WEBVTT - Devin White Comes Up Big In Germany, Looking Past the Bye | Bucs Insider

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in two Bucks Insider Live Casey Phillips. Here was

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<v Speaker 1>senior writer and editor Scott Smith, and I think hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we are finally not jetlagged enough that we can make

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<v Speaker 1>some sense on the show. We're feeling good finally. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of happy the show wasn't any sooner. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what we would have talked about, who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have an exciting win from Germany to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know you probably have done some questions as

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks head into their bye week about the team

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<v Speaker 1>and about the season. So if you want to send

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<v Speaker 1>us those, put them underneath the live video on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>and the comments section. We'll get to some of those

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit. So for now, just go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me a little bit about the big picture

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<v Speaker 1>takeaways from the game and anything that really stood out

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<v Speaker 1>to you in terms of what this game meant to

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<v Speaker 1>this team and some of the individuals on it. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Donovan Smith in the locker room up to

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<v Speaker 1>the game, I said, it was this a statement game

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys because they've taken some heat, right and

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<v Speaker 1>they've had adjust to a lot of lineup changes. And

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<v Speaker 1>he agreed, and really they think of the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time that Tom Brady had to throw in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not sacked, He was only hit one time.

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<v Speaker 1>He uh he had. He had an average of two

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<v Speaker 1>point seven eight seconds from the snap to the throw,

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<v Speaker 1>which is by far his highest average of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>In this season, he's been getting involved really really quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and throwing a lot of short passes. But think about

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<v Speaker 1>those passes down field. Mike Evanscott went down the sideline

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<v Speaker 1>kay dot and kind of down the scene. Chris Goblin

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<v Speaker 1>had one Scotty Miller, remember the one where he jumped

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<v Speaker 1>at the near the goal line. He had time to

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<v Speaker 1>look down field and be comfortable and wait and let

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<v Speaker 1>those plays develop. And that's the little thing. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen a whole lot of out of this offense this year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot more like what we did in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand twenty. See here you go with the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>statement game. Hundred sixty one rushing yards, zero sacks all that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>the Buccaneers had their best third down game. There were

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<v Speaker 1>ten of fifteen, but really it was ten of thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>because there were two kneel downs on the third down

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bucks were over for two in the first

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<v Speaker 1>two drives needing ten in fourteen yards. So from then on,

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<v Speaker 1>the eleven times they tried to convert the third down,

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<v Speaker 1>they succeeded ten times, which is pretty and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you have these extended drives. And part of that was

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<v Speaker 1>because the good work in the running game was producing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of third and one, two, three, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were there were seven and seven on those, so that

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<v Speaker 1>all worked together to create a type of offensive output

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<v Speaker 1>that we haven't seen a whole lot of this year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like every storyline that had been a question

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<v Speaker 1>mark for the team got answered in this game, right

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<v Speaker 1>the third and one and third downs on both offense

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<v Speaker 1>and defense, and the red zone and extending the drives

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<v Speaker 1>and not making the defense beyond the field too long,

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<v Speaker 1>faster starts, I mean, you name it, every potential issue

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<v Speaker 1>except one except one. They still kind of lagged a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on defense at the end after a dominant performer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very much like the a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a let up in the second half. Well, not even

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<v Speaker 1>the second half, it was like the fourth quarter. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in the second half, because if it

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't been for that force fumble by Devin White, then

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<v Speaker 1>um it could have been a lot of harrier, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about that of how important that was

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<v Speaker 1>of after five games of no turnovers and even you

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<v Speaker 1>can say even you know, five and a half games,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you want to depend on how specific you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get so many games without a turnover, and

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<v Speaker 1>that play by him, it's a reminder of how big

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<v Speaker 1>turnovers are, of what they can do. Because I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you that because that came not long after the

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks interception on the trick play, and it was Lloyd

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<v Speaker 1>that we went from the Bucks having all the momentum

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<v Speaker 1>to suddenly you could feel that shift happening and it

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<v Speaker 1>felt a little dangerous. And then Devon's play, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it was it saved the momentum and potentially

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<v Speaker 1>saved the game, especially when you look at the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they really ended up only winning by five. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it was this blowout situation. Well, they immediately

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<v Speaker 1>not only did they get that, but they immediately then

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<v Speaker 1>drove eighty seven yards for a touchdown. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a complete swing of like potentially fourteen points. And so

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<v Speaker 1>at that point it was twenty one three with about

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<v Speaker 1>eleven minutes to play, and while the defense did have

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<v Speaker 1>some lapses. The rest of them way, they're just ran

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<v Speaker 1>out of time, right, Yeah, in twenty one three, with

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<v Speaker 1>eleven mints to play, you're almost always gonna win that game.

