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<v Speaker 2>trades today Jack Peter Rhum on the Just Baseball Show

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<v Speaker 2>for Friday, July twenty. First, we've got nine guys that

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<v Speaker 2>we want to move. How are we going to move them?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are we going to move them? You'll find out

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<v Speaker 2>in a little under an hour. We hope maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>little over an hour. I have no idea. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to talk Spencer Strider kicking ass on Thursday afternoon, Shintaro

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<v Speaker 2>Fujinami and his twelve to three through like his first

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen appearances, and then like Lo two's in the next

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<v Speaker 2>ten going to Baltimore, which is really exciting. I also

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<v Speaker 2>have something non baseball off the top that I think

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<v Speaker 1>three fifty to win the division. Felt really good early on,

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<v Speaker 1>but now the Orioles are in first place the day

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<v Speaker 1>might as well bet on them to win the division.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if you like what the Blue Jays have been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've come across a gold mine and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that we have a good presence on TikTok. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>introduce you to Pinky Doll. Now, is this woman a

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<v Speaker 2>U I no exist?

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<v Speaker 4>I saw that. I saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh she is apparently making seven thousand dollars a day

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<v Speaker 2>doing this. So I think if we grab one person

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<v Speaker 2>from our staff to sit on the Just Baseball TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>Live for five hours a day and pretend to lick

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<v Speaker 2>ice cream when somebody sends the ice cream emoji, we

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<v Speaker 1>See what I do is I jump on TikTok Live

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<v Speaker 1>and I run through the games of the day, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of give them my leans, and I'm trying to actually

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<v Speaker 1>make people money. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying my best. She's not trying to make your money.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just stealing your money and then pretending to lick

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<v Speaker 1>an ice cream cones. So you donate a five dollars

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream cone to a person who don't know exists.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they'll get a couple of roses and shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to the people who have donated. But I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>lucky to come out with a TikTok live with like

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<v Speaker 1>eight bucks. She's pulling out five racks.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think I actually think this is the perfect

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<v Speaker 2>activity for Arham. I think aram would be excellent, like

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<v Speaker 2>two to two to five pm, two to six pm

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<v Speaker 2>every day.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's when people are working. He's got to get

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<v Speaker 1>the people, like the people.

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<v Speaker 4>That are watching this aren't working.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're a night owl. No, you're a night owl, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Just go from eleven pm to three am. Get those

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<v Speaker 1>degenerates that are weirdly watching those streams. You could probably

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<v Speaker 1>pull in a ton.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you got the eyelash of the camera. You

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<v Speaker 3>know how much I love the camera. I could I

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<v Speaker 3>could do that, but we'll talk about it. I will

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it. I'll consider it. That's gonna be just

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball premium. You get prospects, right ups and ice cream

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<v Speaker 3>cone liking.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen. We've never really entertained the idea of a paywall.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be our paywall type thing. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing our pinky doll impression behind a paywall, which

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<v Speaker 2>would be great.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, have you seen OnlyFans revenue in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I was losing so many bets there that I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I gotta make money somehow.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's more demand for your bets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, himself, I would hope, So, I would hope. So

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<v Speaker 2>you ready for the corniest transition ever? Yes, that would

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<v Speaker 2>be not safe for work. Spencer Strider right now is

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<v Speaker 2>not safe for Oh that was pretty good grade, real quick. Six.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to give it a letter grade. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we're doing and you know what, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was a strong eight and a half but clever, perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Arm was very like passive with the six.

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<v Speaker 1>I was expecting like a two or three from him.

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<v Speaker 1>So six is great. Spencer Strider. We just watched a sequence.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got nine punchouts for four as we hit the

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<v Speaker 2>record button against Arizona in it LANDA and right before

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<v Speaker 2>we hopped on, we just watched a sequence to open

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the fourth inning. Could tell Marte first

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<v Speaker 2>pitch at the top of the fourth one O nine

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat the other way. Acunya had like his

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<v Speaker 2>play card, like sitting in the heel of his glove

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<v Speaker 2>and he was on a dead sprint. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>really good effort by Acunya. Hit off the edge of

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<v Speaker 2>his glove, you know, kind of sat at the base

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<v Speaker 2>of the wall. Could tell Marty with a leadoff triple

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<v Speaker 2>first pitch of the fourth inning, Strider then strikes out

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<v Speaker 2>Corbyn Carroll and makes him look like a low A ballplayer.

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<v Speaker 2>He strikes out Christian Walker, makes him look like a

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<v Speaker 2>minor leaguer, and then he strikes out Dominic Canzone, who

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<v Speaker 2>is up from triple A. Looked like a triple A guy. Strider.

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<v Speaker 2>They were talking about it on Brandon Goddon and his

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<v Speaker 2>partner were talking about it on Bally Sports South and

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<v Speaker 2>the Braves. Modern era record for k's in a season

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<v Speaker 2>is Smoltz at two sixty seven. Stryder's gonna blow past that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know we did this exercise Peter with Ryan Finkelstein. Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is striking out fourteen per nine in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's gotten blown up at points, but the

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<v Speaker 2>best version of Spencer Stroyder looks like the best pitcher

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>He does do that to us sometimes. I mean, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>five innings, two hits, twelve k's against the Diamondbacks, who

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<v Speaker 1>are no slouch offensively, who won the first two games

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<v Speaker 1>against the Braves. Right we see the Braves as these

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<v Speaker 1>juggernauts who can never lose, who are on pace for

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eight game season, one hundred and eight wins,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Diamonbacks come in there and they're feisty. Then

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you get Strider when he's feeling good, and he

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<v Speaker 1>does look like the best pitcher alive. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>that the start before he got run up on by

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<v Speaker 1>the White Sox. He's been a little bit more inconsistent

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<v Speaker 1>this season, and I think it has a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>do with his velocity. But when you see and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I talked about this, there was one game where

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<v Speaker 1>I faded Spencer Schreider in some form of facet. I

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<v Speaker 1>took an over or something, and it was based on

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<v Speaker 1>Streider's velocity dipping below like ninety six. It wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>typical ninety eight ninety nine at the top of the zone.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he threw his first pitch at ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>in that game that I bet on. Of course, I

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<v Speaker 1>lost it because when Streider has that, it's unbelievable. So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of grimaced when you said I could he

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<v Speaker 1>could beat John Smoltz two hundred and sixty seven. K's

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<v Speaker 1>not because he can't rack up that many cases. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just will the innings be there for him? But in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of a per inning, he's gonna blow past John Smoltz.

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<v Speaker 1>If he threw as many innings as John Smoltz did

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<v Speaker 1>in that season, which I assume was what in the

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<v Speaker 1>two twenties, he'd be well over three hundred strikeouts at

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<v Speaker 1>this pace. It's just in this day and age arm

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<v Speaker 1>our old man thoughts. In this day and age, pitchers

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<v Speaker 1>don't go past the fifth or the sixth inning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Stre's got five IgGs, twelve k's. His pitch

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<v Speaker 1>count is getting up there right now, I still at

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two pitches. He might just throw. He might have

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sharukouts in this game. It's we're speaking right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's for me even more than the velocity.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's like the command of the fastball.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some days where he just gets he just gets

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<v Speaker 3>launched on. Like it's really about the home runs. Twelve

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<v Speaker 3>of his fourteen home runs this year have come on

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<v Speaker 3>the fastball, and if you look at the spots, the

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<v Speaker 3>majority of them are are right down the middle. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the ones that you know kind of were just

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<v Speaker 3>freak swings. One was a Miggie swing that I have

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<v Speaker 3>no idea how he did that. It was that one

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<v Speaker 3>that was off the plate inside, and then a couple

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<v Speaker 3>just guys that cheated on on elevated fastballs and hitters counts.

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<v Speaker 3>So for the most part, it's either a guy cheats

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<v Speaker 3>in a hitter's count and gets it or it's missing middle.

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<v Speaker 3>And the vast majority of his home runs are just

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<v Speaker 3>fastballs that miss middle. So that's really it. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>the crazy thing is as long as he keeps the

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<v Speaker 3>ball in the yard like he's going to give you

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<v Speaker 3>a quality start, and it just seems like when he's

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<v Speaker 3>one of those guys to the point of being the

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<v Speaker 3>most dominant. When he's locked in, it just seems like

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<v Speaker 3>it's feudal to even try. There's few guys that make

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<v Speaker 3>hitters look as silly as Spencer Strider makes them look.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing, Arma, and I totally agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is more fastball command than straight up velocity.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, when he has ninety nine, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he can get away with middle middle fastballs, like

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it, just blow fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like when he's ninety six and the command

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<v Speaker 1>isn't there, that's when he really can get blown up.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he's ninety nine he can miss middle and

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<v Speaker 1>still get away with it. But these are big league

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<v Speaker 1>hitters who can hit a bullet.

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<v Speaker 2>So and the thing is, I think when he is

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine, if you close your eyes and think about

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer Strider fastballs, you're probably viewing like, hey, top of

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<v Speaker 2>the zone, he's getting swings underneath it, ninety nine, ninety

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<v Speaker 2>eight upstairs. But to Arham's point, like this guy is

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<v Speaker 2>so freaking good when it comes to east to west

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<v Speaker 2>and north to south as well, Like I see so

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<v Speaker 2>many ninety eights dotted on the lower outside corner to

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<v Speaker 2>lefty bats. It's incredible from him when he's right, but

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<v Speaker 2>when he's not right, it's down the deck and its

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<v Speaker 2>bombs away. Courtesius stat Muse top ten in a single

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<v Speaker 2>season for k's per nine among qualified pitchers. Strider in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three would have if the season ended today,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is before this start against Arizona on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>the twentieth fourteen point three case per nine would be

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<v Speaker 2>the major league record. Shane Bieber in twenty twenty is

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<v Speaker 2>two twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Throwout, Yeah, it didn't count.

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<v Speaker 2>Garrett Cole in twenty nineteen with Houston thirteen point eight

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<v Speaker 2>k's pernine. That was like out of body experience the

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<v Speaker 2>entire year. Jacob de Gramm in twenty twenty, throw it

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<v Speaker 2>out the window. Randy Johnson in two thousand and one,

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<v Speaker 2>Pedro Martinez in ninety nine, Chris Sale in seventeen, schures

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<v Speaker 2>Are in nineteen. Like, that's the company that Strider's in

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<v Speaker 2>in year two of his major league career, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is the start that Doc Gooden had. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>we weren't alive for Doc Gooden, but this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I think the old heads of baseball fandom were experiencing

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<v Speaker 2>when they experienced Doc Good and they saw a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that was on the trajectory to become one of the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest came in of all time. And I it sucks

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm gonna bring him up, But I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly the feeling that I had when watching Jose Fernandez

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<v Speaker 2>an arm. I'm sure that's the same thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>felt too.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I mean that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was another one of those guys that when he was on,

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<v Speaker 3>it was like good luck and it was musty te fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's exactly what Strider is. Yeah, you just laugh at

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<v Speaker 3>the pitches that he's making. It's just it's there's a

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<v Speaker 3>different level and there's just like this this laughable factor

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<v Speaker 3>that's certain like just of the top top arms.

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<v Speaker 4>In the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Reached to Graham of course one of those guys too

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<v Speaker 3>that it's to put it into words, but it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like this guy's doing something that few can and Strider

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<v Speaker 3>when he's on, he's one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>On the mound.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also want to shout out just I know

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking a lot about Strider, but in that game

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<v Speaker 1>right now, end of the fifth it is still zero

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<v Speaker 1>zero because Zach Gallen, who is right now the front

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<v Speaker 1>runner for the National League Say Young is also shoving

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<v Speaker 1>against one of the best offenses that we've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>the last half decade. And another guy, Corbyn Burns, just

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<v Speaker 1>continues to dominate one four straight games for the Brewers,

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<v Speaker 1>and with him again. Earlier in the season, his cutter

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<v Speaker 1>velocity was down and so were a lot of his

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<v Speaker 1>different pitches. It didn't have the same zip that it

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<v Speaker 1>normally does. Past four starts, cutter velocity right back up

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<v Speaker 1>to ninety five, and right now he is in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst of a very good start against the Phillies. I

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<v Speaker 1>just looked at there was a runner on first base

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<v Speaker 1>and then I scrolled down two outs media double play.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when he's on I still think he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best pitchers on the planet too. This Day

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<v Speaker 1>in Baseball's were recording during the day games on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>like even Andrew abb It right now is shoving against

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants. Just good pitching. You put out a great

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<v Speaker 1>tweet on Twitter, Jack about uh with I think you

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<v Speaker 1>should leave and what I should mention about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten more dms saying I don't need to watch

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<v Speaker 1>it. It's not as funny as people are saying. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very polarizing show because people are saying it's not funny

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But I also also gotten a couple dms

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<v Speaker 1>and people saying, you have to watch it. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>funniest thing I've ever watched.

