WEBVTT - #613 Packers Unscripted: West Coast challenge 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:11.080 Hi, everybody, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.240 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:17.200 partner in crime, Wes Hodkuwitz. Were coming to hear from 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.360 our studios at lambeau Field West just a few days 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:24.319 away now on this short week Sunday night football from 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:28.160 San Francisco, Santa Clara, California, Levi Stadium, the Packers will 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:33.080 be visiting the forty Niners important game here in week three, 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.240 and UH wanted to get your thoughts initially on this 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.720 team that is too and oh with victories over the 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.080 Lions and the Eagles, and uh, I guess in short, 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.480 this is a Niners team that is looking a lot 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.400 more like the one from two years ago as opposed 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.680 to the one from last year that was just ravaged 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.200 by injuries. Yeah, I mean they're more complete. I mean 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.080 other than the backfield, which ye right now, the running 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.520 backs they've they've got an injury situation there for sure. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.960 But but as Matt Lafleur even said during his news 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.600 conference on Wednesday, much like it's been underneath Kyle Shanahan, 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.520 they still find ways to move the football regardless of 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.600 really who's in that backfield. You know, Jimmy Garoppolo I thought, 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.560 has played really good, high percentage football here early on. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.960 We obviously saw Trey Lance have that touchdown pass in 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.560 the opener. That's going to continue to be a storyline 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.600 for them. But let's be honest, since the very beginning, 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.760 since the day that they really started becoming more of 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.760 a power in the NFC, it's been based around their defense. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.800 It's been based around, you know, protecting the football. And 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.400 I think they've gotten back to those principles now. Certainly 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.959 they have, you know, one of the top three, maybe 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.760 top two pass rushers in the game right now in 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.800 Nick Bosa. There's a lot of guys that they can 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.600 turn to in addition to a defensive scheme that they 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.840 still have a lot of confidence in. Despite the fact 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.000 Robert Salom moved on to New York so last year, 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.400 I think that they largely view that as an anomaly. 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.000 Everything that happened. They basically had the kitchen sink thrown 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.120 at them from an injury standpoint. This year, they're hoping 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.680 that other than that backfield situation which has been in flux, 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.280 that that they're back to, uh, you know, having their 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.799 their main weapons offensively. Yeah, and one of those is 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.440 tight end George Kittle, who was one of those guys 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.840 going down with an injury last season and uh Packers 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.320 obviously know that regular season game out there in twenty nineteen, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.080 George Kittle was a big difference maker, big time playmaker. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.440 He's one of the top tight ends in this game. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.880 And statistically so far this year, Deebo Samuel through two games, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:38.480 fifteen catches, two two yards, including a seventy nine yard touchdown. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.000 Those are pretty good numbers for the first quarter of 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.519 a season, and he's got that through two weeks here. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.560 So he is definitely another go to guy there in 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.200 the passing game for San Francisco. And and when they 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.440 drafted him, Mike, I think that the general consensus was 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.600 is that this guy is gonna be a perfect fit 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.120 for the type of offense that Shanahan likes to run. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.280 And and as you've seen, a mean the ways that 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.680 they can use him. How explosive he is, um he's not. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.040 You know, he's still a six ft receiver too. I mean, 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.440 I don't want to throw comparisons into like the Davante 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.239 Adams Is of the world, but you can see how 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.399 he just He's so well rounded that I think it's 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.240 really going to make him a dangerous weapon in this 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.560 offense for years to come. And certainly Jimmy Garoppolo, as 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.000 you mentioned with the seventy nine yard touchdown pass, has 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.959 found that comfort zone with him. And that's been important, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.120 right because, as you said, Kittle, uh for being right 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.200 up there in the conversation, is the top two, top 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.280 three tight end in this league. You know, has been 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.360 off to a slower start with some of his stats. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.800 Do you lose Raheem Mostert Now you have Elijah Mitchell's 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.080 dealing with the shoulder injury. Samuel has been the constant 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.160 for them right now offensively, and as I mentioned as well, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.360 the fact that Garoppolo, for everything that has happened, for 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.400 all the conversations about Trey Lance or you know these 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.120 multituded you know quarterbacks that might be looking at this offseason, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.920 Garoppolo has kept it very simply. He stayed very focused 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.800 and obviously has found a really good offensive weapon for himself. Yeah, 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.160 and on the defensive side for the forty Niners. Really, 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.120 other than the last what would you say, six minutes 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.120 of that Week one game against Detroit, this has been 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.920 a defense that that has played pretty darn well through 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.000 the first two weeks of the season. The Lions did 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.440 not do much offensively until very late in the game. