just there's
Speaker 1: something brewing in that stomach of his. And to add
Speaker 1: O Tawni to the fold with this Phillies team that
Speaker 1: is just on the rise, that could be one of
Speaker 1: the things where it's like, yeah, we made it to
Speaker 1: the World Series. We're trying to win this shit this year.
Speaker 1: So I could see Dave Dombrowski, And remember, Dave Dombrowski
Speaker 1: does things that nobody ever expects and he just overpays,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't make a lot of sense when we're
Speaker 1: talking about logical things.
Speaker 4: No, I'm there that.
Speaker 1: History there between Dobrowski and the Angels. They made a
Speaker 1: trades before, So who are the players that would be involved?
Speaker 1: And remember, if I'm Dave dom Browski, we gotta think
Speaker 1: inside the brain of dumb he's over paying, and I'm
Speaker 1: a guy when we're doing these mock trades, I'm always
Speaker 1: over paying anyway. So yeah, Dobrowski and I could definitely
Speaker 1: go get a beer. We talk about trading everybody out
Speaker 1: to the Sun for showy Otani, So who would be
Speaker 1: those prospects? Painter is getting Tommy John and I just
Speaker 1: don't think the Phillies would trade him, And I think
Speaker 1: I'm putting him out of there. But it has to
Speaker 1: start with Mickabel. It just does like Mickabel another top
Speaker 1: pitching prospect. And if Aaron Nola leaves in free agency,
Speaker 1: I mean the Phillies, like Dobrowski will give Otadi like
Speaker 1: seven hundred trillion dollars. I truly think that he might
Speaker 1: end up doing that. Does it make sense again, probably not.
Speaker 1: Does Dombrowski do things that don't make a lot of sense? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and it works. They go to the World Series. So
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Mickabel and then this is where I need
Speaker 1: your guys's help. But if the Phillies were to trade
Speaker 1: for Otani Mickabel, like, would they put Griff McGarry in there?
Speaker 1: And then would it be a guy like Roha who's
Speaker 1: an outfielder's twenty two years old?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's actually good. That was pretty solid.
Speaker 3: It's so much, it's so much it has to be.
Speaker 1: For a rental, but like it's it's the greatest player
Speaker 1: in team sports. I said that on Twitter and people
Speaker 1: were like, what about Connor McDavid. Connor McDavid, Yeah, is
Speaker 1: he the greatest goalie in hockey?
Speaker 2: He's not even a goalie. He doesn't move exactly.
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying if he was also the one of
Speaker 1: the best hockey Yeah, right, Like it's not Yannis, it's
Speaker 1: not your kitsch, it's not Mahomes, it's Mahomes. Mahomes. No, No,
Speaker 1: because how the defense, How's how's mahomes ability to play cornerbacker, linebacker?
Speaker 1: This is the greatest player in team sports. So it
Speaker 1: is a rental. And Dombrowski just feels like that dude
Speaker 1: that nobody's talking about, I'm like, we got it. We
Speaker 1: got to bring him up somehow because there's no way
Speaker 1: that he is a good See.
Speaker 3: We have had him draft way too quiet. It's a
Speaker 3: good point, like we've walked nobody to the Phillies. They're
Speaker 3: playing good ball, they're in the high they're gonna do
Speaker 3: some shit. Yeah, Like Dobrowski's probably itching to give up
Speaker 3: Ben Brown for Robertson again. He's itching to do something
Speaker 3: like that. Who Jack just saw a shove the other day.
Speaker 2: Shove.
Speaker 1: There's a NEBRASKI doesn't even know who bick Able is.
Speaker 1: He's just a tab on a piece of payper And
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, yeah, he's got a great number. Is perfect.
Speaker 1: Let's give for let's give for Otai. He's the George Steinbrenner.
Speaker 1: That's what I miss with the Yankees. Cash Man's like, oh,
Speaker 1: our eighth and ninth ranked prospects, I'm pretty close fucking
Speaker 1: shut up, Nerd trade some of these prospects for big
Speaker 1: time guys. That's why I like Dombrowski and I'm a
Speaker 1: Phillies guy now way.
Speaker 2: So do you think perryman Asian would do this. I'll
Speaker 2: give you Otani, but I need able. I don't want
Speaker 2: other prospects though, I want a big leaguer. Give me
Speaker 2: Mick Abel and Bryson Stott for Otani.
Speaker 1: I was thinking that, and that just made my stomach
Speaker 1: turn because I love Bryson Stott and like or that.
Speaker 1: Josh Harrison's your second basement in the World Series. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe Josh Harrison's been in some great rundowns.
Speaker 2: Sosa is your second of the World Series. Yeah, Sorber
Speaker 2: can play second. Yeah, actually no, you.
Speaker 4: Would back behind the dish.
Speaker 2: Yes, Schwarbert Catcher as soon as Harper's ucl is fine,
Speaker 2: put him at third and put Bom at short.
Speaker 1: Fuck it, we're just gonna hit. Yeah, we'll get up
Speaker 1: the ruds. We just got out hit him.
