WEBVTT - 117: Thanks for the Memories 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:15.120 Hello and welcome to the final episode of Nerdificent. For 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.599 the last time, I am one half of your host, 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:26.560 Danny Fernandez. Sorry, sorry, no, you're perfect. I did too 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.360 long of a pause, if you know, an improv like 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.600 you were ready to swoop up and swoop in, so 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.320 we didn't have any dead air. Trying to keep the 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.919 air alive, the fresh air. Yeah, how's it going. It's 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:43.120 iffy wandy way in the building. How how's the how's 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.560 How are you feeling? I'm feeling good. I hope people are. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.200 You know, I get being sad about the show ending, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.040 but you know, you can still the show lives on. 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.720 You can go back and listen to episodes, and especially 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:02.480 like as these franchises and things they're dropping new you know, Marvel, 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.560 d C, Star Wars, but like everything else we covered 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.560 anime like as there as. You need a refresher before 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.039 a lot of these properties start dropping the next year 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.760 or two. Yeah, but also you can still follow our careers. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.080 We're going to be doing a lot, so yeah, truly, 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.200 you could just just stay following on on the twitters 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:27.800 and you won't miss a single thing. Probably today we 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.040 have a couple of guests just to kick off our 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.920 our final episode. But up top we have a man 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.080 who I think you have done the most episodes of 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:39.480 the show. It is Hector Navarro. Welcome, so happy to 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.040 be here. Guys. How many did I do? I did 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:45.440 at least two? Was it just two to three? Really? Okay? 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.520 I did m c U. You did Nicktoons and Batman 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:54.520 Tunes and Batman I did Batman Cool? We do? We did? 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.880 We did a refresher before Infinity War two and that's 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.560 when you brought all your cards. So that's for oh man, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:06.320 that was my Marvel Cinematic Universe card set four. I guess. Wow. Well, no, 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.280 I think that was the m c U on much 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.800 we did too, because we did the original one. Yeah, 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.600 and then I think we had you back. You came 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:17.400 back before the end game. Wow. In any case, it 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.920 has been an honor and absoluting you both. It was 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.600 a pleasure. Thank you guys for having me back. Yeah. No, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.280 of course, we you know, we we had to, you know, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.120 bring you back to to bring it down for a landing. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.560 H y'all are some of my favorite folks and I 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.480 have loved nerdificent from the beginning. And uh, you guys 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.200 had a fantastic run. So I hope that you guys 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.760 are really proud, like genuinely proud of a really cool 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:46.480 thing that you guys did. So congrats always, I guess 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.600 to kick it off, like, if you of those ones 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.520 that we listed with Hector, what stands out for you 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.200 as far as like some of your favorite moments. Oh, 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.400 it's definitely going to be the m c U whichever 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.640 one you bought the cards too, because that's when I 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.040 was like, Yeah, this is this is why we call 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:06.280 a hector. Hector is going to make sure that all 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.760 of that that we don't miss a single thing. He's 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.919 going to make sure that beat for beat, you know, 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.480 he has his bases covered. I mean even when we 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:20.600 were talking about you know, um, I think which one 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.960 was we brought you brought like the Almanac or something 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.360 at one time and we were talking about no that 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.480 was on Twitter or something, whether I was asking about 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.120 Wakanda and now this was we should we should set 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.560 this up if he This was before the Black Panther 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.960 movie was released and and everybody was discussing the character 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.160 of Black Panther, the comic book of Black Panther, the 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:48.000 idea behind it, and you posed such a great question 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:54.800 as to like, why would this fictional group of people 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.400 allow atrocities to happen if they were in fact advanced 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.560 and they had enough of UM technology or resources to 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.920 like fight back or help. And it's not the first 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.440 time I saw that arguments, not the first time I 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.360 saw somebody bring that up. Certainly not the first time 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.520 I saw a black man bring that up. And so 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:17.039 I remember going back to my rolodex and being like, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.880 as far as I can recall, the only in universe 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:26.120 explanation was that Stanley jack Herby, whoever then worked on 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:30.320 Black Panther comic books afterwards, like established that it was 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:34.680 an isolationist country that they closed themselves off to the 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.280 world to protect themselves. And we had a great and 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:38.800 I like pulled it up and I took pictures of 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.520 like the encyclopedia explanation of that, because I have a 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.239 Marvel atlas that gives you the history of ah fictional country. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.799 So there's like Wakonda, lat Veria where Dr Doom rules 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.760 and all these different fake places, Genosha where Magneto eventually 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.279 ruled the Mutant Island nation. So Wakonda had that in there, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.080 and I took pictures and you know, it was talking 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.599 to Iffy back and forth. But then I remember that 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:05.040 that helped me to appreciate the movie Black Panther more 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.000 because when we went back to talk about the m 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.240 c U and the movie Black Panther and everything that 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.080 it had evolved into. I think part of the discussion, 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:17.960 which was great, was like Ryan Coogler recognized this. Ryan 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:22.120 Coogler and his co writer collaborator recognized this, and they're 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.480 black men and they wrote that as part of the 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.159 backstory for the villain Eric Stevens, a k A. Kill Monger, 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.760 and what a villain and what a motivation. He kind 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.440 of wasn't wrong. He just killed people and that's messed up. 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.760 But that's that was a highlight for me. And talking 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.680 about the m c U with you guys and especially 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:47.279 with Iffy, that was a blast. Yeah, I would say 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.320 for me, aside from that, which I think was really helpful, 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.760 Like for people, you just had a way of talking 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.440 because you we did our Road to Infinity War was 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.560 that what it was or something like that. It was 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.000 insane because you were just able to quickly update people. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.560 And then there were some movies like you can watch 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.440 this you don't have to. One of my favorite things 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:14.760 was you actually also have an entire encyclopedia on Nicktoons, 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.000 and so we did our Nicktoons episode, you were able 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.320 to pull that out and talk about the start of Nicktoons. 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.600 I forgot that. What is your favorite Nicktoons show? That's 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.840 a great question if we're not counting, because I think 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.440 we all know Avatar the Last a Band is amazing, 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.560 and if we don't, if we don't consider that, because 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.280 it's something that I think not to dis Nickelodeon or 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.800 Nicktoons in the same way that like I wouldn't dis 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.320 Cartoon Network or like Disney Channel cartoons or you know, 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.560 w B Cartoons or whatever. But like Avatar and then 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.640 Cora felt like they transcended Nickelodeon a little bit, like 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.320 they really kind of right, they got to another level. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.479 So if we're just if we're excluding them from the 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.479 conversation and we're like, no, this is a straight up Nicktoon. 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.080 But I do want to say also a big part 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:00.880 of the reason why at hard of The Last Airbender 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.240 was so good was because of that infrastructure of Nickelodeon 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.400 letting those animators do what they did, so like that's 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.040 a Nickelodeon show too, you know that when that was made, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.400 When and where it was made, and who let those 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.560 creators make it, that's all Nickelodeon. But let's be real. 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.720 My favorites probably Hey Arnold. I'm a big Hey Arnold guy. