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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty Armstrong and Decide

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Speaker 1: and now he Armsdrong get it.

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Speaker 2: Live from studio scene season your a dimly lit room.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, here we go deep within the bowels of

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Speaker 2: the Armstrong You getting communications compound and a midweek Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: we're under the tutelage of our general manager.

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Speaker 1: Austrial and teen ages.

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Speaker 2: How come they've been banned from social media until the

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Speaker 2: age of sixteen?

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Speaker 1: I guess it's.

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Speaker 2: An interesting experiment in trying to protect kids from the

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Speaker 2: evils of the interwebs. That will give them plenty of

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Speaker 2: time to practice their diddos and right craft a shrimp

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Speaker 2: on the Barbie recipes pet they're koalas or whatever they

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Speaker 2: need to do and evade the killer snakes, insects, spiders,

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Speaker 2: sharks and koalas of Australia. Yeah, I look forward to

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Speaker 2: talking about that later and I look forward to seeing

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Speaker 2: how that experiment works. And maybe we ought to do

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Speaker 2: it here in the United States, or have some states

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Speaker 2: done it already? Now some stories states have done it

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Speaker 2: with porn already, where you have to do age identification.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know have we done that with social

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Speaker 2: media anywhere? And if not, why not. Yeah, it's pretty

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Speaker 2: easily evaded, I think. But you know, all these imperfect solutions,

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Speaker 2: maybe we layer them, We experiment, we see what works

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Speaker 2: and what doesn't, why it doesn't work. Got to try something.

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Speaker 2: The kids are getting ruined.

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Speaker 1: Certainly a variety of things.

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Speaker 2: A lot of things in my life I've not done

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Speaker 2: because they were against the law.

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Speaker 1: If you tell your.

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Speaker 2: Kids it's against the law to go on social media,

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Speaker 2: some kids anyway are not going to go on social

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Speaker 2: media because it's.

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Speaker 1: Against the law, right right.

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Speaker 2: Certainly could change these societ I had old calculus, which

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Speaker 2: is a fancy sounding sentence that means zig could work

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Speaker 2: some Our general manager could have been ma, ma, Is

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Speaker 2: that how we're gonna pronounce it? Ma wah as opposed

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Speaker 2: to maga or maha. Sounds like you're your dentist. Just

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Speaker 2: ask your question you're trying to answer. So, how's your

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Speaker 2: summer kids doing well in school?

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Speaker 1: Ma?

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Speaker 2: Make America affordable again? Ma ma, that's the new slogan,

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Speaker 2: and I'm a little pronunciation. We'll play from clips from

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Speaker 2: uh Trump's ninety minute Riley last night.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to.

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Speaker 2: If Jesus returns, hey wrap it up at like forty

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Speaker 2: five minutes, two hours, come on, I don't know who

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Speaker 2: wants to hear anybody talk that long.

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Speaker 1: But we'll play some clips from that a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: But uh, And he's going to go across the country

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Speaker 2: at these rallies, you know, trying to talk up economic success,

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Speaker 2: and he thinks the messaging is bad. Is why the

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Speaker 2: poll numbers are where they are on people's attitudes about

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Speaker 2: the economy. Remind people that, hey, gas prices are dang

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Speaker 2: danglan they are, and all that sort of stuff. But

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Speaker 2: the interest rate situation today, so they're almost certainly going

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Speaker 2: to cut interest rates today. But of the twelve member

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Speaker 2: panel of the Fed that do the voting, it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a split vote they think, as opposed to

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Speaker 2: a unanimous vote. And the no votes are worried that

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Speaker 2: because inflation this last month was actually higher than a

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Speaker 2: year ago, and they're worried inflation is going to go

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Speaker 2: up if we do another interest rate cut. That and

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Speaker 2: so I'm not jazzed about this interest rate cut because

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Speaker 2: I'm more worried about inflation than a quarter a point

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Speaker 1: Right, I would agree, I would agree things.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how many speeches it will take

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Speaker 2: people's pocket books. There's my kitchen table issues. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you have to bat like a sheep.

