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Speaker 1: Before listening, ask good doctor, if your heart is healthy

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Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and

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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross Monday after the Super Bowl. Hell of a game?

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Speaker 1: Hell of a game? Where'd you watch it? Kurt? I

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Speaker 1: just was at home. I just I didn't. I kept

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Speaker 1: to Christie's Sports Bar hung out with my friends. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and all the obnoxious Eagle fans that were in there

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Speaker 1: It wasn't. It was crowded. I didn't have a seat

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Speaker 1: little bit late, a little bit after kickoff. Where'd you

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Speaker 1: watch it? Nate? In my car? First, the first three

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Speaker 1: quarters I watched in my car. I mean I listened

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Speaker 1: getting them. I like to listen to a guy describe it,

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Speaker 1: It was a good game, man. Yeah, you missed so

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Speaker 1: you missed the halftime shows and I still ain't watching that,

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Speaker 1: and I went I went back this morning while I

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Speaker 1: through all that. I don't want to see your wife.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see you, your your cousin. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see your singing. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see your commercials. I'm you know, I look at you know,

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Speaker 1: I look at the super Bowl. Like I told you guys,

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Speaker 1: if every game I can get emotional, you know, every game,

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Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, the NFC Championship game, the divisional rounds,

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Speaker 1: I can get I can be going, But the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: I just look at I look at it for just

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Speaker 1: just analyzing it, you know, calling what I think is

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Speaker 1: what's necessary, seeing how the coaches thinking, seeing what the

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Speaker 1: just cold and emotionless. Now if the Cowboys, when the

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Speaker 1: because I like, I don't want the Super Bowl to

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Speaker 1: not aware of it. And when you when you're a fan,

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Speaker 1: you just holling and you are you just screaming and

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Speaker 1: you know, and every players are you know, you're either

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Speaker 1: of a roller coast. I don't ride like that. Not

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Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. I liked. I like to feel

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Speaker 1: every moment. Yeah. I listened to a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of former player interviews throughout the week. You know,

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Speaker 1: ask the guys that they played in the Super Bowl before,

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Speaker 1: what's the one thing that that you would do different?

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Speaker 1: And they were all like, just enjoy it, like step

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Speaker 1: back and not let it past you so fast. That's saying.

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Speaker 1: It's like be aware of what all is going on,

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Speaker 1: saying Westwood One has six hundred and twenty eight stations

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Speaker 1: Dudon walked that thing out. I'm I love when like

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Speaker 1: how this game was played because of them. Third down.

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Speaker 1: It was an exciting game. And you've never seen so

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Speaker 1: shortly after. We'll talk some more super Bowl. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about what this Eagles victory means for this division a

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Speaker 1: him come all the way up. And then I said, man,

426
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a parking place to place to park,

427
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 1: you know. We First I was like, go to Todd.

428
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's tyre we. I don't even know this

429
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: cat day right, Okay, he got me on parking place.

430
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I don't need it now. He got

431
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: me a parking place over and went to play. I'm like, wow, yeah,

432
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot of DoD. I mean he does

433
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: everything you just uh. Another fun thing was especially when

434
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: we're building this complex here, this star are It's it

435
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: was fun because I got to be a big part

436
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: of that and help design the football side of it.

437
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: And that was really a fun, fun project. A lot

438
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: of work, but it was fun. How involved were you

439
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: in that, like the late were you involved in like

440
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: the layout and this should go here and here and that.