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<v Speaker 1>So it might have seemed a little scary at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>but the odds were never very strong of Seahawks coming

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back. Yeah, And so tell me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about not just that play, but Devon White's

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<v Speaker 1>game overall. I mean, now we've seen that he's named

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC Defensive Player of the Week, which very deserving,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, I know people have probably at

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<v Speaker 1>this point heard about the emotional side of it for

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<v Speaker 1>him of losing his dad a few days before the game,

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<v Speaker 1>so we know what it what it meant to him

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<v Speaker 1>personally for this game. You see him sort of acknowledging

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<v Speaker 1>his dad after that play, but so separate from just

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<v Speaker 1>the emotions and the personal side of it for him

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what that game meant to the team

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<v Speaker 1>and what we saw about what this means about Devon's

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<v Speaker 1>level of play? What did I say? Yeah, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably recall, I'm sure that he was the NFC Defensive

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<v Speaker 1>Player of the Month for September, so he obviously was

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<v Speaker 1>playing really, really well, and the Bucks offense, if you

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<v Speaker 1>probably also recall through the first three games, was killing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they were averaging nine points allowed per game,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was the best known league. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, it didn't kind of hold up as much,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Devon himself took a little bit of heat

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of weeks from outside sources, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>you see this performance and it's very much more like

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<v Speaker 1>Devon White at his best, and that means a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to this defense, and especially in terms of getting after

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks. He had the two sacks because that play

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<v Speaker 1>counted as a sack, the one we just saw with

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<v Speaker 1>the force phone. He had another one, and uh, now

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<v Speaker 1>he's got I can't remember how many has this year,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe four point five or something, but over the last

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<v Speaker 1>well since he came in the league, over four years

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<v Speaker 1>of off ball linebackers, not edge rushers like Shack Barrett,

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<v Speaker 1>but off ball linebackers, he's the one with the most

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<v Speaker 1>sacks of anybody in that span. And that's a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of what the Buccaneers can do because the Bucketeers

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<v Speaker 1>are I think maybe second in the league in sacks

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<v Speaker 1>as a team, but we don't. I mean, Vita Vea

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<v Speaker 1>leads us with six point five, we don't have Shack

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<v Speaker 1>Barrett with ten sacks, right right, is very much a

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<v Speaker 1>team effort, you know, Antoine Winfield's got three uh and

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<v Speaker 1>and Devin White is a big part of that effort.

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<v Speaker 1>He had the two sacks, He had another play where

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<v Speaker 1>he just shot up the middle and disrupted the play

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he got credit for a quarterback hit.

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<v Speaker 1>So that element to the game. It was maybe missing

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, but having that bag is big.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course because he did so well, we

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to mention or I forgot to mention he was

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<v Speaker 1>named the NFC Defense Player of the Week. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's amazing and uh and it's so well deserved

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<v Speaker 1>and just so happy for him. And you know earlier

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't mention the longer drives, which of course we

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<v Speaker 1>know also helps the defense, helps those guys be fresh

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<v Speaker 1>to make plays like that. For sure. Um, it's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing to know that just recently this team had struggled

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in terms of putting together longer drives

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<v Speaker 1>and finishing them. But put into perspective a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>for U is how impressive. It was how long these

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<v Speaker 1>drives were, how many of them they were doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it feel impressive just because of what they've done

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<v Speaker 1>recently or was it actually a pretty big deal. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not common that the Bucks did do what they did

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<v Speaker 1>in that game. They came into this game with three

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<v Speaker 1>drives touched on drives of eighty or more yards in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire first nine games, and they had three in

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<v Speaker 1>that game. They had an eight eight and eighty seven

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<v Speaker 1>and an eighty three I think six, So three of

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<v Speaker 1>the top five longest drives of the entire season touched

