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Speaker 1: Welcome to this country Life. I'm your host, Brent Reeves

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Speaker 1: from coon hunting to trot lining and just general country living.

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Speaker 1: I want you to stay a while as I share

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Speaker 1: my stories and the country skills that will help you

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Speaker 1: beat the system. This Country Life is proudly presented as

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Speaker 1: part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network, bringing you the best

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Speaker 1: outdoor podcast the airways have to offer. All right, friends,

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Speaker 1: pull you up a chair or drop that tailgate. I

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Speaker 1: think I got a thing or two and teach you

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Speaker 1: net fishing. Here we go again. Just when you thought

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Speaker 1: it was safe enough to get back in the water,

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Speaker 1: here come the Reeves brothers with another round of net fishing.

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Speaker 1: This one isn't a sequel, how too. Episode This one

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Speaker 1: is going to be more of a wake up grandpa

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Speaker 1: and go get the neighbors because y'all ain't gonna believe

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Speaker 1: what we did episode. I promise you we were more

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Speaker 1: surprised than the fish we caught. I'm going to tell

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Speaker 1: you all about it, but first I'm going to tell

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Speaker 1: you a story. Like a lot of my stories, you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be surprised that this one is about my

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Speaker 1: brother Tim and me. It's a short one, but relevant.

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Speaker 1: Just the same now. I've been kind of sitting on

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Speaker 1: it since the beginning of this country life podcast. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't really fit a narrative or go along with any

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Speaker 1: podcast subject matter other than maybe if I did an

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Speaker 1: episode dedicated completely to dumb things we have done. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: this happened over thirty years ago, and at the time

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Speaker 1: I lived a mile and a half from where my

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Speaker 1: brother still lives. We did everything together all the time.

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Speaker 1: He was either at my house or I was at

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Speaker 1: his house, or we were together at the country store

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Speaker 1: listening to the old folks talk, or down to Dad's

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Speaker 1: house or over at his in law's house, who looked

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Speaker 1: at me as if I was just an extra family member.

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Speaker 1: We were all close. None of that has anything to

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Speaker 1: that we lived close together, and by lived close together,

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Speaker 1: I mean in totality. If we weren't physically together, we

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Speaker 1: passed each other's house, or we ran into each other

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Speaker 1: at the country store, or met each other on the road. Now,

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Speaker 1: meeting each other on the road one afternoon would most

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Speaker 1: times have us playing an impromptu game of chicken by

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Speaker 1: dodging at the other's vehicle like we were going to

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Speaker 1: run them off the road. I do not recommend this,

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Speaker 1: nor do either of us still participate in this tomfoolery. Now.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you right now are fast

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Speaker 1: forwarding to the punchline and thinking to yourself, those idiots

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Speaker 1: you'd be wrong. We did something dumb, not stupid, not really.

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Speaker 1: Well maybe, but it wasn't our finest hour, to be sure.

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Speaker 1: And this incident did involve both of our trucks, but

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Speaker 1: no damage to either vehicle was done, none whatsoever, and

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Speaker 1: we both maintained complete control of everything except our senses.

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Speaker 1: Late one afternoon, I pulled onto the highway from a

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Speaker 1: three quarters of a mile further away, and he pulled

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Speaker 1: It was like synchronized swimming. I felt quite sure that

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Speaker 1: he thought to himself as he saw me coming, something

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Speaker 1: We need to do something cool. Well. The evening sun

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Speaker 1: My sister in law barbagings like the jewel she is

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Speaker 1: as the dim witted brothers. Tim's truck slowly crept toward

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Speaker 1: to give the other the coolest high five in recorded history.

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Speaker 1: I could see them both playing as day. Tim arms

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been enough contact to light a kitchen

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Speaker 1: a good thing it wasn't any more than that, because

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Speaker 1: ever are. And that's just how that happened. Five episodes ago,

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Speaker 1: around podcast number one ninety three, I talked about fishing

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Speaker 1: Talked about my friend Jerry Bowser down in Louisiana that

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Speaker 1: told us how to fish the hoop nets that I have.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you an update on the hoop

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Speaker 1: talk about those wire nets some more. We'd fished them

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Speaker 1: same spot as last year. A year ago. We had

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Speaker 1: maybe a dozen fish total out of all three nets.

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Speaker 1: seen fishing the wire nets. Their fiddler nets, named for

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Speaker 1: the smaller catfish that they target, and the only difference

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Speaker 1: good YouTube content on his channel God's Country Hunting and Fishing.

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Speaker 1: He goes into a lot of detail on how he

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Speaker 1: what type of nets he fishes, how to repair damage nets,

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Speaker 1: can take a roll of twine, a net needle, and

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Speaker 1: is the upcoming Turkey season. It has me traveling in

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Speaker 1: I ain't complaining, but I can't wait to get to

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Speaker 1: fishings because once Turkey season is done, I'm a commercial fisherman.

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Speaker 1: I bought my license this week and have the tags

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Speaker 1: me and my brother Tim fishing before I bought this license.

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Speaker 1: You need to understand how this works. You can purchase

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Speaker 1: and this allows any resident of Arkansas with a valid

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Speaker 1: running the nets. That's what I and Tim were doing.

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Speaker 1: He has the commercial license and I was his helper.

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Speaker 1: As evidenced in the answer video. Someone commented that Brin

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Speaker 1: pilot instructor, but I'm still the little brother. Where was

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Speaker 1: I going with this? Oh? Yeah, the wire nets Tim

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Speaker 1: and I set out on the day a couple of

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Speaker 1: That was the place where we caught the most fish

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Speaker 1: last year, all nine of them. We had a total

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Speaker 1: pound grinnel we had in one of our nets. It's

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Speaker 1: also called a bowfend, and I read an article on

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Speaker 1: Arkansas Wild dot com that described it as, and I

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Speaker 1: quote the author, a prehistoric, bone headed, air breathing, ealy finned,

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Speaker 1: that fishermen loved to hate. That was eloquently put Mark Spitzer.

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Speaker 1: I still got to get my hoop nets prepped in

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