441
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: How how was that process I got to go in

442
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: Basically the first meetings we ever had was even mister

443
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: Jones and Stephen and Charlotte and Jerry Junior and all

444
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: of them, and how they they're envision of this place

445
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: from day one, concept everything, And then all of a

446
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: sudden we just sit down and with the architects and

447
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: really go okay, we want this here and training room

448
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: here and lockers here, and did you guys visit other

449
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: facilities and take ideas? And yes we did. And so

450
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny because you know, when Jerry built

451
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 1: a T T stadium, he went all the way all

452
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: over the country, looked at different stadium, soccer stams, everything,

453
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: and he just cherry pick different things. So we kind

454
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: of did the same thing. Went to a lot of

455
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: different facilities, colleges, the top colleges, the programs and their facilities,

456
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: and you'd see different things. You're like, oh, I like

457
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: this idea, so kind of just put it in the

458
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: back of your mind. Takes what was the coolest thing

459
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: you saw? That's Douglas, That ain't god that you managed

460
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: to get incorporated into the Star. There's a lot of

461
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: things I'll tell you this though. Um our layout is

462
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: a lot kind of like the Jets, because the Jets

463
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: have an indoor facility, not like ours, of course, but

464
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: it's indoor, and then their facilities kind of go along

465
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: the whole side of it. And some of the things

466
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: they did there, we just took it to a different level. Um,

467
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: we did it do a lot of that. Now. Everybody

468
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: hears about the University of Oregon that that is a

469
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: impressive place. And I understand how they get some of

470
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: the recruits they do, because if a college kid or

471
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: a high school kid goes there as a recruit, I

472
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: don't know how you don't walk out there without signing

473
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: just because the facilities and it's all Nike. It's yeah,

474
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: that's why they call it Nike you But it's a

475
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: It is a very impressive. They did a unbelievable job there.

476
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: It's had. I want to thank you for being real

477
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: smooth with what you just did, because he would have

478
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: killed him because he said that's Nike and they said

479
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: that's why they called it Nike. You you easy today

480
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: he would have crushed him for saying that, what do

481
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: you what do you think is that he would have

482
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: crushed him so thank you for that. I'm a mean person.

483
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: Show you. I got a question now with free agency

484
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: coming up. I know your department and you and guys

485
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: beneath you work a lot on the contracts. How much

486
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: are you involved in that evaluation process? I mean like

487
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: coaches kind of say we need this guy, and you're like,

488
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 1: how do you guys fit in with? How this all

489
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: puzzle bag? Yeah? Well it's a it's a it's a

490
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: it's a process of it. But I mean, you gotta

491
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: you got guys, you gotta you gotta fit into your cap.

492
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: You got your needs right, you always have your needs

493
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: your once and Okay, we're gonna do this, and uh,

494
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: you just got to figure out how it's gonna work.

495
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's not a pinpoint deal like, oh

496
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: we got to get this guy, Well, yeah, we'd like

497
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: to have that guy. But one thing about free agency

498
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: is sometimes you can overpay very easily and free ac

499
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: and that sometimes you you might pay your own guys

500
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: because you know them, but if you go out and

501
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: try to get somebody else and go to them as well.

502
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: And there's some things that has that philosophy changed a

503
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: little since Brandon car he seems like the last really

504
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: big free agents. I think you just got to really

505
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: pick the guys that you think is gonna help you

506
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: and how you're going to use those guys. And it's

507
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: a it's is it's a big You're making a big

508
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: commitment when you're going out on pre ac, especially spending

509
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: on top free agents, you're making a big commitment. So

510
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: when when you all up making a decision on a

511
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: player that's say, you know that's already with us, may

512
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: have a contract, may not have a contract. How many

513
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: heads get in there, missus Jones stealing you? How many

514
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: heads are in about four or five? Will McLay and yeah,

515
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: coach Garrett as well, and you just you, I think

516
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of guys that do a lot

517
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: of research and a bunch of scouting and they kind

518
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: of get their reports together. Then the people are making

519
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: decisions gets a little smaller than you. Then you see

520
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: how it's gonna work. If it's gonna work, then you

521
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: go from there, and then mister Jones always has the

522
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: final say, of course, right, wow, what do you do

523
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: with with draft coming up? What's your involvement with the draft?

524
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: What all do you do around draft? I just more

525
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I said, and listen, so

526
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't like senior Bowls, like my first look as

527
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: college guys. Then we kind of moved to m the combine.