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.960 I really love that show grown up. I I dig SpongeBob, 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.720 but I definitely caught it, you know, late nineties, early 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.520 two thousand's on my way, you know, sort of out 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.600 of that age group, and then SpongeBob turned into a 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.120 well this is funny for adults, and it is, but 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:36.760 by then I was like, yeah, but I'm I'm into 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.600 the Simpsons and you know, South Bark and Family Guy 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.720 and all this other stuff that's more for adults. Um, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.560 but SpongeBob is great. But my favorites, Hey Arnold, what 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.920 are your guys? His favorite nicktoons? Oh? I think you 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.000 know a lot of classic Wren and Stimpy. You know, 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.920 Rocko's Modern Life, not even just because of the jokes itself, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.440 but just the art style was always so interesting and 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.480 kind of pushed the boundaries. But then I you know, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.760 SpongeBob has this special place because I remember the when 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.200 they did show the first ever episode after the Kid's 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.640 Choice Awards, and I was like, oh man, this is wild. 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:16.640 So I remember, yeah, I was so to me, I'm like, okay, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.800 this is a solid one. Um, it's so funny you 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.680 said Hey Arnold because I knew that. I forgot that 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.640 about you. But I should have known because you remind 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:27.320 me of Hey Arnold. Great, thanks, I don't remind you 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.200 of Doug. Funny. I'll take it. I'll take it. Why 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.000 why don't you like Doug? Doug's cool? But Doug was 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.040 a dork Doug, you know, like right, Doug was cool, 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.840 But I was always as a kid, I was like, look, man, 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.880 make a move with Patty or just or stop. But 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.959 then again I was that dorky kid. I don't know. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:48.320 I like spet more. However, I swear to god, if 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.600 Hey Arnold were older, he'd be like the type of 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.000 like white guy in college that tries to teach you 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:59.040 about jazz, like a he's Ryan Gosling. Yeah, So I'm like, yeah, absolutely, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:04.280 he is Ryan Gosling. Um mine, okay, so my favorite. 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.400 So I also grew up adoring Hey Arnold. It tackled 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.079 a lot of different things that I feel like we're 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.480 important it felt different for Nicktoons. Um, just this is 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.400 a shoutout because we didn't even cover Nick Jr. At all. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:21.640 They were doing work like I love Little Bear, like, um, 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.280 a lot of the stuff that they were doing, but 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.880 Little Bear always played like classical music and it always 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:30.040 felt really safe but sticky. With Nicktoons, I would say, um, Rugrats. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.120 I mean I just adore Rugrats. It's great. It was 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.480 just so great and really funny. And again, like when 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.320 you watch it as an adult, there's a lot of 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:41.080 like adult humor in there amongst the parents. Oh yeah, 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:47.240 dr lipshits, Yeah, the child psychologists. Yeah cool. What is 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.360 something that you guys are real proud of looking back 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.600 on netificent, What's something that you're real proud of? Because 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.760 I know here's why I'm bringing this up, because I 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.960 know that you guys get the most amazing positive feedback. 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.959 You get feedback from listeners that is so encouraging and 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:06.000 so inspiring and so cool. So give me a favorite 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.080 piece of feedback that you guys got, or something that 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.840 you're real proud of that led to some like a 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:14.080 great response. Yeah. I think until this day, I still 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.600 really enjoyed when we had our comic con meet up 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.800 because it's like one thing too to to like, you know, 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.600 talk with folks online, which is great, but it is 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:27.400 like something extra cool when you get to see everyone 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.160 face to face and kind of just be around each 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.840 other and enjoy the present, you know, the presence of 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.920 each other. Yeah. For me, I think it's like the 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.800 multitude of guests that we had on which are so 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.400 well versed in every topic that we covered, but allowing 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.000 people to really hopefully open their minds about a lot 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.040 of things, like we've had really difficult, not difficult, but 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.520 like just conversations that a lot of other quote unquote 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.200 nerd podcasts don't have or they're afraid to have, And 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.280 for us it's kind of just like, why can't we 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.960 have these conversations and just be more open to representation 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.600 in comics. When Iffy and I created this show, we 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.160 really wanted to remove gate keeping from the nerd community. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:11.880 We want to be like, Okay, if you don't really 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.400 know about this thing, then it's kind of like your 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.600 philosophy hector, where it's like, let me, let's be passionate 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.560 about it and talk about it, as opposed to being like, 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.640 you don't know about this then this isn't for you. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.319 Instead it was like, oh, you don't know about this, Okay, 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.240 well let's talk about it and bring someone in that 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:30.880 does know. So. But also just yeah, our conversations about 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:35.120 getting to talk about queer characters and gaming, getting to 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.480 talk about representation of women and a lot of these comics, 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.439 representation of people of color, and a lot of these comics, 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.200 and like, also how we were kept out because the 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.320 biggest thing that I see in the comic book community, 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.320 in the nerd community is like, well, this isn't cannon. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.960 They were white, Like this character was white, And I'm like, 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.120 that's because all those characters were white. That was what 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.400 was allowed to exist in the forties. When these were 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.000 made in the forties and fifties, we weren't allowed to 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.840 be in them. So like, it's not going to kill 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.040 you if we change some of these characters to be 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.120 more reflective, because the truth is to me, it's like, well, 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.760 when they came out, they weren't reflective of the actual world. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.760 We existed. We were always around. We didn't just appear 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.920 suddenly in the eighties. We were always around. For me, 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:23.720 It's just like having those conversations about representation. Yeah, and 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.800 is really important. I know, I think it is very 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:31.960 important because it also just kind of nerdifficent. Was such 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.439 a fun thing to have because you know, I've been 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.120 doing you know, nerdy content for a while. Like I 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.520 remember on stream last Friday, We're going back and I 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.240 was reading my old site, that Black Nerd, which was 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.319 a blog I had when I was talking about nerdy stuff, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.720 and I pulled it up because I specifically wanted to 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.680 look because I remember, and I've said this on the 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.520 pod before, that no one you kind of shift my 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.600 like idea of what being a nerd is because like 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.880 everyone's like, oh man, you know, the gate keeping and 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.400 all this stuff and what like. You can change from that. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.240 You don't have to be protective because I wasn't necessarily 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.320 like a full blown gate keeper e guy. But definitely 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:16.720 the way I talked about nerdy stuff is like definitely, 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.960 I wouldn't one never like talk about it that way now. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.360 But it's like some of the way that ignore that 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.719 annoys me now, Like I'm looking at this is uh. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.520 I posted this in August fifth to two thousand and eleven, 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.880 so you know, it was like twenty four and and 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.160 I was talking this is when Miles Morales was first, 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:41.599 you know, uh first like announced and so like I 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.559 wrote a whole thing on like a black Nerds thought 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.520 on a black spider Man and like um and like 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.480 the reading through you know, it's uh like I think, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.920 I like, it's so funny because I wouldn't treat it 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.720 the same now because my my big whole takeaway in 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.720 the is that like it's like, oh, it's not it's 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.680 not that big of a deal because we've had a 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.800 black nick Fury and all this stuff. And also like 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.640 my whole thing and kind of the way I moved 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.840 now is even if I did personally think it's not 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:19.160 that big of a deal, I definitely don't want to 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.240 be like stopping on anyone's parade. I don't want to 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.880 be like you. This is why you shouldn't care, because 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:26.760 if it's a big deal with somebody, it's a big deal. