1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: It's our one on this Wednesday, Dan and the dan 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: 's Dan Patrick Show. Congratulations the Florida Panthers, the state 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: of Florida, the epicenter of hockey. As the Panthers beat 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: the others five to one. Steve Levy's covered the last 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: thirty Stanley Cup Final. He will join us coming up 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: here in a little bit. No basketball tonight, but already 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: got the betting line for tomorrow night. In Indianapolis, it's 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: the thunder by six and a half trying to close 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: out the Indiana Pacers for the franchise's first NBA title, 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: okac's first NBA title. I'm not going to give them 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: Seattle's title in OKC by proxy, all right? Eight seven 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: to seven to three. DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: com Twitter handle. A TP show stat of the day 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: brought to you by Pandia America, the official trading cards 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: of this program. Good morning. 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It's the backroom guy, the MV hebrg Yes, Paul. 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 4: Maybe some people are tired of all. 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: He's out tire rack dot com the way tire buying 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: should be pole question, Play of the day, stat of 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: the day, all of that forthcoming eight seven to seven, 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: three DP show operator Tyler's sitting by to take your 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: phone calls. All right. Panthers dominated the oilers, and it 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: felt like it was a little closer than what it 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: was because you had a couple of overtime games. It 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: started out like this could be great, this will be epic. 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: You're going to get the best player in this sport, 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: maybe the second or third best player in the sport 42 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: going against the Panthers, a great team, and it never materialized. 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: And now we get back to back Cups and of 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: course now we have to talk about what is a dynasty, 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: which we'll talk about here in a moment, and it 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: might vary from sport to sport. What is a dynasty? 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: If you're the Patriots, in your dynasty, it was kind 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: of spread out, but it was dynastic. And then you 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: look at the Golden State Warriors a little bit spread out. 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: It used to be your dynasty was you win three 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: in a row, four in a row. Go back to 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: the Celtics in the sixties. They were winning every single year. 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: But the dynasty, I think the maybe the sport has 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: different definition definitions, So we'll explore that coming up. All right, 55 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: poll question for the first down of the program is 56 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: going to be what Stephen. 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 5: Well, I think we could kick around the dynasty topic 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 5: a little bit. Okay, I would probably define a dynasty as, say, 59 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 5: three titles in somewhere between five to ten years. It 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: doesn't have to be three in a row, all right, 61 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: but if you're able to get three within that stretch, 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 5: I can't be longer than ten years. I think that 63 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 5: that would qualify you as sustained period of excellence. 64 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think this team was ever mentioned as 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: having a dynasty. This team won three titles in five years. 66 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: The San Francisco Giants every other year won titles. That's 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: a dynasty, is it? Or is it just a run? 68 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, a good run or is it dynasty? 69 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: But then if you don't make the playoffs, I don't 70 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: think they made the playoffs in the other years. Can 71 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: you be a dynasty if you win, don't make the playoffs, win, 72 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: don't make the playoffs win, Yes, pulling. 73 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: That's exactly right, that's the team. I was going to 74 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: bring up twenty ten World Series, miss A playoffs, twelve 75 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: World Series, miss A playoffs, fourteen Worlds. That feels dynasty 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: ish though ish three or five? Like Seaton said, that's ish. 77 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: How that's feel super dynasty. But I don't think anybody 78 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: gave them credit as having The Giants got a dynasty. 79 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: It was they're really good in even number of years, 80 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: and then they didn't make the playoffs. I think you 81 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: got to make the playoffs. I think you got to 82 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: make the playoffs the years that you don't, I don't 83 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: know we're groaning. 84 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 6: We're groaning. 85 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: Okay. I'm I'm a purest and you know I'm old school. 86 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: I'm a snob when it comes to my dynasties here, Yes, Marvin. 87 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: And I think those Giants teams had three different lineups. 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: It wasn't like the same group of guys won those 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: World Series t same manager though, hall of famer yeah, 90 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: Chris Boch yes, uh. And they had Buster Posey right 91 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: and Madison Bumgardner. Other than that, Tim Litz. Tim was 92 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: he there. 93 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: For all of those? I got to check all very good? 94 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think so. Yes, Tom. 95 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 7: To me, the word dynasty has got to have a 96 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 7: very high bar to it, besides just you know, making 97 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 7: the playoffs. And I think you've got to win three 98 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 7: in a row, and you got to get there three 99 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 7: in five years. I wouldn't go much past five years. 100 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 7: I think you've got to win three and four. I'll 101 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 7: wink at the winning three and five years to use 102 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 7: the word dynasty. 103 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: San Francisco Giants, did they have a dynasty in your opinion. 104 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 7: I'm gonna say it doesn't feel dynasty. 105 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: You just said three and because it's baseball, Wait, just 106 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: you just said three and five years. 107 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 7: I reluctantly for the Giants. 108 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, so it's one of those things he 109 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: got even mind. Yeah, this is this is why I like, 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: we've been talking about this whole morning long. 111 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 6: I understand. 112 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 7: But it's also like the Hall of Fame when you 113 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 7: hear it. But sometimes that's part of it too. 114 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 2: You just spend three in five years. 