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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, sixty two,

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Speaker 1: Episode one of Daily Like Guys to Buy a Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. And it's Monday, November, fifty some

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Speaker 1: odd days until January. My name is Jack O'Brien, a

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Speaker 1: k woke up this morning. My last name was O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: That is courtesy of the Pod Yourself Gun podcast. Now

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Speaker 1: that song is stuck in my head. I just did

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Speaker 1: the Pod yourself at all that Matt leave it out.

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Speaker 1: I think it's out this week. We'll be out by

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Speaker 1: the time that this episode that people are listening to

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Speaker 1: right now drops. But very fortunate to do the Pine

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Speaker 1: Barons episode of Sopranos, my favorite episode, the only Understode

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Speaker 1: that I knew the knew the title of uh and

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Speaker 1: it was a blast. People should check it out and

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Speaker 1: pod yourself and done. Hey, but who's that that I'm

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Speaker 1: talking can too? I'm thrilled to be joined dads. Always

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Speaker 1: buy my co host Mr Miles Miles Gray and don't

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Speaker 1: miss out on the savings on this cyber Mon Gray

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Speaker 1: so much, you know what I mean? Or saber whatever

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Speaker 1: the fun is going on. I just thought of that

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Speaker 1: right now. So shout out to myself, thank you, thank you. Welcome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: shout out to consumer capitalism creating this wonderful holiday for

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Speaker 1: all of us to enjoy. It's so unsettling because you

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Speaker 1: don't know, you know, as some look, I'm anna admit it.

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Speaker 1: I like a deal. You know, I'll be the first admitted.

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Speaker 1: I like to see you admit that. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't know this about me. I love this.

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Speaker 1: I love the savings. But when you start having cyber

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Speaker 1: Mondays and Black Fridays and all this other ship, I'm

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Speaker 1: put in paralysis because I'm like, well, when's the when

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Speaker 1: is the actual deal? Like what is happening? So I said,

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Speaker 1: fuck it, I just bought a bathrobe and I'm good.

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Speaker 1: M hm h miles. Before we uh introduce our guest,

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Speaker 1: let's tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna look at the evil ship that Trump is

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Speaker 1: just ramming through on his way out. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about fleets. We're gonna talk about shook dems. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about contemporary Christian art, uh and why it's so

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Speaker 1: bad all the time, and I'm I'm using the words

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Speaker 1: of Christian websites to determine that it's bad. They're like,

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Speaker 1: why is our art bad? We'll talk about Gerard and Vanka.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Kushner. I think that's what he should

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Speaker 1: do to try and rebrand Gerard Kushner. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about Clipper the Big Red Dog, all of that and

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Speaker 1: plenty more. But first we are thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented Veronica

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Speaker 1: Quick Caskey. Hey, I'm doing well. Yeah, you just shared

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Speaker 1: some news with us. Yeah, you guys. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: doing well, but I do currently have COVID. This is

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Speaker 1: the first for our Can we get an air horn there?

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Speaker 1: It's not ok Yeah, it's okay, so we can verify

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Speaker 1: now for anyone. Family members are like, it's not real.

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Speaker 1: Play this episode and be like this comedian has it?

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Speaker 1: So what now? Well, my dad or uncle or whoever

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Speaker 1: whomever you're having an argument with. Oh man, are at

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Speaker 1: a crowded Thanksgiving a table right now? I noticed, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's surrounded by relatives. Yeah, and there's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: old people in my living room very quiet, like I'm

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Speaker 1: recording only plastic utensils in paper plates, so because it

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Speaker 1: makes sounds, but you're doing okay physically, Like I know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's tough to be to be ill. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay. I thankfully that I have very thankful that

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Speaker 1: I have a very mild case. I think I have

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Speaker 1: a little bit of COVID brain, so hopefully I like

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Speaker 1: put sentences together. But yeah, kind of just like tired,

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Speaker 1: for people. Yeah, it's so different, but the taste and

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Speaker 1: smell thing really seems to be like consistent. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: nearly like it's weird. Okay, now that you you can

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Speaker 1: indulge all my curiosity. I mean I have a few

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Speaker 1: of my friends also had COVID and said the same thing.

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Speaker 1: But are we talking your full blown your taste buds

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Speaker 1: just on mute? Nothing like I can eat an onion

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Speaker 1: right now, and it's not like just nothing I drank

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Speaker 1: this morning. I drank orange juice after brushing my teeth.

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Speaker 1: Didn't even notice. You're just doing all the things that

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Speaker 1: taste bad, Like I can't do anything eating cigarettes for

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Speaker 1: no reason. I had a dark chocolate bar and then

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Speaker 1: a bunch of passion fruit juice that bad, bad combo.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just like whenever I have chocolate

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Speaker 1: very well, it's just something about when you have like

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Speaker 1: What have you been eating to somewhat? Is there? Like

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Speaker 1: mean I can. I can sense like spices. So I

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Speaker 1: it's like spicy foods. Like I'm but having a lot

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Speaker 1: And I was like, what's the point, bitch's gonna do

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Speaker 1: I think the default is to assume that would just

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Speaker 1: eat healthy because you can't taste anything. But like the

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Speaker 1: like the guy from Ben and Jerry's like the he

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Speaker 1: So it's like there's something yeah he did. Yeah, one

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Speaker 1: but texture is a big like that. That's why they

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Speaker 1: some textures. Shout out to either of you. Alright, Veronica,

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Speaker 1: let's get to something from your search history. Uh that's

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Speaker 1: revealing about who you are, what you're up to. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think everything I'm going to have for you is

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Speaker 1: probably related to my COVID, But uh, I googled the

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Speaker 1: for two years? Really? Okay? Everything I've reading said that

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Speaker 1: who's this person? And then I keep getting mad that

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Speaker 1: then I'm like, wait this because this like is real,

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Speaker 1: I've done that in other movies where like, you know,

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Speaker 1: dates for that person, like no, no, no, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: something that they say happens with daylight Savings time. Bringing

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Speaker 1: it back to my pet subject, but they when it

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Speaker 1: it felt more aggressive? Yes? I fucking hate it. And

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Speaker 1: I really, I really hate it? Thank you? What is

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Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Okay? The Bachelor? Hear me out?

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Speaker 1: Hear me out? Well, I like that show. I just

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Speaker 1: that just get overshadowed, and I just don't think The

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Speaker 1: Bachelor is the best one. I'm sorry. Okay, that's married

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Speaker 1: at first sight, fiance love is blind love exactly? You

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Speaker 1: get it? Yes, I mean The Bachelor. I've just gotten

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Speaker 1: into The Bachelor because Superproducer and Anna Hoose Nat does

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Speaker 1: will you accept this Rose? With arda Marine? And I

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Speaker 1: went on but like I've never seen it, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: that's great, watch like one of these goat like when

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Speaker 1: see like, oh yeah, when you start watching it, there

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Speaker 1: is this fun to it because it's just such a mess.