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.320 The Philadelphia Eagles never really got their offense going against 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.200 the Niners last week. Now they're actually at home for 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.520 the first time in one This will be their home 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:29.279 opener coming off of two road victories, and on the 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.000 Packers side of things up front, the Packers have some 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.839 questions here to answer on the offensive line because Elton 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.520 Jenkins he missed Wednesday's practice with an ankle injury. Now, 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:43.080 obviously the injury cropped up on Monday night, um Wednesday 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.799 getting back on the practice field on a short week, 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.520 it's not unusual for guys to have missed there. But 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.000 we just have to see how the rest of the 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.200 week plays out, if Jenkins is going to be able 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.560 to go at left tackle or if the Packers have 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.120 to make adjustments. And then they're still deciding on what 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.440 to do at left guard as well, whether you go 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.200 with John Onion or Lucas Patrick. And you have the 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.440 two rookies Josh Meyers and Royce Newman who will be 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:10.160 playing really essentially their first crowd noise game in the NFL. Now, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.120 these guys are not strangers to crowd noise, having come 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.640 from the big time power conferences in in college football. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.800 But still this will be an adjustment, another one of 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.560 those steps along the way for rookies. On the offensive 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.680 line for the Packers, there's a lot to There's a 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.680 lot to sort out up front to to get this 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.800 offense where it needs to be to beat this well. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.359 And this is this first week after we notice on 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.600 Wednesday that Elton Jenkins was the only one not practicing. 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.160 It's the first time there really has been any questions 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.039 at left tackle for Green Bay and that is a 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.000 remarkable luxury considering you lost a five time All Pro 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.440 and David bok tr for the first six games of season. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.880 As he comes back from the a c L. Jenkins 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.280 has been that darn good. He hasn't been without flaw, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.960 but for a guy that is a left guard by trade, 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.640 the transition he's made in some of the pass rushers 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.960 he's seen these first two weeks, you have to tip 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.640 your cap to him and the job that he's done. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.080 That being said, beyond Jenkins, there are a lot of 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.279 questions there. I mean, yosh Niman is a guy that 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.080 has been here now for two going on three years, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:12.600 but has been a real long term developmental project for them. Physically, 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.200 has all the tools you look for. I thought at 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.920 the left tackle position really benefited for how many reps 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.560 he took this offseason, but still has really never played 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.840 in an NFL game extensively beyond some some snaps at 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.680 the end. You also have Dennis Kelly available. He had 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.560 the knee injury at the end of camp. He's had 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.360 some traditional experience at left tackle, though he's played mostly 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.200 on the right side. Played on the right side last 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:38.039 year for Tennessee and seventeen starts. There are options, But 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.600 when you're going from talking about all pros and Pro 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.840 Bowlers that this is a scenario which Packers were really 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.760 lucky that a lot of other teams aren't. That you've 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.599 been able to look into Elton Jenkins. So we have 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.119 to see how the week goes there. That being said, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:55.479 the different packages, you know, Bosa, Fred Warner, the amount 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.080 of playmakers that are on the San Francisco defense. Mike, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.880 I've been covering the Packers for nine years now full 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.240 time on a basis knows my tenth season, every single gosh, 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.920 darn year. They have had linebackers, they've had pass rushers, 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.000 they have had different coordinators, and yet they've been able 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.240 to maintain that standard. Damiko Ryan's is doing that now 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.720 with this defense. Still a lot of the same principles 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.840 you see from Robert Sala, but they're getting after it, man, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.360 and they have some pretty talented guys to do it with. Yeah, 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.320 so let's get down to business here. What are the 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.480 keys to victory for the Packers and what is going 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.360 to be a very challenging road game. Let's start on 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.280 the offensive side of the ball. What's it going to 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.160 take here for the Packers to emerge victorious. You're going 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.600 back to the Bay Area. I think you got to 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.080 get in the red zone quick, and I think you 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.080 gotta put up some points. Uh. You know. Defensively, you 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.320 hope that the Packers have turned a corner. You saw 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.720 the adjustments they made in the second half against the Lions, 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.160 being able to get a little bit more pressure on 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.600 Jared Goff. I think they found something with Eric Stokes. