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The Colin Coward Podcast 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi, everybody, welcome 12 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: into the Tuesday Morning Podcast. Mike Silver stops by. We 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: got breaking news, we have crazy news, we have controversial news. 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Let me start with this. It's interesting to watch people 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: react on the Internet to Kyler Murray's contract. A bit 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: of it has been exposed in it the Cardinals. The 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals put a clause in that said Kyler needs 18 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: to spend four hours of independent study per game away 19 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: from the facility. Doesn't count. TV browsing doesn't count. Video 20 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: games doesn't count as browsing the Internet, meaning that there 21 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: was a concern that he wasn't putting in as much 22 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: prep time, so they wanted to get it down in writing. 23 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: So people are freaking out about this, and no, it's 24 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: not ideal. But when Tom Brady was compulsively obsessively training 25 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: in the offseason and Big Ben of the Steelers would 26 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: legendarily known as a guy who considered ten situps and 27 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: some Budweiser and camping with his kids is his offseason workout, 28 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: did people freak out? Not everybody gives you Tom Brady 29 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: or Russell Wilson's commitment. This is understood and not a surprise. 30 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: Before he signed his contract and right after I had 31 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: said that. Listen, I've heard things from people I trust. 32 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Leadership abilities not great. He's got a baseball mindset baseball 33 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: players that's really about pitchers getting numbers and hitters have 34 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: bonuses for getting independent numbers. When I say he's got 35 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: a bit of a baseball mindset, Kyler's always been a 36 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: little into Kyler. Listen. I remember before he got drafted, 37 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: he did that weird interview. I think it was on 38 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show where he went on the show 39 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: and didn't speak and I'm like, odd, not ideal. But 40 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: when he gets into games, he wins a lot of them, 41 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: and he's the one player they have that allows them 42 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: to be competitive, regardless if they're facing the Rams or 43 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: the Packers or the Patriots. For years and years and years, 44 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: I heard this about Big Ben, I heard it about 45 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: Cam Newton. They weren't great at the line of scrimmage. Quarterbacks. 46 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: They went to the line with the play, had a 47 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: very remedial audible system. Basically, give me the play, I'm 48 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna make stuff happen. Well. Backyard football, all right. It 49 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: worked for Big Ben a lot of times, Josh Allen 50 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: a lot of times. Great athletes. Brett Farve was known 51 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: for this. He had lived a lot out of plays. 52 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: This is the reality. Patrick Mahomes sometimes is better out 53 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: of the pocket you do get. There are plays called, 54 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: and quarterbacks often add lib out of them, leaving at 55 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: a time the coach does not see it as ideal. 56 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: You run yourself into a sack, run yourself out of 57 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: a successful play. So my point is, not everybody quarterbacks 58 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: the same way. Not everybody's equally committed. Brady obsesses over film. 59 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I've been told, doesn't. Aaron will watch film. 60 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: He doesn't obsess over it because he's so naturally gifted 61 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: that Aaron's belief is all get us out of this jam. 62 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there's always been an understanding in the NFL 63 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: the secret to stopping Aaron Rodgers, and it doesn't know 64 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: his work has changed the defense right before the snap. 65 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: He's not as good as Brady or Manning in that 66 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: space because he's not as obsessed about film as Brady 67 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: or Manning. He's good at film, he's not great at it. 68 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: So there's not one way to quarterback, not one way 69 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: to prepare, not one way to spend an offseason. And 70 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: the more physically gifted quarterbacks Ben Kyler, Aaron rod Cam Newton, 71 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: it's natural. Maybe they don't need the same level of 72 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: pre snap excellence or pregame studying. Tom Brady has to 73 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: be obsessed. He's not as gifted an athlete. Tom Brady 74 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: can't make plays as regularly off script. It's okay, these 75 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: stories and this contract we're seeing about Kyler Murray is 76 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: not a surprise to people in the league. I had 77 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer, you know, quarterback camp brother of Carson Palmer, 78 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: joined me on my show last week. He said on 79 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: the air. Listen. Some of the stuff Kyler does I 80 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't recommend for the quarterback position. Some of the lack 81 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: of