1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Thing from My Heart Radio. People have different definitions of 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: what makes a star. Is it raw talent, beauty or 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: is it simply an ex factor, a certain ineffable quality. 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: Whatever it is, Mary Lou Henner has it, and she 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: has it in spades. Singer, dancer, actor, and wellness expert, 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: Hanner is a multitalented performer who is also simply a 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: joy to be around. She's like a Christmas tree and 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: lights up every room she's in. She's starred in over 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: a dozen films, seven Broadway shows, and two smash hits sitcoms. 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: She played Ava Evans Newton on Evening Shade alongside Bert Reynolds, 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: and perhaps most notably, Elaine Nardo on Taxi, a role 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: that earned her five Golden Globe nominations. Mary Lou Hanna 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: has also a New York Times bestselling author and recently 15 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: staged a one woman autobiographical show. It covered everything from 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: growing up in a large family in Chicago to her 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: preternaturalnemonic skills. Henna is one of about sixty people in 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: the world who can recall nearly every detail of her 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: life down to the exact day and date. It's so 20 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: funny because you know, I worked with Trump twice on 21 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: Celebrity Apprentice, but he used to start the reboard room 22 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: like Mary Lou if I took you to Vegas? Could 23 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: you cheat for me? Could you count the cards? Could 24 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: you let's go to Vegas. People. I'm sure people assume 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: that this skill you have, but it's yeah, it's just there. 26 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: It's weird. What do you call it? I call it 27 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: a gift. People sometimes call it a condition. It's not. 28 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: And that's why they changed the name. They used to 29 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: call it hyper tynesia, but then they thought that that 30 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: was like too weird a name, which it really is. 31 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: But it's not that they don't call it that anymore. 32 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: It's h SAM Highly Superior autobiographical Memory h SAM. And 33 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: it's funny you should mention that and my show because 34 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: I do a song about it in my show that 35 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: my brother wrote the lyrics too. So I'm going to wait, 36 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: don't tell me, no, no, you know what it's called. 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: It's you know the Peggy Lee song because I'm a woman. 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: You know that song? Okay, So I thought, because I 39 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: have h SAM, so this is what we decided. I'll 40 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: just do the first one packing them in and bucks count. 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: It was yeah. I was like, because excuse me, mr. 42 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: It was a very successful number and a very successful run, 43 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. They said it was the best 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: show they've done there in seven years. Well, let me 45 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: ask you this. You wrote a biography back in ninety four. 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: You've written ten books, I believe, including that book. But 47 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: when you do a one woman show, where do you start? Well, 48 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: you need an opening number that sort of grabs people 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: and sort of sets up the tone. And so I 50 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: I wanted everything to start of connect to something in 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: my life. And I was watching television and do you 52 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: know the Cold Border movie? Not Night and Day, the 53 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: other one that they that he did anyway, So all 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm flicking through channels and there it is, 55 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: and it's Elvis Costello singing Let's Misbehave, And I thought, oh, 56 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: that's the closing credits to Johnny Dangerously. I'm going to 57 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: sing that song as my opener and then tell a 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: story about Johnny Dangerously, but then say everything is connected, 59 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: and then I go into the song about my memory 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: because I wanted to set that up right away, because 61 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: I throw dates around a lot and then I talked 62 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: about my childhood, which was so unusual, so you know, 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: and I do a little whole tribute to growing up 64 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: in a dancing school. Well, yeah, what's funny. When I 65 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: think of you, I think of many things. You know, 66 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: when you do the show Taxi. You're someone who is 67 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: part of that elite group of people that I know 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: who were on ahead TV show back when tens of 69 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: millions of people were watching TV. But such a remarkable 70 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: group of people, all of whom went on to have this, 71 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, really heavy duty careers and everything in movies 72 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: and TV and theater and so forth. And how did 73 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: you get that job? Okay, this is a good story. 74 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: I believe that the key to your life is how 75 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: well you deal with Plan B, because so many Plan 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: B things you plan for Plan A and you think 77 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: this is how it's going to work out, and then 78 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden forget it. I've been flown out 79 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to do a screen test for a 80 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: movie called Blood Brothers. I auditioned for Robert Mulligan. The 81 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: guy was testing opposite. He didn't get the job, but 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: they kept me around because they had to find the guy. 83 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: And then they found him and it was Richard Gere, 84 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: whom I knew through the Grease family because when I 85 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: my first day in show business professionally, I was in 86 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: the First National Company of Greece and I walked into 87 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: that first rehearsal and it was Jeff Conaway playing Danny Zuko, 88 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: Jerry Zachs playing Knicki, Michael Lembeck playing Sonny, Judy Kay 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: playing Rizzo, Johnny Travolta playing Duty, and Richard gear rehearsing 90 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: for the London Company to play Danny Zuko. Anyway, so 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: Richard Knight crossed paths again because we ended up getting 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Austin Blood Brothers. So I came up to Los Angeles 93 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: and then I ended up staying because I had a 94 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: contract with CBS at the time, and they offered me 95 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: money every month to stay away from the other networks 96 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: while they found something for me holding holding deal. I 97 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: had a holding deal for a few years. Now, all 98 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, they're starting to audition for Taxi and 99 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: Joel Thirm he really liked me. They wanted a thirty 100 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: five year old Italian New Yorker because they wanted her 101 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: to have like a sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year old daughter 102 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: and because unmarried woman and Goodbye Girl, those were all 103 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: out then, so they like the mother daughter dynamic. But 104 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: Joel said, I'm telling you this is the girl. I was. 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: He said, this is the girl because she can hold 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: her own with somebody like a Judd Hirsch. She was 107 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: one of the guys, but you'd believe her having art aspirations, 108 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, this is the girl. So he 109 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: kept bringing me back with all these older actresses. But 110 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: in the meantime, my mom was dying in the hospital 111 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: in Chicago, so I would literally fly back and forth 112 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: and back and forth and back and forth. So what 113 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: happened was they really liked me, and at that point, 114 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: paper Chase was picked up for a season because Taxi 115 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: didn't have to do a pilot, so paper Chase was 116 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: picked up for a season, and they said, okay, she 117 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: tested higher than even John Houseman, we have to give 118 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: her a contract. And my agent said, well, there's this 119 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: other show, Taxi that you know, so we have to see. 120 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: So my agents were able to play one against the other. 