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Speaker 1: Hi Catherine, Hi Chelsea, how are you well?

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Speaker 2: It's Thursday, so you know what, Anne just chirping away.

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Speaker 2: My foot is healing from my foot surgery. My laser

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Speaker 2: is healing from my laser. Everything's healing. I'm healing. I'm

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Speaker 2: in my hyperbary chamber.

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Speaker 3: I had my Mel Robbins podcast come out this week,

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Speaker 3: which was awesome. I was a guest on her podcast,

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Speaker 3: which was great. So I got so many beautiful dms

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Speaker 3: in my messages, which I always love, and about our

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Speaker 3: podcast as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm gearing up.

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Speaker 3: I have two shows in Westhampton September twenty first. It's

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Speaker 3: now sold out, so I have tickets for September twenty second,

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Speaker 3: So if you're in that area, come see me before

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Speaker 3: I go on my next big tour. What else is happening.

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Speaker 3: I had one of my Pupsi's visiting, Poopsie. Whoopsie was

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Speaker 3: visiting for two weeks. That basically drove me off a cliff.

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Speaker 3: Lots of lots of issues, lots of driving, lots of

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Speaker 3: chauffeur ring, lots of being a stepfather.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, So that was that. Well, you're looking fresh faced.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're relaxed because you've been like kind

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Speaker 1: of offer a little bit, so that's really nice.

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Speaker 4: I have.

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Speaker 3: I've been in LA for four straight weeks, which is

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Speaker 3: you know, not something that is yes, And my new

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Speaker 3: move and date to my house, everybody pay attention is

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Speaker 3: August twenty second.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if this happens. Let's see.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm putting money on it this time. That

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Speaker 1: might be a foolish decision, but I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you. I appreciate that. And we have

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Speaker 2: some exciting guests coming up in the next few weeks,

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Speaker 2: so I've been reading lots of books to prepare. Yes.

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Speaker 3: Our guest today, though, is an Olympic medalist in figure skating.

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Speaker 3: Figure skating is one of my favorite pastimes, as we

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Speaker 3: all know, because of my coordination.

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Speaker 2: So our guest Today's Olympic medal is in figure skating.

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Speaker 3: He's an author, actor in TV personality and host of

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Speaker 3: the podcast Intrusive Thoughts with Adam Rapon.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome Adam Rapon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, shall we close the door and begin great, I'd

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Speaker 3: like to I'm chewing on food.

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Speaker 2: We haven't done that yet, not today.

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Speaker 3: We have a very special guest here today, and I

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Speaker 3: who's someone I'm meeting for the very first time. I

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Speaker 3: just want to go over a list a little bit

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Speaker 3: some of your accomplishments. Okay, before I introduce you, Ada's

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Speaker 3: Rippon Okay, twenty eighteen Olympic bronze medalist in figure skating.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is a team event.

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Speaker 3: He was the first openly gay man to make a

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Speaker 3: US Winter Olympics team and to win a medal, and

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Speaker 3: he won Dancing with the Stars Season twenty six in

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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. You're one of Time magazine's most one hundred

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Speaker 3: most influential people of twenty eighteen, and your profile was

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Speaker 3: written by Cher. That's fucking cool. He is a vocal

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Speaker 3: advocate for LGBTQ plus rights, including opposing Mike Pence leading

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Speaker 3: the twenty eighteen Winter Olympics delegation That's another highlight campaign

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Speaker 3: for Elizabeth Warren in twenty twenty two, and has been

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Speaker 3: critical of the International Olympics Committee selection of host cities

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Speaker 3: that have human rights violations. Okay, first question, which do

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Speaker 3: you think is gay the Winter or Summer Olympics.

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Speaker 2: I think this summer.

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Speaker 5: Wish they were the gayer one, but I definitely think

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Speaker 5: it's the Winter one.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right, I think the winter is gays. Dude,

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Speaker 3: Now tell me why do you say that.

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Speaker 5: I think like inherently you're thinking like summer games naked gay,

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Speaker 5: But when you really think about it, winter you always

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Speaker 5: all of the winter sports are like most of them

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Speaker 2: Also there's ice.

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Speaker 3: There's also there's a figure skating and ice dancing basically

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, I don't want to I don't want to denude.

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Speaker 2: Figure skating or diminish figure skating, no d thing.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure the whole figure skating community now is

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: I also want to say that Adam was so nice

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Speaker 3: Brought it not only donuts from Sidecar Donuts, he brought

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Speaker 2: They're amazing. I don't have a problem with gluten. I

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Speaker 2: free donuts. It's like a fucking double whoopsie doodle.

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Speaker 3: And you brought me a condom from the Olympics. Yes, wow,

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Speaker 3: I love that you think I used condoms.

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Speaker 5: No, I didn't think that you did. I thought that

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Speaker 5: you'd want that condom. Freight the Olympics as like a momento.

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Speaker 3: How much sex is happening in Olympic village at the Olympics.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I think in the summer there is probably

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Speaker 5: a lot more happening. Like it's like I said, hotter

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Speaker 5: there there's more likenedity.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to disagree with you because of the climate.

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Speaker 3: When it's cold you need someone to snuggle with. There's

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Speaker 3: more of an impetus for it. To take a lover

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Speaker 3: in this summertime, it's like, fucking, we're hot, we're outside,

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Speaker 3: there's men and women everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Why choose one.

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Speaker 3: In the winter, I want to hunker That's what I

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Speaker 3: want to hunker down with, like a mountain man.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if people when they go to the

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Speaker 5: Olympics are like concerned about hunkering down, But if they were,

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Speaker 5: I do think that your theory would kind of pan out.

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Speaker 5: But when you're at the Olympics, so like now, because

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Speaker 5: there have been Olympic villages in the past that have

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Speaker 5: I went to in Korea, it was all of these

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Speaker 5: like condo buildings that had already been like bought. So

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Speaker 5: I shared like a three bedroom condo with like five people.

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Speaker 2: So how does that work with five people? Are you

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Speaker 3: Awful, But I guess that's part for the course, right

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Speaker 3: with the Olympics.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, and so they and then like everything's covered

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Speaker 2: And is there what city?

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Speaker 3: Like Okay, Salt Lake City and like say Whistler, Canada.

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Speaker 3: Those were two great spots for the Olympics, right A

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Speaker 3: Rio fucked it up big time, didn't they?

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Speaker 3: I think I mean it was weren't they swimming and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Paris too.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of sewage related summer incidents, I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of sewage related swimming. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Now you've had a lot of success since the Olympics,

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Speaker 3: and I think that there is a definite correlation or

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Speaker 3: being a figure skater and then being able to transition

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Speaker 3: from that, because there's a lot of athletes that have

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Speaker 3: trouble transitioning from their sport into the entertainment industry. But

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Speaker 3: I feel like figure skaters, specifically gay male figure skaters,

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Speaker 2: It's almost like you the world is your oyster when

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Speaker 5: I think like in the figure skating world, especially like

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of like internalized homophobia within the sport.

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Speaker 2: And it's gotten like so much better.

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Speaker 5: But when I was like younger, it was like you

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Speaker 5: just didn't want to be that because it was everything.

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Speaker 5: Like every like father I say, like in quotes, would

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Speaker 5: turn gay, which is but do you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but don't you become gay before you become a

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Speaker 2: I understand that not every male figure skater is gay.