115 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 7: Right, But that's not a strict definition for me. This 116 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 7: is what I'm thinking. It should be something in the 117 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 7: neighborhood of winning three out of four years. But sometimes 118 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 7: the last piece of the puzzle is does that ring? 119 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 7: Does that ring true to you when you hear that 120 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 7: team or that. 121 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: Just contradicted yourself a little bit? Yeah know a lot, 122 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: Yes it fit. 123 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: I don't know anything about hockey, but if you just 124 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 5: look back sort of over the last say ten years, 125 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 5: it looks like on paper and if you're a hockey fan, 126 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 5: don't hold me to this, Okay, I understand I might 127 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 5: be wrong. It feels like they've slowly been building over 128 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 5: the last say like ten years, from a team that 129 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 5: sort of struggled into something great into a powerhouse that 130 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 5: they are now. Those feel all like dynasty building type moves. 131 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Tampa Bay Lightning did they have a dynasty? The 132 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Lightning did they have a dynasty? Because if 133 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: if Florida has one, then Tampa Bay had one. I 134 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: think the state of Florida has a dynasty going on 135 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: when it comes to hockey. But yeah, once again, it's 136 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: tricky with the definition of that, and we do get 137 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: caught up on is that a dynasty or not a dynasty? 138 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: You know, you'll know it if I if I hear it, 139 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: then I'm going to react to it. Yes or no, 140 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: it's a dynasty. Okay, I think dynasties come in all 141 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: shapes and sizes. 142 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin for Fritzi, would you consider the eighty Celtics 143 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: a dynasty? They won titles in eighty one, eighty four, 144 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: and eighty six. I think I would, well, wait a minute, 145 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: what's the difference. 146 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 7: And for some reason San Francisco giants to me just 147 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 7: to hear it both the Celtics. Yes, it's a total 148 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 7: bias of the East called whatever you want to call it. 149 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: But like giants nasts because it's not the eighties when 150 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: you would know everybody's name and the start. 151 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 7: If you want to talk about you know, Sidney Wicks 152 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 7: and Jojo White and have the chick and Cowans and everything. 153 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: I'm all in, okay, Yeah, yes, the Celtics can't be 154 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 4: because they shared titles during that run and that would 155 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: get rid of it. The Lightning won two Stanley Cups 156 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: in a row. They could have won three, which would 157 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: have cemented them as dynasty. They lost it. Here's a 158 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: couple of dynasties. The New England Patriots, starting at one, 159 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 4: they won three out of four Super Bowls, which enters 160 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: you into dynasty category. They went nine years without winning 161 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: a Super Bowl, but they were always in the AFC 162 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: title gum almost always in it. Then they won three 163 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: in five years, so they had both two dynasties and 164 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: a run in between it. How about this one, this 165 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 4: is pure dynasty. Golden State Warriors. They starting in twenty fourteen, 166 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 4: they were in five straight NBA finals and won three 167 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: of them. That means a sport ran through them for 168 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 4: five years. 169 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: It's fair to say, Okay, was Lebron James a dynasty? 170 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: No? 171 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: No, he went to the NBA finals? How many years? 172 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: With nine and ten years? Something crazy? You went eighth 173 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: street eight straight NBA finals, Like that's an individual dynasty, 174 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: isn't it no matter where he went? His team went 175 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: to the NBA finals. So I don't like, can you 176 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: have a singular dynasty, you know, not in a sport 177 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: like uh, you know, tennis or golf. But I'm talking 178 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: about Lebron doing that eight consecutive years. Yes, Tom, you. 179 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 7: Could be an all time great. I don't think you 180 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 7: could be a person dynasty. I think dynasty to me 181 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 7: is a group or a team make a dynasty. You 182 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 7: could have a dynastic career, but you can't be a dynasty. 183 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 7: To me, that doesn't seem like. 184 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't even know what it means to 185 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: you anymore since you screwed up the San Francisco Giants. Okay, 186 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: but I don't think you can call. 187 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 7: A person a dynasty like a great fighter who went 188 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 7: forty two and oh with thirty three knocks. Dynasty just 189 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 7: sounds strange language wise to call an individual a dynasty. 190 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: Was Tiger Woods a dynasty? 191 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 7: He's an all time great. I wouldn't call any person 192 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 7: a dynasty. I don't care how amazing. 193 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: Okay, but we're talking about sustained winning and the common 194 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: ground or you know, common denominator was Lebron James and 195 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: all of that. Yes, point, I. 196 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 4: Agree with you on this one. I think you've kind 197 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 4: of stumbled upon an individual dynasty and it's a new 198 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 4: thing because the sport ran through Lebron James for a 199 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: decade wherever he was, that's where the final was Tiger 200 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 4: Woods for ten to twelve years. The sport ran through him, 201 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: and so it is a different type of dyasye. 202 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 5: But you're right, I need to say the same thing 203 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 5: about the Patriots. We could split it into two if 204 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 5: you just want to do you know, wins, but they dynasties. 205 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 5: They you know, even when they were down, they still 206 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 5: that first dynasty air quotes is five super Bowl appearances 207 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: in ten years. 