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: And I really wanted to do Taxi because the idea 122 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: of doing a sitcom was more appealing to me because 123 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: it's like a stage play, you know. So Taxi said, well, 124 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: she's too young. We see this teenage girl with her 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: daughter boa blah blah blah blah. And they said, look, 126 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose her the paper Chase if you don't 127 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: do it. And so they said, okay, we'll do it. 128 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: She's a Laine. We'll give her two little kids. So 129 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: that's what they did. So how it was Houseman Paper 130 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: Chase And what was his name, Timothy something, Timothy Bottons. No, 131 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: he didn't do the TV show. Tim Bottoms did the movie. Yeah, 132 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: that was a good movie with Lindsey Wagner and everything. 133 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: John Houseman was a real character. At the rap party 134 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: for the pilot, he tried to French kissed me. I mean, 135 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: he was like one of those guys. Well you can 136 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: be canceled now I know. Oh my god, I've got 137 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: I mean I never had like I'm sure you have 138 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: a few stories who probably deserved to be canceled at 139 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: some point in your life. Actually, I was very protective 140 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: of myself. I've been the kind of girl that I 141 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: think most well whatever, I don't want to say. You know, 142 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: I had brothers, so I knew men are pigs, so 143 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: I was like, on the defense, I was paying attention 144 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: some of them. Are you know it's funny you say, 145 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: because in that casting holding deal, I went out to 146 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: l a I've told the story before, I think, but 147 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm there and Chris Guest's mother, Jane Guest, who I worshiped, 148 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: Gene Guest, was in charge of casting Loveliest Woman in 149 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: show She was one of the loveliest women in show business. 150 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: And if she really believed in you, she like, hung 151 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: in there with you. And she brings me into a 152 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: meeting and they put me on a holding deal because 153 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I did a pilot for them that fizzled, and they said, 154 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna sign this holding deal because we really believe 155 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: in you. We're gonna just keep throwing it against the 156 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: wall until something sticks. And then he says, we want 157 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: you to be the next Bill Bixby. I was like, wow, 158 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: that sounds great. Did you ever honored the deal? Did 159 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: you ever have to or did you get something else? 160 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: And I went to do a pilot and then I 161 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: did a TV movie for them. I did a couple 162 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: of things for them. This is obviously a billion years ago. 163 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: In the eighties and the early eighties, the one with 164 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: Stephanie Zimbolist. You were so good in that that was NBC. 165 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: Remember that, My god. Yeah, I could tell you the 166 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: day we met and how we met. What it was 167 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: May May the twenty two of it was a Wednesday, 168 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: and this is how we met. I knew Tuck, your roommate. 169 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: So Tuck and I went to dinner one time and 170 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: in Venice and right where you guys used to live. 171 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: So I went over to your house. And now we 172 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: are both. I'm in New York doing the junket for Perfect, 173 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: and I'm on a bunch of shows and I'm on 174 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: Live at five with Sue Simmons, remember yeah, and you're 175 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: and so you and I were both in the room, 176 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't see you because I didn't really know you. 177 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, you, I could feel you 178 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: over my show, this person over my left shoulder, and 179 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Susiman says, and coming up 180 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: next Alec Baldwin and later Mary lou Hanna, and it 181 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: was like we looked at each other and I went, 182 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. I was like, oh my gosh. And 183 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: you and I actually had lunch the day of the 184 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: big Perfect opening, and you were a hundred days Ober 185 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: that day and you showed me your coin. Yeah, I 186 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: have thirty six years now and fabrary, I'll have thirty 187 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: seven years and then unbelievable. It's incredible. And even last night, 188 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: I want to have a drake. Last night I thought, 189 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: let me just have a gigantic glass slurpea glass of 190 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: red wine. Tell me good, because I have horrible insomnia. 191 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: I've always had hard me with these kids. It's horrible. 192 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: You know. I wrote a book called I Refused to 193 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: Raise a Brat, and I wrote it with a brilliant 194 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: planalist because I had these two kids, and I listened. 195 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: Every time I listened to her, didn't the kids, it 196 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: was all good, and then when I didn't, it was like, okay, 197 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna bite me on the us at some point. 198 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: But it's so funny because having so many. I grew 199 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: up with six. You grew up with six. We had 200 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: the opposite of you guys, because it was two boys 201 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: and four girl, which is different, and the third third 202 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: I was third. We came up with this concept, the 203 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: concept of hamper, you know, because our houses were like 204 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: a big hamper. So now to this day, you could 205 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: have a beautiful silk blouse. But it's got a stain, 206 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: so you put a pin over it. That that's hamper. 207 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: You know, your glasses are broken, so you put a 208 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: pin in it. That's hamper. You know, you do you 209 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: put a paper clip, paper clip, your uniform had staples 210 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: in it or tape or something. You know. It's like 211 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: I remember growing up, our phone court was always like 212 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: so you had to like hold it. If you read 213 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: If you read my memoir, it opens up with how 214 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: my mother's bedroom was filled with plastic pails filled with laundry. 215 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: It was laund her bedroom. Her bedroom was a hamper. 