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.280 I don't know what the plan is going to be 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.480 moving forward with how you get him on the field more, 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.960 but he played well on the perimeter. I thought it 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.040 was a really good option across from Jayrell Exander. But 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.320 at the same time, this is about offensive football, and 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.280 when you go on the road, you need your offense 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.640 to set the tone. You talked about the crowd noise. 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.360 You need to be able to take the crowd out 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.360 of it what is probably gonna be a very energetic 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.960 atmosphere inside Levi Stadium. That's where I think it's on 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:17.960 Aaron Rodgers. I think it's on this Packers run game. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.000 It's on Davante Adams last week. I mean, even though 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.040 it wasn't a picture perfect start, the fact that they 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.240 came out with that eleven play drive for seventy five 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.720 yards and got in the end zone. I really feel 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.320 like that's what allowed Green Bay to stem that tide 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.000 early on defensively and then ultimately take the momentum from there. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.000 I'm looking for points early, I'm looking for production early, 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:38.600 and I'm looking for the Packers to shorten up this 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.640 football game. Yeah, I'm with you. I think I think 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:44.040 a fast start offensively, I mean, even after the Monday 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.839 night victory over the Lions, Matt Lafleur said it, Aaron 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.880 Rodgers said it, a fast start really on both sides 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.600 of the ball, but particularly offensively. I think the Packers 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.560 feel like they have to come out and set some 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.120 kind of a tone on offense. They know they've got 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.439 to get the ball to the playmakers, starting with Aaron 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.320 Jones and Advante Adams, and then you work in the 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:07.720 other complimentary pieces Robert Tunyan mvs. Al Lazard, whoever that 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.199 might be a J. Dillon getting some opportunities when Aaron 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.640 Jones needs a breather. But it starts with thirty three 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.880 and seventeen with with twelve at the controls, and it 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:23.120 really feels like the Packers cannot afford to go one 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.200 or two possessions at the start of this game without 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.200 getting some points on the board, because otherwise it feels 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.640 like it could turn into a really long night. It 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.080 really does. And and that's where if you look at 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.800 San Francisco, while they did obviously give up some production 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.520 laid against Detroit, that's been the commonality here in these 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.839 early games. It's just how they've set the tone with 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.760 what they've done defensively and kind of allowed the offense 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.040 to find its rhythm from there. And and realistically, I mean, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.880 I'll say it again, Mike, I really love what San 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.880 Francisco has done with their defense. In some ways, it 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.880 kind of reminds me of Seattle from a number of 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:58.640 years ago, where Okay, you know where you have your 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.680 big three four, big playmate kers, but they augment that 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.440 you have a DeFord in there now as a rotational guy, 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.840 you know, Eric Armstead, Josh Norman's on this football team. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:12.040 I mean, they they have depth, inexperienced depth, depth positions 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.680 in addition to the guys that are really your headline makers, 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.720 the guys that are that are helping you with you know, 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:20.680 kind of cultivate a really strong defensive presence. That to me, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.000 for green Bay, I think you got to find a 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:23.640 way to break that. You have to find a way 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.160 to do it. At the times in which Green Bay 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.360 has been successful against San Francisco over the last half 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.240 dozen years, it's been when offensively they've been able to 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.440 put thirty points on the board, you know, and if 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.080 the defense steps up and they get off to a 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.360 fast start this week for green Bay, fantastic. But offensively, 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:38.839 you know, when you're going on the road and you're 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.360 playing in front of seventy thou people, I think that's 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:45.079 what's required in order to to really set your own tempo. Yeah. Absolutely. 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.319 On the defensive side of the ball, some some fascinating 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.280 matchups and decisions and what not to watch here. As 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.480 far as how Green Bay handles this game, you mentioned 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.840 already with Stokes. What are the Packers going to do 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.440 with Stokes? What role is he going to have now 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.960 that he went from just playing a handful of snaps 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.679 in the opener against the Saints to playing forty plus 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.640 snaps and having a much bigger role in the defense 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.760 in week two. So there's that. Do you just match 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.000 up toyear Alexander on Deebo Samuel for the entire game? 