1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: Welcome into lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the pleasure 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: of sitting down with wide receiver Malik Cunningham and Milik 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: I know these mini camp. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Practice are taxing. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: How much more taxing is practice as a wide receiver 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: versus quarterback? 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: Man, it's like night and day, way more running, more thinking. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I feel like the thinking level is 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 4: probably on the same, but I'm going to receiver, so 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 4: I still got to think a lot, yeah, like why 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 4: to play going, how to come out of a route 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 4: or what defense there in So it's been a lot yeah. 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean the transition that you're making and 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: have made really is incredible. 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: I mean it's just that's that's pretty rare. 16 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Just how do you feel like it's going going from 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: quarterback to wide receiver? 18 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 4: Now, it's been going good. It's all, at the end 19 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 4: of the day, is all the mindset. So if my 20 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: mind's right, I feel like go out there and do it, 21 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: and I want to be out there so my body 22 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 4: everything is all together. 23 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 3: So it's going to let me be able to play. 24 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: Free and be who I am when you go out 25 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: there and not really halfway in. I want to do it, 26 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 4: not going to be your best and that could cause 27 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: problems for the team. 28 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 5: So you mentioned the mental piece of it. How big 29 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 5: of it is a learning curve at this stage of 30 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 5: the game. I mean you're learning a new position at 31 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 5: the NFL level, Like we're not talking here the high 32 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 5: school football, Like you're learning a new position at the 33 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 5: NFL level. 34 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 6: How big of a learning curve is it? 35 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like that's where it goes back 36 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: to the quarterback and me and learning the plays because 37 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: kind of I mean, the offense they throwing a lot 38 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: of stuff at us, but if you get a good 39 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: grasp of what's like, what's the common gover the offense, 40 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: you have a pretty good outlook at what to do 41 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 4: and how to do it. So I feel like that's 42 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: why I took advantage of just being a quarterback and 43 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: going to a position and just knowing everybody has to 44 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: do so just say we all in the play and 45 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: the X might not know what to do. I can 46 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: be able to be there to help them, and that's 47 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: been a plus for us. 48 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 5: When a play is called, do you think of it 49 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 5: from a quarterback perspective? At this point where you're kind 50 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 5: of thinking protection, you're thinking here's what every route is, 51 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: or are you thinking of it from a receiver standpoint? 52 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 5: Like I got to believe that transition is probably hard. 53 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 5: It's kind of like if you're speaking a different lange, 54 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 5: which you know, like, how do how do you see 55 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 5: a play once a play is called? 56 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: Honestly, how I see it? 57 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 4: Like when I'm in a huddle a straight receiver, So 58 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: I'm here in the call like it's day. I'm here 59 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 4: in the call. When I get out to my spot, 60 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 4: that's when a quarterback come in. It's like, oh, okay, 61 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 4: I see the coverage. Okay, they're gonna do this, So 62 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: I already know if the quarterback gonna change. 63 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: It or keep the play on. So just just. 64 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: Getting ahead of like I don't know it's a quarterback 65 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 4: in me, just seeing it out there. 66 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Do you feel like, I mean, it's a big advantage 67 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: for you. 68 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 4: It is, for sure, because I already know, like before 69 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 4: they know it. I mean, sometimes our defense the sky 70 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: is really good. So but you see it so much 71 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: each and every day. We've been going against him for 72 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: the last three weeks, so I mean you kind of 73 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 4: know what they're gonna do now. 74 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you tell me a little bit about how 75 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: the process went of deciding all right, we're gonna focus 76 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: on wide receiver now, was that you going the coaches 77 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: or how did it all go down? 78 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: No, coach. 79 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: They actually came to me like two weeks before, a 80 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 4: week before the draft, and then they just start there 81 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: was like, uh, I want to see you work in 82 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: the slot. But at first I looked at it as like, 83 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: dang man, I want to be a quarterback. But at 84 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: the same time, well, do his best for the team. 85 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 4: And that's how I looked at it. And so I 86 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: was like, hey, I can make plays for for the 87 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: quarterbacks out there when to get the ball in space. 