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<v Speaker 2>So the YouTube comments say otherwise. I saw a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of YouTube comments saying, you gotta watch it. I will

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<v Speaker 2>tell you my mom, my girlfriend hate it. My dad

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<v Speaker 2>and my brother love it with a burning passion. I

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<v Speaker 2>have several friends that hate it. I have several friends

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<v Speaker 2>that love it. So it's not it's not a cheeseburger, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody is going to have like a passive reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>it. It is very black and white.

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<v Speaker 1>Ar I'm kind of as a passive to cheeseburgers at

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<v Speaker 1>least now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like it. I like it a lot. It's

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<v Speaker 4>it's fun.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I'm not I'm not one of those like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not jack with what I think you should leave.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm one of the rare like it but don't love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys like I enjoy putting it on. But I got

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<v Speaker 3>to be in.

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<v Speaker 2>A certain mood, that's for sure. Yeah, So I had

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<v Speaker 2>no personality before that. So I just kind of viewed

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<v Speaker 2>that show as a chance to give myself a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of personality, and I've ran with it. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I got going on. Spencer Strider generational talent, Tim

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<v Speaker 2>Robinson generational talent, Shintaro Fujinami generational talent. And now he's

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<v Speaker 2>the seventh inning guy for the sixth inn guy for

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<v Speaker 2>the Baltimore Orioles. What's he gonna do here?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was a good move for Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>I really did, because you know, Fuji, I think people

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<v Speaker 2>were quick to make fun of him because he's got

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<v Speaker 2>an era in the eighths, but it was also pretty

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<v Speaker 2>overblown that, like, oh, over his last fourteen appearances, he

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<v Speaker 2>has like nearing a sub too era, like a very

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<v Speaker 2>low twos and you know, he's striking out twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>percent of guys and he's walking eight percent versus like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty compared to twelve percent walk rate in

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<v Speaker 2>a twelve vru through his first you know, sixteen appearances.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's somewhere in the middle, like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>expect lights out set up man Shintaro Fujinami. But I

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<v Speaker 2>thought this was a really good middle relief pickup for

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<v Speaker 2>Baltimore down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just oh ahead, go ahead, Peter. No, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna read you on the stats because you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>at the at the top of the episode his stats

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<v Speaker 1>through like his first eighteen games in last sixteen games.

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<v Speaker 1>Foolish Baseball put it out. So in his first eighteen games,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, three time All Star in the MPB. But

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<v Speaker 1>he came over and looked like the worst pitcher that's

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<v Speaker 1>ever told the Rubbers because he was a starter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve to one to ninety RA, twenty percent k rate,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent walk rate. But then in his last sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>games two four five ERA, twenty six percent k rate,

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent walk rate. Location has been much better. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just Oriels. Fans looking for dill See said you got

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<v Speaker 1>Shintaro fu Jadabi instead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you know, I do. I do like the

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<v Speaker 3>move because they literally gave up nothing. They gave up

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<v Speaker 3>Easton Lucas, who's like, you know, a quadruple a depth arms.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Pepperdine.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>All I know is that Easton Lucas was drafted by

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<v Speaker 3>the Marlins, traded for Jonathan VR, who was then traded

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<v Speaker 3>for my friend Gryff and Co. Nine, so indirectly was

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<v Speaker 3>the first domino of bringing Griff to the Marlins.

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<v Speaker 4>But Lucas is throwing well this year, but he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of like a lefty, crafty reliever, Like you throw

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<v Speaker 3>him in in a spot start maybe two.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it really was.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a dump of salary for the Oriole or

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<v Speaker 3>for the A's. I think they wanted to give Fujinami

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<v Speaker 3>a shot. See how it looks. Turns out he's just

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<v Speaker 3>a reliever. It's a one year deal. Go get a

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<v Speaker 3>forty man arm and that's exactly what they did. But

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<v Speaker 3>for Fuji, he has not walked a batter in ten outings,

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<v Speaker 3>which is saying a lot, because you walked a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of batters prior to that. Twelve k's no walks in

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<v Speaker 3>his last ten appearances. The stuff looks good. His fastball's

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<v Speaker 3>average ninety nine point eight miles per hour splitter averages

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<v Speaker 3>ninety three to ninety four over that last ten start span.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if it all clicks for this guy, and we

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<v Speaker 3>know the Orioles had a little bit of a reliever

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<v Speaker 3>lab going, like Fuji could be a nice little pickup

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<v Speaker 3>for them here down down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>I was right fourteenth round pick at a Pepperdine in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen easton Lucas. I gotta get a fucking life, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't know that. I like it. And I saw

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<v Speaker 2>Jenner Cano suck in Saint Paul last year and when

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<v Speaker 2>he had that like crazy start to the end. He's

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<v Speaker 2>an all star with a sub too.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was shocking at the beginning, but then you see

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<v Speaker 2>what Bautista has turned into at the age of what

0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven was his rookie year. Last year, Cano is

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<v Speaker 2>thirty and he's kicking ass like this twenty nine thirty

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<v Speaker 2>like Fujin Nami can absolutely capture some of that magic.

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<v Speaker 2>And being on a good team, I feel like might

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<v Speaker 2>help guys. I don't know, like that's that's just a

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<v Speaker 2>thought there. So I did like that pick up you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nothing. They didn't have to give up any of

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<v Speaker 2>that world class farm. They can still go ad shit.

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<v Speaker 2>My only worry is the Orioles. Fuji's gonna make what

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<v Speaker 2>four and a half for the rest of this year,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe four for the rest of this year. That's four

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars, like they're feeling it. He signed one year nine, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's three to three the rest of the way,

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<v Speaker 2>is it three point three? The rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>My worry, just while you guys look up the contract stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the Orioles are going to keep being the

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<v Speaker 1>Orioles and not trade anybody and not get the big

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<v Speaker 1>time starter. At the deadline it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was one year three point twenty five, so they're literally

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<v Speaker 3>paying him like a million dollars the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>They will feel that too. Who did I actually fuse

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<v Speaker 2>him with one year nine?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. It's so weird. Yeah, man, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know they would have to pay Otani twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my worry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But are you are you guys feeling kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing as me, where the Orioles have all

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<v Speaker 1>these prospects but then just continue to not get at

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<v Speaker 1>the big fish at the deadline, Like, do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>really truly think that this is finally the year where

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<v Speaker 1>they add the big piece? Because I just keep having

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<v Speaker 1>my doubts and it's based on past history. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>do it finally, But after the fud Ghinami deal, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, are we just in the same thing and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like the Orioles absolutely need to add an arm.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be incredibly impactful, and they should, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>not in dire need of one, and they'll probably just

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<v Speaker 1>look at other system being like, I think we're fine

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and the window's just going to continue to open,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't need to add a Dylan Cease right.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need to add to Shane Bieber, We don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to add even a lucasgi Alito. I just keep

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<v Speaker 1>having those thoughts of we always expect the Oriols to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, and then they never actually do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the last time do you know the last

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<v Speaker 2>time Baltimore won the American League East.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a while, but Ooles fans are in first place.

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<v Speaker 1>They're probably loving it right now. The bird bath and

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<v Speaker 1>right field is electric.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my answer. Last time is fourteen, Like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>are on the cusp of doing something you haven't done

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty fourteen, I think now is the time they

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<v Speaker 2>push their chips in.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree that makes logical sense, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, here here's the thing, though, is what's out

0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 3>there if Dylan C's indeed is not available, which is

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked about that, that's insane to me. But if

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<v Speaker 3>he's not available, Dilito doesn't really move the needle.

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 4>Jamont might. I think Jaymn's a guy that could move

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<v Speaker 4>the needle.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you're looking at the rental market. That really

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<v Speaker 3>the only controllable pitcher that can help you this year

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<v Speaker 3>is Dylan Cees that I can think of, Like, is

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Savali gonna do that much for you for.

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<v Speaker 2>The Orioles especially now forearm thing going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroman's a rental, but that's a rental that I think

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:46.879
<v Speaker 3>can makes sense. I think what we're gonna end up

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:52.320
<v Speaker 3>seeing the Orioles do is just get the highest prized rental,

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 3>which would be Stroman and or Jamont. I think if

0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 3>they go get Stroman could kind of be an audition too,

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<v Speaker 3>because I do think they're going to spend a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit this offseason because they have their core locked up

0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:08.680
<v Speaker 3>for very cheap with control for a while and they

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 3>can go out. Now if they like Stroman, they can,

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.119
<v Speaker 3>they can extend him. They can you know, probably give

0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 3>him a nice offer and keep him around. And now

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 3>they've got their their probably most consistent and ace, so

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 3>to speak, even though he's not truly an ace. That's

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.120
<v Speaker 3>a good start. I think they do something like that.

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 3>I think they should call on seas and try. But

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:26.520
<v Speaker 3>if he's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Available, what else is there?

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:32.760
<v Speaker 3>There's just not really any other impactful frontline options out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's a good transition into what we

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:37.919
<v Speaker 2>want to you know, talk about for the next you know,

0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.719
<v Speaker 2>forty forty five minutes or so, is uh, you know,

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.880
<v Speaker 2>trade destinations for guys. And we each have three. I've

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 2>got Eduardo Rodriguez, I've got Marcus Stroman and Tim Anderson Peter,

0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:51.720
<v Speaker 2>which three you got?

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I have Shoho Tawni, I have Lucas g Alito. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm trying to cook up something with the Cardinals

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and the Giants because they're just such a good match

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>for each other, and that's more of a workshop. I

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 1>have a huge Galaxy brain trade that I sent in

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.119
<v Speaker 1>the group chat got immediate two laugh emojis, so I'm

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna get laughed off the podcast for it. But

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I just got something that makes sense. So I want

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to workshop a Cardinals Giants trade. But then of course

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I have a Gelito trade and a Tani trade.

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:24.960
<v Speaker 4>That wasn't a joke.

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.920
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a joke. We're talking Galaxy Brain. I mean, yeah,

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you're right at Major League Baseball.

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Save that one for last, because if you do get

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 2>laughed off the podcast, like, it'll come at the very end.

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:38.160
<v Speaker 2>So we get your other two.

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I bet if I you know mentioned, hey, I think

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Max shirs Are and Trade Turner are going to get

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:45.360
<v Speaker 1>included in the same deal. At the time. It might

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:48.399
<v Speaker 1>be funny. We're just talking trades. We're just talking trades.

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 4>We'll get to that one.

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna highlight Dylan Carlson and jam On and then

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 3>I have a third one that I'm I have a

0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 3>a couple that I'm deciding between, depending on how the

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 3>conversation goes, I'll pick the third one.

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Got you, I think mine are probably the least sexy.

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I can start with Erod if you want, and then

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>we can just kind of go clockwise, or we can

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 2>knock Mine out, Peters out, and Arms out if you want.

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why did you start?

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm looking at EDWARDO. Rodriguez obviously Lefty with

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 2>the Tigers, and you know, he is one of the

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 2>better rentals, and he just had a really good start

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.679
<v Speaker 2>earlier this week. I think Erod is a guy that

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>is upping his price, possibly on the rental market. I

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 2>still don't think he's going to be that impressive. I

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.120
<v Speaker 2>think Erod makes a ton of sense for the Houston Astros,

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and I want to figure out a way to get

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Erod to Houston. I know that there was a rumor

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 2>going around about, you know, Dylan Ceese being the astros

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 2>number one priority. Like, no, I don't think they have

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 2>the farm to do that, especially with the control, but

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 2>they have the farm to go get a rental Erod.

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 2>I think they can honestly do a one for one here.