leadership stuff is not what I would recommend. But 82 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: he's the best high school football player in the state 83 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: of Texas. He was the number one pick Heisman Trophy 84 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals to the playoffs. So not everybody prepares the same way. 85 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: Not everybody's the same pre snap quarterback. Not everybody is 86 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: completely obsessed. And you'll find in life, the more talent 87 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: a singer, a performer, a salesperson has, sometimes they get 88 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: away with a little less prep. So Danny Aange, who 89 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: now runs the Utah Jazz, is a really smart guy. 90 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: Danny Yange rebuilt the Celtics by often finding desperate trade 91 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: partners like the Brooklyn Nets the KG deal. Now he 92 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: is running the Jazz and he's trying to make a 93 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: deal with the New York Knicks, another desperate trade partner. 94 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: He made a deal with the Minnesota Timberwolves. Not desperate, 95 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: but a franchise that's never really done anything and they 96 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: believe this is their window. While they don't have to 97 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: pay Anthony Edwards Aunt Edwards huge money yet, so they 98 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: go in on Rudy Gobert, they have Carl Anthony Towns, 99 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: they have Anthony Edwards. It's probably the most talented roster 100 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: they've had. They're going all in, and so Danny Ainge 101 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: gives them Gobert for a massive package. There's a reason 102 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: the Celtics are only willing to give up a really 103 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: good starter, a really good bench guy, and a draft 104 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: pick for Kevin Durant. They're not desperate, and most good 105 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: teams in this league that Durant would want to play 106 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: for aren't desperate either. Miami's not desperate. They came with 107 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: it a jumper of ending up in the finals. Sons 108 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: aren't desperate. They went to a Game seven against Dallas. 109 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Golden State not desperate. Boston not desperate. Philadelphia is not desperate, 110 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Milwaukee's not desperate. MEMPHISI isn't desperate. Clippers aren't desperate. That's 111 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: what you're gonna get, high end starter, a great bench guy, 112 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: and a couple of picks. It's like I can have 113 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: a house. Let's say I have a house in a 114 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: really good school district and parents want to be in 115 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: the best school district they can afford. I can have 116 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: two separate buyers. I could have somebody that is already 117 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: in the school district. They're not desperate to get into it, 118 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: they just want to get a nicer home. Or I 119 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: can find somebody outside of the school district and school 120 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: starts in three weeks and they have to get into 121 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: the school district fast, same house. I get two different offers. 122 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: What the Celtics offered for KD is exactly what I 123 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: would offer Jalen Brown, a top bench guy who can 124 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: shoot and a draft picker two. I don't know of 125 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: any top five team in the league that should give 126 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: more than that for Kevin Durant, a thirty four year 127 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: old who is, let's be honest, not as great for chemistry, 128 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: sometimes sort of prickly, aloof difficult, asked Steve kerr naows 129 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: a pleasure to coach. When I look at that offered 130 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: by the Celtics, that's not low balling. That's a reasonable 131 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: offer for what Kevin Durant is. Stop telling me how 132 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: great he is. He's also sometimes difficult. Alright, time to 133 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: bring in my buddy Mike Silver, host of Open Mic. 134 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: That's new with the volume Von Miller Interview is out 135 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: on YouTube and all of our podcast platforms. So My 136 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: opening rant into this was about Kyder Murray and a 137 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: lot of people freaking out about a bit of his 138 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: contract that ended up on the internet, which had a 139 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: four hour minimum per week game study at home. And 140 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: not to repeat exactly what I said, but not everybody 141 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: is equally obsessed. Not everybody is Brady. It was understood 142 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: for years that Big Ben's off seasons were amping with 143 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: his kids. All right, It's been understood in the league 144 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: that Rogers, Aaron Rodgers watches film but is not obsessed 145 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: by it. Cam Newton, big Ben were guys that had, 146 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, kind of remedial pre snap audible systems. They 147 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: kind of relied on their greatness and their talent. They're 148 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: both big could do stuff off script. And my thing 149 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: with Kyler is are you better with him or without him? 150 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: Are you relevant without him? Okay, he's good. He's an 151 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: ad liver, he's a playmaker. He doesn't want to get 152 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: I can make this argument, Mike, it's paralysis by analysis. 