Speaker 1: Before listening, ask good doctor, if your heart is healthy
Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys,
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross Monday after the Super Bowl. Hell of a game?
Speaker 1: Hell of a game? Where'd you watch it? Kurt? I
Speaker 1: just was at home. I just I didn't. I kept
Speaker 1: it low key. Yeah, yeah, how about you. I went
Speaker 1: to Christie's Sports Bar hung out with my friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all the obnoxious Eagle fans that were in there
Speaker 1: place was hopping there was it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It was crowded. I didn't have a seat
Speaker 1: and I had to stand up. I got there a
Speaker 1: little bit late, a little bit after kickoff. Where'd you
Speaker 1: watch it? Nate? In my car? First, the first three
Speaker 1: quarters I watched in my car. I mean I listened
Speaker 1: in my car. I drive around for the you know,
Speaker 1: for the first two or three quarters, you know, just
Speaker 1: getting them. I like to listen to a guy describe it,
Speaker 1: you know, and so I was listening to it. It It was.
Speaker 1: It was a good game, man. Yeah, you missed so
Speaker 1: you missed the halftime shows and I still ain't watching that,
Speaker 1: and I went I went back this morning while I
Speaker 1: was working on and watched the game. I fast forward
Speaker 1: through all that. I don't want to see your wife.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see you, your your cousin. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see your singing. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see your commercials. I'm you know, I look at you know,
Speaker 1: I look at the super Bowl. Like I told you guys,
Speaker 1: if every game I can get emotional, you know, every game,
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, the NFC Championship game, the divisional rounds,
Speaker 1: I can get I can be going, But the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I just look at I look at it for just
Speaker 1: just analyzing it, you know, calling what I think is
Speaker 1: what's necessary, seeing how the coaches thinking, seeing what the
Speaker 1: players thinking. I'm looking at it just straight up and cold, man,
Speaker 1: just cold and emotionless. Now if the Cowboys, when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys make it back, I'm gonna be even colder, really yeah,
Speaker 1: because I like, I don't want the Super Bowl to
Speaker 1: pass me and I don't realize what's going on and
Speaker 1: not aware of it. And when you when you're a fan,
Speaker 1: you just holling and you are you just screaming and
Speaker 1: you know, and every players are you know, you're either
Speaker 1: falling off a roller coaster or going up the hill
Speaker 1: of a roller coast. I don't ride like that. Not
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. I liked. I like to feel
Speaker 1: that super Bowl. Yeah, you know, and even when I
Speaker 1: played in Super Bowls, I like I wanted to feel
Speaker 1: every moment. Yeah. I listened to a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of former player interviews throughout the week. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of the local radio stations sent guys up
Speaker 1: to up to Minnesota and they would ask they would
Speaker 1: ask the guys that they played in the Super Bowl before,
Speaker 1: what's the one thing that that you would do different?
Speaker 1: And they were all like, just enjoy it, like step
Speaker 1: back and not let it past you so fast. That's saying.
Speaker 1: It's like be aware of what all is going on,
Speaker 1: because you know, I tell people you the only show
Speaker 1: in town. You know, we were driving around like they
Speaker 1: ain't you would think this is a holiday. And I
Speaker 1: looked a little bit my wife, nobody on the street,
Speaker 1: like what do you think if it's not a holiday,
Speaker 1: what do you think it is? You got understand and
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can say this, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying Westwood One has six hundred and twenty eight stations
Speaker 1: up under their umbrella yesterday, six hundred and twenty eight
Speaker 1: radio stations around the world up under their umbrella, and
Speaker 1: everyone of them playing the Super Bowl. Come on, come on,
Speaker 1: and I tell people that it's right here. It's all
Speaker 1: right to cheer because the people in Boston, the people
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, you know, have had it. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's Philly still on the map. Have they burned that
Speaker 1: place down? Yeah? So have had it. Man. I mean,
Speaker 1: fans enjoyed. But as a as an ex player, I
Speaker 1: like to I like to look at it because at
Speaker 1: different times in that game, I'm saying, what are they
Speaker 1: gonna do here? You know? And I'm listening to these
Speaker 1: guys on radio time. I I wanna think it was
Speaker 1: Phil Sims. Quit chasing points, Quit chasing you know, quit
Speaker 1: quit doing a two point conversion. Quit. I'm like, he's
Speaker 1: shut up soon as as soon as New England missed
Speaker 1: they field goal because not the game is being played.
Speaker 1: And one thing that coach Peterson did that I admired
Speaker 1: about him is he realized that if I get a league,
Speaker 1: it's no lead safe. It's lead safe. I'm putting my
Speaker 1: foot on the gas and I'm just going down the
Speaker 1: road one hundred miles an hour, and anybody to step
Speaker 1: out there, you're just gonna get smamed. I did not
Speaker 1: want the Eagles to win this game, just because when
Speaker 1: Eagles fans start chirping, you can always say, you know,
Speaker 1: how many super how many trophies you got? You can't
Speaker 1: say that anymore, and then they're gonna come back to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys fans, Now, when's the last time you won one? Right?
Speaker 1: I didn't want him to win, but I respected the
Speaker 1: way that he called that game. They took that game
Speaker 1: from New England. They did not They did not follow
Speaker 1: in the trap that everybody else does. Get a lead
Speaker 1: and then just play conservative and then you let Brady
Speaker 1: come back and what he does, yeah exactly, you let
Speaker 1: him wrap back in the game because you could. You
Speaker 1: refuse to mix it up. This team here knew they
Speaker 1: could run the ball. They ran it when they needed to.
Speaker 1: But they're more important that Nick Foles threw the ball
Speaker 1: and for three weeks. Now, I gotta do some shows today,
Speaker 1: and I know what everybody gonna do here, Oh nickname
Speaker 1: Rah nah nah. You know, just like with Case Kingham,
Speaker 1: you know your day gonna you know your day gonna happen.
Speaker 1: When you melt down, do you look at Nick Foles
Speaker 1: as is he uh starting caliber quarterback? Now? Not that
Speaker 1: question has to be answered. You know, will he come
Speaker 1: back to Philly and be a backup? Well, if you're
Speaker 1: on the contract, he had the choice. But what if
Speaker 1: he ain't on the contract with somebody, you know, the Jets,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, with somebody give him a decent contract to
Speaker 1: come start for them. You know, what do you do?
Speaker 1: Do you? But but you gotta understand if you get
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, there's certain things he does in the offense
Speaker 1: that your offense may not want to do. So you
Speaker 1: does does nick foles abilities fit with your skin? So
Speaker 1: that's a lot of questions. Man, we're gonna get into that.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna enjoy this. Congratulations Nick Foles. Here's your
Speaker 1: reward you get who got the MVP? Okay, because I'm serious.
Speaker 1: When the game was over, GeV was off. You know
Speaker 1: that part just don't excite me. Trying to listen to
Speaker 1: what somebody got to say. You know, I still thought
Speaker 1: to the very end Patriot's gonna win that thing, did you.
