1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: It's a late fifteen to ten touchdown Chargers. 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Guys? 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Welcome into an emergency podcast edition of Chargers Weekly Money 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: and I don't usually tape in the evenings. It's Wednesday 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: evening and Jim Harball has just been named head coach 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: of the Los Angeles Chargers. We are presented by Microsoft 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: Surface and Buddy, should I just say it off the top? 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: Who has it better than Chargers fans right now? 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Nobody. 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: We've been waiting, Chris, We've been waiting weeks, and true 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: to their word, it was an exhaustive search. And thankfully, 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: after that exhaustive search, I think speaking for all Charger fans, 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: for both of us, for a lot of people, they 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: ended up with the person we had hoped they would 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: end up with. You know, it takes two to dance, 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: as we've said, but I could not be more excited 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: about being here right now talking to you about Jim 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: Harbaugh being the next head coach of the Chargers and 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: what it means for this team moving forward. 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: It's an unbelievable day and I just I'm trying to 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: rack my brain, especially since twenty seventeen, since the team 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: has moved up to Los Angeles, Like, is there another moment, 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: especially in the off season, that ranks higher than this? 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean, you know, we talked 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: about the search, and you brought up an excellent point 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: last week saying, we can't think that this person's going 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: to be a good head coach. We have to know 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: and we know. We know that this guy just won 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: a national championship. We know that this guy's been to 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: a super Bowl. We know that he's elevated every program 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: he's ever been a part of. He's elevated the quarterback position. 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: And now he's going to be in Los Angeles for 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: a long time. And you know, it's been funny, like 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: the last three weeks we've been talking about this coaching search, 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: and you know, just the comments and hearing from Chargers fans. 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: They didn't want to hear about anybody else, And I 38 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: was almost a little nervous. I'm like, what happens if 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: they don't get hardball? Because he is option one, two, three, four, 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: and five for every Chargers fan. So I'm glad that 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: this is the end result. 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: And people watching and listening can take this however they want. 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 3: I don't care. I've taken a ton of incoming the 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: last couple of days. Anyway, I don't want to hear 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: it anymore. I do not want to hear it when 46 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: it comes to the Spanos family anymore. That's it. It's over, 47 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: and it should have been over for a while. But 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: whatever the perceptions were of them and how they spend 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: money and what was in the past is no longer. 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: It's it's not a viable opinion anymore. I'm sorry. The 51 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: family spent the billion dollars to move it out to 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: move to LA six hundred million on the stadium, four 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: hundred million and three in relocation fee. They spent a 54 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: quarter of a billion dollars on a facility that's going 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: to open in June that I think probably went a 56 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: long way into convincing Jim Harbaugh to come here. They 57 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: made Joey Bosa the highest paid edged or when James 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: the highest paid safety, Justin Herbert the highest paid player 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: in the NFL when they signed extensions, and then on 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: top of that, they just had the highest paid defense 61 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 3: in the NFL. Because Brandon Staley gave him a list 62 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: of things that he needed and extensions he needed sign 63 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: players he needed to keep in order to get this 64 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: thing right, and every step of the way they have 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: stepped up. And the narrative through this coaching search was 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: They're not gonna pay him. They're too cheap. They don't 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: pay coaches. There's no chance they get Harbaugh. It's gonna 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: be another first time guy. Enough, it's over, like there 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: is not there are no more boxes to check for 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: the Spanos family. They have proven every step of the 71 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: way that they are spending, that they are putting capital 72 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: into this franchise to try and deliver a Super Bowl 73 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: to Chargers fans for the first time. I'm in the 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: franchise's history. So I don't mean to get on a 75 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: soapbox and lecture, but I just I think back there 76 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: was a moment and I don't even want to mention 77 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: the person's name. 78 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: He's such a dope. 79 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: But I remember when Anthony Lynn still had a year 80 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: left on his deal and it was the blowout at 81 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: the hands of the Patriots, and I remember seeing, you know, 82 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: people send me things on the social media front. They 83 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: send me this video, this guy saying I've known the 84 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: Spanos family for thirty years. I've been doing this job 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: in this in this market for thirty years. No way 86 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: they eat a year of his contract. Anthony Lin'll be back, 87 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: He'll play out his contract because they don't play. They 88 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: don't pay coaches, not the coach. And never heard him 89 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: retract that statement, never hurt him, didn't at least nobody 90 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: sent me the apology of oh my mistake. They did 91 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: let him go year early, and they did pay him out. 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: They're paying Brandon Staley for the final year of his contract, 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: and they're probably gonna make Jim Harball one of the 94 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: highest aid coaches in the NFL. And I don't mean 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: to start it out with a lecture, but it's been 96 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: so much of this through this process from the people 97 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: that just take shots at this team and this franchise 98 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: and it doesn't hold. 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it just does not hold. 100 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: And this is the final nail in that coffin that 101 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: you cannot say they don't spend money, because this is it. 102 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: That this was the last piece to that puzzle of 103 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: what they will or will not, you know, reportedly spend 104 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: money on. 105 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: And it doesn't just stop with Harball. I mean, he 106 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 2: has a staff that he wants to take care of, 107 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: he wants to bring in best in class in everything. Right, 108 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: He's not going to do this halfway, and he's not 109 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: going to go to a place that's. 110 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: Going to do it halfway. 111 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: You don't leave the University of Michigan and become the 112 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: highest paid coach in college football and leave that for 113 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: an NFL job. That's just okay, right, you know, the facility, 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: obviously the money, but also putting together. They're a first 115 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: class staff. I just want to read Dean Spanos and 116 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: John Spanos's quotes in the in the press re at 117 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: least real quick, just for folks. 