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Speaker 1: But that I feel like The Bachelor isn't really like

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Speaker 1: a reality like dating or like reality romance show. It's

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Speaker 1: a game show that's just a mess and it's full

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Speaker 1: of drama. So, like you, like the real dynamics of relationships,

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Speaker 1: I don't think are as present like the shows you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, the married at first sights in the ninety days,

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Speaker 1: because people know how to game the Bachelor slash Bachelorette

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Speaker 1: or like they know what the sequence can be when

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Speaker 1: you go far in the show. Maybe, yeah, then maybe

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Speaker 1: that like this is what will be in the history books,

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00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: you know, like he's like, I'll be remembered for all

423
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: of this. He likes. He's fucking crazy. Yeah, in that

424
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: way where it's like he yeah, no matter what infamy

425
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: or you know, love or whatever, it's like it doesn't

426
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: even register the difference. It's like no, my name is

427
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: coming out of people's mouths. I win. Publicity is good publicity,

428
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: even if it's going down in history as a monster.

429
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: But then he's so thin skinned, you know this, it's

430
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: such a contradictory, fucked up you know, person, we're at

431
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: the fun We're just waiting, we like, don't funk this

432
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: up for the whole earth, because we've somehow allowed like

433
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: one person to you know, if they want to completely

434
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: funk up the whole earth, Like if you wanted to

435
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: be like fuck it, you know, just just have it

436
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: rain nukes. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I don't

437
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: want to go to jail, Like nobody's gonna go, like

438
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: who knows. You know. It's just really alarming. In case

439
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: there was any doubt that these policies are sprouting directly

440
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: from Trump's brand, The Department of Energy is racing to

441
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: loosen the efficiency standards for showers and washing machines, which

442
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: is like a thing he specifically was saying. That's like

443
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: one of his bits from rallies about do you ever

444
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: get under a shower and no water comes out? And me,

445
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: I want that hair to be so beautiful. That's a

446
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: direct quote from his rallies water comes out. I don't

447
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: think that's a a Department of Energy efficiency standard. If

448
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: you turn on your shower and no water comes out,

449
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: I think my man just doesn't know how to use

450
00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: a shower. I mean image or that's a that's a lamp.

451
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: Are we gonna hear something about windows? Because I was

452
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: another thing he was loving to talk about in the

453
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: during the campaign was about how tiny the windows are

454
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: going to be if if socialism takes over and there

455
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: he's tiny windows, Like are there now? Is there a

456
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: new gigantic standard for windows? He hasn't been able to

457
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: force that one through. Uh damn. He will make it

458
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: so that our washing machines and our showers lead to

459
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: higher consumption and waste. So shout out to the Trump administration.

460
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: I wonder how that's gonna work, right, because, like I

461
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: get you can do that, but like when you're a

462
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: business has been so used to making a product one way,

463
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: are they gonna be like, oh, thank god, we can

464
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: start making these like less efficient machines, just specifically in

465
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: this washing machine shower instance, Like are they really are

466
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: they dying for this thing to be changed because the

467
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: problem that that begins to be like oh great, we

468
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: can now use this cheaper stuff or whatever. I don't know.

469
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm just curious off, you know, because I think people

470
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: are going to be clamoring that there show. I don't

471
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: know what the consumer side of it is. I guess

472
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: the only thing is that they're probably saying it's cheaper

473
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: for us to make them super wasteful and then we

474
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: can make money in charge the same amount. And Trump

475
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: just needs to tweet, you know, little water pressure will

476
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: make your gay and the damn liberal and then everyone

477
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: will be like yeah, yeah. Everyone goes out to like

478
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: their main like uh, like a waterline to the city,

479
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and they're like just taking the regulator off, like no,

480
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: I need this ship coming out like fucking who knows what? Yeah, um,

481
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be

482
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back. Uh. And ever since they

483
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: introduced fleets a week and a half ago, I've been

484
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: actively avoiding paying attention to them. What what how they're

485
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: being implemented. But uh, Miles, you're saying that they're fucked

486
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: misinformation spreas. I mean like, yeah, you know, Twitter is

487
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: already a cess pit when it comes to this kind

488
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: of nonsense. Um, and if you like, you know, interested

489
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: cybersecurity people, journalists were tinkering around and they were saying

490
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: like they were able to do ship like you know,

491
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: putting banned U r L s or videos and things

492
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: that are normally, if you put on them on Maine

493
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: or on the timeline on regular Twitter, that ship would

494
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: get fucking just be like flagged, gone whatever, um and so.

495
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: But on fleets they're like, I was able to do

496
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: this ship undisturbed. The ship was up for twenty four hours.

497
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: It's gone, And that's great if that's what your aim is.

498
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: And they're sort of pointing to the fact that if

499
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: your whole thing is about misinformation, these fleets are like

500
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: really really really hard to deal with because normally, you know,

501
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: a lot of the people who are doing debunking on Twitter,

502
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: like it's easy to go through someone's tweets, their text

503
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: they're right there, I can, well, I can fucking you know,

504
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: screen grab whatever and debunk it from there. This ship

505
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: it's gone after twenty four hours, so I don't like

506
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: they don't know, people don't know where the conversation is

507
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: at on accounts that are spreading misinformation. And the other

508
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: thing is that allows like followers of the account to

509
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: just iterate on top of it and amplify it like

510
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: they would a retweet. Not that that's a feature of it,

511
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: but that behavior is more seen on Twitter than it

512
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: is on Instagram. So they're saying, like, bringing this kind

513
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: of thing to the Twitter Twitter sphere is just causing

514
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: It's they see the potential because right now I think

515
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: people are just kind of like tinkering around with it,

516
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: but just in the same way that we saw how

517
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: like closed Facebook groups and like i G stories were

518
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: getting people all kinds of hyped up in the Pacific

519
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Northwest during the uprisings, if you remember, because they were

520
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: like Antiopa is coming to burn our fucking village down,

521
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: and people were like, you know, pulling up with a

522
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: R S and ship because of this you know bullshit

523
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: they heard on Facebook doing like checks checkpoints with where

524
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: they were checking arm uh cars for for Antifa with

525
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: guns like pointed at people. Yeah. And so they're saying,

526
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: now with this, you're looking at the same issue coming

527
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: out um but in a different environment where people are

528
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: even more into spreading misinformation as well. And there was

529
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: another uh someone this guy who wrote this book called

530
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: Like War, which is just about how social media has

531
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: been weaponized in politics, like very specifically is what this

532
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: guy's book is about. He was saying that they were

533
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: they had been testing this in March in Brazil, like

534
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: on Brazilian Twitter at first, and he was now just

535
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: pointing out about Twitter quote so much of their system

536
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: and actuality relies not on their own AI and content moderators,

537
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: but on fellow users and researchers to flag violators. With fleets,

538
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: researchers won't be able to see and track as much.