88 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: So I looked at it as a plus, not as 89 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: a feel. 90 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: But that's got to be you know, when you've played 91 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: quarterback for so long, it is a little bit of 92 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: a yeah. 93 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: It's kind of like what's the word, Like I believe 94 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: myself and my ability, Like, yeah, I can play quarterback, 95 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: but that's not what they need me to do right now. 96 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: They need me to do something else. 97 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: So I'm the type of guy whatever it tastes for 98 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: a team to win, that tough guy am And do. 99 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: You feel like, all right, I'm done with quarterback? Forever 100 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: or like I could go back at some point if 101 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: another team. 102 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: One thing about a quarterback, I always said, well, some 103 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: of the old heads always tell me like once you 104 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: go to another position, you never lose it, So like never, 105 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: I would never lose my spiral. One to coach somebody 106 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: that don't never lose your spiral no matter what. Back 107 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: in the day, they've been told me that. And then 108 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: now when I got here, they told me that don't 109 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: lose your spoder because you never know what might happen, 110 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: Like Kay play for sure too early. 111 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 6: Though, I'm curious to go back to that conversation before 112 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 6: the draft. 113 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: Who was it? 114 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 6: The culture was the coach Charbo was coach Slew. 115 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: The position coaches And then they asked me and then 116 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: I was like I took like one or two days 117 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: think on it, and I was like, yeah, I'm all 118 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: laying on. 119 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: It really, and so what was that? What was that 120 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 5: process of thinking about it? 121 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: Like it was I mean, it's kind of like what 122 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: I went through in New England kind of, but it 123 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 4: was like a little bit different because I kind of 124 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: knew like before it was like you're gonna do quarterback 125 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 4: a receiver over there. So now it's just straight receiver. 126 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 4: So a New England, I was doing both, but now 127 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: it's just straight receiver. So it's like they asked me 128 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: to do it. I'm like, okay, it's not the first 129 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: time I've heard it. Like, he's not like, oh man, 130 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 4: They'm gonna play quarterback no more. They want me to 131 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 4: try to evolve and help the team. So that's how 132 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 4: I looked at it. 133 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 5: There's been there's been some good examples of players who 134 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 5: have been college quarterbacks who transitioned to wide receiver. Cole 135 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 5: Ellman's probably at the top of the list, and you know, 136 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 5: Logan Thomas was a college quarterback tight end. Of course, 137 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 5: there's been a couple of guys. 138 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exact, said Steelers Anton Randall Lack in the day. 139 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, prior random Yeah, yeah, So there's been a number. 140 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: I said it was rare earlier now nameing like it 141 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: doesn't a lot now that I don't know. 142 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: I guess the technology is so crazy now and now 143 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: when I like go on social media or something, no, 144 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: I see his trick plays a quarterback. 145 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: The algorithm is crazy. 146 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 147 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 4: Like I'll be sitting at the house and me there 148 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: sh seeing some stuff and I'll be like, bro, like, 149 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: look at this like it's a trick play, like quarterback 150 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: from a quarterback to get to like it'd be crazy. 151 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 6: That's they said. 152 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 5: The algorithm is like super targeted. No, you can't get 153 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 5: much more targeted than the quarterbacks transition to watch super highlights. 154 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: It's crazy. I was like, bro, look at that. 155 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 6: That's crazy. Do you look at that? 156 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I guess you look at it when you 157 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 5: see that pop up on Instagram, But it's like, have 158 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 5: you even looked at those guys film or talked to 159 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 5: any of those guys about me when. 160 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: I was When I was in New England, me and 161 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: Julian had a couple of conversations, like we just talked 162 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: he's building a lot. 163 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: We just talked about a little bit. 164 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 4: But other than that, I mean, uh, Jacobe Myers, he 165 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: played quarterback in college and moved to receivers, so he. 166 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: Was still give me pointers every now and then. But 167 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: a couple of guys that reached out. 168 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: Cool, Okay, tell us about a little bit about the 169 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: decision to leave New England, how that all went down. 170 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: I remember when it went down, like there were so 171 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: many Patriots players who were like, like, you go get yours, 172 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: you know. 173 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: All this stuff. 174 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: It was like it was very I mean at this 175 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: level is all political about like what you can do now, 176 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: like not what you did in the past. And so 177 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: the route that was going on, we was losing. I 178 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 4: mean a practice, I was getting reaped to the quarterback. 