Speaker 1: I just thought they always seem to have this mir
Speaker 1: you know, ways to pull out. Tom Brady was gonna
Speaker 1: work his magic again. Not to have buzzers sounded not.
Speaker 1: I think they were gonna one thing that let me knew.
Speaker 1: And this is where Peterson was smart at He like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we can go ahead and try to
Speaker 1: score and do this clock this way and try to score.
Speaker 1: But he said, but nah, we're gonna get all the
Speaker 1: time outside of the way. Yeah, he took all the
Speaker 1: time outside of the way, and he said, now I
Speaker 1: need for my defense the maintain, you know. And it
Speaker 1: played out. It played out nice. They took like you said,
Speaker 1: they took the game. Man. They made a play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they hadn't done much up until that point, but it
Speaker 1: was a Graham to knock the ball loose. Let's see favor.
Speaker 1: Look on the look and see what the third nine
Speaker 1: percentages was. This is what made this game. So look
Speaker 1: at the third down percenters. I was telling Douglas in
Speaker 1: the back, I would like to know the third downs
Speaker 1: that both of these teams were in. It was sixty
Speaker 1: three percent for the Eagles. How many of the ten
Speaker 1: of sixteen and Patriots was five of ten. And see,
Speaker 1: that's what I was telling people to say. Man, this
Speaker 1: game here, even though it was high scoring, it was
Speaker 1: good because on third down, guys were making plays. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like this was the first second down game. It
Speaker 1: was third and eight got Mike the first down, Third
Speaker 1: and ten got Miga first down. Third and six got
Speaker 1: Maga first down. And so you you you you you
Speaker 1: sitting there tight? Oh my god, oh y'all Norman to
Speaker 1: fill it would get y'all the field. Normally New England
Speaker 1: get you come on third and eight, both of them
Speaker 1: teams to get you out the field. But they couldn't
Speaker 1: get they couldn't get them out the field. That might
Speaker 1: have been my biggest surprise about this game was coming in.
Speaker 1: The defenses were I mean, was solid. For it was
Speaker 1: fourth and points allowed going or New England was fifth
Speaker 1: or something like that, and they, I mean, it was
Speaker 1: a track meeting out there times. I mean, the thing
Speaker 1: about it is Philly out patrioted the Patriots. If that's yeah,
Speaker 1: you can say it like that because you didn't make
Speaker 1: your quarterback reception. My quarterback made this reception right, because
Speaker 1: Brady could have almost went to the house. And I
Speaker 1: don't know what to speed like, but he could have
Speaker 1: all wented. But he's short arms it m you know.
Speaker 1: And it was a clean game too, not a lot
Speaker 1: of penalties. It was a it was a fun game
Speaker 1: to watch, like I really enjoyed. And I didn't get
Speaker 1: that part they're showing the on the NFL network, Darryl
Speaker 1: Green's carrying the super Bowl trophy, Like what, I don't
Speaker 1: get that part at the end he's the one that
Speaker 1: walked it out. Well, they've never had a super Bowl champion, right,
Speaker 1: so you you so you had to borrow Yeah, NFC
Speaker 1: e's I mean, he's an NFC. He's red skinning, a
Speaker 1: long time fan, so you you know, they're like, man,
Speaker 1: why is there Green? But they never had a super
Speaker 1: Bowl champion? So who you're gonna get? Getting to check
Speaker 1: it out? Norm Broccoli Apparently Daryl Green was the MVP
Speaker 1: the last time this year was in Minnesota. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's the tie. Yeah, well but the tie had to
Speaker 1: be an NFC's team though, Yeah, I mean, because who
Speaker 1: you're gonna get? You gonna Dann Files the ring. Hell,
Speaker 1: they should have had Nate. They should have had Nate
Speaker 1: Dudon walked that thing out. I'm I love when like
Speaker 1: you know people, man, you hate offenses. No, I like
Speaker 1: how this game was played because of them. Third down.
Speaker 1: It was an exciting game. And you've never seen so
Speaker 1: many just missed field goals or extra points, you know,
Speaker 1: just like wow, you know, do a double clutch, you
Speaker 1: know the Patriot to kick a double clutch hit you
Speaker 1: know it was. It was a good game. Yeah, super good.
Speaker 1: We uh, we have a special guest that's coming by today, right, Kurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to have Todd Williams, who handles a
Speaker 1: lot of free agency country. And what's Todd's title? Ah,
Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna look that up. I'll see
Speaker 1: if I can dig up. It's official. It's like assistant director,
Speaker 1: Player personnel or something. He's Stephen Jones's right hand man basically. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's gonna stop buying, just talk football with us. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, awesome, Well let's take a quick break. When
Speaker 1: we come back. Title be here or he'll be here
Speaker 1: shortly after. We'll talk some more super Bowl. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about what this Eagles victory means for this division a
Speaker 1: little bit when we get back, because the division just
Speaker 1: got a little tougher, and they're a young team, and
Speaker 1: I think they got most of those guys locked up
Speaker 1: the next year too. Anyway, they got a quarter locked
Speaker 1: up two thousand past two eighteen seasons, so and there
Speaker 1: arguably their best player wasn't even on the field this weekend,
Speaker 1: even though. Yeah, so we'll take a quick break when
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Speaker 1: Back to hanging with the boys. We're back in the
Speaker 1: studio at the Star Monday after the Eagles won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We'll have to get over it at some point,
Speaker 1: but I'm just not ready to get over it yet.
Speaker 1: But we are joined by Todd Williams, and Todd, I
Speaker 1: would say what your title is, but there's so many
Speaker 1: words in it. I'm gonna let you tell everybody what
Speaker 1: your title is. Well, it's a senior Director of Football
Speaker 1: Administration slash Football Operations. Okay, but I told these guys earlier,
Speaker 1: sort of Steven Jones right hand man, aren't you. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a good way to say it. Nice, simple, We
Speaker 1: see there you go. So what what what is keeping
Speaker 1: you busy right now? What are you What are you
Speaker 1: guys working on right now? Well, A lot of things
Speaker 1: we're doing right now is we're trying to get our
Speaker 1: coaching staff all set, so some contracts we've had to
Speaker 1: re up and then sometimes we're trying to find some
Speaker 1: guys to feel some positions that some guys are left.
Speaker 1: So we're still working on that. We're getting a lot
Speaker 1: closer to hopefully finalizing that, and that'll be a good
Speaker 1: thing to do and so we can get on with
Speaker 1: more important things. That whole does that delay or in
Speaker 1: a bit or keep you from doing anything else, not
Speaker 1: having the coaching staff. So no, not really, because I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, our guys in the whole scouting department with
Speaker 1: Will McClay um, they're still doing their their job of scouting,
Speaker 1: getting ready for the combine and then you know, of
Speaker 1: course then we'll go right into the draft as well.