216 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: But she had an ironing board at the foot of 217 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: her bed and an iron and she had like these 218 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: plastic hampers, these collapsible plastic things that were just and 219 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: they were like falling off of each other. I said, 220 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: if you, if you came to my house and you 221 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: didn't know better, you thought this was in an illegal 222 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: laundry thing that was running out of their house. My 223 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: mother used to do her lime tree on Tuesdays. It 224 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: was seven teen loads, you know, and she always had 225 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: like seventeen loads from all of us. Because when you 226 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: think about it, a house full of kids like that 227 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: the beginning of the pandemic. I was home. My boys 228 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: were here, my brother, his two children, my husband, we 229 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: were here. I never did more cooking and cleaning and 230 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: laundry and scrubbing grout in my life because I'm very 231 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, I like to be very organized. But we 232 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: had a rule that everybody. My wife hates it. She's 233 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: really angry with me that you're so meticulous that I'm 234 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: so crushed by an o c D at that level 235 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: with my kids, like I'm always cleaning my household, and 236 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: long with my wife was like, this is going to 237 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: kill you. Well, with kids, you gotta let it go. 238 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean because I was always and I was tested 239 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: for o c D because that was part of the 240 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: whole memory thing. They take blood, they do all kinds 241 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: of tests for you. I don't have o c D. 242 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: I call mine o c O obsessive compulsive order because 243 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: one kid in the family had to have it with 244 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: six kids, and my bedroom was off the kitchen and 245 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: had no door, so people could be on the phone 246 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: or at the kitchen table and look in at a 247 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: little girl sleeping and I didn't care. I I was 248 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: My oldest sister shared it with me. Then my younger 249 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: sister than my brother. I mean, but always my room 250 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: had no door. So I think that's how I ended 251 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: up in show business. I think the same. I'll tell 252 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: my wife, I go, don't you want to let's go 253 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: to the opposite here. Don't you want to commend me 254 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: for how neat I am? But would you would you 255 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: rather have a husband who didn't want to clean? No? No, 256 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: you that you have two biological children, to biological children, 257 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: and they're how old now? They're twenty one is twenty seven, 258 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: the other one is five and a half and you 259 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: have them doing what phase of your career? What were 260 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: you working on at the time you decided to put 261 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: the brakes on and have kids? Oh well I had 262 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: I had finished um okay, so I finished evening Shade. 263 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: I do tell this in my club act because I 264 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: always say I couldn't talk about the eighties and nineties 265 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: without talking about Burt Reynolds, because I did five projects 266 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: with him and we never had a thing, which is 267 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: probably why we were able to work together so often. 268 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: But I always adored him and he one morning, you know, Rob, 269 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: my second husband, and I were frisky and then I 270 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: go to work and Burt is directing this episode where 271 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: he has me do a stunt where I am running, running, running, 272 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: leaping over like a fence on a in a like 273 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: football stadium stand and I land and then you know, 274 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: run up to the team and he says, do it again, 275 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: do it again, Do it again, do it again. So 276 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: that night I was sitting in a restaurant, and this 277 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: is after three and a half years, sitting in a restaurant, 278 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: and I looked at Rob and I went, the eagle 279 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: has landed. I just got pregnant. He said. What I said, 280 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Contact was made and sure enough I 281 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: was pregnant. So I always tell people Burt Reyll's got 282 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: me pregnant, even though he's not the father of my kids. 283 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: He's the spiritual frother Spa. And when you worked with him, 284 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: he you did Cannibal too with him. Well, I first 285 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: did the man who loved women, and we had such 286 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: a great chemistry the very first day. But he called 287 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: me the night that we we met, the very night, 288 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: and he said, I want you to come down to 289 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: the Dinner theater in Jupiter, Florida. I want you to 290 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: do their playing our song, he said, And I want 291 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: you to do Cannonball Run too, but I want a 292 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: rewrite of the script. Do you know anybody, any of 293 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: the guys from Taxi that might be willing to take 294 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: a crack at it? I was like, okay, So originally 295 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: the Countball I've never told this story before. The Countball 296 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: Run to script was about the Dom and Burt sort 297 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: of rescue this girl who's hiding out in a sanitarium 298 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: and she's an heiress, and then they rescue her, and 299 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: then she and Burt end up in a thing. And 300 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: so then I get Harvey Miller, who was a taxi 301 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: writer the job, and he turns it into two women, 302 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: and then Shirley McLean wanted to do it, so then 303 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: of course they put Shirley with Burt and I was 304 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: with Dom, which was fine, but it's kind of funny. 305 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: But I had like one of the best experience. That 306 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: movie was so stupid. But there were a couple of 307 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: days where we had like twenty three wagon trains in 308 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: the desert outside of Tucson, Arizona, because it was a 309 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen degrees. So we started hair and makeup 310 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: was at two o'clock in the morning so we could 311 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: be on the road before four, and we pulled the 312 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: plug at one. But then everybody hung out at the 313 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: pool at the Arizona Inn. So it was Sammy Davis Jr. 314 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: And Dean Martin, all these guys and even Frank for 315 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: a day. And to be with Shirley, who My had 316 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: always loved and always idle, to play her friend and 317 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: then to have her hanging out with the rat pack. 318 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, I was this little girl 319 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: from Chicago who's watching these people at drive ins and stuff. 320 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: So it was like a lot of fun. Yeah, I 321 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: met him. For those people who don't know this, and 322 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't on a big devotee of this, but I 323 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: went a few times. Is that Norby Walter's famous record executive, 324 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: Norby Walters had his card game and the legendary card 325 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: game at his apartment Wednesday nights and West Wednesday nights 326 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: in West Hollywood. You go up to the apartment of 327 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: his near Holloway, Yeah, Halloway in last Annaga, Lasiannaga, on 328 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: your way to Barney's Beanery and on your way to 329 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: the Sunset Marquis and you go to his house. And 330 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: I went there. I went a handful of times. You know, 331 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: velvita cheese and no alcohol. That was no alcohol, and 332 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: you bought a hundred dollars where the chips and when 333 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: you were finished, you were done. There was no serious gambling. 