179 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: But then in the game, I was it only got 180 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 4: like in a game like three four plays and we 181 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: played the Raiders, but like a practice, like all the 182 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 4: older guys wanted me to be in there, but it 183 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: was just like it was on the coach. So it 184 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: wasn't so now like when they've seen it happen. They 185 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 4: was all boosting up because they was like I should 186 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 4: have been out there, which I mean, which I know that, 187 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: and the coaches that was in the building they knew. 188 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: That too, but it was just higher ups that it 189 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: just didn't happen. 190 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: Interesting, So that must have been a hard thing for 191 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: you to grapple with. 192 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: I mean it was. 193 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: But at the same time, I was sitting back like 194 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 4: I was laughing out loud, but I'm laughing inside because 195 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 4: like I mean, we're two and ten, you still ain't 196 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 4: changed it yet. I mean, I'm here, I'm getting the 197 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: patriock every week. So I'm happy to be here. 198 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: So what was it like reuniting with Lamar? I mean 199 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: kind of Louisville. The Louisville connection is when when. 200 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: I first got here, it just felt like how was 201 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 4: my freshman year? Like college all over again? Like seeing 202 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: him and how you acting then the players, how all 203 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: the players grasped to him. It's just like night and day. Man, 204 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 205 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 6: That's cool. 206 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: So just to fill any viewers or listeners in on 207 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 5: your backstory, you know, I want to talk about that 208 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: a little bit. You played with Lamar in college at Louisville. 209 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 5: You were there together for one season, right, and you 210 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 5: also have the difficult task of following in his footsteps there, 211 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 5: which is you know, which is a high bar of course. 212 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 6: But what was it like like. 213 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 5: When you went to Louisville and Lamar Jackson was there 214 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: the year you got there was he was fresh off 215 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 5: the Heisman, right, So you're stepping into this environment you 216 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 5: have the Heisman Trophy winner there. What was that like 217 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 5: as a young kid stepping into a college environment? 218 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: Man, it was just like. 219 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: You know, like as a kid, like meeting your your 220 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: not your idol, because like he's only a couple of 221 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: years old than me, but like I looked at him 222 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: like how some kids looked at Michael Vick when they 223 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: was coming up. So like now that we were in 224 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: the room together, it was like, man, that's crazy. But 225 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: like where I'm from, not to many people make it, 226 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: like we had a couple people make it like the 227 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 4: Miko Ryans, like he made it, but like not too 228 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: many people made it, and like to see him make it, 229 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: and like where he come from and kind of like 230 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: the same story I had, but like not the same 231 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: type of story, but black quarterbacks coming in and not 232 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: really getting a chance and then him being able to 233 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: go to Louisville and do what he did. I'm like, man, 234 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: he only go be here one more year, so I'm 235 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: gonna go follow his footsteps and try to do the 236 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: same thing he did. 237 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 5: So you went to Louisville And was it in part 238 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 5: because Lamar Jackson was there? 239 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, that played a big like when he 240 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: like when I got to offer from Louisville, like when 241 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: Kentucky didn't Louisville, and like once I seen like he 242 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 4: gonna win, he won the Hotsman. I'm like, he only 243 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: got to do three years he's gonna do one more 244 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: year and he's gonna leave somebody. He's gonna go to 245 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: Louisville and be the quarterback at them. 246 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so like you said, that's a high bar. 247 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: The pressure is on. How did you handle that? 248 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: Oh Man? The first year, me and one quarterback? 249 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: Well, I got hurt in camp the year he left, 250 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: and it was me and one other quarterback and then 251 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: he played like the first three games, and no, that's 252 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: the year coach got fired. 253 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 3: So we went to in ten right when Lamarin. We 254 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 3: went to in ten. 255 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 4: Coaches got fired, so we got a whole new staff 256 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: come in the next the following year, the year after 257 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: I rest heard it, so I didn't get to play. 258 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 4: And so when a new coach came in, basically like 259 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: a new slate, and then the offense that was running 260 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 4: it fit the scheme that. 261 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: I was playing in the high school. So it was like 262 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: I have to be a quarterback in the system. And 263 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: it was on from there. 264 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 5: What was I'm curious, like, what was Lamar? We see 265 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 5: him here in this building, but when he was something 266 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 5: that I've heard many times and I think it's true 267 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 5: for him here, like he's had a lot of success. 