118 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: Who those are fantastic. 119 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: The Jim Harball was just epic. I can't wait, all right, 120 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: So so Dean goes. Jim Harball is football personified, and 121 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: I can think of no one better to lead the 122 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 2: Chargers forward. The son of a coach, brother of a coach, 123 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: and father of a coach who himself was coached by 124 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: the names of Sham Beckler and Dicka. For the past 125 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: two decades, Jim has led hundreds of mens to success 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: everywhere he's been as their coach. And today Jim Harball 127 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: returns to the Chargers. This time is our coach who 128 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: has it better than us? And then John, you don't 129 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: build a resume like Jim's by accident, and you don't 130 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: do it by yourself. You need a team. And nobody 131 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: has built a team more successfully and repeatedly in recent 132 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: history than Jim Harball. His former players swear by him 133 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: and his opponents swear at him. Jim is one of one, 134 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 2: and we couldn't be more excited to have him back 135 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: in the Chargers organization as our head coach. So I 136 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: think this just kind of plays to your point, money, 137 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: is this this ownership group? I think really from twenty 138 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: seventeen on, like, let's just not forget when Anthony Lynn 139 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: was hired in twenty seventeen, he had a really good 140 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: rookie year, start at one four and ended strong the 141 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: following year with Philip Rivers under center. Twelve and four 142 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: you win a playoff game, right, So you know, I 143 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: think Anthony Lynn earned that extra time with the Chargers. 144 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: They went to get Brandon Staley because Brandon Staley was 145 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: in charge of the number one defense in the NFL, 146 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: and guess what Philly wanted Brandon Staley and a lot 147 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: of other teams wanted to talk to him too, So 148 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: they were looking for that young and upcoming coach in 149 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: the in the likes of or Sean McVay right like that. 150 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: They were looking for that, thinking that that could be 151 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: the formula. And guess what, everybody was on board, all right, 152 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: So you can't tell me that not everybody was on 153 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: board when Brandon Staley's press conference happened, and everybody was 154 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: and they started pretty well. They win a different route 155 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: this way. Jim Harball is much different than all the 156 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: guys before him, the last three that we talked about, 157 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: the first time coordinators. He's proven, and I think just 158 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: pairing him with Justin Herbert money. Justin Herbert's the biggest 159 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: winner in all of this because Jim Harball plays a 160 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: style of football where it's not all on the quarterback 161 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: to win football games. And I feel like we have 162 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: seen Justin kind of try to put the team on 163 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: his back and sometimes it doesn't work out. And I 164 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna have to do that anymore. I 165 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: think it's I think his play is going to be 166 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 2: elevated because of Jim Harball. And I think that Jim Harball, 167 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: although it may take a year or two, right, there's 168 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: a lot of salary cap and things that need to 169 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: be kind of decided here over the next couple of months. 170 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: But the Chargers are really good hands and I think 171 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert of anybody here is probably the biggest winner. 172 00:08:59,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Certainly. 173 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: And you described it perfectly, which is we know the 174 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: style of football Jim Harball is going to play because 175 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: he has played it everywhere he's coached, whether that was 176 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: San Diego, Stanford, San Francisco, or Michigan. 177 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: It is all the same. 178 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: It is physical, it is line play, It is a 179 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: running game. It is a beat the snot out of 180 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: you and finish you off in the fourth quarter. And 181 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: for those that think, well, wait a minute, you got 182 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 3: this Ferrari and Justin Herbert and you're not going to 183 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: take it out a second gear, No, that's not what 184 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: it is. What it is is, Oh, we're setting you 185 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 3: up for the knockout. We're setting you up for the 186 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: knockout because we've got the heavyweight champ and he's just 187 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: gonna jab and jab and jab. Because our line's gonna 188 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 3: beat you up. The running game's gonna beat you up. 189 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 3: And when you're not looking, here comes play action downfield 190 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: home run. Because the Chargers have a guy that can 191 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: do that, and there's no better way to make Justin 192 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: Herbert more effective and to make use with a vertical 193 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: passing game in a downfield passing game than by having 194 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: defenses on their heels. How many times during the season 195 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: did we talk about the Chargers failing to dictate terms? 196 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: That it had been long been a I felt like 197 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: almost a mantra of mine that we would discuss this, 198 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: Chris that why is it that every game they go 199 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: into they allow the opponent to dictate the style of play. Oh, 200 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 3: we're going to let Tennessee drag us into the deep end. 201 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: We're going to play in a shootout with the Miami Dolphins. 202 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: No more. 203 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: From now on, Jim harbaughd dictates terms. You are going 204 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: to play a physical, slobber knocker style of football. And 205 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: I can tell you right now there are three people 206 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: in particular that we're not happy with the news today, 207 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: and they are Andy Reid, Antonio Pierce, and Sean Payton 208 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: because they know what this means. They know what it 209 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: means and what it feels like to come out of 210 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: a game that this guy coaches and how his teams 211 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: play and how his brother's teams play. Because look, they're 212 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 3: all Harbaughs. John and Jim are a product of Jack 213 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 3: and they all believe, and they're a product of beauchem Beckler, 214 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: and they are all a product of the same football philosophy, 215 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 3: and that is bust your ass in practice, play physically 216 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: and outlast. And we've talked about it in the past. 217 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: Tight end with his hand in the ground, full back 218 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: running God's play power, and you beat the opponent into 219 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: you beat him into submission, and that's how you win football. 220 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: And again, for people that don't think that necessarily is 221 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: in step with Justin Herbert, it is exactly in step 222 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 3: because now you have an opportunity to protect, to present 223 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: to him a counter punch. Doesn't have to do everything. 