153 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: He knows the play. He goes to the line with 154 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: a possible audible everything else, he's gonna make a play. 155 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: And I'm okay with not everybody being Brady obsessed with film. Study. 156 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: I agree, except that it's so much money and it's 157 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: not my money, and I'm glad he got it, but 158 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: it's a large part of your cap right, So your 159 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: franchise is basically saying, this guy has to be transcendent 160 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: for this to pay off for us. I'll give you two. 161 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: I'll give you a point counterpoint. So Michael vick I 162 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: used to hang out with him when he was in Atlanta. 163 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: He was unbelievable, transcendent talent, you know, freakish, could flip 164 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: them all with his left wrist and throw a seventy 165 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: yard spiral. Incredible runner, captivating player, and went into Lambeau 166 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: and won when no team had done that in the playoffs, 167 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: did some real things, got the Atlanta Falcons to the 168 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. And then he had his career and 169 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: life crater out and he went to jail, and he 170 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: came back to Philly, and when he got his second 171 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: chance with Andy Reid, it was space age good, like, WHOA, 172 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: this guy has the cheek codes and he's still that 173 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: freakish for a while. And what he said to me 174 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: then was, man, I really did a disservice to the Falcons, 175 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: to Arthur blank to Dan Reeves and them, I should 176 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: have devoted some time to it off the field, because 177 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: once I got away from the facility, I was in 178 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: departing and not and just doing my thing. And if 179 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: I had done that then it would have been better. 180 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: So I would say, maybe you can get by to 181 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: a certain level just I'm not obsessed with it and 182 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: I just go out and make plays. But usually it 183 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: starts to separate, you know, the absolute killers from the 184 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: non killers in the end. And Kyler we saw in 185 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. Look, you know, wasn't just Kyler. 186 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: That team just didn't look ready for prime time. So 187 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: that would be the concern. The other thing, it's not 188 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: really a counterpoint. I'll just when Ben went to the 189 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl that first year with the Steelers his second season, 190 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: I was covered it for Sports Illustrated and I had 191 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: some time with him on the friday up they were 192 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: staying up and Pontiac, way up in the booties and 193 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: so I, you know, cabbed all the way up there 194 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: and I got in a room with Ben and we 195 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: sat there talking and at one point he said to 196 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: me on the record, yeah, this whole like watching film thing, 197 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: Come on, man, that is just overrated. He's like, I'm 198 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: just really not that into it and call it. It It 199 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing, Like, as I was writing it down, 200 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: I just felt like the presence of Peyton Manning hovering 201 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: over me, knowing that when he read this he was 202 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: going to absolutely lose his mind, you know, not at me, 203 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: But it was just, you know, everything Peyton Manning stands for, 204 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: and and many others Russell Wilson, you know, guys who 205 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: are great. They believe you got to live in and 206 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: breathe it. Ben obviously didn't. So yeah, it's I don't 207 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: want to freak out about the one clause, but I 208 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: do find it interesting a that it's in there. The 209 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: Cardinals obviously felt like there was a reason they wanted 210 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: it in there for whatever reason. And be the fact 211 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: that it got out because I can't see it getting 212 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: out from Kyler's Yeah, you know I said this. Aaron Rodgers, 213 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Big Ben Kyler, Murray are not as obsessed 214 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: as Peyton Manning and Brady. But Brady and Manning don't 215 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: have the natural gifts with their feet. And I think, 216 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: like I've been in radio forever and I do two 217 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: hours of prep a morning. I can listen to other 218 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: contemporaries and no, they're not doing prep. It matters to me, 219 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter to everybody the same way. Some 220 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: people feel like they're funnier when they add lib and 221 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: they don't want to have as many notes. My instance 222 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: and my career and my prep works for me, and 223 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: sure you know what I mean. So I think you're right. 