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Speaker 3: I understand, yes, but you don't become gay by doing

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Speaker 3: a sport, just like you don't become trans by hanging

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Speaker 2: No, so what comes first? The chicken or gay is gay?

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Speaker 2: Or the ice gate the gay? The gay? Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: you don't become gay.

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Speaker 5: I was like, because gay, Yes, I was already become right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I think like being an athlete sets you up

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Speaker 3: But I like what you're saying because You're right, there's

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Speaker 3: some of these athletes that aren't able to parlay it

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Speaker 3: which is work ethic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right.

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Speaker 5: I think like I was very good, but I wasn't

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Speaker 5: and I think some people are intimidated by that, like workload.

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Speaker 5: But I told you before we recorded the podcast that

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Speaker 5: I had just read your book, and I feel like

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Speaker 5: I really see eye to eye with you in the

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Speaker 5: way that well, one, we're both one of six kids.

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Speaker 2: What number are you one? Oh? Ay, exactly, Well we're booked,

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Speaker 5: But I think that, like, uh, when I was reading

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Speaker 5: My mom was really willing, like when I was training,

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Speaker 5: And I think that that also helped me because I

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Speaker 2: But or maybe she wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Yes, she's moved on because the wife called her and said.

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Speaker 2: Well does it get any better? No?

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Speaker 1: Well, and we have a sixth name too, Pasha Pasha.

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Speaker 3: that means somebody had to go out on your behalf

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00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 3: and ask Share to write it. And she would have

441
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 3: had to have been a fan. Why she's just going

442
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 3: to write a random letter for somebody she doesn't know.

443
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 2: I mean, you have a point. What was it like

444
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: when you met Share?

445
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 3: Because I've met Share before and I felt like I

446
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,679
Speaker 3: was dealing with a non real person.

447
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 5: I felt like I was like Madame Tusson's like come alive.

448
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like night at the Museum.

449
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 3: I didn't want to take any more steps closer because

450
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: I didn't know where it began and where it's like, Yeah,

451
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 3: I was like the hair and the face it was

452
00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 3: she was we were in Vegas.

453
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: It was bad stage up after her show in Vegas.

454
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 3: This was so many years ago, and I remember just

455
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 3: looking at her and thinking is it okay?

456
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: Like is she okay? Is it okay?

457
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,719
Speaker 7: Where is it? Like?

458
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 2: Does it? Do I touch her?

459
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 5: It's very like it's abba hologram, because like a hologram

460
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 5: in person, she looks like a hologram.

461
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 2: Yes, And so somebody was like rushing.

462
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 5: They're like, you have to meet Share, and so like

463
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 5: they bring me over to her and she's like, you know,

464
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 5: it's it was the premiere of like the Share show,

465
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 5: like the Broadway play, and I'm like, hi, Share and

466
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 5: there and she's like hello, like you know, she's one

467
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,959
Speaker 5: of the animatronics from like Chuck E Cheese, just like

468
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 5: waving and then like I hear somebody whisper scream in

469
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 5: her ear and they're like, it's the skater you wrote

470
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 5: the piece about him, and she like lights up, and

471
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:46,959
Speaker 5: so I gave her a hug. And when I gave

472
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 5: her a hug, I've never felt anybody so corseted, so tight, so.

473
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: Wound up like a geisha like wound. Yes, I felt

474
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: like one loose thread. Share would have been all on.

475
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: The floor, like they'na say you felt the missing ribs

476
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: or something.

477
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't feel. She was hard to the touch, but

478
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: she was very nice.

479
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine that that would be something you

480
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: have to wrap like a doll and then you put

481
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: shoes on it and you're like take one foot forward,

482
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 3: one step forward, because when you see her dancing, like

483
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 3: just as recently as this last in the last few months,

484
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 3: she was at some event and I was like, wow,

485
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 3: Shares on stage wearing pantyhose and moving. I mean, you know,

486
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 3: she's not doing triple soucals or anything, but she was

487
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: fucking moving.

488
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I'm like, I mean, she's moving more than

489
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: I can move.

490
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 5: Right in this case, she's like getting fully decked the

491
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 5: thing and she and.

492
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: She's getting fucked or plucked, I should say, because.

493
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: She's got that young boyfriend who's like thirty years old

494
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: having a great time.

495
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question about when you came

496
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: out before, because you came out.

497
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: Is it twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen? You came out twenty

498
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: sixteen and then twenty eighteen were the Olympics.

499
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 5: Yes, So I actually I have a friend, her name's

500
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 5: Ashley Wagner, and in like twenty fourteen, she was going

501
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 5: to the Olympics in twenty fourteen, and they asked her

502
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 5: and she was like very outspoken about how she didn't

503
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 5: think Russia had come out with this like anti gaye

504
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 5: propagandla and it's twenty fourteen. A lot has happened in

505
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 5: the like last like eleven years of people speaking up

506
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 5: and they ask every athlete about you know, what do

507
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 5: they think about it? And everyone's like, well, you know,

508
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 5: I'm not from there. Who am I to knock their

509
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 5: traditions and whatever. And my friend Ashley was like super

510
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 5: out spoken. She was like, it's fucked up. And I remember,

511
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 5: like I had just come out of like the closet

512
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 5: myself like a few years earlier, and I wasn't out

513
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 5: like publicly or anything like that, and I was asked

514
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 5: about it, and I kind of skirted around the question,

515
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 5: and then eventually I didn't make that Olympic team, and

516
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 5: I in the years leading up to the twenty eighteen

517
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 5: Olympics was like, Okay, if I'm going to skate for

518
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 5: more years, I'm going to do everything that I wish

519
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 5: that I had done before. And I really regretted not

520
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 5: saying anything. And so in twenty fifteen I decided to

521
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 5: like come out publicly. You know, I have not an

522
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 5: Olympian or like a national champion yet at all, like

523
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 5: so nobody really cared. So it's like, okay, we know,

524
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 5: like nobody cared. It was for me like personally, and

525
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 5: so when I had already been out for like a

526
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 5: few publicly for a few years, and then when I

527
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 5: had made the Olympic team in twenty eighteen, that's when

528
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 5: I found out. It was like, oh, you're the first

529
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 5: openly gay American athlete.

530
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 3: So you didn't do it with the intention of being

531
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: the first openly gay no male figures.

532
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: Possible that that would be the twenty eight Yeah.

533
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also like my question because I think it's I

534
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 3: feel as a public figure that it is so important

535
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: and this is people disagree with me all the time

536
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: on it, but it's so important to be honest about

537
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: who you are because you don't understand how many people

538
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: you're helping. And that's not necessarily anyone's burden to carry,

539
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: Like you don't have to be a public person. And

540
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, like, yes, I have to

541
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: come out with every secret. But it's like if you're

542
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: if somebody, if you're part of a marginalized community and

543
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 3: you have a huge platform, it's kind of like, I

544
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: feel a personal responsibility to make sure that you are

545
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 3: loud and outspoken about it for everybody coming after you.

546
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?

547
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 5: I feel that like well, as an athlete and when

548
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 5: you go to the Olympics, it's like your time to

549
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 5: share your story and who you are, and sometimes you

550
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 5: just have a few minutes to do that during your performance,

551
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 5: during your interviews. And if I wanted to like perform

552
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 5: and I wanted people to connect with me, I it

553
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 5: was incredibly important that they knew who I was and

554
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 5: what I stood for and what was important to me.