528
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: Then that's when you get another big look at these

529
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: things like that. And then then really when you get

530
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: really into the details of the draft preparation in April,

531
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: those three weeks that we just basically live in the

532
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: war room, that's when you just get to really know

533
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: the guys. And then, like you say, sometimes you can

534
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: learn a lot by just listening, and you can learn

535
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: a lot from these guys who actually go out and

536
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: scout these guys, watch them, watch a lot of tape,

537
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: and they give a good, good report and you get

538
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: a good field for them. Yeah, when you bring guys

539
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: in for in person interviews like the weeks leading up

540
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: to the draft, like the thirty visits, Yeah, the thirty visits,

541
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 1: how much does that play into you know? Their personalities?

542
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like a normal job. If a

543
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: guy can play, he can play, and you know you'll

544
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: deal with whatever else normal job, you kind of they

545
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: have to fit with your group and your team. Does

546
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: that translate to football as well or is it, Oh,

547
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: I think so. I think you have to have a

548
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: guy that can mingle and interact with all your guys

549
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: and you you hopefully you know your guys and if

550
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: there's a question a lot of time of those thirty visits,

551
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: it's really not. You know the players and as you

552
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: watch the tape, if they can play, then play, like

553
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: you said. But if you've got a question about them anything,

554
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: or you need to really check them out someone a

555
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: physical things like that, that's when you bring them in.

556
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: You can ask questions, you can work with them. You

557
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: can also put them on the board to see if hey,

558
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: they pick up football well they know what you're doing

559
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: and how quickly can they fit pick up your scheme

560
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: and think it's a good way to do it. And

561
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: you can learn a lot from those those thirty visits.

562
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: And like you say, you don't bring in we don't

563
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: bring in guys that are top players. We bring them

564
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: in from guys can be drafted or even undrafted guys.

565
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: If you have a question about them, whatever, you like

566
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 1: some things about them, you want to know more about them,

567
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: that's when you bring them in and talk to them.

568
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: So who are we taking in the draft? Who are

569
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: we signing a free agent. That's a good question. Hell

570
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: you'll we'll reconvene a little later and maybe we'll know

571
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Okay, and I almost forgotten this time.

572
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: Bear with me. How much does and this has been

573
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: big for us the last few years, dead money and

574
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: cap money that we all read, Oh, doesn't that mean

575
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: a lot somewhat? You have to take either out of

576
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: the rookie pool if that's possible. All you have to say,

577
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: we can't go out and get this right free agent.

578
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: So it doesn't take meaning out of the rookie pool.

579
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: So the rookie pools its own little little deal. But

580
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: what it does, it does it takes it out of

581
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: your your big your big number there. What's the rookie pool. Well,

582
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: it's for all the draft picks you get. It's you

583
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: get a certain amount, certain amount, and it's it's it's

584
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: been this new rookie pool system that we have has

585
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: been really good because it's does it how it's supposed to.

586
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: You know, the young guys are gonna get paid, but

587
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: not like they used to. I mean it used to

588
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: be with crazy these guys, these quarterbacks would be the

589
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback and aim and throwing the passing the

590
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: NFL yet so it's it's better. It's a lot better,

591
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean a lot better. And then but if you do,

592
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: like Nate was asking about this dead money, if you

593
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: have people that have been here gone, you have a

594
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: lot of dead money. It takes away from some of

595
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: these things that you might not be able to do

596
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: in free agency because you don't have the cap space anymore.

597
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Are you in a little bit of a window or

598
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: is there any sense of urgency because you've got Dak

599
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: right now, a pretty team friendly deal where that's not

600
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: you're not even gonna have that luxury. I mean, is

601
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: there some is there? Are you in a window now?

602
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: You need really need to take advantage of it? Yeah?

603
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean you you you have to. But you know

604
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: Dacks deal is gonna be coming up here pretty soon

605
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: as well. Um, we got to look at the you know,

606
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: Zach Martin as well. Um is that hal stringing any uh?