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Tell me if it's out landish right now, and like,

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 2>this could be the Astros just bullying the Tigers and

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 2>dominating this trade. If the Tigers were smart, I think

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I would start the conversation by asking for Clifford, for

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Clifford for e Rod. I don't know if they're

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 2>going to do that. I trust Scott Harris to ask

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.959
<v Speaker 2>for Ryan Clifford. Do you think a Melton for Eduardo

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Rodriguez deal straight up gets it done or no?

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 4>I think it could.

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 3>People people really like I like Melton a lot too,

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 3>and I know that people within the Astros org I

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 3>was literally just talking about these guys today, as I've

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 3>been kind of finalizing the top one hundred and also

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 3>getting working on the Astros Top ten, I think that

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 3>would get it done. Like Melton's pretty darn good and

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 3>pretty well loved within that org, So yeah, I think

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 3>I think that could do it.

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what do you think of the e Rod fit

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 2>in Houston, Peter?

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I love the Erod fit in Houston. Right, they go

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>down with Luis Garcia. They need starting pitching, Like Brandon Black,

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think is the answer long term, Ronel Blanco,

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think is the answer long term? You don't, No,

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. And this isn't our normal Astros

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>team where we're used to where it's you know, Verlander

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and and you know Framber is the two and then

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Christian Xavier throwing no hitters. Christian Xavier has really struggled

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>this season. Like this is an Astros team where we're

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 1>not really used to them really needing starting pitching. And

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 1>it's not like, oh, a starting pitching, you know, a

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>starting pitcher would just be a cherry on top of

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the Sunday. This is a team that at this point

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>is desperate for starting pitching. With the decline of Christian Xavier.

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>So I think they absolutely need Eduardo Rodriguez, and I

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 1>think Scott Harris can say, we know that you need

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Eduardo Rodriguez, We're gonna need a little bit more. We're

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna need you to overpay. And like you said, I'm

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 1>confident Scott Harris's ability not to get bullied here. Right

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>when he traded Gregory Soto, he certainly didn't get bullied,

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's a good GM. We just haven't seen it

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>quite on the field yet, even though the Tigers have

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 1>performed above expectations, I think they're going to get a

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>decent Hall for e Rod. But at the same time,

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I think the Astros are perfect fit there.

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, do we want to snake it? Somebody want

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 2>to go?

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll go, okay, go ahead. So I was looking at

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:26.199
<v Speaker 1>trades for Lucasgilito because I think Dylan cees right now,

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like fifty to fifty. I think that's fair.

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Fifty to fifty he gets traded. It's almost like a

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>coin flip at this point.

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 2>With the socks ineptitude, I'd say thirty seventy he gets traded,

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, yeah, thirty thirty seventy or no.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 4>Thirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's very unlikely.

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 3>I think they're going to just sit on the most

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 3>valuable asset, which is so fucking crazy.

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Of course they would, but at this point, I think

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>it's ninety eight to two ninety eight being yes that

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>lucasgi Alito at least gets traded. So I look back

0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>last year, who's a team that could really use a

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>bullpen arm and use his starter on top of it?

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>And I look back remember when the Cardinals acquired jose

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Kntana and Chris Stratton in exchange for Joan Oviedo and

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 1>a third base prospect, Malcolm Nunez. Malcolm Nunyez, So I

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>was looking at okay, two prospects or Ovieda wasn't really

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a prospect, but he was a good young starting pitcher

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>who at least made his debuts so far. Yeah, tweener exactly.

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>So who's a team with a couple of tweeners right

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>now who also have a good pharm system that could

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>use that. So my prediction is Lucas g Alito and

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Kenyan Middleton to the Dodgers for Emmett Shean and then

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>another piece, most likely now the second prospect. I don't

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>think it has to be crazy because san is you know,

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>he's a twenty three year old starter who does have

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>good stuff and arm raves about the Tulsa drillers. But

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, maybe you add a land and knack

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>on top of it and call it a deal.

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna say Shean's too good for that. She's

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 2>not a tweener. Shean's like a big part of what

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers want to do moving forward. I'm curious how

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 2>low the stock is for Gavin Stone. I feel like

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Stone might not even be good for that, but she

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think is like not untouchable. Like if they

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 2>have to go get if they have to go to

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>part with Shean for Otani, they're gonna do it. But

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I think for a guy like gi Alido for a rental,

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they want to move she In at all.

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>The thing is like, I wonder who they value more,

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Stone or Shean, because I'm looking at Shean and you know,

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>he's had a bumpy start to the season. He's still

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>is young, but so is Gavin Stone. And these guys,

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>these rookie pitchers are gonna go through their ups and

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>downs early, I personally think, and you guys can correct

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong, of the top starting pitchers that

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>they have is she and the guy that they would

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>be most likely willing to move, because you are getting

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy in Lucas Gilito who has had a really

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>good year, very similar to Jose Kintana in that sense,

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>where Kintana was around a three to five era one

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of the better rentals at the deadline, very similar to Gilito.

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Then they got Stratton, but we're thrown in Middleton, who's

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>been a great reliever. Maybe to sweeten the deal, they

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>go with Kendall Graveman, Right, they go with a very

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>good reliever in order to get Shean. But the Dodgers

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>just have an embarrassment of riches of just really good

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>young starting pitchers. So I thought Shean might be the

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>odd man out in this equation. But I feel like

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that recipe of one of these young starting pitchers on

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers plus a maybe Landin Nak is too much.

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe like a twenty to thirtieth rank prospect. Maybe someone

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>even outside would make the deal for a Lucasgilito and

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>a big time reliever.

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think they could put it together with some

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 3>of those young guys. I definitely want to keep Shehan.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I think he might be there.

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 4>Best arm right now of the of that group.

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>But they have who's just that group that you're talking about.

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Probably Miller, Stone, she and Pepio.

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 4>Besides Miller.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Miller is in his own Miller's graduated, starting pitcher pitches

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 3>every fifth day. He's separated himself very quickly. I think

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 3>she hen Stone, then you have Nack, you have Frosco,

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.719
<v Speaker 3>you have, you have all those guys kind of in

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 3>that range, Kyle Hurt, you have. I would I would

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 3>think that they could just part with one or two

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 3>of any of those guys and and get it done.

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they need to move she at hand.

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 3>But like to Peter's point, just a couple of the

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 3>really solid double A to triple A starters one or

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 3>in a flyer and you could probably get it done.

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Because those guys are all thrown really well and have

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 3>pretty good value right now from that double A and

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>triple A area.

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why like workshopping it. So do you think like

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a Pepio and a Knack for Gilito and Kendall Graveman,

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>do we have a deal we have still between rick

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>On and Andrew Friedman, Knack and Hurt.

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 4>I think would get it done.

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I think, yes, I do. I think that we overestimate

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the price of rentals could be because it is two months.

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Like it's two months and you've got like, if you

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>move Keenan Middleton, you got two months of Keenan, you

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>got two months of Giolito going to La like you're swapping.

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I guess twelve years of service for four months of

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, help. So you got to view it in

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 2>that way. I think if they were to move Gelito

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>in Middleton, I don't think they need Graveman. If they

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>were to go Geelito and Middleton, I think something like

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Frostso and NAC could get it done.

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fair enough. I like that.

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that'd be great for the White Sox too, honestly.

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I think so, yeah, they need they need warm bodies

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 2>in that system. We've talked about that.

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 4>That can throw.

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I was watching The Twins yesterday.

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I know Peter was two, and they're a frustrating team

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 3>for a lot of reasons we've talked about. We just

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 3>talked about on the last episode, but their rotation right

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 3>now is unbelievably good. I mean, it's just been steady

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 3>and consistent. Kentemi Aida now is throwing really well now

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 3>that he's healthy, six and a third of nine.

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 4>K's two runs.

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 3>So you've got the best producing in terms of f

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 3>war rotation and baseball, and then you've got a lineup

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 3>that strikes out with the worst of them, and then

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 3>also really struggles against left handed pitching and the second

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 3>worst WRC plus against left handed pitching Byron Buckson can't

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 3>play center. They're playing Michael A. Taylor out there, They're

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>playing Willie Castro out there. They're like platooning them. It's gross.

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 3>I think they need to go get Dylan Carlson. And Carlson,

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's not fully becoming the player that we

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 3>wanted him to be, but he's still twenty four. But

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 3>the big reason why I like him is he can

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 3>play in everyday center field. He is way better from

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 3>the right side, which is interesting. So he would definitely

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 3>help with those platoon splits. And even if you want to,

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, give him some days off, you know, against

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 3>some good rieties, you can do that. But I still

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 3>think he helps them a ton. One forty two WRC

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 3>plus in his career against left handed pitching, he's been

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 3>really good against left handed pitching again this year. The Twins,

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.720
<v Speaker 3>their rotation's pretty locked up for a while. Cardinals want pitching.

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.439
<v Speaker 3>Twins have plenty of arms that, you know, I don't

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>think they have to worry about in the rotation. Plus,

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 3>they're going to get Chris Paddock back, you know, pretty soon,

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 3>which is a decent arm that just adds to the fold.

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 3>So I think they could put together some sort of

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 3>package around Louis Varland, who instantly could be a rotation

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 3>option for the miserable Cardinals pitching situation. And then you

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 3>added David Festa, who threw in the Futures Game, who

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 3>I actually think that they were kind of pushing in

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 3>the Futures Game to show really nasty stuff, big time upside.

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 3>You throw in a third flyer piece, you know, a

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 3>lower level piece, and I think that could be enough

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 3>for Carlson, given that he's good. He has three years

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 3>of control, but I think his value's never really been lower,

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.959
<v Speaker 3>and the Cardinals have made it clear that their plan

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.240
<v Speaker 3>is to put him on the bench potential once Tyler

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 3>O'Neil comes back, which would even further deplete his value,

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 3>So I think Varlin Festa and a piece could get

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 3>it done.

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Before last week, I would have said that that is like,

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 2>you still need to add more on Minnesota side to

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 2>get Carlson. But after what we've heard from Ali Marmle,

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 2>like you don't need dead more. It feels like they

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.280
<v Speaker 2>might just let him go to you for misaiel Orbino,

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 2>who's got like a five fifty ops in high A

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 2>right now. So I like that move a lot. The

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>fact that that guy is already being looked at by

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 2>damage good as damaged goods by his own team is despicable.

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 2>On Ali Marmle is like on the hottest of hot

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>seats ever, and only half of it has to do

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>with what happens between the lines.

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Yeah, that guy just needs to shut up, honestly

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 5>sometimes honestly, dude, like he's he's the most immature major

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 5>league manager I've seen in years.

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Just rips.

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Dudes like that all have like pros pro reputations to

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:05.240
<v Speaker 3>Everybody loves Dylan Carlson, everybody loves Styler O'Neill. Wilson contrere

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 3>is another story. Yeah, but that like it's it's shocking

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 3>to me because they kind of get the same treatment

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 3>as Wilson.

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 4>In a lot of ways.

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 1>But just going back to the Twins side of it,

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Twins fans have to be hurting talking about making trades

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>at the deadline, like do they trust their general manager

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>after trading aways Spencer Steer ed Christian Acarnacio and straand

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>for Tyler Valley. But at the same time, that's a

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>trade that makes a ton of sense for him. And

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the Twins are such an interesting team because when they're hitting,

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>which they are right now. They're having a pretty great

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>series against the Mariners, and it's carried over since the

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>All Star break. They're hitting home runs and Ward Julienne

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>is fantastic. Max Kepler's finally hitting again, you know, even

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>from top to bottom, like Willie Castro has been hitting

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>for them, And when Willie Castro in the seven hole

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>is hitting, this team looks incredible because arm you talk

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>about the pitching, right, you can go down the line

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>in every day from top to bottom, all the way

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>down from Joe Ryan down to Ken to Maida. You

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>can get an ace type performance. It's Ken to Miata

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>versus Luis Castillo, and guess who outdueled who Ken to Miaida,

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Like that's what they can do every fifth day. But

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>when they aren't hitting and they're striking out at a

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>thirty percent rate, you're like, it doesn't even matter what

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>they get from their pitchings. But when they are hitting,

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a really really good team and they could use

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>just another boost of a guy who doesn't strike out

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>every yet that and is good against left handed pitching,

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 1>because that's also been their problem now when they're striking out,

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>their problems are against everyone. But also Carlson adds that

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>element of defense too, And Varland ranks really high in

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.240
<v Speaker 1>like stuff plus metrics because he's got really good stuff.