334 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: And you went there. And I remember sitting there one time, 335 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: and there was Harvey Korman and Tim Tim Conway Conway, 336 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: the two of them were there one time. Kathy Lee 337 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Crosby would go every now and then Rod Steiger was 338 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: there with a couple of times. He was when you 339 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: were there, was there when I went. One time he 340 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: seemed like he was in the throes of his kind 341 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: of medicated agony. But but he but then to the 342 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: right of me one time was Don Adams. And Don 343 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: Adams is in a China white jumpsuit and everyone's waiting 344 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: for the moment to arrive when someone's going to just 345 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: do this and do the Don Adams thing. So somebody 346 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: will puts down two pairs, you know. So he puts 347 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: down two pairs, and I put down and I say 348 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: I have three kings. I do, and everybody laughs, and 349 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't laugh. And then finally he smiles and nods 350 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, good for you. You you saw 351 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: the opportunity and you took it. But he was very 352 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: serious and very really super antiseptic and very He was 353 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: there to play cards. He didn't want to talk about 354 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: his career or chit chatty. Was there to play cards 355 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: with a bunch of schmocks. We weren't hard players, were 356 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: eating Velvida and Hersy's kisses and drinking on punch. It's 357 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: funny you're bringing up Norby Walters because you probably don't 358 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: remember this, but we were both supposed to be there 359 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: on It was. It was June the seventh of two 360 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: thousand one. Okay, it was a Wednesday at June the 361 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: six of two thousand one, seriously, and you called up 362 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: and said you weren't gonna make it. He put me 363 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: on the phone with you, and I said, you said, 364 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Blah blah blah, And I said 365 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: something about I just I'm filing for divorce. And you said, oh, 366 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: can I talk to you about divorce? I said, you said, 367 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: let's meet tomorrow. So you and I went to Sushi 368 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Roku on Third Avenue and you were telling me there 369 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: was all the pitfalls. This was two thousand one. It 370 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: was what happened was we got together because I was 371 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: avoiding the process servers because everybody said, oh, you have 372 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: to let the woman serve first, because otherwise it looks 373 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: like she cheated. Blah blah blah blah blah. And we 374 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: were having a friendly divorce, you know, we went away 375 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: that weekend and read about it ourselves in the paper. 376 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: Rob and I were still friends. You know, I do 377 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: things weird, but he were still like really good friends. 378 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: But anyway, we sat at the sushi roku for like 379 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: two and a half hours and you told me everything 380 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: that was going on in what I should watch out for. 381 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: I know you remind me your energy and my feelings 382 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: if you remind me of when I was around streisand 383 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: once and I said to her, you know, you and 384 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: I would be the greatest divorced couple. You know, we 385 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: would be married, we'd be in love, maybe we'd have 386 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: a kid. Of course, we get divorced. It just has 387 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: to be that way to show business. But I come 388 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: over every Sunday. We'd have Chinese food screen on exactly. 389 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: And I feel the same way about you. You and 390 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: I would have made great x. We think very similarly, 391 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: and that we have that big family kind of thing. 392 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: This is a trite word and This is a trite idea, 393 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: but not so trite now in the age of the 394 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: pandemic and beyond. And that is positivity, and you have 395 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: always been this, like staggeringly positive healthy. What's the secret? Well, 396 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: A couple of things come to mind. I had a 397 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: really great family. We're still super close. My parents both 398 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: died tragically, both of them very young, and I think 399 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: it bonded the family. I did a lot of therapy. 400 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: I got my whole family involved in therapy. My my 401 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: therapist would put six speaker boxes up in her office 402 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: in Princeton, New Jersey, and every other Sunday for ten years, 403 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: the siblings would do a group therapy. So we've worked 404 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: out a lot of our stuff. That's number one. But 405 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: I had an extraordinary childhood which was totally unusual, with 406 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: the dancing school in the backyard, beauty shop in the kitchen, 407 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: an uncle who taught art at the Catholic grammar school 408 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: and lived upstairs with his boyfriend Charles, and menagerie of animals, 409 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: and I just had such an unusual way of growing up. 410 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: And I always had this mission to make something of 411 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: myself and to share. I think it's a middle child 412 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: and me always wanted to, like, if I have a 413 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: good idea, I want to share it with everybody. I've 414 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: never been very proprietary over anything. I just always want 415 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: to share with people. I think it comes from being 416 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: the middle maybe, But I also think having my memory 417 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: has helped, because the memory makes you get over things 418 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: very quickly, because you start to see the waves. And 419 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: also being an actress, you know, every bad experience was like, Okay, 420 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: I'm going to take note of this. What can I 421 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: do better next time? How can I figure this out? 422 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: You know? I say to people all the time, they go, 423 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: how do you do it? And it's like this, I go, 424 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: think of flaps up and it's like you just close 425 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: your ears to it, flaps up. I say that to 426 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: my kids all the time. You know, smile not and 427 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: move on. So you were married three times, you were 428 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: married twice, and you're married again now final, final, And 429 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: so each of these men things that you're willing to say, 430 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: what do they represent for you? You seem to be 431 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: such a thoughtful, deliberate aware. You seem like somebody that 432 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: all the lights are on your your brain, your mind, 433 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: your soul is like a house you pull up to. 434 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: It's like some kind of a Richard Neutra all glass 435 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: structure and all the lights are on. You're always on, 436 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And alert and aware. So 437 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: when you're married one, and you're married too, and you're 438 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: married three, what were you marrying them four? Well? First all, 439 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 1: Freddie and I met at a screen test and I 440 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: didn't know that they had added a kiss. And I 441 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: was the six girl screen testing opposite him for a 442 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: film called Hammett and we just different. People who don't 443 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: know this is Forest. Yeah, sorry, Frederick Forrest the Academy 444 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: Award nominate. And so he was so different from anybody 445 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: I knew. He was a lot older than I was, 446 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: but he was so different from anybody I ever knew. 447 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: And I was so fascinated by him because his brain 448 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: was so different and he was just I've just never 449 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: seen anything like a totally instinctive, brilliant actor. Brilliant actor 450 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: and would transform himself every part that he's played. He 451 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: looks completely different. And he wanted to marry me a 452 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: few months after we started dating, and I said no, 453 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: let's live together. He said, no marriage or nothing. I said, okay, 454 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: well then nothing. And then I went to my tenth 455 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: year high school reunion in Chicago, and he went to 456 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: a wedding and he called me and we were both 457 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: feeling very sentimental, and we said, okay, let's get married. 