Speaker 1: But um, with those guys, they kind of keep going
Speaker 1: in same order and their procedures, what they're doing and
Speaker 1: going through these uh, evaluating these guys. The only thing
Speaker 1: we are a little bit not behind. But we're just
Speaker 1: as a staff of doing our own evaluation of our
Speaker 1: own players. We're gonna be finishing that up hopefully this week,
Speaker 1: so it'll be a good thing. And then too, doing
Speaker 1: that with some of these new guys that we got,
Speaker 1: it gave them time to really study our own guys,
Speaker 1: which is actually really good because you're having some new
Speaker 1: guys that come in from other clubs that you know,
Speaker 1: don't have an opinion about our guy. So it's a
Speaker 1: fresh look at those guys, and it's you can get
Speaker 1: a clear message from them. So it's a that's a
Speaker 1: good thing, I think. You know, sometimes you get a
Speaker 1: little happy with your own players, you get a little
Speaker 1: clouded sometimes I think, yeah, go ahead. So we got
Speaker 1: a new offensive line coach. We have a new uh
Speaker 1: secondary coach. Okay, the new secondary coach that gentleman is
Speaker 1: have y'all decided yet, I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: sell us. Is he gonna be your past coordinator too?
Speaker 1: Defensive past coordinator too? He's just gonna be the defensive
Speaker 1: back coach. Now it's looking like he's gonna be our
Speaker 1: past coordinator as well, and which is good because you
Speaker 1: know with him being a defensive coordinator and he had
Speaker 1: a lock success up there at Seattle's Chris Richard, Yes, Richard, Yes, sorry,
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's gonna be a good fresh look
Speaker 1: for our guys, and I think we need it. And um,
Speaker 1: you know, he had a lock of success up there
Speaker 1: with when he was up there with some of those
Speaker 1: young dbs as well, which we have a lot of
Speaker 1: young dB so I think it's gonna be a real
Speaker 1: good thing. And then him with Greg Jackson, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a real good thing. Yeah, now you
Speaker 1: got we we have a wide receiver coach Sanjay sun Jay,
Speaker 1: and then we have the quarterbacks coaches more ye, so
Speaker 1: what what are we what are we lacking? The special
Speaker 1: is we have a special team coach, and so we
Speaker 1: shouldn't be lacking too much right right, we gotta need
Speaker 1: to We're still looking at tight end coach, okay, and
Speaker 1: then we're also looking at a probably assistant special teams coach,
Speaker 1: and then we're probably gonna need, um, another quality control
Speaker 1: guy on defense. I think that's more what we're looking at.
Speaker 1: What is I always hear quality control? What exactly is
Speaker 1: quality control? What is that coach? I would say, like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna use that, not degrading any money. But it's
Speaker 1: almost like when college and those gas then go for man,
Speaker 1: they do a lot of they go for Yeah, they
Speaker 1: do a lot of work. Uh, and they do a
Speaker 1: lot of work behind the scenes. And I'll tell you this,
Speaker 1: they they um, they put a lot of hours in
Speaker 1: and they work a lot, and you try to get
Speaker 1: really good ones and you want those guys to eventually
Speaker 1: move up. I mean, it's just like we looked at
Speaker 1: Ben Bloom. Ben Bloom a little bit like that when
Speaker 1: he first got here, and now he looks he's gonna
Speaker 1: be our linebackers coach. So that's a coach. Gruden started there?
Speaker 1: It did? He really? Yeah? I sure did? Uh. Greg
Speaker 1: Roman offensive coordinated for Hardball when he was at the
Speaker 1: forty nine as he was he was with the paid
Speaker 1: another paper with the Panthers. He's it's a lot of
Speaker 1: coaches start there. You know. They'll tell you. You know,
Speaker 1: because if a coach come to you and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, you come to me and say, hey, Nate,
Speaker 1: I need I need a percentage of what they do
Speaker 1: when they're in the eye formation. I need a percentage
Speaker 1: of what this quarterback like that, what is his weaknesses?
Speaker 1: And so you go and see every bad pass, every
Speaker 1: bad and that's your job. You come back maybe a
Speaker 1: day later, a couple of hours later. How quick you work?
Speaker 1: It's a hey coach here it is. Yeah. They do
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of a lot of research. Man,
Speaker 1: they do a lot of drawing cards, and yes they do.
Speaker 1: They do a lot of the dirty work, they really do,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a good way for one to get
Speaker 1: in there and start really learning it. Speaking of the
Speaker 1: dirty work, you've got kind of a cool story. I
Speaker 1: always have people that ask me how do you get
Speaker 1: into sports? How do you get into sports? And I
Speaker 1: always tell them do whatever you can do just to
Speaker 1: be around the organizations or you know whatever. You're trying
Speaker 1: to get your foot in the door. Do whatever you
Speaker 1: can do. So you you played football at Tennessee, right, yep, yep,
Speaker 1: And then tell us how you got involved with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and how that your career kind of got going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's a start off. I was supposed to be
Speaker 1: here an internship. I got it through actually Larry Lacewell.
Speaker 1: He actually recruited me at University of Tennessee. Well, he
Speaker 1: left to come to the Cowboys. He left about three
Speaker 1: days before I was going to report, and so I
Speaker 1: ended up still going to Tennessee. Anyway, when it came
Speaker 1: down I had to do an internship, finished my degree.
Speaker 1: I called him and said, look, you owe me. You
Speaker 1: know I need an internship, and I said that's all
Speaker 1: I need, just so I get me a green because okay, great, great,
Speaker 1: we'll get it. So I got it through here. I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be here for six weeks during training
Speaker 1: camp in Austin, and that was in ninety five, and
Speaker 1: I've I've never left, so I guess I did something right.
Speaker 1: I drove the car really good, filled up water bottles.
Speaker 1: Weren't you like putting up windows or something? We ten
Speaker 1: fall on the windows and foil on the windows. With
Speaker 1: all the meeting rooms in Austin there, um filling up
Speaker 1: the big water jug five gallon water jugs, um, running airports,
Speaker 1: food runs, whatever it takes, just whatever you needed to do,
Speaker 1: right And see that on which my brother, cause I
Speaker 1: came in uh ninety eighty six and uh and supposed
Speaker 1: to be cut within the first week. But I'm I'm
Speaker 1: still I'm roam ride with y'all. You do what it takes. Man,
Speaker 1: if you sincere about your career, and if people would
Speaker 1: notice dedicated workers, yeah, you know, if you if you
Speaker 1: always And then he one to just here filling water
Speaker 1: about it is he getting to know what was going on?
Speaker 1: He watching and so when somebody said, hey, man, what
Speaker 1: do you thought about this time? He had a vatted
Speaker 1: opinion and what was your degree in sports management? Okay,
Speaker 1: in the minor and business, but that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: what I did in like that first year. He said, well,
Speaker 1: once you come back, you can help get moved in
Speaker 1: because you know, back then we took so much stuff.
