1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: It's that time time sign Si luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is. 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: On the air. 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: Get into mic. 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 4: We gotta feed a beard. I don't plan to shave. 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 5: And it's you think, but I just gotta see I'm 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 5: doing all right. 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: We'll come mixts. 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 6: I'm beating ready. That's a true. 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 4: See the drink or drug. 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: And we put the morning show to bed. 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: On Friday, all hell broke loose less than an hour 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: later in the White House. 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: No, not because of our show. It was unrelated. A 15 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: good question. You're asking all the right questions. It was. 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: It was about I don't know, it must have been. 17 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: It was just before they were to have had lunch 18 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: because the White House staff or the Trump team staffers 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: got to eat the lunch instead. But as you probably know, 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: Ukraine's Zelensky was meeting with President Trump and his cabinet. Well, 21 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: the way the room was situated. If you're looking at 22 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: the screen, to the left is a chair for Zelensky. 23 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: The typical setup to the right is a chair for 24 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: the President Trump, and then to their left our right 25 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: screen right can be seen sometimes and not seen sometimes 26 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: is a table turned perpendictu. I mean, is a couch 27 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: turned perpendicular, and it had JD. Vans on the end, 28 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: and it had Marco Rubio, and there had been about 29 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: forty minutes of a meeting before the fireworks. 30 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: And this weekend JD. 31 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: Vance shed some light that President Trump had not seen 32 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: what Zelensky was doing with his body language, because Trump's 33 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: looking kind of forward and talking to to Zelensky, who's 34 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: to his right our screen left. And Jdvan said he 35 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: just had enough the eye rolling and the various things 36 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: he did. And there's been a lot of effort put 37 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: into things that Zelensky did to give off certain body language. 38 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: There is the accusation that at some point he said 39 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: the word sikka or sukka, which is supposed to be 40 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: a Ukrainian word for bitch, that he said that in 41 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: the middle of his sentence. I've watched these things and listened. 42 00:02:58,720 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 43 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: I mean, they'reeople that sort of get off on these 44 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: sorts of things. I don't know that it matters. I 45 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: certainly don't think JD. Vance would have known that if 46 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: it was. But it doesn't matter because Zelenski's tone, which 47 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: he had developed a habit, I describe such things as 48 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: a small child. 49 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: A toddler or a dog. They react based on how 50 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: you react. 51 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: They develop patterns and behaviors based on how you react. 52 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: That's why when you see a dog that can't be controlled, 53 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: that's because they've never been controlled. If you control a dog, 54 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: they're fantastic. Or you see a toddler whose parents who's 55 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: typically mother doesn't know how to doesn't know how to 56 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: handle them, and so that's what they do. But you 57 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: institute a little discipline and everything changes. Trump and JD. 58 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: Vance gave him the what for, and Trump sent him 59 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: away and said no soup for Ukraine, and Zelensky was embarrassed, 60 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: whereupon he proceeded to rush to the UK or the 61 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: British Prime Minister and try to cut a deal there. 62 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: He'd already had a deal, we now know, and Zelensky's 63 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: in a world of her because if the United States 64 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: pulls out of this deal, Zelenski does not have the 65 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: money to fight this war. And I think what ends 66 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 3: up happening is that Zelensky overplayed his hand and made 67 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: a huge mistake. And with apologies to the Oakridge boys, 68 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: this is kind of where we imagine his headspace is 69 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: right now. 70 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: I wish would have just said yes, because now I'm 71 00:04:52,040 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: all alone. Ever since US. I walked in and I 72 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: shook my head, and you knew I wasn't strong. I 73 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: wish I would have just said yes, because now I'm 74 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: all alone. I wish I would have just said yes, 75 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: because now I'm all alone. Ever sent a US of me, 76 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: I'm as news though I walked in and shook my 77 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: head and you knew who I wasn't strong. 