458 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: I said okay, and then we ended up getting married 459 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: three weeks later in New Orleans and that was it. 460 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: And then coming home from the honeymoon because the actors 461 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: were on strike, I was going back to taxing, and 462 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: I thought, what have I just done. I'm married a 463 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: total stranger to me. You know, it was like crazy. 464 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: But he was so fascinating and so loving and so 465 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: full of demons that if you're not somebody who is 466 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: exposed to demons a lot, you think like, I'll fix it. 467 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: I'm going to take care of that. Yeah, everything you 468 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: do in your twenties. No. I have three theories of marriage. 469 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: The first one is marriage is like making waffles. You 470 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 1: throw the first one out, okay. The second one is 471 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: marriage is finding that special certain someone you just know 472 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: you'd love to aggravate the rest of your life, because 473 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: marriage is like, you know, all these little like diggy 474 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: kind of things. And I said, but no, the real 475 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: theory sting XUBERI wrote something and I added something to it, 476 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: and that is you'll have a happy marriage when you 477 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: real marriage isn't two people gazing longingly into each other's eyes, 478 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: but rather looking out over the mountain in the same 479 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: direction with their hands on each other's genitals. That's the 480 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: part I added. That's the part I added, because you've 481 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: got to no, that wasn't sayting zuberin now sorry that 482 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: So you got to have vision and meat. So my 483 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: first marriage was all heat, my second marriage was all vision, 484 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: and finally I have vision and heat in my third marriage. 485 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: Actress Mary Lou Henner. If you like hearing about the 486 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: lives of groundbreaking women in comedy, check out my interview 487 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: with Carol Burnett. Her hit variety show ran for more 488 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: than a decade in the late sixties and seventies, and 489 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: at the height of her success, she had to tread carefully. 490 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: In that era there the only one who really would 491 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: speak up was Lucy. It was very strong. But it's 492 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: not in my nature to take over confront or anything. 493 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, like if if a sketch wasn't working or something. 494 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: Instead of like Glee coner Sid would say, let's look, guys, 495 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: the stinks. Now, come on, you gotta fix it. But 496 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: but you know, they would do that, I would say, 497 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: I'd call the writers down into the rehearsal hall and 498 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: I'd say, you know, guys, um, I'm not doing this 499 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: too well. Do you think maybe you could help me 500 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: out with a different line here or there, because you know, 501 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: otherwise I would have been a bit here more of 502 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: my conversation with Carol Burnett in our archives that Here's 503 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: the Thing dot org. After the Break, Mary lou Henner 504 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: talks about how a change she made in her approach 505 00:24:46,440 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: to auditioning completely opened up her career. I mean, I 506 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: like Baldwin and you were listening to Here's the Thing. 507 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: Mary lou Henner is passionate about encouraging people to take 508 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: charge of their happiness and well being. She's written several 509 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: best selling books on living a healthy lifestyle, often sharing 510 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: lessons that changed her own life. What happened was I 511 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: went with Jerry Katzman, who's the head of William Morris 512 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: at the time. He said, you have to write a book. 513 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm hooking you up with Judith Reagan. So Judith and 514 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: I met at lunch and we like hung out together 515 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: all day and everything. I had a book deal, so 516 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: I started working on my autobiography. She is a character, 517 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: and when she started her own imprint, she said to me, 518 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: you have to write a health book because you're in 519 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: such good shape. You this, you changed so much since 520 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You. Every time I have anything wrong 521 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: with me and my kids, I call you, and you 522 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: always seem to know the answer. So I was doing 523 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: the show Chicago on Broadway and one of the guys said, oh, 524 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: why don't you give us like some lectures. I was like, okay, 525 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: So in between shows, I would do these seminars and 526 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: I'd have a little, you know, like recorder, and I'd be, 527 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, talking to them, and then I'd be putting 528 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: on my eyelashes like the evils of dairy products, you know, 529 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: as I'm putting on my eyelashes to go do roxy. 530 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: And so then I worked with somebody who was like 531 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: a real crafts person in terms of like books, and 532 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: I was so rebbed up from all the fosse and 533 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: my boys were very little, so I could like give 534 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: him a bath, go to the theater, be revved up, 535 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: go to an office and work on the book. And 536 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: a few weeks after the show ended, the book came 537 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: out and it went on the New York Times bestseller list, 538 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: and I've sold over a million copies of that first 539 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: health book, but then got a contract to keep going 540 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: and going and going, so then I've done ton. What's 541 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: your biggest health concern? You know, growing up in my lifetime, 542 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: everybody was always saying, you know, don't smoke. And then 543 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: when I went through my drug phase, people said, You've 544 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: got to get sober and stop taking all these drugs 545 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: and drinking, which I had a very relatively brief but 546 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: white hot period of that for a couple of years 547 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: in the eighties when I was very young, and then 548 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: as I've gotten older. You know, the thing that shocks 549 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: me that is the utter poison in my life is sugar, 550 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: because I was pre diabetic and now I'm full diabetic 551 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: and I'm which has been so for me and for me. Yeah, 552 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: what's your health concerns? Now? Like, what do you say 553 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: to yourself? I never eat. I sometimes eat every now 554 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: and then I cheat and I allow myself to eat. 555 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: When you want to treat yourself to something that you 556 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: know isn't the best possible thing for you, is it 557 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: something sweet? Is a savory person, No, I would say 558 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: probably sushi, is like my own, my last not so 559 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: guilty pleasure. Yeah, but I haven't had dairy since Augustine. 560 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: It was a Wednesday. I gave up dairy and never 561 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: never had dairy since. And it changed my life. So 562 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm always trying to get people off of what was 563 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: the impact sinuses and congestion you here about that's a lot, 564 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: but you know, sore throats and stomach aches all the time. 565 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: When I lived in New York, I'd lived near Z 566 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: Bars and I would go pick up cheese ends. You know, 567 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: it's a bars where they cut the cheese a certain 568 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: way and then up a little a little rind and stuff. 569 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: And I'd buy these little cheese bags, cheese ends bags 570 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: on my way to unemployment and wondered why am I 571 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: not working when I'm fat, constipated and half impulse, you know, 572 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean, my whole stomach changed after I gave up dairy. 