224 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: There's gonna be a big old back behind him. I 225 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 3: can promise you that. I don't know what his name 226 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: is yet, but it's gonna be two hundred and fifteen 227 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: pounds plus and it's gonna be a hammer. 228 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe it's Corum, could be could be you know, 229 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: we saw we saw Pete Carroll do that a little bit, 230 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: you know. 231 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: And that's the other thing that that to keep in mind. 232 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: This is someone who just coached thirteen games of college 233 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: football against some really, really good players, and he perhaps 234 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: has a better idea of those intangibles, the things that 235 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: aren't on a stat sheet or aren't a measurable that 236 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: shows up at the combine. But I remember, in this game, 237 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: in this moment, this is a guy who stepped up 238 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: and met the moment, and I those are things that 239 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: carry over. So you have this incredible advantage going into 240 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: the draft and going into undrafted college football college free 241 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: agents of that frame of knowledge and that base that 242 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: he has, and likely a number of his staff that 243 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: are going to be coming here with him that are 244 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: going to be able to share that with the new 245 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: general manager as well. 246 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: All Right, guys, a big thank you to our partner, 247 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: Microsoft Surface, the official sideline technology provider and laptop of 248 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: the NFL and the Los Angeles Chargers that provides players 249 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: and coaches with the tools to succeed both on and 250 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: off the field. Check out the powerful Surface Pro nine 251 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: combining the power of a laptop with the flexibility of 252 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: a tablet at Surface dot com. Speaking a new general 253 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: manager and you know, coaching staff, that's a big thing. 254 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: At this point, we'd just be speculating as to who's 255 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 2: going to be on the staff. You know, you hear 256 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 2: the name Jesse Mintzer from Michigan and that style of 257 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: defense that has been. 258 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: Really got to come. Chris, that has to come. 259 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 2: I mean, if it comes, he's so good. And you 260 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: look at what Mike McDonald's doing in Baltimore and just 261 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 2: how he has shut down the likes of Ben Johnson 262 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: and the Detroit Lions offense and Kyle Shanahan's offense and 263 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: really just just making it miserable for offenses all year long. 264 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: That style of play I think you can expect with 265 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: the Chargers. And obviously we will know much more about 266 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: who's going to be on the staff here in the 267 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: days and weeks to come, But you know, from a 268 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: general manager perspective, I think I just saw rap sheet 269 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: tweet that a Horties from Baltimore is going to be 270 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: flying in for a second interview. Obviously ties to John, 271 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: I think you cannot go wrong with anybody in the 272 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens front office. It's just a it's just a 273 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: proven track record of success from Newsom to Da Costa 274 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: to all all the guys that have been there for 275 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: a long time as well. So pairing Jim with somebody 276 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: that he's comfortable with, you know, you read the tea 277 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: leaves and that that could be a potential option here 278 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: as he flies in, I guess tomorrow. 279 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like it's down to two. That's what 280 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: it feels like. 281 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: Right Brandon Brown's in town today for his second interview, 282 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: and as we do this podcast, he's probably having dinner 283 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: with the spanos Is right now, or maybe that was 284 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: something this afternoon, and tomorrow it'll be Joe Ortiz. So 285 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: if I'm reading the tea leaves, those are your two 286 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: finalists and it comes down to them presenting their vision now. 287 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: I would imagine, you know, Brandon Brown presented it to 288 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh and the spanos Is today and tomorrow it'll 289 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: be Joe Ortiz that presents his vision to Jim Harbaugh 290 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: and the spanos Is as well. And it's that partnership 291 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: that we talked about. And I think for everybody that 292 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: thought Jim was going to want to rest too much control, 293 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: I think what we're seeing here is probably some pushback 294 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: on that as well, that no, I just want to 295 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: find the right person. Let me you know, let's make 296 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: sure that you're not going to hire a GM that's 297 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: a bigger personality than Jim Harbaugh. So you're going to 298 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: have to find someone that's a good partner with him. 299 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: He's just done it for too long. He's been too successful. 300 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: He's too good at what he does. He builds a 301 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: team a particular way and plays football a particular way. 302 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: So you're going to have to find that partnership. So 303 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: I think this is the smart way to do it. 304 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: Once Harbaugh agrees to the deal, let's highlight a couple that, 305 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: you know, a couple of the interviews that we really 306 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: like that we believe resonated with us, and let's present 307 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: those to coach and make sure everybody's got this partnership. 308 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: I would be I don't know if there is one, 309 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: but I'd be very surprised if we didn't discover that 310 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: there was some sort of connection with Coach Harbaugh and 311 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: Brandon Brown. I would imagine there's probably something there. I 312 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: don't know what it is because it came from the 313 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: Giants and so I don't know. I think it was 314 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: with the Eagles for a minute too, So not quite 315 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: sure if there's a relationship there or how the two 316 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: might know each other, but I would imagine there's there's 317 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: got to be something in that I think speaks to Hey, 318 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: you guys, this is this is a lot of work. 319 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: You know, building a team is a lot of work, 320 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: and it's not something that you can task head coach with. 321 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: It's just too hard to do. So you got to 322 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 3: find that right partner, and that's what I would imagine 323 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: they're they're getting into. But just going back to the 324 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: first point you made before you mentioned Georgiz is I've please, 325 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: I've got to believe that Jesse Minner is coming with them. 326 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: I just I have to believe a huge part of it. 327 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be, it'd be a huge get offensively. 328 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: You know, you've heard different names from Greag Roman, Kellam 329 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: Moore still in the building. It would just be speculating 330 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 2: at this point. But I think that we know the 331 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: identity of what the offense is going to be, and 332 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: it's just going to be an extension of what Jim 333 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: Harball has done at really every level that he's won 334 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: at And having Justin Herbert as the centerpiece isn't the 335 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: bad thing having Rashaun Slater. But looking at this roster, 336 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 2: money man, this is gonna be a lot of turnover. 