78 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 6: I wish I. 79 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: Would have just said yes, because now I'm all alone. 80 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 6: First few months of war went well. 81 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 5: We made a bunch of bucks, peeled a couple billion, 82 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 5: all the tanks and toes and trugs, faith the ghost, 83 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: the key, just to keep my pockets flushed. 84 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: But you figured out my graphs and risk, so now 85 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: I'm screwed. I wish I would have just said yes, 86 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: because now I'm all alone. Ever since a US of me, 87 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm as wood as though I. 88 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 6: Walked in and shop my head and you knew I 89 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 6: wasn't strong. 90 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: I wish I would have just said this, because how 91 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: I'm all alone. I wish I would have just said yes, 92 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: because now I'm all alone. Ever since the US left me, 93 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: I'm as good as done. I walked in and shave 94 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: my head, and you knew I wasn't strong. I wish 95 00:06:54,279 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 2: I would have just said this because now I'm all alone. 96 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 6: I wish I would have. 97 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: Just said yes, because now I'm all along. Ever sister 98 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: you has left me. I'm asked, good, that's done. I 99 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: walked in and should my head and you knew I 100 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: was in strong. I wish I would have just said this. 101 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: It's no why I'm all alone. I wish I would 102 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: have just said yes, because now I'm all along. Ever 103 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: sister yous left me. I asked, good, that's done. I 104 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: walked in and show my head and you knew I 105 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: was in strong. I wish I would have just said this, 106 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: it's how I'm all along. I wish I would have 107 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: just said yes, because now I'm all along. Ever since 108 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: you has left me, I'm as good as done. I 109 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: walked in and shook my head and you knew I 110 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: wasn't strong. I wish I would have just said yes, 111 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: because now I'm on. 112 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: Alone. 113 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 6: Yellow Pudding Bob's posen putting on. 114 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 7: The State show Yellow brand pudding pops made with the 115 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 7: goodness of real jello pudding. It was February twenty eight. 116 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 7: It was a Friday. You told them to the White House, 117 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 7: all humming my way. It was on the table, rare 118 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 7: Earth and whatnot. First of quick jet, then a dinner 119 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 7: servant come quiet. It started great, all smiles and cordial. 120 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 7: Trump looking trumpy, Jake Vance looking jovial. Then something happened 121 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 7: in the dinner switch and the guests got grumpy, started 122 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 7: acting like a bitch, interrupted interceding, intercepting conversation, started showing 123 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 7: his colors didn't know who he was facing like a 124 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 7: peewee playing pros. 125 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: He was out of his league. 126 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 7: It was tag team wrestling. 127 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 6: It was blitz Greek. It was over fo. It started 128 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 6: big ave. 129 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 7: No quarterer, little lord Fauntleroy, get in your corner, the 130 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 7: fat lady saying, and the people rejoiced. 131 00:09:37,600 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 6: Yo z shut it, bab you're five foot three? Is Christ? 132 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 8: He broken? 133 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 6: This is fire. 134 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 8: He killed out white people and he didn't exchange prisoners. 135 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 8: We signed the exchange of prisons, but he didn't do it. 136 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 8: What kind of diplomacy g g Us became involved? What 137 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 8: what do you what do you? 138 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 6: What do you mean? 139 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to 140 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: end the destruction of your country pass. But if mister President, 141 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: mister President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you 142 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: to come into the Oval Office to try to litigate 143 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 3: this in front of the American media. 144 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: Right now, you guys are going. 145 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: Around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you 146 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: have manpower problems. 