Speaker 3: JT was drafted as a short stop. Maybe they could
Speaker 3: stick him there.
Speaker 2: Do you think like I could. I could absolutely see
Speaker 2: Perry Manassian doing that and saying like, we need a big.
Speaker 1: Leaguer, would it be? I mean, do you think no,
Speaker 1: they won't? Like but I think I'm just looking at
Speaker 1: the rotation, like if the Angels want an arm two
Speaker 1: ready now, Like, it's not Nolah Wheeler, Like I know
Speaker 1: it's not Sures either, it's not. Obviously it's not. It's
Speaker 1: a Christopher Sanchez that ain't that ain't pushing the button.
Speaker 1: So it's like, is it Ranger?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Because no, So it has to be these prospects. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, like we can workshop the Rais and
Speaker 1: the Giants, right they could actually make it off or
Speaker 1: that makes sense for the podcast help us sleep at night,
Speaker 1: be like, oh we were so safe with that one.
Speaker 1: Great job boys, you know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: think the Phillies could really make a splash here. It's
Speaker 1: just it's one of those teams that's too damn quiet
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: Well, I will say this too, Mick Abel's a really
Speaker 3: talented arm and top one hundred prospect, no doubt, but
Speaker 3: he's not like in this tier of his own, like
Speaker 3: Andrew Paynter even without the Tommy John Like, I'm not
Speaker 3: trading him in and Otani rental deal because Painter is
Speaker 3: was right there with Yuri.
Speaker 4: They were neck and neck, and.
Speaker 1: If trading Holiday and yeah, it's just like.
Speaker 3: It's it just doesn't seem like it makes enough sense
Speaker 3: unless you're getting a superstar for four or five years.
Speaker 3: So you know, if it was a Sodo deal, then
Speaker 3: then we're talking. But Abel is struggling with command, like
Speaker 3: the numbers have still not been that great. He could
Speaker 3: figure it out and be a really good starter, but
Speaker 3: there's still plenty of risk there, Like there's a chance
Speaker 3: that you might not even think about it at all
Speaker 3: in a couple of years if you move Able and
Speaker 3: McGarry's another guy with horrible command by the way, uh,
Speaker 3: and then Rojas, like those are three guys that you
Speaker 3: know for the Angels to get that for rental phenomenal
Speaker 3: that's great. Able is instantly their best pitching prospect, and
Speaker 3: you've got, you know, two other pieces that are big
Speaker 3: for you, and Rowas could end up playing center field
Speaker 3: for you. Is Trout maybe starts to slow down and
Speaker 3: move elsewhere in DH A lot so well better than
Speaker 3: trout Now, yeah, maniac is legitimately better.
Speaker 4: But also one more note on this, Peter former.
Speaker 3: The line of communications here, the line of communications here.
Speaker 3: They've traded together. Perry and Dombrowski specifically worked out a
Speaker 3: trade that most teams would not agree to. You know
Speaker 3: how hard it is to get your prospect from my prospect.
Speaker 3: We talk about that all the time, or your youngster
Speaker 3: for my youngster. I always like my youngster more than
Speaker 3: your youngster. And if I don't like my youngster more
Speaker 3: than your youngster, then I'm wary because I'm like, what
Speaker 3: do you know that I don't?
Speaker 4: So that marsh for ohappy swap. I mean there's some.
Speaker 3: Amic ability here, So I'm I'm like, this is your
Speaker 3: some of your best Galaxy brain work, Peter.
Speaker 1: One of them's got a hit.
Speaker 4: Yes, should we fly through like a raise one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Like the Rays actually make.
Speaker 1: The most sense. But I keep thinking to myself, like
Speaker 1: are the Giants you know, according to you guys, every
Speaker 1: Giants prospect is the best player of all time, So
Speaker 1: I can't trade any of those.
Speaker 2: The Rays is the main thing.
Speaker 1: No, No, that's how I heard it, So that's all
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. So the Rays their top prospects,
Speaker 1: No way they can all get traded because they're all
Speaker 1: going to be perennial All Stars too. So the Rays
Speaker 1: and Giants technically can't trade anybody. According to you guys, yeahs.
Speaker 2: To Tampa. This is just off the dome. Otani to
Speaker 2: Tampa for Wander Yes, wander Arose Arena and McClanahan to
Speaker 2: Tampa for Ronda and Ronnie Simon. Is that too much?
Speaker 1: Yeah, people just logged off the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty ass. It's pretty asking for to the
Speaker 3: Phillies offer.
Speaker 1: I know it would have to be Mead and the need.
Speaker 4: Would have to be in there that it'd be like
Speaker 4: Granda Mead and then a piece. And that's honestly pretty
Speaker 4: damn good.
Speaker 1: Junior Cameron. I always saw in the Futures Game that
Speaker 1: dude is a fucking training No, I'm just talking about it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, he's a train engine.
Speaker 4: He's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: He's like just another Yondie, except he played better defense.
Speaker 2: I mean, and he's fucking nineteen and he looks like that.
Speaker 1: Dude's a truck.