Speaker 1: And then so I said, yeah, I live here, I
Speaker 1: can do that. So I would just walk around to
Speaker 1: different departments and ask if they needed help, because longer
Speaker 1: they needed help, I get to stay. So I ended
Speaker 1: up being a little a little longer that whole year,
Speaker 1: and so I ended up staying the whole year, and
Speaker 1: then we were actually going to get ready for a
Speaker 1: training camp the next year. And then that's when Stephen
Speaker 1: actually pulled me in his office said look, I think
Speaker 1: I want you to learn how I want you to
Speaker 1: work for me. Learn the CBA do contracts. And so
Speaker 1: I was like, well, great, that's I'd really love to
Speaker 1: do that, but I just need you to know something.
Speaker 1: I don't have a law degreeing he goes, well, either
Speaker 1: do I, but you can figure it out, okay. And
Speaker 1: the cool thing about Todd is he does all these
Speaker 1: contracts and he works with the player's side, and he's
Speaker 1: but after the games. He's walking around the locker room
Speaker 1: picking up clothes and putting them in the bin and
Speaker 1: helping the equipment guys get packed up, and like Todd
Speaker 1: does it all. Like there's no job too big or
Speaker 1: too small for Todd. And what amazement is I'm thinking
Speaker 1: he doesn't graduated so far, you know, because I've watched
Speaker 1: him come all the way up. And then I said, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a parking place to place to park,
Speaker 1: you know. We First I was like, go to Todd.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's tyre we. I don't even know this
Speaker 1: cat day right, Okay, he got me on parking place.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I don't need it now. He got
Speaker 1: me a parking place over and went to play. I'm like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot of DoD. I mean he does
Speaker 1: everything you just uh. Another fun thing was especially when
Speaker 1: we're building this complex here, this star are It's it
Speaker 1: was fun because I got to be a big part
Speaker 1: of that and help design the football side of it.
Speaker 1: And that was really a fun, fun project. A lot
Speaker 1: of work, but it was fun. How involved were you
Speaker 1: in that, like the late were you involved in like
Speaker 1: the layout and this should go here and here and that.
Speaker 1: How how was that process I got to go in
Speaker 1: Basically the first meetings we ever had was even mister
Speaker 1: Jones and Stephen and Charlotte and Jerry Junior and all
Speaker 1: of them, and how they they're envision of this place
Speaker 1: from day one, concept everything, And then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden we just sit down and with the architects and
Speaker 1: really go okay, we want this here and training room
Speaker 1: here and lockers here, and did you guys visit other
Speaker 1: facilities and take ideas? And yes we did. And so
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny because you know, when Jerry built
Speaker 1: a T T stadium, he went all the way all
Speaker 1: over the country, looked at different stadium, soccer stams, everything,
Speaker 1: and he just cherry pick different things. So we kind
Speaker 1: of did the same thing. Went to a lot of
Speaker 1: different facilities, colleges, the top colleges, the programs and their facilities,
Speaker 1: and you'd see different things. You're like, oh, I like
Speaker 1: this idea, so kind of just put it in the
Speaker 1: back of your mind. Takes what was the coolest thing
Speaker 1: you saw? That's Douglas, That ain't god that you managed
Speaker 1: to get incorporated into the Star. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: things I'll tell you this though. Um our layout is
Speaker 1: a lot kind of like the Jets, because the Jets
Speaker 1: have an indoor facility, not like ours, of course, but
Speaker 1: it's indoor, and then their facilities kind of go along
Speaker 1: the whole side of it. And some of the things
Speaker 1: they did there, we just took it to a different level. Um,
Speaker 1: we did it do a lot of that. Now. Everybody
Speaker 1: hears about the University of Oregon that that is a
Speaker 1: impressive place. And I understand how they get some of
Speaker 1: the recruits they do, because if a college kid or
Speaker 1: a high school kid goes there as a recruit, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you don't walk out there without signing
Speaker 1: just because the facilities and it's all Nike. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why they call it Nike you But it's a
Speaker 1: It is a very impressive. They did a unbelievable job there.
Speaker 1: It's had. I want to thank you for being real
Speaker 1: smooth with what you just did, because he would have
Speaker 1: killed him because he said that's Nike and they said
Speaker 1: that's why they called it Nike. You you easy today
Speaker 1: he would have crushed him for saying that, what do
Speaker 1: you what do you think is that he would have
Speaker 1: crushed him so thank you for that. I'm a mean person.
Speaker 1: Show you. I got a question now with free agency
Speaker 1: coming up. I know your department and you and guys
Speaker 1: beneath you work a lot on the contracts. How much
Speaker 1: are you involved in that evaluation process? I mean like
Speaker 1: coaches kind of say we need this guy, and you're like,
Speaker 1: how do you guys fit in with? How this all
Speaker 1: puzzle bag? Yeah? Well it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a process of it. But I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: you got guys, you gotta you gotta fit into your cap.
Speaker 1: You got your needs right, you always have your needs
Speaker 1: your once and Okay, we're gonna do this, and uh,
Speaker 1: you just got to figure out how it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's not a pinpoint deal like, oh
Speaker 1: we got to get this guy, Well, yeah, we'd like
Speaker 1: to have that guy. But one thing about free agency
Speaker 1: is sometimes you can overpay very easily and free ac
Speaker 1: and that sometimes you you might pay your own guys
Speaker 1: because you know them, but if you go out and
Speaker 1: try to get somebody else and go to them as well.
Speaker 1: And there's some things that has that philosophy changed a
Speaker 1: little since Brandon car he seems like the last really
Speaker 1: big free agents. I think you just got to really
Speaker 1: pick the guys that you think is gonna help you
Speaker 1: and how you're going to use those guys. And it's
Speaker 1: a it's is it's a big You're making a big
Speaker 1: commitment when you're going out on pre ac, especially spending
Speaker 1: on top free agents, you're making a big commitment. So
Speaker 1: when when you all up making a decision on a
Speaker 1: player that's say, you know that's already with us, may
Speaker 1: have a contract, may not have a contract. How many
Speaker 1: heads get in there, missus Jones stealing you? How many
Speaker 1: heads are in about four or five? Will McLay and yeah,
Speaker 1: coach Garrett as well, and you just you, I think
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of guys that do a lot
Speaker 1: of research and a bunch of scouting and they kind
Speaker 1: of get their reports together. Then the people are making
Speaker 1: decisions gets a little smaller than you. Then you see
Speaker 1: how it's gonna work. If it's gonna work, then you
Speaker 1: go from there, and then mister Jones always has the
Speaker 1: final say, of course, right, wow, what do you do
Speaker 1: with with draft coming up? What's your involvement with the draft?
Speaker 1: What all do you do around draft? I just more
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I said, and listen, so
Speaker 1: I don't like senior Bowls, like my first look as
Speaker 1: college guys. Then we kind of moved to m the combine.