147 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 9: It's get that kid a high chair. The warhawks you have. 148 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 6: To be you don't have the car. 149 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 9: You're buried there, your people that die. 150 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 6: Tell you you're running low. Soldiers. Listen, you're running slow 151 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 6: and soldiers it would be a damn Gretna. Then contin 152 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,239 Speaker 6: you tell us. 153 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to cease fire. 154 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 6: I don't want to cease fire. I want to go 155 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 6: and I wanted this. Look, if you could get a 156 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 6: ceasefire right now, I tell you you take it. So 157 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 6: the bullets stopped flying, and your meant stuff courting kills. 158 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: Course we won, just stop the war. 159 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 6: But I'm saying you don't want to see that. 160 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 8: I said to you, I want to see because you 161 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 8: get a ceasefire faster than it is. 162 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 6: You're losing baby from the White House. 163 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 5: You're running. 164 00:11:52,559 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: It's that you want to lunch your ball. You're considered 165 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: this for a moment before the war began. 166 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: In early twenty twenty two, the size of the Ukrainian 167 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: economy was two hundred billion dollars annually, making it about 168 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: the size of the state of Arkansas's economy, not nothing. 169 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: And Arkansas's actually doing some things right now. Sarah Huckabee 170 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: Sanders is riding a wave, is riding a wave of 171 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: goodwill toward Arkansas and what they're doing adding beyond just agriculture, 172 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 3: and adding beyond just agriculture, and Walmart's headquarters, tech and 173 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: all sorts of things, including tourism. I love Arkansas, beautiful 174 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: state that doesn't get its due. It was a two 175 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: hundred billion dollar economy before the war, and we've given 176 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: them more than that already. That's the size of their 177 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: entire economy. Let's start there, President Trump. They had been 178 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: meeting for about forty minutes before the heat that we saw, 179 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: and part of the deal was that Trump wants for 180 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: US interests the mineral rights, or at least a portion 181 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: of the mineral rights with Zelensky. Zelensky has made the 182 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: same deal with the British Prime Minister as well, So 183 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: you can't sell them twice. 184 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: But to put this into perspective, There. 185 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: Is an estimate that Trump wants five hundred billion dollars 186 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: worth of rare earth minerals. But when you dig into 187 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: these rare earth minerals, that's not an easy thing. The 188 00:13:53,120 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: Ukrainian economy, the largest assets they have is coal deposits 189 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: and oil and gas. Their rare earth minerals are things 190 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: like lithium, cobalt. There are neodymium, neodymium I think it is, 191 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: which is used in wind turbines and electric vehicles. The 192 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: demand for electric vehicles is way down, way down, and 193 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: I don't ever want to see another wind turbine, and 194 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: under Trump, I don't think you will. So I say 195 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: that to say some of their rare earth minerals have 196 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: wildly fluctuating values Ukraine. Forbes declared ten years ago that 197 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: there are twelve trillion with a t dollars worth of 198 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: rare earth minerals that Ukraine is sitting atop which everything 199 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: I read from every end of the spectrum and every person, 200 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: whether they wherever they be from, that is not true. 201 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: That is just not true. 202 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: But I also came to learn that the way you 203 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: extract these rare earth minerals is very, very difficult, because 204 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: you have to extract them with the ore or as 205 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: a component of ore, and then you have to pulverize 206 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: that ore into a powder so that you can separate 207 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: the extremely valuable rare earth minerals from the ore which 208 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: is not valuable. And then once you separate it, you 209 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: using chemicals, and those chemicals are very very harsh, like 210 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: biohazard harsh, and then you have to put it into 211 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: the form that it's going to be exported. Presently, none 212 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: of those rare earth minerals are being extracted, not only 213 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: because it's a war, but because the Lensky doesn't have 214 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: the money. 215 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: To extract it. 216 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: It costs more presently to extract those minerals then you 217 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: can sell them for on the open market. Well, guess 218 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: who fills the void with the neodymium and some of 219 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: the others. As it turns out you won't believe this, 220 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: but China eighty percent of the world's supply. China is 221 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: searching the world to find rare earth minerals to make 222 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: electric cars that they will dominate the electric car and 223 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: they now export more cars than Japan because of the 224 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: electric car. 225 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: And what do you think China wants to do? 226 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: Why do you think China's Democrats want this war continued. 