208 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: I have no problem calling them a dynasty. Maybe they've 209 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: been a dynasty at two separate times book ended, Yeah, 210 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. It's that run of 211 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: whatever that was ten years where they didn't win a 212 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: super Bowl, but they still were in the conversation for 213 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: a super Bowl, like getting to the Stanley Cup final, 214 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: or getting to the NBA Finals, or getting to the 215 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, Like can you include that in a dynasty 216 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: that if you don't win, but you still get to 217 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: the championship. Does that factor in? Does it factor in 218 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: what you do in the years that you don't win 219 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: the championship? Should it factor in that the Giants didn't 220 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: even make the playoffs? I think it should. Yeah, Marvin, what. 221 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: About the eighties forty nine ers? So they won a 222 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: title in eighty one, then their last title was. 223 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: In eighty nine. I don't think it's a dynasty. 224 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: You don't think so four titles in what nine years? 225 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: It feels pretty dynasty issue. But then you also had 226 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: other really good teams back then. You had the Giants, 227 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: but that's that's what boys, but they were also kind 228 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: of on the cusp of you know, dynastic as well. 229 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: But I think that's what makes their run even better 230 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: because you got to look at those teams that they 231 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: had to fight against to win those four Super Bowls. 232 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 3: Eighty six Giants, eighty seven Redskins, the Vikings were really 233 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: good during that time. 234 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 7: The Bears, oh be sorry about that. 235 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: I heard of them almost like the eighties Lakers, where 236 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: the Bears the eighty five Bears a dynasty, A onesie, 237 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: A onesie maybe the greatest one off of all time. 238 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 2: We're going to dine out on this for decades. Yes, Seaton, the. 239 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 5: NFL might be the toughest sport to have a dynasty, okay, 240 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 5: because you have I know, all sports focus on parody, 241 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 5: but they seem NFL seems to take it most serious. 242 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: Salary cap Do you have short careers in. 243 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 5: The NFL, which I think impacts a dynasty because if 244 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 5: you have a lot of turnover, one of the things 245 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: about a dynasty to me is a consistent group of players. Maybe, 246 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 5: but in the NFL you have so much turnover it's 247 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 5: tough to say year to year this is the same team. 248 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: Maybe we should have started with the Webster Dictionary definition 249 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,119 Speaker 2: of dynasty. 250 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: Yes, conveniently, I have that up on my screen. A 251 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 4: series of rulers or leaders who are all from the 252 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: same family, or a period when a country is ruled 253 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: by a. 254 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: Series of rulers or leaders. Okay, so it comes from 255 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: you know. 256 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: That kind of thing we've co opted in sports, like 257 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: Mount Rushmore used to be a place you'd visit in 258 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: South Dakota. Now it's sports radio fodder. 259 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 5: Yes, hey, you know the flip side of that too. 260 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 5: I would say probably the easiest sport to have a 261 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 5: dynasty would be college football. Yes, you get the right 262 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 5: coach and a good run of players, you could win. 263 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: You could rattle off three out of four, you know, 264 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 5: five whatever. 265 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: And it used to be that those players were locked 266 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: in for at least three years, if not four years, 267 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: you know, when there was no transfer portal. Now it's 268 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: a little bit tougher now to you know, you're reloading 269 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: every single year. Yes, Tom, is there a name. 270 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 7: Or should there be a name for the anti dynasty? 271 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 7: Like the Bills losing four straight Super Bowls? The Broncos 272 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 7: losing three out of four? You got so far and 273 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 7: you accomplished so much in a short window, but you 274 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 7: just didn't win the championship. Should there be a term 275 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 7: for that? 276 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: Or you're just a loser? You got all the way 277 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: to the end only. 278 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 7: To not to make it all the way? 279 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: What do you think? 280 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 6: I think we probably. 281 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: Don't need a word or a term. Do you have 282 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: a word? You don't, But I'd like. 283 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 7: To think of what, Well, there are a lot of 284 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 7: teams that come close over a short period of time, 285 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 7: and they just come up to. 286 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: Maybe come up with the name, and then, you know, 287 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: then we could kind of complete the whole thought there. 288 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I kind of went to horse before the cart thing. 289 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: Yes, what did you send me here? Definition of a dynasty? 290 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was looking at dynasty to see you know 291 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 7: you were talking about you can call an athlete a dynasty, 292 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 7: but to me that sounds odd and just AI take 293 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 7: it for what it's worth, defines it as an athlete 294 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 7: can be considered a dynasty. In sports, a dynasty typically 295 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 7: refers to a team or individual, as you said, that 296 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 7: dominates their sport for an extended period, achieving sustained success 297 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 7: and multiple championships. 298 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: So we're good. No, no, we're good. So you may 299 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: have something there, Thank you, Tom. Steve Levey's going to 300 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: join us, join us from Sunrise, Florida. What about a dynasty? 301 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: Thirty years covering hockey? Is that a dynasty? 302 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 5: Maybe? 303 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll give him a dynasty. 304 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: It feels like your four cents. 305 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 7: It's a broadcasting dynasty. 306 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: Thirty years in a row covering the Stanley Cup final. 307 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: He believes a dynasty. 308 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 7: That's the only individual I would give that to. 309 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: Is Chrismerman a dynasty, Bob Constace a dynasty? 310 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 7: And Dan Patrick. 