Speaker 1: Then that's when you get another big look at these
Speaker 1: things like that. And then then really when you get
Speaker 1: really into the details of the draft preparation in April,
Speaker 1: those three weeks that we just basically live in the
Speaker 1: war room, that's when you just get to really know
Speaker 1: the guys. And then, like you say, sometimes you can
Speaker 1: learn a lot by just listening, and you can learn
Speaker 1: a lot from these guys who actually go out and
Speaker 1: scout these guys, watch them, watch a lot of tape,
Speaker 1: and they give a good, good report and you get
Speaker 1: a good field for them. Yeah, when you bring guys
Speaker 1: in for in person interviews like the weeks leading up
Speaker 1: to the draft, like the thirty visits, Yeah, the thirty visits,
Speaker 1: how much does that play into you know? Their personalities?
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like a normal job. If a
Speaker 1: guy can play, he can play, and you know you'll
Speaker 1: deal with whatever else normal job, you kind of they
Speaker 1: have to fit with your group and your team. Does
Speaker 1: that translate to football as well or is it, Oh,
Speaker 1: I think so. I think you have to have a
Speaker 1: guy that can mingle and interact with all your guys
Speaker 1: and you you hopefully you know your guys and if
Speaker 1: there's a question a lot of time of those thirty visits,
Speaker 1: it's really not. You know the players and as you
Speaker 1: watch the tape, if they can play, then play, like
Speaker 1: you said. But if you've got a question about them anything,
Speaker 1: or you need to really check them out someone a
Speaker 1: physical things like that, that's when you bring them in.
Speaker 1: You can ask questions, you can work with them. You
Speaker 1: can also put them on the board to see if hey,
Speaker 1: they pick up football well they know what you're doing
Speaker 1: and how quickly can they fit pick up your scheme
Speaker 1: and think it's a good way to do it. And
Speaker 1: you can learn a lot from those those thirty visits.
Speaker 1: And like you say, you don't bring in we don't
Speaker 1: bring in guys that are top players. We bring them
Speaker 1: in from guys can be drafted or even undrafted guys.
Speaker 1: If you have a question about them, whatever, you like
Speaker 1: some things about them, you want to know more about them,
Speaker 1: that's when you bring them in and talk to them.
Speaker 1: So who are we taking in the draft? Who are
Speaker 1: we signing a free agent. That's a good question. Hell
Speaker 1: you'll we'll reconvene a little later and maybe we'll know
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Okay, and I almost forgotten this time.
Speaker 1: Bear with me. How much does and this has been
Speaker 1: big for us the last few years, dead money and
Speaker 1: cap money that we all read, Oh, doesn't that mean
Speaker 1: a lot somewhat? You have to take either out of
Speaker 1: the rookie pool if that's possible. All you have to say,
Speaker 1: we can't go out and get this right free agent.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't take meaning out of the rookie pool.
Speaker 1: So the rookie pools its own little little deal. But
Speaker 1: what it does, it does it takes it out of
Speaker 1: your your big your big number there. What's the rookie pool. Well,
Speaker 1: it's for all the draft picks you get. It's you
Speaker 1: get a certain amount, certain amount, and it's it's it's
Speaker 1: been this new rookie pool system that we have has
Speaker 1: been really good because it's does it how it's supposed to.
Speaker 1: You know, the young guys are gonna get paid, but
Speaker 1: not like they used to. I mean it used to
Speaker 1: be with crazy these guys, these quarterbacks would be the
Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback and aim and throwing the passing the
Speaker 1: NFL yet so it's it's better. It's a lot better,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot better. And then but if you do,
Speaker 1: like Nate was asking about this dead money, if you
Speaker 1: have people that have been here gone, you have a
Speaker 1: lot of dead money. It takes away from some of
Speaker 1: these things that you might not be able to do
Speaker 1: in free agency because you don't have the cap space anymore.
Speaker 1: Are you in a little bit of a window or
Speaker 1: is there any sense of urgency because you've got Dak
Speaker 1: right now, a pretty team friendly deal where that's not
Speaker 1: you're not even gonna have that luxury. I mean, is
Speaker 1: there some is there? Are you in a window now?
Speaker 1: You need really need to take advantage of it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean you you you have to. But you know
Speaker 1: Dacks deal is gonna be coming up here pretty soon
Speaker 1: as well. Um, we got to look at the you know,
Speaker 1: Zach Martin as well. Um is that hal stringing any uh?
Speaker 1: I mean I think hopefully we've done some projections and
Speaker 1: things and we've set things up to kind of take
Speaker 1: care of these things. And that's kind of hope we
Speaker 1: um in our plan, that's what we've you know, planned
Speaker 1: out that you got to take these care of things
Speaker 1: different years, and uh, so far so good. We just
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta get work on Zach and hopefully get
Speaker 1: come to agreement on that thing. Okay, Uh we we
Speaker 1: here know how busy your schedule us all year long?
Speaker 1: What is what is your what is your vacation indead time? Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see, we'll take mid June to mid July. So
Speaker 1: after the mini camp, everything kind of really calms down,
Speaker 1: coaches go on vacation, everybody kind of takes a deep breath.
Speaker 1: Then you kind of come right back right before we
Speaker 1: get to and the way the contracts have been for
Speaker 1: the rookies, you can get them done real quick and
Speaker 1: so you get a little time there mid June to
Speaker 1: mid July. Okay, Now my quick question is what what
Speaker 1: what's the issue with you got your first round picks?
Speaker 1: Do they have five years? All first round picks are
Speaker 1: the first ten foot picks and then the second year guys.
Speaker 1: Because it's always oh the issue where the second or
Speaker 1: third round guys want to hang out because is it
Speaker 1: structure of contract? It's more now it's becoming more structure
Speaker 1: of contract and it's more you know, um, guess the
Speaker 1: West Way to say is that it is it's the structure.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the language, sometimes it's offset. It's just depends
Speaker 1: on teams and how they do things and um and
Speaker 1: and and basically total package of their deal. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a little bit of movement in there,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of changing every every year. It seems like,
Speaker 1: you know, you get more and more guaranteed, and its
Speaker 1: starting to flow into the second round now and third
Speaker 1: rounds as well. So it's just so all first rounds,
Speaker 1: y'all have the option of the fifth year, yes, and
Speaker 1: then the second round is usually go four years impossible
Speaker 1: fifth just four year deals, all right? I need to
Speaker 1: know that because I thought it was maybe the first
Speaker 1: fifteen Yeah, I thought it was just the first fifteen
Speaker 1: picks had that five year deal, you know. And uh,
Speaker 1: but it's the whole first round and then the fourth
Speaker 1: in the second round is four years, right. Okay. So
Speaker 1: when you drafting and you see a guy you like,
Speaker 1: do you ever say, okay, can we pull him back
Speaker 1: into the into the uh first round? Uh? You just
Speaker 1: let it fall high fall, I would say, I would
Speaker 1: tend to say we like to usually let it fallward
Speaker 1: it falls because then sometimes you can if you move
Speaker 1: a guy up and you think he's really a second rounder,
Speaker 1: and then you've also put him in the first round,
Speaker 1: your money getting Yeah, I mean you're starting to okay
Speaker 1: when you have a guy trust your board rather you
Speaker 1: know what, now, now you open up the door. Do
Speaker 1: you trust your board? Do we really trust our board
Speaker 1: as the NFL team? I think I think it's uh here,
Speaker 1: here we go because I gotta go. I mean I
Speaker 1: always say you you really need to trust your board. Now,
Speaker 1: there's a certain things that sometimes it come into play
Speaker 1: and you gotta you have to make adjustments, and you
Speaker 1: gotta make a judgments on the fly because you might
Speaker 1: really like a player and you're like set on him
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he gets taken and
Speaker 1: you're up. So you better have yeah, playing B and C.