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Speaker 1: A sheep? Is that what that sounded like to you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it sounded like to you, Katie, a goat.

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Speaker 1: I'm just being difficulty slicing it kind of in there.

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Speaker 1: It sounded stupid, it's ungulate.

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Speaker 2: What's the what's that broad category of animals that includes

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Speaker 1: I think you're right there.

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Speaker 2: I should know that, as I've had many, many, many,

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Speaker 2: many many of them around.

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Speaker 1: Me in my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, heck, you're the goat of goats for your county.

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Speaker 2: As I was starting to say, though, I get how

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Speaker 2: counterbalancing the utter unfairness of the media is a pretty

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Speaker 2: good strategy for the Trump administration. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 2: effective it'll be. And again, his in incredible self indulgence.

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Speaker 2: You got to tighten it up. Two hours of rambling

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Speaker 1: Well, it's worked pretty well for him for decade or

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Speaker 1: so now.

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Speaker 2: But the interest rate cut, though, if if the if

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Speaker 2: the there are more yes votes and no votes on

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Speaker 2: cutting the interest rate, and I hope the s votes

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Speaker 2: are right because if if inflation, like if we're doing

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Speaker 2: a dance here with inflation and an interest rate cutting

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Speaker 2: causes to go up, Ain't no amount of rallies talking

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Speaker 2: about affordability gonna make any difference if inflation comes back

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Speaker 2: to where it's like noticeable, right, absolutely true, whole, especially

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Speaker 2: because for the empteenth time, inflation is like interest compounding.

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Speaker 2: Your the year three percent more than the inflated number

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Speaker 2: percent more of that extra.

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Speaker 1: Inflated number, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Henry and I went to black Bear Downer last night,

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Speaker 2: a low priced little diner chain diner in California, and uh,

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Speaker 2: he had pancakes with bacon, and I had the same

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Speaker 2: thing I always get every single time I go. Chicken

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Speaker 2: fried steak, hash browns, two eggs over easy with sweet toast.

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Speaker 1: But oh, yes, that's a good meal.

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Speaker 2: I get the small but oh they have sizes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they have regular, interesting and I get some there's forty

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Speaker 2: four dollars chimney, forty four dollars. Holy cowch you order

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Speaker 2: a nice bottle of cab along with your chick water.

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Speaker 1: We drink waters. And I mean, I gotta believe most

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Speaker 2: That every single time you get it with a grocery

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Speaker 2: was forty four dollars for a couple of pancakes, bacon,

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Speaker 2: and you know, a breakfast for two crazy. Yeah, So

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Speaker 2: it'll take a while to turn that around. And if

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Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Good, all right, agreed. I help them.

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Speaker 2: Feds know what they're doing. How much political pressure you

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Too late, so stupid like talking to a chair. Ah,

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Speaker 2: they're certainly aware of it.

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Speaker 1: God, I wouldn't think you'd cared all.

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Speaker 2: A lot of these guys are bank presidents and then

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Speaker 2: all kinds of very successful people and be like whatever,

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows who I am. I'm voting this way, you don't.

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Speaker 2: I got to leave the FED and go back to

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Speaker 2: my life, which was perfectly fine before. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: know that that ring's true to me too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I'm just fed up with the whole thing. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: what life? Was that a cry for help? No? No,

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Speaker 2: I think that was a cry for help. No, I

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Speaker 2: couldn't be better.

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Speaker 2: Just the political scene. It's just it's liars and morons

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Speaker 2: yelling at each other. It's just not entertaining after a while. Well. No,

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Speaker 2: but the economy is for real, and I just tell

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Speaker 2: the people pulling the levers to pull the right levers,

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Speaker 2: until it needs to be pulled. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: many idea what's right? Leave the levers exactly?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: They just watching an economist and of course they're alla

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Speaker 2: for housing buying and selling homes, very little movement between

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Speaker 2: people's attitudes and the fact that people are still stuck

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Speaker 1: I heard somebody talking the other day, a reporter on.