227 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: The Michael Barry Show. 228 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: Simple man, a friend of mine that many of them know, 229 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: quite a few of you, was arrested a few days 230 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: ago and but at thirty hours in jail, and it 231 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: is quite the story to tell. And I have asked 232 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: him to join us on the air and tell that story, 233 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: which he will do in probably about forty five minutes. 234 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: You don't want to miss this story because I'll bet 235 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: you five thousand of you know him, maybe more. Yeah, 236 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 3: I'd be pretty sure of that. Former Harris County District 237 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: Attorney Kim Ogg talking about Democrat Judge Hillary Unger releasing 238 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: the thug on bond that was charged with the ambush 239 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 3: murder of Harris County Sheriff's deputy Fernando Escada. She has 240 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: some pretty strong words here, she was on Fox and Friends. 241 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 10: Our judges, unfortunately in Harris County, have shown a pattern 242 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 10: of releasing repeat violent offenders. Among us right now, there 243 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 10: are more than eight hundred and thirty fugitives or individuals 244 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 10: on bond for capital murder or murder, but LJ none 245 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 10: for the murder of a police officer. 246 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: This is a first for us, how did this happen. 247 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 11: I just want to understand the psychology behind the thinking 248 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 11: from the judge that the new DA not pushed back 249 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 11: and say I'm representing not only in the state of Texas, 250 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 11: but law enforcement as well. 251 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: This was an m bush. 252 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 6: We know the ankle. 253 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 11: Monitors don't work, they're the monitored by private companies. This 254 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 11: is just not safe for our community. 255 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 10: Not safe as an understatement. With eight hundred and thirty 256 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 10: fugitives or individuals on bond for murder and capital murder, 257 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 10: we know the average person in the public is in danger. 258 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 10: What the thinking of the judge was. We see docket 259 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 10: entries where their statements that the judge had to set 260 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 10: a bond. That is true in certain circumstances, but she 261 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 10: could have set a bond that was high enough to 262 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 10: protect the public. Unfortunately, Judge Hillary Hunger is a rogue 263 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 10: judge and notorious for releasing repeat offenders who go out 264 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 10: and kill other members of our community. 265 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: We've got to stop these rogue judges. 266 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 10: I was attacked as DA for fighting against this type 267 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 10: of activity by our local judges. Right now, we appear 268 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 10: to have a DA this complacent and okay with it. 269 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 10: He clearly wasn't an average criminal defendant. He had access 270 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 10: to money to make this type of bond ten percent 271 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 10: charged by the bonding companies's standard. But this is insult 272 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 10: upon injury to the fallen officer's family to know that 273 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 10: their loved one's murderer is free today in his home 274 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 10: under quote house arrest. We know that those GPS monitors 275 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 10: simply give the public a false sense of security when 276 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 10: in truth, they provide none. 277 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, an unhinged Deer Park man with a lengthy criminal 278 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: record post videos vowing to murder police officers. He was 279 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: arrested and freed on a PR bond. And you remember 280 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 3: what a PR bond person recognisance bond. That means, literally, 281 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: instead of anybody having to put up put any skin 282 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: in the game to assure that you'll come back, you 283 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: just sign because you're good for it, because you're clearly 284 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: a trustworthy guy, they give him a PR bond, in. 285 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: Other words, just let him back out. 286 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: Thanks to Democrat Associate Judge ike O Kora four, the 287 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: Deer Park Police Association is pretty pissed about it. As 288 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 3: you might imagine, you got another bad guy out there 289 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 3: openly threatening to kill cops and being arrested and just 290 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 3: released ABC thirteen with the story. J. 291 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 12: Paul Gilliam told us today that he does not have 292 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 12: any intention of shooting Deer Park Police officers, despite posting 293 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 12: twenty five expletive laced videos within a matter of minutes 294 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 12: on Friday, threatening the officers and also saying that he 295 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 12: wanted them to die. Deer Park Police now left frustrated 296 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 12: that he was able to get out of jail so 297 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 12: quickly and return to his home. Here behind our camera, 298 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 12: just across the streets from this elementary school behind me. 299 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 12: If you look at the documentation that shows his violent tendencies, 300 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 12: his criminal. 