Speaker 4: The Rays got him for Tobias Myers from the Guardians.
Speaker 1: You just made it.
Speaker 4: He's pitching.
Speaker 3: Tobias Myers was was a forty It was a forty
Speaker 3: man situation, which is really funny. So the Guardians are like,
Speaker 3: let's let's move an arm because we need to clear
Speaker 3: up some forty man space, and legitimately, just like I
Speaker 3: just excuse me, the Rays, We're like, let's move an arm.
Speaker 4: We need the forty men space. And the Guardians are like, oh,
Speaker 4: we'll take an arm.
Speaker 3: We'll give you a lower level flyer here. You can
Speaker 3: take junior common Arrow, like that's who they ask for,
Speaker 3: and now he's.
Speaker 4: The top five prospect in baseball.
Speaker 3: Tobias Myers is now pitching in Double A, not even
Speaker 3: triple so kind of shows you what's up there.
Speaker 1: I mean, they could trade Carson Williams right shortstop what
Speaker 1: they for thirty years?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I love Carson Williams.
Speaker 3: But in an Otawi deal, one hundred percent, you do
Speaker 3: Ronda Carson Williams and then you can probably keep Meat instead,
Speaker 3: who fits more into it. Positionally, you can play third
Speaker 3: or first or whatever. You trade Carson Williams and Ronda
Speaker 3: and like Mason Montgomery. That's a really damn good offer.
Speaker 1: I think I agree, and then you want to work
Speaker 1: shop the Giants real quick because the Giants are another
Speaker 1: team where I don't see any reason why they couldn't.
Speaker 3: So the reason why I think the Giants should do
Speaker 3: it is I think they're gonna pay.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna make one of the best offers.
Speaker 3: We've talked about how like they've been trying to pay Judge,
Speaker 3: they've been they tried to pay Korea. And if you
Speaker 3: give up the prospect capital, it helps you this year,
Speaker 3: but you also buy that negotiating window for a couple
Speaker 3: of months where you know you could kind of get
Speaker 3: a head start on trying to lock up Otani before
Speaker 3: he hits free agency. I don't know if he'd be
Speaker 3: willing to negotiate through the next couple of months, but
Speaker 3: there's a chance, and you have that negotiating window. Now,
Speaker 3: I'm trading Reggie Crawford Peter Now. Now Reggie Crawford can go.
Speaker 1: I don't know he's hitting and he's a first rounder.
Speaker 4: Yeah he can kick rocks now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for Paul de Young and Tyler O'Neal.
Speaker 1: Surious, just curious, who would you who would the Cardinals
Speaker 1: need to give the Giants for Reggie Crawford because I'm
Speaker 1: a Tyler. I ain't afraid to say it.
Speaker 2: I just am all right Carlson or Aeronato. Oh, Reggie
Speaker 2: Crawford for Carlson, Reggie Crawford for Carlson.
Speaker 3: I think even a little bit more, slightly more Reddie
Speaker 3: Crawford and like a little level piece.
Speaker 1: Okay, No, I would prefer Dylan Carlson over Tyler on Neil.
Speaker 1: I just there's something in there, and maybe it's the body.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm to look at him too much. The pheromones
Speaker 1: are kicking your ass. They are. I fall into it.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a Dobrowski guy, so fall in love.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine the episode when whoever acquires Tyler O'Neill,
Speaker 3: like he goes Mannyville and Los Angeles like like Manny
Speaker 3: Ramirez dead and hits four hundred for like two months,
Speaker 3: and Peter's gonna come back on the podcast and just
Speaker 3: say fuck you.
Speaker 2: I will you know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Let you forget it.
Speaker 2: San Francisco is gonna go get Tyler O'Neal for Carson
Speaker 2: Wizen Hunts straight up, and he's gonna come back and
Speaker 2: flip the bird when we hop on.
Speaker 1: Soon and Carson Wizard is going to suck for the Cardinals. Yes,
Speaker 1: he'll be a libert toward two point oh yeah no,
Speaker 1: but let's finish the giants for a Tawny deal just
Speaker 1: real quick. So it would probably be I mean, it
Speaker 1: would have to be. It's it's show O Tawny, Kyle
Speaker 1: Harrison see you later, or Carson wisdon hud to see
Speaker 1: you later. This is show O Tawni. We're talking about
Speaker 1: Reggie Crawford.
Speaker 4: Come, would you do?
Speaker 2: Would you do Harrison and Crawford for Otani? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's some. No, I think those two.
Speaker 1: Then he's going to Dombrowski because Dombrowski is overpaying.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do Luciano and and and wizden Hunt even
Speaker 3: like I do two of some of those.
Speaker 2: And that's a better return than Harrison and Crawford, Luciano
Speaker 2: and wizen Hunt.
Speaker 4: That's as high as i'd go.
Speaker 2: That's better.
Speaker 4: It's as high as i'd go.
Speaker 1: But then Dombrowski would be like, fine, we'll give you
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper fuck it, yes exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could get stop too.
Speaker 2: All right, take us out, baby boy.
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