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.359
<v Speaker 1>He just hasn't fully put it together yet. I just

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>feel like knowing what the Cardinals have done with their

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>pitching development, like do they get him, but do they

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>un lock something or does he just continue to be

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of met and no matter, the Wives end up

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>just getting the best of the deal, because I think

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>we know at this point Dylan Carlson is not damaged goods.

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>He's just a good player who struggled a little bit

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>last season when I think he was going through an injury,

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 1>and I.

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Think he's everything they need to Like Peter said, like

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 3>just a glue guy that they need. They need something

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 3>in the middle of all these all these big whiffs

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 3>and big boppers, and they need somebody that they can

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of just put out there in the outfield and

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 3>not have to really think about it. And if that

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 3>guy's even your nine hitter, as like a second leadoff,

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 3>he's in a position where he can thrive.

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 4>I think he needs a change of scenery.

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I really do think it'll be beneficial for him to

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 3>just get out of Saint.

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 4>Louis and I've been go thrive. I really do you know?

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>He feels super Marshy, he feels super branded Marshie Ye

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 2>and Brandon marsh was he was hitting ninth in the

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 2>World Series? Was he not?

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it was eighth or nine. Like he is

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.879
<v Speaker 2>totally Brandon marsh of this year. So I think that's

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 2>pretty spot on. Real quick, before we move on, have

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 2>you noticed what all the older announcers are calling Edward Julienne.

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 2>They're calling him Eddie Julian like they don't want to

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.720
<v Speaker 2>learn how to say it, like with a French twang

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:00.240
<v Speaker 2>at all, Like Edward Julien is like pretty easy to say.

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 2>But they're just like Oh yeah, American baseball name Eddie Julian.

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Eddie Juliet sounds like you could play for

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>like the nineteen twenty Philadelphia A's or something like Eddie

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Julian takes the gets up to the plate with like

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>enormous wool pants like Eddie Juliant.

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Though, I think we should just call him by his

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 2>name and like how you're supposed to say his name.

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 2>But okay, I'm going to take you guys to Marcus Stroman.

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I saw that the Rays are quote doing their homework

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 2>on Stroman, and I want to attach some sort of

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>idea to this because I think that is a perfect fit.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>It was not like Morosi or Hayman that was saying like,

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>oh rais have checked in. It was Patrick Mooney and

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Sahada Sharma who covered the Cubs for the Athletic and

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 2>they said it like in a podcast conversation. They said,

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the Rays, you know, could have interested in Bellinger and Stroman,

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 2>but they've done their homework on Marcus Stroman, and I

0:39:56.680 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>think that's a good fit because the Rays need availability

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 2>in the rotation so bad. You think about how volatile

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 2>that rotation is, how talented it is, but how volatile

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 2>like they should be clamoring for Zach Efflin two point zero,

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's Stroman. I think Strowman embodies reliability.

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 2>He embodies six innings per start, seven innings per start

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>of two run ball. He's gonna roll ground balls. He's

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 2>going to strike out, you know, five guys and seven innings,

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 2>and he's going to give you an opportunity to win

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 2>if you have a good offense. We also know that

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 2>they can deal with those loud personalities. We already saw

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.399
<v Speaker 2>the Wander Franco thing pop up, and they took care

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.439
<v Speaker 2>of it in a very quiet way, in a non

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>ali marmole way. They took care of an immature Wander

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Franco moment. I think they can handle a guy that

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>like you know, has you know it, has loud actions

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 2>in the clubhouse and Strowman. So I think that this

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 2>rental fit is perfect for a team that just needs

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>good pitchers in the starting rotation consistently.

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 4>I also think he wants to win. You see that.

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean talk about a guy that always just rises

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 3>to the occasion on the big stage. I think they're

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna get You're always getting a really good version of

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Stroman right now. But I think you get the best

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 3>out of Stroman if he's pitching meaningful baseball games for

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 3>the Rays and he's gonna git free agency. That's the

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 3>kind of guy that I could see the Ray's paying

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 3>because it's not going to be out of this world money.

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 3>And honestly, I know Stroman just kind of wants to

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.919
<v Speaker 3>hunker down in one more place and kind of play

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 3>his days out there. From everything I've I've seen him say,

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 3>what better place than a team that's perpetually in I

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 3>would say in the Hunts and pretty competitive. And that's

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 3>for a guy that has kind of struggled to play

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 3>for competitive teams over the last.

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 4>Couple of years.

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Can I give you a one for one idea, Ronda? No,

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.399
<v Speaker 2>but Sabe, I think that's enough.

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 4>But Sabe might not be enough.

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And Meisner, it's just Cubs fans aren't gonna be excited

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>with that return for Marcustra been considering he has more

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>years of control.

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 4>No, he he really doesn't.

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 2>Though he's got a player option hell opped out.

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>He might opt out. It's a good point he will.

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, hmm, it's a rental.

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I know, But that God, that's just such a boring return,

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>but it might it might be the answer. But I

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>know they alre to get rid of Marcus Stroman when

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>they're still somewhat in it in the division. You know,

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the Reds there, they went on that Coultrie where the

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee Brewers kind of bullied them a little bit, and

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 1>then the Brewers themselves have their own issues, but they've

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>been playing much better baseball. Like if the Cubs were

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to trade their ace, even though I think Justin Steele

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 1>at this point is their ace, but Steels coming off

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a really rough outing gets the Red Sox, but that

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>doesn't take anything away from his a status, but one

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of their aces, like kind of arm said, like would

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:58.720
<v Speaker 1>is Manzardo too much? Like we got to give Cubs fans,

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, something for Stroman at least, I mean.

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 4>Rental season man I Willie Vasquez.

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh, they need to They need to clear a forty spot,

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:16.959
<v Speaker 3>so that that's the thing. So I think it's got

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 3>to be either Bruhan, Arnda, Rene Pine would probably be

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 3>of interest. They could use some catching help along with Amaya,

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.320
<v Speaker 3>but I think they should they should just play Amya more.

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 3>I think Ronda and and A in another piece, Ronda

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 3>and Blake Hunt or something like that. Is is good enough, Ronda.

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 3>They can plug right in right away. They just need

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 3>bats and he's a guy that can obviously swing it

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 3>and he's big league ready.

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know it's sad. I know it's underwhelming. I

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 2>know like this disappointed, dejected look right now.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Because I feel for Cubs fans. It's you know, they're

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:59.399
<v Speaker 1>They're a tough team to evaluate because they're not out

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>of it, but they're in it either. And to trade

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Stroman and not get like if I'm the Cubs personally

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm trading Stroman, no, yeah, I mean Junior Kevendaro

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 1>would be fucking amazing. Not him, but like I would

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>like at least a man Zarto. I would rather have

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>like one top like one great prospect, rather than like

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>three decent ones which may just end up not doing it.

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>And maybe I'm just hoping for more. That's probably where

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming from, more than like the actual what makes sense.

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying, if I'm a Cubs fan and

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm trading Marcus Stroman, i want one of the best

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>prospects you can give me, rather than two like decent ones.

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Maybe one ends up being a big leaguer, like I

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>want one great piece, but it is a rental because

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he will opt out. It's just a tough situation, is

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to say.

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>So tell me, let's play again. I'm gonna run through

0:44:56.120 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 2>like the high price pieces in the in the raised system.

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah and arm you tell me if Eric Neander hangs

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 2>up the phone, if if Jed Hoyer asks for this

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Manzardo hang up?

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Is he hanging up for Stroman? Straight up? They traded

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.919
<v Speaker 1>Joe Ryan for Nelson Cruz, anything could happen.

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they didn't know that that was coming with

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Joe Ryan.

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It was a yeah. But they're on a forty man

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 1>crunch right now too.

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 4>But that's not a forty man player.

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, Curtis mead fuck now exactly. Yeah, h Cameron

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Arow hang up immediately?

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 4>Can and Arrow on blocking?

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, trade cars? No, Xavier Isaac dude exactly. So then

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 2>the next options are Mason Montgomery, Slavis, Basave our Cole

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Wilcox like Basabe I think is the best of the bunch,

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and he plugs in immediately. Basabe is a triple a

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 2>guy that can play third, short and second. You've got

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Dansby out right. Now you need a third basement of

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 2>the future because it looks like Morell is not good

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 2>enough at third base to play third base. I think

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 2>bisab is the answer here.

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess if I'm Jed Hoyer, I'm just like,

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>is it enough? I might just trying to extend him then, Yeah, maybe.

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:19.239
<v Speaker 2>They they had their opportunity.

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 4>They they don't want to pay him.

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they came out and said that they are probably

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>not going to extend it by the deadline, which makes

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>us think he's gonna get traded. This is a weird spot. Fine,

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>it will trade the eleventh rank prospect for Marcus Stroman.

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 2>All right, Peter, who's your next one?

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So I'll end with the Otani trade. Let's workshop my

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 1>galaxy brain one. So when I look at the Giants,

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a report came out that Farhan Ziety is going to

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 1>be an aggressive buyer. Now I don't know if I

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 1>fully buy the report, because the Giants are really smart,

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>they know what they're doing. But there was a report

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>that came out that the Giants are going to be

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 1>aggressive buyers, and I don't see why not. The Dodgers

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 1>aren't exactly the same juggernaut that they once were. We're

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 1>seeing Julio Reis the line right before our eyes. We're

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.919
<v Speaker 1>seeing him get beaten the hell up by the Baltimore Orioles, which,

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:06.719
<v Speaker 1>in the Orioles credit have a great offense. But this

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 1>has been continuous starts of a guy who finished second

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 1>in Analysai Young voting, who's now rocking an era in

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the mid fours, and it's not looking like it's getting

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>any better. It may by the end of the season,

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:20.760
<v Speaker 1>but right now it's not. They have issues the Diamondbacks. Again,

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>we talk about a team that I think is due

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>for regression. Are they going to run away with the division?

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Probably not. They're a great team, They're probably end up

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 1>making the playoffs, but you know they're not perfect. So

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.439
<v Speaker 1>the Giants I think see a reasonable window of making

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. So I understand being aggressive buyers, but I

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 1>think their main issue right now is the bats. Right

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>They're getting production from guys but one through nine in

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 1>their offense, Like when you get down to the six hitters,

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it just gets a little bit boring down there. And

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I know the Cardinals would be willing to part with bats.

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And when I look at a Giant system. I see

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of really really good arms. So my galaxy

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 1>brain was thinking, well, the Cardinals want to get rid

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 1>of a guy, not get rid, but they're willing to

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 1>trade a guy like Tyler O'Neill, and they have Mason

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Wynn coming up the pipeline. I don't know how much

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 1>longer they're gonna stick with Paul de Young. I know

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 1>he's available too, So I was trying to workshop a trade,

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a big time trade with Tyler O'Neill and Paul Deong

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>heading to San Francisco because Brandon again, sorry.

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 4>That's like an oxy moron.

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 3>What big time trade with Paul de Youong and Tyler

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 3>O'Neill headed to San Francisco.

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a big time trade. Paul de Young

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.879
<v Speaker 1>is having a pretty solid season for the Cardinals this year,

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.720
<v Speaker 1>and Tyler O'Neal has it has a lot of upside

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to him.

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 4>I think, does he like do people even still look

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 4>at him like that at this point anymore?

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I watched him get blown up by Kyle Nicholas and

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Triple a couple of days ago.

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:57.720
<v Speaker 1>All right, so maybe it's not a big time trade.