539
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: So they're saying, like the fleets could be a new

540
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, playground for all this stuff. Why, like, what

541
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: is the idea behind this because there al already having

542
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: to more closely regulate like the ship that people are

543
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: posting on their platform. Why would they think that it's

544
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: a good idea to create a lane where there's less accountability. Well,

545
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: because they're not looking at it like that, you know,

546
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: they're looking at it as like this is a feature

547
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: we need to introduce to get more engagement. You know,

548
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: it's not. It's always after the fact because now you

549
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: know there it's you're now just creating it, Like you're saying,

550
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: another lane for people to put extremist content up at

551
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: a rate that's worse than on Twitter, when at least

552
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: that's out in the open. You can search on Twitter

553
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: certain ship and it will bring you the tweets. Fleets

554
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: is completely just like you got to know where to

555
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: go now r And that's and I think that's the

556
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: biggest concern in terms of misinformation. Do you guys have fleets?

557
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: Do you have access to fleets? Everyone? Does? I do?

558
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I you know, I hadn't even like thought

559
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: about this implication of it. I was just like, oh,

560
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: is this like another place where like gets with photos

561
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: of our tips, like what's going on? And then that

562
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: was I feel like also around when Instagram did that update,

563
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: which makes it like total trash now, so I just

564
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they're trying to compete with Instagram, but

565
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: this is horrifying and makes me not want to use it. Yeah,

566
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: it's and I think, who it's a different audience again

567
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: to like Instagram. You know, you can post something personal

568
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: and like people aren't Suddenly people are jumping and be

569
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: like what the funk is that? Twitter is different? Like

570
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 1: if people come across your fleets or something, It's not

571
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: the same audience. As your Instagram or people who don't

572
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: know your account, all kinds of interactions can occur there.

573
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, like if I don't see anyone using it

574
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: that interestingly, because it's just I think the conversation started

575
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: off as like, okay, Twitter, nice, try like you're not

576
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: Instagram or fucking snapchat anymore. But that's why now I

577
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: think cybersecurity people like, I know, the first take on

578
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: this was like ha ha ha, but they're like, we

579
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: also really need to keep an eye on this because

580
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, if you've ever played the Supernintendo

581
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: game F Zero, they're like little strips that will launch

582
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: your car even faster. That's like what this does for

583
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: misinformation because it's just like accelerating it. There's no accountability,

584
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: there's no guardrails. So is there even a way to

585
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: flag a fleet. I'm sure there is, yeah, probably, yeah, yeah,

586
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: But I think in terms of yeah, it's just it's

587
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: it's a completely different process, and you know, it's the

588
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: normal journalists and other misinformation sort of debunker people who

589
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: are kind of out there getting ahead of stuff. For like, dude,

590
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how to find people's fleets, like, especially

591
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: if there's these closed groups or people know, like it

592
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: has some weird esoteric handle, but they just checked the fleets,

593
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: like what that what's going on there? So yeah, it's evolving. Well,

594
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: whenever they roll that out to everybody, that's going to

595
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: be really dangerous, very worried. Yeah, you wouldn't even notice

596
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: it because it's so even if you opened your app now,

597
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: like I forget use Twitter. I don't even I didn't

598
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: even notice really, like you don't have those circles at

599
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: the top branches like think I do. Yeah, the check

600
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: out her to stop this deal. Oh boy, have you

601
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: guys used it in a way that like you found

602
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: useful or have you used it at all? I can

603
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: I barely use stories usefully. Yeah, I've put up like

604
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: just like when I've tweeted something, I've then put it

605
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: to my fleet and really all it's gotten me is

606
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: just creepy guys being like can I buy a photo

607
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: of your feet? And I'm like, you can, yes, but

608
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: I didn't notice this. You know your way in you can,

609
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: but stay with your chest put it on Twitter and

610
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: not Yeah, coward. I am curious how long it will

611
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: last outside of like disinformation spreading, because it seems like

612
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: most people, at least in my circle, are kind of like, Okay,

613
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: that's that's cool for a day. Yeah, And those are

614
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: the tools that other people like end up like really loving,

615
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, just like the Facebook, like people younger people

616
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: like all right, I'm I'm kind of sick of seeing

617
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: like what my old classmates are up to, and then

618
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: other people like, no, but it's the best place to

619
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: like just talk unchained shit about anything, the best place

620
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: to find out about the steel. Yeah. I was just

621
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: reading a thing about the CIA, like how the CIA

622
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: helped the Jakarta like take over of where in Indonesia

623
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: that were just like killing anybody who had non like

624
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: super right wing beliefs. And one of the things they

625
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: did was just make it possible for the military like

626
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: dictatorship to communicate with each other like across big swaths

627
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: of Like that's such an important thing to like have

628
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: immediate communication, and like that's basically how they aided in

629
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: the overthrow. So like the fact that now everyone has

630
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: that and it's completely uh, you know, disposable and goes

631
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: away after a second, like I don't know, Yeah, it

632
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: just underlines again what democrats need to do if they're

633
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: willing to actually, you know, do something that's so good

634
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Speaker 1: for the country is to start kicking these social media

635
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: platforms in the fucking teeth and being like, yo, you

636
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: need to clean this ship the funk up, Like it's

637
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: not if we really need to get ahold of someone

638
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: real quickly, Like we have ways to do that, and

639
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: like Twitter is useful to a point, but they need

640
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: to figure out what that point is and then really,

641
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: you know, to handle this this this ship. Um well,

642
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: speaking of Democrats, what where where are are they? Like?