337 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of turnover. It's gonna be a 338 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: lot of big decisions that need to be made. Not 339 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: everybody is going to be in that locker room in 340 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Probably a podcast for another day, but 341 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: just knowing that you have the head coach in tow, 342 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 2: you know, I think it puts a lot of players 343 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: on notice too, like, hey, this is the new sheriff 344 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: in town. It's gonna be a lot different than it's 345 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: been in the past. And you know it's all laid 346 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: out there now. You know, there's gonna be free agency 347 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: for a lot of guys. I think. You know, I'm 348 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: sure Jim has kept his eyes on the league and 349 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: has kind of skin this roster, skimmed this roster and 350 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: seeing the guys that he thinks he can win with 351 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: and guys that he thinks probably should go elsewhere, And 352 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: it's just gonna look drastically different. I don't think in 353 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: a bad way, Like I know, it's gonna take some time. 354 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to say that, hey, overnight, Jim Harball 355 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: is gonna be hoisting a Lombardi. You never know, but 356 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: there's a lot of work to be a couple of years. 357 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: You know. 358 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: He went from six and ten to thirteen and three 359 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship game in his first year, you know, 360 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: took a team that was six and ten his first 361 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 3: year coach of the forty nine ers thirteen and three. 362 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: Same players. Now they were really good players. But you saw, 363 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: you saw the leap from Navarro Bowman the elite. You 364 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 3: saw MyDD Brooks the leap, Alden Smith the elite, you know, 365 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: to all pro level players on the defensive side of 366 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: the ball. And then Alex Smith, who had almost been 367 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: written off to some degree. Now y's a team into 368 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game. Frank Gore, who had always been 369 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: a very steady player, now becomes a Pro Bowl and 370 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: All Pro level player. Under Jim Harbaugh, they built that 371 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: offensive line anchored by Joe Staley, and you just think 372 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: about what that old line looked like under Harbaugh. So 373 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: I'll give it to you. I don't want to put 374 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: you on the spot, Chris. But earlier today DJ came 375 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 3: on with Petros and me and he said, and I said, 376 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: what do you what do you make of the roster? 377 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: How much do you think it's going to chan? And 378 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: he said out he goes, well, because I was thinking 379 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: about this, and I'll put it to you and let's 380 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: see if we come up with the same names. Okay, 381 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: just give me some names of hardball players that are 382 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: already on the roster, and the exact same three we 383 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: because you know, it's not like I'm gonna go through 384 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: twenty players. 385 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: But the first three, He's like, there it. 386 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: Is Herbert, Rashawan, and Darwin. 387 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: So we did Herbert, We just took off the tape. 388 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: Okay, he Herbert it, yeah, obviously, Okay, so Herbert out 389 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 2: of it. Okay, uh, Rashawn, Darwin and Tuley. 390 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: There it is bing bang boom players. And what do 391 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: you got. 392 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 3: You got a defensive playmaker and a captain of the defense. 393 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: You got an edge rusher, and you got a left tackle. 394 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: It's a pretty good place to start. Yeah, those three 395 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: guys and. 396 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: Edge rusher, who has who has the effort level of 397 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: like a Max Fronz who just is always going, you know, 398 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: like like Rashwan, a big ten guys, So so hardball 399 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: coached against him. Tully, I think he's gonna a stud. 400 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: And then obviously, you know Derwin. We know what Drwin 401 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: has done in the past, and he had a tough 402 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: year last year, but I could see he might be. 403 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: The only guy. 404 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: He might be the only guy in the building that's 405 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: more competitive than Jim. Like that's that that to me, 406 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: is that that's to be able to have those three 407 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: things in Obviously the quarterback you have anchors defensive you know, 408 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 3: pass rusher, left tackle, captain of the defense, captain of 409 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: the offense. So you've got these foundational blocks that you 410 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: can now build around, you know, in terms of and 411 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: then like you said, we can get into it down 412 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: the road a little bit, but I do think it 413 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 3: bears mentioning. You're probably you're gonna need to remake I 414 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: think the tight end room in the running back room 415 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 3: to fit the style of play that Jim Harball requires. 416 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: You are going to need tight ends to play with 417 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: a hand in the ground and knock the snot out 418 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: of you. You're going to need a big back that 419 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 3: is going to be a hammer at the end of 420 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: games and able to change the you know, to change 421 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: the calculus of a defense as they're trying to get 422 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 3: the ball back. And you've got this massive offensive line 423 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: with tight ends, full backs, running backs that are coming 424 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 3: at you. So those those are things which you know, 425 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: we can get into the number five overall pick and 426 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: what that means, you know, for does that mean it 427 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: now becomes a tackle instead of a wide receiver? It 428 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: does it bring Rock Bauers into play now as a 429 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: full service tight end or does it still mean you know, 430 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: I need football, I need I need incredible football players. 431 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: And that's where the and when you think about the 432 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: receivers in this draft, you've got the Ferrari and Malik 433 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: neighbors and and to me and in both a Donsay 434 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 3: and and Hairs and Junior, you've got big, gnarly, punch 435 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: you in the face wide receivers that are physical, that 436 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: are explosive, that are true difference makers. And so it'll 437 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: be interesting to see what direction he wants to go 438 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: there or if you just want to trade out because 439 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 3: you know, you need to really rebuild this thing and 440 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: to restock it and to get a lot more bodies 441 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 3: that fit sort of this new style of play that 442 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 3: they're going to be getting after. 443 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, you know, I think i'd put Henley 444 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: as like the fourth. 445 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: Like I mentioned him too, and DJ was like, yeah, 446 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 3: he goes definitely, that's funny. So he was the other 447 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: one that I mentioned that the DJ's like, yeah, I 448 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: didn't think about the rookie Henley, but certain just because 449 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: we haven't seen him play a lot, But yes, certainly 450 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: I think that's someone. 