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I still think it's a pretty sizable deal. No, You're

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:03.799
<v Speaker 1>getting two big leaguers that play every day exactly so,

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and they could use some outfield help and they could

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.320
<v Speaker 1>use some infield help. So I'm just trying to workshop

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 1>what kind of prospects would be going over in a

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>deal like that, because maybe it's not a blockbuster. Maybe

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:18.080
<v Speaker 1>people are more down on Tyler O'Neill, but maybe he

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.359
<v Speaker 1>just needs a change his scenery. Maybe in his head,

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:22.879
<v Speaker 1>Olie Marmal got in his head and he's just kind

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of not checked out. But I don't think he's fully

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:28.239
<v Speaker 1>checked in with the way the Cardinal season is gone

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and then your manager calling you out for not hustling,

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe could just use a change of scenery. And I

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>still do see a ton of talent in there, and

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Paul Deung is a serviceable big leaguer. So those two

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 1>guys heading to San Francisco, what would it cost? I

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:43.319
<v Speaker 1>guess is my problem because I'm not truly sure, But

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I think those two pieces make a lot of sense

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 1>for San Francisco, right.

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 2>I think we initially laughed at the message because you

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 2>had wizen Hunt in that deal, and that would be

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 2>like addressed if I'm if I'm San Francisco, I'm not

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 2>moving wizen Hunt for.

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:01.959
<v Speaker 1>Anybody phenomenal futures game. I was thinking, like, maybe would

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Carson wizen Hunt, maybe by himself do it for those

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>two big leaguers Probably a little bit too much too.

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is like he looks better than Kyle

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Harrison does this year, just objectively better, like he may

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 2>could he hop Harrison arm?

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 4>It's possible.

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if Harrison keeps walking seven for nine that

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 3>The crazy thing is this, Kyle Harrison's a year younger

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:30.439
<v Speaker 3>than him in a so and Kyle Harrison's strikeout numbers

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 3>are still absurdity.

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know.

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'll ever fully fully pass him,

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 3>but he's definitely the second best arm in the system.

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 1>But pretty margin, we'll surround it around Reggie Crawford. Oh right,

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they want to Crawford. Yeah, I think

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 1>it would be more underwhelming than you think. I think

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>it could be a Mason Black, Vaughan Brown, Haido Pomaris trade.

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be a lot, I think, But like, is

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Speaker 2>that a needle mover?

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:07.879
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, these these prospects are good,

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>but you're getting too MLB ready obviously MLB ready players,

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, does months, in my opinion, have ulsar upside.

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 2>What's hard for me is like how badly did the

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco Giants want to win in twenty three? Like

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about how much money they have coming off

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:29.360
<v Speaker 2>the books, Like they may just look at this like, hey, cool,

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.480
<v Speaker 2>we're winning, We're contending for a wildcard spot. Just wait

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:36.760
<v Speaker 2>till twenty four when we throw eight hundred million thousand

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 2>dollars at everybody.

0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think if you're a free agent too,

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 1>do you want to go to a team that you

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:48.319
<v Speaker 1>know is clearing the books and maybe they make a

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:49.399
<v Speaker 1>bunch of moves next year?

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:54.240
<v Speaker 2>So I get what you're saying there, but think about

0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:57.440
<v Speaker 2>like Texas got yes is from Corey Seger and Semion

0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 2>in that same scenario books clear starting from scratch. You

0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 2>want to be a part of this?

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just think Ben Ark could go, Ben Arc

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>could go. Yeah. Is Reggie Crawford so untouchable that just

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>like a package just with him for those two guys

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 1>is just way overdoing it?

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 4>Like easy?

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 3>They just drafted him in the first round off TJ

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:24.280
<v Speaker 3>and he's you just got promoted to hya he's hitting

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 3>and pitching. I think that you know, they just invested

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:29.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of money into him, probably want to see

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 3>what he can do. But I think Paul De Young's

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna get his option to clin next year, so you're

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna get him for a couple of months in decline

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 3>the option, and then Tyler O'Neill you would have for

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:41.520
<v Speaker 3>the rest of this year, assuming he's healthy, and then

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 3>next year. But they also are attached to Mitch Tanneger,

0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 3>another often injured outfielder, for the next several years as well.

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 2>And they have a mutual on Conforta. Do we know

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:53.879
<v Speaker 2>it's not a player. It's a mutual, right.

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a mutual, So it's it's a little crowded,

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 3>but I I do think if they did, like ben

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:05.479
<v Speaker 3>Nar and somebody else, I think that the Cardinals would

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:08.320
<v Speaker 3>take that and run for Paul De Young and Tyler O'Neill.

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:12.279
<v Speaker 2>At this point, it's a player at eighteen for Conflorido,

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:13.879
<v Speaker 2>and I think he might opt into one year.

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he definitely will opt into that.

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:20.360
<v Speaker 2>He did me. That sounds great. Eight dollars.

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>That sounds great for a guy like Michael Colflorido. Yeah, no,

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 1>just trying to think because they do need bats, Cardinals

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:30.799
<v Speaker 1>are willing to deal bats. Farronse Adi said he would

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:35.359
<v Speaker 1>be aggressive and maybe, like, you guys are much deeper

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>into the prospect stuff, so I refer to your guys'

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>opinion on each individual guy whether he makes sense. I'm

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>just looking at tiers of prospects and who potentially could

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.320
<v Speaker 1>make sense for a guy with all star level upside

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:49.720
<v Speaker 1>and a Paul de Young who's definitely better than Brandon

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Crawford is right now. And like, if farronse AIDI didn't

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 1>come out and say that he would be aggresive buyers,

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be looking to aggressively buy for the San

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Francisco Giants. But now I'm looking too aggressively by and

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>those two guys immediately impact the lineup. It's just with

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:09.720
<v Speaker 1>you guys, it's tough. Every prospect's amazing.

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean you're not, Yeah, you're not trading a

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two first round pick for Paul de Young

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:17.800
<v Speaker 3>and Tyler O'Neal.

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Like, we're actually like Tyler o'neils chop liver over here,

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.319
<v Speaker 1>he kind of is. I don't think he's chopped liver

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I think, I think, I think.

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.280
<v Speaker 2>His value is lower than Dylan Carlson.

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:30.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, I mean Dylan Carlson, you know, much younger,

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:33.200
<v Speaker 1>more years of control, and.

0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Way less volatile too. Like Tyler O'Neal could strike out

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:37.399
<v Speaker 2>thirty five percent of the time.

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Man, Yeah, but Tyler O'Neil is also the guy that

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 1>could completely switch it around and be the four star

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:47.480
<v Speaker 1>caliber outfielder. It's kind of like it's a big upside

0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:50.280
<v Speaker 1>pick for the Giants. It's not quite swinging for the fences,

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>but it could end up being that piece that puts

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you over the edge. Right.

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I just think the ship is kind of sailed, Like

0:54:56.600 --> 0:54:58.399
<v Speaker 3>we had one good year from him and that's it.

0:54:58.640 --> 0:55:02.280
<v Speaker 3>He was bad and twenty nineteen stint, he was bad

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty, he was good and really good in

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one while striking out thirty one percent of

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 3>the time, then.

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:11.359
<v Speaker 4>Bad last year and bad and hurt this year.

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 3>So I got I don't I don't know if anybody

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 3>really wants Tyler O'Neil at this point.

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but have you seen his body?

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Have you he's so hot. I I have.

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:25.839
<v Speaker 4>Seventy WRC plus and eight triple a games as well.

0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was striking out a billion times. And Indy

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:31.959
<v Speaker 2>last week it was it was fascinating before we hoped

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 2>to arms next trade. Jared Kelnick broke his foot after

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:37.800
<v Speaker 2>kicking a water cooler last night. According to Ryan.

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 4>Divish, Dude, are you serious?

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>That's really yeah, that's really bad. I mean, do we

0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 1>just sell Mariners stock at this point? I mean what

0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 1>are we doing? I mean they're not even pitching well,

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 1>like the bullpen is imploding, They're not hitting at this point.

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:00.879
<v Speaker 1>It's like we keep HIPing them up. We keep hyping

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>them up. And it's honestly, when I say we it's

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 1>mostly led by me.

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:08.279
<v Speaker 4>We're all in.

0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 2>And when Kirby goes seven innings a one run ball

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 2>tonight against Minnesota, I'm all the way back in.

0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But then Pablo goes seven innings to shut out

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 1>because Americas can't hit.

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:19.720
<v Speaker 2>The Twins, and coltland Wong goes oh for four with five.

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like Georgia Courber is probably gonna pitch great, like

0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Luis Castillo pitched pretty well. They still lost six to

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 1>three because Munjos came in and blew it and Tom

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Murphy dropped the ball. For a pass ball and the

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Twins ended up winning, thankfully for me. I was on

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Twins Mondy because I'm watching the Maritors. I'm like, even

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>with your best arms, like what your minas won sixty favorites,

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 1>They're just not as good as I want them to be.

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 1>And there I said it. They're not as good as

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I want them to be. Mariners fans. And your fricking

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 1>lefty who looked like Babe Ruth through April and May

0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>has now started striking out all the time. And they

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:57.320
<v Speaker 1>just kicked a water cooler and he broke his foot.

0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Julie Rodriguez, I'm waiting, Typhrien, waiting, waiting, waiting the league leaders.

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:10.840
<v Speaker 1>That strikeouts is like it's bad hip up there hitting.

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:15.799
<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Cal raw He does kind of look at.

0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:18.920
<v Speaker 4>He does kind of look.

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Like me up there, honestly, man, all right, what's your

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 2>next one?

0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 1>All right?

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 3>The banners are really running my day.

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 4>It's really I'm with you on that.

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Peter I took off my Mariners, had to put on

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>my just baseball hat.

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna send Aaron Savali to the Arizona Diamondbacks because

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 3>they just need they just need some some depth.

0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 4>They just need an arm h.

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 3>And I think they need some control. So I'm sending

0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Savali to the d Backs going the other way.

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 3>There's a few different ways we can workshop this one,

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 3>but I think A J. Vukovich is a perfect trade chip.

0:57:58.400 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Too much, that's that's too much.

0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:06.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, you got multiple years of control, multiple years of

0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:10.400
<v Speaker 3>control of Savali. He's pitching really well this year. I

0:58:10.440 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 3>look at what the d Backs could part with. I

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 3>think Vukovich is a guy that's performing at a high level.

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 4>You could move maybe, you mean when if.

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 3>It requires it, But he's kind of pitching out of

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:22.919
<v Speaker 3>his mind right now. I'd move him in this deal.

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 3>I would, But even if that's too much, you could

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:31.000
<v Speaker 3>do like a Justin Martinez Slay Chaconi and then aj Vukovic,

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 3>like any kind of combination of that. I think Chacconi's

0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:36.600
<v Speaker 3>a guy that'll really benefit from getting out of the PCO,

0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:38.840
<v Speaker 3>and I think the Guardians could help unlock something with him.

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:41.160
<v Speaker 3>He's kind of a Dada darling pitcher still just turned

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 3>twenty four. I think Chaconi and Vukovich for Savali could

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 3>get it done.

0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 1>You see, like this podcast isn't doing enough numbers right now?

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:56.880
<v Speaker 1>How about Corbyn, Carroll In, Gavin Williams, bow Naylor and

0:58:56.960 --> 0:58:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Jose Ramirez. Let's just fuck some shit up.

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:02.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was thinking. I think I think that's

0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:06.520
<v Speaker 2>not sexy enough. So let's put a kuna on the Yankees.

0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes for and harr perfect. No. I think that's a

0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:15.320
<v Speaker 2>good deal. I think it gets it done. I do

0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 2>you think you have to add Savally is a guy

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.960
<v Speaker 2>that honestly looked like a DFA candidate not long ago.

0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:24.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know Savale's value, to be honest.

0:59:24.840 --> 0:59:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, do you think you need to add more

0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 2>than Vukevich? I don't think you do.

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:32.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Peter, where do you value Aaron Savally?

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I know you're you're you're You're Guardians correspondent.

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I've watched way too many of their fucking games this year.

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:42.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Yeah, how much would you what would you

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:43.680
<v Speaker 3>give up for an on your team if you need

0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:45.040
<v Speaker 3>a pitching It's so funny.

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 1>There's a part of me that would rather have Ern

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Savali than Lucas Gilido. I mean, I think Aaron Savally

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 1>is is just very safe. I think he gets you

0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:53.520
<v Speaker 1>through in it.

0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:55.400
<v Speaker 4>I think he just keeps.