311 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: No, I didn't include myself. You're just trying to suck. 312 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: Up to me. I'm considered I gong he's coming any time. 313 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: I almost gonged you for your Giants, almost, but I'm 314 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: trying not to go to the world too often. 315 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 5: Yes, those those teams Todd was just referring to called bridesmaids. 316 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, run like that, yeah, yes, point or chynasty 317 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: because they're crying. 318 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to give you a bloop on that one. Right, No, 319 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm not going to That doesn't help I retract it, 320 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: all right, let me take a break. Steve Levy a 321 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: walking dynasty, talking dynasty. We'll join us. Coming up next, 322 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. 323 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 324 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 325 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 326 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: listen live. 327 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: Got a lot of phone calls lined up. People want 328 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: to talk about dynasties. What is your definition? Marvin just 329 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: brought up something during the commercial break that I hadn't 330 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: thought of. And when the Giants won three in five 331 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: years San Francisco Giants, had Barry Bonds been on that team, 332 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: we might have looked at them as a dynasty, or 333 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: we wouldn't have any doubt about them being a dynasty. 334 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: But because he wasn't. You're kind of like, well, man, 335 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: they kind of pieced together a lineup all three times 336 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: they won the World Series. The common denominator was your 337 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: manager for the most part. But if Bonds was on there, 338 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: then we would be like all those Bonds led Giants 339 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: teams that won three World Series titles. 340 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, yeah, star power. Like Seaton said, football usually 341 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: get broken up. But those Steeler teams four titles in 342 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 4: six years in the seventies, it felt like the starting 343 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: lineup didn't change very much if at all the stars 344 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 4: Joe Green and Mel Blunton, you can go on and on. 345 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you had the same quarterback, you had same coach, 346 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: backfield as well your wide receivers. With the Steelers, just 347 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: about everybody on that team felt like became a Hall 348 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: of Famer. 349 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 6: Man. 350 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: We love winners. 351 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 6: You know. 352 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: You go back to those Buffalo Bill teams or the 353 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: Vikings that lost four Super Bowls, and you're like, I 354 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: don't think so. Like they got to it's amazing you 355 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl. Only one team wins, but 356 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: you got to the Super Bowl and the Bills went 357 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: four consecutive years. Those kinds are Hall of famers. Granted 358 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: they didn't win, but I have to factor that in. 359 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: I have to factor that in. You got to these titles. 360 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: Steve Levy, he works for the Mothership. He's been there 361 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: covering the Stanley Cup Final for over thirty years. He 362 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: is a dynasty. He's done it for thirty According to Fritzy, 363 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: Steve Levy is a dynasty. You have covered the Stanley 364 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: Cup Final every year since nineteen ninety four. Congratulations, Steve DP. 365 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 6: Thank you. It's quite honored. 366 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 8: I appreciate. 367 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: Okay, the Panthers already a dynasty, you know, I. 368 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 9: Mean the definition is crazy. Just winning two in a 369 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 9: row is not dynasty level for me. Dan, I know, 370 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 9: it's three consecutive trips. I think you have to get 371 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 9: to four. In hockey, I think the Islanders, I think 372 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 9: the Oilers of the eighties, the Canadians. 373 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 6: I really think like four is. 374 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 9: A magic for the dynasty. And now that was not 375 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 9: salary cap era, so I get that. But it is remarkable. 376 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 9: And they're doing it in South Florida two, which is 377 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 9: something even more special. 378 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 6: But I wonder I got even more. 379 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: I wonder about that with the state of Florida, with 380 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and Florida, the trickle down effect on the 381 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: youth programs there. It's one thing to be hey, weren't anomaly. 382 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: We're a great hockey team in the sun you know, 383 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: in the Sunshine State, you know, Tampa Bay. But is 384 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: this how much of an effect is this having on 385 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: younger players playing this sport the way they do in Canada. 386 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely it's a factor. 387 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 9: They're they're building rinks left and right, and the fan 388 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 9: bases are have really become tremendous. You know, it's not 389 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 9: that long ago the Panthers dead and they were tarping 390 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 9: the top of the arena and now it's that's one 391 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 9: of the bigger rinks I think in the NHL, probably 392 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 9: close to twenty thousand. And that place is full and 393 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 9: they're in it. And you know where the Panthers plays 394 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 9: not exactly a metropolitan area out in Sunrise. There's not 395 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 9: a lot going on out there, but the organization is. 396 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 6: Very well run. 397 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 9: Dan They've built they built a practice facility in the 398 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 9: Los Solas area, which is a hot spot. Now I 399 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 9: know the guys who will live in the area and 400 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 9: they take golf carts to practice. I mean, there are 401 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 9: a lot of attractive reasons to want to be a 402 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 9: Florida Panther and attract free agents. The tax issue is 403 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 9: certainly a benefit, but I think that's going to help 404 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 9: keep some guys around too. They win, they treat the 405 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 9: players right, really first class ownership. 406 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 6: In both Tampa and for the Florida. 407 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 2: Pantas, it felt like we were going to get a 408 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: tight seven game series, It was gonna be dramatic, and 409 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, something changed and you saw 410 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 2: total domination. What was that one change? 