451 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like. 452 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: Based on the way he played in college, no doubt 453 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 3: it's he. He looks like someone that he can really 454 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: especially look at those linebackers in Baltimore. Just so think 455 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: about this, Mike McDonald, Jesse Minner, these are guys that 456 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 3: were together. So Charger fans do yourself a favor and 457 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: pay very close attention to that Baltimore defense. That's what 458 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: we're talking about. With jesse Minner, that's what we're talking about. 459 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 3: He did at Michigan, and particularly when it comes to 460 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 3: Henley and Derwin. I want you get a look at 461 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: Patrick Queen and at Rokwan Smith and at Kyle Hamilton 462 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: and how those guys are playing. And that's kind of 463 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 3: what we're getting at with Henley and with Derwin and 464 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: what we're going to be looking. 465 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: For money money that the Sunday night game. I think 466 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: we talked about it afterwards, but I have never seen 467 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: a more violent defense than the Baltimore defense. Just like 468 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: the way that they were they were hitting that night, 469 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: and I know the Chargers kept it close but it's 470 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: a violent defense. And you know from Patrick Queen to 471 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 2: Roquan Smith. Like Roquan Smith, I think he was miked 472 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: up last week against Hugh Oh. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. 473 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: And if not mistaken, I think Ortiz is the one 474 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: who had really good notes on on Roquan and and 475 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: brought him Overge. 476 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, how do you how do you know that, Chris? 477 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: How do you know that about How do you know 478 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 3: that about Ortiz and Roquan? 479 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: Was it on X? 480 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: Nope? 481 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 3: Did you say that because John Harbaugh mentioned it in 482 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: his presser? And if and if and if you don't 483 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: think that John's trying to give his guy a little 484 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: nudge here, knowing that he was having that dinner tomorrow 485 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 3: or having that interview tomorrow, If you don't think he 486 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: wasn't trying to Hey, little nugget, Joe Ortiz is the 487 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: guy that that was doing all the work on Roquan 488 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: and convinced us to make this trade. And now you 489 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 3: see the benefits. You better believe that's brother sending a 490 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: signal to brother like, hey, I. 491 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: Got your guy. Okay, he's right here. This is going 492 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 1: to be your guy. I love what you's funny. 493 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: I love when the guys do that, though Muddy, like 494 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: I said, like Les Sneid did. He spent his first 495 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: three minutes of his uh yeah exit talking about Raheem 496 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: and it's just you know, you want to brag on 497 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: your guys, But I mean, yeah, how about that little nugget? 498 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 499 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: When I heard I was watching the pressure today, I 500 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: started cracking up. I was like, this is too good. 501 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: John trying to send a signal to the Chargers into 502 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: his brother. Hey, this guy's been doing it here for 503 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: twenty five years. He deserves a shot. He's really good. 504 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 3: Which is interesting because you know we play the the 505 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: Chargers play the AFC North next year, so we're gonna 506 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: be at Baltimore. 507 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: We got a hardball Bowl. 508 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 2: You don't know it's it's it's in La. 509 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: Oh, it's in La. 510 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: I think it's in La. Let me just check that 511 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: as we you know this is. 512 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: A or are we in Pittsburgh in Cleveland? You're right, 513 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 3: I think we're I think we're in Pittsburgh and we're 514 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: in Cleveland and we have Baltimore here, yeap, Baltimore, absolutely. 515 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: Right, Because uh fans were saying like, oh, that should 516 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: be the kickoff game. If the Ravens win the Super Bowl, 517 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: it won't be. The Ravens are gonna get the rain 518 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: on the open. But you know what, somebody mentioned Thanksgiving, 519 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: and I feel like that's the perfect primetime Thanksgiving game. 520 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: Is the Brothers family coming together in Los Angeles. I 521 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 2: have to believe it's gonna be a primetime game, and 522 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: I think that that may be the best plate for it. 523 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: So you know, once the schedule comes out, we can 524 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: we can dish on that, but sure, I don't. I 525 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: don't know what else you want to talk about right now, 526 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: because there's so much that's going to come out. As 527 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: we take this on a Wednesday tomorrow, we're probably gonna 528 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: get a little bit more intel as to who some 529 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: of the coordinators he's eyeing, the general manager is gonna 530 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: come out. I just I'm I'm happy for Chargers fans 531 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: because you and I see all the same comments and 532 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: just the way that this is kind of dragged out. 533 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: Since that that that game in Las Vegas, we've kind 534 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: of hit different stages of I can't believe this is 535 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: happening too. All right, Let's let's finish the season two, 536 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna interview cast a wide net. The 537 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: wide net was casting. I mean, I give the Spanish 538 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: family a lot of credit for casting this wide net 539 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: and interviewing the likes of Mike Rabel and Ben Johnson 540 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: and all these up and comers too, leaving no stone 541 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: unturned because obviously, you know Jim Harball, you don't know 542 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: what he's gonna do. You don't know what he ultimately 543 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: wanted to do. But we found out today. And I 544 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: give the Spanish family a ton of credit for making 545 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: sure that they get this thing right. And they closed 546 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: the deal, and they certainly did it. 547 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you better coming off a five and twelve season 548 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: and having six primetime games that probably did not excite 549 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: the networks too much. Toward the end of the season, 550 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: they're thinking, probably dial this back now down there like 551 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: maybe three. No, Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert, you better 552 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: believe there's gonna be a lot of prime time. There's 553 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: gonna probably be a holiday game in there. There may 554 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: be a flight to Germany to play the Panthers or 555 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: a flight to Brazil to play somebody out. I mean, 556 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: this is this is a this a big day. It's 557 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: a big day, and a huge congratulations to John and 558 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: Dean Spanos and to everybody else in the front office 559 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: that was part of this, you know, Ed and Janie 560 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: and just everybody that works up there. That's all part 561 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: of the decision making process, because look, they hired a 562 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: superstar and you need it in this market. And beyond that, 563 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: so much more important than that, they hired the guy 564 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: that everybody thinks is going to bring a super Bowl. 565 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 3: It's going to maximize the talents of Justin Herbert in 566 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: ages twenty six through thirty one at least, and I 567 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: hope twenty six through thirty six and forty or whatever 568 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: that the two of them are going to be locked 569 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: like Belichick and Brady, Harbaugh and Herbert. It works as 570 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: we said, you know, with alliteration, and it's exactly what 571 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: this franchise needed. You can't not take advantage of the 572 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: talent you have at quarterback when it's a quarterback league. 