268 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 5: He's been kind of at the top, but he hasn't 269 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 5: really changed. He treats people the same way, Like I'm 270 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 5: curious what it was like when like you step into 271 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 5: that environment and like, this is a. 272 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 6: Guy who's coming off. 273 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: You can't get much bigger than window the heist trophies 274 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 5: a college quarterback right. 275 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 4: In fact, well, I'm gonna tell you, like the first 276 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 4: the first time I ever met him, Like we was 277 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: talking on Twitter, this when Twitter was kind of being 278 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 4: like fifteen sixteen. So he had followed me, like when 279 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: I first got the offering, I followed him, and then 280 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if I wrote him and he wrote me, 281 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: but he wrote back like quick, and I was like, dang, 282 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: he wrote back, And so I went on a visit 283 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: and I first met him. We both literally had a 284 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: boot on both our left legs, but I think he 285 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: had turf toe. 286 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: If he won the high you had turf toe. 287 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And then I came up there and I missed 288 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: my ankle up and so I'm just like it was 289 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: just it's like hit off, like right there. I'm like, bro, 290 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 4: it's like it's like me but older. Like everything he 291 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: do like in college, I was doing it in high school. 292 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: Like now it's like it was just crazy. 293 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool. 294 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: Was there at any point during college or at any 295 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: point did you ever think maybe wide receiver would ultimately 296 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: be the route for you? 297 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: No? Yeah at all. 298 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: That's how I've seen what he did right like that 299 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: that was like set the foundation for not just me, 300 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: but just all the black quarterbacks like that was coming 301 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: up and like just seeing him do it at a 302 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 4: high level and he wasn't like no six five six 303 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: six I used to be back in the day like 304 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: he had six two sixty three, like playing backyard football 305 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: people miss. 306 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: So is it? 307 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: That makes me feel like it's got to be hard 308 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: to get to give up that dream, Like you're saying, 309 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: like black quarterbacks who some people feel like they're not 310 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback. 311 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: There's something else and for you. 312 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: To be like you know what, Okay, like maybe I 313 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: am something else that that kind of giving up that 314 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: to a degree has got to be top. 315 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: It just goes back to me just being like not stubborn. 316 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, like just what like I said, just want to 317 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: be doing best for the team, like do whatever I 318 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: can do, like be with my feeto. I can't be 319 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 4: thinking about, oh why they don't think I can't be 320 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: a quarterback. No, I just look at it different, like 321 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 4: maybe they see something else with me, maybe I need 322 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: to do this, or just like you said, like you 323 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: don't ee, I don't ever want to lose my spiral line. 324 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: I never know what might happen. So you're just staying ready. 325 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: Song got to be ready. And that's just the biggest thing. 326 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: And it all starts with like mentally, like you're not 327 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: mentally in the right space. You know, nobody else can 328 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: be able to do what I'm doing right now. You 329 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: got to be missing in the right space. 330 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: Well, what's so cool to me is like I mean, 331 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how many practices it's been exclusively a 332 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver, not many. And I you know, it was 333 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: like the first or second practice, I was like Leak's 334 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: catching a bunch of balls out here, Like it was 335 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: not a slow transitional It's gonna take a. 336 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: While, Like I mean, how have you been able to. 337 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: Make that transition so quickly and be out there making 338 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: plays against NFL athletes? 339 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: You know, I mean just honestly, like I'm just keep 340 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: it here, Like, well, I grew up at like a 341 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: lot of us, like we're just straight like ballers, like 342 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: just straight ball like whereas like coach needs to go 343 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: to receiver, Okay, I'm gonna do it, but still go 344 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: be a quarterback. 345 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: Like this is how I was grew how I grew up. 346 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: I play everything, so but when I got to middle school, 347 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: I went strictly quarterback. 348 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: But like I always been athletic. 349 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: But I really, like, honestly, I don't think Lamark can 350 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: go out there and do that, but I'm. 351 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 6: Doing right now. 352 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 4: I really don't think about a lot of people don't 353 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: think that, but he probably could. 354 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: We never know. But it's just like it's just that 355 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: just that in me, like I can do it, like 356 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: you can't. It ain't nobody nothing. 