224 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't think Kyler will be an Altimer. I don't 225 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: think Ben's an Alteimer. Aaron is so gifted, and Aaron 226 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: doesn't ignore film. But I've heard you know, he has 227 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: a life beyond film. He's not gonna sit home all 228 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: weekend and watch film. Is I think a lot of 229 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: times people that are more talented in life sometimes aren't 230 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: as obsessed. And you know, Chris Carter, the Hall of 231 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: Fame receiver, said this to me one time. He said, 232 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: when you have great talent, you need to show it. 233 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: He goes, I started getting into one hand catches and 234 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: it's like I almost couldn't stop myself. I wanted to 235 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: show everybody how much talent. And he said, it's almost biblical. 236 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: If you have a great singing voice, you're gonna sing 237 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: in the shower, you're gonna sing in the car, You're 238 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna sing. And so I don't think Kiter's an all timer, 239 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: but I think and by the way, his contract is 240 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: reasonably team friendly. So I don't think he has Josh 241 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Allen's size, arm or perhaps career, but for what the 242 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: car Cardinal's need, Mike, he's still worth the money. To me, Well, 243 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: if he can have Ben's career, he's full on worth 244 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: the money. Ben Roethlisberger won two Super Bowls, went to three. 245 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: You know, had them in contention most years. You know, 246 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: coexisted with similarly abrasive and impetuous humans like himself, who 247 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: were also great for a long time. I mean, I've 248 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: defended Ben for a long time. A lot of Ben's 249 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: greatness doesn't show up in the numbers, the improvisation, the 250 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: extending plays. And I say that as someone who's not 251 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: personally close with Ben, but I've tended to have his back. 252 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: If Kyler murk and I've Ben Roethlisberger's career, then that 253 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: contracts a huge win for the Cardinals. Kyler Murray hasn't 254 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: won a playoff game yet, he has played in what 255 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: I would say a small smattering of really big games 256 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: in his career, including the stretch in twenty twenty and 257 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: twenty one and then the twenty twenty one playoff game. 258 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: And he's also missed time during that stretch with injuries 259 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: that weren't necessarily textbook. So I don't know, he's still 260 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: got to prove to me that he can be in 261 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Ben's realm with that great talent. 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So here's 297 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: my other way, not to defend him, but Arizona knew 298 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: what they were getting with Kyler when they drafted him. 299 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: These stories were understood. It's it's the same thing with 300 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: Cleveland getting Deshaun Watson. Yeah, okay, Deshaun Watson's story is weird. 301 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: It's weird. He's a little weird. I'm sorry, sixty fifty 302 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: massage therapists. So when you sign him, I think Cleveland knows. Listen, 303 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: we're kind of desperate. We got a mess with Baker. 304 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: We're going to roll the dice. So with Kyler and 305 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: Deshaun in these two instances, By the way, Jay Cutler 306 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: came with baggage. I mean, Jay Cutler onto college was 307 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: big arm, big attitude, big ego, difficult, So it's not 308 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: like this was a shocker. Like Kyler was known as 309 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: a baseball guy who was kind of in the Kyler. 310 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: But what you don't want as an organization is it's 311 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: so much of your cap that you don't want a 312 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: seat of the pants vibe, especially when in big games 313 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: you're cratering. And again, Desjohn Watson beat Josh Allen in 314 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: a playoff game, you know, came up big in some 315 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: big moments, you know. I think it's the combination. The 316 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals were kind of in a box, and this is 317 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: a box that a lot of teams get in. We 318 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: have this guy, We're not going to get anyone close 319 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: to as good as him, But if we pay him, 320 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: he's gotta be Rogers Brady Russell Wilson, like, he's got 321 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: to be transcendent because we're going to have some deficiencies 322 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: because of the cap. When someone is Patrick Mahomes, it's 323 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: not a hard decision, you go, right, Yeah, of course 324 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: we're paying that guy. When someone is you know, clearly 325 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: below that line, you know, like Jameis Winston was and 326 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariona, it's also an easy decision. We drafted him, 327 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: we'd like him. We can't go all in with this guy. 328 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: He's not good enough for us. But if you're in 329 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: that Tony Romo Middle and I don't say this with disrespect. 