607
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean I think hopefully we've done some projections and

608
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: things and we've set things up to kind of take

609
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: care of these things. And that's kind of hope we

610
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: um in our plan, that's what we've you know, planned

611
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: out that you got to take these care of things

612
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: different years, and uh, so far so good. We just

613
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta get work on Zach and hopefully get

614
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: come to agreement on that thing. Okay, Uh we we

615
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: here know how busy your schedule us all year long?

616
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: What is what is your what is your vacation indead time? Uh,

617
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: let's see, we'll take mid June to mid July. So

618
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: after the mini camp, everything kind of really calms down,

619
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: coaches go on vacation, everybody kind of takes a deep breath.

620
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: Then you kind of come right back right before we

621
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: get to and the way the contracts have been for

622
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: the rookies, you can get them done real quick and

623
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: so you get a little time there mid June to

624
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: mid July. Okay, Now my quick question is what what

625
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: what's the issue with you got your first round picks?

626
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: Do they have five years? All first round picks are

627
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: the first ten foot picks and then the second year guys.

628
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: Because it's always oh the issue where the second or

629
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: third round guys want to hang out because is it

630
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: structure of contract? It's more now it's becoming more structure

631
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: of contract and it's more you know, um, guess the

632
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: West Way to say is that it is it's the structure.

633
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the language, sometimes it's offset. It's just depends

634
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: on teams and how they do things and um and

635
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: and and basically total package of their deal. I mean,

636
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: there's a there's a little bit of movement in there,

637
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: and it's kind of changing every every year. It seems like,

638
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, you get more and more guaranteed, and its

639
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: starting to flow into the second round now and third

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Speaker 1: rounds as well. So it's just so all first rounds,

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Speaker 1: y'all have the option of the fifth year, yes, and

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Speaker 1: then the second round is usually go four years impossible

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Speaker 1: fifth just four year deals, all right? I need to

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Speaker 1: know that because I thought it was maybe the first

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Speaker 1: fifteen Yeah, I thought it was just the first fifteen

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Speaker 1: picks had that five year deal, you know. And uh,

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Speaker 1: but it's the whole first round and then the fourth

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Speaker 1: in the second round is four years, right. Okay. So

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Speaker 1: when you drafting and you see a guy you like,

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Speaker 1: do you ever say, okay, can we pull him back

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Speaker 1: into the into the uh first round? Uh? You just

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Speaker 1: let it fall high fall, I would say, I would

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Speaker 1: tend to say we like to usually let it fallward

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Speaker 1: it falls because then sometimes you can if you move

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Speaker 1: a guy up and you think he's really a second rounder,

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Speaker 1: and then you've also put him in the first round,

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Speaker 1: your money getting Yeah, I mean you're starting to okay

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Speaker 1: when you have a guy trust your board rather you

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Speaker 1: know what, now, now you open up the door. Do

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Speaker 1: you trust your board? Do we really trust our board

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Speaker 1: as the NFL team? I think I think it's uh here,

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Speaker 1: here we go because I gotta go. I mean I

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Speaker 1: there's a certain things that sometimes it come into play

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he gets taken and

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Speaker 1: you're up. So you better have yeah, playing B and C.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it. Do you have any cool war room

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Speaker 1: stories over the years that you can share any anything

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Speaker 1: that jumps out. I mean, we've had some interesting conversations.

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Speaker 1: Probably won't get into those, but uh, you know we've

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, what would you call the league?

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Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, I need to do that in

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Speaker 1: time's getting really tight. And uh, but there's there's always

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Speaker 1: some fun things every draft. There's probably some five or

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Speaker 1: So one more question. We know you got to go.

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Speaker 1: So when you have free agents, say like a you know,

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Speaker 1: and you don't have to we don't have to name

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Speaker 1: a specific player. But how does that process start? Like

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Speaker 1: how does all that work? It? Uh, it's different. I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of times though, either Stephen or me

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Speaker 1: or even at him. We go in there and if

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Speaker 1: other players we can't really talk to yet and if

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Speaker 1: it's our own guys, we can kind of start laying

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Speaker 1: do you just agent Hey, yeah, more of the agents? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you know, like I mean, Andy Hitchings would

706
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: be a great one. That's a great example. I mean,

707
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: love him to death. He's been great for us, and

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00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: would love to keep him if we can. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna look at it. I don't know if we're

710
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to, but we'd love to keep him.