573 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: You needed someone that was a winner more than anything. 574 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: We discussed that at nauseum, that you needed someone to 575 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: walk through those doors at that new facility in June 576 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: that players look at and go, this guy knows how 577 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: to win. He's gonna He's gonna kick my ass, you know, 578 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: in camp and in practice, and that cake walk is 579 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: over and it's going to be physical, and it's not 580 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: gonna be fun. He's gonna air you out, he's gonna 581 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: run hot, and he's gonna hold you accountable and things 582 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: are gonna be a little uncomfortable, but he's gonna win. 583 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 3: So that's all he's done his whole life. And there 584 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: it just it made too much sense. It made way 585 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: too much sense for these two parties to get together 586 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: and do this. Someone as competitive as he is, with 587 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: the advantage you have with the quarterback, with the situation 588 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: where you've got both jobs open, to pair it up 589 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: with a general manager, you've got a top five pick, 590 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: and you still have anchors, young anchors on your team 591 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: to build around in Slater to Lee, Derwin and Justin 592 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: and it just I can't wait to see what it 593 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: looks like. Like you said, there's still because we're doing 594 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: this right after the announcement, still a lot to be 595 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: sorted out. Once the staff gets put together and the 596 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: general manager is announced, we'll come back to another one 597 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: and start to break down how this thing might shake out. 598 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: But for now, you got to play Andy Reid, Sean 599 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: Payton twice a year. Antonio Pierce knocked the Chargers around 600 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: for sixty three. Our old friend Tom Telesco's over there. 601 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 3: You know, we know what he does with his first 602 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: round picks. They got the thirteenth pick. Now you got 603 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: to find a quarterback. Be interesting to see where they 604 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: go with that. But you know, and that's just the division, Chris, 605 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh's got to go up against John Harbaugh. He's 606 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: got up against Mike Tomlin. You know, he's got to 607 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: go up against you know, Josh Allen and Joe Burrow. 608 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: This is a gnarly division. And now knowing that the 609 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: Chargers not only have the quarterback, they have the head 610 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: coach that you believe can go in with a game 611 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: plan and win any of these games because he's proven 612 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: he's done it in the past, all the way to 613 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: the super Bowl. It's just a completely completely different feeling 614 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: around this team moving forward. 615 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: They got an alpha now, I mean they got a 616 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: guy who you know, money. Like you said, there's not 617 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: many coaches that could come into the AFC West and 618 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: still be an alpha, right. There's maybe Belichick and Harball. 619 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: I don't think there's another coach. Yeah, maybe Vayble to 620 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: a smaller degree, but you have Harball and I just 621 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this because you've been the voice 622 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: of the Chargers since they moved up to Los Angeles 623 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, and there's always been kind of stages here, right. 624 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's very hard to move a team. They 625 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: were at the stub Hub Center and Dignity Hell Sports 626 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: Park for a few years. The big shiny Sofi Stadium 627 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: was kind of you know, it was a little that 628 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: sobering when COVID happened and you couldn't have fans in 629 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: the stands, and then you know, the second your fans 630 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: come into Sofi. They have a brand new facility now 631 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: that they're opening later this year. That's about ten minutes 632 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: from Sofi Stadium, right next to Lax and El Segunda, 633 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: right next to the Lakers and the Kings. And now 634 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: they have a Hall of Fame type head coach, someone 635 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: who's been to a Super Bowl and just won a 636 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: national championship. I think that this is finally the year 637 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: that we can say the Chargers are here. Right. They 638 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: have plannar roots in Los Angeles, They have their own 639 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: brand new facility, and they got a pretty good head 640 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: coach to boot with a franchise quarterback. So today feels different, right, 641 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: It just from everything that's happened over the last several 642 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: years and stay in the course and trying to find 643 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: the right formula. Seems like today they found. 644 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: It, no doubt. 645 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: And just look at the final four and you tip 646 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 3: your cap to Dan Campbell for getting the Lions there. 647 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: But I think in the case of the Lions, you 648 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: had top ten picks for the last half decade. It's 649 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 3: about time you cash those things in, you know. But 650 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan been to a Super Bowl. Andy Reid has 651 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: won multiple Super Bowls. John Harbaugh has won a Super Bowl. Like, 652 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 3: here's what matters in this league, coaching and quarterbacking. Coaching 653 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: and quarterbacking, and maybe you have one that surpasses the 654 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 3: other considerably and that's why you get here. And or 655 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: maybe you have both, or maybe the quarterback is just 656 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: so good it overcomes everything. That's what I'm talking about. 657 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 3: And look for Dan Campbell for all the incoming he 658 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: took at that presser, you know, the bite and the 659 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: kneecap on the way down, and bite your kneecap on 660 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 3: the way back up and oh, there's just some meathead. 661 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 3: They took on his personality, they took on that team 662 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: plays the way that guy talks, and there's not a 663 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 3: lot of physical teams like that. Baltimore Ravens are a 664 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 3: physical team. We know the San Francisco defense is a 665 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: physical team. We see that the Chiefs have the greatest 666 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 3: quarterback of his generation right now, of his era, right 667 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: now and perhaps could go down as perhaps of all time. 668 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean, six consecutive AFC Championship games. My god, so 669 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: and and you have a Lions team, physical team. 670 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: What do they do? 671 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 3: Lions run the ball, Run the hell out of the ball. 672 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 3: That's why they drafted Jamior Gibbs number twelve overall. And 673 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 3: nobody's making fun of that pick now, and what that 674 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 3: guy can do? You know they drafted old lineman Taylor 675 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: Decker first round or Piney Sewell first rounder. Look at 676 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers traded multiple picks to get Christian McCaffrey, 677 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 3: a former first rounder here. That's what they want of 678 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: their identity, to be traded a first round or to 679 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: get Trent and Williams paid him a bunch of money. 