555
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: And one of those cases was, like, you know, when

556
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 5: you're getting ready for the Olympics, there's this talk of

557
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 5: like enjoy the experience as much as possible, and for me,

558
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 5: I sat down and I thought, like, what does that

559
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 5: even mean? And it meant that, like, listen, I'm going

560
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 5: to go I'm going to skate great, I'm going to

561
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 5: do everything I can to be in the best shape

562
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 5: of my life. But I also want to enjoy myself

563
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 5: and I love the entertainment stuff, like I love connecting

564
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 5: with people, I love talking with people, I love making

565
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 5: people laugh. And so that means that I'm going to

566
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 5: go into and every interview and I'm going to act

567
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 5: like they're my best friend, and I'm going to answer

568
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 5: questions super honestly like I would if we were like

569
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 5: at dinner and I got asked this one question of

570
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 5: like what do you think of Mike Pence leading the

571
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 5: athlete delegation? And I remember like giving that interview in

572
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 5: my car at the rink, which is like in a

573
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 5: strip mall. So it's like I'm sitting in my car

574
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 5: at the Taco Bell light from like it's like pouring.

575
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: I look beautiful, by the way, It's just like gorgeous.

576
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 3: Beautiful right now, by the way. Yeah, your skin is

577
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: what is the word for that? Alabaster? Yeah, alabaster.

578
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: That is absolutely my like golf, Yes, of course it is. Well,

579
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: you're reaching it. I mean you're ascending. Thank you. Wow,

580
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm off track now, I know, but try and stay focused, okay,

581
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: Taco Bell. Yeah.

582
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 5: And I remember I was asked this question, and I

583
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 5: remember thinking in that moment it was like just answer

584
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 5: it honestly. And I answered it and was like, I

585
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 5: don't think that he like stay ends up for like

586
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 5: every athlete. I don't think he should be leading the

587
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 5: athlete delegation. Somebody who was like a proponent of conversion

588
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 5: therapy doesn't represent me. Somebody who thinks that I'm mentally

589
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 5: unwell does not represent who I am. And I said it,

590
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 5: and it was just like okay, great, like we move

591
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: in and like how are you feeling? Like is the

592
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 5: next question? And then like a few days later it

593
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 5: was like okay, That's when I really felt like the

594
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 5: momentum of like what I had said, because I was

595
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 5: just like some nobody was not favorite for.

596
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: Gold or whatever.

597
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 5: It's this old gay guy going to like the Olympics

598
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 5: for the first time.

599
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: Who cares?

600
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 5: And I remember, like I was, you know, we have

601
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 5: all of our music like downloaded or for our programs

602
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 5: on our phones, so like I would always put my

603
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 5: phone on airplane mode when I was training so I

604
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 5: could play my music and my mom wouldn't be like

605
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 5: calling me in the middle of like wop yeah exactly

606
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 5: exactly my famous routine just walked up. Yes, And so

607
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 5: I turned my phone back on and I have like

608
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 5: thirty missed calls, and I'm like, what's going on? So

609
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: I find out I call my agent at the time,

610
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: and he's like the Office of the Vice President wants

611
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 5: to like they want to set up a meeting, and

612
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 5: I'm like for what, And so you know, I've.

613
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: Got a tutorial right to send me to camp? Yeah,

614
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: and so to.

615
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: Take him to camp with you because I believe he's

616
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: gay too.

617
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: I think he has a tendency. Can't be that homophobic

618
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: unless you're gay, it doesn't make any sense.

619
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: No, it's always the case. Yeah, I mean, I'm just

620
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: dating always. I'm platitudinizing right now. It's always the case.

621
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: It's always the case.

622
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 5: So I was dealing with like the communications person at

623
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: US Figure Skating as well, because they went to like

624
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 5: the Olympic Committee who forwarded them to US Figure Skating,

625
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 5: like our governing body. And she was this lesbian woman, Barb, obviously,

626
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 5: and she's like.

627
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: So, kid, what are you going to do?

628
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 5: And I said, Barb, tell Mike Pens to fuck himself,

629
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 5: like I'm not gonna do this meeting, like I have

630
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 5: to practice. And she's like, I'm not going to say

631
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 5: it in those terms, but I love you. Hung up

632
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 5: And so then that was that until I got to

633
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 5: the Olympics, where like it had leaked that they had

634
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: reached out and they tried to set up this meeting

635
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 5: and I denied it, and then it became like a

636
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 5: much bigger story once I had gotten there.

637
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then and did so you never ever had

638
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: any interaction with him no, and I never will God willing.

639
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: Oh not.

640
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: Well, he seems to be in the background right now.

641
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: I'm surprised they haven't arrested him yet. It's shocking, isn't it.

642
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: Actually it is shocking. Are you ready to take some callers.

643
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: We're going to take a break and we're going to

644
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: be right back with Adam Rippen. And then we're going

645
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: to take some callers and we're back with Adam Rippin. Adam,

646
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: you're so delightful.

647
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to just double check pronunciation for your last name.

648
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: As long as you say Adam Rippon, Rippin, it doesn't matter.

649
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: Yes, we're going to take a break and we'll be

650
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: right back with Adam Rippan.

651
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: And we're back with Adam Rippan.

652
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 5: You have to say your name right, it doesn't I

653
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: feel like that part doesn't.

654
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm not a bunch of different Yeah, Adam Rippon is

655
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: your name? Okay? Okay, thank you. Don't suck it up again.

656
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: I won't. Yeah, okay, So.

657
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: Don't doesn't that make you wish that like I had

658
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 5: a name that was like simpler. No, I don't feel

659
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 5: any like connection to Ripon or rip In. Yeah, I

660
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 5: feel like handler is so like rolls right off.

661
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: The hand hand handler or hand job. Yeah, I wouldn't

662
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: mind hand jobs.

663
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: You don't ever have to go handler like sometimes I

664
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: have to enunciate handler really yeah, I think is I

665
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: have a problem with d's and L handler?

666
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

667
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: I guess you're right because handler handler sounds like you're

668
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: missing with the D handler.

669
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 5: Because I feel like if I saw rippon, i'd say

670
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: rip in like it's not I'm not saying like baton

671
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 5: for like button right.

672
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: Like a aren't you saying baton? I am never mind

673
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: red handed. Yeah.

674
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: Well, our first callers today are Jackie and Hope.

675
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: Actually we need these on. Is it Jackie or Hope?

676
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: I mean's fun you'll see why.

677
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: So Jackie is the one who wrote in and said,

678
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: Dear Chelsea, My wife and I have been married for

679
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: almost eleven years together for thirteen. Several months ago, my

680
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: wife had a coworker who was very forthcoming in her attraction.

681
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: To both of us.

682
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 7: It definitely threw.

683
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Us for a loop, considering that we've never considered ourselves

684
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: the polytype or open to other partners.

685
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: But we opened ourselves up to the idea.

686
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: Things got a little weird and we decided to take

687
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: some space and not talk. Fast forward six months later

688
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: and we found ourselves all at better places in our lives,

689
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: so we felt we could revisit the conversation. At first,

690
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: we thought we'd just have some fun times in the

691
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: bedroom and just be friends aside from that, but we

692
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: quickly realized that we really liked her and started forming

693
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: more of an emotional connection as well as a physical one.