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.240 Like there's no there needs to be no, there's no 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.040 qualifier for a big deal. And it's and the reason 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.760 that's so funny to me now is because looking at 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.480 that article and then fast forwarding to when uh black 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:44.040 Panther came out and so many just so many white 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.720 YouTube videos had to be like this is why Black 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.800 Panther is not even important. It's not that important. It's 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.760 not this is it's like you don't get to decide that, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:57.200 like like it's like just simply at all, Like I 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:02.560 can never just you know, decide what's important for you, Danny, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.240 anyone in here, because what's important you is important to you. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:09.400 That's a personal, uh, you know, relationship that you have 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.080 with yourself. But it's so I think in nerd them. 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.880 You see that a lot of like especially like if 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.120 you look at the new trilogy and stuff, and people go, oh, 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.920 that's you like that, how do you how do you care? 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.640 And it's like who cares? Like there are people who 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.760 are like I liked the prequels, you know, like and 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.360 and then they'll be like, because I grew up on 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.200 it and and so that's what I had. And you 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.840 don't get to say that it's not good or that, 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.920 because if you go back and objectively look at the 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.960 original trilogy, it's not it's not slapping as hard as 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.080 someone who came into Star Wars Lady who didn't grow 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.960 up on it. I slept fell asleep during a New Hope, 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.320 Like it's it's not it's it's all these connections and 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:52.400 I think you nerve them. Um, maybe I'm just laughing 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.520 because I think, like, you're gonna get cast into Star 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.840 Wars thing and someone's going to clip this and they 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.920 can be like and and say that you fell asleep. 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.800 I hope they do. And you know what, that just 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.760 just the same way they kept playing Hector's own voice 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.200 when he got cast in d C Daily like and 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.120 and And that's what's so funny. I was just thinking 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.000 about this when I was on a walk the other day. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.960 Is the idea of appreciation is so much different, right, 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.120 Like I feel like before and I think I'm gonna 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.000 yank this. Super producer Joel brought this up of the 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:26.720 I think I'm gonna mess it up, but I'm gonna 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.160 say it anyway. I think it was the French Revolution 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.440 or the new wave film revolution, where you had critics 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:37.080 criticizing the films and and they and that thus caused 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.120 the filmmakers to try and step it up so that 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.840 it was like a friendly kind of marrying between criticism 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.120 and creation. And I think now the idea of nerd 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.240 um is to blindly like it and not call out 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.760 anything about it, like you know, like, because I'm a 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.720 DBZ fan, I can't call out that Mr Popo is racist. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.760 It's like, no, I can appreciate the parts of DBZ 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.720 that like and call out that this is a caricature 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:06.359 of sambo uh that was used in this and you 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.440 know it's it's interesting and I think that's the soul. Yeah. Oh, 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.000 I wanted to go back to what you said if 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.760 you about like things being important to people, even if 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.040 you took away like all those YouTube videos that were 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.240 like this is why black Panther actually doesn't really matter, 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.600 blah blah blah, Like even if you took away representation, 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.919 which is important to people, it's really important that we 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.840 show studios that they can bank on these Like that's 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.280 the biggest thing, Like it was aside from yes, all 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.199 of that, but like, if we're still talking about the 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.440 white gate keepers in our industry, they need to see 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:42.320 Unfortunately we still in order to push for movies that 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.520 are representative of us, we need to show them that 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.560 we can make money. Um, because they're still controlling so 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.960 much of these decisions and so much of what gets 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.480 funded and what doesn't get funded. I mean it sucks, 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.879 but that's like also why it was important that it 0:17:55.920 --> 0:18:00.400 did well. Yeah. I think also it's just you know, 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.760 as people who are in the industry, there's so much 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.080 information that we're privy to before the public and seeing 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.600 the public's reaction. It's just so funny to know how 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.240 confident people are when they know nothing, Like it's so 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.679 interesting to see someone describe and try and fully explain 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.720 something that you know how it's gonna work. You know, 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.760 you you you know what what's being worked on, you 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.840 know the steps, and people just doing full through Twitter 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.480 threads that you're reading and you're like, oh, you're just wrong, 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.879 and what's gonna happen is you're gonna be wrong and 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.000 you're just gonna move on with your life and not 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.040 even taken into the fact all these claims that you've made, 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.960 all this you know, pressure you've put on someone based 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.800 on just your assumption. And I think that's what starting 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.359 to drive at me is like you people are just 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.959 so openly, loudly wrong and so confident in speaking on 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.080 things they know nothing about it. And I think that 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:59.639 could be said about many things that male persons. Sorry 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:04.040 all so agreeing, Yeah, I just want to say too, 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.080 I just want to say back to Iffy. For a second, Iffy, 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.520 that was a beautiful compliment you gave me where you 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.439 said that I had changed your idea of what a 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.520 nerd is, because I totally agree with you a hundred percent. 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.879 I think differently about things today than I did when 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:18.240 I was in my twenties than I did when I 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.560 was in my teens. You know, it's okay to be 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.640 able to change your mind about things j K. Rolling. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.119 It's okay to be able to to to to update 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.000 and to realize, you know, what's important. And I was 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.040 more protective and defensive and traditional with the stuff that 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.600 I loved, And as I got older, I looked at 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.120 the context. I looked at the historical context, and I went, 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:38.960 why are the things that I like the way that 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:43.480 they are? Why are the things that I love? Um, 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.200 it's like, so why do I love them so much? 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.840 Are they a strong enough idea and strong enough important? Like? 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.640 Are they important enough to me that I can hear 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.440 somebody lob and honest criticism at it and still be 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.840 able to take it. I love Spider Man, and there's 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.400 real genuine problems within the story of like he ends 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.040 up marrying a supermodel, Like that's not super healthy. That's 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.280 not a great message to give to young boys. And 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.639 that's just one small example. There's there's lots of examples 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.080 where nerdy stuff, you know, Like you mentioned you guys 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.159 are talking about all the big franchises have to do that. 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.280 They're really a focus of what's happening at a larger scale, 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.160 uh in the world at the time. And what's happening 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.359 right now is that people are becoming more aware of 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.640 others experiences. They're becoming more aware of what is important 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:32.760 to other people, and they're asking and demanding for their entertainment, 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.119 at the very minimum, to be equal and fair and 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.399 representative of different people. I think people are also asking 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.080 for more important changes to happen, and and hopefully that's 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.120 going to happen too. But at the very minimum, we're 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.040 talking about entertainment. When people go, oh, it's just entertainment, 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.560 just let it be entertaining. Don't involve politics into it, 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:53.280 don't bring in social justice into it. I I have 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.639 said this over and over and over again. There is 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.880 no such thing as art without politics. That is part 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.119 of it. It's an expression of what's happening in the world. 