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Speaker 2: A podcast, how she's got a I think she said

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Speaker 2: a one percent loan.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know anybody got them that low. We have

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Speaker 1: a pretty low one in our house. Uh.

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Speaker 2: And that I can't imagine ever leaving right, because how

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Speaker 2: you gonna you know, we all know the math doesn't

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Speaker 2: work on that. You can decide I'm gonna downsize by

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Speaker 2: half and you're still gonna end up with a higher.

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Speaker 1: Payment when you leave your current loan situation. Exactly.

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Speaker 2: I've been looking at this and thinking about this for

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Speaker 2: years now, and the only thing that shakes people loose

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Speaker 2: is major life change. Have to be transferred to a

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Speaker 2: different city, or you're you're no longer north of the dirt.

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Speaker 2: I mean major life change. That's a major life change.

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Speaker 2: We got married, we had a kid. Sometimes, uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy, unprecedented, you know. Let's start the show officially.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember the opening clip is so that's exciting.

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Speaker 2: Ma I need to learn how to say that. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this It is Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: November the tenth, the year twenty twenty five, where Armstrong,

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Speaker 2: Getty and we approved of this program. Let's begin that officially.

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Speaker 2: According to FCC rules, the Rags here comes the show.

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Speaker 3: At Mark Manhattan, Federal Judge Paul Engelmeyer approved the release

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Speaker 3: of all sealed grand jury transcripts and evidence related to

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Speaker 3: the indictment and eventual conviction of Glei Maxwell. He warns

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Speaker 3: anyone hoping for new bombshells will be disappointed.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So the judge who yesterday said I'm going to

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Speaker 2: release all the Maxwell stuff said I've looked at it.

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Speaker 1: There ain't nothing there. Yeah, don't get all excited, and

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Speaker 1: did lead the news with it. Wow. Yeah, I know, shocking, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was just reminded that today is the tenth So

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Speaker 2: my son has a shift at the Christmas Tree lot tonight.

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Speaker 2: My youngest in Boy Scouts, So the Boy Scout Christmas

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Speaker 2: Tree Lot. We have to work a couple of two

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Speaker 2: hours ships. This is part of our duty and that'll

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Speaker 2: be fun tonight. I think I get to use a chainsaw,

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Speaker 2: which is very exciting. But oh wow, uh, like, can

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Speaker 2: I just throw.

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Speaker 1: You in there with her? You ever used a chainsaw before?

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Speaker 1: You just have go ahead? And then next thing I

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Speaker 1: know him? What's the American spirit?

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Speaker 2: You remember our favorite mountain Christmas Tree lot way back

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Speaker 2: in the day. I showed up with my chainsaw as

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Speaker 2: usual one the year and they said, I'm sorry, you

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Speaker 2: can't use that. Our insurance liability coverage won't permit it anymore.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: But this lot is uh, they're already choped down. It's

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Speaker 2: just still like, so I chased the guy around the lot.

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Speaker 1: With my chainsaw. I don't give you a liability.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you were wearing a hockey mask because it's

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Speaker 2: summertime winter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in case hockey game breaks out right, people freaked

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Speaker 1: out right. So we got Katie's headlines.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so memory Yeah, and at Christmas time of all time, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got Katie's headlines. More news of the day, what

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Speaker 2: they're doing on Australia and what we think of that.

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Speaker 1: I got a what was I had a story about.

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Speaker 2: So all representive Nancy Mace of South Carolina went nutso

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Speaker 2: on some TSA cops and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Like that at the airport. The other day. I got

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Speaker 2: Let's figure out who's reporting what it's the lead story

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Speaker 5: Of course, the boat strike remains at the top. So

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Speaker 5: From the New York Times, Trump says Americans are doing great,

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Speaker 2: For his handling with the attis, and then he truth

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Speaker 1: There has never been a president that has just worked

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Speaker 1: From the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 4: CEOs are all in on AI.