357 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: It ain't nothing that nobody can say to me that 358 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 4: I can't do it if I put my mind to that. 359 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: School very cool. 360 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 6: Have you always had good hands? 361 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been a quarterback. I mean I played safety 362 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: in little league. Though. 363 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 5: Okay, but you're catching like like quarterback, you catch that 364 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 5: you kiss about every play. 365 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: So but I know it's easy. It's not saying. 366 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: Like ball handling. 367 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I still gotta like still look at to mysorund 368 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: because like sweating in my eye, like that's one thing. 369 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: Like I sweat a lot, so now like now that 370 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: I'm running, I'm sweating. 371 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: And I saw I take wide receiver problems. 372 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: Well I got to see up in there when I 373 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 4: had the visor, did I can see? I'm like, no, 374 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: I got to tee that out. I couldn't be dropping nothing. 375 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: Did you at any point during your football career like 376 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: play wide receiver for an extended period of time. 377 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: Or like this is literally the first time this? 378 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, this is literally the first time. 379 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: Like and there are plays that there's never like lead. 380 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: I used to be one throwing because I had the 381 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 4: strongest arm, so I would throw it to my cousin. 382 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: He'll go back there. 383 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: Sometimes he'll switch it and he'll go to quarterback and 384 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: I go to receiver. And then it just depends on 385 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: the distance of the throwing a quarterback short, he going 386 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 4: to quarterback. 387 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: So it just been like I said, like we just 388 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: all hoopers growing up. 389 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: What's the process been like in the classroom, I mean 390 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: for you in the wide receiver room, Like I mean, 391 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: I know you talked about, you know, the routes from 392 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: your quarterback time, but still there's a lot of intrixies. 393 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: It's actually been that's been a plus for our room, 394 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 4: like me being in there and knowing like how Josh 395 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: and all the Lamar's thinking, like how all the quarterbacks 396 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 4: thinking because I was in there for a period of time. 397 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 4: So that's been a plus for us, Like helping like 398 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 4: some of the young guys asking questions because sometimes the 399 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: coaches really might not know because they're not in the rooms, 400 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: but they know the system, but like at the time 401 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: they might not know it. So just being an extra 402 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: hand for Gilu and p it's been good for the room. 403 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: That's really cool. How do you view this this competition? 404 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: I mean you're you're competing for roster spot now, yeah, 405 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean there's spots to be one. 406 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: No, it definitely is. 407 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 4: But in the day, like we all working for one 408 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: coming go and that's when Super Bowl. So I feel 409 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 4: like our room is not like, oh I'm only gonna 410 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: get mine lote, Like everybody's helping everybody, Like everybody's interchangeable, 411 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 4: Like you don't see too many's no egos in the room, 412 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: Like it's really every man is like for each other. 413 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: So that's good. 414 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: Cool. 415 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, where does that come from? 416 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 5: I mean, cause you guys are like the team goal 417 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 5: is is of course first and foremost, but like you're 418 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 5: all competing for roles, competing for spots, and you feel 419 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: like it gets kind of a unique perspective to take 420 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 5: that approach. 421 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you just gotta you can't put like 422 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 4: this like basic of all three of us receivers, I 423 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: gotta worry about me first before I can't worry about 424 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: y'all too, So I can't worry about, oh, what he's doing, 425 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: what he's doing, like what I. 426 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: Can't do that. 427 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: I worry myself first and then help others like that 428 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: need help that I see need help because some people 429 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 4: be scared to ask for hip, Like some rookies don't 430 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: ask for help, like last year, a couple of rookies 431 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 4: when I was a rookie, Like, we want to ask 432 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: for help unless like we needed it. But like other 433 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: than that, like we try to do it on our own, 434 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: but at this business, you can't. You're not gonna be 435 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: able to do it on your own. You're a rookie, 436 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: like you go to need help. 437 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 6: What did you take from your rookie season? 438 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 5: You know, three quarters up in New England and then 439 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 5: obviously the end of the season here in Baltimore. 440 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 4: I just don't take nothing for granted at all, because like, 441 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: as like I said, like it's bit changed, like you 442 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: could be in another team just like that. 443 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: Just how I was like, you never know, so just 444 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: just be with you. 445 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: You don't always be respectful, and then good things happen 446 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: to those type of people. 