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.040 And if you're a fan of this stuff, and if 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:06.080 you love this stuff, I think that sometimes it can 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.840 be tough to look inward and to look at the 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.520 stuff that you love and honestly criticize it. But I 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.199 also think it can be tough to in that space 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:18.280 of loving an entertainment thing to look around and point 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.359 at your peers and point at your colleagues and go, 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.240 you know what, what you're doing is unhealthy. What you're 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.320 doing is gate keeping. What you're doing is whether or 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.960 not you know it, it's upholding white supremacy. It's upholding 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.560 the patriarchy like it's sexist, it's racist, it's all this 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.719 stuff that doesn't have to be that way. And you 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.400 may think, no, I'm just complaining about how I don't 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:36.639 like the new Star Wars movies. Well, why well, I 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:38.480 don't like so and so and so, Well why not? 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.359 Are you consistent in that feeling with other with like 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:45.720 the rest of the historical context of that particular franchise, 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:47.800 and are you aware about the rest of the historical 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.360 context and you know what it does and how it appears. 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.040 And it's such a bummer to say this, but we've 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:54.719 come a long way. We have a long way to go, 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:59.199 and in terms of the nerd sphere like it's it 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.240 may it may see like it's small potatoes, but really, truly, really, 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.680 I think there needs to be much more work done 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:08.720 at the level of like calling out toxicity on the Internet, 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:11.800 especially because those big studios, like Danny was mentioning, they 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.280 are paying attention to the vocal minority. They're paying attention 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.680 to the people that are very loudly saying we didn't 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:19.520 like Star Wars at the Last Jedi because this, this, 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:23.480 and this, and then the Disney response to that and 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.560 then goes and makes their third movie and apparently, allegedly 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.680 according to the rumors, they really did look at how 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:31.879 people responded and then they sort of course corrected. And 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:34.480 it's like to some people they course corrected in the 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.240 right way because they made a movie that they enjoyed, 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.280 and to others, they course corrected in the wrong way 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:40.240 because it went back on some of those ideas that 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.840 a lot of people connected to that were like feminist 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.320 ideas or you know whatever. So but it's all varied 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.240 and there's a bunch of different nuance and everything that 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.840 I'm saying. But I really do think that, like in 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.520 the same way, it's a bummer to have to ask people, Hey, 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.080 call out your relatives on the internet, especially on Facebook 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.199 and stuff when they're spreading like misinformation about political issues, 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.760 because that can too harm. Like you have to call 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.800 out your relatives. Uh, and it's a bummer, But same 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:06.560 sort of thing like call out your friends, call out 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.880 your peers. And when you see somebody online, especially like 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:13.080 somebody like Danny and Iffy who they're they're doing the work. 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.640 They put themselves out there, they talk about issues they're 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.400 important to them, and then they always get knuckleheads coming 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.879 in and being assis about it. If you see an 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:22.480 ass go in there and be like, you know what, look, 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.119 this is why you're mistaken. Boom. And it just helps 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:29.680 because it's another voice that is being added to the 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.840 voices that are saying we care about this stuff and 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.600 we want to share it with people, and we don't 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:36.920 want to be exclusive. We want to be inclusive and 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.080 just be able to enjoy all the stuff we enjoy. Well, 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:42.159 I was gonna ask what message you have for the 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.800 nerd community. That's the message. Baby did it? You did it? 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.280 Um Hector. Thank you so much for coming on our 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.479 final episode and all of these episodes that you've been on. 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:54.800 Thank you so much, Thank you Danny for changing my 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.240 mind about what a nerd is. And thank you Iffy 0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.120 for changing my mind about what a nerd is because 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.159 before if you, I didn't know nerds could bench, but 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:05.199 now I know they can bench. Seriously, they can. They 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.960 can take on animals that are much larger than them 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:11.560 strength to strength and be able to defeat him. Thank 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.560 you Iffie, you know. But yeah, no, that's it, thank you, 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.960 because there's a lot of buff nerds out there getting 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:22.439 it up. Absolutely, Um, Hector, where can everyone catch you? 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.840 What are your socials? Find me on the internet at 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:29.199 Hector is funny on Twitter and Instagram. And uh, that's it, 0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:30.800 And thank you so much again guys for having me. 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.439 You guys are awesome. Yeah, we're going to take a 0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:36.000 really short break and then we'll be back with more 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:46.240 guests right after this and we are back. Hector is 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:50.320 such a joy, always such a joy. Um. But we wanted, 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.800 of course, on our final episode to talk to super 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:58.000 producer Joel Monique, who joined us this year. Hey lady, Hey, 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:02.280 what's up guys? What I'm sad this is the last one. 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:06.879 It's been emotional for me as a person, but I 0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:11.199 defendn't see you guys once a week. We still have 0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:18.320 our long standing Netflix parties. That was getting it in. Yeah, no, 0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.760 that's a what what a what a wild ride it's been. 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:25.120 But yeah, you've been on quite a few eppsh yourself, 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:30.200 you know. And so do you have a favorite episode? Oh? Man, 0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.320 uh the Soak episode, which you know happened so recently 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.480 but was such a blast. It was so fun to 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:40.760 talk about my girl. I'm obsessed with her um And 0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:44.199 then the chance to defend aunt Man as potentially the 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.080 greatest superhero comic book movie of the m c U 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.919 was amazing because I didn't think anyone would want to 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.040 hear that argument. So I appreciate you guys letting me 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:58.560 hear that out here on I guess I would because 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.080 you're so heavily and try inn in the nerd community 0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.399 as well. Like, what are some things that you would love, 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.720 Like what are the messages you would give people one 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.960 who maybe like don't necessarily feel they have a place 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.520 or have been gate keeped. And then like things that 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.199 other people can do to kind of make this a 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:18.560 more welcoming space. What you can do to make this 0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:22.800 a more welcoming space? Is when someone tells you why 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.240 they like something, listen to it. Similar to Hector's take, um, 0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:30.880 which was, you know, maybe more about not being sort 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.640 of like a direct asshole. My my take is more 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.320 like you might learn something if you hear why people 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.960 are enjoying the new thing, right, Like I feel like 0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.600 I have this debate with the Star Wars people a lot, 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.800 especially like first gen Star Wars people, and then I 0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.600 had to learn it too. Here's the craziest thing. You 0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:49.880 can be the most woke nerd person, or at least 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.800 think you are, and once you get older and this 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.639 new generation comes in and you're like, listen y'all. Because 0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:58.520 I was ten when the prequels came out, and I'm like, 0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.280 these are not great. They're not the Star Wars I'm 0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:04.520 used to. They're a little slow. I hated Part three. 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.359 And then some kids came out they're like, no, it's wonderful. 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.119 How dare you doubt our queen? Look at her dresses? 