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Speaker 5: A new survey is showing that CEOs expect AI not

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Speaker 5: From ABC, Instagram gives users control of their algorithms and

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Speaker 1: That's what I want.

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Speaker 2: I want that with YouTube, I want it with Instagram,

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Speaker 1: It's not my only interest in life. Show me something else.

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Speaker 5: From the New York Post, door dash driver accused of

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Speaker 5: everybody has one these days. But the chick drops the bag,

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Speaker 5: Well she's a lunatic, Yeah, wondering if it was like

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Speaker 5: tip retaliation or something. Oh yeah, USA today, we need

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Speaker 5: A pig named six seven is pardoned, saved from being

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Speaker 1: It's a lot to hate there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, Miami does the pig partning and this year's

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Speaker 5: Study fines getting less than seven hours of sleep is

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Speaker 4: Ah, dang it, Ash, I'm legally dead.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I've shaved off a half dozen years of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not me.

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Speaker 5: And finally, the Babylon Bee special needs community demands that

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Speaker 2: Oh, he was upset over the weekend. He said, people

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Speaker 6: Any new law is set to take effect this week

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Speaker 2: And so this story is getting a tremendous amount of attention.

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Speaker 7: It's an Australia to social media ban for all children

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Speaker 7: under sixteen, the first of its kind, Australia's Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure they are.

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Speaker 2: The population of Australia is twenty seven million people, significantly

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and way more kangaroos.

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Speaker 8: State laws are sort of all over the map. Nebraska

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Speaker 2: Okay, so there's something I didn't know. So no, we're

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Speaker 2: He says he's under no illusions. The teenage social media

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Speaker 2: Last night somewhere in Australia, someone under eighteen got a

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Speaker 2: But he said the government expects compliance. This is the law.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely understand like how Facebook is social media.

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Speaker 2: How is that in what senses that social media that

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Speaker 2: mean everything.

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Speaker 5: Of these apps also have a messaging feature as well,

446
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Speaker 5: so you can contact users directly.

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Speaker 2: In Australia, many parents are on board. We are pretty

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Speaker 2: overjoyed about it, said Staff, a high school teacher in

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Speaker 2: rural Victoria who has two children. He started a group

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Speaker 2: that encourages parents to delay giving young people smartphones. On

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Speaker 2: it goes so now, I think would be a perfectly

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Speaker 2: appropriate time to my point of a second or two ago.

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Speaker 2: This is a doctor by the name of Victoria Dunkley

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about well. I think she explains herself pretty

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Speaker 2: well in thirty three Michael.

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Speaker 9: No matter what they come in with, whether it's depression, anxiety,

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Speaker 9: ADHD or whatever their complaints are, the first thing we

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Speaker 9: do is just take them off all screens for four

459
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Speaker 9: weeks and then see what's left. So their symptoms might

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Speaker 9: disappear completely. Other kids, you know there are symptoms might

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Speaker 9: be cut down and they still might have a diagnosis,

462
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Speaker 9: but they are functioning much better, and a lot of

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Speaker 9: times we can get away with not using medication, especially

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Speaker 9: for younger kids. You can see results really within a

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Speaker 9: few days.

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Speaker 1: But even with teams physically change.

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Speaker 9: Yes, they start going to bed earlier, their mood is better.

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Speaker 9: Parents report that they are more engaged, they come out

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Speaker 9: of the room more, they're happier. So a lot of

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Speaker 9: these symptoms that look like they have ADHD or anxiety

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Speaker 9: or depression go away completely.

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Speaker 2: That is highly, highly troubling, it is, and yet it

473
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Speaker 2: is in a way good news. It's like we've figured

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Speaker 2: out why kids are dying of polio, and now we've

475
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Speaker 2: just got.

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Speaker 1: To come up with a vaccine, for instance.