680 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 3: What do the Ravens do O line and run the 681 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 3: ball with you know like it works, it works. And 682 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 3: now the now the Chargers happened. They got it with 683 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: a quarterback, and they got it with a head coach, 684 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 3: and man, I would it's early. They got to prove it. 685 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 3: I'd put that pair up against anybody. You tell me 686 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: you can take any head coach and quarterback pairing in 687 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 3: the league. And I know it'll start with Andy Reid 688 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: and Patrick Mahomes because of what they've been able to 689 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: do together. But man, this is this might be right 690 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 3: behind it. You know, John Harbalamar Jackson is gonna win 691 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 3: a second MVP this year. 692 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: This is right there. I believe that to be the case. 693 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you can retool and reload pretty quickly in 694 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: the NFL. And again there's there's a lot of household 695 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: names that frankly can't be here next year because of 696 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: the cap numbers. So we're gonna find out who those 697 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: names are going to be very shortly. But you know, 698 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: you mentioned the Lions, and you know they really they 699 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: hit on that, that Golf and Stafford trade. But but 700 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: I just I look at the contributions that they've gotten. 701 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: You mentioned Jamir Gibbs, Sam Laporta, I mean Campbell, they're there, 702 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 2: their linebacker, I mean Jack. You have guys that are 703 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 2: contributing immediately. And again, if you bring in a smart 704 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: personnel mind and pair him with Harball, Harball knows his 705 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: tight he knows what he needs to be successful, whether 706 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: that's in free agency or the draft. So if you 707 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: hit on some draft picks, retool this roster and maybe 708 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 2: get more out of some of the guys who are 709 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 2: currently on the rostery. I don't know who it's going 710 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 2: to be, but I venture to say there's some guys 711 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: that are currently on this roster that maybe didn't perform 712 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 2: or you didn't see their potential this year, You'll see 713 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: it this year, right. Jim Harbaugh's gonna identify some guys 714 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 2: that he said, you know what, I think that this 715 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: guy could be better. I think he can fit in 716 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: my system, but we got to get more out of him. 717 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: What does he do better? And I don't know who 718 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 2: those guys are, like I said, but I have a 719 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: feeling that there's some players on this roster that maybe 720 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 2: didn't make the impact in twenty twenty three, that they're 721 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: going to make in twenty twenty four. 722 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say, you know, one that's a free agent 723 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 3: that we didn't mention, and I think is fair and 724 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 3: because he doesn't necessarily fit the profile of a Jim 725 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 3: Harbaugh type. But man, you'd be hard pressed to tell 726 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 3: me that Gerald Everett wasn't one of the hardest workers 727 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 3: and one of the biggest effort givers from this past 728 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 3: season when it did not matter what the score was. 729 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 3: I'll never forget him for that Raider game when they 730 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 3: were down and he's out there cracking helmets and fighting 731 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 3: for extra yards and still yapping at guys and trying 732 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 3: to get something going with this team. And I think 733 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: we've seen that from him. You put someone one on 734 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 3: one with Gerald Everett, he's going to break the tackle. 735 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 3: You're not getting him down, And so I think they're 736 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 3: you know, that's just to your point that there may 737 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: be players you don't think of on this roster that 738 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 3: that end up. Isaiah Spiller's a big back. It's a 739 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 3: big dude, you know, so you know, think about he's 740 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 3: he's a bigger guy. He's a lot bigger than Austin 741 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 3: and Joshua. So I think it's you know, that's that's 742 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 3: another one that comes to mind is here's a legitimate 743 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 3: two fifteen, two hundred and twenty pound back. You know, 744 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 3: the clock's in at six feet and that's sort of 745 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 3: more in the style. So yeah, like you're gonna you're 746 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 3: gonna carry over a lot of these players. 747 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of the Yeah, I was. 748 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 2: Gonna say money like saw your or Zion, Like those 749 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: are the guy guys I'm thinking about, Like they have 750 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 2: an extra gear they got to get to right, and 751 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: I think the gym could probably get that. 752 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 3: No, that's the whole line play, you know, o line, 753 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 3: and that'll be the interesting you know, that'll be the 754 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: interesting debate. You know, you're I don't think you're gonna 755 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 3: get rid of all four those guys, all four of 756 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 3: those contracts. Maybe you do, but you you can keep one. 757 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 3: You can restructure, you can figure it out, you know, 758 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 3: it certainly seems I think about Justin Smith and then 759 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 3: I look at Joey Bos and I'm like, eh, I 760 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 3: see that. 761 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: I can see it. And also, let's not. 762 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 3: Forget I've you know, I feel bad doing it, but 763 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: I've told the story before. I remember standing on the 764 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 3: sideline at training camp when joint practices Joey Bosa's I 765 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 3: can't remember who he was running with. Maybe it was 766 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 3: Kamara or so who did they who do they have 767 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 3: joint practices with? 768 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: This year? Was it? Uh? 769 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 2: This year? It was uh? 770 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: It was it New Orleans? 771 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: It was New Orleans, it was New Orleans. Yeah, it 772 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 2: was New Orleans. 773 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: Yeah it was New Orleans. Or No, No, it wasn't 774 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't New Orleans. Yeah it was. It was because Derek. 