0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:58.120
<v Speaker 1>All on the ground and he allows himself contact and

0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 1>he's just He's just I can put my head on

1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the pillow and know that Aeron Savali is pitching, and

1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I got a chance to win. I know,

1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I said that on the last podcast. Look as Giltto,

1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:09.400
<v Speaker 1>there's always the chance of just getting fucked. On Savali,

1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:12.200
<v Speaker 1>there's way less of that chance. So I think he's

1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:15.760
<v Speaker 1>actually gonna garner a bigger return than we think because

1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's just a solid ass pitcher and kind

1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:20.480
<v Speaker 1>of has been solid except for these like stretches where

1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:23.520
<v Speaker 1>he looked obviously hurt, like this stuff was down. He

1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:26.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't look like himself, But he is looking like himself

1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:28.480
<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, I think Eron Savally, I like that

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Hi Marton because I think he might be

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<v Speaker 1>the most underrated arm at this deadline that's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger return than people might think.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because to your point, he's one of the only

1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:40.040
<v Speaker 3>guys with control too that are probably gonna get moved.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I was looking at the Reds and

1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, the Reds aren't gonna give up what they

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what's necessary to get somebody like Savali, I

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<v Speaker 3>think they want to rental one. Honestly, I know you

1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:52.480
<v Speaker 3>look surprised with that point by Peter Jack, but like

1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I actually agree Giulito. I don't feel good about every

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<v Speaker 3>fifth day. I mean, and I know he has better

1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:02.760
<v Speaker 3>better peaks, like the peaks are definitely better, but I

1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:05.360
<v Speaker 3>don't really need peaks as much. If I'm the d Backs,

1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:07.080
<v Speaker 3>I need someone to help me kind of get to

1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:09.520
<v Speaker 3>the promised land and then you know, in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 3>just seven arm that I know if he has to

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<v Speaker 3>come in, and if he isn't going to totally cook

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<v Speaker 3>me when it comes to, you know, putting him in,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I know he's not gonna just cook me. I

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<v Speaker 3>can lean on somebody like Zach Gollan, I can lean

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<v Speaker 3>on a healthy maryle Kelly and go from there. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's Vukovic and then with the control, I think

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<v Speaker 3>Slay CHACONI I'm gonna stick with that one. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's a pretty pretty darn good return for the d

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<v Speaker 3>Backs or excuse me, for the Guardians, because they get

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that can play all over, has been really

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<v Speaker 3>producing offensively, really good athlete. He was a big time

1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:44.640
<v Speaker 3>football and basketball player in Vukovic and then DRACONI. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>telling you they'll turn him into a four or five

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<v Speaker 3>type pretty easily. And he's close to big league retty,

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<v Speaker 3>so just another arm for them in the fold.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay, yes, and you guys sold me. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that I was victim of sex appeal when it came

1:01:58.120 --> 1:02:00.480
<v Speaker 2>to di Alito's name, because gi Alito was like good

1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:02.880
<v Speaker 2>at one point, and Savali has never been really good

1:02:02.920 --> 1:02:05.200
<v Speaker 2>at one point. He's just been like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Fally no, yeah, those boring guys, but like sometimes boring pays.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, like give me five.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially on the hills, especially on the mound.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so safe and just pretty good. Like Jilido. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think his peaks are enough to like vault the

1:02:22.760 --> 1:02:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks to another level, but his valleys could end up

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<v Speaker 1>really hurting you so bad valleys.

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<v Speaker 2>Best peak in baseball so far this year probably Lance

1:02:33.400 --> 1:02:37.720
<v Speaker 2>ln and a tech performance. Right. The peaks are peaks

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<v Speaker 2>are hot as fuck for Lance Linn.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, at one game or the Meridor starters and bullpen

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<v Speaker 1>all pitch well and they hit that one time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, crazy, I bought it. Okay, uh my last one.

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<v Speaker 2>We each have one more Tim Anderson's on the move.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Anderson has to be on the move. Tim Anderson

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<v Speaker 2>is a shell of the value of what he held

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<v Speaker 2>coming into this year. I think this is the chance

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<v Speaker 2>for one of the best teams in baseball to go

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<v Speaker 2>at a shortstop. And I think the Dodgers are still

1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:12.840
<v Speaker 2>perfect for Tim Anderson. I don't think they need to

1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:14.880
<v Speaker 2>pay much at all. And I think the White Sox

1:03:14.920 --> 1:03:17.280
<v Speaker 2>fans are gonna be pissed. And I think that Rick

1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:20.040
<v Speaker 2>han is initially going to ask for a lot because

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<v Speaker 2>of the name recognition of Tim Anderson and the team

1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:25.880
<v Speaker 2>USA second baseman Tim Anderson. But that's not the Tim

1:03:25.920 --> 1:03:28.439
<v Speaker 2>Anderson you're getting right now. And if there's any team

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<v Speaker 2>that can take Tim Anderson and turn him back into

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<v Speaker 2>that batting title guy, I think we know who it is.

1:03:32.960 --> 1:03:35.000
<v Speaker 2>It's the team that turned Jason Hayward back into an

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred ops guy. So ta to the Dodgers. Four

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<v Speaker 2>frosso straight up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is one of those moves where I'm okay

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<v Speaker 1>giving trash and Frosto's not trash. Tim Anderson has been

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<v Speaker 1>horrible and not just oh, you know, he's having a

1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:58.520
<v Speaker 1>down year. He's been arguably baseball's worst player, like you

1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:00.080
<v Speaker 1>do not have to give up much for him, and

1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:02.160
<v Speaker 1>White Sox fans like, oh, now we're going to sell

1:04:02.200 --> 1:04:05.800
<v Speaker 1>him right like not after he hit three thirty, Now

1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:08.680
<v Speaker 1>we're going to sell. But he's hitting two forty. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox fans, I'm sorry. And also just before we

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<v Speaker 1>keep moving on and you know how we were slurping

1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Spencer Schreider six innings, four earned. Dimbacks are now winning

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<v Speaker 1>five to three. Gallot out dealinggum.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it a home run?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Home run?

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<v Speaker 1>See exactly what happened? So the d Backs home run

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<v Speaker 1>by Emmanuel Rivera three run bomb off Strider or oh no,

1:04:34.640 --> 1:04:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it might have been his just third of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not watching. Don't sue me. We got Emmanuel Rivera, Corbyn,

1:04:41.000 --> 1:04:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Carrol Off, Kirbyates whatever he blew.

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<v Speaker 2>Its scoring plays right now. Dominic Canzone first big league

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<v Speaker 2>homer in the seven. It took it to the seventh.

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<v Speaker 2>Bottom six. Gallon allowed a solo shots to Orlando Arcia.

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<v Speaker 2>Can Zone first big league home off. Uh yeah, off Strider.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a three run shot, and then solo homer

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<v Speaker 2>for Emmanuel Rivera a hit her later.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, yeah, until he gets killed man it's that's the

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<v Speaker 3>only way you gotta catch one. By the way, Elie

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<v Speaker 3>de la Cruz just threw a ball ninety nine point

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<v Speaker 3>eight miles per.

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<v Speaker 2>Hour relay on a relay awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the way Twitter sometimes acts about Ellie de

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<v Speaker 1>la Cruz, not when he does good things. I think

1:05:28.520 --> 1:05:31.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody you know rallies around those good things, except for

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<v Speaker 1>some people, like he'll do something and we'll tweet out,

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<v Speaker 1>like Ellie day la Cruz, look at this throw, how

1:05:36.320 --> 1:05:38.600
<v Speaker 1>amazing is Just watch this clip and people like yabab

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<v Speaker 1>be struck out your bat before yeah got off, dude, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>just shut up, just watch the cool highlight you yeahad

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, No, that that's that's Bad's absolute facts.

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<v Speaker 2>You think Anderson for frostso is fair?

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<v Speaker 4>I almost think it's an overlay.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm gonna, honestly, for Tim Anderson, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>give you the same treatment that I just gave Peter.

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly think that's an overpay because, like, honestly, Frosso

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<v Speaker 3>is seen by some as like a top one hundred guy, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is taking on ta who want a team that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't need him? Frankly, who else is.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I offer, if I offer Land and Knack,

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<v Speaker 3>who's beating it. Who's coming in and beating my offer?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the fucking Mets.

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<v Speaker 1>I just spit, almost spit out by water, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about in twenty twenty three that a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>almost is a top one hundred is an overpay for

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Anderson, like just the free fall. I know that,

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<v Speaker 1>I know so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>And also the other point, and I'm really glad what

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<v Speaker 3>that we've had these conversations because like I've been just

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<v Speaker 3>digging into this for months now. I think it's really

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<v Speaker 3>good that we've just had these thought exercises because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think people realize most of these assets aren't that

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<v Speaker 3>good at the trade deadline, Like it's good players that

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<v Speaker 3>can help you, but from a pure trade value perspective,

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<v Speaker 3>most of these guys aren't worth much and they're either underperforming,

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<v Speaker 3>they're hurt, or they don't have control or all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you're in a spot here where, like I

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<v Speaker 3>know we're wired to like trade top prospects, but I

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<v Speaker 3>actually think this is gonna be one of the deadlines

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<v Speaker 3>where notable players will get moved, but the returns are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be asked, and everyone's gonna be like what the hell?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, the more I think about this,

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<v Speaker 1>the more I think these notable players, gams are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get on the phone and the gms are gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like arm and be like we're not gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>what you want, and nothing's gonna fucking happen. Like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>gets so excited every trade deadline, like Otani's gonna get traded.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably gonna pitch and Otani trade and next thing

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<v Speaker 1>we know, he's just not traded because already, Marna, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about it in a little bit. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys just don't get moved, Like Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Savali gets moved and that that's the deadline, and Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Foley like a lot of teams unload bullpen arms and

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<v Speaker 1>like that's it, Like that's sometimes what happens at these

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<v Speaker 1>deadlines is that a lot of top players are put

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<v Speaker 1>in articles for clicks. One of them gets traded, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of three four starters gets traded, and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of big bullpen pieces get traded for actual good prospects,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we react to them and we're like, why

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<v Speaker 1>they trade that prospect, that prospects ends up being good,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's the trade deadline. So it's fun to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about and you know, throw rumors out there, but

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<v Speaker 1>really what we're left with that most trade deadlines is

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<v Speaker 1>a fuck ton of nothing. That's normally what happens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about trade.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but now let's let's segue to the trade of

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<v Speaker 3>the best player of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to save the Otani one for last yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so arm you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is this is a rental move too, but

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<v Speaker 3>this will probably be one of the most expensive rental

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<v Speaker 3>moves out there, and I think there's a team that

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<v Speaker 3>can justify it very easily. I know the Padres are

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<v Speaker 3>were plying better right now, and I just I'm I

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<v Speaker 3>want to see them kind of fall apart so that

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<v Speaker 3>this trade can go down, because this trade would amp

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<v Speaker 3>me up.

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<v Speaker 4>Blake's now to the Orioles. I just I would love

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<v Speaker 4>that more than anything.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think with where the Orioles are at in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of how they're performing this season, on top of

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that their system is so damn good, I

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<v Speaker 3>think they can pay for the steepest rental. Like if

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<v Speaker 3>you're the Reds you're not paying for the steepest rental.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're you know, some of these other teams that

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<v Speaker 3>are playing well, even the Giants, like, you're not paying

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<v Speaker 3>for the steepest rental. I really think it makes sense

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<v Speaker 3>for the O's and they can even consider extending him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to be a free agent again. It's another

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<v Speaker 3>trial period for the Orioles. I would love to see

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<v Speaker 3>the O's go get Snell and give up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think of what a couple months of

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<v Speaker 3>one of the guy that's pitching like one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best pitchers in baseball may look like it's ultimately just

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a bidding war. But if I offer

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<v Speaker 3>Connor Norby and you know, a solid mid level prospect,

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<v Speaker 3>is anyone going to top that for a couple months

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<v Speaker 3>of blake'snew.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you do Norby and McDermott. Yeah, yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know who's topping that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think anyone really could.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Orioles wouldn't even feel it, not, not not even remotely.

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<v Speaker 2>They might that they made the trait, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it still won't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>They still won't do it. Knowing the Orioles even though

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<v Speaker 1>that makes total sense that they should.