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:12.320 And I was like, I do have to give the 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.320 dresses props. They're like, look at all that she does 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.200 as a politician, in the fact that we have this 0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.280 like strong female politician in the front. Look at how 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:25.199 we start um equating droid like usage, especially as like 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.320 slave labor, and start you to open up those conversations 0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:31.280 in our galaxy far far away like this like network 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.159 of things expanded, not just in a technological aspect, but 0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:36.080 from a fan basi. And so for a lot of people, 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:38.760 I love the prequels, and I hadn't learned that the 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.880 hard way because I was certainly out there trashing them 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:42.440 and anybody who liked them, Like you don't know Star 0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:46.399 Wars in So definitely take a listen to somebody like 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.200 something you don't, and you just take the opportunity to 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.800 hear what it is they're enjoying and why they like it. 0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.240 You'll probably learn something not just about yourself, but about 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.560 what your fandom has lacked. And I think that's a 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.560 great way to start, like allowing people in the other thing, 0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:01.680 I would say, it's like, go to conventions when it's safe. 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.800 Not now to convention now it's not a good scene, 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.800 but when they're when it's safe. Um. I used to 0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.520 think I couldn't go to conventions because they're super expensive, 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:12.359 and I was like, how will I ever managed to 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.320 do this? And and hotel and people, But if you 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.439 can get close and even like your local conventions are 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:22.040 going to have amazing artists, and I think as fun 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.359 as like a whole h can be. It's fun to 0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.160 be quote in the room where it happened. But it's 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.919 also really cool to like watch an artist grow by 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.040 like going up to their table and be like, oh, 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.760 my goodness, look at all the like cool work you've done. 0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.000 That's really sweet. And then you come back next year 0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:38.720 and they're like, here's my first comic I self printed, 0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:40.680 and you're like, wow, that's so cool, Like I'm really 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:42.400 proud of your progress. And then two years later they 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.200 have a deal with a major thing, and like that's 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:46.960 how you become involved in the community. Like that, to 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.440 me is a communal aspect. The stars are awesome and 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.080 great and it's so wonderful to see them do their thing, 0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.400 but it's the people that are just getting started out 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.320 who are so like on fire passionate about their work 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.640 I think makes the community the strongest. Oh my gosh, 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:09.360 I don't even know how to add to that. Yeah, 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.880 I was gonna say, I guess what what things that 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:17.600 are coming out or like things in our fandom franchises, movies, whatever, comics, 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.640 what are you excited to see in this upcoming year 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:22.880 or hopefully things that are going to eventually come out. 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:29.040 M yes, there's a lot of good stuff keeping my 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:34.000 Star Wars trend. Debra Chow she is phenomenal if you 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:38.480 haven't seen Flowers in the Attic perfect, but she's also 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.720 doing all of the Star Wars stuff and she's so, so, 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:44.440 so talented. She directed two of the Mandalorian episodes, but 0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.400 now she's taking on Like, I believe the Han Solo 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.360 series is going to be about what was happening when 0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.280 Han Solo was hiding out on tattooed in and like 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:55.080 how was he protecting Luke from Afar and undercover Dad? 0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.160 Sounds like the best story ever and I'm very much 0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.880 looking forward to it. Obviously, the Wonder Woman movie can't 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.000 get here fast enough. I have so many questions. A 0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.880 lot of my faves are in that. Um so I'm 0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:11.000 looking forward to seeing that. And then you know, I 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.520 don't ever The Last Airbender. It is really having a 0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:18.320 renaissance right now with addition to Netflix, and if Nickelodeon 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:22.000 wanted to pick that up and do anything with another avatar, 0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.640 I love Kyoshi. I wouldn't mind seeing what happens after Cora. 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.160 We could go back and do origins of the first 0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.280 one post when he gets his powers, Like, what are 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.080 the first missions? He's going on? So many cool aspects 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:35.880 of that series. Even if you just wanted to give 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.680 me adult ag I'm not complaining about it. Whatever you 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.680 want to do with Avatar the Last Airbender, I'd be 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:44.640 here for it. Let's do it. Yes, same. I don't know. 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.280 Maybe maybe we should give Shamalan one more try. Maybe 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.240 maybe give him one more crack at it, stop it stop, 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:56.600 zero more try three rocks for Earthbending no fail. Wait, 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.520 have you guys seen the videos where they do the 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.360 side by side of what it's like to like what 0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.880 the fight was in the television series versus what the 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.880 fight was in the movie. No, no, I'm going to 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:11.800 try to find that. It's the saddest thing in history. 0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.840 Fight with the Master Airbender guitar Fight with the Master 0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:20.520 Airbender brilliant, gorgeous, wonderful in the animated form. You can 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.120 drop us a link right now because we have to 0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:25.080 take another quick break and then we'll be back with 0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:35.400 one final guest. Right after these messages, and we are 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:40.000 back final episode of Netificent and now we are joined 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:44.680 by one of my dear friends, Mr Christopher Smith Bryant. Hey, 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:50.080 Hi guys, how are you doing good? Good? Are you 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:55.120 emotional having the last show today? I mean, I think 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.640 we've been pretty pretty chill. I think it's going to 0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:02.160 be yeah, you know like that. I always call it 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.520 the Will Smith moment. That's that's that's how I deal 0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.280 with emotion. That's that's how the TV taught me. How 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.040 to deal with emotions as a black man is you 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:10.720 have to let it happen. Then you come back to 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.520 the empty house like I'm gonna log into an empty 0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:22.840 zoom on next Tuesday, where all my friends. Chris, you 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.240 you were on for a couple of our episodes one 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.840 of our. One of my favorites is our Queer Characters 0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.640 in Gaming, which we just ran for Pride a month ago. 0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.360 You were also on our SIMS episode I remember with 0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.880 Claire Max. It was funny because both episodes we talked 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:43.080 about how nerd culture is very important for any marginalized group, 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:49.600 especially marginalized groups that are using nerd culture for escapism. 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.840 It's funny. I was just having an interview about Comic 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.600 Con this year because it was all online and I 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.880 was like, I felt like it was so amazing because 0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:00.720 it was finally super accessible for the groups that need 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.160 it the most, which are marginalized communities that don't usually 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.160 have access to comic Con and now they feel like, yeah, 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.560 like they could because it is such a privileged thing 0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:14.000 to go to Comic Con. But really the people who 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.880 need it the most are people marginalized groups in the 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.000 middle of you know, the country who need that community. 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.040 So for them, I think this year was actually really 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:27.520 a brilliant year for that. Yeah, now that that's super 0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.600 like That's what I was thinking about too, is just 0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:36.120 especially just like even people who maybe have the financial means, 0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.600 but just the like I don't know, get all the 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.800 walking around, getting around this pack city, or if you 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.160 if you're not comfortable around large groups of people, you 0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.600 can finally like get all the info and all that 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.560 and still be at home and not dealing with, you know, 0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:54.920 people pushing you out the way so they can get 0:33:54.920 --> 0:34:00.160 a toy from Hasbro. The Funko pop like collector Bros. 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:04.440 Are slightly that's just as a scary level that I 0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.720 didn't know existed, Like especially when you go to their 0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:09.960 house and they're just like all staring at you all 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.960 of the little you know eyes, the funk pop eyes. 