Speaker 1: I've seen it. Do you have any cool war room
Speaker 1: stories over the years that you can share any anything
Speaker 1: that jumps out. I mean, we've had some interesting conversations.
Speaker 1: Probably won't get into those, but uh, you know we've
Speaker 1: had some even go back to the Roy Williams or
Speaker 1: safety and during that draft and things like that, and
Speaker 1: you know, we said we're gonna do a trade and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, what would you call the league?
Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, I need to do that in
Speaker 1: time's getting really tight. And uh, but there's there's always
Speaker 1: some fun things every draft. There's probably some five or
Speaker 1: six things that happened. Oh yeah, like your phone number.
Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted out a phone number last year. They should
Speaker 1: have you know, hired that idiot. I can talk about that.
Speaker 1: So one more question. We know you got to go.
Speaker 1: So when you have free agents, say like a you know,
Speaker 1: an Anthony Hitchens or Zach Martin or something like that,
Speaker 1: and you don't have to we don't have to name
Speaker 1: a specific player. But how does that process start? Like
Speaker 1: what what's the behind the scenes? Does Does Big Jerry
Speaker 1: reach out to those guys and say, hey, we need
Speaker 1: to start talking about this contract. Do you are you
Speaker 1: the guy that goes to them? Do you go to
Speaker 1: their agent? Do you go directly to them? How does
Speaker 1: how does all that work? It? Uh, it's different. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of times though, either Stephen or me
Speaker 1: or even at him. We go in there and if
Speaker 1: there's somebody if our own players, we can talk to
Speaker 1: other players we can't really talk to yet and if
Speaker 1: it's our own guys, we can kind of start laying
Speaker 1: the foundation down, see what it's gonna take or what
Speaker 1: we think is gonna be. And then how do you
Speaker 1: do that? Do you just go in locker room and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you got a few minutes stop by the office, or
Speaker 1: do you just agent Hey, yeah, more of the agents? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you know, like I mean, Andy Hitchings would
Speaker 1: be a great one. That's a great example. I mean,
Speaker 1: love him to death. He's been great for us, and
Speaker 1: would love to keep him if we can. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at it. I don't know if we're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to, but we'd love to keep him.
Speaker 1: He's been a great player for us. Very cool, Kurt,
Speaker 1: you got any parting questions, sir? Let him appreciate you
Speaker 1: stopping by today. Yeah, man, this was awesome. Appreciate it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have to get you to come buy more often.
Speaker 1: So thanks Todd for the time. You know you're busy,
Speaker 1: you gotta go get stuff done, so the doors open
Speaker 1: anytime you want to stop by. We're gonna take a break.
Speaker 1: He didn't tell yaga jump on his Harley Man and
Speaker 1: go up to Oregon. In all these places Oh that's right.
Speaker 1: You guys are biking buddies right now. Wow, I've never
Speaker 1: rolled with him. I got rid of mine. I'm too old, man,
Speaker 1: I'm brittled now I'm fifty six. I'm too old. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's all fun. Yeah, it's fun, but I ain't did well.
Speaker 1: Thanks Todd, appreciate it. We'll go take a quick break
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Speaker 1: That was that was fun, Kurt, Yeah, thanks for doing more.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, man, mister Stephen Jones, ever Swalls
Speaker 1: do we have ever? Micaeldown excuse me? H? I mean
Speaker 1: Chris Hall? Chris Hall? Me? Wow? Who got us? I
Speaker 1: think it wasn't me? Was it? You? Kurt uched him once?
Speaker 1: But I think Shannon sealed the deal. Chris. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, Douglas, come on man, I thought it was Nate.
Speaker 1: Let's give the credit to these guys that really did
Speaker 1: the work. Okay, now we are Hey, brother, y'all done
Speaker 1: great jobs of bringing in great people to say you
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Speaker 1: YouTube babbas who books him? Babba bets I don't know
Speaker 1: who booked him, but I know he booked out on
Speaker 1: us for doubt. Yeahs out you got you got Will
Speaker 1: during training camp. That was a great get and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get it. We're gonna We're gonna touch one thing
Speaker 1: that I think that you do a great job. And
Speaker 1: all you guys are is nobody's off limits to us.
Speaker 1: That's right, you know. And I got the big man
Speaker 1: in here. We've asked him to go. We've asked tough questions,
Speaker 1: We've asked fun questions. We keep it fun with the
Speaker 1: players because during the season we don't need them bog
Speaker 1: down with crazy stuff. Yeah, but doing off season, we've
Speaker 1: talked draft, we've talked to hard decisions. And for those
Speaker 1: of you listening, Todd is the most down to earth person.
Speaker 1: But he's a big deal. Like he's he is Steven's
Speaker 1: legit right hand man. Like if Steven needs you know,
Speaker 1: he did like we said on the show, he does contracts.
Speaker 1: But you know he does the playlist that practice for
Speaker 1: the music. He's got one of his guys does that.
Speaker 1: That's how you know. Like Nate was saying he needed
Speaker 1: a parking place out here. Todd, Todd, your guy Todd
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I know this guy, I've heard his name.
Speaker 1: You know, this is real. It's hard, you know, And
Speaker 1: I'm serious because and this is where a lot of
Speaker 1: people mess up. Because if they saw him in ninety
Speaker 1: five and they come back and see him now, they
Speaker 1: would try to handle him like the ninety five guy.
Speaker 1: He's way, way, way more than a ninety five guy.
Speaker 1: So if he was to stop and look at you
Speaker 1: like you need to go see this persons and you
Speaker 1: find out it's like eight people down below him, then
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, just messed up. And for everybody that
Speaker 1: always you know, everybody asked how do you get in sports?
Speaker 1: How do you get in sports? You don't have to
Speaker 1: have a law degree, Like Todd said, he didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about contracts. He didn't have a legal background. You know,
Speaker 1: he was putting tenfold on. When does the training camp?
Speaker 1: And look what happened? What's the young lady name that
Speaker 1: does all the feminie coach Garrett and practices Rocks We're
Speaker 1: gonna bring home? Yeah, Ross, anything to be a part of.
Speaker 1: So I want you, I want you to hear her story. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to get Rocks in. Rocks is also shot
Speaker 1: outside of it's hard to get to get on. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah she hard. But we're gonna we're gonna get her.