301 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: History, the threats he made, that doesn't read. 302 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 12: Stable, which according to the Harris County pre Trial Services website, 303 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 12: stability is something a judge may consider when deciding if 304 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 12: someone is eligible for a personal bond, meaning they sign 305 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 12: their name and can leave jail without payment as long 306 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 12: as they agreed to show back up and associate. Judge 307 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 12: Ike okorafor granted a personal bond to this man, J. 308 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 12: Paul Gilliam less than seventy two hours after he posted 309 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 12: threats to Facebook look directed at Deer Park Police. 310 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: No mo're for for you, nover for for your family. No, 311 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: we're for for anybody. 312 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 13: No, you're gonna infectd because I'm gonna, in fact future 313 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 13: in your face. 314 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 12: Police were called on Gilliam Friday morning after he started 315 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 12: aggressively harassing a crossing guard at Dab's Elementary across from 316 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 12: his home. According to court records, he wasn't arrested then, 317 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 12: but he was arrested that night for retaliation once police 318 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 12: learned about the twenty five videos he made, threatening members 319 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 12: of Deer Park Police, their dispatchers, and even calling one 320 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 12: sergeant out by name, wanting to kill him, saying, if 321 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 12: you approach me, I'm gonna shoot you. 322 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna shoot you just once. I'm going to 323 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: shoot you in the chest. I hope you all die. 324 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 12: Originally, his bond was set at ten thousand dollars by 325 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 12: a magistrate and probable cause court, but then Associate Judge 326 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 12: Corps for granted him a personal bond, something the DA's 327 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 12: office specifically said they were opposed to. If his bond 328 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 12: had stayed at ten thousand dollars, he would have only 329 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 12: had to pay one thousand to get out, but dear 330 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 12: Park Police, that was still better. It gives the opportunity 331 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 12: that he is behind bars longer, he is no longer 332 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 12: on the streets. 333 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: It adds one extra layer. 334 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 12: Gilliam does have an extensive criminal history. His last violent 335 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 12: charge was in twenty twelve. Charging documents say he's a 336 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 12: known problem for Jab's elementary. We caught up with Gilliam 337 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 12: outside of his home on Wednesday afternoon. He told us 338 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 12: he suffers from mental illness and was off his medication 339 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 12: last Friday. You don't plan to do anything violent against 340 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 12: the crossing guard or the police department. 341 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 13: Nobody, Like I said, I don't even have a gun. Lady, 342 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 13: who's gonna give me a gun to go hurt? Somebody found? 343 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 13: Oh alric mad wanted to kill that. 344 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 12: We did reach out to the judge, but judges are 345 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 12: not allowed to comment on painting cases. 346 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: That rewind that. 347 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 3: You know, you've said that you're gonna kill the cops, 348 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: and you're posting about it constantly, But you're not gonna 349 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: kill the cops. 350 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no, I wouldn't. Who's gonna give me a gun? 351 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 3: That that's not the best defense. 352 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: No, no, I don't kill who gomember? That'd be crazy. 353 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: You got it. 354 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 12: Medication last Friday. You don't plan to do anything violent 355 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 12: against the crossing guard or the police department. 