643
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: What are they doing? Other? I mean, I know Biden

644
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: is like announcing a bunch of like dream team of

645
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: the of Obama officials for his cabinet, But what what

646
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: And I say that not seriously, I don't think it's

647
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: a dream team, But um what what is the rest

648
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party up as the president like continues

649
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: to have I mean, let's just walk over to the

650
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: ray Burn Building on Capitol Hill and knock on just

651
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: the Democratic leadership boards and let's see how then what

652
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: do we here? Huh Oh that's not good. Oh god,

653
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: there shook there shook ones over there on the Democratic

654
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: side of the hill. I don't know what to say

655
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: about this. Y'all um. I had to just talk about

656
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: this because there's I can't handle this ship. I was

657
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: reading this article in The New Republic just talking about

658
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: like the Dems are already like caving like in ways

659
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: that we're not really seeing up front. But they pointed

660
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: out that U mon Uraju on CNN, I said, like

661
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: talking about like where have they where have they been

662
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: during all of this soft coup, like white collar coup

663
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: ship that's been going on, Like have just been like

664
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: just sitting on their hands, And I could not really

665
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: be like firing up opposition outrage as you know, leaders

666
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: of the party. This is what Roger said, quote. Democrats

667
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: are trying to avoid turning Trump's refusal to accept the

668
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: election results into a partisan fight, believing Trump will be

669
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: in an untenable position if more Republicans joined their calls

670
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: to let the transition officially begin, as the president's legal

671
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: case continues to collapse and states begin certifying the election results. Moreover,

672
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: seeking to enforce subpoenas to administration officials who play a

673
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: key role in the transition process could take weeks to

674
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: play out if the White House fights them, potentially going

675
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: beyond January when Biden will be sworn into office. So

676
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: their whole plan was this is like whoa, let's not

677
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: like put up too much of a fight. So then

678
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: they don't put up too much of a fight, but

679
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: we'll let them continue to break everything apart and smash

680
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: it to bits because we don't want to make this

681
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: look like a partisan fight. It there couldn't be more

682
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: partisan than this. Uh So I'm again, I'm like, wow,

683
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: they've they're underlining the fact that they don't want any

684
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: kind of smoke ever. They just they have We have

685
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: one party in this country that is so into their

686
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: agenda that they will literally kill Americans to get it done,

687
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: and another party that is so obsessed with appearing nice

688
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: that they actually do fuck all. And you're like, what, how,

689
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: what is is this leadership? What is this? What are you?

690
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: Are you and are you in opposition or you're just

691
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: being like no, like it'll just be so bad. He'll

692
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: have to do the right thing, and we shouldn't be

693
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: communicating to people outwardly as well that this is something

694
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: fucked up and there he's doing active damage to you know,

695
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: this entire system. Yet we need Pelosi fure like this

696
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: is so infuriating. Yeah. Yeah, they're just like addicted to

697
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: triangulation and being like, okay, well so they're doing that,

698
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: so we're gonna like be over here like slightly to

699
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: left them, and they're gonna mess each other up. They

700
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: completely allow the Republicans to dictate the agenda and dictate

701
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: like everything. How could it possibly be a bad thing too,

702
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: like call attention and to politicize something where they're just

703
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: the Republicans are just standing by letting Trump try to

704
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: overthrow democracy in the country like that's an unwinnable argument.

705
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: And and well, because they're saying I think the logic

706
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: is that if they start coming out being like you

707
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: need to do this, then that gives him Twitter at

708
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: Ammo to start being like you see what they're doing,

709
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: You see what's going on. But it's like he's gonna

710
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: do that too. He'll find someone to blame no matter what.

711
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: So why not be like, yeah, fuck it, I'll take

712
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: that fight, and we can have it out right here,

713
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: and I'll keep clapping back rather than being like, I

714
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: don't know, let the courts do it. And and and

715
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 1: they can get like the brunt of the attention and

716
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: it's just you don't want the energy of someone who's

717
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be on your side in the fight for

718
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: your life. To have big energy, you need that. You

719
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: need people be like they're like doing fucking pull ups

720
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: on street lights and ship be like what they said,

721
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: what get them over here? Like that's what the funk

722
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: you need, because they are they are hell bent on

723
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: doing as much destruction as possible. I think it's fair

724
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: to like fight fire with fire when the stakes are

725
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: this high, you know, and it's like, they don't ever

726
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: do that, and you're like, right, I mean you fire

727
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: with fire safety lessons. Yeah, Democrats are gonna turn the

728
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: other cheek to the point that their neck is going

729
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: to snap off and their head is going to fall off,

730
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: because they're like, just I'll just no, doesn't We'll take that,

731
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: and we'll take that, and we'll take that because at

732
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: least we're not the people doing that. We're just the

733
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: people not standing up for the people who are actually

734
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: the victims of this nonsense because they are not. And

735
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: I think it's easier for them to take this strategy

736
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: when none of the negative ramifications directly affect them, And

737
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: it's it's just fucking weird to see like over the

738
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: last four years. Truly at this point, this has pointed

739
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: out in this New Republic article, activists on Twitter have

740
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: basically been outsmarting the Republicans more than these decrepit monkey

741
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: skeletons that we have in Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. Like,

742
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: how are these you know, uh, Twitter accounts who are

743
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: even being like, well, fuck it. If they don't do it,

744
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: why don't we go after people who fund or give

745
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: money to or outfit their events and put pressure on

746
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: them to disengage from them. And they do, and that's

747
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: caused the party problems as well. So it's weird to

748
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: see more of this, like the people like people who

749
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: are actually out here are doing a better job, you know,

750
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: taking on the Republicans and the Democrats are and we

751
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: saw that through all these you know, hearings and non

752
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: impeachments or i don't know, kid glove nonsense throughout the

753
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: last four years. But and then they act like the

754
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: reason that they didn't have more success in the election

755
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: was because people wouldn't listen to them and be a moderate.

756
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: And it's so yeah, frustrating. I mean, it's it's there

757
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: even if you just look, even though it's not the

758
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: same party. Donald Trump had the doing pull ups on

759
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: the street light energy, you know, for better or worse,

760
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: and people saw that They're like, thank god, I just

761
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: need somebody to come in and start fucking swinging. I

762
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: don't care what if I get hit either way. I

763
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: just want to see this ship. This this you're seeing that,

764
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: Like as we see these new generation of politicians enter

765
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: politics as well, it's the same energy. These are street fighters.

766
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: These are people who are fucking have been, you know,

767
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: doing Hoddukans on the street against the in an activist capacity,

768
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: and they understand, like that's what it takes to like

769
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: get people to move them out of the apathy column,

770
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: and then too, the engagement column. Is that you see like,

771
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: oh they're active, I'll be active too. If they're passive

772
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: and like, who don't know, we'll probably they're just gonna

773
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: make a mess of it themselves. Then that's the that's

774
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: that's what you're that's the energy you're giving your base too.