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Speaker 2: And I harken back to a story we were talking

478
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Speaker 2: about yesterday when we were discussing education in general and

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Speaker 2: how miserably failing it is in the United States. Government

480
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Speaker 2: schools ought to be torn down to the studs. Anyway,

481
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Speaker 2: this study that showed the more time students spent on

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Speaker 2: screens at school, the further their scores fell, and from

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Speaker 2: zero hours a day to one minute to one hour,

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Speaker 2: one to two hours, two to four hours, four to

485
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Speaker 2: six hours, six hours, et cetera. This is at school

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Speaker 2: schools that used high tech educational tools, and it.

487
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Speaker 1: Is absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Uniformly clear the more screen time, the lower the scores.

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Speaker 2: Here's the graph in math, here's the graph in science.

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Speaker 2: Here's the reading scores. They're all exactly the same. And

491
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Speaker 2: they describe, as we mentioned yesterday, that the kids just

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Speaker 2: don't focus this. It's like they're watching a really boring

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Speaker 2: YouTube video and they're they're not into it.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they don't get any work done.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if it matters what you're watching on the

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Speaker 2: screen though, as opposed to just calling anything on a

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Speaker 2: screen screen time. Because I watched a lot of TV

498
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Speaker 2: in my life, my ability to pay attention didn't go away.

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Speaker 2: Like when I was twenty five years old and I

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Speaker 2: was watching lots of TV, I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: It didn't. It didn't affect my ability to read a book.

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Speaker 1: The stuff I do.

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Speaker 2: Now looking at a screen does affect my lady to

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Speaker 2: read a book. There's something different. Uh, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Some of the science behind this is crazy interesting. They

506
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Speaker 2: mentioned that when you read a real book, a physical

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Speaker 2: book of read from paper, each word occupies a fixed

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Speaker 2: physical location. They say, if you're reading a punt out

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Speaker 2: of this piece right now, this sentence exists right here,

510
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Speaker 2: and this spatial position becomes part of the memory.

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Speaker 1: You're forming.

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Speaker 2: This is why readers often remember where in a book

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Speaker 2: an idea appeared, even if they couldn't recall the exact wording.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you know, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the things I don't like about the

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Speaker 2: kindle experience. I don't have that as well. Uh, remembering

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Speaker 2: where in a book to find something. Yeah, when I

518
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Speaker 2: read this, it was like a light bulb going on

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Speaker 2: in my head, because it's absolutely true. If I am

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Speaker 2: trying to remember an idea or a specific quote or

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Speaker 2: a dramatic passage of a book, I can see physically

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Speaker 2: where it is in the thickness of the book roughly

523
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Speaker 2: and where that stuff was on the page. It had

524
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Speaker 2: never even dawned on me that that was part of

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Speaker 2: the memory, but it's clearly true.

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Speaker 1: There's more on this in a moment or two.

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Speaker 2: Unless you force people, there's no way you're gonna bring

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Speaker 2: back paper books. And we need to force them, Jack,

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Speaker 2: We need to force people to read physical books so

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Speaker 2: we don't lose our freedom. A word from our friends

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Speaker 1: this conversation you need to discuss.

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Speaker 2: Realistic attempts to change things back or maybe I'm wrong,

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you can make crazy, violent, sweeping changes if

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Speaker 2: the laws are strict enough, rules are stricted off. This

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Speaker 2: is the disagreement we have. It's not a disagreement, it's

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Speaker 2: just a different difference in point of view every time

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Speaker 2: we talk about this stuff. I'm just I just care

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Speaker 2: about individuals, about myself and people I care about, and

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Speaker 2: people listening right now, societal change is so beyond anything

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Speaker 2: I can accomplish. I just you're right about your pessimism

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent, right. I just think since I can't

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Speaker 2: accomplish that, I'm going to try to accomplish this. I mean,

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Speaker 2: could you ever I could see this happening. I could

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Speaker 2: see us deciding that getting a smartphone.