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep going out thing here you right now
Speaker 1: because our walls are pretty paper. Ten yeah, oh really
Speaker 1: we need to get her because brother, I gotta give
Speaker 1: it to you on that because if you if you
Speaker 1: want a piece of the cowboys and they give you
Speaker 1: a crack in the door, you got to be willing
Speaker 1: to do the little things first, you know, and lawyers,
Speaker 1: it plays a part with these people. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: don't just be willing to do it. Go seek it out. Yea?
Speaker 1: What can I do? Like? What can don't just wait
Speaker 1: on it to come to you? Like if you get
Speaker 1: a shot? You know, volunteer for and this is really
Speaker 1: with any team, you know, volunteer for everything weekend, Say hey,
Speaker 1: what can I do over the weekend to do this?
Speaker 1: Like like I said, Todd after the games, he's in
Speaker 1: there picking up sweaty jocks off the ground, putting them
Speaker 1: in the clothes hamper, you know, just doing whatever he
Speaker 1: can do to play a part and multitask and all that. Man,
Speaker 1: if he see this thing about it is he see
Speaker 1: the guys working and he's just joined in. That's a
Speaker 1: different type person. Yeah. Together, when you see somebody doing something,
Speaker 1: you just joined in, you know, like I see a deal.
Speaker 1: I never said, Man, we ain't doing it part of it.
Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, I'm mastered these guys doing this. It's
Speaker 1: just joined in. Yeah, you know, And uh, that's what
Speaker 1: I've always believed too. You just joined in. You know,
Speaker 1: if how are you going to go to overse the equipment?
Speaker 1: Guys they hustling trying to get this place cleaned up
Speaker 1: so they can either get back over here or they
Speaker 1: can get on the plane and come on, bro join
Speaker 1: in and make this process easier. So when you ask
Speaker 1: them for the extra set of jerseys or shoes, they're
Speaker 1: throw them in. There was no problem, yep, this citizen.
Speaker 1: This dudes let us work four hours, just the way
Speaker 1: he stood around four hours. Just wait, hey, man, I
Speaker 1: get some shoes. Come on. I'm glad you brought you
Speaker 1: brought that up about this organization because I actually had
Speaker 1: this conversation with Chris Beam this morning and here I
Speaker 1: can't remember how we got started talking. We talked about
Speaker 1: people ask us all the time, what's it? What's Oh?
Speaker 1: We were talking about Hall of Fame and like how
Speaker 1: you know when Jerry got it, you know, the Jones
Speaker 1: got inducted in everything, and how that process was, and
Speaker 1: you know, people got to see him actually in a
Speaker 1: different light, because if you look at him from afar,
Speaker 1: you get one perception. But then once you you you're
Speaker 1: around him and you get to o him, he's it's
Speaker 1: usually completely different. And people always ask us, you know,
Speaker 1: what's it like to work for for Jerry Jones. It's awesome,
Speaker 1: Like it's He's the family is a le legit good
Speaker 1: family and they care about people, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: I always say it's it's a billion dollar organization, but
Speaker 1: it's run like a mom and pop grocery store in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Your one phone call away from the family, your one visit,
Speaker 1: you know. They I was telling Chris, it's like if
Speaker 1: we needed to, we could call Maryland and say, hey,
Speaker 1: I really need to talk to Jerry and you could
Speaker 1: probably get on his calendar. I would not do that, ever,
Speaker 1: would never do that, but I mean you could. You
Speaker 1: could get on his calendar. So I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: a cool it's a cool deal. And just you know, Nate,
Speaker 1: you've lived it, you played here, and then you're still
Speaker 1: around and even real people of power, everybody is not accessible,
Speaker 1: you know, most people of power, most people that run
Speaker 1: a billion dollar corporation, you know, they won't even look
Speaker 1: at you. Yeah, there's a lot of layers to get Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I tell people, I say, don't don't you know
Speaker 1: a lot of things. You don't agree with miss Jones doing?
Speaker 1: How you hunting? His business? But just say hello, how
Speaker 1: you doing? I ain't never seen him not speak, right,
Speaker 1: That's the basic way to get hey, how you doing? Hello?
Speaker 1: That's that's the basic way. Right. I've seen him walk
Speaker 1: through here. A tour is going through the building, and
Speaker 1: he walks by with Roosevelt going from and running a
Speaker 1: hundred miles and they'll stop and say hi to everybody.
Speaker 1: And then if somebody asked for a picture and autograph,
Speaker 1: you know, they're not supposed to. I know I'm not
Speaker 1: better than me because I mean, I gotta go. It's
Speaker 1: just amazing, you know. And everybody sees people differently, you know,
Speaker 1: And you don't want nothing to happen to mister Jones.
Speaker 1: I tell you, because the dynamics of this will change.
Speaker 1: Because I loved mister Stephen Jones loved the daughter and everything,
Speaker 1: but the man that makes it click and everybody follows
Speaker 1: his his his model model of how do you do
Speaker 1: think that this mister Jones and his Jones and his
Speaker 1: understanding it still blows me away. His understanding of technology
Speaker 1: and you know, what's the new thing and what's the
Speaker 1: popular thing, and how he can even though he holds
Speaker 1: onto his flip phone. You know what I think said that.
Speaker 1: I think he actually got upgraded to I think he
Speaker 1: finally started an iPhone. I think I saw that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: just just the way he's still so forward and ahead
Speaker 1: of still ahead of his time. You know, for sure,
Speaker 1: I hear stories all the time about he's in meetings
Speaker 1: and he'll just stop and be like, well what if
Speaker 1: we did this? And everybody's like, wow, I never even
Speaker 1: thought of that. And it's it's a cool deal man,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a cool place to work. The sad
Speaker 1: thing about it about all of this right here, is
Speaker 1: you when is enough enough? With him? Is never ever?
Speaker 1: And it ain't talking about the money. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about making it bigger and better. Right you know, it
Speaker 1: comes upoint where you think how big and better can
Speaker 1: it get? You know, and he's always looking for a
Speaker 1: way to make it a little bit easier, a little
Speaker 1: bit bigger, a little bit better. But he also keeps
Speaker 1: it simple, you know, he all you know, he keeps
Speaker 1: it very simple on how you do things. That's why
Speaker 1: I'll saying he finally got rid of this flip phone
Speaker 1: because flip phone, even though it's modern, it was simple
Speaker 1: old man hitting it over and here you go. And
Speaker 1: the thing about that native is everybody's like, well, he
Speaker 1: just wants more money. And he look, he he's got
Speaker 1: so many other businesses the outside of about If he
Speaker 1: wants to make money, that's money. He does all this stuff,
Speaker 1: he legit does it for the fans and for the experience.