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.040 Do you do you match there? Or you know, do 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.240 you have Alexander play sides again? Another question that will 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.640 have to see how they answer it. And then what 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:26.120 do you do against George Kittle? Because Juwan Johnson for 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.040 the Saints at tight end two touchdown receptions in week one. 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:33.080 T J. Hockenson, who really is the key target for 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.240 the Lions in in their passing game, didn't have any 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.199 huge monster plays over the top or anything like that, 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.440 but a very productive game and he got in the 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.000 end zone as well for Detroit. So the Packers have 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.040 given up some tight end production and now here comes 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.520 George Kittle into the mix. And uh, you know, you 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:54.240 can certainly play a bracket coverage type of thing on 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.240 Kittle with a linebacker in front and a safety behind. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.920 We saw the Packers doing that in some instances a 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:03.559 against Hackinson. But if you do that, obviously you're sacrificing 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.840 somewhere else defensively. And uh, and those are the decisions 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.360 you have to make. Where where can you sacrifice if 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.080 you want to try to take take George Kittle out 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.320 of things, or at least limit his production. It's an 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.679 excellent point you raise. And you know Green Bay they 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.640 want to get more from their pass rush, right. That's 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.679 been sort of the statement here the first couple of weeks. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.800 Green Bay could have a really strong pass rushing performance 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.240 in this game. It still might not be enough, just 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.120 based on how San Francisco's offensive line is built. I mean, 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.440 they have too of probably the best at their positions 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.319 in the last decade in Trent Williams at left tackle, 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.280 Alex mckets center, you have Mike mcglenchy at right tackle. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.240 I mean obviously um Lake and Thompinson's a guy too 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:41.600 that has been in the league for a long time. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.880 They've only given up one sack this year on Garoppolo, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.680 So what does that mean. That means that you're hoping 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.080 for the best from the pass rush, but you may 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.720 need to cover, you may need to plaster. You mentioned 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.719 the two biggest question marks I think for green Bay 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:57.280 heading into this game, beginning with Kittle, because to me, 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.640 this reminded me of the old Morgan Burnett games where 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.520 it's like, take Morgan Burnett, you put him on the 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.640 you put him on the tight end, and you give 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.520 him some help occasionally, but that's going to be his 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.960 assignment for this game. We called it the hybrid Nitro. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.800 Whatever you want to that. That was the thing. Maybe 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.840 this is a game where you see either a Savage 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.800 or an Amos matching up with him. Maybe you do 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.720 have Devandry Campbell with some cloud coverage over him, with 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.880 the safety help. Those are all things you have to 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.040 think about. But as you mentioned, with the bracket looks, 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.360 that's where Samuel can hurt you. That's where these running 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.280 backs can hurt you. You can only have so much 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:31.480 attention devoted to one player. The Gire Alexander matching up thing, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.560 I'll believe it when I see it. It still hasn't 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.280 been a thing. They just like leaving him on his 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.760 spot and you basically take away that side of the field. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.040 It's the old Richard Sherman kind of project, right. That 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.719 being said, that is always something they have in the 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.839 back of their hand. I think Alexander could be an 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.679 elite star nickel slot corner this league. He just so 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:52.000 also happens to be an absolute demon as a boundary 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.160 corner as well, so all things Green Bay has to consider. 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.320 But but certainly, I think this is a big game 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.920 for coverage, Mike. I think this is where the cornerback, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.320 the linebackers, the safeties are going to earn their paychecks 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.880 because you just can't be guaranteed anything against this offense 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.360 in the way and how quickly they get that ball out. Yeah, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.319 and you mentioned the pass rush, and that'll that will 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.200 certainly be a key here as well. We saw how 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.040 things change so much first half to second half against 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.120 the Detroit Lions on Monday night as far as um 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.080 not only not only the pressure the Packers were able 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.640 to generate on Jared Goff, but but also the different 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.600 ways in which they were doing it. There were there 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.080 were there were more changeups, there were more surprises. It 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.800 wasn't it wasn't just the the standard looks, I guess, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.560 so to speak. So it'll be interesting to see how 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.040 many other how many other wrinkles and changeups do you 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.160 throw there. But again, as as you know, and as 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.520 I just mentioned with Kittle, if you send, if you 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.880 