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<v Speaker 4>They'll say, now it's two months, we don't We're building

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<v Speaker 4>for the future here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like McDermott and Norby is a great return for

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<v Speaker 3>a rental, like unbelievable return. So I'm about a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that in Norby that could play second base for them

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow if they needed it. And you know, you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing somebody like, uh, why am I John a blank?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Jake crodin Worth struggling like pretty badly. I think they

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<v Speaker 3>could just use another solid infield back. We'll see if

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to retain uh, we'll see if they retain

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<v Speaker 3>Hassum Kim after this year. But again, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>just good to get a good bat and just a

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<v Speaker 3>solid prospect. But even if it's not Norby, like, you

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<v Speaker 3>could interchange a lot of different other you know, prospects

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<v Speaker 3>that are kind of in that range, and Judd Fabian

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<v Speaker 3>may be of interest. There's I think they could especially

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<v Speaker 3>after drafting drafting somebody in that plays the outfield as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think that that kind of makes it

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<v Speaker 3>feel a little bit better. They went out and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they've they've drafted several of hitters still in Beavers, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I don't know, I just feel like I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like they're kind of fine in the outfield, So especially

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<v Speaker 3>after drafting Bradfield, they might just be fine. And and

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<v Speaker 3>they're loaded out there right now. Could be a good

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<v Speaker 3>time to catch it on Fabian and you know, but

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<v Speaker 3>it might be a lot for rental.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have two teams that we've talked about before

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to workshop what they could do. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to kind of talk about what I've been

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about the Otawni trade in general. So Artie Moreno,

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<v Speaker 1>the owner of the Los Angeles Angels, says that he

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<v Speaker 1>does not want to trade Otanni to the Dodgers. He

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<v Speaker 1>has come out and he's basically said, we are not

1:11:55.880 --> 1:11:59.360
<v Speaker 1>trading him to our neighbor. We're just not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it right. And I even if it like impacts

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<v Speaker 1>the team more, even if they could give the best offer,

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<v Speaker 1>they just don't want to train him to the Dodters.

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of took the Dodgers out of the equation.

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<v Speaker 1>Another team that we talked about, the Rangers. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>see them trading sho Hao Tani within the division. I

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<v Speaker 1>just cannot see it right. The Yankees have been floated.

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<v Speaker 1>The Yankees suck. They're not fucking trading for Otani. They

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<v Speaker 1>just aren't. If they do, I would love that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the most love of being wrong of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys should fucking boom him after a week.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, after a week he give them two ruds

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<v Speaker 1>and six innings that we boom off the field, he'd

1:12:39.840 --> 1:12:42.040
<v Speaker 1>probably want to leave it their reside anyway. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>not getting traded to the Yankees. So who are the

1:12:43.800 --> 1:12:45.920
<v Speaker 1>two other teams that make a lot of sense? The

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<v Speaker 1>Giants and the Rays? And we could definitely workshop those

1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:54.720
<v Speaker 1>two teams. But I got a plums pick, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a classic Peter Apple. Ain't gonna happen. But it's a

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<v Speaker 1>damn fun conversation and it kind of makes sense. The

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Phillies. Oh and I'll tell you why. So First,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Dombrowski is a crazy man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he he.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't give a shit about leveraging the farm and giving

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<v Speaker 1>up for a big piece like Otani. Like I bet

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Dombrowski is sitting in his office right now and

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<v Speaker 1>being like nobody's talking about us, and he's just there's

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<v Speaker 1>something brewing in that stomach of his. And to add

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<v Speaker 1>O Tawni to the fold with this Phillies team that

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<v Speaker 1>is just on the rise, that could be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things where it's like, yeah, we made it to

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series. We're trying to win this shit this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So I could see Dave Dombrowski, And remember, Dave Dombrowski

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<v Speaker 1>does things that nobody ever expects and he just overpays,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't make a lot of sense when we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about logical things.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm there that.

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<v Speaker 1>History there between Dobrowski and the Angels. They made a

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<v Speaker 1>trades before, So who are the players that would be involved?

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<v Speaker 1>And remember, if I'm Dave dom Browski, we gotta think

1:13:58.720 --> 1:14:02.400
<v Speaker 1>inside the brain of dumb he's over paying, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a guy when we're doing these mock trades, I'm always

1:14:05.520 --> 1:14:08.759
<v Speaker 1>over paying anyway. So yeah, Dobrowski and I could definitely

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<v Speaker 1>go get a beer. We talk about trading everybody out

1:14:11.040 --> 1:14:15.360
<v Speaker 1>to the Sun for showy Otani, So who would be

1:14:15.400 --> 1:14:19.400
<v Speaker 1>those prospects? Painter is getting Tommy John and I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the Phillies would trade him, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting him out of there. But it has to

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<v Speaker 1>start with Mickabel. It just does like Mickabel another top

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<v Speaker 1>pitching prospect. And if Aaron Nola leaves in free agency,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Phillies, like Dobrowski will give Otadi like

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred trillion dollars. I truly think that he might

1:14:37.120 --> 1:14:40.040
<v Speaker 1>end up doing that. Does it make sense again, probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Dombrowski do things that don't make a lot of sense? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and it works. They go to the World Series. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking Mickabel and then this is where I need

1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:52.479
<v Speaker 1>your guys's help. But if the Phillies were to trade

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<v Speaker 1>for Otani Mickabel, like, would they put Griff McGarry in there?

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<v Speaker 1>And then would it be a guy like Roha who's

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<v Speaker 1>an outfielder's twenty two years old?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's actually good. That was pretty solid.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so much, it's so much it has to be.

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<v Speaker 1>For a rental, but like it's it's the greatest player

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<v Speaker 1>in team sports. I said that on Twitter and people

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<v Speaker 1>were like, what about Connor McDavid. Connor McDavid, Yeah, is

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<v Speaker 1>he the greatest goalie in hockey?

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<v Speaker 2>He's not even a goalie. He doesn't move exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm saying if he was also the one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best hockey Yeah, right, Like it's not Yannis, it's

1:15:30.600 --> 1:15:36.400
<v Speaker 1>not your kitsch, it's not Mahomes, it's Mahomes. Mahomes. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>because how the defense, How's how's mahomes ability to play cornerbacker, linebacker?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the greatest player in team sports. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is a rental. And Dombrowski just feels like that dude

1:15:47.080 --> 1:15:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that nobody's talking about, I'm like, we got it. We

1:15:49.240 --> 1:15:51.479
<v Speaker 1>got to bring him up somehow because there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>that he is a good See.

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<v Speaker 3>We have had him draft way too quiet. It's a

1:15:55.800 --> 1:15:58.240
<v Speaker 3>good point, like we've walked nobody to the Phillies. They're

1:15:58.240 --> 1:16:00.800
<v Speaker 3>playing good ball, they're in the high they're gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>some shit. Yeah, Like Dobrowski's probably itching to give up

1:16:04.320 --> 1:16:07.439
<v Speaker 3>Ben Brown for Robertson again. He's itching to do something

1:16:07.479 --> 1:16:09.960
<v Speaker 3>like that. Who Jack just saw a shove the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>Shove.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a NEBRASKI doesn't even know who bick Able is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just a tab on a piece of payper And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, yeah, he's got a great number. Is perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's give for let's give for Otai. He's the George Steinbrenner.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I miss with the Yankees. Cash Man's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>our eighth and ninth ranked prospects, I'm pretty close fucking

1:16:26.200 --> 1:16:29.920
<v Speaker 1>shut up, Nerd trade some of these prospects for big

1:16:29.960 --> 1:16:32.200
<v Speaker 1>time guys. That's why I like Dombrowski and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Phillies guy now way.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think perryman Asian would do this. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you Otani, but I need able. I don't want

1:16:42.840 --> 1:16:45.479
<v Speaker 2>other prospects though, I want a big leaguer. Give me

1:16:45.600 --> 1:16:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Mick Abel and Bryson Stott for Otani.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking that, and that just made my stomach

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<v Speaker 1>turn because I love Bryson Stott and like or that.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Harrison's your second basement in the World Series. I

1:16:56.280 --> 1:16:58.920
<v Speaker 1>mean maybe Josh Harrison's been in some great rundowns.

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<v Speaker 2>Sosa is your second of the World Series. Yeah, Sorber

1:17:04.200 --> 1:17:06.960
<v Speaker 2>can play second. Yeah, actually no, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Would back behind the dish.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Schwarbert Catcher as soon as Harper's ucl is fine,

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<v Speaker 2>put him at third and put Bom at short.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck it, we're just gonna hit. Yeah, we'll get up

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<v Speaker 1>the ruds. We just got out hit him.

1:17:20.960 --> 1:17:23.120
<v Speaker 3>JT was drafted as a short stop. Maybe they could

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<v Speaker 3>stick him there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think like I could. I could absolutely see

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<v Speaker 2>Perry Manassian doing that and saying like, we need a big.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaguer, would it be? I mean, do you think no,

1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:40.439
<v Speaker 1>they won't? Like but I think I'm just looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the rotation, like if the Angels want an arm two

1:17:43.160 --> 1:17:48.840
<v Speaker 1>ready now, Like, it's not Nolah Wheeler, Like I know

1:17:48.920 --> 1:17:53.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not Sures either, it's not. Obviously it's not. It's

1:17:53.160 --> 1:17:56.200
<v Speaker 1>a Christopher Sanchez that ain't that ain't pushing the button.

1:17:56.479 --> 1:17:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, is it Ranger?

1:17:59.439 --> 1:17:59.519
<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Because no, So it has to be these prospects. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like we can workshop the Rais and

1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:09.559
<v Speaker 1>the Giants, right they could actually make it off or

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense for the podcast help us sleep at night,

1:18:12.360 --> 1:18:13.880
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh we were so safe with that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job boys, you know what I'm saying. But I

1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:20.080
<v Speaker 1>think the Phillies could really make a splash here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's one of those teams that's too damn quiet

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I will say this too, Mick Abel's a really

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<v Speaker 3>talented arm and top one hundred prospect, no doubt, but

1:18:29.560 --> 1:18:32.519
<v Speaker 3>he's not like in this tier of his own, like

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Paynter even without the Tommy John Like, I'm not

1:18:35.280 --> 1:18:38.960
<v Speaker 3>trading him in and Otani rental deal because Painter is

1:18:39.600 --> 1:18:40.439
<v Speaker 3>was right there with Yuri.

1:18:40.520 --> 1:18:41.320
<v Speaker 4>They were neck and neck, and.

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<v Speaker 1>If trading Holiday and yeah, it's just like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it just doesn't seem like it makes enough sense

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<v Speaker 3>unless you're getting a superstar for four or five years.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, if it was a Sodo deal, then

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<v Speaker 3>then we're talking. But Abel is struggling with command, like

1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:58.160
<v Speaker 3>the numbers have still not been that great. He could

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<v Speaker 3>figure it out and be a really good starter, but

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<v Speaker 3>there's still plenty of risk there, Like there's a chance

1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:04.200
<v Speaker 3>that you might not even think about it at all

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<v Speaker 3>in a couple of years if you move Able and

1:19:07.680 --> 1:19:10.559
<v Speaker 3>McGarry's another guy with horrible command by the way, uh,

1:19:10.760 --> 1:19:12.960
<v Speaker 3>and then Rojas, like those are three guys that you

1:19:13.000 --> 1:19:15.600
<v Speaker 3>know for the Angels to get that for rental phenomenal

1:19:15.680 --> 1:19:18.760
<v Speaker 3>that's great. Able is instantly their best pitching prospect, and

1:19:19.040 --> 1:19:21.599
<v Speaker 3>you've got, you know, two other pieces that are big

1:19:21.600 --> 1:19:23.639
<v Speaker 3>for you, and Rowas could end up playing center field

1:19:23.640 --> 1:19:25.680
<v Speaker 3>for you. Is Trout maybe starts to slow down and

1:19:25.680 --> 1:19:28.479
<v Speaker 3>move elsewhere in DH A lot so well better than

1:19:28.520 --> 1:19:31.400
<v Speaker 3>trout Now, yeah, maniac is legitimately better.

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<v Speaker 4>But also one more note on this, Peter former.

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<v Speaker 3>The line of communications here, the line of communications here.

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<v Speaker 3>They've traded together. Perry and Dombrowski specifically worked out a

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<v Speaker 3>trade that most teams would not agree to. You know

1:19:44.400 --> 1:19:46.479
<v Speaker 3>how hard it is to get your prospect from my prospect.