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.239 It is kind of elitist and the fact that they'll 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.160 nab them, right, you have to have the accessibility to 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.120 be able, and again we're talking about something that's like 0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.920 less than thirty dollars. So having the accessibility to be 0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.920 to get to be in San Diego, get to like 0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.319 stay there. Again, I've talked about this. The hotels that 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.880 weekend are insane. And I had like I got to 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.720 stay at the Marriott for one night because like another 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:40.560 company was paying for it. And I was like, oh, 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.840 you know, I just instead of changing rooms because I 0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.160 normally have to change rooms a bunch, I'm like, I'll 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.359 just I'll just stay another night. And I called down 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:48.840 at the front desk. I'm like how much is it? 0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.560 And they're like, oh, it's eight hundred dollars. I'm like, okay, no, 0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.480 I'm good. I'll sleep on someone's caught. But like just 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.400 being able to be there, like you said, or the 0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:01.200 badges are like three hundred four hundred dollars in um. 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:05.000 So they nab these toys and then they sell them 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.799 for like three four hundred bucks, and it's like it's 0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:09.879 just like you were saying, it's keeping the people who 0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:13.120 actually need this community, who could who could benefit and 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.360 enjoy some of this, It just keeps them out. So 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:21.240 I'm just hoping that they continue to live stream panels 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.359 even if they have them in person. I would love 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.800 they live streamed them more of them, and I would 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.759 love if the exclusives are just mass you know, available 0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:33.960 to the masses like they were this year, you know, 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:38.960 online and everything, because I want people, especially people like you're, 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.560 people who have disabilities, people who have UH. So for 0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.360 the viewers who don't know, I'm on the autism spectrum, 0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.480 and crowds for me are very difficult, so I can't 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.439 imagine especially you know, UH people who might I hate 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.880 using this term, but lower functioning people in the spectrum 0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.959 going who can't go out to comic Con. I want 0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:03.080 them to have the ability to, you know, to feel 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.520 like they are a part of it, because community, especially 0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.359 in in the geek world, is one of the most 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.919 important things that we can have. Is is community, so 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.839 that people who might feel lonely or who use this 0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:20.120 as some sort of advice, UH can can use this 0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.400 as a way to bring people together rather than be 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:26.840 more and more further divided, I would say that's what um, 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.520 being that this is your last show, that's what I appreciate. Really, 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.920 what you guys created is you created a voice in 0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.839 the nerd community that is very needed. That is like, 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:42.400 it isn't just a white, cis male space. Um, many 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:46.600 people need need this community, and I think that you actually, 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.120 you guys created more than just a podcast that you know, 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.880 people could bring facts. You gave a voice to I 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:56.799 think people who didn't hear themselves heard in any other 0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:01.359 you know, sort of nerd media. Yeah, thank you very 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:06.680 much for that, Chris, for you, Um, can you tell 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.040 us a little bit about the comic companel that you 0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:11.799 did because people can catch that right now, they can 0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.399 watch it. Oh yeah, I think that's a cool thing 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:18.640 about Both me and you had panels about feminism, right 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:22.160 like yours was about. Can you tell you first? What 0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.279 was your sign? I think mine the title I'd have 0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:29.240 to look up, but it was essentially like representation of women. 0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.600 We actually were featured in Huffington's posts, which I'll tweet 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.400 out from the Nerdificent thing. But we had an entire 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.880 article dedicated to our panel that talked about tropes like 0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:40.719 a lot of the things that we tackled with, like 0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.799 how the misrepresentation of women in media still today in 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.239 and how we can fix that, because I think it's 0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.719 a lot to point out like they do this, but 0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:51.719 we also pointed out like here's a way that you 0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:55.680 can fix that. So, um, I'll drop a link. It 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.759 was really panel. It was really awesome. I saw some 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.400 of the clips of it, and you are so well spoken, 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.680 and it was such a great panel. Mine was a 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.360 similar Mine was the Power of Female Friendship and it 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.640 featured the cast of Sailor Moon and also our good 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.720 friends Sam Maggs, who is the writer of Captain Marvel, 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.640 and it was It was cool because it was a 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.120 panel about Sailor Moon with also being more than Sailor Moon. 0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:25.400 It's about like how important it is to discuss female 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:30.040 friendships in nerd media and how there are very few, 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.000 like even a lot of the superhero books it's a 0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.960 female that's working alone, and how important it is to 0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:40.640 have talk about relationships in writing and in nerd media. Yeah, 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.600 you're you're totally right. I wanted to talk about just 0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.920 even the the exclusive real big, real quick before jumping 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.520 uh back into this, but they're back in the day, 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.319 I knew people who got you were talking about, you know, 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.359 getting the free hotel. But I knew people who got 0:38:56.400 --> 0:39:00.640 free tickets to Comic Con from sellers. They'll get their 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.520 ticket and all they needed from them is to sit 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.120 in the Hasbro line to help them buy it up. 0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:08.799 So they're out here like abusing the system to do 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.759 like like, there are systems in place meant to kind 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.920 of make exclusive more accessible, and people are going out 0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:18.640 of their way to go around it and sell them 0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.200 for way too much money. And I think it really 0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:26.640 really kind of sucks that people it was like, we'll 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.319 do that, but I think, yeah, I think that's that. 0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.319 That was the one thing that it's funny because you 0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:36.080 know who who shot you. You know the other podcasts 0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.120 that do their whole tagline is a movie podcast that 0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:42.200 isn't three white dudes talking. And it was funny because 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.439 that's essentially what we wanted to do with Nerdificent words, 0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.239 like we we noticed this space and even though now 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.080 like even though there are there are a lot of 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.480 things that were around before us and came, but I 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:58.720 think now people are actively kind of searching for different 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.879 voices out there. But like it felt like when we 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:05.000 were coming together to make ner deficent, it was like 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.680 you there, there weren't anyone kind of propping up these 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:12.279 like diverse voices. It was the same, you know, the 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.680 same white voices you'd hear. And that's why it's even funny, 0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.920 uh seeing you know, G four and everyone being like, 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:23.239 I hope they have all you know, the same hosts back. 