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Speaker 1: He's been a great player for us. Very cool, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: you got any parting questions, sir? Let him appreciate you

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00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: stopping by today. Yeah, man, this was awesome. Appreciate it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have to get you to come buy more often.

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Speaker 1: So thanks Todd for the time. You know you're busy,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go get stuff done, so the doors open

717
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: anytime you want to stop by. We're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: He didn't tell yaga jump on his Harley Man and

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Speaker 1: it's all fun. Yeah, it's fun, but I ain't did well.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Todd, appreciate it. We'll go take a quick break

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Speaker 1: That was that was fun, Kurt, Yeah, thanks for doing more.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, man, mister Stephen Jones, ever Swalls

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Speaker 1: do we have ever? Micaeldown excuse me? H? I mean

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Speaker 1: Chris Hall? Chris Hall? Me? Wow? Who got us? I

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Speaker 1: think it wasn't me? Was it? You? Kurt uched him once?

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Speaker 1: But I think Shannon sealed the deal. Chris. Come on,

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Speaker 1: come on, Douglas, come on man, I thought it was Nate.

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Speaker 1: Let's give the credit to these guys that really did

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Speaker 1: the work. Okay, now we are Hey, brother, y'all done

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Speaker 1: great jobs of bringing in great people to say you

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Speaker 1: gonna get it. We're gonna We're gonna touch one thing

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Speaker 1: that I think that you do a great job. And

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Speaker 1: all you guys are is nobody's off limits to us.

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Speaker 1: That's right, you know. And I got the big man

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Speaker 1: in here. We've asked him to go. We've asked tough questions,

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Speaker 1: We've asked fun questions. We keep it fun with the

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Speaker 1: players because during the season we don't need them bog

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Speaker 1: down with crazy stuff. Yeah, but doing off season, we've

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Speaker 1: talked draft, we've talked to hard decisions. And for those

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Speaker 1: of you listening, Todd is the most down to earth person.

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Speaker 1: But he's a big deal. Like he's he is Steven's

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Speaker 1: he did like we said on the show, he does contracts.

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Speaker 1: But you know he does the playlist that practice for

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Speaker 1: That's how you know. Like Nate was saying he needed

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Speaker 1: a parking place out here. Todd, Todd, your guy Todd

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Speaker 1: You know, this is real. It's hard, you know, And

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Speaker 1: He's way, way, way more than a ninety five guy.

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Speaker 1: How do you get in sports? You don't have to

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Speaker 1: And look what happened? What's the young lady name that

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep going out thing here you right now

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00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: to do the little things first, you know, and lawyers,

849
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: it plays a part with these people. Oh yeah, and

850
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: don't just be willing to do it. Go seek it out. Yea?

851
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: What can I do? Like? What can don't just wait

852
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: on it to come to you? Like if you get

853
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: a shot? You know, volunteer for and this is really

854
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: with any team, you know, volunteer for everything weekend, Say hey,

855
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: what can I do over the weekend to do this?

856
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Like like I said, Todd after the games, he's in

857
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: there picking up sweaty jocks off the ground, putting them

858
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: in the clothes hamper, you know, just doing whatever he

859
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: can do to play a part and multitask and all that. Man,

860
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: if he see this thing about it is he see

861
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: the guys working and he's just joined in. That's a

862
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: different type person. Yeah. Together, when you see somebody doing something,

863
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: you just joined in, you know, like I see a deal.

864
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: I never said, Man, we ain't doing it part of it.

865
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, I'm mastered these guys doing this. It's

866
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: just joined in. Yeah, you know, And uh, that's what

867
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: I've always believed too. You just joined in. You know,

868
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: if how are you going to go to overse the equipment?