356 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 13: Nobody. I'm nover like I said, I don't even have 357 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 13: a gun. Lady, who's gonna give me a gunna go hurt? 358 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: Somebody? From oh I rate mad? 359 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 6: Wanted to kill that. 360 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 12: We did reach out to the judge, but judge it. 361 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: Hey, you're not gonna kill any cops, are you? No, 362 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: I've never uh no, I don't have a gun because 363 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 3: he knows. He can't say I've never hurt anybody because 364 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 3: it'll be easy. He knows he has a record, and 365 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: he probably figures being a reporter, she knows that as well. 366 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: You would, you're not gonna hurt anybody. No, I'm uh 367 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: uh Now, who how would I get a gun? I'm 368 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: not hurt? Because how would I get a gun? 369 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 13: I'm never like I said, I don't even have a gun. Lady, 370 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 13: who's gonna give me a gunna go hurt? 371 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: Somebody? From oh I rate mad? 372 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 6: I wanted to kill that. 373 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm over here. 374 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 8: I want him to die. 375 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna give me a gun. That doesn't happen. People 376 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: can't get a gun when they want to kill somebody. 377 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: That Come on, y'all, y'all being crazy. 378 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 6: Y'all crazy. 379 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 10: You can need to make informed decisions, and you're giving 380 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 10: them the into Michael Berry because you're a public Paul 381 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 10: Revere had to ring in the warning though. 382 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 9: You time. 383 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: And sometimes it's better, especially a song like this, Well 384 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 3: you don't know what it's about. I'm sure many of 385 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: you do. Elton John was engaged to be married and 386 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 3: beautiful woman, by the way, not surprising gay dudes. When 387 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 3: they get married, it's always beautiful. You ever noticed that? 388 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: And they'll marry an ugly woman. 389 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: And he's out drinking with his dear friend, Big John, 390 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 3: or a long time I think's Big John. I think 391 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 3: they call him Big John. In fact, that's why when 392 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: he created his stage name he used Elton John. The 393 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: john was from Big John, his buddy. So he's out 394 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: drinking with Big John and Bernie Taupin, who wrote the 395 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: lyrics to most of his early and big stuff. And 396 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 3: he does not want to get married. Of course we 397 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 3: now know he's homo, but I don't know if that 398 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: part was discussed or he just didn't want to get married. 399 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: And I read that his Beyonce. He comes home, he's 400 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: drunk and he says I'm not marrying you. I'm not 401 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 3: doing it, and so she moves to the US. They're 402 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: living in London. She moved to the US, gets married, 403 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 3: has three children, moves on with her life, and said 404 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: she had no hard feelings because well, he's home. 405 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't gonna work out anyway. 406 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 3: But she did say that she had a problem with 407 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 3: this line. You almost had your hooks in me, didn't you, 408 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: Dear You nearly had me roped and tied, alter bound 409 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: hypnotized sweet Freedom. Now what's interesting about that is Bernie 410 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 3: topin Poppin'. I've heard it pronounced both ways. It's Tau 411 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 3: wrote those lyrics, but most of his lyrics Elton John 412 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: would develop the music and he would put the music. 413 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: He put the lyrics behind it. 414 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: And I'm sorry reverse order, but he It would often 415 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: be based on stories that Elton John would tell it. 416 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: Bernie Topham would just would just write the lyrics around that. 417 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: But that would kind of hurt man. You went and 418 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: wrote a song about it. Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez 419 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: says violent juvenile crime is becoming a serious challenge in 420 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: Harris County. This after a thirteen year old girl is 421 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 3: arrested for stabbing a man and a fifteen. 422 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: Year old boy for three armed robberies in the Humble area. 423 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 3: Gonzalez wrote on social media, juvenile crime is a serious challenge. 424 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: We continue to see juveniles committing serious crimes and or 425 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: becoming victims themselves. Now we're seeing juveniles pulled into adult conflicts. 426 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: That lead to violence. 427 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: While the adult criminal justice system garners the most attention, 428 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: how do judges in the juvenile justice system determine whether 429 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 3: a youth requires incarceration or could be rehabilitated within their community. 430 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 3: Make no mistakes, some of these juveniles are dangerous offenders. 431 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: A thirteen year old girl stabbing a man, a fifteen 432 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: year old boy, not one armed robbery, not two armed robberies, 433 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: three armed robberies. Yeah, I think we have a problem. 