775
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like, well, the you know, like what, let

776
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: them tear each other apart and we'll just be yeah, alright,

777
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back,

778
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: and we're back and uh yeah, So I started thinking

779
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: about like contemporary Christian art because of the Sopranos. I

780
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: was watching the Sopranos part where Janits is like in

781
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: the contemporary Christian music scene, and it was just like

782
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: it's so uh, it's just interesting. Like I started thinking

783
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: about like how just consistently bad Christian art has been

784
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: for like a century. I don't know, it's been a

785
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: long time. And it's like it's an easy, like butt

786
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: of a joke online to like show the pictures or

787
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: the drawings of like jesus Us like carrying people out

788
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: of the Twin Towers on nine eleven or whatever, like

789
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: sticking his arm in front of a junkie so that

790
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: like he's taking their heroin for the junkie. But like

791
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: I actually think it's it's at the core of like

792
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: one of our biggest national problems, like the whole culture war.

793
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: Like I feel like the Protestant like sort of right

794
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: wing the fact that they like don't have culture or

795
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: like art that we can respect causes like a resentment

796
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: because we're dismissive of their art, and then they resent

797
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: uh our art, I think, and resent us, and like

798
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: think that there's like a war on their culture. Yeah. Second,

799
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Speaker 1: I think you're acting like we have check out our

800
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: daily zeitgeist Christian contemporary art works evangelicals, because we have

801
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: sweat no, just like sec their art in general. Like

802
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: there I hadn't really done a ton of research into.

803
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: Like I grew up around some people like when I

804
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: lived in Kentucky who were like part of this uh

805
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: more like Baptist Protestant Southern Baptist ethic where you wouldn't

806
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: you couldn't listen to secular music. You would just listen

807
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: to like uh, there's apparently a chart that they had

808
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: in like Christian record stores that was like if you

809
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: like Dr Dre, then you'll love d C Talk, Yeah,

810
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: like a way to transition people off of that secular music. Yeah.

811
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: And but like there's also you know, uh, what's the

812
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: what's that Paul Sheer movie thing? How did this get made?

813
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: Like sometimes covers like these Christian movies and like like

814
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: they're they're somewhat successful when they come out, like on

815
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: a budget of like a small budget, they'll make ten

816
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: million dollars or something, but they're always just ridiculous and

817
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: like fully reviled. And like so I I started searching this,

818
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: like what how does like what is the most dominant

819
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: like probably the most dominant culture in America And you know,

820
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: like Christians are they're not the majority, but they're probably

821
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: the plurality of like the vague white Christianity for sure.

822
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: Jesus and White. Okay, Yeah, there's so so many of

823
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: them in America and like as a rule, every piece

824
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: of art that they make is bad. Um, And so like, yeah,

825
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: I was doing research and this is something that they're

826
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: writing about, Like I think they're aware of it, like

827
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: in these Christian blogs like that. That's what comes up

828
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: when you search like why is Christian contemporary art so

829
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: consistently bad? And they're like yeah, you know, the their

830
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: diagnosis is interesting because they, I think get some of

831
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,479
Speaker 1: it right. They talk about like how, um, they got

832
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: locked into sort of a weird Al Yankovic occation of

833
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: art where they would like take secular art and just

834
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: do like the religious version of that. Like it's because

835
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: they've like failed on like the educational front, like just

836
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: to encourage really like deep critical thinking, and everything just

837
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: goes back to like this very simplistic, normative judgment. Like

838
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: one of the people was saying that they focus on

839
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: having the answer as opposed to like the mystery of life,

840
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: which like the mystery and the questions or what drives

841
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: art as opposed to like just being like, oh no,

842
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: it's a simple yes no answer. But yeah, I don't know.

843
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you're an artist, Veronica, what do you think?

844
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: What is it about it? I had? I did just

845
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: google Christian art and yeah it's not good it all.

846
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: It's also like it it's so it's like it's all

847
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: evolving off of the same tree and no one's branching out,

848
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, no one's taking a bit of cubism or

849
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: being like introducing like a bau House aesthetic into their

850
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like because if that's art,

851
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: you're there to express yourself. But like it seems like

852
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: they already limit sort of visually what is possible if

853
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: you're doing Christian art. Yeah, it seems like they're just

854
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: not encouraged like think outside the box or try new things,

855
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: which I feel like to be good at art. You know. Boom,

856
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: that's what it is, right, Like the lack of challenging

857
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: your your norms or your beliefs in the process of

858
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: making your own art. I mean, that's The other thing, too,

859
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: is how dedicated you are as an artist to your work,

860
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: because there are plenty of There are plenty of works

861
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: by non religious artists that are Christian themed that are

862
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: really good. Like Hendy Wiley is an amazing painter who

863
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: regularly has themes of Christianity like intertwined in his works,

864
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: like whether that's like sort of stained glass pieces or

865
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: like doing one for one versions of like older paintings

866
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: that were depictions of Christ and just swapping them out

867
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: with like African American people that like they still have power,

868
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: Like there's a I don't know, like it's just so

869
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: funny that they but people who aren't you know, specifically

870
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: Christian artists are still able to evoke things about religion

871
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: through their art. So why doesn't it len somebody rip off, HINDI,

872
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 1: where are these? You know, like like people plenty people

873
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: rip other artists off, just start ripping off fucking good art.

874
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: Like that's growing up as like a movie fan. The

875
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: best like times I saw a movie address faith was

876
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: like Contact. I love Contact, but like that's that's a

877
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: movie by a scientist about like religious face that it's

878
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: not like the you know, Christian churches like doctrine. So like,

879
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure it would be like kicked out of the

880
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: conversation if like you brought it to uh you know,

881
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: into this Protestant aesthetic. And then like, I you can

882
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: count on me that movie like has a priest that

883
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: is like just allows for the mystery of like faith

884
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: and like religion and isn't just like yeah, this is

885
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: the answer. And that was like mind blowing because I

886
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: you just never see religion in that context in American art.

887
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: But I think that dude who made that as like

888
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: a latched Catholic and like that you just the thing

889
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: that they were saying in this podcast I listened to

890
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: where it was like all these Protestant like dudes who

891
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: were like they were saying all the things you're saying

892
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: that like they have set their sights too low low standards. Uh,

893
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: they're just like all responding to whatever is put before

894
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: them and not you know, uh, they're they're focused on

895
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 1: the message rather than like the aesthetic. But then when

896
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: they try to explain or like come up with a solution,

897
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: it becomes like we are the bearers of God's image

898
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: and Genesis says creation is good, and it's just like

899
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 1: they get short circuited by this like normative judgmental thing.

900
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: And I think like thinking going into a piece of

901
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: a work of art thinking that you're going to like

902
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: pass judgment on something is like not, I don't know.

903
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: It feels very like reductive and like the opposite of creativity.

904
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't like the best art pieces you look at,

905
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: they they are sort of they have this ability to

906
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: be nebulous and abstract, even if the form on the

907
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: canvas or the image is very specific, that the composition

908
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: and whatever the colors just bring something out of you

909
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: that you just are like, huh, you know, like that's

910
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: the first step. It's just to be like this is interesting.