869
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: Guys they hustling trying to get this place cleaned up

870
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: so they can either get back over here or they

871
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: can get on the plane and come on, bro join

872
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: in and make this process easier. So when you ask

873
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: them for the extra set of jerseys or shoes, they're

874
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: throw them in. There was no problem, yep, this citizen.

875
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: This dudes let us work four hours, just the way

876
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: he stood around four hours. Just wait, hey, man, I

877
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: get some shoes. Come on. I'm glad you brought you

878
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: brought that up about this organization because I actually had

879
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: this conversation with Chris Beam this morning and here I

880
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: can't remember how we got started talking. We talked about

881
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: people ask us all the time, what's it? What's Oh?

882
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: We were talking about Hall of Fame and like how

883
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: you know when Jerry got it, you know, the Jones

884
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: got inducted in everything, and how that process was, and

885
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, people got to see him actually in a

886
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: different light, because if you look at him from afar,

887
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: you get one perception. But then once you you you're

888
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: around him and you get to o him, he's it's

889
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: usually completely different. And people always ask us, you know,

890
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: what's it like to work for for Jerry Jones. It's awesome,

891
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: Like it's He's the family is a le legit good

892
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: family and they care about people, and it's you know,

893
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: I always say it's it's a billion dollar organization, but

894
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: it's run like a mom and pop grocery store in Arkansas.

895
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: Your one phone call away from the family, your one visit,

896
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: you know. They I was telling Chris, it's like if

897
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: we needed to, we could call Maryland and say, hey,

898
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: I really need to talk to Jerry and you could

899
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: probably get on his calendar. I would not do that, ever,

900
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: would never do that, but I mean you could. You

901
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: could get on his calendar. So I mean, it's it's

902
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: a cool it's a cool deal. And just you know, Nate,

903
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: you've lived it, you played here, and then you're still

904
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: around and even real people of power, everybody is not accessible,

905
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, most people of power, most people that run

906
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: a billion dollar corporation, you know, they won't even look

907
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: at you. Yeah, there's a lot of layers to get Yeah,

908
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: And I tell people, I say, don't don't you know

909
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things. You don't agree with miss Jones doing?

910
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: How you hunting? His business? But just say hello, how

911
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: you doing? I ain't never seen him not speak, right,

912
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: That's the basic way to get hey, how you doing? Hello?

913
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: That's that's the basic way. Right. I've seen him walk

914
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: through here. A tour is going through the building, and

915
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: he walks by with Roosevelt going from and running a

916
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: hundred miles and they'll stop and say hi to everybody.

917
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: And then if somebody asked for a picture and autograph,

918
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: you know, they're not supposed to. I know I'm not

919
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: better than me because I mean, I gotta go. It's

920
00:47:54,440 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: just amazing, you know. And everybody sees people differently, you know,

921
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: And you don't want nothing to happen to mister Jones.

922
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: I tell you, because the dynamics of this will change.

923
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: Because I loved mister Stephen Jones loved the daughter and everything,

924
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: but the man that makes it click and everybody follows

925
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: his his his model model of how do you do

926
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: think that this mister Jones and his Jones and his

927
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: understanding it still blows me away. His understanding of technology

928
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: and you know, what's the new thing and what's the

929
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: popular thing, and how he can even though he holds

930
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: onto his flip phone. You know what I think said that.

931
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: I think he actually got upgraded to I think he

932
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: finally started an iPhone. I think I saw that. But yeah,

933
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: just just the way he's still so forward and ahead

934
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: of still ahead of his time. You know, for sure,

935
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: I hear stories all the time about he's in meetings

936
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: and he'll just stop and be like, well what if

937
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: we did this? And everybody's like, wow, I never even

938
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: thought of that. And it's it's a cool deal man,

939
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a cool place to work. The sad

940
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: thing about it about all of this right here, is

941
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: you when is enough enough? With him? Is never ever?