694
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: My wife is more used to sharing me, considering that

695
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: when we started dating, I was a divorcee with three kids,

696
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: and I was also dating another girl who was in

697
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: a polyamorous marriage. Me, on the other hand, I've always

698
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: had her all to myself and all of her attention,

699
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: so as we move forward, I can tell that she

700
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: isn't experience and seeing the same insecurities that I am.

701
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: I also really like this girl.

702
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: We connect on so many levels, and I feel myself

703
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: missing her and wanting to spend more time together. But

704
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: I also catch myself feeling a little jealous at times

705
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: of their relationship. For the most part, we've spent most

706
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: of our time together as a threesome, but it's the

707
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: moments when they see each other or talk when I'm

708
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: not around that I worry they'll form a stronger bond

709
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: than my wife and I. I find myself getting annoyed

710
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: with myself for not being able to just be as

711
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: fluid as they are. And they're both doing everything right,

712
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: saying the right things, showing the right amount of affection,

713
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: and I really love the situation for the most part.

714
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: It has absolutely enhanced our marriage with all of the

715
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: communication and transparency required to even make such a scenario work.

716
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: So why am I still.

717
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: Having these feelings from time to time? I can imagine

718
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: having this beautiful relationship together as a threaple, and I

719
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: really want it all to work out, So any advice

720
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: to get me out of my head and out of

721
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: my own way would be amazing. Sincerely, CHECKI, Hi, Checky, Jackie, Jackie.

722
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: And Hope.

723
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: Check Republic. I just have to say this about throubles.

724
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: If you up for this situation and most of this

725
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, you have to be okay

726
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: with every aspect. I know that doesn't make it okay,

727
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: but you have to have a conversation with yourself every

728
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: time these feelings come up that you just said yourself

729
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: in the letter that the good outweighs the bad, and

730
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: it's just your insecurity, So for in order for you

731
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: to say yes to this situation, it's almost like there's

732
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: not really room for your insecurity because you can't extinguish

733
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: your insecurity, but you can constantly just remind yourself that

734
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: these are thoughts in your head.

735
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: You have an understanding.

736
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: You guys have an open understanding and arrangement, and it's

737
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: almost like being with somebody and expecting them to cheat

738
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: on you every single time you're not with them.

739
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: What's the point of that.

740
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: You've already said yes to this situation, so you really

741
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: have to kind of go at it with open arms

742
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: and hope and assume that the best is yet to come,

743
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 3: and assume the best everyone has their best intentions because

744
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: coming from a place of self doubt or being non trustworthy,

745
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: and it's all self doubt.

746
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: It's from what I can gather from you.

747
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: Letter isn't moving anyone in any direction, but just like

748
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: leaving you feeling not great about everything.

749
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that as each day gets easier, so

750
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 8: that's a plus. And I think in the beginning it

751
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 8: was more the fact that they had a prior work

752
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 8: relationship that I felt like, oh, they know each other

753
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 8: already a little bit better and so like not sure

754
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 8: if I was gonna get on that same level. But

755
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 8: like with time, you know, we are finding that we

756
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 8: have a lot more stuff in common. So like that

757
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 8: has been helpful.

758
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: But but it's also you have to like have a

759
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: lot of respect for yourself in the fact that you

760
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: are unique and what you have to offer, nobody else

761
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: has to offer, no matter what the dynamic, no matter

762
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: if they spend more time together than you do.

763
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: She doesn't have what you have.

764
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: She is a completely different person and offers a completely

765
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: different set of excitement than you do. It's not one

766
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: is more than the other, it's one is different.

767
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: Than the other.

768
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 7: So that's what she tells me.

769
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: So like you have to really.

770
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: Work on your self love and your self respect because

771
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: that's what it's all about. It's about no knowing that

772
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: you have high value and that you're giving high value,

773
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: and that you're not competing with anybody in the situation.

774
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I definitely don't think it feels like a competition.

775
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 8: I think it's feels or was feeling a little bit

776
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 8: more like fomo. I guess in a way like right,

777
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 8: what am I missing? Or which is also stupid, like

778
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 8: fomo is stupid. I you know, what do you think, Adam?

779
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that like in this situation, when

780
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 5: you're feeling these like different doubts and insecurities, maybe you

781
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 5: never wrapped your head around a polyamorous relationship before and

782
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 5: so it's it's new to you. And I think that

783
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 5: like one thing that you know, when we have these insecurities,

784
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: sometimes like the scariest thing is just saying them out loud.

785
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 5: So I feel like to keep everything like out in

786
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 5: the open so that you're not holding onto anything just

787
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 5: thinking like, oh, just it's stupid that I'm thinking that.

788
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: Just say the stupid thing and get it now.

789
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 7: And I have been.

790
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 8: I've been very vocal with like, you know, just so

791
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 8: you know, because I think it does help to put

792
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 8: that out there. I have actually had open relationships with

793
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 8: every partner I've been with, but it's different this time because,

794
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 8: like you know, we've been together longer than any other

795
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 8: relationship I've had, and it was I think it's just

796
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 8: a little scarier opening up our marriage because like it's

797
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 8: on a different level than any other relationship.

798
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 7: So I have hopes that everything is gonna work out.

799
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think just like that constant check in with

800
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 5: like all partners, just to make sure everybody's always, like

801
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 5: constantly on the same page, because I think some of

802
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 5: that fear is that maybe there is a miscommunication or

803
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: maybe somebody's feeling something that somebody's not. And I think

804
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 5: that like just a constant check in between the three.

805
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: Of you, but a regular it's like a schedule check in,

806
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: not a constant check in, because I feel like it's

807
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: not every time something comes up for you, because you

808
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 3: have to figure out a way to self soothe. Also,

809
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: you have to understand that the voices in your head

810
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: sometimes are just silly.

811
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: Then that's all they are.

812
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 3: There's a difference between like, you know, being impulsive and

813
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: being instinctual. Just because you feel left out, then you're like,

814
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: you don't have to react to that. Then you could go, oh, yeah,

815
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: you know why I feel left out. This has happened

816
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 3: before when they're together.

817
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: This is just me.

818
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: This is like the negative narrative I have in my head.

819
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: That's not happening. I'm safe, I'm in a healthy, loving relationship.

820
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: Everything's out on the table. And then you talk yourself

821
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: out of it most times and you're fine if you

822
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: really have a ghet or of feeling and you're like

823
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 3: something's off, then that's a different situation. But what I

824
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: suspect and what I'm hearing is that you just have

825
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 3: you know, this kind of negative self not self talk,

826
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: but this kind of negative idea of what's happening without you,

827
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 3: that you're missing out, And I think you can talk

828
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: yourself out of that, like you can counsel yourself to

829
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: make that going. Oh, this is what happens when they

830
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: go away. Okay, this is what happens when they're on

831
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: a date. Oh, I'm doing my thing, Okay, I'm going.

832
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 8: To be You're not doing any of that separately. We

833
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 8: have agreed that, like we're the our dynamic. What we

834
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 8: want is like the attraction is it's like the three

835
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 8: of us. So it's a little bit more unique and

836
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 8: where like we don't have intentions of dating separately apart

837
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 8: from like each other whatever. But there are moments where

838
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 8: like there might be a work thing that they might

839
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 8: have to discuss or like you know, she and I

840
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 8: go do something together. But when we have those moments

841
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 8: one on one, it's more of like a platonic friendly nature.