573 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: I used to be an ice cream addict. I was 574 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: like brand Oh they say the Brandon would sit with 575 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: like a half a gallon of ice cream and watch 576 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: TV and you have like a big jug of ice 577 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: cream and lay in his bed and just with a 578 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: spoon and eat like a half a gallon of ice 579 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: cream that wasn't that bad. But dairy is always the 580 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: first thing I talked to people about always. That's that's 581 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: been on my that's my soapbox speech. Immediately with people especially, 582 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: I can read people's faces and tell that they're like 583 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 1: allergic to it or something like that, or they've had trouble. 584 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: But the big killer right now, I think for everybody 585 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: is the whole stress management people. Really, you know, I 586 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: say three things. Learn to love the food that loves you, 587 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: and we know what doesn't love us. Learned to love 588 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: the food that loves you. It's very obviously what does 589 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: Dairy did not love me, Meat did not love me. 590 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: Sugar that does not love me, nor does it love you. Obviously, 591 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: So I say, learned to love the food that loves you. 592 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: I say motion is the lotion, because we've got to move. 593 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, your cat stretches, your dogs, you walk your dogs, 594 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: your hamster's got a wheel with this beautiful human animal. 595 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: You've gotta walk, you gotta do, you gotta move, move, move. 596 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: Motion is the lotion. And then I also say you 597 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: better fall in love with your stress or it's going 598 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: to kill you. Because if I when I give I 599 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: go all over the country. You better I can't fall 600 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: in love with my stress. Well yeah, I mean it's 601 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: but no, you have to, I always say, because I 602 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: give give speeches all over the country. I'm always like 603 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: asked to give you know, could go to different things, 604 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: seminars and stuff. And I always say, every one of 605 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: you in this audience wrote down your problems on a 606 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: piece of paper, and I collected them and I started 607 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: reading them out, and you had to pick some problems 608 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: that are on a list. You'd all take back your 609 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: own because you know the beast, you know how to 610 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: handle it. You just might not be doing it well. 611 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: I always tell people whenever i'm especially when I'm speaking 612 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: to people in this profession. Number one, you find out 613 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: how much you love acting. It's itself because you're gonna 614 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: get to do so little of it. The life of 615 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: the actor is all this other bullshit. You know, the 616 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: rest of the year and you're in front of a camera, 617 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: what forty five minutes a day, an hour or a day. 618 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: The rest is sitting in the room you do the show. 619 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: It's two hours at night. If you're inclined to do theater, 620 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: And I said, you need to find out how much 621 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: you love it. At number two, if you're in, get 622 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: into it. Don't do what I did, which is to 623 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: be like fuck l A and fuck you and I 624 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: think you're all full of ship, and you know this 625 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: whole thing is just this business is full of ship. 626 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: Be a part of it. Joined the academy, go to 627 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: the screening, be a part of the business, and don't 628 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: be cynical about it. And if not, then get out. 629 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: Get out. I always say, if something, do it or 630 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: don't do it. If someone can talk to you out 631 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: of it, let it, because otherwise you have to really 632 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: really want to do it. And also I always say 633 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: to people, look fall in love with auditioning because it 634 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: might be the only ten minutes you have that job. 635 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: So if you do it, you know what I mean, 636 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: then then it's like your job for ten minutes. And 637 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: maybe you remember all these people from the TV Star 638 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: Shelf that we always talk about, Gregory Harrison, who didn't 639 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: inter you wants to Change My Life, Gregory Harris And 640 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: we did Jack Nicholson h and Margaret parts in in 641 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: Kernal Knowledge at the Pasadena Playhouse. We played those parts, 642 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: so we saw each other naked in a shower. Yeah, Oh, 643 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: my god, I'm sure you both look pretty good. We did, 644 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: We still do, he did. He did an interview once 645 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: years ago, it was a million years ago, like TV 646 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: Guide or something stupid thing, and he did an interview 647 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: where he said, basically I'm paraphrasing, he was like, you know, 648 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: his whole energy changed, his whole career changed when he 649 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: walked into auditions and his attitude was like, how can 650 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: I help you? Like you called me here, I didn't 651 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: put a gun to your head and make you audition 652 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: me for this part. I have something you want. You're 653 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: looking for something and whether and once he stopped giving 654 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: the energy of like oh and being fawning and obsequious 655 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: with them, everything changed. It's so funny you're saying this 656 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: because I tell a story in my show again about 657 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: how I auditioned for forty commercials before I got one 658 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: and the reason I find he got and then I 659 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: booked seventy two and two and a half years. I 660 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: was quite crazy. I was doing commercials constantly, but it 661 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: took me forty auditions to get my first one because 662 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: on the thirty nine a friend of mine called me 663 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: and it was for Mr. Coffee. I still remember the 664 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: jingle and I had to sing it. I was so 665 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: wrong for the part, but he called me in and 666 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: he called me that night and he said he knew 667 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: I was having trouble with auditions, and he said, are 668 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: you this way the way you were today with me 669 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: in your auditions? And I went, oh, my gosh, no, 670 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: are you kidding. I was just so myself because you 671 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: were there. He said, we almost changed the whole concept 672 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: of the commercial because you were so original. He said, 673 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: that's what you have to do every time you go 674 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: into an audition. Stop giving people what you think they want. 675 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: Just go in there and it's gonna hit. It's gonna hit. 676 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: And he was right. And then I booked one right 677 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: after the other and I became this body parts model 678 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: and it was just like crazy that I did a 679 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: lot of different parts of the body. I was which 680 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: parts of the body did which part? This is in 681 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: my show? I said. I did four plate text Brock commercials. 