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.040 And I was like, do you though, do you want 0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.960 the same? Like we've come so far from when G 0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.640 four went down, you want the same? It was all 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.920 that was the unfortunately thing. I loved G four growing up, 0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:37.080 but all the hosts were like white people and and 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:38.919 and you have people being like, oh well, it better 0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:40.359 be the same host and I was like, it better 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:43.439 not be the same host. It will And I think 0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:46.440 it's because you know, people don't realize how weird that 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.719 would look, you know, people and it and it And 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:51.080 that's why I kind of talked about in the hector 0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:54.359 portion this attachments and nostalgia for nerds, just like, oh, 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.920 you want the same thing, and I think that's the 0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:01.480 same that that'll find That'll be that problem with with 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:03.960 Star Wars and every time we see there are people 0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.480 who put find their nerd thing, and they put in 0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.640 a time capsule and I was talking with a friend 0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.800 and she was talking about a show she was watching 0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:16.000 with her partner right and the show was like a 0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.719 mid show, like not even like this great show, but 0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:21.920 the show had so much emotion attached to where she 0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:24.640 was at the time that she saw it. So they 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.920 finally got to the final episode and like she was 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.319 crying because of just knowing how far she come at 0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.560 that time in her life and what she was going through, 0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:36.520 and she was laughing how she was like she didn't 0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:38.840 know how to explain to her partner that no, the 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.360 show didn't make her cry. She's you know, it was 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.759 more just that, but she almost it was almost too 0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:45.440 much to explain. I was like, oh, just say the 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.160 show made you cry then, like that'll be easier. But 0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.000 I think that's what people do to nerd them is 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.160 especially like when you see it and even I do this, 0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.640 but I think it's it's good to kind of like, uh, 0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:01.600 notice it and don't become to those people who make 0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:05.600 your identity these nerd things so that when something is 0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:08.399 changed about it, it feels like they're trying to change you. 0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:10.759 And that's what you're seeing when you see people have 0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:16.120 these violent, aggressive reactions to characters changing, people changing, it's 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.080 because they put so much of themselves within this property 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.920 that they don't own or have control over that when 0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.600 it changes, it feels like someone's trying to change them 0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:27.640 and they have to fight for it. And really it's 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:31.640 like appreciating what you got from it and not not 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:35.279 attaching yourself to it. You know, like you can be 0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:39.319 attached to it, but it you shouldn't make yourself a 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.840 part of something you And I think this goes beyond 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.480 nerd things. I think in general, never make yourself a 0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:48.319 part of something you truly can't control, because you will 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:51.319 be put in that position eventually. Well. And it's like 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.760 you always, even if it's real life or nerd culture, 0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.960 you will always see you'll always be disappointed by your 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.839 heroes in some way. And I think the problem is 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:02.960 is that people like I remember when the last Star 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.120 Wars movie, uh god, what was it? The one that 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:08.040 piste everyone off? The Last Jedi came out and a 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:12.120 lot of these nerd bros had this violent reaction seeing 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:17.200 Luke Skywalker become and end up such a flawed human being, 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.520 where in their mind that might have been Mark Hamill 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.279 and that in that time might have been like a 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.399 father figure, this person that lifted them up. So it's like, 0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:27.719 I think you're right. The Last of Us two is 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:30.479 a great example because that's something that's dividing the nerd 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.919 culture in a way. I think people put so much 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.520 of their self on the first game, and when the 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:40.279 second one broke everything down, they couldn't appreciate what was 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:45.000 new because they wanted the same feelings that they had 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.719 with the first game. Again. I also think that there's 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:49.400 a huge thing in what you were saying, which is 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:56.400 like the nerd community collecting versus community, Like instead of 0:43:56.440 --> 0:44:01.560 focusing on collecting every Funko pop or every this comic 0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.920 con should be about the community and it should be 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.640 about getting together. And I think that that's one of 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:09.799 the things that's hard that's hard to watch, that was 0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:11.640 cool to watch this year is that it kind of 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:15.080 became again about the community, even though we are all 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.520 so you know, distanced and everything, and made people focus 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.520 on like, wait, the important thing isn't getting these funco pops? 0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.040 Are this and that I want to be around my 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:27.560 friends my Honestly, I love cons because it's the one 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:33.160 time where nobody would say we can't cuss on here, 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:35.279 but nobody would call me the sea word or be 0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.279 word to my face, like none of they some of 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.160 those people at Comic Con, they might have written it 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:43.439 to me, but they don't have the guts to say 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.479 it to my face. And so it's just a time 0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.319 where I can exist in this space and just take 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:50.560 in everything and have people come up to me and 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.400 celebrate work that I've done, or just like or just 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.279 me getting to be a nerd in exist out there. 0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.560 But it's just like it was my favorite part in 0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.239 all of like the voice actors and my friends that go. 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:06.080 It's like none of us get treated like a like 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:09.279 a pos when we're there, but it's like, you know, 0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.880 online we take so much of that hate, and like 0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:15.319 you said, it's the vocal minority because then when we're 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.680 amongst everyone at Comic Con, it's just this bustling feeling 0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:22.600 of happiness and energy and joy, and it's that's how 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.399 it should be. It's like all this passion coming out. 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:27.719 Oh yeah, that's why I think that's why the it 0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.480 is very accurate to call Comic Con nerd Marty Gras 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:35.240 you know, and because you really do. And it really 0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:39.840 like even as you know, uh, someone as dorky and 0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.080 extroverted as me, you get to see people kind of 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:45.000 come out of their shell dancing, having a good time 0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:47.960 because they feel comfortable and safe. Because I think one 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:50.520 of the things that keep people from being, you know, 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.560 as open and I think this goes once again another 0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:55.279 one of those things that go outside of nerd um 0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.400 is just like how much people will relate to you, 0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.080 how much you trust, you know, you don't want to, 0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.880 you know, let loose in front of somebody you fear 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.680 might make fun of you or make you feel less 0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.040 than for doing it. So when you have all these 0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.200 like minded people, you're like, oh, this person over here 0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.920 is dressed as link. They're definitely not going to judge 0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.560 me for like busting down on this coac arena jam, 0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:18.960 you know. And and that's what I love is just 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.720 seeing those faces and you're seeing people light up and 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.560 and and and also that's why, you know, as much, uh, 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.960 I was almost gonna let's say as much, uh s, 0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:33.640 I'll say I I dump on San Diego as a city, 0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:35.920 as a whole, as a county, as a part of 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:39.480 the world. I do love that you know, San Diego 0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:44.239 has given in and allowed you know, the nerdom to 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:47.520 just take over downtown, which is why anytime people like, 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:49.120 oh it moves to l A. I was like, no, 0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.560 we can't like as much as you know, Angelina I am, 0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.400 I love. There's just too much going on. Like everyone's 0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.640 always like, oh, l a sports fan, don't care. I 0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:59.839 was like, no, we just always have something going on. 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.360 I'm sorry. When there's a Lakers game, there's probably a 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.840 Taylor Swift concert going on next door. There's also a 0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.560 baseball game, there's you know, there's so much going on 0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:13.400 that like you almost have this like, yeah, you're not hyped. 