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<v Speaker 1>on drives were in this game. And as you can

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<v Speaker 1>see there on this chart, doing that three times one

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<v Speaker 1>game is not common, at least it's not common for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks. I didn't look it up for every team,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have charts of of drives going back to

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and I could only find five games is

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<v Speaker 1>including this one in that span where the Buccaneers had

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<v Speaker 1>three a plus touched on drives in the same game,

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<v Speaker 1>and they never had four, so they I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the information from earlier, but from two thousands on in

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<v Speaker 1>the last twenty three seasons, that's as good as it's

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<v Speaker 1>been in terms of sustaining drives. So it's it's not common,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is encouraging going forward. But we may not

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<v Speaker 1>have touchdongs drives next week or the week after, but

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<v Speaker 1>showing the ability to consistently keep moving the chains is

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<v Speaker 1>what was encouraging. Yeah, I feel like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, Coach Bowls said one of his availabilities about

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<v Speaker 1>how some of these plays and drives and moments are

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<v Speaker 1>contagious where you just kind of need to get started,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to get rolling a bit. And it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe that game winning drive for the Rams was

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<v Speaker 1>that catalyst. It was that thing to remind the team

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<v Speaker 1>who they are, get that identity back. And then, of

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<v Speaker 1>course health is just such a huge factor in this

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<v Speaker 1>and it's why the Bucks were the healthiest team in

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<v Speaker 1>the league the year they won the Super Bowl. That

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<v Speaker 1>is not a coincidence. It wasn't the case last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was not the exactly And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this last game against Seattle was the closest we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>to having a fully healthy team, because, yeah, you had

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<v Speaker 1>most of these guys week one, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>safe to say, Chris Godwin, you know you lost in

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<v Speaker 1>part with through the game and he just wasn't back

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<v Speaker 1>as much in terms of his legs under him and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that. To feel like, you have Antoine Winfield

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<v Speaker 1>junior back, you have Achem Hicks back, Julio Jones looked

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<v Speaker 1>like Julio Jones, Chris Godwin looked more like Chris Godwin,

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<v Speaker 1>both of those guys getting their first touchdowns. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we finally saw the Bucks team that they had envisioned,

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<v Speaker 1>and you forget how much either Brady having to learn

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<v Speaker 1>all these new different targets not having that consistency every day. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like this is hopefully a sign of

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<v Speaker 1>what this team can be moving forward when they're healthy. So,

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<v Speaker 1>now that it's the bye week for you, what are

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest things that you're going to be looking at

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<v Speaker 1>for this back part of the season. We're past the

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<v Speaker 1>midway point, but you know by week yeah, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a half and half things. So what are the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>takeaways you feel like you have from that beginning part

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<v Speaker 1>that will be something you're looking for these back seven Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you kind of brought it up earlier. The

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<v Speaker 1>the things that have been ailing the Buccaneers, most of

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<v Speaker 1>them Third and one third and short third downs, overall

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<v Speaker 1>red zone. Uh, just basically consistently maintaining that things were

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<v Speaker 1>doing well, having time to make plays down feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more, getting Chris Godwin and Julio Jones more involved,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. Um, that was all in that

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<v Speaker 1>evidence is you just very well pointed out in this

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<v Speaker 1>game in Germany can and continue is at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of a trend, and I would like to think so. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But you also mentioned how coaches talk about momentum, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and these things building on each other, or turnovers coming

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<v Speaker 1>in budges and so on. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually true, but I understand why they feel that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that sort of speaks it into existence because

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<v Speaker 1>they've been through this. I mean, think about the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl year, right, things weren't going great headed into the

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<v Speaker 1>bye seven and five better than five and five, but

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't going great. I lost three of the last

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<v Speaker 1>four and then came out of that and just started

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<v Speaker 1>rolling right, and then everything they were doing well. They

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<v Speaker 1>were doing well every single week, and so maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the fact that they feel like that can happen

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<v Speaker 1>will help it happen. Yeah, And I think that, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting how every year when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the bye week, we always end up talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>thankful we are the bye week is here to get

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<v Speaker 1>some guys healthy. I don't remember a time where the

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<v Speaker 1>week before the bye week we were saying, Wow, look