411 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 6: Dan? 412 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 9: This was the sweepiest, if you will, the sweepiest six 413 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 9: game series in history, you know, like I mean, this 414 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 9: should have been a four game sweep, and watching each 415 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 9: individual game, it felt like a total sweep. And it's 416 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 9: really easy to criticize Edmonton, but you can't lose sight 417 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 9: of just how great Florida was. They made the Panthers 418 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 9: made Connor McDavid and Leon dry Side of look pedestrian. 419 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 9: They looked like two players who were individually great. But 420 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 9: if you removed them, and I was telling this to people, 421 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 9: if you took McDavid and Drysidle the way the remaining 422 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 9: ten forwards for the Oilers, I'm not sure I would 423 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 9: have taken one of them, over any of the Florida 424 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 9: BAMF forwards. I mean the team, the Florida Panthers team 425 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 9: was dominant. The Oilers still probably have the two best 426 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 9: players on the ice, but the Panthers as a team 427 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 9: and certainly in goal, that was a big difficence. The 428 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 9: other thing that jumps out Dan is the dominance in 429 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 9: the first period, and I can't explain it. The last 430 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 9: four games of the period of the series, Florida outscored 431 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 9: Edmondson nine to nothing. 432 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 6: The Oilers gave up at least two goals and they 433 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 6: couldn't get out of the first period scoreless or even 434 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 6: tied at one. It was bizarre. 435 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 9: And the amazing one was the three upping game that 436 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 9: Edmondon actually came back and won that they had no 437 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 9: business and that's a miracle comeback. That's all time, that's 438 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 9: going back to nineteen nineteen. And really that gets forgotten now. 439 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 6: Because the Oilers lost that series. 440 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: Okay, if you were running the Edmonton Oilers, you got 441 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: a big decision with Connor McDavid. Maybe he has a 442 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: big decision. I think he's got one year left. He's 443 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: what twenty eight years of age. Widely recognized as the 444 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: greatest player in hockey, most talented we've maybe ever seen, 445 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: and he doesn't have anything to show for it. Is 446 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: it going to be him wanting to leave or the 447 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: Oilers wanting to regroup and try to make this a 448 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 2: full team. 449 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 6: No, they would never let him leave. 450 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 9: I mean, the franchise is on the map really right 451 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 9: now because of Connor McDavid. 452 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 6: I couldn't even imagine that franchise. 453 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 9: If he left, that will be his decision, and then 454 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 9: you play that game, right if the Oilers. 455 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: Games they did this in the eighties, They did this 456 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 2: once before with it. 457 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 9: But they had a lot more depth. I mean, obviously 458 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 9: it was Gretzky, but they had a lot more depth. 459 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 9: They got probably seven or eight Hall of Famers from 460 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 9: that team. And right now it's you know, it's Tri Suntle, 461 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 9: you know, and and Connorm. 462 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: But is he gonna want to go Steve? They they're 463 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: gonna want to keep him. Yeah, But does he say 464 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: I've gone as far as I can go? 465 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 6: I mean that's the question. 466 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 9: He's changed the agents recently, Dan, I don't know what 467 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 9: that means, but that's probably a factor in all of this. 468 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 9: I think he's a loyal guy. He's made Edmondson his home. 469 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 9: I think he loves it there with his family. You know, 470 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 9: I don't know that, and we're gonna find out soon. 471 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 9: Like we could have this answer in two weeks. And 472 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 9: that's the issue. If the Oilers feel like, hey, we're 473 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 9: not gonna be able to sign this guy no matter 474 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 9: how many how much money we throw at him. They 475 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 9: can't let him walk to free agency. You can't get 476 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 9: nothing in return for the guy. So that's the But 477 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 9: they've got a lot of holes, Dan, they don't have 478 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 9: enough dogs in the fight. They need a real number 479 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 9: one goaltender. I mean that was one of the areas 480 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 9: Florida out classed him in. 481 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 6: And listen, I. 482 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 9: Didn't think Edmondon was gonna win any of the four rounds, 483 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 9: and really any of the first three I had. I 484 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 9: had him losing all three first round of their first rounds, 485 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 9: and then I finally went over and picked him in 486 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 9: the the final in seven. I looked like a total ladiot. 487 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: As usual grade this season for the NHL. 488 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 9: Off the charts great and I don't care about the 489 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 9: television ratings. 490 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 6: The finals wasn't our year at the final that's how 491 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 6: this works. But off the charts. 492 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 9: Four nations out of control, great, Alex Ovechkin unbelievable. 493 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 6: Even the trade deadline was great. Miko Ranton in a. 494 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 9: Real superstar gets moved twice during the regular season that 495 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 9: never happens. 496 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 6: And really the playoffs were terrific. And we're gonna have 497 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 6: an off season. 498 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 9: You know, it's never gonna be the NFL off season, 499 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 9: but the NHL off season with major names out there, 500 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 9: Mitch Martor in Toronto and a ton of movement and 501 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 9: coaches going in and out. Uh, it's the NHL has 502 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 9: really evolved and elevated itself, I think, and it's fascinating 503 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 9: to watch what's. 504 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 6: Going on now. 505 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: Your first year covering the Stanley Cup Final, the Rangers 506 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: win the Cup? 507 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 6: Correct? 