842
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 8: We're not like doing anything physical or whatever. Unless we're

843
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 8: all together. And I think that makes everybody feel more

844
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 8: comfortable because that was the attraction on her part, was

845
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 8: like us together. It wasn't like oh I have the

846
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 8: hots for you or I have the hots for your wife.

847
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 8: It was like you guys are you know? So just

848
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 8: kind of like went here WiFi. Do you have anything

849
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 8: to say for yourself? You've been very quiet.

850
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 7: I usually always am. They don't let me get a

851
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 7: word in.

852
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 6: So that's kind of been my biggest hurdle is I

853
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 6: now have two of these and they gang up holding them.

854
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 7: I you know, I mean I'm at max capacity right now.

855
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 7: Let's just say it.

856
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 6: But yeah, Like I was used to sharing her and

857
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 6: sharing partners beforehand, so I think like just seeing them

858
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 6: bond has been great. Like I get a sense of

859
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 6: happiness when I see them being happy or just connecting,

860
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 6: because I feel like that's that's the biggest thing that

861
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 6: draws me to this, is it's a bonus. I don't

862
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 6: look at it as like breaking down the pie and

863
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 6: like we're getting less of each other. It's just more

864
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 6: yeah mm hmmm, yeah, Yeah, I mean I'm taking it

865
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 6: a day at a time. That's all I can say. Yeah,

866
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 6: I didn't even know about.

867
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 7: This whole call in thing. She forwarded me an email.

868
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 6: She told me what she did, and I was like,

869
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 6: I would like to sit on this, even though I'm

870
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 6: mostly here for technical support, but i'm usually a few

871
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 6: a few words. They don't let me get any any

872
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 6: words in other words, Okay, Well, you.

873
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: Guys seem like you all respect each other and love

874
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: each other, so I think everything's going to be fine.

875
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 3: I think you just have to get those little voices

876
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: out of your head, and you do that by exercising

877
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: your self soothing your self love and your self respect.

878
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: There's nothing, there's nothing to see. It's kind of like

879
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: there's nothing to see here.

880
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, like even body language together, and like the way

881
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: you're both looking at each other when the other like

882
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: you guys have something really special.

883
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: So I don't think there's a.

884
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 8: Lot that's I think that betther part of it too,

885
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 8: for me was that like I have done this before

886
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 8: with other, you know, relationships, and it came so easy

887
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 8: to me, and it's like this time, it's like I

888
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 8: think it's because it felt like there's so much more

889
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 8: at stake and so much more to lose.

890
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 7: She'll share this and you're hard to show. I mean,

891
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 7: I got a real, real prize on my hands here,

892
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 7: but so yeah, that's part of it.

893
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 8: It's like, am I an idiot for doing this because

894
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 8: like they have so much more to lose, like you know,

895
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 8: but I'm like no, because I don't know.

896
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 7: I'm trying to just be organic with it.

897
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 8: It's like an opportunity presented itself, and I feel like

898
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 8: we owe it to ourselves to explore it. That's kind

899
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 8: of where we're at with the thing, because we think

900
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 8: they're looking for it by any by any means.

901
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think you do owe it to yourselves

902
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 5: and just enjoy it, you know, experience.

903
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 8: We're recent empty nesters, so it's just like the timing

904
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 8: and all of it just seems like what are we

905
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 8: Why should we not see what happens?

906
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 7: Why not? Yea, so well?

907
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: Will you check in with us in a few months?

908
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 7: Absolutely, it was good to do that.

909
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't care from you again?

910
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: Love it Okay, Bye, ladies, Nice to you so much.

911
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 7: Nice to meet you.

912
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: Bye another happy throat wile served. Have you ever been

913
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: part of the threat ball?

914
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 6: No?

915
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Do you have friends who are Yeah? I think so.

916
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: Are you in a relationship yeah, I'm married. Oh oh god,

917
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: how's that going? Good? Do you have chick kids?

918
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 5: No?

919
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: I can't even say it. I'm like, well, I feel

920
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: the same way. It's like I stutter when I say kids. No,

921
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: I no, I don't I don't want kids. Yeah. Good,

922
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 2: it's kind of what's the point the world is about

923
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: to explode? Well, I know, bad timing, Yeah, to have children.

924
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: Anytime I see a pregnant woman, I just am so

925
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 3: confid you need a ride and like yeah to mars.

926
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: Well, our next caller is Catherine with a K and

927
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: this is a long email. I just want you to

928
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: It's a very long email, but kind of.

929
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: Like it all needs to be there, so okay. Sometimes

930
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: emails I have trouble for the same Yeah, well you through?

931
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, hold her hand.

932
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: I am in a conundrum that I don't know how

933
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: to get out of, but won't.

934
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: At this time for one main reason. Let me explain.

935
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: I've known this guy since twenty nineteen. We met on

936
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: Ashley Madison and started at three year sugar baby.

937
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 2: Sugar daddy relationship.

938
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: We hung out once a week the majority of the arrangement,

939
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: with more time when our schedules allowed. We lived an

940
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: hour from one another, and this dynamic was great for

941
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: both of us because he's a workaholic and I was

942
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: just as busy being a single mom to my two

943
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: sons while working full time and dealing with their unhelpful

944
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: co parent dad. Obviously, because we met on Ashley Madison,

945
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: he was married with two children of his own. I

946
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: knew this, he was transparent about it, and it worked

947
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: out perfectly for me, as married men tend to be

948
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: too busy for a real relationship. Call me terrible, but

949
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: that dynamic works best for me at the stage of

950
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: my life. From the beginning, we both said this was

951
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: strictly business. Both our sexual needs were met, I received

952
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: financial compensation, and we respected the boundaries surrounding his married

953
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: life and my children. Then, of course, he fell in

954
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: love and wanted more, while I fell in love too,

955
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: I didn't want more. I wanted the arrangement to be

956
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: kept the same, the main reason being I didn't trust

957
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't do the same thing to me that

958
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: he was currently doing to his wife. My marriage also

959
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: ended because my ex husband did the exact same thing

960
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: to me. It's crazy how I was willingly to be

961
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: the other woman. I own my shit, and therapy has

962
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: been great for me. During our initial three year relationship,

963
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: he never once mentioned leaving his wife, but did state

964
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 1: that they should get divorced. He told me they weren't

965
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: sleeping together.

966
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: Believable. I don't know.

967
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: Divorce is messy since he was married. I met someone else,

968
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: which I didn't feel guilty about. He eventually found out

969
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden decided to leave his wife.

970
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: I'm sure that this was in an effort to prove

971
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: to me he wanted to be with me.

972
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm not naive. I know he would eventually do to

973
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: me what he did to his wife.

974
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: And we stopped seeing each other after in an argument

975
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: in which he said some nasty things. No one talks

976
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: to me that way. We've both moved on, or so

977
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: I thought. A couple months ago, I texted him in

978
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: a weak moment. He responded, We met up and slept

979
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: together once in April. We both wanted to do it again,

980
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: but haven't. He is divorced from his wife, currently living

981
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: with a new lady.

982
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 7: He claims is.

983
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: Great and he's happy. But if that's the case, why

984
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 2: is he meeting me? I know why.

985
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: Our sex is phenomenal. My main struggle is that I

986
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: know this is wrong. I'm not a stupid woman. I

987
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: know he's a liar and a cheater and always will be.