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<v Speaker 1>at all these guys we have back healthy, and how

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<v Speaker 1>what a luxury that is to not be in more

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<v Speaker 1>of a desperate place and have a late by like

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<v Speaker 1>this and still feel like you're actually trending upward health

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<v Speaker 1>wise even before you hit the by. Yeah, and this

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's some help get Logan Ryan closer to returning

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<v Speaker 1>so they have more options on defense. Again, Uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>helps that Leonard four Net will have time to rest

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<v Speaker 1>that hip injury a little bit longer, because hip pointers

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<v Speaker 1>usually take between one and three weeks to recover from,

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<v Speaker 1>depending up how serious, and so it can still help.

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<v Speaker 1>And and then we don't forget. I don't think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying you forgot this or anything, but a player

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<v Speaker 1>may not be listed on the injury report. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>have gone through a lot, and so every everyone's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hurt versus injured. Everybody, Yeah, everybody needs that week

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<v Speaker 1>off their stiff on Monday. So having the whole week

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<v Speaker 1>off going into next week, they should feel better, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better. Yeah, which is great. Um, and let's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of close with this. I know something we haven't talked

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<v Speaker 1>about is Shot White and his incredible game that he

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<v Speaker 1>had over a hundred yards. He brought up Leonard four

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<v Speaker 1>Nett and that you know, we shot White in the

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<v Speaker 1>wake of him for Net being out and even before

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<v Speaker 1>he was out was really stepping up. And we've even

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<v Speaker 1>seen Keyshawn Von get a few carries, you know in

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<v Speaker 1>these last couple of games. I think he had a

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<v Speaker 1>ten yard or in this one. So, um, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're intrigued to see in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>just how this running back room is used? And is

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<v Speaker 1>this we know that they've wanted to establish the run

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<v Speaker 1>game like this all season and what it is that

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<v Speaker 1>has finally happened between them and the old line that

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<v Speaker 1>do we see this moving forward? How much is each

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<v Speaker 1>guy maybe being used? What is the Buccaneers run game

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<v Speaker 1>look like ideally going forward? Well, first, Keyshawn Von, you

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<v Speaker 1>were right he did. He had an eleven yeard game

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<v Speaker 1>was actually on a reception. It was a really good

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<v Speaker 1>play to spend away from the tackler. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>a key first down when they were trying to run

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<v Speaker 1>out the clocks over so that was good overall. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>we shot and White was great and he has shown

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<v Speaker 1>flashes with that. And then when he got a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to get twenty two carries, you saw that somewhere along

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<v Speaker 1>the way he's going to break for you. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times. He had a yon yarder in an eighteen yarder,

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<v Speaker 1>which are the bucks two longest runs of the entire season.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course we can't not mention the incredible stiff

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<v Speaker 1>arm that sent Quandre Digs into another zimpuns amazing and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was funny hearing them talk about it because they

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<v Speaker 1>asked him how that happened. Is that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I started stutter stepping to set him up

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<v Speaker 1>for something, but I didn't know what that was gonna be,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it just happened. So anyway, that's for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole overall game. I'm gonna assume that Leonard Fournette is

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<v Speaker 1>back for the Cleveland game, or if not, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>miss much time. So we're contemplating what the backfield will

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<v Speaker 1>look like with both Leonard and healthy. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a flip. So Leonard's played about the

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<v Speaker 1>snaps so far ras played about thirty. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see that flip and and Rashad become the

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<v Speaker 1>lead guy. But I do think that you will probably

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<v Speaker 1>find closing that gap something more like that, because you

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<v Speaker 1>get to the point where you can't ignore this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>producing big players when you can get him on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, Leonard Fournett has a very good

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<v Speaker 1>track where God and the coaches trust him, Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>trust him, and we have seen that when Lenny gets hot,

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<v Speaker 1>he can really get on a roll like playoffs. So

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to take away that from your offense

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh and you know, lose the possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>him getting on heater, right, But you also probably want

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<v Speaker 1>to see a little bit more of a shod white.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just expect to see that gap clothes a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Probably not if both those guys are healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not a whole lot of options opportunities for Keyshawn Bibi.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, that's going to do it for us

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<v Speaker 1>on this edition of Bucks Insider Live. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us. We'll see you next time.