682 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's got sash here and seeing was to 683 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: play text panties. You were wearing a bra, You were 684 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: a bra model. I was a bra model, but sometimes 685 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: I had like a shirt on, you know, and you 686 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: could see certain things. But it was just like I'm 687 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: looking exactly, And then I did to play text panties 688 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: commercials or all you saw was my button. These were 689 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: separate commercials, separate. The bra and the panties were separate shoots, separate, 690 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: because if I was the producer, that's what I want 691 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: to said. I said, and we need to shoot these separately, 692 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: and we need to shoot them over five days. And 693 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: I did do yes, And then I said, but all 694 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: you see is my button, my crotch, walking my dog, 695 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: walking around Lincoln Center getting on a bus. But the 696 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: polaroids when you walk into the audition for a panties commercial, 697 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: it's amazing because you see all these polaroids of just 698 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: people's crotches and butts and side views and everything else. 699 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: And then I was even the Fruit of the Loom 700 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: panty host girl inside of a giant apple with my 701 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: legs sticking out. And so I did like different cuts. 702 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: But then I also did like I did an ex 703 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: on by Centennial minute where I played Annie Sullivan. I 704 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: got a Cleon domination for that, and I did everything 705 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: from Reese's peanut butter to gleam toothpaste. So many different 706 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: times I was the ponderosa Steakhouse Girl, the samson I 707 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: Luggage Girl on. So I just kept doing it and 708 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: doing it and doing it because every time and I 709 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: learned this the heart, I mean, I learned the hard way. 710 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: You walk in and you bring something to it, like 711 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: Gregory says, how can I help you? Let me show 712 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: you something like I would do with it. But what 713 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: did you study at Chicago? You studied theater. No, they 714 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: had a theater department, but they had no theater degree. 715 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: So even though it was so, I know, I was 716 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: a political science major and so and the first two 717 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: years is mostly the core curriculum. So where did you 718 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: learn to sing a dance? Well? I grew up in 719 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: the dancing studio and I always sang because my two 720 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: older sisters were in choir and stuff like that. So 721 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: I'd go to their practices and stuff, and it was 722 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: just something I always wanted, you know. I was on 723 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: stage at two and a half at a father like 724 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: a pinnacle for you, was at a big Dream Country Was. 725 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: They called me on March the fourth scene Walter, whom 726 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: I knew from the Greece family, and they called me 727 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: and they said, uh, Annie Ranking is leaving Chicago. And 728 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: she thinks she'd be a good replacement. What kind of 729 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: dance shape are you in? And I said, oh, I 730 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: haven't had my legs up over my head except for 731 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: childbirtha a good weekend for about five years. So I 732 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: better get my ass back into class. So I went 733 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: to class for ten days and then I went to 734 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: audition and then he said go home, work on the fosse, 735 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: and I did. And I went back and there were 736 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: like twenty seven potential actors in the room and they 737 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: kept eliminating, eliminating until they told me I had the job. 738 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: So I did four hundred and eight performance four hundred 739 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,479 Speaker 1: eight performances Broadway, but also did Vegas because they asked 740 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: me to come to Vegas and I was like, no, 741 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to Vegas. And then my 742 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: agent said, well, let's have some fun with your quote. 743 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: And then he called me back. He said, they made 744 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: you an offer you can't refuse. You're going to Vegas. 745 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, So I went to Vegas. But 746 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: my favorite Vegas story because people always said, what's the 747 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: difference between Broadway and Vegas? Although it's not this anymore, 748 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: I'd say, oh yeah, cup holders, because back then you could. 749 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: This was in two thousand. You couldn't. You could drink 750 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: in Vegas, but you couldn't do it on Broadway. So, um, 751 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: I've been there two weeks and they said we love 752 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: you here. I said, really, you've seen the show and 753 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: I was like all excited. He said, no, I haven't 754 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: seen the show yet, but your crowd drinks a lot 755 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: more belvedere than most people. Okay, yeah, I'll never forget. 756 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: Someone wasn't connected to like one of these big fizzy musicals, 757 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: and they were doing like some kind of a cast replacement, 758 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: and they wanted all this stunt casting with somebody famous. 759 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: And this actress walks into audition for the lead role. 760 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: She's this famous actress, and she comes in and she 761 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: does her audition and she leaves and everyone's just kind 762 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: of standing there slack joe. After she leaves, and the 763 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: director turns every and goes, she can't sing, she can't dance, 764 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: she can't act. She's a star, you know, like we're 765 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: gonna hire her even though she has She gets a 766 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: D or inn F in all three categories based on 767 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: what they saw there in that room that day. It's 768 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: so funny because there's all these stories that you know 769 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: that sort of shape your life, like that one you 770 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: know you and you just right you hear it and 771 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 1: you understand and you you know it right away. When 772 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: I was first on taxi, somebody at ABC came and 773 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: he goes, I've got a movie for you, Mary Lou. 774 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: I said, really, what is it? And he said sizzle? 775 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: I said, what's it about? He said, who cares sizzle? 776 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: So Johnny and I always used to say we would 777 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: like joking, like people were like, you know, who cares sizzle? 778 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's just that thing that you do. New 779 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: York Times bestselling author Mary Lou Henner. If you're enjoying 780 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: this conversation, be sure to subscribe to Here's the Thing 781 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 782 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. When we returned, Mary Lou Henner 783 00:37:46,200 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: talks about finding lasting love the third time around. I'm 784 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin and this is Here's the Thing. Mary Lou 785 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: Hanna recently developed and performed a one woman autobiographical show. 786 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: It's filled with songs and stories from her remarkable life. 787 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: I sing a song about my son's and show a 788 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: video of like pictures of them and little videos. Oh 789 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: it kills me every time if I watch it. I'm 790 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: crying just thinking about it. I cried. And it's a 791 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: mash up between Nick of Time because you know, it's 792 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: funny NICKI took me three and a half years to 793 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: get pregnant Joey like immediately I didn't even get my period. 794 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: It was like, Bam, I'm pregnant again. So and he 795 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: and so I do Nick of Time and happiness is 796 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: just a thing called joe and that's it. And also 797 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: I sing a song about Freddie, my first husband. I 798 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: do Desperado because that's kind of who he was in 799 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: my life. And that song always gets to me too. 800 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: So it's like telling some of those type stories and 801 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 1: talking about Bird was very emotional to a couple of times. 