508 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: Were you at the after party that I was at 509 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: when the cup was there? And I don't ask, Oh, okay, 510 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: you don't remember that. I don't remember. I don't remember 511 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 2: seeing you. I did ask MESSI. I said what's in 512 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: the cup? And he gave me some choice words like, 513 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: you don't ask what's what liquid is in the cup? 514 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: You just drink from the cup? 515 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 9: You did, and I drank from it too, buddy, I 516 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 9: dragged from it that night somebody's got a picture, I 517 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 9: can't seem to find it. I drank from it in 518 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 9: the dressing room, which is highly unprofessional, also being the 519 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 9: journalists that we are. But it was a special all 520 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 9: time night, and you know I grew up a lifelong 521 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 9: Ranger fan. I never got to see them actually skate 522 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 9: the cup around the garden because back in those days, 523 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 9: as a rights holder, you had to be positioned in 524 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 9: the dressing room five minutes left on a clock. So 525 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 9: all those years I never got to see skin. But 526 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 9: I did drink out of the cup that night. I 527 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 9: guess I would ask, do you remember seeing anybody that 528 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 9: night at the party? 529 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: Or you and me? 530 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 6: You and mess chilling? 531 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: Ye, the hardest party winning team ever was who. 532 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 9: Capitals gave it a run within Oh boy, I'm not 533 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 9: sure anyone enjoyed that stilly cup more than Alex Ovechkin. 534 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 6: Washington had a really good time and listen to cup 535 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 6: right now for everything. 536 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 9: I can tell this inside the elbow room or outside 537 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 9: the elbow room. Headed to the Atlantic Ocean as we speak, 538 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 9: so they'll have a good time in South Florida too. 539 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: It's headed to the Atlantic Ocean. 540 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 6: Well, it's in the elbow room right now, which is 541 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 6: right on the ocean there. 542 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Oh boy man overboard ruh, Save travels leaves 543 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: great to talk to you about him. 544 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 6: Always a pleasure bound. 545 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: That's Steve Levy. He's a dynasty thirty thirty years. He's 546 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: been covering the Stanley Cup final. I don't remember seeing 547 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: him at the bar after the Rangers won the Cup. 548 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: I'm guessing he would be there. Levy's all bar. I mean, 549 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer. He's a Hall of Famer. Okay, 550 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls in here. How about Shane 551 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: and Portland leads this off? Good morning Shane, what's on 552 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: your mind? 553 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 10: Hey, good morning guys, First time, long time five six 554 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 10: a robust. I wanted to say, you guys mentioned the 555 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 10: Steelers of the seventies, but what about the Steelers from 556 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 10: one to twenty ten? You got five a see championships, 557 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 10: two Super Bowl wins, another Super Bowl loss to the 558 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 10: Packers in twenty ten. For the most part, the same 559 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 10: corps went through a different coaching staff. But for the 560 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 10: most part, Dick Lebau was there, and you know, I 561 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 10: think that was definitely on the verge of being a dynasty, 562 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 10: if not an actual dynasty. 563 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 564 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: Once again, it's the definition. And also it seems to 565 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: go from sport to sport of what is a dynasty 566 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: three and five years, three and six years? What if 567 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: you did four in ten years? I want sustain greatness. 568 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: I think you have to be a contender in the 569 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: years that you don't win. You know, the Giants didn't 570 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: make the playoffs in the other years that they didn't 571 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: win the World Series. That takes away a little bit 572 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: of the dynasty part of that. But thanks for the 573 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: phone call. Shane John in Illinois. Hi, John, what's on 574 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: your mind? 575 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 6: Hey? 576 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 8: Dan, thanks for the call. 577 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm five ten. 578 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 8: I wanted to talk about the dynasty as well. 579 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 6: I would say the Blackhawks would. 580 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 8: Be the latest NHL dynasty. They were in and out 581 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 8: and they were they went pretty deep when the years 582 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 8: they didn't win the Stanley Cup. 583 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 11: And when it comes to like baseball, I would. 584 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: Say the Yankees of the late nineties and. 585 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 8: Like you guys were talking about earlier with college I 586 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 8: would say Alabama and maybe even Clemson was definitely a dynasty. 587 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, certainly the Yankees when they were winning 588 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: with the Core four. Absolutely, Uh, Dustin in Alabama high dustin. 589 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: What's on your mind morning, guys, more than. 590 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 6: Headed in. 591 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, dynasties easily, hands down. Nick Saban seven National champions Ship, 592 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 11: six of Alabama. 593 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 8: Uh you look up his stats. 594 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 11: It's they're just insane to think about, like eleven SEC 595 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 11: championships and on and on and on. 596 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: World Todd All right, thank you, Yeah, I was waiting 597 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: for it. I was waiting for it. The punctuation. I 598 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: wish we all had a. 599 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 5: Like, okay, conversation over move like role tide is yeah, yeah, 600 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: like are you just talking? And then like okay, another 601 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 5: more to say roll tide. Everybody goes there're separate ways. 602 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 5: That's Michael in Chicago. Hi, Michael, how you doing good. 603 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 6: I got three dynasties for you. 604 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 8: The Yankees of the twenties. 605 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 6: Don't you think they were dynasty? 606 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I mean we're looking at modern day 607 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: we're modern day dynasties because it's not like the Yankees 608 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: in the twenties or the Celtics in the sixties UCLA basketball. 609 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 2: You know, times have changed, so we're looking at what 610 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 2: is a dynasty now as opposed to we know that 611 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: those are dynasties. And thanks for the phone call. Yes, 612 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: the Yankees were dominated, the Celtics dominated, UCLA basketball dominated, 613 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: But we're talking about the modern era of sports. 