330 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: These guys are really good. Matt Ryan, you know, really 331 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: really good players. Matt Ryan won an MVP and almost 332 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: won a super Bowl. But when you're in that zone 333 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: where you think he's so good, we can't get anyone 334 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: like him, But if we pay him, can we do 335 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: enough around him where he doesn't have to be Aaron Rodgers. 336 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: That's the fear, And like we've seen it work and network. 337 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: The Ravens paid Joe Flacco after he elevated in twenty twelve, 338 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: and then they were like, yeah, we don't think it's 339 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: good enough. You know, they're probably gonna pay Lamar Jackson. 340 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: I would support that based on what I've seen, but 341 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: it's you know, we've seen it work and we've seen 342 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: it not worked. The Vikings thought it would work with 343 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins so far and hasn't. Maybe with Kevin O'Connell 344 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: that'll change, you know. But you either want to have 345 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: that rookie deal and write it out as long as 346 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: you can, or you want to be sure, like mahomes Alan, 347 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: sure that you're you know, paying the right guy. It 348 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: is interesting when you get these sort of enigmatic personalities Cutler, 349 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: Johnny Manzil Jamis, was Odd Baker, Mayfield, Kyle Murray, Rogers, 350 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, go back to Aaron Rodgers Draft night like 351 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: they're not shocking. People tell you who they are, believe them. 352 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: So you know, I mean it really does. First impressions matter. 353 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: So I'm or Kyler than you. But you know this 354 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: is also Mike, the league is now sole quarterback centric 355 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: because of the rule changes. The middle of the field 356 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: is offense. We grew up it was defense. I say 357 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: this all the time. There used to be a term 358 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: used on every broadcast he alligator armed it. Nobody wanted 359 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: to go over the middle, right back. That's right. Now 360 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: that term disappeared because the middle is the no hit zone. 361 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: And so my takeaway is this league has gone all 362 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: in on offense to protect its stars. And what it's 363 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: done it's given quarterbacks and their agents unrivaled power. Now 364 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: in most instances, they're good kids, and they're good contracts. 365 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: I think Kyler will work out. But I said this 366 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: the other day, Mike. See if you agree with me. 367 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: I said, let's say you get four really good years 368 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: with Kyler and then he gets hurt. I still think 369 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: it's worth it for four years, I still do. Yeah, No, 370 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that part of it. I just think, 371 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's just human nature. Like if you're if 372 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: you know, if a new entity, we're trying to lure 373 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: you exclusively, and we're throwing tons of money at you, 374 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: and you were kind of like, cool, man, when's that 375 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: first show ten o'clock? All right, man, I'll be there 376 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: at nine fifty five. What you tell me to rundown? 377 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: They just, you want to feel more secure about it. 378 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: So clearly they feel insecure about it. So again I 379 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: don't I don't know exactly what's happened, but I do 380 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: know that, you know, they just gave him a lot 381 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: of money. Cool, I think he's worth it. Like you said, 382 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: they were in a box. I think paying him was 383 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: the right call they had. You know, we saw what 384 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: it was like when they drafted a guy the year before. 385 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: It didn't go great. So yeah, he's your guy, pay him. 386 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: But they clearly wanted to feel a little bit differently 387 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: about it, and probably just the act of making him 388 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: read that on paper and put his name, you know, 389 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: to that probably was enough for them to go, hey, buddy, 390 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: So this whole seat of the pants thing, like we 391 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: got to take it up and not yet at least 392 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: for them to feel comfortable. And then the fact that 393 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: it got out makes me wonder if they didn't want 394 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: to underscore that to the rest of America because here 395 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: we are, all right, So you and I've been doing 396 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: this for a long time and you are a feat 397 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: on the ground soldier for this reporting stuff. I am 398 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: a talker who has over the course of thirty years, 399 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: accumulated some good sources, don't I don't break stories regularly. 400 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: I got lucky on the Brady to the Buccaneers story. 