911
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: But if it's just a literal Yeah, if there's just

912
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: a literal and like representation of this thing of like

913
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: Jesus holding a baby whatever you like, Okay, yeah, what sure?

914
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: And there's no like there's no ability to begin questioning

915
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: anything as you look at it, whether not that you

916
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: have to question the exist sense of Christ or whether

917
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: they're the Father, the Son of God or whatever. But

918
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: he could even be for yourself of your own there's

919
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: just something about it that doesn't allow even for that,

920
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: Like there's no introspection. I don't know. I feel like

921
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: good art gets your mind going and sort of challenge you,

922
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: challenges you on some level. And that's my personal take

923
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: on like what the art the kind of art I

924
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: respond to specifically, it's different for other people. But I

925
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: think that's the thing that's also missing, because the nature

926
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: of working within a religious framework is to not question

927
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: anything at all, like it's all the answers are given.

928
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: So then we're kind of like, how can you How

929
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: could a Christian artist wrestle with their relationship with Christ

930
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 1: in a painting, you know, because then that that would

931
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: encourage other Christian people to think of, like, am I

932
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: also wrestling with my relationship whether that's good or bad?

933
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: But like it's can't introduce anything like that. It has

934
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: to be like, dude, I don't know if you saw

935
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: that dude, Christ was walking with that guy on the

936
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: beach full and was carrying him. Okay, that that is

937
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: the definitive piece of Christian art of the past, like

938
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: the beach but steps, yeah, come on better. One thing

939
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: like tying it back to the current cultural moment, uh,

940
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: was there's this BBC article about this question and they

941
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: were talking about that moment. Do you remember when there

942
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: was like Piss Christ that was just a photograph of

943
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: like a cup of pists with like a crucifix in it.

944
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: But then there was also a painting. Uh, these were

945
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: like big modern art pieces. There was a painting of

946
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: the Virgin Mary and that was painted with elephant shit

947
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: and the It was like late nineties, early two thousands.

948
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: And the person who was like the central like critic

949
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: critic of like the ability to show these works of

950
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: art was Rudy Giuliani. Like that's he was like because

951
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: they were in New York museums. He like took center stage,

952
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: was like this is on a acceptable get the funk

953
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: out of here. It was like one of the first

954
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: times when you started seeing like the cultural conversation around

955
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: him be like, wait, what the fund is this guy's deal?

956
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: Like um ok, yeah, but it's like he's passing judgment

957
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: on He's like this is it's just like that normative

958
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: like thinking you get to say what's good and bad

959
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: is like the it's like art is deathly allergic to that.

960
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, yeah, well, we can't solve all

961
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: your problems for you, Christian art world. Um, I know,

962
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: but like I want them to solve our problem for

963
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: us and start creating art that is good, that like

964
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: the whole that will cross over so we can all

965
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, no, that's good man, Like good for

966
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: you guys, and great now, like you don't have to

967
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: feel like you have a chip on your shoulder about

968
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: fucking the sopranos or if it's that. I mean, it's

969
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: so many things. But I think just already when you

970
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: get caught up in this thing of like I'm the

971
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: operating within a religious environment just because I went to school,

972
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: like in things like that, just people, some people are

973
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: just so already kind of cut off from having any

974
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: thoughts that would challenge you or you would have growth

975
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: or an evolution in general, I mean we are the

976
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: theory of evolution is already taboo to these people. So

977
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: the idea that like I'm just thinking of, like how

978
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: any person operates from when they're trying to create something

979
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: like artistically, you're it's your moments of inspiration typically are

980
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: born out of changes in your life or growth or

981
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: failure or things, and you're using that to be like,

982
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: oh wow, I have this energy to express in a

983
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: certain way. If you're kind of one note because you're like,

984
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: it's all good. Christ got my back, the devil is bad,

985
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: and let's do this year after year. Your art is

986
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: already having a discussion with something like that in your life.

987
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't see much. I already don't. There's not much

988
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: change or you know, evolution, there's no there's nothing influx there.

989
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: It's very constant. Yeah, and you're also sort of operating

990
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: off the geto, like within a certain set of rules,

991
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: and like art has no rules, maybe you know, yeah, right,

992
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to reject those rules to

993
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 1: make it. Like so I was thinking of like Catholic

994
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: example of like good art and like the whole study albums.

995
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: Separation Sunday is like about Catholicism, and it's like very

996
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: like thoroughly about religion, like or with Judaism a simple man?

997
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: Or is that a serious man? And like these are

998
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: about religion and they're like also brilliant works of art

999
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: that like, you know, you can you can be explicitly

1000
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: about the religion the questions that arise from that religion

1001
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: without like being I don't know, so just simple. I

1002
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: want to see lit Christian art too, you know, I

1003
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: want to be like you know I want to see

1004
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: lit everything art. Yeah, just a color at us. And

1005
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't mean to be like dismissive, because I'm not

1006
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: trying to be dismissive at all. I'm I'm not saying

1007
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: you are. I'm I'm only really speaking for myself because

1008
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: I sort of felt that I'm the way I'm talking

1009
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: about it seems sort of across the board dismissive of

1010
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: someone's beliefs or belief system. But yeah, I would. I

1011
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what the answer is because

1012
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: I've grown up seeing the same five fucking posters of

1013
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: framed works of art in right threan in Catholic schools,

1014
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, damn, sh it is so dry, bro, Like,

1015
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: just get that hot air balloon fucking photo up that

1016
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: says like perseverance, Like that ship is hitting harder than

1017
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: this taking a long walk on the beach with this dude.

1018
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: That painting of Jesus that is like, you know, blue eyed, uh,

1019
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: light brown haired Jesus. That's I think I think I

1020
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: read somewhere it's the most reproduced piece of art like

1021
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: in the world, in the history of the world. Uh,

1022
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: And it's just like some dude like painted it in

1023
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: the early twentieth century and it just like happened, not

1024
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: any sort of great master's painting. It's just like, yeah,

1025
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: that that'll do. I mean if I even think of

1026
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: like their Basquiat uh like images of like Christ you

1027
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean, are abstract and freaky, but they

1028
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: do something to you because at least in that one

1029
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: there's something it. It'll bring some kind of feeling of

1030
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: like fear or something out of it too, because it's

1031
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: not like Smiley, you know, a white guy with blue eyes,

1032
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: like he feels a little more all encompassing of what

1033
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: life is rather than just sort of myopically looking at

1034
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: like this very nice, polished quaff hair guy with the

1035
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: six pack. Yeah. I don't know, but I do. I

1036
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: do demand that Jesus stays ripped because he always has