send a fifth rusher, right that, you know you're you're 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.960 you're one guy down in coverage. I mean, it's it's 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.520 a numbers game at the end of the day. It's 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.920 eleven on eleven. If you send, if you send a 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.920 fifth guy, you better make sure somebody gets home and 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.920 somebody speeds up the quarterbacks clock because you're down one 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:02.680 in the in the back end to try to take 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.920 away a potential big play. So this, this is really 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:11.280 this is really really an interesting game because because it 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.280 it feels like the forty Niners in a lot of 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.800 ways have already other than the running back situation, but 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.760 it feels like the forty Niners have already kind of 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.120 figured out who they are after going through all the 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.840 injuries they did last year. Now it feels like they 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.280 kind of have their band back together and and they're 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.760 back to be in those and the Packers with a 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.640 new defensive coordinator and they're working in a rookie first 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.640 round pick at cornerback. They've got two rookies on the 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.560 offensive line, some other questions up front, like we talked about, 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.840 the Packers are still trying to kind of figure things 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.400 out here, and uh and this is this is a 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.360 really really tough road match up here in Green Bay 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.560 for Green Bay in week three. Well, and just to 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.920 give some credit to these backs too, because as you mentioned, 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.200 there's a lot of scenarios. You saw this happen in 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.240 Baltimore where eighteen different running backs go down and they 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.160 had to make the moves that they did. What has 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.440 always impressed with San Francisco is they find these guys 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.640 and and you know, Matt Brita and Jeff Wilson and 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.000 obviously Raheem Moster was the one they sort of finally 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.040 settled on as their back. They run, so they run 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.400 so much misdirection and so much of the window dressing 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.600 and everything they get. They try to get defenses to 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.640 essentially focus on the wrong thing. They try to distract 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.800 your eyes, they try to get you looking in the 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.040 wrong spots and then all of a sudden, some running 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.000 back you've never heard of is slashing you for a 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.360 fifteen yard game and you're like, where did that come from? 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.120 It's like, well, it's because they they're really good at 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.520 the distraction game. They really are. So even though you 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.720 lose most are and then you have you know, whether 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.000 it's Trace Sermon is a guy that you know, I 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.400 think he's coming back out of the the concussion protocol. I believe, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.600 you know, you know, Ja Michael Hasty. I mean, they 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.520 have guys Mike that just you can't guarantee. You know, 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:50.960 there's so many times where it's like, okay, well they're 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.160 down three backs arounder the fourth guy that was elevated 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.120 off the practice squad, we feel pretty good about stopping 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.600 the run. You never feel that way against the forty Niners. No, 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.320 you don't. They're they're going to be able to throw 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:00.960 multiple looks at you, and they have guys that can 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.880 hurt you outside. It's a brilliant offensive scheme defensively, that 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:05.960 blueprint has been put out there for years now. What 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.000 they're looking to accomplish. Davante Adams even talked about it, 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.440 where you know they aren't gonna see probably as many 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.440 too high looks this week because those defenders are confident 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.440 with what packages they have that whatever they see, they're 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.160 going to be able to adjust to it. So it's 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:20.800 gonna be a great game. It's gonna be great Sunday 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.800 night football television. And certainly for Green Bays perspective, need 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.480 to go and get this win on the road here 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.720 because they're really looking at what for their next six 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.400 is gonna be um you know, taking place outside of Lambo. 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You obviously have the Packers playing 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.040 the forty Niners on the road. The Chicago Bears the 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.960 Justin Fields era, which we knew was inevitable, but it's 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.439 starting a little earlier than probably everyone thought. The Bears 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.080 will be on the road at Cleveland taking on a 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.040 Browns team that certainly feels like it should be too. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.679 And oh because they had the Kansas City Chiefs on 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.359 the ropes in Week one, but we're not able to 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:33.080 pull that game out. Baltimore is traveling to Detroit, and 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:37.679 Seattle is traveling to Minnesota. So after Week one, the 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.240 NFC North was a little bit of a laughing stock 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.480 with everybody losing. The division was oh and four. Okay, 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.199 so you've got the Niners, the Browns, the Ravens, and 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.720 the Seahawks as the divisions four opponents this week. If 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.720 the NFC North wants to make any kind of a 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.680