988
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: I put myself in that category two because my current

989
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: boyfriend has no idea. I don't want to get back together,

990
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: but I know what I like sexually, and he delivers

991
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: it every single time. I think it's purely sexually driven,

992
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: because I don't yearn for him or find myself missing him.

993
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: I only text what i'm horny to note. I am

994
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: not having grade sex with my current boyfriend. He tries,

995
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: but it's not there. So what's a lady to do.

996
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: We're only here on this earth for a short time,

997
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: we might as well have grade sex. Please give me

998
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: some advice. I admire you as a fellow boundary living,

999
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: fierce independent woman.

1000
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: Boundary loving. I'm a boundary I don't have boundaries.

1001
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: And then the day I emailed her, she emailed me

1002
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: with an update that said, we sleve together this morning.

1003
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: Phenomenal as usual.

1004
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: So Hi, Hi Catherine, Hi Catherine, Hi Catherine, Hi.

1005
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: This is our special guest, Adam Rippon here today and

1006
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: he is here to counsel you.

1007
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: Yes, that was a long letter. I was being able

1008
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: to pay attention.

1009
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: Throughout the whole letter, there was a lot happening, a

1010
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: lot of different characters.

1011
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Adam, do you want to start this one? Sure,

1012
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: I'll start.

1013
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 5: I think that you're right in thinking that, like, if

1014
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 5: you get into a relationship with this guy, that it

1015
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 5: will end in disappointment. It'll end up the same way

1016
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 5: that it started. Basically, Yeah, I think you know that.

1017
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 5: And I think that the like forbidden sort of love

1018
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 5: and the lusts that you're able to like have with

1019
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 5: each other can be really passionate because it is what

1020
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: it is, Like you do that and it's then you

1021
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 5: don't see each other, and it's this like really exciting,

1022
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 5: like adrenaline pumping thing. And I think that more so

1023
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 5: than like the sex with him, it's that rush of

1024
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 5: adrenaline that you're feeling. And I think it's the rush.

1025
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 5: And I think that you think of that rush, and

1026
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 5: you think of like the thrill that like that sexual

1027
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 5: chemistry that you guys have is so intoxicating that it's

1028
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 5: probably making the sex better feeling better than it actually is.

1029
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: And I think like when you're with your with your boyfriend, you're.

1030
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 5: Thinking, like God, it's just it's not that exciting, well,

1031
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 5: because it's not wrong and it's not like forbidden. So

1032
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 5: I think it's that like adrenaline, and sometimes it's like

1033
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 5: thinking about that will make it less exciting. If you're thinking,

1034
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 5: it's just these chemicals like pumping into my brain making

1035
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 5: you want to do this, What do you think, Catherine with.

1036
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 4: The King, No, I definitely agree, that's definitely part of it.

1037
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: Even when we were exclusively but maybe not exclusively on

1038
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: his part, seeing each other back in twenty nineteen, it

1039
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: was the same thing. I saw him once a week

1040
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 4: and then you know, he went off and did his

1041
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: life for the rest of the week and I did mine,

1042
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 4: and then when that day came around the next week,

1043
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 4: it was new and exciting again.

1044
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 7: So I get that.

1045
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: Part two where I struggle the most is do I

1046
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: have feelings or is it just the lustiness that we

1047
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: just talked about, like the fun and exciting and the wrongness,

1048
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: or do I actually really care?

1049
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: I think that you have to trust your female instinct,

1050
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: your internal instinct, which is this guy is trouble.

1051
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: Is the right voice in your head that's you've been saying.

1052
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 3: You've said that three times in that letter in three

1053
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: different ways, and you said it again with regard to

1054
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: the situation, and as it stands today, we as women

1055
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: need to pay attention to that inner voice. It is

1056
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: protecting us. You don't may not even ever find out

1057
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 3: what it's protecting you from. Hopefully you don't find out

1058
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 3: what it's protecting you from. But I would just say

1059
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: to everyone who's listening today, always listen to that fucking

1060
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: voice that is like your internal like reader telling you no, no, no, no,

1061
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: something's off here, and it's never fucking wrong. And we

1062
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: instead think, oh, well, this is fun. I might have

1063
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: fun with him. I mean, he's doing the same everything.

1064
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: His behavior hasn't changed at all. He's got some other

1065
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: woman now, and so you're now talking about having an

1066
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: affair with him.

1067
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: But for what you like?

1068
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 3: Why just because it's good sex. That's not a good

1069
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 3: enough reason.

1070
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: I don't think, I know, I agree with you, And

1071
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 4: that is the main thing. Other than and sometimes people

1072
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 4: can play pretend attentive. Would check in things like that, right,

1073
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 4: Things that always start at the beginning of something and

1074
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 4: if you're lucky, continue on so you have a lasting relationship.

1075
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: But eventually those things die. Yeah, but that's a chase

1076
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: that's a chase.

1077
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: This guy has demonstrated his behavior over the years, and

1078
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: it's pretty consistent, right, And the idea that if you

1079
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: were to be with him, he's going to change into

1080
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: this different person is exactly what you think.

1081
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: It is bullshit.

1082
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 7: I know that.

1083
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 4: I think I just needed to hear it from some

1084
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: other people. Yeah, of course, to kind of solidify what

1085
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 4: I already do know. So then I guess my main

1086
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 4: question goes too, in which I know I can block

1087
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: and such, How do I resist the orges to text

1088
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 4: because A, I know he's always going to answer, and B,

1089
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 4: like we said at the beginning, it is very very

1090
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 4: good for whatever the reasons. Maybe the sex is very

1091
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: very good.

1092
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: Do you know how you're going to resist your urges

1093
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: to text him?

1094
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 7: How?

1095
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: Because you're a grown ass fucking woman. You are grown

1096
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: I knew you were gonna say what hello?

1097
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: Because you don't feel like texting him back anymore. It's

1098
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: a wrap on this guy. Forget about him. You are

1099
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: a grown woman who is empowered. Give yourself a little

1100
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: bit more power. You are not going to text him again.

1101
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: You don't need his validation, you don't need to have

1102
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: good sex with him. There are millions of men out there,

1103
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: find somebody else to fuck.

1104
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: You already have somebody to fuck, don't you. Isn't that

1105
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: wasn't that part of the letter that you're also fucking

1106
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: someone else?

1107
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 7: I am?

1108
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 3: Yes, so yeah, it's not as good and bad. Okay, Okay,

1109
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: this guy's not the right one. Find somebody else to

1110
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 3: tickle your fancy. I seriously, like you've said to me

1111
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: in this letter enough times for me to know for

1112
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: you that you need to be told to trust yourself

1113
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: and trust your instincts.

1114
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah you know already.

1115
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you knew the answer all along, like

1116
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 5: you were alluding to it throughout the whole email.

1117
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 3: Go write down on a piece of paper that right,

1118
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: I am a grown woman.

1119
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: Write that down and put it on your mirror in

1120
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: your bathroom.

1121
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 3: And I want you to say that to yourself every

1122
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 3: fucking time you have an urge, walk into the mirror,

1123
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 3: look at that, and say to yourself in the mirror,

1124
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: I am a grown ass woman.

1125
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to do that. Yeah, Okay, let's not

1126
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: have this conversation again.

1127
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: Okay, we will not, Okay, okay, Catherine with Okay, good

1128
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: luck with everything.