802 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: So it depends, you know, it depends on the crowd. 803 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: When you come and you're gonna camp an, it's your 804 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: husband gonna come with you? He comes. Yeah, he's great. 805 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 1: Oh that's he's another whole story. You know, we wrote 806 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: a book. We got together. He was my roommate's boyfriend. 807 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: I didn't dare twinkle in his direction. But then when 808 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: he called me out of nowhere six months after my 809 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: divorce from Rob was final. We got together within a week. 810 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: We're saying I love you. We're going to spend the 811 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: rest of our lives together. And two months later he's 812 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: diagnosed with two cancers, bladder cancer and lung cancer. And 813 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: we ended up doing a whole protocol for him that 814 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: didn't involve chemo or radiation. They wanted to remove his bladder, 815 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: his prostate, run a hose up his penis, and we 816 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: could pump it up six times if we wanted to 817 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: have sex. They were they were pushing all of this. 818 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: I was like, no, and we always say that the pump, 819 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: by the way, don't do it for fun. No, he 820 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: doesn't need the pump at all. No, my husband, No, No, 821 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: not at all. He saved all of his organs. He 822 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: saved his organs and he's been in remission. It will 823 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: be eighteen years November twenty four. It's pretty remarkable. And 824 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: he didn't he did immunotherapy, but he went completely vegan, 825 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: and he went got rid of I mean he did 826 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: every thing. He shot himself with iscadoor, which is extract 827 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: of mistletoe. He got rid of all of the mercury 828 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: fillings in his mouth, kulation therapy, high colonics, lymphatic massages, 829 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: infrared saunas and he stays on this protocol and he 830 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: has been in remission almost eighteen years. It's pretty remarkable, 831 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, pretty cool. When I went to the doctor 832 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: and he was going to do the anterior hip replacement 833 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: process and he says to me, now, I want to 834 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: just review with you that you know that that when 835 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: you do the anterior procedure, when we go in the 836 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: front as supposed to the side is the quickest to heal. 837 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: But there are some complications. Is like point zero two 838 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: percent that we're gonna nick some nerves in there. There's 839 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: some maarterial to heverage. I said, what nerve? He took 840 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 1: his finger and he went like this, and I turned 841 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: my mind and said, oh, you can just tear that out, 842 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: just that nerve. Right, I'm done. You can just yank 843 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: get apparel of pliers and zax come on you. And 844 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: we have an expression in my family PF. Okay, we 845 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: have this expression. My brothers and I made it up 846 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: and it's like measures the sexual quotient of things like 847 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 1: oh man, there was so much PF at that party, 848 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: or man I saw that move No PF between the 849 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: two of them. And PF stands for pussy factor or 850 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: penis factor, right, because things have PF, you know. And 851 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't like b D for big dick energy because 852 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: that is sexist and sizest, do you know what I mean? 853 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: But you and Hillaria obviously have tons of PF. Obviously 854 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: six kids, but but you you still want to have 855 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: You're still gonna have PF even I don't want you. 856 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: I don't want to retire from that. But but six kids, 857 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: it's really been. Its been like a six and eight 858 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: years is six kids in seven years and seven years 859 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: and seven years? Oh that's right, seven years. You know. 860 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this day, but we 861 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: were all all the kids because Ireland is close to 862 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: my Joey's age. He's born November twelve, so she's like 863 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: the So we were all at a meat because Joey 864 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: was like the real athlete in the family. But Joey 865 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: was at this meet, and Caitlyn Jenner was there and 866 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: her kids and you know, Ireland and my Joey and 867 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: they were all doing their sports thing. And you walked 868 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: up to my son Nick, who is about thirteen at 869 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: the time, fourteen at the time, and you said, and 870 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: what are you going to be besides a Ralph Lauren model? 871 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: Because he's very cute. What is he doing now? He's 872 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: a director. He's a director. He's he went to Columbia 873 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: and he directs all these videos. And he directed this 874 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 1: short that has now been bought by Will Ferrell's company 875 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: and he's turned it into a two hour movie and 876 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,479 Speaker 1: he might be directing it. We'll see. But it looks good. 877 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: Can I just say what my son Joey's doing too? 878 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: Because he's because I said about Nick. So Joey lives 879 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. He does his improv troupe that they do whatever. 880 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: But he's an international bridge player. He's one of the 881 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: top bridge players in the world under twenty five, and 882 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: he became a life master at twenty four. And he 883 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: has all these women that he plays bridge with and 884 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: they pay a lot money to play with him because 885 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: he's so cute. And he's writing a script called Bridge Giggalow. 886 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: Because I have a comedy writer and I'm a director. Yeah, yeah, 887 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling me he should bead. Jonathan Ames book The 888 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: Extra Man that was made into a film with Kevin 889 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: Klein and Paul Dano and that's your son, Paul. He 890 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: is a character because because because it's about a boy 891 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 1: that meets like a guy who's like a who's like 892 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: a walker. He's like a male prostitute, and he doesn't 893 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: necessarily sleep with the women, but he's like he takes 894 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: all of these old biddies to like Palm Beach, Cotillions 895 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: and all the shops. I don't think I'm thinking that 896 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: my son is talking about them as old biddies, because 897 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, someone who know not not his not his 898 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: bridge park. Anyway, My love to you, and I look 899 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: forward to seeing him in New York. Okay, love to 900 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: after and you're one. Sometimes it's called Mary lou I know, 901 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: so we actually said that. I forgot that. I know 902 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: we literally they My wife calls her Mary lou. I 903 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: know she doesn't Maria Luthia, but my wife calls her 904 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: Mary Louke. My wife calls my daughter Mary. It's on 905 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: the back of her little high chair chair chair. I know, 906 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: see I pay attention. My name is Mary, Lucy, Denise, Cecilia, Hannah, Forrest, 907 00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: Lieberman Brown, good luck, vision and heat because up on 908 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: that chair. I love to you, sweet. We'll talk to 909 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: you down the road. Okay actress and author Mary Lou Henner. 910 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Kathleen Russo, Carrie Donohue, Maureen Hoban, 911 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: and Zack McNeice. Our engineer is Frank Imperial. I'm Alec Baldwin. 912 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: Here's the thing is brought to you by iHeart Radio