434 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: I think we have a real problem. And I wonder 435 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: to what extent we've got some law enforcement focused on 436 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: things that aren't related to the real problem, like a 437 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: case of mistaken identity where you send somebody to jail 438 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: for thirty hours, and even when it's brought to your attention, 439 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: you still refuse to withdraw the arrest report. You got 440 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: a story for you coming up. You can't believe this 441 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: would happen. You cannot believe this would happen. And I 442 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: don't believe there are many deputies, police officers, or any 443 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: other law enforcement officers who would do what this guy did. 444 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: But what this guy did, oh my is it is 445 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: inexplicable and inexcusable. Meanwhile, dumb dumb Fortman County k P. George, 446 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: the Fort Bean County Judge k P. George, says he 447 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: received inappropriate treatment when he was booked in jail in 448 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: an open letter he sent to the media last week. 449 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: So kprctv's Mario Diaz investigated dumb Dumb's claim. Fort Ben 450 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: County Democrat Sheriff Eric Fagan calls out KP. George's last saying, 451 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: I'm just shocked and surprised that he would make a 452 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: statement that I feel. 453 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Like he knows isn't true. KPRC TV with the story. 454 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 14: Thank you for coming to find out the true fast 455 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 14: of what happened on that day. 456 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 4: Fort Ben County Sheriff Eric Fagan, expressing gratitude for what 457 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: KPRC two investigates first reported on clickto Houston on Tuesday. 458 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: If you recall County judge k P. 459 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: George made a. 460 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 4: Personal statement, including claims made by his office of an 461 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 4: unnecessary hold by ice. 462 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: His statement was false. 463 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: Fagan taking me inside his jail to show exactly what 464 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 4: George went through. 465 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: Does Fagan sound like I was young ambitious? Doesn't he? Doesn't? 466 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: He sound just like no, no, no, don't worry. We'll give 467 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: that to Jim. Jim's amaster of this. Just tell him 468 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: which audio clip that is. 469 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 3: The guy who was at family court. 470 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: I think it was in Tennessee. 471 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: He had over thirty children by as many women and 472 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: they asked him about it, and he said I was young, ambitious, 473 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 3: and the women behind him were just chuckeding away. 474 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: All right, finish up with shy. 475 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: Exactly what George went through last September. You know where 476 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: are we right now? 477 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: You're at the solid port. 478 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 14: This is where inmates come in when they first get arrested. 479 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 4: We saw the X ray machine that checks for weapons, 480 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 4: the screening area, the windows section where Judge George had 481 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: to divulge personal information, and where he was fingerprinted, even 482 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: where his mugshot was taken. Sheriff Fagan dismissing George's characterizations 483 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 4: that his deputies placed an unnecessary icehold on him. So 484 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: every person who is not a naturally born citizen, a 485 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: call goes to ICE. 486 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 14: Yes, is that a hold? No, that is not a hole. 487 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 14: That's a check. We've notified ICE at twenty fifteen, eight 488 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 14: fifteen at night, eight fifteen at night, at eight twenty five. 489 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 14: It came back no action. That means no. 490 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 4: Hold George, and a personal letter to the residents of 491 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 4: Fort ben County made it clear he was held for 492 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 4: almost three hours. Sheriff Fagan says, that's not true. 493 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 14: He was here for an hour and thirteen minutes. 494 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 4: No hold, no hold. How much faith do you have 495 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 4: in the county judge right now? 496 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 14: I'm just socked and surprised that he would make a 497 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 14: statement that I feel like he knew wasn't true. 498 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: Fagin says that the only thing that may have been 499 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 4: done different for George was that he did not have 500 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 4: to take off his pants and put on a full jumpsuit. 501 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 4: They only had him put on the standard shirt. Since 502 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 4: he turned himself in and his attorney was with him, 503 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 4: he also was set to bond down quickly. So what 504 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: was done is what routinely takes place in similar cases. 505 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 4: According to Fagan, m