1129
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in.

1130
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 7: Thank you bye.

1131
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: Bye meeting on Ashley Madison. Also, I'm looking at myself

1132
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 2: in here.

1133
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 5: I look like Steve Harvey in this shirt, which has

1134
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 5: been a tough.

1135
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: With white face.

1136
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean your skin couldn't be more opposite than

1137
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: Steve Harvey's.

1138
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: I have to be honest with you. Similar.

1139
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that is a Steve Harvey shirt. Yes, that's

1140
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 3: not what you're giving is Steve Harvey. Like you have

1141
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: to really go, you have to really get in there

1142
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 3: to figure that out.

1143
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1144
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ashley Madison, I almost started watching that documentary the

1145
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: other night on Netflix or wherever it is, and I

1146
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: was like, I don't care. I don't care about this story.

1147
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: I don't care about Tawdrey. I don't like tawdry stories.

1148
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: I don't like tawd Like. I tried to watch that

1149
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: Poop Cruise. I'm like, this is tawdry.

1150
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: The poop Cruise, Miss Netflix all about there.

1151
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: There's a cruise that like lost their power in the

1152
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 3: middle of some ocean and then everyone has a poop

1153
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: it And I was like, you know what this is.

1154
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: They had to poop and buckets. When you don't like

1155
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: like poop, I don't like cruise. I don't like poop.

1156
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: I don't like cruises. I don't I don't like festivals,

1157
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: you know, whenever they're like I've never been, I will

1158
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: never go. Sorry. I don't need to be like dusty,

1159
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: like I don't know, sweaty and dusty and hot and

1160
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: thirsty and being on drugs. It's too much of a combination,

1161
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: like I want to be on You hate drugs, Yeah,

1162
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 2: I hate drugs. I hate them. Well, should take a

1163
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: break and wrap up with a quickie.

1164
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: Sure, we're going to take a break and we'll be

1165
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 3: right back with Adam Rippon. Am I saying it now?

1166
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: I or even too much?

1167
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 6: No?

1168
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: I think you can make it more and more.

1169
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna we're back with Adam Rippan, the litlt

1170
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: and I have so many different ways I can say things.

1171
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: Oh, excellent.

1172
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: Well, our last call comes from Jess. She says, dear Chelsea,

1173
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: from one dog lover to another, I need your help

1174
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: before I spiral. I rescued a dog from the shelter

1175
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: seven months ago. She's a little over a year old now,

1176
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: and since the day I brought her home, I have

1177
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: been her everything. I feed her, I walk her, I

1178
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: give her peanut butter. I take her to the dog park.

1179
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: I clean up her emotional and literal messes. Basically, I'm

1180
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: her unpaid therapist, chef, chauffeur, and life coach. And yet

1181
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: this bitch is obsessed with my husband. The man does nothing,

1182
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: He didn't even want a dog. He barely acknowledges her existence.

1183
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: And still she looks at him like he's the second

1184
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: coming of Caesar Milan. She snuggles him, She follows him around,

1185
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: She waits for him at the door, like he's deployed overseas.

1186
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: I could be on fire and she'd be like, but

1187
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 2: where's dad? Chelsea? Help?

1188
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: How do I get this furry little trader to appreciate

1189
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: the woman who saved her from doggy prison and spoon

1190
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,479
Speaker 1: feeds her high quality kibble every day.

1191
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 2: Attached to a photo for reference.

1192
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: Please note her delusional level of devotion centreats and therapy.

1193
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: Send help, sincerely, Jess.

1194
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: Hi, Jess, this is this is our special guest, Adam Rippon.

1195
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: Hi.

1196
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 7: I see you.

1197
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you too.

1198
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: Have you thought about is killing your husband an option

1199
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: or considering it? Yeah? Not not with a gun, not

1200
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: in a violent way, like a.

1201
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: Way and snuggling.

1202
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 3: Oh, there's nothing you can do.

1203
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: No, there's nothing you can do.

1204
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 3: I mean, all you could try to do is let

1205
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: him do all of the work that you're doing and

1206
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 3: see if that flips a switch and the dog because

1207
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: sometimes dogs like the person that plays harder to get you.

1208
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 7: Know what I mean.

1209
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: But there's nothing you could do about a dog's affection

1210
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 3: my dogs. First of all, you're coming to the wrong

1211
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: person for good dog advice. My dogs don't respect me.

1212
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 3: None of them have ever respected me. They don't understand

1213
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: how hard I work and how much I provide for them.

1214
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: They love me, but they don't respect me. So like

1215
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: you asking me how to get your dog to love

1216
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: you more is like it's like talking to It's like

1217
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: talking to Liza Minellie about not doing any pills.

1218
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I don't know how to

1219
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: help you.

1220
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: But what I can say is you can try and

1221
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 3: take the responsibilities, put them all on your husband and

1222
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 3: see if that changes it and flip a switch.

1223
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

1224
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 3: Star Well, right, right, But but like there's something to

1225
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: be said for you know, everyone says, oh, it's who

1226
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: feeds them, who doesn't, who takes them for walks, who

1227
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: does that like, maybe if he is doing all of

1228
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: those things, if you're doing all of those things and

1229
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 3: he already and your dog loves him so much, maybe

1230
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 3: if he's doing all those things, the dog will start

1231
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: being more attracted to you because he doesn't feel like

1232
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: you're waiting on him.

1233
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: And is it a he or she? She?

1234
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 3: It's a she that she she won't feel like you're

1235
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 3: waiting on him handed her, hand and foot.

1236
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of genuine confusion on this show. I'm

1237
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: so sorry.

1238
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 7: That's okay.

1239
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've considered maybe she's just a whore

1240
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: and she just loves maybe. Yeah, I mean, yeah, they are.

1241
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: I mean a girl dog with a man. I can

1242
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: see where you're going with that. My dog is very

1243
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 3: into females, loves females like he's very sexual. You know,

1244
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: he wants to be around women all the time. He

1245
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 3: knows exactly the faces to make. It's very manipulative. He

1246
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: only wants to me when he needs something, you know

1247
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: what I mean. He's not like coming over and going, hey,

1248
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: you want to hug in the middle of the day.

1249
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: It's like food related. Uh huh.

1250
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1251
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: He is a protector. Actually, Actually, Doug is.

1252
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: The best dog I've had so in terms of like

1253
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: a relationship.

1254
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: But he doesn't.

1255
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: When I say Doug, come, it's like I might as

1256
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 3: well be talking to a hot air balloon.

1257
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: Or Adam Rappon or Adam Rappon.

1258
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, this actually might be a time

1259
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: for a second dog.

1260
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just like you need to get a dog

1261
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: for yourself.

1262
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 7: You have a second dog.

1263
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 5: Oh wait, what's the deal with the second dog?

1264
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1265
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 5: I have two dogs too, Jessica, and I feel kind

1266
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 5: of your pain.

1267
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 7: I have Achwaa.

1268
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: He is twelve years old and he was also rescued.

1269
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 3: And it's funny because it was my husband dog first,

1270
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: but now he is obsessed with.

1271
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: Me, So you know what it is? Yeah, but well

1272
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: but I can't believe you. I can't believe you how

1273
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: greedy you have a dog that he rescued. First of all,

1274
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 2: you don't have to say that chihuahua was rescued.