447 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: That's cool. 448 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: And last one for me is just what what is 449 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: the most difficult part of this transition for you? And 450 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: what is the part of it where you're like, yeah, 451 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: I can do this, Like like, is there has been 452 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: a play? 453 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: Has there been something the most google part? 454 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: I mean I wish I feel like every quarterback going 455 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: to receiver will say this is blocking. 456 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 6: Man, Really you don't too much blocking is a quarterback. 457 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 4: Bat I'm like not pretty boy, But like I'm not 458 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: getting touched at practice like to the game, so like 459 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: now it's like I got to get nasty, like I 460 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: gotta really, like like pretty bow up block somebody. 461 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: So it's like it's been different. 462 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: But the best part is, I mean, besides catching the ball, man, 463 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: just being out there with my teammates and having fun. 464 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: That's the biggest thing. Just having fun out there doing 465 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 4: it doing something I love. And yeah, just having fun. 466 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: I feel like I saw a play in practice today 467 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: where you were blocking Kyle van Noy. 468 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah about blocking. That's like that right there, Man, 469 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: I gotta block him. 470 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: Don't do it. I'm gonna try hard. Yeah he did. 471 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: He I ain't get I ain't get nowhere. 472 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 5: I want to go back to the point that you made, 473 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 5: cause I think it's really interesting just to hear your perspective. 474 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 5: Like we talk a lot of times about Lamar his 475 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 5: impact on kids, Like I remember there's a clip back 476 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 5: when twenty nineteen, his first year was just full started 477 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 5: here and coach Tarbo was talking to him on the 478 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 5: sidelines about there's gonna be kids wearing your jerseys all 479 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 5: over the place. Like the impact that you're having on 480 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 5: the game of football. You don't even fully see it yet, 481 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 5: And like hearing you is kind of interesting because even 482 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 5: like only you're just a little bit younger then, but 483 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 5: he still had an impact on. 484 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 6: You even before I knew it, Like I just it's 485 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 6: I just hear's see your's respective. 486 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: I think, like when I came in to see how 487 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 4: because I really didn't know, like everybody back home and 488 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 4: asking me, like you met him, I'm like no, like 489 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: I And then the first time went I met him 490 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 4: on my visit, I was with him the whole, like 491 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 4: most of the time besides like when we went out, 492 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 4: because he even didn't go out in college, like he 493 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: never went out. He still don't go out like to this, 494 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 4: but it was just the fact that just seeing like 495 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: how much of a people's person he is, like like 496 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: even when in. 497 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: The like you know, like how you take a person 498 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: like they're like. 499 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: If they think they better than everybody, or like just 500 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 4: too much because they probably won't respond or like like 501 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 4: he didn't have to respond they see what I'm saying, 502 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: but he reached out to me, and that's when I 503 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: knew like okay, like he sees something in me, or 504 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: like he's just a genuine person. 505 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: And when I finally met him, like he just another. 506 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: Meet but like I said, just older, like chill god, 507 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 4: like he don't do nothing, Like he make everybody laugh, 508 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: like he always want to have a good time. I 509 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 4: always putting a on somebody's face. So I try to 510 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 4: take that. And then like the leadership role, like just 511 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: being like he don't have to be vocal, like he vocal, 512 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: but like you know, you can't really tell but like 513 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: people gonna follow him just because like who he is 514 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 4: and like how he plays and how he works, Like 515 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: you want people like that to lead your team, and 516 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: that's what he does. 517 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 5: And how much of an impact do you think he'll 518 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 5: have on young black quarterbacks aspiring quarterbacks. I'm talking ten 519 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 5: eleven twelve year old kids out there. 520 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: Man's people sending a wound that just don't know that 521 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 4: he got an impact on them. 522 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: Like, I mean, that's a God given time. 523 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 4: Like too many people, lot, too many people like him 524 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 4: come down this earth and he's very down to the 525 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: earth fly. I feel like you go to him for anything, 526 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: like anything, he gonna be there for you. 527 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 528 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 5: Well, you know we've given Lamarro all this praise. However, 529 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 5: the point I want to bring up here lastly is 530 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty eight total touchdowns in college. It's 531 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 5: a Louisville record, and Lamar Jackson doesn't have it. Lily Cunningham, 532 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 5: there we go, sure, yeah, that need something for you. 533 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 6: To break that record? 