942
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: And it ain't talking about the money. I'm just talking

943
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: about making it bigger and better. Right you know, it

944
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: comes upoint where you think how big and better can

945
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: it get? You know, and he's always looking for a

946
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: way to make it a little bit easier, a little

947
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: bit bigger, a little bit better. But he also keeps

948
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: it simple, you know, he all you know, he keeps

949
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: it very simple on how you do things. That's why

950
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: I'll saying he finally got rid of this flip phone

951
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: because flip phone, even though it's modern, it was simple

952
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: old man hitting it over and here you go. And

953
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: the thing about that native is everybody's like, well, he

954
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: just wants more money. And he look, he he's got

955
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: so many other businesses the outside of about If he

956
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: wants to make money, that's money. He does all this stuff,

957
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: he legit does it for the fans and for the experience.

958
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: That's why they built the Star. It's not to make

959
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: more money, you know, It's to create a destination that's

960
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: unlike any other where. Fans when they come in town,

961
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: they can go and they can they can see and

962
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: touch and be around the cowboys. That's why we do

963
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: tours of this place is because he wants to share

964
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys brand and experiences. See. One thing I've

965
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: always understood about him is if you give people what

966
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: they want, the money is not an issue. If you

967
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: give people better than what they want. They literally forget

968
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: about the money. And that's what that's what he tries

969
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: to do, give you better than what you When when

970
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: we talk about, hey, you need to see the Star,

971
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: the people I've brought over here, once they left, they'd

972
00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: be like wow, really for real? You know? Yeah? And

973
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: most people pay for this here free. All right. You

974
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: meant like a lot of things mister Jones doing and

975
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: how he do things, but it ain't a lot of

976
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: it ain't selfish because, like you said, I was talking

977
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: to one of his guys, one of his computer guys

978
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: that runs all the computers for him, you know, through

979
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: all of his Oh like god, hey, man must be

980
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: something else. And I'm thinking about the Star in ATNT

981
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: and thinking about the Fords and then man, but to

982
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: be able to run the Star and the run the

983
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium, and he like, yeah, and the

984
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: sixty other businesses he had, yeah, the old gas Yeah.

985
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: And I'm like, he said, I'm mobile all of that too,

986
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: and I'm and and you know what, I started to dig,

987
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: but I said, you know what, I'm not finish. Because

988
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: we was at the Hall of Fame down that in

989
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: the Look Party in the area, mister Jones that like,

990
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: I'll be here the whole Hall of Fame trying to

991
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: figure out these different businesses. Forget it. I'll just stick aware. So, Kurt,

992
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: you you came from the Rangers, the Stars. How long

993
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: have you been here? Now I've been This will be

994
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: my tenthire hit here. What's the biggest difference or is

995
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: there a difference between like those other organizations in this

996
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: organization when it comes to like an employee standpoint, Uh yeah,

997
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's one. It's just bigger. It's a definitely

998
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: bigger stage for sure. But also I was surprised when

999
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: I came here just how hands on they are and

1000
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: how involved not only mister Jones Senior, but Stephen, Charlotte,

1001
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: Jerry Junior as well. I mean, they're all a part

1002
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: of this, and it is it's a family business for sure.

1003
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's a we need to get You need

1004
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: to get Charlotte on because she's got a great story

1005
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: how she got involved in the business and the cheerleader

1006
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: part and all that part. Grown. Yeah, yeah, we need

1007
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: to get ahead of a cheerleader in here too, Kelly, Yeah,

1008
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: we need to get her in here on her own.

1009
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: That with a cheer. We don't need a cheerleader, you know,

1010
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: because I want you guys to focus. You know. So

1011
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: you're saying Kelly's not attractive? Is that what your She

1012
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: looks good? But because you worked with him in Uh,

1013
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: I don't want no problems, bro, I'm gonna bring you

1014
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: on the cheer I'm gonna bring you guys. Yeah, we're

1015
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: doing We moved it up to an hour and we're

1016
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays, I think two to three. So yeah, we

1017
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: have two cheerleaders on. In fact, I think I think

1018
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: Kelly's gonna be on this Wednesday. I believe, or we're

1019
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: trying to get her on this Wednesday. I'm not sure.