1275
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 3: Nobody is going to a breeder to buy chihuahuas, so

1276
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 3: you don't again, Okay, okay, we know it's a rescue,

1277
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: but I mean, you already have a dog that is

1278
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: obsessed with you. That's his dog, and now the same

1279
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: thing happened to you and you're calling into a dear Chelsea.

1280
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: You know, I always have two kids who are also

1281
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 2: obsessed with me.

1282
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 7: But I want all of them.

1283
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: If people keep coming out of the woodwork during this

1284
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 3: phone call alone, I mean, I think everything's good, everything's

1285
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 3: fine with you, and just keep going and just hope

1286
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: for the best and be grateful for the love that

1287
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: you are. Go where the light is, Harriet fair enough,

1288
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: And it's over there. It's it's next to a heat lamp,

1289
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 3: next to the chihuahua.

1290
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 5: Uh huh celebrating their thirteenth birthday.

1291
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, he saves with my hating times.

1292
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, we'll take care. Thanks for calling in.

1293
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: I thank you bye.

1294
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 3: Talk about a problem, not problem, but it's like a

1295
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: non problem problem.

1296
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

1297
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 5: The hardest thing about I never had dogs until I

1298
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 5: got the dogs that I have now. I have Tony

1299
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 5: and Tracy. Tony's from Mexico, Tijuana and Tracy's from a

1300
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 5: dumpster in Bakersfield.

1301
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: Oh and we got Tracy when.

1302
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 5: She was like one year old already, she didn't know

1303
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 5: her name, she wasn't trained at all, like total street dog.

1304
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: And Tony is like we had him since he was

1305
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: like a puppy.

1306
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 5: He's like great, And Tracy, I've really had to learn that,

1307
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 5: like dogs just don't think the same way that we do,

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Speaker 5: and like sometimes like you just need to think of

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Speaker 5: Like I think in this situation, it's like the dog

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Speaker 5: is just associating like relaxing with the husband, because the

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Speaker 5: husband's always relaxing when they're together, and when like the

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Speaker 5: dog is with Jessica, I think the dog is just like,

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Speaker 5: oh wet, this is what I who I eat with,

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Speaker 5: but this is who I relax with. Like dogs compartmentalize

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Speaker 5: like different things like that.

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Speaker 2: And Tracy, she's also a huge bitch my dog. I mean,

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Speaker 2: do we really know what dogs are thinking? And do

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Speaker 2: we really care? I don't.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I care too much, I think, But it's like

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Speaker 3: what could they possibly be thinking?

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Speaker 2: Not much, I'll tell you that what are they thinking?

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Speaker 3: They forget people when they're gone, and they remember you

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Speaker 3: when you come back, so there can't be a big

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Speaker 3: margin of thinking, you know what I mean. They're like,

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Speaker 3: votes you again, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: To see you, and then three minutes later they're over it.

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Speaker 2: So it's like if nothing matters real, it doesn't know

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Speaker 2: it nothing does matter.

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Speaker 3: All right, Adam Rappan, I can't believe we finally got

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Speaker 3: the pronunciation of your name right. You wouldn't think it

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Speaker 3: would be that confounding. It's r ippo, n.

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Speaker 5: I know, but in our English of today, we don't

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Speaker 5: go hard on with that.

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Speaker 2: That are we go in Yeah, that's true and any

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Speaker 2: other thing. Thank you for the.

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Speaker 3: Donuts, the gluten free donuts specifically, even though I'm not gluten.

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Speaker 2: For I really enjoyed it, but you went to it

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Speaker 2: immediately because I wanted to be higher.

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Speaker 3: I was like, that's better than a real donut, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, I better take the gluten free one.

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Speaker 2: You can listen to Adam's podcast.

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Speaker 3: It's called The run Through, and he gave us a

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Speaker 3: real nice slice of that's in today's episode. I am

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Speaker 3: definitely going to be listening to it. And thank you

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00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: for coming. I'm my friends were very excited that I

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Speaker 3: was having you on my podcast, and now I understand why.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so glad I'm more familiar with you.

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00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 5: I'm so glad to be You're so cute familiar with you.

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00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 5: You're also so cute. I'll also say that thank you.

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Speaker 5: I also have another podcast. Called intrusive thoughts of course,

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00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 5: if you don't want to listen to anything that's not

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00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 5: solely figure skating related. Because I don't talk about getting

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Speaker 5: your head smashed in at Spago all the time.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's.

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Speaker 3: How can although that could be a recurring theme for

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Speaker 3: a podcast, it's judging by what's going on at Spago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so in truth of thoughts you talk more about

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Speaker 2: like there is kind of like everything. Yeah thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I did enjoy your sun flowers have too many muscles,

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Speaker 1: and that's I don't like that.

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Speaker 2: Don't they look strong? Totally?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I just I did a feel to win. Dancing with

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Speaker 2: the Stars.

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Speaker 5: Felt good, Chelsea, real good, real fucking good.

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Speaker 2: How did you celebrate something like that?

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Speaker 5: Well, it was like a whirlwind because it was like

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Speaker 5: right after the Olympics. So I celebrated at first by

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Speaker 5: losing like ten pounds, which I didn't even know I

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Speaker 5: could like lose still after like the Olympics, and so

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Speaker 5: it was at an all time low weight wise, all

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01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 5: time high win wise.

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Speaker 2: But that seems like a win win. It was a win.

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Speaker 3: I mean, as a gay man, aren't you just excited

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Speaker 3: to be losing weight?

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Speaker 2: I think as a gay man.

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Speaker 5: You're always excited to be focused on your weight whatever

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01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 5: it is, high, low, dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what did you do to celebrate? You didn't

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Speaker 2: answer that question. I don't think I did an anything.

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Speaker 3: No, really, you win Dancing with the Stars and you

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Speaker 3: don't go out and like have a night or I.

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Speaker 2: Mean maybe I did that. I don't have a cupcake,

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Speaker 2: a donut. I think I a sidecar, don't gluten free. Maybe,

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Speaker 2: I mean, if that's what it has to come down,

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Speaker 2: I think so. I mean it was like I was

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Speaker 2: so tired at that point, like it was.

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Speaker 5: It was right after the Olympics too, and so I

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Speaker 5: think I just took a good old nat and I

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Speaker 5: was literally like inch thick of like spray tan too.

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Speaker 5: Oh it's amazing. I go to sleep, you wake up,

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01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 5: you look down shroud of Turin. It's like just it

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01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 5: was a biblical experience of being bat tan.

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01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: I would have really looked like Steve Harvey. Wow, what

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01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: sounds like you really have a thing for Steve Harvey today.

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01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 5: I do because I'm looking and I'm like, I should

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Speaker 5: host family feud.

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Speaker 2: When I see myself, maybe will.

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Speaker 3: Host family feud. Let's put that on your vision board. Okay, Okay,

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01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 3: we're done for the day. Thank you for having us Chelsea,

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01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 3: Catherine Adam Rapon. Okay, my remaining dates for Vegas. There

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Speaker 3: are remaining dates for this year. Summertime is coming and

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Speaker 3: I will be in Vegas at the Cosmo doing my

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01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: residency on August thirtieth, and then November one and twenty ninth.

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01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: November first and November twenty ninth, I will be in

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas at the Cosmo performing inside Myself at the Chelsea.

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01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 2: It's called Chelsea at the Chelsea for a reason. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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