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Speaker 1: Before you're eighteen is just a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: And my kids, my especially my oldest, wouldn't need a

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Speaker 2: smartphone if all his friends didn't have a smartphone, your kid,

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Speaker 2: if all your if your kid's friends have a smartphone

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Speaker 2: and they don't it's it's a great disadvantage.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, I understand that. Yeah, but if.

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Speaker 2: None of them had it, I mean we all lived

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Speaker 2: without them. Fine, we figured out a way where to

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Speaker 2: meet Friday night at seven o'clock. Somehow we got the

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Speaker 2: word out. Yeah, yeah, agreed. It would become like you know,

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Speaker 2: you'd hear your your neighbor gave your kid bottle of

582
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Speaker 2: whiskey and the keys to the car.

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Speaker 1: You think they're insane.

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Speaker 2: It could happen so societally, I'm not optimistic. But so anyway,

585
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Speaker 2: back to the science of this stuff, which is so interesting.

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Speaker 2: You remember where in a book an idea appeared, even

587
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Speaker 2: if you can't recall the exact wording, But digital text

588
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Speaker 2: has no such stability. If you're scrolling through the piece

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Speaker 2: that I'm reading right now from on a computer phone,

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Speaker 2: the sentence first appeared at the bottom, Now it's near

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Speaker 2: the middle, a little soon vanish out of the top,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. And with no fixed location for ideas to

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Speaker 2: attach to a spatial scaffold that supports memory collapses. As

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Speaker 2: a result, reading from screens often triggers an unconscious shift

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Speaker 2: from deep comprehension to shallow skimming, which they can see

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Speaker 2: with scientific methods of watching your eyeballs, which is glancing, scrolling,

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Speaker 2: and extracting instead of truly reading, and they illustrate it visually.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe this. Are you arguing

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Speaker 1: with science? Well?

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Speaker 2: I know, specifically, I could call her if I wanted

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Speaker 2: to a neuros scientist with a PhD who claims the

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Speaker 2: science says there's no difference between reading on a reading

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Speaker 2: a kindle book or reading a regular book and the

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Speaker 2: way you take in the information and absorb it. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean they're right, but I just intuitively I believe that.

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Speaker 2: Certainly I could, like I said, I recognize the part

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Speaker 2: of I don't remember wearing a.

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Speaker 1: Book, so that's something. But I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I've read a lot of books both ways, and I

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Speaker 2: just don't know if I feel like I'm getting a

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Speaker 2: lesser experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They cite the fact that this exam, the PISA exam,

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Speaker 2: what is that it's an acronym. Clearly okay, so reading

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Speaker 2: Comprehension exam. The scores dropped so sharply after the test

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Speaker 2: moved online, and it's why the SAT when it went

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Speaker 2: digital in twenty twenty four quietly redefined reading comprehension altogether. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting as I'm arguing this because, like

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Speaker 2: much to our executive producer Mike Hanson's dismay, I like

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Speaker 2: everything printed out on paper.

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Speaker 1: I don't like going to a screen to get all

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Speaker 1: of our show stuff. I hate it.

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Speaker 2: I hate looking at a screen and having it there.

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Speaker 2: I just like it physically, knowing where it is and

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Speaker 2: organizing it that way. It's easier for me to organize

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Speaker 2: in my mind physically than you know, something on a

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Speaker 2: computer screen. So I don't know, no, no, And I'm

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Speaker 2: all for science digging into this stuff. And heck you

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Speaker 2: think it's a it's an understanding you. Okay, you need

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Speaker 2: to take a break. Mail bag coming up in moments.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, stay tuned. Yeah, we'll talk more about this later.

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Speaker 1: But if you wonder if.

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Speaker 2: Your kid's addicted to a phone, if they have a phone,

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Speaker 2: take it away from them for a while and see

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Speaker 2: how they act. That's classic addiction behavior. Aha, my boothe

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Speaker 2: my mad like my phone even five minutes. Yeah maybe,

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Speaker 2: all right, more on this to come. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: to say. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day.