Speaker 1: That's why they built the Star. It's not to make
Speaker 1: more money, you know, It's to create a destination that's
Speaker 1: unlike any other where. Fans when they come in town,
Speaker 1: they can go and they can they can see and
Speaker 1: touch and be around the cowboys. That's why we do
Speaker 1: tours of this place is because he wants to share
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys brand and experiences. See. One thing I've
Speaker 1: always understood about him is if you give people what
Speaker 1: they want, the money is not an issue. If you
Speaker 1: give people better than what they want. They literally forget
Speaker 1: about the money. And that's what that's what he tries
Speaker 1: to do, give you better than what you When when
Speaker 1: we talk about, hey, you need to see the Star,
Speaker 1: the people I've brought over here, once they left, they'd
Speaker 1: be like wow, really for real? You know? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: most people pay for this here free. All right. You
Speaker 1: meant like a lot of things mister Jones doing and
Speaker 1: how he do things, but it ain't a lot of
Speaker 1: it ain't selfish because, like you said, I was talking
Speaker 1: to one of his guys, one of his computer guys
Speaker 1: that runs all the computers for him, you know, through
Speaker 1: all of his Oh like god, hey, man must be
Speaker 1: something else. And I'm thinking about the Star in ATNT
Speaker 1: and thinking about the Fords and then man, but to
Speaker 1: be able to run the Star and the run the
Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium, and he like, yeah, and the
Speaker 1: sixty other businesses he had, yeah, the old gas Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, he said, I'm mobile all of that too,
Speaker 1: and I'm and and you know what, I started to dig,
Speaker 1: but I said, you know what, I'm not finish. Because
Speaker 1: we was at the Hall of Fame down that in
Speaker 1: the Look Party in the area, mister Jones that like,
Speaker 1: I'll be here the whole Hall of Fame trying to
Speaker 1: figure out these different businesses. Forget it. I'll just stick aware. So, Kurt,
Speaker 1: you you came from the Rangers, the Stars. How long
Speaker 1: have you been here? Now I've been This will be
Speaker 1: my tenthire hit here. What's the biggest difference or is
Speaker 1: there a difference between like those other organizations in this
Speaker 1: organization when it comes to like an employee standpoint, Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's one. It's just bigger. It's a definitely
Speaker 1: bigger stage for sure. But also I was surprised when
Speaker 1: I came here just how hands on they are and
Speaker 1: how involved not only mister Jones Senior, but Stephen, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: Jerry Junior as well. I mean, they're all a part
Speaker 1: of this, and it is it's a family business for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a we need to get You need
Speaker 1: to get Charlotte on because she's got a great story
Speaker 1: how she got involved in the business and the cheerleader
Speaker 1: part and all that part. Grown. Yeah, yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to get ahead of a cheerleader in here too, Kelly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to get her in here on her own.
Speaker 1: That with a cheer. We don't need a cheerleader, you know,
Speaker 1: because I want you guys to focus. You know. So
Speaker 1: you're saying Kelly's not attractive? Is that what your She
Speaker 1: looks good? But because you worked with him in Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't want no problems, bro, I'm gonna bring you
Speaker 1: on the cheer I'm gonna bring you guys. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: doing We moved it up to an hour and we're
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays, I think two to three. So yeah, we
Speaker 1: have two cheerleaders on. In fact, I think I think
Speaker 1: Kelly's gonna be on this Wednesday. I believe, or we're
Speaker 1: trying to get her on this Wednesday. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's fun, a lot of fun, A lot
Speaker 1: more fun than hanging out with you. God. Man, they
Speaker 1: ain't have better guests than us, so I ain't worry
Speaker 1: about it. No, oh they have not who you know what?
Speaker 1: And all of our guests where would your boss fit?
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton and all of our guess bottom He doesn't
Speaker 1: listen to this show Dead Last. He doesn't. I've tried
Speaker 1: to get him on the show before. He doesn't want
Speaker 1: to come on the show. He came on, Yeah, not willingly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he laughed. I think he was only three
Speaker 1: minutes and he's like, I gotta go. He did quit? Man,
Speaker 1: who got time from? Who? Who are we getting next? Who?
Speaker 1: How are we going to top this run of guests
Speaker 1: that we've had? Telling you, man, it ain't about topping it.
Speaker 1: It's about nobody's offering. We need to get the young
Speaker 1: lady over here and Rob Kelly. Yeah, we need to
Speaker 1: get Kelly and Rocks because well, I think you guys
Speaker 1: has done a great job at his giving people a
Speaker 1: plethora of different personalities that we give you from. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying nobody has hired Lord than nobody, but
Speaker 1: we're giving you every level of what the cowboys had offered.
Speaker 1: That's what you guys have brought. So, oh yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a different level player. There's a lot of different levels.
Speaker 1: So where's Kurt fitting it below? I'm luck on the show. No, Kurt,
Speaker 1: we're lucky that you're on this show. Oh stop it? Okay,
Speaker 1: well fellas, it's been fun. Kurt. Hey, Kurt, why why'd
Speaker 1: you cut that off? Let me get that anymore? Play
Speaker 1: that for Kurt Man. Come throw the cool guys who
Speaker 1: you know you're trying to mellowed. Somebody out there likes
Speaker 1: me thinks, oh, we need to open up the phones next.
Speaker 1: That's true. We haven't talked to the fans. We tried
Speaker 1: last week and then we got we got a couple
Speaker 1: of Philly fans. We need to have them call. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll do that next. We'll do that next Monday of Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Y'all in trouble. The phones probably aren't working up there
Speaker 1: because they probably burned all the cell towers down last night.
Speaker 1: So I think we need to figure something out. You know,
Speaker 1: the Eagles didn't want a Super Bowl in the entire
Speaker 1: history of the NFL until this show played. Fly Eagles,
Speaker 1: Fly Stop it stop open a show stop. It got
Speaker 1: size that somehow we've got to do something before next
Speaker 1: season to get rid of that. Shoot you, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blame this on Drew Pearson for poking the
Speaker 1: Eagles fans with the stairs during the draft. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming it. Probably a little more high profile, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit. So you know what, I actually got
Speaker 1: the clip from one oh five three of Emmett at
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Um, did y'all hear that? He he
Speaker 1: we'll play that next week. I'll let this Eagles talk
Speaker 1: simmer down a little bit. But he They had him
Speaker 1: on one oh five three, our flagship station, at Media
Speaker 1: Days or whatever when the all the players media row
Speaker 1: make the make the rounds and some Eagles fans were
Speaker 1: standing behind them and they were saying Dallas sucks and
Speaker 1: all this, and Emmett wasn't having it, and he stood
Speaker 1: up and he let them know what's up. It's a
Speaker 1: It is awesome and I'm so mad that they won
Speaker 1: because we were gonna do something with it on social
Speaker 1: media this week and he's still gonna do something with him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it on the show. Get rid of it. Well, Kurt,
Speaker 1: thanks for showing up. Nate, thanks for bringing it, Douglas,
Speaker 1: thank you, Ty Williams, thanks for pushing the buttons. Special
Speaker 1: shout out to Todd Williams. That was awesome. Kent, thanks
Speaker 1: for doing what you do and we will be back
Speaker 1: next Monday at eleven o'clock on Hanging with the Boys.
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