1037
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: to be hot and look for us. You know. Yeah,

1038
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: that might be steff one. Would that be too subversive

1039
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: if a Christeners like I honestly think this is a

1040
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: little bit better for with like love handles and a

1041
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: little true because I'm I mean, I would love me,

1042
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: I would I would why to documentary about the genesis

1043
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: part of the Sorry for the crossover pun there, but

1044
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: of ripped Jesus depictions like who who began that? And

1045
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: like I'm sure was there controversy around that. Did anyone

1046
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: trying to do like maybe a little scrown your Jesus,

1047
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: Like bro the Savior would be fucking ripped funk out

1048
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: of here and weak? Has anyone ever done to Jesus

1049
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: with like a really big dog, because like I feel

1050
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: like there's just always a normal yeah statue of Jesus

1051
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: with like a mass because like he's always like naked

1052
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: like mostly, but like they make him ripped. But I

1053
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: feel like this that might be the future of Christ

1054
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: is just like a cross fit Jesus, just a weird,

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Speaker 1: floppy Dijesus. All right, And finally let's talk about let's

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Speaker 1: talking about Jared Invlanka uhca uh the new Jared Kushner,

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Speaker 1: Gerard kush Baby. Uh yeah, they're they're fucked on many

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Speaker 1: different levels. Uh. They have no power in d C,

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Speaker 1: they have debt. Uh. Gerard's probably gonna they're gonna look

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Speaker 1: at some of the ship he did. Uh ways that

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Speaker 1: he kind of combined his job in the government with

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Speaker 1: his personal finances that probably won't look so good. Vodka's

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Speaker 1: consultation fees. She was getting that. They're like, what what

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Speaker 1: what is this? What's going on here? Who is this?

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Speaker 1: What is this for? Yeah, we got there. I think

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Speaker 1: they're headed to New Jersey because nobody do nobody's working

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Speaker 1: with them in New York anymore, like they're they're basically

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Speaker 1: she would have to wear a disguise uh to like

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Speaker 1: I think, not that she's completely unwelcome there, but her

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Speaker 1: social circle has evaporated in that sense. And like, like

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Speaker 1: you know, most people will rightfully treat this family like

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Speaker 1: the pariah's that they are. And so yes, because of that,

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Speaker 1: they're like, well fuck that, what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 1: We need to go to ourselves are safe space. So

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Speaker 1: they have plans on that Bedminster golf club or golf course. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and they're expanding their cottage. And I will use air

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Speaker 1: quotes on cottage because I'll get to the square footage

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Speaker 1: in a second. Uh. They're expanding their cottage on Daddy's

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Speaker 1: golf course. And like almost it looks based on some

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Speaker 1: of these plans in this New York Times article, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like they don't really need to leave much if

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Speaker 1: they're there. So this is from The New York Times

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Speaker 1: report says, quote, the new plans before Bedminster Township call

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Speaker 1: for an expanded master bedroom. This is in their existing

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Speaker 1: um home that's already there, a bathroom, dressing room, two

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Speaker 1: new bedrooms, a study, and a ground floor verandah, making

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Speaker 1: it more comparable to the five million dollar house they

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Speaker 1: rent for a fifteen thousand dollars a month in d C.

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Speaker 1: Then they say plans also call for adding five more

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Speaker 1: cottages of a five thousand square feet each to the property,

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Speaker 1: apartment and uh and a recreation complex with spa, treatments

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Speaker 1: and a general store. So you know they're not they

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Speaker 1: are creating the village for themselves to like escape from,

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Speaker 1: you know, having to be held accountable in public. Well,

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Speaker 1: the general store. Carr Avanka's like fashion line that she

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Speaker 1: used to have. Oh god, no, it's gonna have nice brands.

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Speaker 1: She even knows that. She's like, come, never do that.

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Speaker 1: She's like, I mean that is what happens. Like that

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Speaker 1: is usually the sign of somebody who is going to

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Speaker 1: go off. Like that's when Michael Jackson like created Neverlands, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Elvis created Graceland, like people who their own Yeah, Kanye

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Speaker 1: and Wyoming Disney and Disneyland, like that's when people really

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Speaker 1: go off the deep end. And I'll I will be

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Speaker 1: interested to see because the general store that really perks

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Speaker 1: my ears up? What does that mean? A supermarket? A

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Speaker 1: way to like like meg wham. She's like, can you

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Speaker 1: can you switch it out so it looks like the

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Speaker 1: Chanelle store because I can't go into Manhattan anymore? Please?

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Speaker 1: But they're not going to sell any of the bad

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Speaker 1: chicken that they're right, Oh, I guarantee they're not going to.

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Speaker 1: They'll have living chefs and like their own supply chain

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Speaker 1: just inside there, could you. Yeah, they become very efficient.

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Speaker 1: They're like it's actually a self sustaining property. We're doing

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01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: regenerative agriculture. It's really amazing. Um, I don't know what. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know, those kids like they're they're you know,

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Speaker 1: they're school age, like they're getting into like ship talking

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Speaker 1: kid age where I can only imagine what do you

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Speaker 1: do then? Because they're going to have to homeschool because

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Speaker 1: you know, someone will be like, hey, what do you owe?

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Speaker 1: Is Gerard your dad? Oh? Kid right here? It'll be

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't even if I was a parent,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like wait, hold on, they're going to the

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Speaker 1: same school. Let me tell you about No, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to poison the well, they're just kidding. I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it is every American's duty to let

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Speaker 1: their kids know about what this person's parents and grandparents did.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, in a nice you know, don't don't don't

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Speaker 1: scare the kids, but just let your parents let them know.

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Speaker 1: It was a monster. Grandpa brought back firing squads just that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know, um, so you know you can treat

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Speaker 1: them however, but be kind, but you know, firing squads.

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Speaker 1: Just keep that in mind. You know, how long do

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Speaker 1: you do you do you think until Jared, I'm sorry,

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01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: Gerard and Ivanka have like you know, in their minds,

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01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: they're probably like, okay, like in two years, it's gonna

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01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: blow over, Like trust me, just like with all the

1137
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: outrage of stuff Daddy was doing in office, like we

1138
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: just gotta we'll just lay low and we'll come back in.