534 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure, Like I would never forget that, 535 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 4: like even like to this day, like even though our 536 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 4: moved to receiver, like people will still tell me, like 537 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: you know you still got the record. 538 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, I know it that he got Hillo Records, 539 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 3: But I mean I'm good with that one for sure. 540 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: For his name to be right on to my I 541 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: like that one. Yeah for once. 542 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all sok Man. 543 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 6: This has been a pleasurereciate appreciate much. 544 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, thank you. 545 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 5: You're listening to the Lounge podcast. We're coming to you 546 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 5: from the Sea Geek Studio. Also, we want to give 547 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 5: a shout out to our friends at DraftKings Sportsbook. They 548 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 5: are an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens. 549 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 5: They've got a limited time offer running that you don't 550 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 5: want to miss. Download the Draft Kings Sportsbook at today. 551 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 5: Use the promo code flock. 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He kept saying he's like me, 560 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 6: but older. 561 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he's He's a really likeable guy, a friend 562 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 7: of the lounge, now another friend of the lounge, guy 563 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 7: to root for, and yeah, I mean it's it's a 564 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 7: fascinating story. 565 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 6: What he's doing. 566 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: And the fact that he's really his first time playing 567 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver and he's doing the NFL is pretty crazy. 568 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: And he's been practicing really well. 569 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this guy legitimately has a shot 570 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: to make the fifty three, if not the practice squad. 571 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: You know, I think that he's got a pretty good 572 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: shot because you go down this roster and you look 573 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: at wide receiver and how many locks are there, you know, 574 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: Zay Bateman, Nelly Tes, Yeah, and then it's kind of 575 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: open after that. Yeah, you know, I think Tyler Wallace 576 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: definitely has a good shot. Deonte Hardy, you know, is 577 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: definitely in the thick of that competition, and then Malik 578 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: and a handful of other guys, so he especially if 579 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: he does some work on special teams or whatever it is, 580 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: you know, and just the versatility he brings also is 581 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: another check in his favor. I think that he's somebody 582 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: to watch this summer. 583 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 5: Well, look, he was on the fifty three man roster 584 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 5: at the end of last season when the Raves much 585 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: of the AFC Championship. They had four quarterbacks and he 586 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 5: wasn't really providing anything a wide receiver at that point, 587 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 5: but they still liked the potential in him to bring 588 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: him on the fifty three at that point. So I 589 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 5: think that that gives you at least an indication that 590 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: the Ravens have a belief in his potential. 591 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: And well, yeah, but I mean that was before they 592 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: drafted Devin Leary, right, So that was like, Yeah, the 593 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: thought then was certainly, okay, well, Snoop is in the 594 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: final year, he might not be resigned potentially, and Malik 595 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: Cunningham could be the Snoop replacement. Yeah, and then they 596 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: they really like Devin Leary in the draft and did 597 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: a lot of homework on the draft eligible quarterbacks and 598 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: it was kind of up in the air, is Malik 599 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: which direction. 600 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: We want to go? 601 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: And by virtue of them calling him a couple weeks 602 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: before the draft, that was a good, I think a 603 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: wise organizational decision to be like, you know what, We're 604 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: not going to blindside you and draft a quarterback, and 605 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: that's how you find out, Hey, guess what, you're not 606 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: the number three quarterback anymore, right, And it's like, hey, 607 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: are you cool with this with transitioning this way because 608 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: they were thinking there's a decent chance we're going to 609 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback. Yeah. 610 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 5: And I like when I watch him at practice, he 611 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 5: does not look out of place to me at all. 612 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 5: He does not look to me like a quarterback trying 613 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: to figure out wide receiver. He looks like he looks 614 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 5: like a natural athlete. He catches the thing. To me, 615 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 5: that has really been impressive, Like he's he's a good athlete. 