401 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: Got lucky on that one. But about once twice a year, 402 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: maybe I'll break a story, but that's not my job. 403 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: It's not I don't have the access you do. But 404 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: you and I share, if not the same sources. They're 405 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: in the vicinity on Trey Lands. Now, listen, you and 406 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: I know fans don't want to hear this, right, fans 407 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: want to hear everything's great. So there's there's three things 408 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: that we know to be true and they're on tape 409 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: with Trey Lance. One he played for a dominant FCS 410 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: program that didn't throw them all much. That's on tape 411 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: number two is the Niners. Some in the building wanted 412 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: Mac Jones, some wanted Trey Lance. That's been reported by 413 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: multiple sources. And three we saw him play last year. 414 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of an ugly aesthetic delivery. It's not pretty. 415 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: And his completion rate so far it's early, but it's 416 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: it's not He's not Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Tom Brady 417 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: in terms of mechanics or accuracy. We all know these 418 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: are true. So you and I have both had sources 419 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: that have said there is some concern that, and I 420 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: have three sources, now you probably have more. Mine are 421 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: all saying like, he has his days and then it's concerning. 422 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: So let's readdress that because I think Niner fans just 423 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: think we make stuff up. My sources are like, they 424 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: like him. He's big, he's tall, he's smart, he's fast. 425 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: The accuracy comes and goes, and you know it's Kyle 426 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: Shanahan is fairly demanding on get the ball out, get 427 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: it accurately to my guy. That's what I'm hearing. Most 428 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: of your sourcing, from what I've read or heard, is similar. Right, Yeah, 429 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: And I'll just say, you know, some of my sources 430 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: are current coaches. So I know people like to source, 431 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: speculate or whatever. I will never engage in that stupidity. 432 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: But you know, you know me, you know what kind 433 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: of sources I tend to have. And you know, I 434 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: think Niner fans, some of them are under this weird 435 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: impression that unless it was witnessed in a you know, 436 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: practice where reporters were allowed to watch it, which is 437 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: not every practice. You know, they were not watching every 438 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: OTA practice. They they watch training camp, but they don't 439 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: watch a lot during the season. Unless there was a 440 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: witness to something that was reported, it can't possibly be true. 441 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: And there's also this weird impression that nobody in that 442 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: building ever talks to the media, which is keep thinking 443 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: that that's fun. But you know, there's some very good 444 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: journalists down there who covered the team regularly, and so 445 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: this is not anything crazy that we're talking about. But yeah, 446 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: he his accuracy was not great. He did have a 447 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: finger injury last year. What I'm told is that his 448 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: release was changed, that his long wind up. They've worked 449 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: on that to shorten that. But it's gotten better. But 450 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a doctor, but let's just say 451 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: it like this. You know, this, and I'm not a 452 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: golfer either, but when you're tinkering with a golf swing 453 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: or you know a motion and you're not really sure 454 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: which is the right way or how to trust it, 455 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: sometimes that leads to inconsistency, right, and maybe some stress pain, fatigue, 456 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, in certain muscles. So what I've been told 457 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: is that there are some days where he looks fantastic 458 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: accuracy wise, there's some days where it looks really, really, 459 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: really far from fantastic, which is concerning, and that there 460 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: have been some sessions or days, specifically this offseason where 461 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: he has been held out of workouts or practices because 462 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: the arm either was sore or tired, or you know, 463 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: didn't feel right. So neither of those is necessarily catacalismic. 