1020
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's fun, a lot of fun, A lot

1021
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: more fun than hanging out with you. God. Man, they

1022
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: ain't have better guests than us, so I ain't worry

1023
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: about it. No, oh they have not who you know what?

1024
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: And all of our guests where would your boss fit?

1025
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton and all of our guess bottom He doesn't

1026
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: listen to this show Dead Last. He doesn't. I've tried

1027
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: to get him on the show before. He doesn't want

1028
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: to come on the show. He came on, Yeah, not willingly. Yeah,

1029
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: and then he laughed. I think he was only three

1030
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: minutes and he's like, I gotta go. He did quit? Man,

1031
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: who got time from? Who? Who are we getting next? Who?

1032
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: How are we going to top this run of guests

1033
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: that we've had? Telling you, man, it ain't about topping it.

1034
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: It's about nobody's offering. We need to get the young

1035
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: lady over here and Rob Kelly. Yeah, we need to

1036
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: get Kelly and Rocks because well, I think you guys

1037
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: has done a great job at his giving people a

1038
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: plethora of different personalities that we give you from. And

1039
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying nobody has hired Lord than nobody, but

1040
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 1: we're giving you every level of what the cowboys had offered.

1041
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: That's what you guys have brought. So, oh yeah, there's

1042
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: a different level player. There's a lot of different levels.

1043
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: So where's Kurt fitting it below? I'm luck on the show. No, Kurt,

1044
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: we're lucky that you're on this show. Oh stop it? Okay,

1045
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: well fellas, it's been fun. Kurt. Hey, Kurt, why why'd

1046
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: you cut that off? Let me get that anymore? Play

1047
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: that for Kurt Man. Come throw the cool guys who

1048
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: you know you're trying to mellowed. Somebody out there likes

1049
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: me thinks, oh, we need to open up the phones next.

1050
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: That's true. We haven't talked to the fans. We tried

1051
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: last week and then we got we got a couple

1052
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: of Philly fans. We need to have them call. Oh yeah,

1053
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: we'll do that next. We'll do that next Monday of Cowboys.

1054
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: Y'all in trouble. The phones probably aren't working up there

1055
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Speaker 1: because they probably burned all the cell towers down last night.

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Speaker 1: So I think we need to figure something out. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles didn't want a Super Bowl in the entire

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Speaker 1: history of the NFL until this show played. Fly Eagles,

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Speaker 1: Fly Stop it stop open a show stop. It got

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Speaker 1: size that somehow we've got to do something before next

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Speaker 1: season to get rid of that. Shoot you, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna blame this on Drew Pearson for poking the

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Speaker 1: Eagles fans with the stairs during the draft. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming it. Probably a little more high profile, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit. So you know what, I actually got

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Speaker 1: the clip from one oh five three of Emmett at

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Um, did y'all hear that? He he

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Speaker 1: we'll play that next week. I'll let this Eagles talk

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Speaker 1: simmer down a little bit. But he They had him

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Speaker 1: on one oh five three, our flagship station, at Media

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Speaker 1: Days or whatever when the all the players media row

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Speaker 1: make the make the rounds and some Eagles fans were

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Speaker 1: standing behind them and they were saying Dallas sucks and

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Speaker 1: all this, and Emmett wasn't having it, and he stood

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Speaker 1: up and he let them know what's up. It's a

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Speaker 1: It is awesome and I'm so mad that they won

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Speaker 1: because we were gonna do something with it on social

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Speaker 1: media this week and he's still gonna do something with him.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it on the show. Get rid of it. Well, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: thanks for showing up. Nate, thanks for bringing it, Douglas,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Ty Williams, thanks for pushing the buttons. Special

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Speaker 1: shout out to Todd Williams. That was awesome. Kent, thanks

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Speaker 1: for doing what you do and we will be back

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Speaker 1: next Monday at eleven o'clock on Hanging with the Boys.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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