775 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: Carr was I wanted you to sit with that with 776 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 2: Derek Carr. 777 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 3: Right, And I remember Joey ended up. I remember Joey 778 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: ended up. Or it may have been two years ago 779 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 3: when he ended up covering Kittle, or maybe it was 780 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 3: this year. 781 00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: No, it's this year. 782 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 3: He was covering Commar and he just looks up and 783 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 3: he's like, what am I ef in doing? Like what 784 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 3: am I even effing? And like, I think we've heard 785 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 3: that he was never quite comfortable with what was asked 786 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 3: of him. Yeah, and so there's I think that's something 787 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 3: to keep in mind with with Joey and and moving 788 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 3: forward and all those names I rattled off, you know, 789 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 3: mod Brooks, Alden Smith, Justin Smith and those dudes that 790 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 3: performed and just think about the guys up at Michigan 791 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 3: and and how those guys have for all those aiden 792 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 3: Hutchinson Joey Bosa, Like, come on, I mean we're we're 793 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 3: shopping in the same aisle on that exactly. So that's 794 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 3: something I think to keep an eye on. I if 795 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 3: Joey Bosa stays healthy, it's not even in the conversation. 796 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: It's what's this cap number thirty two? All right, we'll 797 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,479 Speaker 3: figure out how to work around that. Well, we'll figure 798 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 3: out how to work around that. Let's let's let's sort 799 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 3: that out, because that guy ain't going anywhere. I know 800 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 3: the injuries are a concern, but that's a Jim Harbaugh player, 801 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: if you know, just going back to what he had 802 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 3: in San Francisco and what he's had in Michigan. There's 803 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 3: always been a pass rusher in the first round or 804 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 3: second round from Michigan in the draft. 805 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: And man like I think Khalil Macks a harball player too. 806 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 2: It's just that does does the money work? Right? A 807 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: guy who is a veteran who can play on the 808 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: other side of Tully. Let's say, I don't think you 809 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 2: can go wrong with Joey or Khalil Heck, it'd be 810 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 2: great to have them both, but just the cap is 811 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,479 Speaker 2: telling us something else. 812 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 3: I think the cap would suggest otherwise that it's going 813 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 3: to be hard to keep both of them. You're probably 814 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 3: gonna have to pick, would be my guess. 815 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that's again, and. 816 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 3: That could mean what can you fetch in a trade? 817 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 3: You get anything for Khalil in a trade? Maybe can 818 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,919 Speaker 3: you get anything for Joey boson the trade? Yes, even 819 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 3: with the injuries. Absolutely, I can promise you people are 820 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 3: going to be lined up to trade for that guy. 821 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 3: So that's where I guess a little bit of the 822 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 3: conversation could come in, because you get to get rid 823 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 3: of more of the dead money if you end up 824 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 3: with a trade, as opposed to just straight out moving on. 825 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: I want to ask you how weird it was for 826 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 2: you to watch Tom tell. 827 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: Us go to the Raiders press conference today. 828 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 3: Funny, it was really funny to see the water that 829 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 3: said just win baby on it as hilarious. But I'm 830 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 3: happy for Tom. He's a great guy. He's a great friend, 831 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 3: great friend of the show that we do. Watched it 832 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 3: all the time. We talk to us about what we've 833 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 3: been talking about. Just a really good person that you 834 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 3: know you can always, you can always, and I guess 835 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 3: maybe we can help him out a little bit by 836 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 3: crafting a narrative. But you can always tell the character 837 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 3: of someone based on how they treat people that can't 838 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 3: quite elevate them in their professional lives, and Tom, I 839 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 3: think is a testament to that and all the relationships 840 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 3: that he had with people on the team. So happy 841 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 3: for him, family, trust, respect, But still very happy for 842 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 3: him and happy you know, he gets to stay close 843 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 3: to home, his son can finish up his final year 844 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 3: at CDM with with him just being over in Vegas, 845 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 3: a quick jump away, and in that way, they're they're 846 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: square there. 847 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: So I'm happy for him. 848 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 3: But yeah, sweep them and let them win all the 849 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 3: year now and then meet him in the playoffs and 850 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 3: win a third time, no. 851 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 2: Doubt, no doubt. Yeah, Tom's all class. 852 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 3: Uh. 853 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 2: And it's just football, you know, It's just football, and 854 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 2: that's the business people people bounce around all the time. 855 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: And I'm glad that he laid it on his feet. 856 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 2: And it's going to just add more injury to the division. 857 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: Man. 858 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you have Antonio Piers, a young and upcoming 859 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: coach who isn't in the same class as as a 860 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: paytent or a hardball or a read. But you never 861 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 2: know what he can become. And you know there they 862 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 2: may be a quarterback away. Their defense played really well 863 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 2: down the stretch. We know that. 864 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 3: It's weird, though, Chris, isn't it. It is weird that 865 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 3: Raiders hung a sixty three on the Chargers and they 866 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 3: hire Time and the Dolphins scored on every possession in 867 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 3: the opening week against Brandon and had like two hundred 868 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 3: yards of a half for Tyreek Hill and they hire 869 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 3: him as their DC. 870 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 2: It's like, are they gonna hire him? 871 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, They're gonna hire him. Yeah. Wow, wow, it 872 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: is It is funny. 873 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 2: It is funny. 874 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: This is weird. 875 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 2: It's but whatever, and this is man, this is just January. 876 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 2: It's gonna get weirder. There's a lot more openings, free 877 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 2: agency trades. I mean, I can't wait for all of it. 878 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 2: The Combine. We're gonna be cooking at the combine. Man, 879 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna be cooking at the combin. It's gonna be 880 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. 881 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun combine trip. 882 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 3: We'll be doing it from there. 883 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 2: I think that. 884 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 885 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: I think next week we're gonna have a lot of 886 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 2: a lot of fun stuff and sore for you guys 887 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: once we kind of get the the press conference stuff 888 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 2: all shaped out and hopefully talk to a lot of 889 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 2: people next week about a new day in Los Angeles 890 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 2: for the Chargers. Jim Harball is the head coach and 891 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 2: we're just getting started. When it comes to content, I'm 892 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 2: glad that we were able to do this money. If 893 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 2: you're listening to this on Wednesday night, congratulations you're one 894 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 2: of the first few to do so, because I think 895 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 2: this thing is going up right away. 896 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: Looking forward to it. 897 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 2: All right, guys for money, I'm Chris. This has been 898 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: Charged Weekly. We'll see you next time.