616 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 5: He put up a ton of yards on the ground 617 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 5: in college. It is a dual threat quarterback. So like 618 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 5: running with the ball and making those type of plays, 619 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 5: like that's not surprising. But the way he catches the 620 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 5: ball pretty fluidly and like runs the receiver routy with 621 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 5: relative ease, Like all that stuff to me is in 622 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 5: it just it has kind of surprised me, to be honest, 623 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 5: just seeing a guy who's making this this switch in 624 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 5: positions at this stage of his career and doing it 625 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 5: with a relative I'm not saying it's easy, but at 626 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 5: least it looks relatively easy to the over smooth, Yes, 627 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 5: very smooth to our eye. 628 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: And and he's even like you said, he's a baller, 629 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: and he's got quickness. I mean, he's just an athlete, right, 630 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: and and his quickness and ability to kind of shake 631 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: loose underneath, you know, like you said, they want him 632 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: to play slot receiver. And Devin Dubernet is not no 633 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: longer team, there is a role for kind of a 634 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: slot you know, guy coming across on jet sweeps, motioning, 635 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, getting doing some of that kind of more 636 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: unique crafty kind of plays, running some of that stuff. 637 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: Deontay Hardy can do some of that too, but we 638 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: haven't seen Deontay Hardy on the field yet. Yeah, and 639 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: so I think that there's certainly an opportunity to fill 640 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: that kind of gadget role and do some of that 641 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: work underneath, and Leak seems well suited for it. 642 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 5: Honestly, when you look at the receivers, like, that's not 643 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 5: Bateman's role, and I think is your traditional X receiver 644 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 5: Nelson Aguilar kind of similar role, that's not really his role. 645 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 5: I mean, Zay Flowers can do that, but he's been 646 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 5: he was an outsider. 647 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: Receiver, ply outside receivers. 648 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 5: But he was basically an outside receiver last year. I 649 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 5: don't he can do some of that stuffside if needed. 650 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: We want to get him out in space. 651 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 6: But I think that you're. 652 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 5: Looking for somebody in that slot role, and I think 653 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 5: that Malik Cunningham has the potential to be that guy 654 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 5: for the Ravens devotees Walker rookie, but he's a big 655 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 5: outside receiver as well, you know. 656 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: And certainly he can do uh slot work too, like 657 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: a Nelson Aguilar camp. 658 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: I mean he's he's to me a similar. 659 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: Kind of body type to Nelson Aguilar can run that 660 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: the slot fades and get over the top. I mean, 661 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: Malik Cunningham is not coming here to go beat people 662 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: over the top. That's Tess Walker's job is, you know, 663 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: He's working underneath kind of stuff. 664 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 665 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 5: I just he'll be fun to watch, I think in 666 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 5: uh in in preseason games and in training camp. 667 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 6: For sure. 668 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 5: I think that that that competition for really that sixth 669 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: receiver spot, that five to six six and then they've 670 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 5: kept seven in the past. 671 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 6: I don't know if I going to or not. 672 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 5: I don't think that's the case, but I think that 673 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 5: five to six range is going to be one of 674 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 5: the type battles of camp. 675 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: And I love his attitude really above you know all else, 676 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: Like you know, we got asked them multiple questions like 677 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: it's gotta be tough to give up quarterback and like, 678 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm just really I thought his mindset was really refreshing, 679 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm gonna do what's best for the team, 680 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: and hey, you can't be too stubborn, right, Like, there's 681 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: there's a difference between chasing your dreams and Lamar Jackson 682 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: has done that and he's stuck with it, even when 683 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: some people said, whatever, you should play wide receiver and 684 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: he said, nah, I ain't doing that and it worked 685 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: out for Lamar. But not everybody's Lamar Jackson, even though 686 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: you're you know, he's like a younger Lamar and he 687 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: broke his record and all that stuff, Like, not everybody 688 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: is Lamar Jackson and you have to be kind of 689 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: not stubborn and and and be selfless and all those things. 690 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: And I think that Malik has the right mindset about 691 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: all this. And you know, hey, maybe down whine he 692 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: does get back to quarterback, but for right now, this 693 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: is how he's gonna help the Ravens and he's he's 694 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: running with it. 695 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 7: Yeah. 696 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 5: I just think that he seems like a guy that 697 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 5: I love his attitude, I love talking with him and 698 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 5: getting to know him a little bit more. I think 699 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 5: that he's you're just seeing him around the building and 700 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 5: on the field, in the locker room. He's a guy 701 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 5: that that seems to have great relationships and in a 702 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 5: short amount of time, he's still close with Lamar Jackson 703 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 5: and so those two guys like Lamar around. 704 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an easy guy to get along with. 705 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, So it was great. 706 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 5: It was great talking with him and wish him the 707 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 5: best of luck. 708 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 6: Friend of LOUCH. 709 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 5: He's a friend of LOUCH, so as always, you can 710 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 5: email us at the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 711 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 5: Make sure you stay tuned hit subscribe to this podcast 712 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 5: also the Ravens Press Pass podcast. 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