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Speaker 1: Do you think what do you think? Because I think

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01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: it is possible because we have a terrible memory here

1141
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: for like actually remembering how fucked up people are and

1142
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: how they behaved in the past. Do you think what

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01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: we will somehow be seeing her back to her old

1144
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: like Manhattan's self within two years, three years? Do you

1145
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: think people will allow her back? Thinking was at a

1146
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: fucking comedy club, you know what I mean, and the

1147
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: granted people booed and hissed him out of there, but

1148
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: like I it just shows that there's a mixture of

1149
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: like audacity on the on the part of the transgressors

1150
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: and like just a sort of like lack of wanting

1151
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: to confront them on the people who would like host

1152
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: them out of place that allows for this slow creep

1153
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: of people like I don't know, so long ago, like

1154
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: they're not doing it anymore, and like I don't know,

1155
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: they just don't need a bunch of money, you know,

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01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I feel like it's not I

1157
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, I just don't think. Um, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm like they won't see they won't

1159
01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: see social justice. But being ousted, Uh, come on, New York,

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01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: do us proud shun them? Right? Or to my surprise,

1161
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: like they show up, you know and like fucking march

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01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: somewhere in Manhattan and people are just like throwing like

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: old dead heads of lettuce at them, And should I

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01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: bet she ends up on real houses of New York City,

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: like two seasons in the future. That would be no,

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Speaker 1: you know what, that feels very very real because I

1167
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: mean they started as reality show characters. Why wouldn't they

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01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: their own it's their own, it's their own show. Yeah,

1169
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: remember we saw it. Remember they were trying to make

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01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: it back in and it never aired and there was

1171
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: like that clip of it and it's so fucking cringe

1172
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: e where like they tried to make it seems like

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01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: a reality show. But Donald Trump can't even pretend to

1174
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: act like a dad to don junr that it just

1175
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: comes off as like him talking to a maintenance worker.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's right. Well, Veronica has been pleasure having you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for expending

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01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: the energy will you have Oh my god, this is

1179
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: the best way to spend my COVID days. Thank you

1180
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: for having men. I wish I could smell you, guys,

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01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you do not Where can people

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01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: find you and follow you? Um? You can find me

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01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: on all platforms at Veronica k all day. Um. I

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01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: just made a TikTok and it's only videos of my hamster.

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01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: So I'm just that's a warning. Wow, how how did

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Speaker 1: your hamster dance lip sync? What are we looking at you?

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01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: She does it all, She does it all. Mostly she

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01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: just stuffs her cheeks with a lot of food and

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Speaker 1: then wattles her little stuffed body and then runs away

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Speaker 1: from me. Dan, that's all you need? Oh man? Ye

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Speaker 1: Is there a tweeter some of the work of social

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Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Yes? Um, this is from Camille Corbett.

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Speaker 1: She's very funny Twitter at the Witty Girl and I

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01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: liked this tweet a lot. It says I've probably spent

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: of the best years of my life watching my own

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: grand story. That just really I felt like a personal attack. Uh, Miles,

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01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: where can people find you? With the tweet you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles

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Speaker 1: of Gray. Uh. And also the other podcast for Twenty

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01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: Day Fiance where we're talking about ninety fiance and season

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Speaker 1: nine of Mary to First Sight because that's on Netflix,

1202
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: so if you've never seen it, we're only a couple episodes.

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01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: De pop in. We're just being like, this is not

1204
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna end well, and some people are so booed up

1205
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: magically that you're like, I'm tired of them because they're

1206
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: a functioning couple out the gate and I'm here for

1207
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: drama and trash. Uh. Let's see a tweet that I

1208
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: like for This is from Reductress at reductor tweets this

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01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: woman went home to her parents for Thanksgiving because she

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01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: was already living there. Shout out to everybody who's having

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Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving or how to Thanksgiving? Wait? This is this

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01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: is Monday. Let me actually find some that's more. Um. Okay.

1213
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: This one is from Reductress and this tweet is how

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: did not hate the child actor that looks nothing like

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01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: the grown up actor they're supposed to resemble, Because I

1216
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: feel like that's happening a lot. I think for Molly Games,

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01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 1: people are people have some people have some energy for

1218
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: Molly's game. I think this looks like a photo of

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01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: juxtaposed of two redheaded people. Is there any flashback scenes?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's que no Queen's Gambit? What am I saying? Game?

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01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: That is? That's the poker game, Poker the Queen's Gambit

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: man Uh tweet I enjoyed Nazi at Schnoozel tweeted dead

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: Sneeze so loud because it's the only way they know

1224
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: how to express their emotions. Uh and Colin. Hello, Colin

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Speaker 1: tweeted a prank show that exclusively and relentlessly targets former

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Speaker 1: Trump administration. That is the reality show I need that.

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Speaker 1: I think you can put that money together in Hollywood

1228
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: and just be like, look, this is the deal. I

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01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: will prank them until I die, but I need to

1230
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: pay for some of these things, Like these are going

1231
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: to be elaborate. The lawsuits, that is one that you

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01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: would have to well if they're like, well, that's what

1233
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: you do is like you also work with a legal

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01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: team to like thread the needle of like what is

1235
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: a prank that doesn't necessary Like they can come at

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01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: you for damage. Just look for us to do on Mike,

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01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: We're going to talk to our lawyers right now about this.

1238
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: So that they can never trust their reality again. Like

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01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: it's almost like becomes a Truman show. Things they just

1240
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: always feel like, ye, fair gaming, man, just take a

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01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: book out of Scientology page just come with you like

1242
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: that for four years, so we could just gasolate them

1243
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: for the rest of their lives. We'll get We'll get

1244
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: Mike render and be like, yeah, man, just put me

1245
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: onto all the tactics of scientology like harassment brokers. This

1246
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: is this is, this is fucked up because I don't

1247
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: think the leadership in this country is actually to hold

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: somebody to do account. Little lights. Yeah yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

1250
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Where

1251
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

1252
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: fan page on a website, daily geist dot com where

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Speaker 1: post our episodes on our foot notes. Look off the

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Speaker 1: information that we talked about in today's episode, as well

1255
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: as this song we right out on miles. What are

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01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: we riding into this fine post Thanksgiving week? You know

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Speaker 1: that's cybermun Let's just yeah, just keep low vibes, like

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Speaker 1: I know it's probably a you know, wild couple of

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Speaker 1: days over the weekend. Um, this is a track called

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Speaker 1: Meet the Frownies and it's about to buy this band

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Speaker 1: called Mr Twin Sister. I'm not I've just been getting

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Speaker 1: into their their music, and uh, this is the reason

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Speaker 1: I got into it is because this Kendrick Lamar sampled

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Speaker 1: it on the recipe that bonus track, So I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Let me think you see what's going

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Speaker 1: on here. The track is actually really well, very laid back,

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Speaker 1: very easy to listen to. Um and yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: just good. Good Monday fives. So meet the Frowns alright,

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Speaker 1: the Daily Sie guys, the production of our Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: for More podcast for my Heart Radio visits the heart

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Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows. That's gonna do it for this Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you all that. A boy boy

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