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.920 I'm sure in Cincinnati when the Bengals play, that's a 0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:22.000 whole event because yeah, you know, and it's like, um no, 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:23.879 I was gonna say, it's kind of like E three 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.520 for me is right, is usually right after Pride. Oh 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:30.799 my god, I'm like walking into the three hungover. I 0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:34.920 bags just like kill me because it's true. In l A, 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.040 it's like we don't have that hype because it's like 0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.360 there's always But with Comic Con in San Diego, I 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:42.080 mean it was cool. I had a friend that face 0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.560 timed me and there are people still in the middle 0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:48.239 of the streets social distancing, trying to kind of experience 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.719 I couldn't be there, Yeah, I can only imagine. Yeah, 0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.480 San Diego probably felt the change of all this the 0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:59.480 most because especially all those businesses, Like as much as 0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.960 you know there's those there's always like one or two 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.560 weird bars that are trying to like make fun of 0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.600 the comic Con thing. But as much as even they 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:10.439 will do it, they probably make so much money from 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:14.440 the city just being flooded. Every bar like it really, 0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:18.120 like I think we're they're going to feel unfortunately a 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:21.799 huge financial hit because I'm sure all these businesses make 0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:27.400 bookoo bucks because every bar is packed, every restaurant, like 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:28.839 no matter where you want to go, if you want, 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:31.480 if you're thinking of okay, since I wasn't able to 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.719 go because of the RONA, I'm definitely going to Comic 0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:37.200 Con next year. Let me let you know that no 0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.360 matter how far you push out, you just go to 0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.400 go get a good airbnb, go to the rouse and 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:45.480 cook up a dinner and then save one night where 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:47.840 you're really willing to wait for an hour to have 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:53.040 a good dinner because everything is so packed. But it's 0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:56.080 kind of Why also I like that this comic con 0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:59.640 was online is that I'm hoping that in smaller communities 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:02.399 and people who can't get to San Diego, they can 0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.360 have a local bar night where they all watched Panels together, 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:09.920 or they can have like a many comic con over there. Yeah, 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:12.480 I think that would be beautiful. Well, Chris, I was 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.040 going to say, as we're wrapping up here, do you 0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:19.920 have any words of encouragement for nerds, maybe any of 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:22.279 them that might be on the spectrum or queer, like 0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.799 anything that you've had to deal with trying to make 0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:27.479 space for yourself in this community. Do you have any 0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:30.200 words of encouragement for people who aren't quite there yet. 0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:33.279 I think that now is one of the most difficult 0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:37.759 times because because of the distancing and everything that people are, 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:42.319 the social distancing, and we've already had an issue of 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:44.919 it's like what you were saying, Danny, how you would 0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:47.960 go to comic con and finally people were not calling 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.160 you negative words to your face, but they do that online. 0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:54.440 And unfortunately, the one negative side to all of the 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.840 distancing is people are more vocal and more fighting online 0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:02.120 now more so than ever. So I have the weirdest 0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:06.520 thing that is just try to not argue on the 0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:11.160 internet would be my biggest thing. Try to find zoom 0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:15.600 calls if you're doing twitch some way though of still 0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:19.680 meeting people and connecting with people where you can actually 0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.560 talk to them versus then just tweeting them. Because the 0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:26.400 most important thing for us to do as nerds is 0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:29.839 to have some sort of community together. And that's one 0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:31.640 of the things where I'm so sad about this show 0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:36.160 is because I know that it was um you know, 0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:38.480 it's it wasn't just a podcast in a weird way, 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:42.520 it was kind of showing the actual community of nerds 0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:45.760 that are not always represented in you know, every nerd media. 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:49.040 Was showing you had people who are trans every single 0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:51.560 color like you had so many, such a diverse group 0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.680 of people, and I think in some ways it wasn't 0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:55.880 just a show. It was kind of a show of 0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:59.080 a community and it brought people together. Every show that 0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:02.000 you guys do, I of people that reach out, so 0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:04.800 let's say like thank you. I felt like my voice 0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.320 was heard. And I think that what we can continue 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:13.120 on with the spirit of Nerdificent is just continuing positive 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:16.759 communication but also communicating like how you guys do in 0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:21.160 this podcast people hopefully not just talking over Twitter, but 0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:22.360 being like, Hey, do you want to go on a 0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:24.560 zoom call and talk about this game or talk about 0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.520 why we have a difference of opinion of the last 0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:31.120 Jedi or like whatever, like actually have those conversations where 0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.120 you can see and talk to the person instead of 0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:37.560 just relying on on Twitter, because I think that that 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:39.400 will be the way to make sure that we have 0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:43.279 a community and have connection with each other, um in 0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:47.680 a time where connection is very scarce and and is 0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:51.360 you know, fleeting. So that would be my advice. Thank 0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.800 you for coming on for our final episode, Chris no worries. 0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:56.600 Thank you for having me. I love you guys, and 0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.040 I'm very proud of everything that you created with this. 0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:03.920 Well where can everyone catch you? Um? You can see 0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:08.200 uh my Instagram at Tinder Chris. That's t E N 0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:12.839 d R Chris uh c h R S and um 0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:14.960 you can also see me and Jenny ng have a 0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:18.359 show that is every other week called Comedy Crossing, which 0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:22.360 is a uh comedy show in animal Crossing. Also my 0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:26.360 charity which is a queer gaming nonprofit, the biggest one 0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:29.640 in the United States. It's called lags Los Angeles Gaming Society. 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:33.439 You can find us on Instagram as well. Yay, thank 0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:37.640 you guys so much. Look at my friend doing so much. Um. 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:41.920 I definitely wanted to shout out super producer Joel Monique, 0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:44.359 thank you again for all of your hard work. Um, 0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:46.600 can you just plug your socials again really quick? For 0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:51.480 the people's sure, it was an honor. It's a lovely 0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:53.160 show and so I'm sad to see it come to 0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:54.719 an end. I do you think it stands as a 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:59.160 lovely historical record. So if you guys want to follow me, 0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:01.320 I'll be pretty see a couple of new Nerds shows 0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:03.400 coming down the pipeline here at my heart that I 0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:05.640 cannot talk about yet, but I am very excited to 0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:08.239 share with you guys. I'm all of the internet at 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:11.000 Joe Monique, that's j O E L L E M 0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:16.440 O N I q U E. And of course our engineers, 0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:20.360 Zach McKeever, who has been with us since day one, 0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:24.319 holding it down. Yep, yep, you don't ever hear him, 0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:27.560 but he is why we why we sound good. Um. 0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:32.680 Of course struck Key's are editors also why we sound good. 0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:35.160 He cuts out a lot of things to make us 0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:38.640 sound smart. Yeah, and you know he's been on the 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.280 pod before and he has his own pod culture kings. 0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:46.719 You know, we had Dan Goodman, Jack O'Brien for you know, 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:51.040 believing in the vision. Uh. Ana Hosnier holding it down 0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:53.879 with us at the top. Uh and every guest who's 0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:58.160 ever came on, and everyone of you who has ever listened, truly, 0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:00.200 you're the only reason we've been able to do it 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:04.880 and made it great along the way. Uh. And you know, speak, 0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:09.560 don't take Nerdificent as a podcast. I'd say take it 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:14.279 as an ideology. Uplift voices that you you don't hear 0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:17.200 being said a month, you know, smash that rt if 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:20.600 someone if someone's you know, speaking truth to power, and 0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.960 I think you know, uh, you know, feel free to 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:27.400 nerd however you want to nerd, as long as it 0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:30.920 doesn't encroach on anyone else's vision. And don't let anyone 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:34.600 ever make you feel less than for doing that. Um. 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:39.719 And as we'll say, for the last time, stay well, 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.640 we actually got it up together on the last time.