464 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: You know, Dak Prescott had shoulder pain last year and 465 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: played through it. Josh Allen went from fifty five percent 466 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: to seventy percent, which I don't want to give people 467 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 1: too much hope. That's literally one of one in NFL history, 468 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: But you know, these things can get better. Kyle Shannon 469 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: has an incredible quarterback coach, and I guess I would 470 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: go back to this people who think, oh, we're just 471 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: out here hating on trail ads like I think you 472 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: and I are both rooting hard for this kid to 473 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: succeed from what we've what we've seen. I've said this 474 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: for years. I don't watch all NFL football equally. Bad 475 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: quarterback play is bad football. I'm rooting for thirty two 476 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: teams with competent quarterbacks, right. And I'm specifically excited about 477 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: this kid for a lot of reasons. Number One, what 478 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: I've heard about his intelligence, the way they've evaluated his 479 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: brain or whatever, you know, whatever metrics they use is 480 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: apparently not just high intelligence, but off the charts. Now 481 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: there's a difference between processing speed, you know, all these 482 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: things I didn't understand. But from what I've told, this 483 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: is not like, oh, this is a really smart kid, 484 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: like he could be exceptional football smart, you know, which 485 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: is amazing, especially when you're trying to run a really 486 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: really complicated offense. You know that Kyle runs, So there's that, 487 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: There's the obvious athleticism, the arm is big. He is 488 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: seems like a great kid, and I think he you know, 489 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to have a closet his 490 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: contract saying he's got to watch film without video games 491 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: in the background, if you know what I mean, Like, 492 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's into it now. You know, 493 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: he's getting thrown into a situation where there's a team 494 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: that almost went to the super Bowl last year. They're 495 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: built to win right now. They're constructed to take advantage 496 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: of the specific strengths of Jimmy Garoppolo, which is getting 497 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: the ball in tight spaces very accurately with a good 498 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: released boom and letting debo and kittle and you catch 499 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: a run. Kyle can change some of that. Can't change 500 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: personnel completely, but can change things scheme wise. He can 501 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: roll Trey Lance out, boot him. He can have him 502 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: thrown deep more. You know, there's different things they can do. 503 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: But you know it is it would be foolish and 504 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 1: paul and ish to sit there as a forty nine 505 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: er fan and go, well, I don't believe that there's 506 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: any way he's been inaccurate in practices or that his 507 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: arms gotten fatigue. That's not true. He's going to show you, hah. 508 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: He might show us that he's great. And I think 509 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: you know Kyle's view on it is, Yeah, I drafted 510 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: him for all this potential, including the intelligence We're going 511 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: to throw him in. We've got a good team where 512 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: we can play good defense and get the ball to 513 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: our playmakers and not put it all on him. But 514 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: it's an experiment, and you know, I'm hoping it results 515 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: in a big, big, you know, bounty. But if you're 516 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: if you're a forty nine er fan and you don't 517 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: think they're legitimately concerned in that building, you are delusional. 518 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: So you know, Lamar Jackson doesn't have an agent. Not ideal. 519 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: I've had one of my whole life because I've had 520 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: to you know, I have to pay him a percentage. Ideally, 521 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: I wish I could negotiate my own deals or my 522 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: mom would do my late mother, So that was never ideal. 523 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: But you know, there have been players throughout the course 524 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: of time in all sports that don't have an agent 525 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: or do it differently. He's gonna get a contract. Take 526 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: me to where you hear they're at. Is it before 527 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: the season? I mean, I think we both admit he's electric. Again, 528 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers or Kinder, he's unique. You have to 529 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: pay unique. It's so funny, how you know, with certain 530 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: things in life we have, Like the best basketball player 531 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: ever is Michael Jordan. He could be selfish. He wasn't 532 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: a great passer and never was a great three point shooter. 533 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 1: And that's the best basketball player ever. We want our 534 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks to be perfect. They're not so, but Lamar wins 535 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the games. He starts in a 536 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: tough division. Where are we at with his deal? So 537 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: during the AD year, Colin I was home all the 538 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: time watching football, like you know, like the rest of 539 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: America mostly, and you know, I saw it from a 540 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: different perspective and watching that playoff game in Tennessee, which 541 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: had taken him out his MVP year, and they were 542 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: down and Lamar Jackson put his foot in the ground 543 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: and cut and went and long before he finished the touchdown, 544 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: I screamed audibly, and like that was an involuntary scream. 