614 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 5: Yes, I think sort of back to the forty nine 615 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 5: ers quickly, you could take say fifteen year period and 616 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 5: include it all as the same dynasty. I think if 617 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: you're connecting Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Steve Young, they're all 618 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 5: sort of in that one big era. 619 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 6: You have. 620 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 5: Five super Bowls in fifteen fourteen, fifteen years, that feels 621 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 5: like a pretty solid dynasty. Yeah, that's a long run 622 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 5: of being very good. 623 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: It's a hybrid dynasty, like some of it's a dynasty 624 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: and then part of it is just sort of attack. 625 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: You know, you build an addition to your house, the 626 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: house itself, that's the dynasty, and then you have a 627 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: guest house for your parents. Yeah poem. 628 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 10: Yeah. 629 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 4: Alabama, going back to that caller, six titles in eleven years. 630 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: Every single season in that eleven year span, at some 631 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 4: point they were the number one team in the country. 632 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 4: And what defines them as a dynasty is it was 633 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: more surprising than when they were out of the National 634 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: Title Game than when they were in it. 635 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: Roll tide. Yeah, we'll take a break quite of the day. 636 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: Up next, be sure to catch the live edition of 637 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six 638 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. 639 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 4: Wapp Oh my God. 640 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: The play of the day. 641 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 10: Who was liken it? 642 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: Play? 643 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 10: This is the play on the day. 644 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 6: Check this out? 645 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: Who shark tries to cut in? Gave it away at 646 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: the Panthers line, the ostrain it back you the way up. 647 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 9: The right side at to the osterena, to the circle, 648 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 9: and the ostenda hands it back Hi slot. 649 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: K chuck, Suddy's gone. 650 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 9: Matthew get shuck, let it rip from the high slot 651 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 9: and the Panthers halitoon. 652 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: Nothing laid. That's courtesy of the Panthers Radio network. Matthew 653 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: could chuck. He was all banged up after the Four Nations. 654 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: He didn't play, and then all of a sudden he 655 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: comes back. He's a hockey player. He scored. Panthers win. 656 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: They're second straight Cups. So they joined back to backers 657 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: the Penguins in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Tampa Bay twenty twenty, 658 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: twenty two, twenty one, and now the Florida Panthers. I 659 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: was doing highlights when Keith Kuchuk was playing Play of 660 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: the Day, brought to you by Express Employment Professionals. Express 661 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: helps people of all kinds in all industries. Fine work, 662 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: sweet spot is logistics roles and Express never charges you 663 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: a fee to find a job. Go to expresspros dot com. 664 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: Matt in Colorado, Hey Matt, how's it going? Hey? 665 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 8: Five ten? 666 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 6: First time? 667 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 8: Long time? I like to shout out Babo and Hunter. 668 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 8: And how about the double a DC Almost a dynasty Club? 669 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 8: Not quite there? 670 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: Okay? Do you do you have any have any suggestions, 671 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 2: any nominees? That's that's no, But thank you, thank you 672 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: for giving us the title there very fritzy like that. 673 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: He gave us the almost a dynasty Club. So the 674 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: Hall of Very Good almost a dynasty almusty almosty Ben? 675 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: And Milwaukee, Hi Ben, what's on your mind? 676 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 8: Hey? Good morning, Danette, five ten, one eighty eight and 677 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 8: this morning down thirty seven pounds? 678 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: All right, congratulations. 679 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 8: I'm a Chicagoan. So the first dynasty you didn't mention 680 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 8: is the nineteen eighty five pairs. 681 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 2: Of course, yes, the one year dynasty. 682 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 8: Yes. And when you're talking about dynasty and dynastic players, 683 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 8: I think you have to split them split them because 684 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 8: Michael Jordan was a dynastic player and he brought them 685 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 8: a dynasty. The San Francisco forty nine Ers are a 686 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 8: dynastic club, and that they could have Joe Mantana, Steve 687 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 8: Young A brock Purty there. They know what it takes 688 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 8: to win something. The Jets don't know how they're doing 689 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 8: a lot of. 690 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: All right, A little shot there from Ben Milwaukee. Thank you. 691 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: Ben Paulie is branching out into other fields with dynasties. Here, 692 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: what are your suggestions? 693 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 4: So let's say, in other sports, other fields, how about acting? 694 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 4: What would be the acting dynasty? 695 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 2: Is Tom Cruise a dynasty? 696 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 8: Well? 697 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 4: I was thinking, how about Meryl Streep? I looked up 698 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 4: Starting in nineteen seventy nine for The Deer Hunter was 699 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 4: her first nomination, and a year later she won Best 700 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 4: Supporting Actress for a Creamer Versus Screamer. She has been 701 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 4: nominated for an Academy Award. I have her twenty one 702 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 4: nominations in thirty nine years. 703 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: How many times did she win? Three? See, we would 704 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: have a problem with that in other sports. 705 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 4: But three for twenty one from the field in basketball? Bad, acting, good? 706 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: Okay, just throwing it out there. 707 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 4: She's never gone more than four years without being nominated 708 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 4: for an Academy Award. 709 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's it all right. 710 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 4: How about Tom Hanks's. 711 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 2: Run, Tom Hanks, that was the Dynasty. I think so 712 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: pretty good run. Yeah, seton. 