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Speaker 2: It's a little longish.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get to mailbag next hour.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Uh, it's Joe Raffiti wrote this. He's

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Speaker 2: an academic of some sort. But I absolutely love this.

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Speaker 2: And I can't remember if I've read this before, but

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Speaker 2: if I did, it's in the wrong file.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear it again.

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Speaker 2: Socialists perform compassion, capitalists live it. That probably sounds insane

648
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Speaker 2: to people who've been in doctor Nadan to believe that

649
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Speaker 2: caring means redistributing wealth by force.

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Speaker 1: But here's the reality.

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Speaker 2: Capitalism requires you to care about other people's needs. It

652
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Speaker 2: asks of you, what problems can I solve? What value

653
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Speaker 2: can I create? What do people actually want and need?

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Speaker 2: Your success is directly tied to how well you serve others.

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Speaker 2: You can't force people to buy from you, you can't

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Speaker 2: coerce them into using your product or service.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the problem is socialism sort of promises there

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Speaker 2: won't be losers. Capitalism sort of guarantees there will be

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Speaker 2: winners and losers. Yeah, Socialism is a is a philosophy

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Speaker 2: for children and those who have yet to grow up

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Speaker 2: and recognize the way.

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Speaker 1: Human beings really are.

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Speaker 2: Mail Bag drops note mail bag at Armstrong and giddy

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Speaker 2: dot com Ah, Aaron Wright's Colonial is a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Look at this. There are thousands of videos from various

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Speaker 2: s whole countries where young men are exhuming old graves

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Speaker 2: for clicks and Facebook reels.

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Speaker 1: This must stop.

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Speaker 2: Oh my Internet viral ghoulishness tagging up graves. I hadn't

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Speaker 2: heard this, messing with the bones whatever.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's the worst thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. I got to look into that.

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Speaker 2: Let's see non binary WTF Alonymous wrikes. A friend of

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Speaker 2: mine was purchasing a gun and filling out the federal

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Speaker 2: background check. You noticed that for gender they had three

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Speaker 2: to weed out anyone who checks non binary, because if

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Speaker 2: chance in hell you used to be allowed to buy

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Speaker 1: Tell Trump to fix this. I will talk to him.

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Speaker 1: Tell Trump to fix this. Well To I saved this one.

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Speaker 1: I got this a couple of days ago. To I

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Speaker 2: JT and Livermore says, I'm not against the notion of

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Speaker 2: ap doom metric. That's your percentage you think AI will

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Speaker 2: doom humanity, he says, but I also want to pair

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Speaker 2: it with the P salvation number. Sure, a superintelligence would

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Speaker 2: be something new and unproven, could go paar shape for mankind.

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Speaker 2: But it isn't as if we're one hundred percent shape

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Speaker 2: shape safe if AGI is never built. Look at all

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Speaker 2: the great threats that might happen if we never built

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Speaker 2: the AGI nukes in all their forms, bioweapons, super volcano eruptions,

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Speaker 2: economic collapse, climate apocalypse, smad Mark Zuckerberg, Democrat policies, sex robots,

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Speaker 2: good list. Maybe having an AGI is the only way

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Speaker 2: to deal with some or all of the pending disasters.

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Speaker 2: So when you tell me your p DO number P

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Speaker 2: doom number, also tell me the percentage likelihood that an

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Speaker 2: AGI would be necessary to solve protect us from things

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Speaker 2: really interesting. Let's see we got thirty seconds. Oh dang,

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Speaker 2: listener sleep listen, Danville. Maybe next hour I'll squeeze that

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Speaker 2: the baby is where's the baby gonna get the appatitis.

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Speaker 1: Is it going to a whorehouse? No, it's not. It's

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Speaker 1: a baby. It's right here. It's been an odd thing

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot more an hour two if you

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Speaker 2: miss a segment, or an hour gets the podcast Armstrong

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