1:19:46.520 --> 1:19:48.240
<v Speaker 3>We talk about that all the time, or your youngster

1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:50.599
<v Speaker 3>for my youngster. I always like my youngster more than

1:19:50.600 --> 1:19:52.640
<v Speaker 3>your youngster. And if I don't like my youngster more

1:19:52.680 --> 1:19:55.040
<v Speaker 3>than your youngster, then I'm wary because I'm like, what

1:19:55.040 --> 1:19:56.040
<v Speaker 3>do you know that I don't?

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<v Speaker 4>So that marsh for ohappy swap. I mean there's some.

1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Amic ability here, So I'm I'm like, this is your

1:20:02.880 --> 1:20:04.960
<v Speaker 3>some of your best Galaxy brain work, Peter.

1:20:06.200 --> 1:20:07.160
<v Speaker 1>One of them's got a hit.

1:20:09.200 --> 1:20:13.040
<v Speaker 4>Yes, should we fly through like a raise one?

1:20:13.400 --> 1:20:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1:20:13.760 --> 1:20:15.519
<v Speaker 4>Like the Rays actually make.

1:20:15.439 --> 1:20:17.200
<v Speaker 1>The most sense. But I keep thinking to myself, like

1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:20.720
<v Speaker 1>are the Giants you know, according to you guys, every

1:20:20.760 --> 1:20:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Giants prospect is the best player of all time, So

1:20:23.000 --> 1:20:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't trade any of those.

1:20:24.439 --> 1:20:26.080
<v Speaker 2>The Rays is the main thing.

1:20:26.240 --> 1:20:27.760
<v Speaker 1>No, No, that's how I heard it, So that's all

1:20:27.760 --> 1:20:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about it. So the Rays their top prospects,

1:20:31.800 --> 1:20:33.439
<v Speaker 1>No way they can all get traded because they're all

1:20:33.439 --> 1:20:35.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be perennial All Stars too. So the Rays

1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and Giants technically can't trade anybody. According to you guys, yeahs.

1:20:43.760 --> 1:20:46.320
<v Speaker 2>To Tampa. This is just off the dome. Otani to

1:20:46.400 --> 1:20:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Tampa for Wander Yes, wander Arose Arena and McClanahan to

1:20:55.680 --> 1:21:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Tampa for Ronda and Ronnie Simon. Is that too much?

1:21:06.439 --> 1:21:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people just logged off the show.

1:21:08.520 --> 1:21:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's pretty ass. It's pretty asking for to the

1:21:13.080 --> 1:21:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Phillies offer.

1:21:14.160 --> 1:21:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I know it would have to be Mead and the need.

1:21:17.880 --> 1:21:19.320
<v Speaker 4>Would have to be in there that it'd be like

1:21:19.360 --> 1:21:22.439
<v Speaker 4>Granda Mead and then a piece. And that's honestly pretty

1:21:22.520 --> 1:21:23.480
<v Speaker 4>damn good.

1:21:25.120 --> 1:21:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Junior Cameron. I always saw in the Futures Game that

1:21:27.280 --> 1:21:30.160
<v Speaker 1>dude is a fucking training No, I'm just talking about it.

1:21:30.200 --> 1:21:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, No, he's a train engine.

1:21:33.280 --> 1:21:34.360
<v Speaker 4>He's unbelievable.

1:21:34.439 --> 1:21:37.679
<v Speaker 1>He's like just another Yondie, except he played better defense.

1:21:37.720 --> 1:21:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and he's fucking nineteen and he looks like that.

1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Dude's a truck.

1:21:41.800 --> 1:21:45.720
<v Speaker 4>The Rays got him for Tobias Myers from the Guardians.

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<v Speaker 1>You just made it.

1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:50.040
<v Speaker 4>He's pitching.

1:21:50.120 --> 1:21:52.639
<v Speaker 3>Tobias Myers was was a forty It was a forty

1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:56.200
<v Speaker 3>man situation, which is really funny. So the Guardians are like,

1:21:56.720 --> 1:21:59.000
<v Speaker 3>let's let's move an arm because we need to clear

1:21:59.080 --> 1:22:03.000
<v Speaker 3>up some forty man space, and legitimately, just like I

1:22:03.160 --> 1:22:05.360
<v Speaker 3>just excuse me, the Rays, We're like, let's move an arm.

1:22:05.520 --> 1:22:07.840
<v Speaker 4>We need the forty men space. And the Guardians are like, oh,

1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:08.519
<v Speaker 4>we'll take an arm.

1:22:08.680 --> 1:22:10.960
<v Speaker 3>We'll give you a lower level flyer here. You can

1:22:11.000 --> 1:22:13.160
<v Speaker 3>take junior common Arrow, like that's who they ask for,

1:22:13.240 --> 1:22:14.080
<v Speaker 3>and now he's.

1:22:13.920 --> 1:22:15.439
<v Speaker 4>The top five prospect in baseball.

1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Tobias Myers is now pitching in Double A, not even

1:22:19.000 --> 1:22:21.920
<v Speaker 3>triple so kind of shows you what's up there.

1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they could trade Carson Williams right shortstop what

1:22:25.120 --> 1:22:27.600
<v Speaker 1>they for thirty years?

1:22:28.000 --> 1:22:30.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I love Carson Williams.

1:22:30.840 --> 1:22:33.559
<v Speaker 3>But in an Otawi deal, one hundred percent, you do

1:22:33.680 --> 1:22:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Ronda Carson Williams and then you can probably keep Meat instead,

1:22:37.280 --> 1:22:40.000
<v Speaker 3>who fits more into it. Positionally, you can play third

1:22:40.080 --> 1:22:42.599
<v Speaker 3>or first or whatever. You trade Carson Williams and Ronda

1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:46.240
<v Speaker 3>and like Mason Montgomery. That's a really damn good offer.

1:22:46.280 --> 1:22:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I agree, and then you want to work

1:22:49.680 --> 1:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>shop the Giants real quick because the Giants are another

1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:53.800
<v Speaker 1>team where I don't see any reason why they couldn't.

1:22:54.000 --> 1:22:55.600
<v Speaker 3>So the reason why I think the Giants should do

1:22:55.680 --> 1:22:57.880
<v Speaker 3>it is I think they're gonna pay.

1:22:57.960 --> 1:22:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Like.

1:22:58.080 --> 1:22:59.639
<v Speaker 4>I think they're gonna make one of the best offers.

1:22:59.640 --> 1:23:02.240
<v Speaker 3>We've talked about how like they've been trying to pay Judge,

1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:05.639
<v Speaker 3>they've been they tried to pay Korea. And if you

1:23:05.680 --> 1:23:08.120
<v Speaker 3>give up the prospect capital, it helps you this year,

1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:11.360
<v Speaker 3>but you also buy that negotiating window for a couple

1:23:11.320 --> 1:23:13.000
<v Speaker 3>of months where you know you could kind of get

1:23:13.000 --> 1:23:16.040
<v Speaker 3>a head start on trying to lock up Otani before

1:23:16.080 --> 1:23:18.160
<v Speaker 3>he hits free agency. I don't know if he'd be

1:23:18.200 --> 1:23:20.240
<v Speaker 3>willing to negotiate through the next couple of months, but

1:23:20.560 --> 1:23:24.160
<v Speaker 3>there's a chance, and you have that negotiating window. Now,

1:23:24.200 --> 1:23:28.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm trading Reggie Crawford Peter Now. Now Reggie Crawford can go.

1:23:28.360 --> 1:23:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know he's hitting and he's a first rounder.

1:23:31.160 --> 1:23:32.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah he can kick rocks now.

1:23:33.200 --> 1:23:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for Paul de Young and Tyler O'Neal.

1:23:38.960 --> 1:23:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Surious, just curious, who would you who would the Cardinals

1:23:44.000 --> 1:23:47.040
<v Speaker 1>need to give the Giants for Reggie Crawford because I'm

1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a Tyler. I ain't afraid to say it.

1:23:49.240 --> 1:23:57.559
<v Speaker 2>I just am all right Carlson or Aeronato. Oh, Reggie

1:23:57.560 --> 1:24:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Crawford for Carlson, Reggie Crawford for Carlson.

1:24:01.680 --> 1:24:04.840
<v Speaker 3>I think even a little bit more, slightly more Reddie

1:24:04.840 --> 1:24:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Crawford and like a little level piece.

1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, I would prefer Dylan Carlson over Tyler on Neil.

1:24:10.360 --> 1:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I just there's something in there, and maybe it's the body.

1:24:13.240 --> 1:24:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm to look at him too much. The pheromones

1:24:16.240 --> 1:24:19.439
<v Speaker 1>are kicking your ass. They are. I fall into it.

1:24:19.479 --> 1:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a Dobrowski guy, so fall in love.

1:24:22.520 --> 1:24:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Could you imagine the episode when whoever acquires Tyler O'Neill,

1:24:26.479 --> 1:24:30.120
<v Speaker 3>like he goes Mannyville and Los Angeles like like Manny

1:24:30.200 --> 1:24:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Ramirez dead and hits four hundred for like two months,

1:24:32.960 --> 1:24:34.880
<v Speaker 3>and Peter's gonna come back on the podcast and just

1:24:35.000 --> 1:24:35.960
<v Speaker 3>say fuck you.

1:24:35.920 --> 1:24:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I will you know what's gonna happen.

1:24:37.320 --> 1:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Let you forget it.

1:24:38.439 --> 1:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco is gonna go get Tyler O'Neal for Carson

1:24:41.080 --> 1:24:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Wizen Hunts straight up, and he's gonna come back and

1:24:42.800 --> 1:24:44.280
<v Speaker 2>flip the bird when we hop on.

1:24:44.280 --> 1:24:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Soon and Carson Wizard is going to suck for the Cardinals. Yes,

1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:52.640
<v Speaker 1>he'll be a libert toward two point oh yeah no,

1:24:52.720 --> 1:24:55.120
<v Speaker 1>but let's finish the giants for a Tawny deal just

1:24:55.160 --> 1:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>real quick. So it would probably be I mean, it

1:24:58.280 --> 1:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>would have to be. It's it's show O Tawny, Kyle

1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Harrison see you later, or Carson wisdon hud to see

1:25:05.920 --> 1:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you later. This is show O Tawni. We're talking about

1:25:08.120 --> 1:25:08.919
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Crawford.

1:25:09.200 --> 1:25:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Come, would you do?

1:25:10.080 --> 1:25:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Would you do Harrison and Crawford for Otani? Yeah, yeah,

1:25:14.840 --> 1:25:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that's some. No, I think those two.

1:25:18.680 --> 1:25:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Then he's going to Dombrowski because Dombrowski is overpaying.

1:25:22.479 --> 1:25:23.120
<v Speaker 2>That's fine.

1:25:23.439 --> 1:25:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do Luciano and and and wizden Hunt even

1:25:28.680 --> 1:25:30.800
<v Speaker 3>like I do two of some of those.

1:25:31.120 --> 1:25:33.439
<v Speaker 2>And that's a better return than Harrison and Crawford, Luciano

1:25:33.479 --> 1:25:34.120
<v Speaker 2>and wizen Hunt.

1:25:34.240 --> 1:25:35.160
<v Speaker 4>That's as high as i'd go.

1:25:35.479 --> 1:25:36.000
<v Speaker 2>That's better.

1:25:36.600 --> 1:25:37.479
<v Speaker 4>It's as high as i'd go.

1:25:38.840 --> 1:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>But then Dombrowski would be like, fine, we'll give you

1:25:41.080 --> 1:25:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Harper fuck it, yes exactly.

1:25:43.880 --> 1:25:45.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you could get stop too.

1:25:46.920 --> 1:25:48.519
<v Speaker 2>All right, take us out, baby boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I fire you up? Come on, don't say that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to fire you up. Anything else that we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta and not. Oh yeah, games of the week there

1:26:47.439 --> 1:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>are games of the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nah, screw it, screw it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were gonna be all right about them anyway. So

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<v Speaker 1>for that, Jack or we'll be back on Monday. And

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<v Speaker 1>with that think its

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<v Speaker 3>MHM.