713 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 5: It's a little acting and music things art forms like 714 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 5: that are a little college football ish to me in that. Uh, 715 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 5: it really is just comes down to well, people said, 716 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 5: so you are I know, you have to win games 717 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 5: in football, but they do the whole waiting thing and 718 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, but that's not really a good win, 719 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 5: so that doesn't count as a blah blah blah. And 720 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 5: acting is very much it's all subjective. There's no real contest. 721 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: If you started the playoffs and then people just voted, 722 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: and then that's kind of like what you have with 723 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 2: the Academy Awards. There's no real competition against one another. 724 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: It's just people voting, and it's like, oh man, I 725 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: love Meryl. Very subjective, very yeah. It's like you know 726 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: when shows win the Sports Emmy, we politics. Yeah, it's 727 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: all politics. Yeah, are we a dynasty? 728 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 4: Oh for five or oh for six? 729 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: Oh for six? I think we're oh for six. But 730 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 2: We've been nominated six times in what seven years? So 731 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 2: where are we Bridesmaids? Yeah? Probably, it's a good movie. 732 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: Are we the Buffalo Bills accurate? Yeah? Probably so. I 733 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: think the Buffalo Bills had more fun when they were 734 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: losing than we've had, Yes, Todd, But the Bill's. 735 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 7: Only lost to one team. We've lost to like four 736 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 7: or five different shows each year, So I don't know 737 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 7: where you want to put that in the comparison. 738 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 2: The Bills lost super Bowls to other teams. 739 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 7: Right, But any given year you lose to one team, 740 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 7: we lose in a category, So we don't know if 741 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 7: we finished second. 742 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 2: They lost to different teams, they didn't lose to the same. 743 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 7: Said, I'm just started about the comparison between losing a 744 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 7: bunch of times. 745 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 4: If we finished second every year of those six, would 746 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 4: you want to know? 747 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: I would rather know that we finished second than last. 748 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: Would you like me to find out? 749 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 6: Well? 750 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 5: But even still, though, if you finished fifth out of 751 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 5: a gajillion shows, that's top five, I know, but I 752 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 5: want to I want to know if we're right there. 753 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 4: I think that's going to bother you more if you 754 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: finish second. 755 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: To vote, Okay, let's let's go. Let's vote. If we 756 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 2: would like to find out if we finished runner up 757 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 2: at any point in these six years, Todd, I would 758 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 2: like to know, Satan, No, Marvin, I know you so, No, Paul, 759 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 2: can I split the vote at the end. Yeah, I'd 760 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 2: like to know. I'm gonna say that I don't want 761 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: to know. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. I like 762 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: to mine there. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. I know 763 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,959 Speaker 2: that that would know that that would hang with me. Yeah, 764 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: So don't find out, Paul, and it would. 765 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 5: Have just rained down fury upon whoever that other show was. 766 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 5: We would spend the next three years just now. 767 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: No, I can't do just I can't. If we go 768 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: out and we don't win a sports emmy, I will 769 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: hold my head high that we we did something that 770 00:38:54,320 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 2: we we against all odds. I'm here my speech. Have 771 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: you ready today today? To nobody thought we could do this? 772 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 2: When we're in my attic, Todd refuses to go get 773 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: coffee for everybody. 774 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 7: What throughout the garbage? 775 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 2: How can I just let you walk away when you 776 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 2: do a spun, let you leave without a trace. Yeah, 777 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: it's standing here, taking every breath. Yeah, maybe I would 778 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: just do that I would give a speech and just 779 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: you know, uh, read from a song. It's a chance 780 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: you gotta take. You're really the only one who knows 781 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 2: me at all. Take a look at this guy on 782 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: the other side of the glass. It's just an empty space. 783 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 7: So close to singing right now. 784 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 6: I know. 785 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: No, I'm so close to gonging you. We're not going 786 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 2: to win. 787 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 11: Take a look. 788 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: No, but but that's okay. It's okay. It is because 789 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 2: I don't feel like we lost empty. We just didn't win. 790 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: It's a difference what time. 791 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 7: But if Paul found out that over the several years 792 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 7: that we lost, we came in the last or second 793 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 7: to last, we wouldn't get that excited feeling and then 794 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 7: have that big disappointment as. 795 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 2: Opposed to I don't want to know, Todd, Todd, I 796 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: don't want to know. I don't want to know. Either way. 797 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: It's it's if we finished fifth or we finished second. 798 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 2: I don't want to know. We didn't finish first. That's 799 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 2: all that matters. Unlike you, I played to win the game. 800 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 7: But in sports, they're like, okay, we were first runner up, 801 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 7: we lost the title game. 802 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: Nobody is ever first runner up. They don't have T shirts. 803 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 2: They don't make up T shirts to say first runner up. 804 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 2: They should do gold, silver, bronze. Really at the Sports Emmys, Yeah, well, 805 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: what do you get for silver and bronze? Like it 806 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: is your Emmy? You get it over and a bronze Emmy. 807 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 7: What Todd Harry Sithe once said, of all the losers, 808 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 7: you were the best in that group when you finished. 809 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 2: Second one hour. In the books, the dynasty, that is 810 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 2: the Dan Patrickshaw, the dynasty