545 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to root for one team or another 546 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but it just it made me shriek 547 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: with excitement. And he put that team on his back 548 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: and scored on that play, did what he had to do. 549 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: And so again, Kyler Murray hasn't won a big game 550 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: or shown up big in a big game in the 551 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: NFL yet, probably will soon. Lamar Jackson has, and he's 552 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: done it a lot in big regular season games where 553 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: he's he's elevated. So I know people say, well, their 554 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: offense isn't you know, isn't the best store. You could 555 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: just find a new Lamar every four years. Yeah, good 556 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: luck with that. And I know that there's now a 557 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: stigma that receivers don't want to be there, which might 558 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: not just be a stigma. I mean, it sounds like 559 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown wanted to get out and maybe they've had 560 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: a hard time getting some guys to come there. And 561 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: it is a different offense that Greg Romans running. But man, 562 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean to me, if if there were no Patrick Mahomes, 563 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen obviously has done some great stuff now, 564 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: but if there were no Patrick Mahomes, I just think 565 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: we'd be freaking out more about Lamar Jackson. He's so young, 566 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: so good. It's just that he's in the same conference 567 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: as Patrick Mahomes, you know, and Watson and Allen, and 568 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: you're just like, yo, like, why isn't he Patrick Mahomes. 569 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that anyone else is. And 570 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: by the way, the last time we saw Patrick Mahomes 571 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: play a half of football. It's probably the worst half 572 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: he's played, you know, certainly in the NFL. So look, 573 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: I to me, I think it's a no brainer to 574 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: pay him. I don't think you're trying to get him 575 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: to take a crappy deal if you're the Ravens, because 576 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: that'll just cause problems later. I think you want him 577 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: to take what you think as a fair deal, but 578 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: which gives you some flexibility. If you're a Lamar, you're 579 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: probably justified with or without an agent and going, hey, 580 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson got that including fully guaranteed. Why am I 581 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: not getting that? I don't have a scandal. I was 582 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: an MVP. He wasn't you know. I've gone about as 583 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: far in the playoffs. You know, why would you possibly 584 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: think I would take any less than he would? Now 585 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: if if if it's an agent, you say, yo, yo, agent, 586 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: chill out. You know that Jimmy and d haslem Ore 587 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: Joe's crazy. You know they're nuts, man, you know, And 588 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: then you try to look at the Kyler deal and 589 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: maybe you settle somewhere between. It's it's more awkward when 590 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: you're talking to the player directly. But if I'm the Ravens, 591 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to win that deal. I'm not trying 592 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,479 Speaker 1: to shove something bad down his throat, and I'm like, cool, 593 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: you're our guy, we're paying you. Let's figure out what's fair. 594 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going through Lamar's head, and thankfully 595 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't have an agent to leak it to others 596 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: that do this for a living. So unless anyone out 597 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: there is talking to Lamar, I don't think you know either. Yeah, 598 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: all right, Mike Silver Open Mike. Newest episode is von Miller. 599 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 1: He's part of the volume and he has been battling 600 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: by the way COVID, So we were going to do 601 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: this yesterday. Gave you another day off. You're battling. How 602 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: do you feel? How are you fatigued? Colin? I am 603 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: so much better today, so I'm glad we got the 604 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: extra day. I had three rough, rough days, and you know, 605 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: just feel fortunate that I had all these shots, and 606 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, my body's doing its work. So I'm just 607 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: waiting for I'm just waiting to clear protocols so I 608 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: can start hitting some camps and I'd like to maybe 609 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: give you know, the forty nine er fans have been 610 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: so they've engaged with so much lately you and I 611 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: I'd maybe like to give them a little attention, little 612 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: extra attention, little extra coverage down there in Santa Clara. 613 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: So I'm pondering just spending a little more time in 614 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: Santa Clara. We'll see very interesting. That's known as a 615 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: tease in the business. Hopefully it pays off. Mike, It's 616 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: great to see anybody. Thank you. 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